Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln’s birthday, February 12, 2009, US Constitution, US Congress, Lincoln quotes, Hold Congress accountable, Safeguard liberties, Reverence for the laws, Restore the Constitutional Republic, The WHY initiative

“The greatness of Napoleon, Caesar or Washington is only
moonlight by the sun of Lincoln. His example is universal
and will last thousands of years….He was bigger than his
country—bigger than all the presidents together… and
as a great character he will live as long as the world
lives.”

Leo Tolstoy, 1909

Defend

the

US Constitution

 

Abraham Lincoln spoke about preserving the US Constitution
and the union far better than I ever will. He lived it,
breathed it and made the ultimate sacrifice for it. Those
that wish to embrace Lincoln and be thought of in the same
sentence, must acknowledge that Abraham Lincoln stood for
something larger than himself, and be willing to sacrifice
for the good of all.

We are approaching the 200th anniversary of the birth of this
great man, born on February 12, 1809. A man for the ages.

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the
people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all
the time.”
“I hold, that in contemplation of universal law, and of the
Constitution, the Union of these States is perpetual.”
“I therefore consider that in view of the Constitution and the
laws, the Union is unbroken; and to the extent of my ability I
shall take care, as the Constitution itself expressly enjoins
upon me, that the laws of the Union be faithfully executed in
all the States.”
“Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well wisher
to his posterity, swear by the blood of the Revolution, never
to violate in the least particular, the laws of the country;
and never to tolerate their violation by others.”
“I am exceedingly anxious that this Union, the Constitution, and
the liberties of the people shall be perpetuated in accordance
with the original idea for which that struggle was made, and I
shall be most happy indeed if I shall be an humble instrument in
the hands of the Almighty, and of this, his almost chosen people,
for perpetuating the object of that great struggle.”
“Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress
and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves.
No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or
another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light
us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation.”

 

“I freely acknowledge myself the servant of the people, according
to the bond of service — the United States Constitution; and that,
as such, I am responsible to them.”
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter
and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

Lincoln speaks to us today:

“Let reverence for the laws, be breathed by every American mother,
to the lisping babe, that prattles on her lap — let it be taught
in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in
Primers, spelling books, and in Almanacs; — let it be preached
from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced
in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political
religion of the nation; and let the old and the young, the rich
and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues,
and colors and conditions, sacrifice unceasingly upon its altars.”

 

“It is not merely for to-day, but for all time to come that we
should perpetuate for our children’s children this great and free
government, which we have enjoyed all our lives.”
“I appeal to you again to constantly bear in mind that with you,
and not with politicians, not with Presidents, not with
office-seekers, but with you, is the question, “Shall the Union
and shall the liberties of this country be preserved to the latest
generation?””

 

“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this
continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to
the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that
nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long
endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have
come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place
for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not
consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men,
living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far
above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note,
nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what
they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated
here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus
far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to
the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead
we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the
last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that
these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under
God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of
the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from
the earth.”

Our marching orders, from Lincoln:

“Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That
must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our
liberties.”
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the
courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the
men who pervert the Constitution.”

 

“Neither let us be slandered from our duty by false accusations
against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to
the Government nor of dungeons to ourselves. LET US HAVE FAITH
THAT RIGHT MAKES MIGHT, AND IN THAT FAITH, LET US, TO THE END,
DARE TO DO OUR DUTY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT.”

 

“When the people rise in masses in behalf of the Union and the
liberties of their country, truly may it be said, “The gates of
hell shall not prevail against them.””
Join us in our endeavor to get straight answers from
congressmen and forever hold Congress accountable.

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109 responses to “Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln’s birthday, February 12, 2009, US Constitution, US Congress, Lincoln quotes, Hold Congress accountable, Safeguard liberties, Reverence for the laws, Restore the Constitutional Republic, The WHY initiative

  1. Jacqlyn Smith

    What can we do to help out??? I am ready!!

  2. Hello CW and all,

    On the last post I commented that I thought we should all call Sean Hannity’s :
    “I hate Sean Hannity Hot Line” I’m glad some have agreed to the idea. I’m not sure how often he plays the messages, I know at least once a week he plays them, so here is the number:
    1-877-Sean 930.
    I think if a lot of us call and leave messages that we HATE that Sean and the MSM have not vetted the POTUS – if there are enough calls – maybe he will air a few. As it is, the messages are all mean and nasty. We don’t have to scream into the phone nasty messages – maybe raise your voice a bit and tell Sean how you HATE that he hasn’t discussed the problems. One thing that upset me with Sean was he kept saying ” Journalism died in 2008″ and I would always think … “what about you Sean? Why did you let it die?” Another one that I think may speak up is Glenn Beck. He is so refreshing!
    The number again for Sean:

    1-877-SEAN 930

    EVERYONE CALL AND TELL SEAN HOW WE HATE THAT Barry HASN’T BEEN VETTED. WE HATE THAT HE WON’T RELEASE HIS COLB, WE HATE THAT HE HAS SEALED HIS RECORDS, ETC…
    BUT TELL SEAN YOU HATE THAT HE
    ( SEAN ) HASN’T TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT IS GOING ON.
    If enough of us do it … maybe, just maybe, he will have the nerve to air them.

    Thanks everyone.

  3. well i am mad as h*ll
    and i am not going to take it anymore

    what about the rest of you?

  4. Not to be a “party pooper” here, but how many are familiar with DiLorenzo?

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo-arch.html

    How does one praise an individual who supposedly “preserved” the Constitution, but simultaneously pissed continuously on that very same document?

  5. I smell a Revolution brewing in the midst.

  6. whereswaldo2008

    The Hate Hannity Hotline is up and running and ready for your abuse! Just call the toll-free number with your choice of words for Sean and we could play your comments on “Hannity”!

    (877) SEAN-930

    That’s (877) 732-6930

  7. Dear Precious People,

    If there is any ONE “founder” to be revered and emulated, it would not be ANY of our Presidents (with the humble exceptions of Jefferson and Jackson). I would say that that ONE person (if had to be just ONE person), would be the ONE individual, and the ONLY individual who signed all FOUR of this great nation’s “founding documents.”

    ONE, who was a member of the “Committee of Five,” along with Jefferson and Adams. The ONE individual that Jefferson herald as “a man who never said a foolish thing in his life.” The ONE individual who was the author of possibly the most important (nay say critical) Section of an Article of the Constitution. The ONE Section that more than any defines this nation’s CURRENT predicament. To quote a recent deceased national author and patriot:

    “To the extent that we participate in an ECONOMIC SYSTEM THE CONSTITUTION WAS FRAMED TO PREVENT, we are not a law-abiding nation.”

    http://tuppersaussy.com/museum/html/writings/constitution/caveatagainst.html

    So, WHERE “Dear Precious People,” do you think we should proceed from here? If we honestly believe and wish to alleviate ourselves from this “predicament,” (this is WAY beyond just Obama and the “NBC” issue) what does our Constitution (formulated by our founders) INSTRUCT us to do? Perhaps we are in this “mess” precisely because of inadhesion to this ONE Section of the Article, and ALL other “dominoes” FALL in accordance to this principle?

  8. thanks for Sean’s hate no.—I’m angry that
    he dropped the ball months ago. I’ll call
    tomorrow and leave the vetting message &
    release of all “sealed” BHO documents.
    ++++
    also totally agree with da verg

  9. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

    Read ” Obama’s “Community Organizing” is a Bust”. Not everything is going well for the prez.

