From Dr. Orly Taitz:
“NOTE from Defend Our Freedoms Foundation Staff.
The below report states: “if Mr Obama fights unsealing his documentation…there will be civil unrest unleashed on the streets”
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Memorandum: WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED
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March the 16th, 2009
Statement of Purpose:
The content of this White Paper is deliberately intended to stimulate thought and discussion. Informational analysis comprising global security, national security of the United States of America, socio-political-economic forces as a dimension to national security, culture, freedom in human rights, defense and the rule of law are considered within the framework of this treatise.
Overview:
Beginning as campaign rhetoric, the question of Barak Obama’s legal status as a citizen of the United States of America qualified to serve as President, is moving toward a crescendo that might be heard formally by the United States Supreme Court. Downplayed by many, including U.S. Senators on the Republican side and even Senators serving on the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee as late as Friday of last week, a significant meeting occurred last Thursday, March 12th in Idaho. The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court was speaking before a large audience (800 in attendance, including the President of the Idaho State Bar Association) on the character of Abraham Lincoln, when attorney Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, California came to the microphone and asked the Chief Justice if he would personally review a legal brief and a complaint signed by over 325,000 American citizens as to the Constitutionality of Barak Obama’s swearing-in as President. Chief Justice Roberts personally agreed to review the legal brief and the complaint saying such in front of the audience.
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Motions to be heard on this critical Constitutional matter have been dismissed already, or not even accepted by courts in many states – New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Washington, Texas, North Carolina to name a few. But the issue will not go away; it is morphing now to include active members of the Armed Forces serving in “Hot Zones” or theatres of combat. The legal motion handed
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to the Chief Justice warns: “If MR. OBAMA is not constitutionally eligible to serve as President of the United States, then no act that he takes is, arguably, valid, the laws that he signs would not be valid, the protective orders that he signs would be null and void, and every act that he takes would be subject to legal challenge, both in the Courts of the United States of America, and in International Courts, and that, therefore, it is important for the voters to know whether he, or any candidate for President in the future, is eligible to serve in that office.”
Just prior to this meeting, attorney Taitz sent Certified Correspondence on February 27th to the U.S. Attorney General, the Director of the FBI, Congressional and Senatorial Judiciary Committee, et.al. with the stated purpose “demand for investigation and immediate action in regards suspected crimes” identified as, but not limited to: impersonation of a military officer, libel, defamation of character, harassment, interference with judicial proceedings, breaking into the computer system of the Supreme Court of the United States, forgery, using cyberspace for voter fraud. Military officers from all branches of the U.S. Armed Forces have joined in this action as Plaintiffs. Among the petitioners are: Maj. Gen. Carroll Childers; Lt. Col. Dr. David Earl-Graef; police officer and Selected Reservist Navy Commander Clinton Grimes; Lt. Scott Easterling, U.S. Army now serving on active duty in Iraq; New Hampshire state Rep. Timothy Comerford; Tenn. State Rep. Frank Nicely and others.
One of the “and others” is Harry Riley, a veteran who spent a significant time serving in the Pentagon. This former officer said the issue is basically over whether Americans will allow “the trashing” of their Constitution. “Myself, along with hundreds of thousands of other warriors, have fought for the U.S. Constitution. The whole issue is one of constitutional crisis. How can an individual become the Commander-in-Chief, or the president of the U.S., with questions regarding his constitutional qualifications?”
The complaint filed with the U.S. Attorney General (now in the hands of the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court) requests “relate Quo Warranto on Barack Hussein Obama II to test his title to president before the Supreme Court.” This legal phrase essentially means an explanation is being demanded for what authority Obama is using to act as president. This is the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents. This legal right established in British common law 800 years ago and was recognized by the U.S. Founding Fathers to demand documentation that may prove – or disprove – Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.
The complaint further states: “As president-elect, Respondent Obama failed to submit prima facie evidence of his qualifications before January 20, 2009. Election officers failed to challenge, validate or evaluate his qualifications. Relators submit that as president elect, Respondent Obama failed to qualify per U.S. Constitution; articles II and I; amendment XX paragraph 3.”
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What follows is the Summary of the complaint filed by Orly Taitz, attorney in Mission Viejo, California. As you can imagine, the complaint is thorough and long. I have replicated sufficient
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passages so not to diminish the nature, spirit, scope or details of the complaint but conscious of time to read and length, I compiled the salient points in this complaint to save you from reading the 78 page document. I will further attest that Exhibits and articles of proof were also attached to the documents I reviewed. I will further attest the investigator working this case for attorney Taitz is a licensed Private Investigator in the State of California for the past twenty-five years, and prior to this, served twenty years as a Detective at New Scotland Yard. I will further attest that I have reviewed documents containing additional names not previously mentioned. Some of the names are active military and others are retired at Lt. Col. and above rank.
Should it be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid. If, however, this case continues and Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there are growing concerns of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a “flashpoint” that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security.
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Summary of the Complaint submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr.:
“Recently an active U.S. Army Officer, who is risking his life in defending our country in Iraq, joined my (attorney Taitz) legal action aimed at unsealing Barack Hussein Obama’s, aka Barry Soetoro’s, (Obama/Soetoro) legal status and eligibility/legitimacy for presidency of the U.S. The president needs to be a ‘natural born citizen – one who is born in the country to parents (plural, both) who are citizens of this country.
This definition was recently unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate in Senate resolution 511, presented by Senator Leahy in April 2008, as Senator McCain sought his legitimacy for the presidency to be verified, and Mr. McCain therefore presented his long version original birth certificate.