  10. venice,

    You can search for an event in your neighborhood:

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/search_simple?source=sidenav

    When you click on each event – and then “details” you can see how many have signed up. I was delighted to discover almost no one has signed up in Sacramento!

  11. Ladyhawke,

    In my city of nearly 1 million people. only 1 person has signed up. Hahahaha.

    And why on earth would anyone attend meetings on Valentine’s day???

  12. Well, I haven’t signed up here where I live, and I wouldn’t even worry about Valentine’s Day, if I did sign up, which I don’t keep anyway because of its pagan origin.

  13. Mary Brown: Do you have any real evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii? And no, not that certificate of live birth on his website, that doesn’t count.

    When you can supply proof that he is who he says he is, then make your point.

  14. Mary Brown,

    I see we meet again. Welcome back.

  15. MaryBrown…

    Don’t worry.When the Revolution takes place just make sure you’re waiving a white flag, so we don’t confuse you with someone from the Anti-Constitutional side of the issue.

    Hopefully we will take our country back in about 2-3 days, once the war breaks out.

    I don’t want to be gone very long, as i’ve got a life to get back to.

  16. MaryBrown is an Obot.

  17. Citizen,

    Since I welcomed MaryBrown the last time, I thought it was only polite to welcome her again. But she didn’t return the favor. They never like my responses, I just don’t know why….

  18. Obviously MMMMMMSSSSS. Brown Thinks that it is OK for a President to turn his back to the Constitution which by the way (he pledged to uphold). He provided aid and comfort to a sworn enemy in a time of war. He provided the enemy with relief from the charges of Perpetrator of the bombing of the USS Cole,which resulted in the deaths of 17 innocent US sailors. By virtue of his criminal act he has done a treasonous act against the United States and must face criminal charges. In addition to his treasonous treachery he has laughed at the deaths of our sailors as though it was a joke. Mary Brown you are a first class NINCOMPOOP to beleive the TRIPE that you obviously believe. I am a US Navy veteran of the Korean war, and before that a member of our National Guard. I am now 76 years of age but still have a good mind. I recommend that you engage the services of the best psychiatrist that you can find. You are loonier than Pelosi,and she is about the fruitiest of the fruits that I have ever seen come out of the land of FRUITS and NUTS. Does what I said make you really mad. It is supposed to. I want to watch you go off the deep end. What is more I want you to make an ASS out of yourself a SECOND time so that everyone on Citizen Wells has a chance to read your PSYCHOTIC DRIVEL. If you are such a fan of OBAMA”S why are you on a conservative blog? You have to know that you will be laughed right out of town. If you think that you can make people on Citizen Wells believe that UP is DOWN, and BLACK is WHITE you are even nuttier than I first thought. Most of the people who I have had the PLEASURE of exchanging ideas with on CW are well educated,and intelligent people. Why don’t you hunt up a PRO OBAMA BLOG. Then you will be able to spout your looney crap and everyone will praise you.
    By the way are you a relative of Joe Biden? Your language makes me think of him. I won’t say why,specifically, but it has to do with the color BROWN. I will let you figure out what that refers to.

  19. Feb
    I just went to the site about Obama Events and this is what was listed. I just copied and pasted. The following is exactly how it was written :

    how to revamp our comunities

    help iliterate people to read asnd write
    Economic Recovery Meeting
    Details »

  20. Picture Jack Nicholson on the witness stand.
    “You can’t handle the truth!”
    Very true of them.

  21. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/index.html

    I’m only using this link for its title. 3 Senators are supporting the bill, and surprise only 3 are required.

    If no one has noticed yet, which I doubt, it’s staggering how Obama always just gets just the minimum he needs to move him to the next step, be it superdelegates, cash, appointments to his Cabinet, use of his blackberry, whatever. The rules are always broken of course to achieve this. It never really matters what the rules are, or how they are broken.

    Instead of appearing on stage on the eve of November 4, full of excitement and a sense of accomplishment, with his family by his side, he appeared sullen (at least for someone who had just won the presidential election). He appeared impatient, barely bearing up to the hoopla of the occasion, eager to get to his next destination . That’s what the hurry with this bill is about. Boy, there must be a lot that has to get done, preferably without anyone noticing what transpired.

    The forces behind this coup are formidable indeed.

  22. venice // February 8, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    I don’t think the numbers are going in the right direction for BO.
    ***************

    Actually, when you think about it, they ARE going in the RIGHT direction. If they were going up, they’d be going left. :-)

    Couldn’t happen to a more incompetent loser…

  23. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/08/anti-war-lawmakers-worry-obamas-plan-afghanistan/

    What will be in store for Afghanistan? The answers may be about as forthcoming as those for the stimulus bill and Americans once again will feel betrayed.

  24. Not naming anyone, but have any of you revolution prone blowhards been at war? It might seem glorious while at your computer, or strutting around in your head like a Green Mountain Boy, but you foment war here and you’ll put everyone’s family at grave risk. It’s like you’re calling down arty on your own position.

    Let the electorate take care of this. The press will soon tire of being Obama’s water boy. He’s already using up a lot of the good will he socked away during his phantom appearance as the ‘angel of light’ during the campaign. A big reason he won is because WE ran the ‘viagra candidate’. Sarah demonstrated that for all to see by almost pulling McCain over the hill into the White House. People stayed home because of McCain. We have the winning program for the future… Sarah and conservatives as good as she is. What the country doesn’t need is for a bunch of internet connected plotters and braggards marching around with their muskets, springing the ambush set for the liberals by thinking conservatives who can’t do anything but capitalize on Obama’s extra-human chutzpah and naiveté.

    Look at what’s happening with this bailout thing. People are flooding Congress, getting the bill bogged down in common sense. We are having success. Our participation in Democracy is paying off. Another thing Congress is going to hear about big time is the ‘prisoner of war camps’ that that goofball, convicted felon Alstee Hastings of Florida wants to set up. But the idea will be much harder to defeat if the whole country sees a need for them by the actions of some.

    So go dump your canteens, put up your LRPs and lock up your smooth-bores… Democracy isn’t through yet. And go join ‘sarahpac.com’

  25. Are there guns and ammo over at Sarahpac.com?

    If so, i’ll join :)

  26. Turnright,

    War is the last and ultimate solution to a problem that won’t go away through political means. No one here wants to see it, but unfortunately it is coming. Read up on history. We are following an obviously familiar historical timeline.

    Let’s look at the facts (they will sound familiar to the 1760’s):

    1. Lack of sovereignty (see all 20 state bills introduced)
    2. Theft by the government (bailouts, corruption, etc)
    3. Taxation without representation (America cries foul but our government doesn’t listen)
    4. Attempts to quell the voices of the people
    5. Dictator rule (see Komrad Obama)
    6. Overtaxation (40% – 65% total income)
    7. Record unemployment (it’s coming)
    8. Harboring of enemies (treason – see released GITMO detainees)

    We could go on and on, but war is coming. People of this nation will sit by and watch things unfold. But, when the government continues to STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE WHILE STEALING AWAY THEIR RIGHTS THEY WILL FIGHT BACK.

    Let us hope someone in Washington has some brains and moxy to steer the republic back on track. At this point I personally have no faith in this blundering excuse for a government, so I will continue to get prepared for the inevitable. I suggest the same. Get food and supplies. Prepare an escape plan to get you and your family to a safe haven out of harm’s way. Create a distaster plan. Stock up with cash and precious metals.

  27. I am someone who owns a blog about Barack Obama. My website link has been provided with my comment. My blog is simply a “musings and ramblings” blog; much of it is philosophical, cultural, general. I have had no political agenda, but I did support Barack Obama, both in the primaries, and in the general election. I was a visitor on this site many months back: I was transfixed by a post comparing Obama to Hitler. I recall Citizen wells responded to my remarks, in a manner most congenial and intelligent. I have read through many of these more recent posts now. This blog would appear to be thriving, and growing. I am fascinated with the overarching agenda, and not so much with the details ( i.e. Larry Sinclair, Obama having possibly been born in Kenya, the obvious extremes and hypocritical tendencies of a Pelosi, etc.). Philosophically, there is what might be called an “epistemic privilege” regarding the author of this blog. What fascinates, and compels, is the substratum knowledge, and the palpable sense that there is an urgency which is very real. I think Obama is merely symptom, consequence, incident, of a larger unstoppable trend. It is the trend of globalization itself. Events are in the saddle, and ride us. Reagen spoke of small government, and did MUCH to further globalization. The interest in pharmaceutical companies in the middle east, so much a part of the Bush family, had no place in the Jeffersonian vision of America as a land of free gentleman farmers. Technology, the Internet, markets: These are in fact the true impetus, which drives America and globalization, and of which ir will one day perish, self-destructed, If Obama was Kenyan born, this is merely consequence of a global sense, and the uncanny dawning that there is in fact no Republic. “It went by, in the night, singing songs. We mourn for what we have allowed to slip away.” America is no longer a true “country”: It is global: It is everywhere and nowhere. Succession, the splitting up into small independent states and a return to regionalism: These are the future, after the coming anarchy. I wish you all well. SMK , Musing in Obama’s America

  28. Citizen Wells, I applaud you. We must all work together to take back this country from the so-called ‘ruling class’. There was never meant to be one. They have become enthralled with themselves, elitist through their arrogance, emboldened by their power. They must be de-throned. And they will be. They will be defeated by the minds and hearts of true Americans, they will be defeated by the steam roller of the Constitution, and they will be defeated at the ballot box. Count me in for the TRICKLE UP REVOLUTION.

  29. SM Kovalinsky,

    You appear to be pre-empting a response to your post by wishing us well, but here goes anyway.

    The pre-deterministic nature of your thesis calls for a submission to this “coming anarchy”. While many would not argue with many of your facts, much like one would not argue with AIDS wiping out much of Africa, capitulation as a solution hardly seems palatable. But your post was interesting nonetheless.

  30. Hello everyone. Does anyone else feel disgusted at hearing the ACORN group is to receive their first payment through the Stimulus Entitlement ?
    I know the answer but still wanted to pose the question.
    I just watched some Youtubes from the July 08 convention of this non-profit org. I was amazed to hear such bold endorsements for Obama.
    Isn’t this a direct conflict with the legal limitations of a non profit org.? Please reply if you know the answer.

    from Acorn website:

    ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization
    with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and
    Washington, D.C.

  31. Obama to use the porkulus money for Democrat patronage jobs (more than the US Army–no whites no skilled workers need apply) to buy the 2012 election, which is why the money is being withheld until 2010 and 2011 and kept secret.

    Thugocracy Mobocracy paid for by the unwilling taxpayer

  32. Venice: Thank you for your remarks. I have become rather fatalistic, it is true. The enormity of the problem is overwhelming. There seems to be no simple solution, as things are so entangled beneath the surface, and antecedents to this present crisis are so many, and reach across both parties. I look at the fears and concerns regarding an Obama presidency as interesting symptoms; a cry of alarm which must sound, even as things will play out as they will. The left was crying “Hitler” and seeing signs of apocolypse throughout the 2 W Bush terms. Perhaps the struggle is not in vain, though. Certainly seeds are being planted. I find this a formidable blog site, and one which will be watched keenly, by those of us on the left, who are aware that we got “stuck” here, and know not how to extricate ourselves. Best regards.

  33. To SM: If Obama was born in Kenya, he does not meet the qualifications of OUR Constitution. It has nothing to do with globalization. The man is a fraud, and if you were stupid to drink his kool aid as many did, then you will be happy you voted for a man who is trying to bring the United States to socialism, then on to communism. The reason so many young people voted for the Usurper was because unfortunately they do not teach about socialism or communism anymore in school. Most young people do not know anything about Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Chavez. So, the young drank the kool-aid, and they may end up like Jim Jones’ followers. To me, your comments were very sarcastic. If you are an Obot, go back to your musings.bkw

  34. David, as far as I am concerned, ACORN should not be receiving any money as they are under investigation for voter fraud. The more dishonest a person or organization is–the better Obama likes it. bkw

  35. Well, I would leave it for Citizen Wells to tell me if I am or am not allowed to stay and comment here. I have never told any right wing responders to leave MY blog. I welcome challenges. In a free Democracy, no ideas are ever to be repressed. That sort of thinking is more like a Stalin. I must say, Citizen Wells, to my memory, was almost aristocratic in his politeness, and in his willingness to listen to my concerns. Venice as well, had that openness and calmness which marks the democratic mind. Your thoughts of KoolAid and Stalin make you sound hysterical, almost paranoid. They do a disservice to Mr. Wells, and to his obviously high standards of journalism. We do have a free press, still. Or at least a pretense of one. Cheers; SMK. PS: The type of Socialism which is engulfing us will bear no resemblance to a Stalin regime. These are high-tech, global, and glitzy times. The past is gone.

  36. SM,

    No matter how big this issue is (and it is enormous), we the people can overcome it. It will take a tremendous amount of unification, but we have run up against this level of corruption and oppression before.

    We must simply apply what the framers advised us to do. Everything else should fall into place.

  37. However SMK…

    The gulags have transposed. Alcee Hastiings, one of our most propicious and astute members of Congress, master of slight of hand, has brought forward for all dissenters to enjoy, our very own internment facilities… Obama Camps. Soon, no longer will the country have to suffer Democracy, that leftover from fairytale school books. Rather quickly Left and Right can be cellmates, enjoying re-education, just as in post war Vietnam. But of course, with an ever eager eye toward the future, should there be those able to hold on to prior thoughts, those wings of the free, there is the plastic shredder, a constant reminder to conform.

    Sarah is the distance runner of the 1984 Mac Superbowl commercial. Build her up.

  38. Jeff: I mentally salute you for your polite response. Certainly, the actions of men with an over-arching idealism and respect for the Constitution cannot fail to bring about something coherent and fruitful. A return to the classical roots of this nation can never be in vain, and heroic struggle – even against an enormous machine of unsurpassed proportions – will bring good in its train. Follow the framers, and my sincere best wishes to you. History is yours to make, to alter, and to know through your living. This is a most unusual blog ( I read only the highest quality) and this I consider to be of a form which is excessively high. Citizen Wells is a true historian and free thinker.

  39. Turn Right: My god, I hope you are wrong about the camps! I pray you are wrong. That is too sinister to even contemplate. God help us all if that is what it should come to, Good night, all.

  40. Fawning and idolizing another canidate in Sarah Palin? Get a grip! Has sarah made any attempt to blow the whistle about Soetoro? NO. She is not better than Hannity.