Mr. Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen; he was a citizen of Kenya here in the U.S. on a student visa, which by itself made Obama/Soetoro ineligible for presidency, regardless of whether he was born in this country or Kenya, or whether he later lost his U.S. citizenship while immigrating to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship (by being adopted and naturalized), and later reaffirming his Indonesian citizenship while traveling on a Indonesian passport as an adult, and also most likely obtaining taxpayer funded financial aid as a Foreign Exchange student from Indonesia (Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished). Additionally, Obama/Soetoro’s paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, and the Ambassador from Kenya,
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Peter Ogego, made statements that he was born in Kenya, and there is no record of him being born in any hospital in Hawaii. HI Statute #338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian Certificates of Live Birth (COLB), and those can be obtained based on a statement of one relative only.
Additionally, Forensic Document expert Sandra Line has issued an affidavit that Obama’s place of birth cannot be ascertained without reviewing the original birth certificate. Dr. Chiymoi Fukimo, director of Health Department for the State of Hawaii, issued a statement that Obama has a birth certificate on file, but intentionally refused to provide clarification, whether it is a birth certificate for a foreign born child of a Hawaiian resident, whether it was prepared based on hospital records or statement of one relative only, or whether it is an amended birth certificate, created upon Obama/Soetoro’s adoption by Lolo Soetoro, his Indonesian stepfather, and showing him a citizen of Indonesia.
There are forensic questions raised about the short version Certification of Life Birth posted by Obama/Soetoro on his web site; lacking corroborating evidence such as name of the hospital, name of the doctor, three signatures and a seal on the front of the document.
Similarly, Obama/Soetoro supporters used Cyber space previously, in order to misinform and defraud American citizens and commit voter fraud. On November 3rd, a day before the National elections, when numerous voters questioned Obama/Soetoro’s Natural Born status and his refusal to provide his long version birth certificate, an article appeared on the Internet stating that a Virginia Judge reviewed Obama/Soetoro’s original birth certificate and found it to be valid, Obama/Soetoro to be a Natural Born citizen, and all legal actions to be frivolous (Exhibit). This whole case was manufactured, and Cyber space was used, to defraud American citizens….
I am also requesting an investigation into the financial dealings of Barack and Michele Obama. Please see attached list of over 100 addresses for Barack Obama and a 100 business addresses for Michele Obama. These are addresses obtained from a private investigator and an intelligence service. Obama/Soetoro’s addresses are connected to numerous different social security numbers. None of the 130 positions listed for Michelle and Barry or Barack H. Obama were listed on their disclosed tax returns. There has to be a corresponding search for each and every employer that is listed. If those are salaried positions then, there is massive tax fraud. And if those were campaign contributions over the allowed limits then, there is massive campaign contributions fraud, especially in light of over $300 million in
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contributions that are unaccounted for. Which is it? What social security numbers were used?
As you stated in your speech on Martin Luther King Day, Americans should not be ‘cowards’, particularly when matters of race are concerned. I was not a coward and prepared this large dossier, so I hope you will not be a coward and instead order an expeditious completion of this investigation and its subsequent prosecution.”
Conclusion:
Accompanying this complaint is a petition calling for an appointment of a special prosecutor similar to the one appointed during Watergate. The fact that Obama has not ordered Hawaiian officials to release the document leaves doubt as to whether an authentic Hawaii birth certificate exists. Similar concerns exist in Mr. Obama’s refusal to release student records from Occidental College in the early 80’s where he may have been a student under the name of Barry Soetero, attending the college on aid for foreign students.
The action handed to the Chief Justice is on behalf 120 military officers, many of high rank, and 9 state representatives. Purportedly the room was stunned and silent as attorney Taitz and Chief Justice Roberts engaged in an extremely brief exchange regarding these charges which led to the oral promise made by the Chief Justice to review them.
( END OF REPORT )
Lyle J. Rapacki, Ph.D.
Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent
Information Warfare Analyst
FBI InfraGard – Arizona
0100 Hrs. m.s.t.”
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Citizen WElls 
I was just about to post the link! LOL!
(Thanks for the new thread btw)
Okay…I signed up at Whitehouse.gov but it will not let me see questions or post….must have my ip address on a “not allowed” list!
Sandy—-I went there too but you have to agree to terms…..only questions about the economy. It’s a joke….don’t waste your time!
I’m beginning to think that many people now in high office are the products of a lifetime of indoctrination by liberal educators, who were educated by radical left liberal educators, and have never read or studied about the Constitution. Case in point . . .
Did anyone notice the completely blank look of confusion on Geitner’s face when Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachman asked him to cite where in the Constitution he is given the power to do what he has done through Treasury? He honestly had no idea that the Constitution would be remotely relevant. He actually did a double-take, like where on Mars did this woman come from? He tried twice to give answers about the Congress and it’s laws. He never did get that the Constitution had anything to say.
I shouldn’t have been surprised, but I was. Deeply shocked, in fact. It filled me with a sense of doom.
I have a new theory.
Roberts knew about the ineligibility.
They just could not do anything because of the fear for riots, especially since the AAs see him more as a symbol than as a person and therefore never question him.
The oath went wrong on purpose.
He is just the front, Biden is legally president. Remember him all happy on inauguration day?
Then Obama did everything in his power to make people hate him.
Overspending, “I won”, ignoring bipartisanship, offending Brown and Sarkozy, presenting a WH that made Bush look good.