  41. Jacqlyn Smith

    The following is from RightSoup. This should make everyone really go bonkers!!!! Please Lord tell me it isn’t so!!!
    =================================

    Geithner To Ask For $1.3 Trillion For Banks Tomorrow
    Add Your Comment » February 9, 2009
    Posted by: Erin

    I know I told you Treasury Secretary Geithner was coming TODAY with his hat in hand, but because the Senate is still wrangling over Porkulus, he’s postponed his speech until tomorrow. Because, you know, it would look unseemly to ask the American taxpayers for $1.3 trillion MORE dollars for financial institutions on the same day the Senate may vote in the $800 billion dollar Porkulus.

    So tomorrow, Goldman Sachs’ tax-cheat Geithner will try to make his case for shoveling another incredible sum of money into the black hole of the toxic banks. The $350 billion left in the TARP fund isn’t gonna cut it, so here comes TARP 2. Don’t forget, out of the first $350 billion Congress gave the banks, $78 billion went for overpaying for “assets”. Truthfully, we overpayed by $350 billion dollars. Exactly how will this work any better if we add another trillion dollars?

    Right Soupers, we’ve talked a lot about the derivative securities insanity that has decimated our financial institutions. The amount of toxic derivative asset exposure held by these banks is approximately $600 trillion dollars. Please let that sink in for a moment. What in the hell will a trillion do, except put us into more debt for LITERALLY nothing. Let me explain.

    Do not be fooled when Geithner tries to tell you that these toxic assets are home mortgages gone bad. They are not. Individual bad mortgages themselves are a tiny part of the problem. No, it’s what Wall Street DID with those mortgages…pooled them, then sliced them up, then put them into a myriad of tranches, sold them all over the globe, and the institutional buyers leveraged the holy crap out of them. At a 90%-10% ratio. The banks also bet your farm on other derivative “collateralized debt obligations” of every type you could possibly conceive. Enron thought up many of these. You see how that worked out for them, and we are still experiencing Enron’s fallout. Enron literally would create a derivative for anything you wanted. The banks got the bonus of AIG or MBIA insuring their “investment”. Here’s a great story about a pretty typical trader…picked for his gambling skills. Great explanation of the derivatives game too.

    Our financial institutions played the derivatives game, (probably still are) and many of these toxic trades have yet to be unwound, ergo the $600 trillion dollar black hole of exposure. The derivatives are trash…worthless, kaput. What’s more, these extremely complex trades are SO beyond the Securities and Exchange commission’s ability to understand (ahem, Madoff), and bank regulators are dumber than the SEC. Trust me. Do you really think that Congress has a clue?!

    Soooo, it’s time to clog the voicemails and crash the email servers again. Think of it as trying to kill two birds with one stone today…Porkulus AND Geithner’s grand grab. Our country will look like a third-world nation if our legislators put this debt on us. Economists are saying if we do nothing, this recession could be over within 6-9 months. If, however, our Congress and our President act in this incredibly dangerous manner, our economy will have a very, very hard time EVER recovering.

    You know the drill. Click here to easily blow up your Representatives’ communications apparatus.

  42. Remember what happened when McCain was pushing and ramming for the Mex-illegals’ amnesty?  The RNC went so broke that they no longer had enough money to pay their telephone solicitors.

    Why not remind them that the same thing could happen if they do not succeed at convincing the RINOs to vote with the rest of the Republican party AGAINST the porkulus trough?

    Michael Steele:
    Chairman@gop.com

    — and —

    Administration@gop.com
    Counsel@gop.com
    ecampaign@gop.com
    Finance@gop.com
    Info@gop.com
    MemberRelations@gop.com
    Membershipservices@gop.com
    Political@gop.com

  43. The Left would not be happy with Lincoln, if they really read anything he wrote. You see, he believed in winning the war for the Union. He was always prodding his generals to fight. Finally, he settled on U.S. Grant. He knew how to fight!

    In contrast, Jefferson Davis had legions of generals who knew how to fight, and fight well.

    The worldview of the Left is so ancient, it even has a Greek name: ‘eirenism.’ That word means in English: ‘peace at any price.’

    That was NOT Lincoln, but that is General McClellan: read his campaign against Lincoln for the Presidency in 1864. He lost! When the Army voted, McClellan lost!

  44. BTW, the rumor mill has already begun that Rahm will be gone, and soon.

    He will be the scapegoat for the mess of the stimulus package. That will be then very interesting, because that will put Blago and Rahm on the outside looking in. That could be a disaster for the Mahdi Obama.

  45. Bob,

    Maybe wishful thinking, but given the increasing negative tone of the media towards the One, is this an indication that the puppet masters are not happy?
    As I said wishful thinking.

  46. Jacqyln,
    Tim G probably will only deal with the 350B tomorrow, but at the same time, hint at the size of the next installment. Kind of like conditioning us. They don’t want to scare us anymore than they have to until they get the stimulus done.

    The bank bailout at $1.2T, no suprise, the financial markets have been talking about this for quite some time. I feel this amount is just a down payment.

    Also, the talk of the dollar and bond markets tanking is something of concern. The possiblity is very real. Where is all of this bailout money coming from. Taxes are not being raised so that leaves two options. The fed montarizing the debt, hello runaway inflation, or selling more bonds, hello runaway interest rates.

    The fed is going to increase the number of auctions in the near future. They are already having problems selling whats being offered, this is not a good sign.

    Eric

  47. That’s the treasury selling the bonds, not the fed.
    Eric

  48. There are two daily discussions threads to read about the grand jury idea on the new obama crimes website.They are seeking volunteers.Justice Now
    seems to be leading the effort if you wish to check this out.

  49. Check out this weeks cover and story in NewsWeek magazine. We ARE Socialists is the wonderful theme and they are proud of it. We will be just like—- wait for it—-France! They think it’s just terrfic tha tAmerica is finally getting it. It is out there as bold as can be folks. I sure hope people now are paying attention to what’s going on. Between bankrupting us so we are dependent on the govt. for everything and pulling us full into Socialism, they are moving their agenda at warp speed. Americans are being duped and scammed and they had better get on board to protes or there won’t be an America anymore.

  50. redneck sympathizer

    Hey..just in .A response from my mom’s rep. in East Texas. Good’ol’redneck.Notice the opening with Christian emphasis!
    Please add to hall of FAME!!

    February 6 in the Year of our Lord 2009

    Ms. Jackson

    Tyler, TX 75702-8000
    Dear Ms. Jackson,

    Thank you for contacting me in regards to President-Elect Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of President. I appreciate having the benefit of your views on this issue.

    Dozens of lawsuits challenging Mr. Obama’s eligibility to serve as President have been filed in state and federal courts all over the country, including a suit filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip Berg that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear on January 12, 2009. Mr. Berg is now attempting to sue in the name of a retired U.S. Air Force Colonel to determine whether Mr. Obama is qualified to give orders calling the colonel back into the service. Please know that I will continue to closely follow this important legal issue as it works its way through our judicial system.

    You are right to be concerned with anything as important as the Constitutional requirements for holding the highest elected office in this country. Failing to be concerned would send a message that the law just doesn’t matter if you’re in a high enough office. I believe the system will work and the whole truth will eventually be public. In the meantime, I truly do appreciate your input and also having the opportunity to be your servant in the United States House of Representatives.

    With kindest regards, I am

    Very Truly Yours,

    Hon. Louie Gohmert

  51. 1/7 – Syndrome of Control – Lindsey Williams

    This video will let you know the thought patterns of the fallen ones and how and why they think the way they do..

  52. NO MONEY FOR ACORN IN THE ECONOMY STIMULUS BILL!!

    The House excluded money for Illinois if Blagojevich remained as governor.

    ACORN is under investigation for voter fraud so this economy stimulus bill MUST NOT PROVIDE money for ACORN!!!

    YOU MAY WANT TO POST YOUR OWN COMMENTS HERE:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/08/obama-its-stimulus-or-catastrophe/

    OR HERE:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/08/republicans-house-democrat-wary-stimulus-bill/

    OR HERE:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/08/liberal-group-praises-crossover-republicans-minority-leaders-balk-partisanship/

    Many of you may already be aware of this great website.

    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

    It gives information on recent headlines, issues and opinions and has links that allow you to write to your elected officials. You can learn about current bills in Congress and how your Senators and Representatives voted. It also allows the viewers to read letters written to our leaders; posted where the WHOLE WORLD can read them (published with permission). This is a GOOD WAY TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT TO THE PUBLIC. When writing to your Congressmen/women , they recommend that your letters not be lengthy.

  53. redneck sympathizer (and all).
    Thanks for the letter(s).
    We are moving forward with our efforts, the WHY initiative to
    find out why congressmen believed Obama was eligible and why
    no one challenged the Electoral vote.
    We will be providing more details in the next few days.
    For now, we will sit down with any congressman, and discuss this.
    We will provide any documentation necessary and ask for their
    documentation. Their will be people such as myself, Dean Haskins
    and others available to meet with them.
    We are seeking the truth.
    If any of you have an inside track to any congressman, let us know.
    Wells.

  54. Air Force Brat

    Redneck Sympathizer — all I can say is “WOW”! What an outstanding response. So much different than what one is used to seeing.

  55. Since Obama’s earnest drive to convince the nation to weaken its economic strength through redistribution as well as weaken its national defense, COUPLED WITH HIS UNPRECEDENTED WHITE HOUSE TAKEOVER OF DECENNIAL CENSUS TAKING FROM THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, has confirmed the very threats to our Republic’s survival that the Constitution was designed to avert, it no longer is sustainable for the United States Supreme Court and Military Joint Chiefs to refrain from exercising WHAT IS THEIR ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO DEFEND THE NATION FROM UNLAWFUL USURPATION. The questions of Obama’s Kenyan birth and his father’s Kenyan/British citizenship (admitted on his own website) have been conflated by his sustained unwillingnes to supply his long form birth certificate now under seal, and compounded by his internet posting of a discredited ‘after-the-fact’ short form ‘certificate’. In the absence of these issues being acknowledged and addressed, IT IS MANIFEST THAT OBAMA REMAINS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Being a 14th Amendment ‘citizen’ is not sufficient. A ‘President’ MUST BE an Article 2 ‘natural born citizen’ AS DEFINED BY THE FRAMERS’ INTENT.

  56. GREAT NEWS FOR CHALLENGING BHO AS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL USURPER, FINALLY!!! Obama has just handed “legal standing” on a silver platter. Just google “Associated Builders and Contractors”, “Executive Order” and “Obama” (under blogs, news and web).

    Perhaps someone should contact that Trade Organization and simply tell them they can challenge BHO’s Executive Order severely harming their members (as well as American taxpayers).

  57. redneck sympathizer

    I have found out more about this gentleman. He has no airs,is often to be found mixing with his constituents in the beautiful but small old-time town of Tyler.My mom sees him at the Lowes store she works at or a local restaurant.He is ballistic about the TARP funds debacle and offered a tax holiday for taxpayers.A secretary that works with my sister said she helped his campaign when he ran for Congress and he was a federal judge before.She said he is a good man.

  58. Jacqlyn Smith

    BO is in Elkhart, Ind. now…thinks he is still on the campaign trail and people are still sucking up his BS!!! What is wrong with these idiots. He is all about propaganda and telling the people he is the Savior and here to rescue them. Unless we do it his way we are all doomed!!! I can’t even stand his arrogance anymore. I have to turn the station. Please someone else watch and report on it!!

  59. I spoke to Maria Cantwell’s bitchy surly nasty confrontative insulting emoting disaster of an assistant about the “Stimulus Package”…

    She said that ALL of the money must be spent by 2010 or it will be not granted. She said that 6% of the money is for government jobs. She said that there is no discrimination allowed in the bill. She was unaware of the comment made by Obama’s economic adviser that “no white male construction workers need apply”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4

    She also said that Barack’s father would have had to have applied for him to have Kenyan citizenship so he never had dual citizenship. I said well, his mother never applied for him to have US citizenship either! She said that “The US Constitution says that only one parent needs to be a US Citizen for a child to be “natural born””
    She said that an American father could have a baby with a Vietnamese woman in Vietnam and the baby would still be a natural born citizen.

    Un-believable

    She hung up on me, too, when I said that Obama lied about (I was going to say that he said he would have no lobbyists in his administration but she hung up).

    So, THIS is our representation folks, a bunch of stupid cast in concrete dictators.

  60. She also at first said that Obama was born in the midwest, then put me on hold and came back and said he lived in the midwest, which he did not.
    She also said that he was never an Indonesian citizen and that anyone can go to public schools in Indonesia and that it was meaningless that his school registration said he was an Indo citizen or that Soetoro’s divorce papers show him as adopted.
    She said his mother never became an Indonesian citizen.
    She cut me off when I said that his sister has a Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii though she was born in Jakarta.
    I’m still shaking inside, she was WAR-LIKE.

  61. She said that I was being disrespectful to question his eligibility.
    She said that nobody disputes that he isn’t eligible. I said there’s 40 lawsuits and the AOL Strawpoll shows 65% of Americans do not believe him and he is not being forthcoming in hiding all of his documentation.
    She said, “If you were running for president would you want all your documents ‘out there’?” I said that he hadn’t released any transcripts from any University and she started badgering and belittling me how he was a Harvard Law professor and that he obviously, to anyone who’s not blind, graduated from Harvard. Then I said that he had not released any transcripts again, and that nobody knows him from Columbia and he was even offered $1 Million from the president of his alumni association to release his transcripts because HE doesn’t remember him (same year graduation, same major polysci), and Obama has not done so.
    Maybe she could only get abusive because I won on the intellectual points.
    I quoted US v Wong Kim Ark, Perkins v Elg, John Bingham, Sec. Chertoff, Sen. Leahy, and Barack Obama himself (SR 511) and she still said only one parent need be a US citizen. She said Obama never said he was born with Kenyan citizenship!! Yes, he did!!

  62. Jacqlyn Smith

    nawanawanga—This is war!!! We are having our rights stripped away from us piece by piece!! This BS PORKULUS Bill is going to pass and we all are going to be one step deeper in our graves!

  63. Remember, no matter what these scumbag congressmen do now,
    the 2010 election is around the corner. We will be ready for them.

  64. What I learned is this:
    If you call these schmucks, quote STATS they crawl back into their filthy little holes from them:

    AOL Straw Poll 65% do not believe Obama about his eligibility.
    Rasmussen: 43% are against the stimulus packages, 32% are for it, the rest undecided.
    Boxer got over 60,000 calls against the bill and less than 10,000 for it, but she and others are still voting for it.
    This bill will enslave our grandchildren! (They hate the term slavery, but that’s exactly what this is doing, forming a new class of endentured servants!!)
    Then queue up and play Robert Reich DISCRIMINATORY quote that while males need not apply for stimulus jobs:

    ALL THEY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT IS POLLING NUMBERS

  65. venice wrote:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

    I don’t think the numbers are going in the right direction for BO.
    —————————————————————————————————–

    ha ha here’s a summary:
    from 1-21-09, the day after the election, until 2-9-09, which would be his first 19 days in office, his approval rating index went from 28 to 14 …. ha ha, that’s HALF!