Mission accomplished.
Now they can finally do something about the eligibility issue.
Back in Novemebr there might have been riots, now people will be exhaling when he goes.
Orly is the perfect tool.
She’s a woman and she’s not born here.
Entwife—-It’s called lack of respect for the founders and the Constitution!! They….frankly…. don’t really give a DAMN what we or the Constitution says!
Difference between USSR Communist media and USA “mainstream media”
In Russia government make media say what they want – even if lie. In USA “Mainstream media” try make government what they want – even if lie…….eventually they become same thing?!
I Igor produce Obama birth certificate at http://www.igormarxo.org
Geithner open to Chinese monetary proposal:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Geithner_open_to_China_proposal.html?showall
AG and SoS were sworn in by Biden.
Who was in by Obama at all?
Jacqlyn Smith // March 25, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Entwife—-It’s called lack of respect for the founders and the Constitution!! They….frankly…. don’t really give a DAMN what we or the Constitution says!
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Including Bawny Fwank who cut her off so she couldn’t get an answer from the Tax Cheat re: Constitutional authority due to ‘time constraints’. Then the bag of air spent the next two minutes yammering about how they have to stick to the clock and keep things moving along.
When Gethner was sworn in by Biden, Obama stands by like an extra.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012602043.html
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PLEASE do not forget that this whole election was a fraud from the start! My take is that if soetoro is disqualified and proved to be a fraud, the whole Dem ticket is void. That means Biden too.
Now we have a dilemma. Just who is in charge?
Hillary bless her heart cannot be in charge because her appointment is void, as is the tax–cheat, etc. The votes were not for the Dem party and whoever they throw up there. The votes were for obama/biden.
In fact I believe we may have to have an interim POTUS installed by Congress while a special election for Summer is arranged.
Never mind the civil unrest when all this goes public. Can you image our foreign enemies rubbing their hands together and licking their chops in anticipation of attacks against the homeland of a weakened opponent.
soetoto had this planned from the start. He is spending and partying like it’s his last days here on earth. Like someone convicted of murder, sitting in the jail cell, and is eyeing the gas chamber down the hall.
God Help Us in our time of distress and need.
CW,
I guess i’m lost…lol…what’s the significance of this post on Orly?
Is this just a write up, or opinion from someone, or is it a step towards legal action?
I see some on other sites celebrating about this post, and i guess it’s just not registering to me what it actually means…lol
Someone help !! 🙂
i don’t get it either THE SHOUT, i mean THE SOUTH
ouch,!
Sandy and Jacqlyn,
Caution, please, regarding the whitehouse.gov web site.
I looked at it this morning and due to the fact that they wanted me to register, I backed off. By registering you’re revealing some personal info you may not want them to know. It’s bad enough the Obots attack anyone whose ideas differ from theirs but if your info is on this web site, it may subject you to harassment from the top down.
While I’d like His Highness to answer a few questions myself, that site isn’t the place to do it. I don’t want my info in the wrong hands.
Caution, please!
CitizenWells – I too am wondering what this post means.
http://www.infragard.net/faq.php
This might help answers questions on this post since Rapacki is with InfraGard .
Lame Cherry:
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/03/obamas-minders.html
excerpts:
“From Adolf Axelrod chomping on his gum like a hyena gnawing on the bone of a gazelle to the very big hipped Valerie Jarrett almost needing a two zip code time zone for how big her butt is, I watched a group of White House staff which looked more like a Kremlin group of minders.
For those who do not know the term, the communists always have minders or political officers scattered about every event to control it and keep tabs in spying on people in what is going on.”
“That is what loosing looks like children. Frank Rich, Tom Freedman, our European benefactors all coming out against mahdi Obama and Charlie Rose looking worried.
I will point out again in conclusion as Orly Taitz and others mill about Obama being a British subject. Tim Geithner for political purposes in inflating stock numbers for one Obama press conference illegally used US Treasury money to manipulate that market.
Those are federal felonies by Tim Geithner and Barack Obama punishable by around 100 years in prison. Those safety features are not to be used for political gain or to push Obamacare through a lap dog Congress of Democrats.
These are criminal acts which can not be denied and Geithner and Obama should both be arrested and charged as they just cost the United States citizenry again 1 trillion dollars for this stunt which money is now flowing back into Obama benefactors in a Ponzie Scheme.”
I just received the following e-mail from Pamela….please help everyone….Everybody send this out….this is an emergency…..Steve Pidgeon may be under attack by Homeland Security!!! Jackie:)
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From: PAMELA BARNETT [mailto:pb_realestate@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:55 AM
To: Jackie Smith
Subject: Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security
—– Forwarded Message —-
From: Carmen Reynolds
To: Carmen Reynolds
Cc: gewinners@cox.net; ‘carolbutler1951@verizon.net’; ‘bobgen3@optimu.net’; ‘edsaggese@mindspring.com’; ‘vquintana719@yahoo.com’; ‘fairchokl@bellsouth.net’; ‘atrueott@msn.com’; David Jeffers ; Alexander Jones ; Dave Supervisor ; Eileen Carman ; Chuck Gould ; Mr Wells ; Vivian Gonzalez ; atrueott@msn.com; katwoman0852@yahoo.com; sheriffmack@hotmail.com; Jack@cybrquest.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:26:55 AM
Subject: Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security
I just received this directly from Constitutional Attorney Steven Pidgeon who was working on cases to determine the natural born citizen status of Obama. Prayers are in order for his Safety.