  66. citizenwells wrote:

    Remember, no matter what these scumbag congressmen do now, the 2010 election is around the corner. We will be ready for them.
    ——————————————————————————————————–

    Exactly! I just read at a government site that 36 out of the 100 senators’ seats will be up for grabs in 2010!!! We need to find out which exact Senators’ seats these are and immediately … as in NOW … start finding out which ones were Democrats (therefore have voted for the Stinkulus Bill) and:

    Write to them saying that their vote for the Stinkulus Bill will be remembered when your seat is up for grabs in 2010. That it will be no secret how you voted to bankrupt America.

    Go to mikehuckabee.com to find out the contact info for every senator and representative.

    Citizen Wells, can you find out which democratic senators are up for reelection in 2010 and publish it in an article on your blog so we can contact them all and let them know that their vote to bankrupt America will be remembered on Nov. 2, 2010?

    We also need to find out WHO is running against them and then promote those people so they can defeat the incumbents.

  67. PS to anyone listing a poll: Please put up the stats because I’ve noticed when they don’t go in Barky’s direction, the poll disappears!!

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/51#c16995407

    Last I saw 65% of Americans DO NOT BELIEVE OBAMA, then the weasley numbskull koolaid drooler who put up this poll took it down! He’s been known to call us “tinfoil hatters” and “birthers” so his bias is obvious!

    ALSO PLEASE CALL YOUR LOCAL RADIO STATIONS TO SUPPORT THEIR PROGRAMMING OF ALL VIEWPOINTS

    I do not agree with Michael Savage all of the time, but I SUPPORT FREE SPEECH, tell the program manager that if they stick up for free speech they will get MORE advertisers!!

    http://mediamatters.org/action_center/savage_action/stations

    This address will direct you to contact information for all your conservative talk radio stations in your area!
    You can thank media matters, the big anti-free-speech pro-censorship pro-fascism organization, for information on how to support free speech!

  68. Whew! I feel better knowing one of my senators has “improved” the bill. Senator Udall – even tho I didn’t ‘hire’ you, I will do everything I can to FIRE YOU!

    Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:03:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: senator_noreply@markudall.senate.gov
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: The Spending Package

    Thursday, February 05, 2009

    Dear ,

    Thank you for contacting me regarding the economic recovery bill being debated in the United States Senate. I appreciate your taking the time to write and expressing your specific concerns about this important legislation. Several thousand Coloradans have contacted me to share their views.

    With the worst economic crisis facing our nation since the Great Depression, it is important that we do all we can to give a boost to our economy. According to the U.S. Department of Labor, the national unemployment rate has increased to over 7%, a problem that is adversely affecting many Colorado families. Along with rising unemployment, many Coloradans are struggling to stay in their homes as a direct result of the hardships they have faced because of the current economic crisis.

    I believe that we must act to keep Coloradans working, but we must be thorough and get every assurance we can from the best minds, best historians, and best economists to ensure that this legislation will provide the necessary boost to our economy. This package must be transparent and restore accountability to the expenditure of federal monies. Importantly, I want to make sure that the bill is heavily weighted towards creating jobs to stimulate the economy as soon as possible. We have a talented workforce in Colorado and I believe that with the right federal policies, we will be able to keep Coloradans at work and keep them in their homes.

    During debate of the economic recovery bill thus far, I have partnered with senators from both parties to improve the bill so that the federal government will spend taxpayer dollars effectively. Moreover, I have filed several amendments that would help re-direct federal monies into job-creating projects that would help put Colorado back on the right economic path. As the bill is being considered you can be sure that my staff and I will keep your suggestions and concerns in mind.

    Thanks again for contacting me. My job is not merely about supporting or opposing legislation. It is also about bridging ideological divides and bringing people together to solve problems. I welcome your letters and e-mails and always listen closely to what you and other Coloradans have to say about matters before Congress, the concerns of our communities, and the issues facing our state and nation.

    Warm Regards,

    Mark Udall
    United States Senator, Colorado

  69. The reason that congress is not listening to the American people about the stimulus bill is that, once passed, it will funnel so much money and power to democrats and voter fraud that they won’t need us anymore anyway.

    Our vote will be obsolete.

  70. CW,
    Do you know of any Republican that is planning on runing against the scumbag Arlen Spector in next years primary? If so let me know, I have a lot of time and resources and want to help send him back where he came from. The sewer.
    Eric

  71. http://www.nostimulus.com/

    Americans for Prosperity is hand delivering petitions to Congress. They were on FOX this am and their site has crashed all day due to overload. It’s possible to get on, be patient if you can.

  72. I think regarding A.Lincoln, I would have substituted constitution for ‘union’…because to declare the union perpetual wasn’t quite right. The constitution is perpetual, but the Union has to be an agreement between a state and the Union. If and when the Union breaches their reach or oversteps their bounds…States MUST have the right to fight those bonds with everything in it’s power. This is better fought at the polls then on the battlefield. Lincoln knew this. Fighting slavery is one thing…he could have fought that in the courts. He was fighting to preserve the union of states, and in doing so the states have become impotent as defenders of their own citizens and constitutions.

  73. The above from askmeike is brilliant. Absolutely historically correct. The Union is what has gone global, destroying state’s rights, and the old Republic. That is just a gem of an insight regarding Lincoln. I have posted a piece on Citizen Wells ( as a group) on my own blog site, I have made just this observation, independently, about Lincoln.

  74. Citizen Wells: Just wanted to say that your site is truly helpful and a place for all of us to feel something substantial is being done to head off this dismantling of America. I look forward to following your journey and joining in when it is possible. Thank you for all that you are doing. Cj

  75. Rick Santorem should be in Spector’s place, he was railroaded and is much the better senator.

    By now I would have expected our little group here to be discouraged and disassembled. We hav seen lawsuit after lawsuit pushed aside into the abyss of neverland. We have seen people post here in order to take up space and offer other views to spin us off topic. But it seems that the resolve remains. The question is how much longer will this go on.

    I for one, am as mad as h*ll and not going to take it anymore. So are many of you. So what is the correct vehicle to change this corrupt Federal system. I know that there are things in the works, and not to be revealed to the eyes of the bureacrat and obots and government operatives.
    So I await patiently, but will this cause wane? As surely BARRY wants it too.

    His presidency is a sham. He knows it, and Congress knows it, that it the educated members of Congress know it. But they don’t have the stainless steel balls to do anything about it. So something must be done to force them.

    The GOP is realizing now, that they have no power. And hence their support base, the conservatives at least, are completely frustrated and furious. And dont’ give me this crap about Bush and 8 years of this or that lies. The bottom line remains the FEDS are stealing our way of life. And I say NO NO NO NO NO and NO, and let’s do something about it. Time to send them a message. Time for our representatives to stand up, or be recalled. The time is now!

    I saw this on obamacrimes.com

    01/01/68: Indonesian School Record, “Name of School: Fransiskus Assisi School, Name: Barry Soetoro, Citizenship: Indonesian, Name of Parent: Lolo Soetoro, M.A. The school records indicate that Barack Obama Jr. aka Barry Soetoro attended first grade in Indonesia and that he was born in Honolulu Hawaii on 08/04/1961 and his father is Lolo Soetoro.

    And I have a question, was Lolo a US Citizen???

    If so, would that make BARRY natural born? Do adopted parents factor into the equation. Answer: I don’t think so.

    Barry must be removed from POTUS, he is a usurper by every definition of the word. How much longer must we , true Constitutional abiding Americans put up with this sham and flim flam man in the White House?

    I hope not much longer.
    For the sake of our way of life, our children, and our Constitution that so many of our representatives walk over every day they are in DC.

  76. I have just posted about the Kovalinsky piece regarding CW blog:

    http://is.gd/iXtv

  77. taradiddle,

    I completely concur. Remember very little done in this election has been “by the book”. The usual routes of correcting imbalances have been ineffective.

    The outcome of the primary was clearly manipulated….Senate seats can be also, just like the 3 so called Republicans that are required for the bill.

  78. Eric and all.
    There are going to be plenty of opportunities to hold Congress accountable.
    We are firming up a few details to allow participation.
    As concerned as we are about the “spending” bill, we are still focusing on
    the US Constitution and Obama’s lack of eligibility.
    Dean Haskins and I both agree we have to hold them accountable to the
    Constituiton first.

  79. Obama scraps ‘Buy American’ provisions

    President chooses to support globalists rather than U.S. workers

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88398

  80. From MommaE blog radio:

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  81. truthbetold11

    I say let it pass and the lawsuits will be by the 1000’s and more, watch and see then you will see more and more high power attorneys get invovled this is gonna get ugly! Justice always gets its head somewhere along the line

  82. In every election cycle — 1/3 of the Senate and 100% of the Congress are “up-for-grabs.”

    We need for those younger, intelligent bloggers on this site and others to recruit candidates, or step up themselves and run for office!

    When you see the caliber of what we got now, then you have to be able to see that MOST of you could do better!

    I think this is the biggest motivation there is behind the stimulus bill!

    Imagine yourself looking at 15 million “unemployed” Americans sitting down at their kitchen tables and talking over with their families, saying, “I think I would like to run for Congress! — The pay is good, the benefits are great, and I think I could do a better job than the idiot they elected last time!”

    You know that “tingle” — its probably running down the leg and not up the leg at about this point in that Congressperson’s imagination.

    Watch your step, CW, if you go into talk with them — I think you might mistake that spot on the carpet for a spilled cup of coffee!

  83. I’m getting the sinking feeling we’re following down the path of Reichsbanner…

  84. Jacqlyn Smith

    citizenwells // February 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Eric and all.
    There are going to be plenty of opportunities to hold Congress accountable.
    We are firming up a few details to allow participation.
    As concerned as we are about the “spending” bill, we are still focusing on
    the US Constitution and Obama’s lack of eligibility.
    Dean Haskins and I both agree we have to hold them accountable to the
    Constituiton first.
    =================================

    CW—-I agree!! If we can prove his ineligibility then nothing he has signed into law is legal!!! Correct….Wouldn’t that include all of the executive orders as well???

  85. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/washington/10stimulus-web.html?hp

    They passed the bill by a “razor thin margin”. What a joke, I think everyone by now has noticed that it’s all been “razor thin”. That’s what coersion by subterfuge involves.

  86. CW,
    Unless someone can produce a piece of paper, ie: original birth certificate, POE documents, passport, foreign students grants/loans, etc, I don’t see this going anywhere. Its quite obvious that no court is going to grant a ligitant discovery inorder to get these documents. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

    If some of the red states pass laws requiring documentation from the candidates in 2012, it won’t matter. BO will just ignore them because the he will have enough blue states to get re elected.

    Unless something off the wall happens in the House/Senate conference, the stimulus bill will be signed by “that one” within the next week. I sincerely hope I am wrong on this one also.

    The Dems need a net gain of one senate seat to have total control of the legislative process. If they acheive that in 2010, they will get all, and I mean all of their socialist agenda passed into law between 2011 and 2012. There will be no way to stop them.

    I feel we need to start focusing on 2010 right now. The campaigns will start in less than 12 months and you can bet the Democrates are already in the advanced planning stages. Regardless of how we feel about
    Ali Baba and his band of 40 thieves, they have the wind at their backs.

    They have the oval office, congress, better organized groups such as Acorn and moveon.org, better technology, ie: massive computer data bases developed during the past campaign cycle. It also appears that a large portion of the simulus package is designed to help them get re elected.

    We have not come together as a group with a cohesive plan or message. We need to do that and we need to do that now.
    Eric

  87. Wow, I just got a response from Senator Kyl of Arizona (I live in NJ!) and we definitely need to support him whenever he runs for reelection. I was amazed. He responded and then even attached an article he wrote for the newspaper. It’s long, but here is just one of the paragraphs below the line … Obama is a LIAR. Most people do not even know that the following thing is in the United States Economic Stimulus American Recovery Package, but I would like ALL of you to write to your two Senators (only if they are Democrats) tonight to express how appalled you are at what is included …. here’s a suggestion of what to write:
    ———————————————————————————————

    Dear Senator:
    Although Mr. Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats call it an American Recovery Economic Stimulus Package, the reason why the American people do not EXPLODE your fax lines, telephone lines and email is because they are not completely aware of what’s in this “bankrupt-America” bill.
    For example, there is a provision in this bill to provide millions of dollars to World War II Filipino veterans in the Philippines. Now how the hell is THAT going to help the American economy???

    If you voted for this bill, you are a fool, not a patriot. I hope that if it comes back to the Senate that you are not foolish enough to vote for it again.
    This bill needs to be cut in HALF and only be for immediate jobs and tax cuts.

    — An American Citizen (natural born)
    ————————————————————————————————–

    Go to http://www.mikehuckabee.com for all contact info.

  88. Eric, luckily, in this instance, you are mistaken. Notwithstanding that almost all of the attorneys who have thus far brought suit to out BO’s lack of Constitutional eligibility, drafted infirm cases doomed to fail, this does not mean ‘good’ cases cannot prevail. It never made sense to me that, Plaintiffs were alleging BO is not a NBC while simultaneously asking the court to order production. My military Complaint shifts the burden. But let’s bypass the court; much else can be done to expose BO is not a NBC.

    Laws in several states contain provisions like, the major political party must vet its candidate for POTUS for Constitutional eligibility; or the nominee of the party “shall” be eligible for the office sought. Nancy Pelosi signed a Certification BO was eligible for the job. (See the FACTS in the military Complaint.) But no one made her prove this. And, based on BO’s Answer to Berg’s Hollister Complaint, we have confirmed what I proposed in that military Complaint, that is, his strongest ‘evidence’ he is eligible is his old employer, Annenberg Political Fact Check. And that organization is de-bunked in my military Complaint. So, what did NP use to verify he was Constitutionally eligible?

    If you live in one of these states with laws requiring the political party to vet the candidate, file fraud complaints with your state law enforcement official, the AG. Because we know the party cannot have determined BO is a NBC, since he isn’t.

    Meanwhile, I am drafting a civil fraud Complaint against NP.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

  89. I truly believe that the Senators and Reps have all be misinformed by Nancy Pelosi et al regarding Obama’s eligibility and they all think it’s a moot point now.

    The problem is that they are misinformed. There’s a lot they don’t know. But I think we may have a little golden gem on our hands with Senator Kyl of Arizona and a couple of others I noticed responded well to some of us here.

    LET’S EDUCATE THEM!