If anyone has contacts, pls notify them.
Carmen
From: attorney@stephenpidgeon.com [mailto:attorney@stephenpidgeon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:00 PM
To: Carmen Reynolds
Cc: gewinners@cox.net; ‘David Jeffers’; ‘Alexander Jones’; ‘Dave Supervisor’; ‘Eileen Carman’; ‘Chuck Gould’; ‘Mr Wells’; ‘Vivian Gonzalez’; atrueott@msn.com; katwoman0852@yahoo.com
Subject: Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security
I am writing this now as three black suburbans with HS personnel in camo are moving in to my neighborhood. I suspect arrest here shortly. In the event that you do not hear from me by tomorrow morning, please continue to contact by me email, as we will try to monitor. If not, contact Cesar Velasquez in Bellevue, WA (a Washington lawyer) for status.
Stephen Pidgeon
SueK // March 25, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Sandy and Jacqlyn,
Caution, please, regarding the whitehouse.gov web site.
I looked at it this morning and due to the fact that they wanted me to register, I backed off. By registering you’re revealing some personal info you may not want them to know. It’s bad enough the Obots attack anyone whose ideas differ from theirs but if your info is on this web site, it may subject you to harassment from the top down.
While I’d like His Highness to answer a few questions myself, that site isn’t the place to do it. I don’t want my info in the wrong hands.
Caution, please!
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I’m with you SueK!
BerlinBerlin // March 25, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I have a new theory.
Roberts knew about the ineligibility.
They just could not do anything because of the fear for riots, especially since the AAs see him more as a symbol than as a person and therefore never question him.
The oath went wrong on purpose.
He is just the front, Biden is legally president. Remember him all happy on inauguration day?
Then Obama did everything in his power to make people hate him.
Overspending, “I won”, ignoring bipartisanship, offending Brown and Sarkozy, presenting a WH that made Bush look good.
Mission accomplished.
Now they can finally do something about the eligibility issue.
Back in Novemebr there might have been riots, now people will be exhaling when he goes.
Orly is the perfect tool.
She’s a woman and she’s not born here.
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I couldn’t have said it better myself!
To answer some of the questions, this is a crisis assessment meant for the review of the FBI and Infragard members.
Infragard is a parter of the FBI, and the author is a consultant specializing in Homeland Security training to prepare for natural crises.
What he’s saying in this brief is the ineligibility issue is brewing and civil unrest can occur especially with the poor economy.
Maybe Lame Cherry can give this info to DR TAITZ
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
She will do something with it
CW,
As I pointed out in my blog today, Hawaii does not accept a COLB form for proof of being a native of Hawaii! Also it occurred to me that someone who issued a COLB would not also have a COB. You either have one or the other.
http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/03/birth-certificate-issue-and-why-it.html
Do your own search for information on Lyle J. Rapacki, Ph.D. Here is the first hit I came up with.
http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=cabc&c=whs&id=4800
Greg Goss,
Ain’t that a pickle. Can we get confirmation from the Health Department? If so, Soetoro’s in a lot of trouble and so is anyone else who has “verified” the COB without saying anything.
JeffM,
There is another scenario, actually many but. The COLB Obama posted is in fact a forgery and he has a COB on file but probably has something on it that he deems not suitable for public view. But I am betting there is nothing to be seen, period.
Greg Goss,
This is a good point!
He either has a COLB or a COB, but would not have both.
If he has a COB, then why in the hell would he need a COLB?
Greg Goss,
This is a very good point!
He either has a COLB or a COB, but he can’t have both.
If he has an actual COB, then there is no reason in hell for him to have a COLB!
Phil at TRSOL has reported that attorney Stephen Pidgeon may be subject to arrest:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=4991
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jbjd // March 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I have googled his name too and have been on this site.
It is a pagan site, think Lyle J. Rapacki wrote a book on Satanism.
(Lyle J. Rapacki, Satanism: the Not so New Problem. USA: Crossroads Ministries, 1990)
What do You expect them to write?
It is pretty much the same character assasination we deal with by he Obots.
It is still the internet, jbjd.
Here is a HI Certificate of Live Birth. (These words form the actual title of the official HI document.)
Could someone please explain this to me. Is Obama caught? Is the FBI involved?
The Pressure Is Bubbling
What irritates me most is the conspiracy of silence and avoidance by MSM, Congress, Senate, and the 9 dishonorable Supremes. The more they are asked, the deeper their silence. Do these numbskulls think they are fooling us? Are they so jaded they think, the public can not see through them as clearly as scotch tape? They seem to be playing a waiting game of who can hold out the longest. Do they think if they remain silent long enough people will eventually grown tired and stop asking for Obama’s credentials? Do they think if people stop asking it will absolve them of their guilt? They will never have to be accountable for breach of duty?
Their persistent silence and avoidance is having just the opposite effect upon me. Prior to this issue, I never thought about the possibility of the numerous breaches of duty and suspicious involvements our elected officials might be or have been willing to participate. Their flagrant behavior in their loud and arrogant refusal to challenge Obama’s proof of eligibility has led me to become suspicious and investigative in their integrity of their entire careers. If they have seem to have no sense of accountability or responsibility in this single most important issue to the national security of American and the greatest Constitutional crisis in American history, than I must ask in what other ways have these elected officials betrayed their trust of the American voter?
The pressure in America regarding this single issue is building like the boiling lava within a soon to explode volcano. One way or another; sooner or later Obama will have to face America and reveal all the documents he has so lavishly spent trying to avoid to do so. Regardless of what they reveal, there will be another and greater demand of accountability to the American people–the entire government that knowing and willingly aided and abetted Obama in hiding his records. If –as most Americans have come to suspect–it they prove Obama is not even an American citizen let alone a natural born citizen–then the guilt of all who so actively participated in the many ways they did will be all the more guilty and will be all the greater accountable and demand for them–at best– to at resign forever from their careers and –at worst–spend the rest of their lives behind bars–will be heard throughout the entire universe.
Strength in numbers and the belief they cannot be replaced will be no safeguard for these vile conspirators. They know they are guilty the first time they failed to do their duty to challenge Obama’s credentials and thus betray their own country. Not one–I repeat, not one Senator, Congress person, or judge who dismissed the law suits asking the courts to demand Obama’s records deserve to remain in his seat. Each and every one are guilty of many crimes among which are treason. Among these traitors and treasoners are msm journalists who chose to insult America with bashing Sarah Palin instead of reporting the challenge of Obama’s eligibility. What a difference in America it would have made if only–if only msm had reported the facts prior to the election. They, too, should serve time in jail.
Have you ever wondered how these jaded servants of the public sleep? How do they face themselves in the mirror every day before they go to work–spending another day practicing betrayal of America and breach of their fiduciary duties? They have got to feel the growing public pressure life and bubbling volcano. Sooner or later one of these silent thugs is going to realize this issue is going to explode. Which side of the fence does he/she wants to find himself? If I were one of the silence is golden gang in office today, I would be very concerned about the future of my career. The longer they remain silent the worse it is going to become for them.
Thanks AP
AP,
I’ve said from the beginning that the oath went wrong on purpose. The ‘do-over’ was suspect, as well. Who were the members of the ‘press’ who covered it? Why no Bible the second time around, as is the tradition? It’s my feeling that Soetoro’s hand burned a hole in that Bible the day before.
And look at what we got.
Certificate of Live Birth
Ceritification of Live Birth
Andy Martin Nat Conf April 3-4
http://www.nationalconferenceonobama.blogspot.com
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/25/global-recession-tests-obamas-popularity-world-leaders/
Is anybody really surprised?
venice,
The current usurping gang can be related to the Titanic.
Full speed ahead. The captain is gone. No binoculars in the crow’s nest. Too small a rudder. Not enough lifeboats.
And the iceberg is rapidly approaching…
More to Obama than the sealed records
http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com
Well the Brits, if nothing else know a loser when they seen one. In fact they perfected the art.
JeffM.
I received the original email notification from Pidgeon.
I have been awaiting a followup status.
jbjd’s and the South’s hyperlinks are VERY IMPORTANT —
1. They show the actual hospital.
2. They show “Caucasian” as the standard designation for “White.” Therefore, we could expect to find “Negro” as the then standard designation for Barack H. Obama, Sr. , on a trued vault copy, and NOT the designation “African,” per the Fact-checker version.
3. Remember the published notice in Honolulu Advertizer? It says “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama:” at that moment, Obama, Sr. was a “bigamist,” because he already had a wife and two children in Kenya.
4. According to Obama, Sr.’s 1st wife, she and Ann Dunham were “life-long friends.” When did they ever meet, unless Ann Dunham traveled to Kenya? And, when did she do that?
Does anyone know what’s going on with the SC? They were supposed to answer by 1 PM. So far there is nothing on DOFF yet. This has been a very disturbing and troubling day. Please CW if you can, please please keep us posted regarding Steve Pidgeon. Thank you!!!
http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=11125
Very interesting found on another site!Talks about Obama ties with alot of people!Please take the time to listen.This is someone from New Zealand talking on this.PLEASE KEEP PRAYING,GOD WILL ANSWER!!!!HE IS ON OUR SIDE!!!!!
Speaking of the Brits, listen to this: Qualify to take NP’s job
May God be with Mr. Pidgeon, the patriot.
How does that old poem go, that referred to WWII Germany? Something like this, paraphrasing:
— They came for my neighbor, and I did not speak for him.
— they came for my family, and I did not speak for them.
— And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak for me.
Who will be next? You? Me? They are watching us all now, Evil knows no boundaries.
Goodbye freedom, good bye liberty, good bye my beloved United States of America.
I think Stephen Pidgeon was moving ahead with the National Grand Jury. He called it “the court of last resort” in his post March 13, 2009.
http://decalogosintl.org/?p=304?96e9cb80
Lame Cherry Nailed It
When is someone of authority going to stand up, and address the birth status, and loyalties of this jack-ass?
Are they going to wait until he totally destroys the country, and we are at war with ourselves, before someone stands up and says….Hummmmmmmm, i wonder if he really is a Kenyan at heart? I wonder if he really was born in Kenya!?!
Because every single thing he has done since he took office is 100% “ANTI-AMERICAN” !!!
Glenn Beck, if you read this blog, you better start addressing this issue on your TV spot at FOX!
Beck said his opening tonight on TV would be on obama. Also would discuss Sarah Palin. Did anyone see what he had to say about obama?
Right, Lame Cherry has it right on the ecomony. Action is needed now to say country!!!
Dont think Lame Cherry mind if cut and paste and sent to our Senators and Representatives, do you?
Yes South,
Lame Cherry has nailed it (again) and for the last year America has been asleep at the wheel.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/
Please read this site,tells you alot!