    But they are very busy – long cumbersome detailed letters/emails/faxes are going to go into the “I’ll read it when I have time” pile.

    So let’s all take our scalpels and cut to the chase.
    We could use the scalpel Obama promised to use on government spending since he obviously isn’t using it!

    Please go to http://www.mikehuckabee.com to get all the senators and reps contact info.
    Then write to the REPUBLICANS only – telling them something like this (copy and paste onto a fax or letter if you wish):
    ————————————————————————————————-

    Dear Senator (or Dear Congressman):

    You need to stand up and fight for what is right.
    We hired you to speak for the people of your state. 65% of Americans question Obama’s eligibility to be president. What are you doing to inform yourself of the facts?

    1. The birth certificate on the factcheck site is a proven forgery AND is not sufficient to prove someone is a natural born citizen.

    2. The governor of Hawaii never said Obama is a natural born citizen, just that she has his birth certificate. However, Hawaiian law in 1961 allowed anyone born out of the country to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate. The ORIGINAL, LONG-FORM HOSPITAL birth certificate would say which country Obama was born in. He has spent over $800,000 to avoid showing it to any judge.

    There are now over 40 lawsuits regarding his status as ineligible to be president. You can stop this madness. There is much you do not know. Please visit http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com and request the information you so sorely lack regarding the facts and all that Mr. Obama is hiding from YOU.

    3. Mr. Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen, not an American citizen, and therefore, he simply is not a natural born citizen.

    I believe you have been sold a bill of goods, but there is a lot of solid information out there. All you have to do is STAND UP AND SAY that Mr. Obama’s signature on any bill means nothing because he is a USURPER. Then let him prove otherwise. HE CANNOT.

    You know that as soon as he signs the stimulus bill, all hell will break loose with more lawsuits across the country than you have hairs on your head. Mr. Obama & the Democrats want to fracture this country one way or another – either with the “stimulus” bill or with a civil war. How interesting that he chose Lincoln’s bible …
    YOU can stop this now before it gets too far.
    He campaigned on the promise to use a scalpel to cut all unnecessary spending and now he’s spending more than any other president in history.

    PLEASE DO SOMETHING – start by contacting http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com and finding out all the facts and then daring Obama to prove he is qualified to sit in that overheated oval office.

    — An American Citizen (natural born and I can prove it. Can he?)

  90. nawanawanga wrote:

    She said his mother never became an Indonesian citizen.
    She cut me off when I said that his sister has a Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii though she was born in Jakarta.
    I’m still shaking inside, she was WAR-LIKE.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    I suggest Zoloft. Tee hee, wish I still had some, this is getting very stressful. But I did go on http://www.indonesiamatters.com which I visit occasionally just to see if I can find out any info and guess what? Someone on there said Barry’s mother (all the Indonesians on that site refer to him as Barry Soetor, by the way) did NOT have Indonesian citizenship. She instead had something (forget the name of it) – a paper that gives you permission to live there if you will work there. It’s a certain type of visa.

  91. oops, typo, the bloggers on http://www.indonesiamatters.com ALL refer to him as Barry Soetoro.

  92. Am I the only one that wants to smack them? Keep up the fight my fellow Americans.

  93. CW Please keep Soetoro off of my TV… Thanks.

  94. Well, my dear fellow free speechers, http://www.indonesiamatters.com is now gone. Try it please, maybe it’s just my computer, but somehow I think maybe it’s because they’ve let out way too much info about Barry Soetoro.

    Does it work for you?

  95. truthbetold11

    Bob ,i agree with you. i just might run in my saturated democratic state. massachusetts, I have been to over 8,000 homes in central mass for my job, some friends call me the mayor, so i wouldnt be popular because i don’t tow the company line, i’m a truth seeker and would love to get some real truth out there.

  96. JBJD,
    Thanks for the comments. I live in PA and I’m not sure if our state has the vetting requirements you are talking about. If we do, I would be interested in investigating the possibility of legal action. The re occurring question, how do you establish standing?

    It appears like there are two different issues. First, are the constitutional eligibility requirements for POTUS. I firmly believe that BO is not eligible and should be removed from office. That would make my day, month, year and be the icing on the cake of my life. I could check out knowing that our constitution and country have been preserved.

    The other issue is the where we are going as a country. If BO is removed, we still have a socialist President in Biden, and a socialist congress. Everything I talked about in my previous post will still happen.

    If we don’t move and move now, we will lose this battle in 2010 and 2012.
    Eric

  97. http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:wX7XdN9Pe9wJ:www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/+http://www.indonesiamatters.com/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    you can copy the cache while it’s still there

    it says he was born in kenya
    “Barrak Hussein Obama II was born to a white American Ann Dunham and Kenyan Barrak Hussein Obama Snr, in Nyang’oma Kogelo now in Kenya.”

  98. They should throw out all of Obama’s cabinet and Biden with him. Pelosi should be impeached along with all the other criminals in the congress.

  99. Here’s 4 more pages of Barack Obama blog from Indonesia matters

    you can copy them from the cache before they totally disappear, I did
    put a http:// in front of each

    209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:exKXOfJp7dYJ:www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/+http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:TkQqV9mr-_sJ:www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-2/+http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-2/%23comments&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:7CGDRHVxrhIJ:www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-3/+http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-3/%23comments&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:-4Z3rU3RthcJ:www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-4/+http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1050/barack-obama/cp-4/%23comments&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

  100. Does anyone remember a posting that
    showed another alias for BO—name was
    Barakat Osama—-It was in regards to a
    property deal with Michelle Robinson’s
    brother?

  101. Now, here’s an example of chutzpah: The Republicans didn’t get their act together enough to challenge Obama for not being constitutionally qualified to be President as an Article 2 “natural born citizen” so Obama’s White House steals the census from the Commerce Department against the specific instructions of the constitution itself — “actual enumeration” under Article 1.

  102. Janet-
    I just tried “Indonesiamatters” and was successful the first click. There are lots of computer hiccups around. Yours might have been experiencing one!

  103. Kathie,

    Your comment on the 9th at 3:43 am is fair on its surface. You said: “Fawning and idolizing another candidate in Sarah Palin? Get a grip! Has Sarah made any attempt to blow the whistle about Soetoro? NO. She is not better than Hannity.”

    But beyond what appears to be sin of omission by Sarah concerning not speaking out against Oforeigner, where I believe she is simply keeping her mouth shut now to not prejudice her cause of 2012, she is the only horse in the Conservative stable capable of being in front coming around the clubhouse turn. All of the others are dead in the gate.

    Ron Paul was capable of laying it on the line and also obliterating his chances. And had he been picked by McCain to run on the ticket, Obi-wan would have won by a larger margin. The same for Huckabee and Romney. Only Palin could have done what happened… boost McCain enormously.

    Our fawning is justified. What Sarah has become is a center of influence that no one else has. Go over to Team Sarah and look at their enthusiasm. She’s something like Harley Davidson, where riders get that name tattooed on them, buy their bikes, buy their gear, live that style. Everyone else is a Yamaha or a Kow at best.

    But it’s in what we expect of her, of her powerful draw, that we can fawn over. She above all other candidates has two properties of value for us as a nation: She stands for an attitude that heads will roll when she gets to D.C. That’s her political charm – it’s what America needs more than anything from politics. And she can win.

  104. Maddie,

    Orly has been dealing with “Barakat Osama” in recent posts. Click over to her blog at “DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US” and do a search.

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