Very important!
Steve Pidgeon is OK and is safe!
Will be on tonight:
Patriot Heart 8pm:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/PatriotsHeartNetwork/PatriotsHeartNetwork
and Plains Radio 10 pm
http://www.plainsradio.com/
Wed., Mar. 25, 2009 4:44 PM link SAVE GOOD OLD AMERICA . | ,
Wendy P. | , 2 things will happen!! 1.OBAMA WILL STEP DOWN, or BILDERBERG will create a FAKE assassination of OBAMA because they want to get rid of him simply because OBAMA failed with their PLAN and because of his fake ID LOTS about the BILDERBERG and THE AL-QUEDA is being exposed!! And they don’t like the names of BILDERBERG being exposed !! THEIR WHOLE PLAN IS FAILING!!
THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO POST THEIR NAME EVERYWHERE,
THEY HAVE MADE OBAMA THE PRESIDENT!! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDE WHO IS GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT!!
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR DESTROYING AMERICA and MANY COUNTRIES!! THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY LOST LIVES and DISSASTERS!!
Bilderbergers are
1. Kathleen Sebelius
Kansas governor and nominee for the the Health and Human Services secretary post
2. Richard Holbrooke
Special envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan
3. Dennis Ross
Special adviser to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on the Gulf region and Southwest Asia
4 Timothy Geithner
Treasury secretary
5 Lawrence Summers
National Economic Council director
6 Paul Volcker
Chairman of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board
Click through to see other national and international figures who belong to the Bilderberg club.
7 Margaret Thatcher
Former prime minister of Britain
8 Conrad Black
Former media mogul
9 Bill Clinton
Former U.S. president
10 Tony Blair
Former prime minister of Britain
11 Condoleezza Rice
Former U.S. secretary of state
12 Donald Rumsfeld
Former U.S. secretary of defense
13 Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
14 Spanish King Juan Carlos (Source: Politico.com)
Wendy P. | ,
SAVE GOOD OLD AMERICA
My God always deliver and always honor my prayers.
I prayed my Protection Prayer and released it to God all of a sudden. I felt a calmness and peace come over me.
This is what I found over on the petition site!This is very scaring!!!!WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?????????IS THIS TRUE?????????
CHANGING PARTIES
I was traveling down the road the other day south of Benton, Mississippi
when a tire blew out. Checking my spare, I found that it
too was flat. My only option was to flag down a passing
motorist and get a ride to the next town.
The first vehicle to stop was an old man in a van. He
yelled out the window, “Need a lift?”
“Yes, I sure do,” I replied.
“You a Republican or Democrat,” asked the old
man.
“Republican,” I replied.
“Well, you can just go to Hell,” yelled the old
man as he sped off.
Another guy stopped, rolled down the window, and asked me
the same question.
Again, I gave the same answer, “Republican.”
The driver gave me the finger and drove off.
I thought it over and decided that maybe I should change my
strategy, since this area seemed to be overly political and
there appeared to be few Republicans.
The next car to stop was a red convertible driven by a
beautiful blonde.
She smiled seductively and asked if I was a Republican or
Democrat.
“Democrat!”, I shouted.
“Hop in!” replied the blonde.
Driving down the road, I couldn’t help but stare at the
gorgeous woman in the seat next to me, the wind blowing
through her hair, perfect breasts, and a short skirt that
continued to ride higher and higher up her thighs.
Finally, I yelled, “Please stop the car.”
She immediately slammed on the brakes and as soon as the
car stopped, I jumped out.
“What’s the matter?”, she asked.
“I can’t take it anymore,” I replied.
“I’ve only been a Democrat for five minutes and
already I want to screw somebody.”
sandy // March 25, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Okay…I signed up at Whitehouse.gov but it will not let me see questions or post….must have my ip address on a “not allowed” list!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Same for me Sandy..I’m perturbed!!
I am not able to get on the InvestigatingObama but this is from RestoretheConstitutional Republic regarding Stephen Pidgeon:
Update from Investigating Obama Blog
Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Obama Eligibility Challenger, “Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security,” Says the Email — UPDATING
Update: 3/25, 4:29pm CT – Email from Stephen Pidgeon’s 2nd email address:
Yes, this is true. We are currently being tailed by Snohomish County Sheriffs and the Everett Police Dept. They are also tracking my associates.
Question had been emailed to Pidgeon:
Stephen, is the report of the black suv from HS and the men in camo true, then?
An email from your other account was sent to Carmen, who sent it out to others including me.
Please reply as soon as convenient, thanks. Blessings.
Arlen
PS: Carmen also relates that another citizen’s grand jury colleague has seen the same thing in his neighborhood and the son of another was arrested peculiarly, last night or this morning. — ??
____________I.O.____________
Update: 3/25, 4:20pm CT – At 3:50pm, I received an email from another address used by Stephen Pidgeon. In this message, also apparently from Mr. Pidgeon, with a valid looking signature footer, merely states, “I have lost my primary email account for purposes of making contact. I am checking on the changeup now.”
I also spoke with Carmen, who states that another associate of Pidgeon in his soon to be engaged, Citizen’s Grand Jury investigation of Barack Obama and his eligibility as Commander in Chief has also seen black SUV(s) very recently, in his neighborhood. Also, the son of another on this project was arrested this morning or last night, for something to do with his license plate (out of state). He was arrested after he would not answer questions, this after his Miranda rights were apparently read, and was assigned a $50,000 bail.
____________I.O.____________
Orignal post: 3/25, 1:45pm CT – Just received this in my in-box; email addresses verified. I.O. reports; we will all decide later, after more is known. In any case, we should pray for all those whose necks are outstretched. And, as in the “Spartacus” effect, we should all be standing up, craning our necks in due circumspection, and loudly communicating reality, vs. the insurgency’s lies and cover-ups.
Stephen Pidgeon in imminent danger of arrest by Homeland Security
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:26 PM
From: “Carmen”
To: “‘Carmen'”
Cc: [numerous recipients]
I just received this directly from Constitutional Attorney Steven Pidgeon who was working on cases to determine the natural born citizen status of Obama. Prayers are in order for his Safety.
If anyone has contacts, pls notify them.
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3327.msg15395;topicseen#new
Ah!
All those critical articles lately.
Hmm, remember the days of feelin’ like You want to vomit all day because nobody seemed to have any common sense left.
Messiah?
Great Speech?
What?
Why does that Mojo not work on me? Am I of supreme intelligence or intuition?
No.
Everybody else went stupid.
Anyway,
another great article:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/NoemieEmery/Death-of-the-Obama-dream-41801612.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92836
This is about our dollar!!!
Steve is heading the National Grand Jury. BTW where were the Sheriff. I think the Sheriff Dept would be the first agency I would contact. Sure Homeland Security had no reason to be there but to harass ie., license plate for a federal agency, PLEASE!!
Posted by Dr. Orly Taitz at 3/25/2009 5:58 PM
Redress of grievances-Petition for indictment of Timothy Geitner
We will be running petitions and giving you a voice. We will tally the numbers.
Do you think Timothy Geitner should be indicted? Why yes and why not?
Should Obama be indicted for massive fraud of American people and treason?
Should the judges be indicted for not upholding constitution and not hearing the cases of Obama’s lack of eligibility?
Should clerk Danny Bickel be indicted for interfering with the justice system?
Should attorney general Eric Holder be indicted for not investigating all of Obama’s illegal acts?
Should the Congressmen and Senators be indicted for not holding judicial committee hearings on BO’s illegitimacy for presidency?
PETITION TO BLOCK CONGRESSIONAL ATTACKS ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PRESS
To: U.S. Congress, President of the United States, Supreme Court of the United States
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87882
sign today and pass on, please
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92836
Please read and you’ll understand!
http://lasttrumpetnewsletter.org/2009/04_09.html
Sorry read this site and you’ll understand!
John 3:16
Has anyone heard any more about Stephen Pidgeon yet?
Please keep us updated!
thanks
http://lasttrumpetnewsletter.org/2009/04_09.html
Sorry read this site and you’ll understand!
John 3:16
I firmly disagree, and here is why. There are many trumpets though this world-age and we’re not in the last one yet. Do you even understand WHEN and why a trumpet sounds anyway? Do you think that it has to do with the OT Day of Trumpets?
Even as bad it may seem right now at this time, we have not gone through tribulation, and I promise you this, you will not want to go through it. I won’t because of my age anyway, but my granddaughter and my other grandchild not here yet may have to go through it. There are the 7 years of insanity because the anti-messiah is ruling (the main one; not BO), and then the last 3 1/2 years of that 7-year time frame are the worst tribulation that mankind has ever known. It’s never been known before even as bad as it’s been at times throughout the whole world. Imagine that, my friend. No food, no water, just plagues, the sword, and people eating each other for lack of food, OR eating their own arm for lack of food. Do you want to bring this on quickly? Yahweh personally warns for those who want to bring this time on quickly. None of us here today in this day and time can even imagine it, period! It’s even described as no time like it that no one else in the whole world has even known. And it’s that bad. Imagine the worst famine in the whole world, which there has been famine and extreme drought, then imagine it worse than that. Can you see that????? We have things teaching us all the time, yet we can’t see it.
Those who will be spared — SOMEWHAT — will be those who are warned to leave this country when the time is right and really leave and trust in Yahweh. Like I said, I’m old and probably won’t see this. The fact of who we have in the office of the U.S. now might make our curse worse. I hope not.
When is someone of authority going to stand up, and address the birth status, and loyalties of this jack-ass?
Are they going to wait until he totally destroys the country, and we are at war with ourselves, before someone stands up and says….Hummmmmmmm, i wonder if he really is a Kenyan at heart? I wonder if he really was born in Kenya!?!
Because every single thing he has done since he took office is 100% “ANTI-AMERICAN” !!!
Get HIM out NOW…he is ruining our country!
From: http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/03/25/stephen-pidgeon-in-imminent-danger-of-arrest-by-homeland-security/
Update: I have received further information from a close contact with Mr. Pidgeon with whom I’ve corresponded over the last several months on other issues. The following is what this individual had to say about today’s (3/25) activities:
He did not get arrested – I had lunch with him to find out what the hell is/was up. Let’s just say, there is a very, very high level of in your face police activity around him, and his office building…
Before I met with Stephen for lunch, I drove out to see what was up in Snohomish, and walked up to the police building and they had a sign on the door stating that they have moved. I did see the black SUVs – but no camo clad dudes. I left – drove about a block and one of the black SUV’s started to pull out. I found myself behind a cop car, he turned off, and another one pulled in behind me and followed me to the town cut off – once I crossed the bridge, and got into Everett, a city cop pulled in behind me, and followed me to Stephens office, and pulled me over in front of his building – said I had a light out (I did) he took my license and ran it – the stop was less than a minute.
We walked over to a subway to grab a quick bite – we were tailed on each block by cops. While we were eating, a very big dude came in – I got in line behind him and could see that he had a gun in his back belt… he left, and cops kept driving back and forth in front of the subway- then a security dude came up to the window, and just stood and watch us – we finished lunch, and once again, cops on every corner – back at his building, another dude with dark glasses – I said hello, and he just nodded and smiled….
Is he just being paranoid – No, I have known him for almost 5 years now – and he is just not the type. Look, ever since I’ve been shooting off my mouth about family rights, commies suck, and this that and everything else, I’ve had people park in front of my house taking pics of me getting into my car, and taking pics of me driving my truck – It’s just another intimidation tactic that people use to stifle your Rights to speak freely…
If the pinheads really wanted to find out about me, they could just look at the 3 successful FBI background checks, or the successful ATF check… lol.
Let’s all say it unison shall we “Socialism Sucks”
Developing…
Sue, JJ and Jaqlyn,
I did not give them my true email….just one I created with a plan to delete it soon. However, I believe they may already have certain IP addresses that they have blocked. Or, maybe they have entire heavily conservative zip codes blocked!
I am sure with all of the places I have blogged, chatted and posted, my ip address is in a data base of thugs somewhere! Time to change it!
Kittykat I do understand what you are stating I thought it was a interesting and I wanted to share if thats okay?But I do know this,only the father knows when he will return.I just wanted to share because I get alot of interesting articles from there.It helps and I definitely don’t want to scare anyone at all but all I know is that when God returns its okay because it will be a awesome day for all believers.I just thought that it was interesting about how with everything going on it fits.Yes I do understand,and I just wanted to share thats all.If I offended anyone I’m sorry but,if I brought anyone or helped anyone in anyway about how great our Father is and that his love is neverending,Great!I know that article probably didn’t come out that way but maybe it helped someone open there heart and or open their Bible.I pray eveyday about the situation that we are all in,I also pray for everyone here and our nation.God will keep us safe and our children.Gods hand is over all these good people doing this,we may all not believe the same in everything but we all someway,somehow return to God and pray to him to give us strength during these times.We all need to come together and stand strong!I do understand about the trumpets and still learning and studying about them.Everyday I learn something new,but I do know this,that maybe if I helped someone to start searching about our Father in heaven and how great his love is and that they not just read about Revelation that they would read what else is in there in his word.
God Bless you all and he will protect us!
News item —
I wish him a speedy recovery — but notice the details.
Official: Obama’s half-brother falls ill in Kenya
2 hours ago
KISUMU, Kenya (AP) — A Kenyan health official says President Barack Obama’s older half-brother has been hospitalized with stomach pains and is being tested for cholera.
Notice the detail that it says “older half-brother.”
You see, Barack Obama, Sr. was already married and had a family when he married Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
Therefore, he was a BIGAMIST in Honolulu, and he ought to have been deported as an ‘immoral alien.’ He wasn’t, so the coverup began in the early 1960s.
The whole Dunham family was in on it — this is why they never spoke with the pres, and Obama has all of his records sealed.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
RBO agrees that Hannen’s comments should be directed to the Obama administration.
dear mr ph D
so this , that or the other thing is going to happen if OBAMA doesn’t unseal his documents?
it’s been nearly 9 months since the first lawsuit
we are still waiting for this that or the other thing to happen.
looks like nothing is going to happen, mr phd
hey check this out
flood this site with questions on where is your real birth certificate? ANd why are you hiding it??
http://www.whitehouse.gov/openforquestions/
notice, not one, not a single one of OBAMA’S defenses has been “invasion of privacy”, isn’t that interesting in of of itself?
GBAmerica: I do understand what you are stating I thought it was a interesting and I wanted to share if thats okay?But I do know this,only the father knows when he will return.
I don’t mean to sound like I’m jumping on you, GB. So I’m sorry if I sounded that way. It’s just that people think that it’s going to be a walk in the park. Not so!
It’s true that we can’t know the day nor the hour when Yahushua will return. Only our heavenly father knows that. However, we are to watch. Also, all the feast days reveal Yahweh’s plan of salvation. This is why he has them to teach us and they are prophetic. This is also why he has the sabbath years and Jubilees, which is to give a count. Can we find out when there was a Jubilee? Yes, we can actually find and prove several. Download this book for free “The Sabbath and Jubilee Cycle,” which is at yahweh.org .
On the 27th of March at sundown starts the new year and is also a Sabbath year.
So even though we have these times to count with, the days will still be shortened.
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I’ve never been a fan our our British Monarchy but I’m beginning to be glad we have a Queen instead of a President.
The point Obama’s defenders miss when they say things like “The President has been vetted by the electorate” or “Did George Bush or Abraham Lincoln have to produce proof of suitable citizenship?” is that (a) voting for someone is a lot different to scrutinizing their credentials and (b) Bill Clinton, Bush 1 & 2, Reagan, even Jimmy Carter and then all the way back to the early days had history, they were known, there was history.
If someone had asked “Is Mr Lincoln a natural born American, very likely people would have stod up and said “The midwife who delivered him was a friend of my mother,” or “The same Pastor baptized both him and me.”
Obama does not seem to have any history like that so the absence of documents is more significant.
No doubt the usual couple of kool aid drinkers will follow the link to my site and tell me what an evil person I am for doubting the chosen one. Personally I don’t give a damn about Sidi Obama, He is not my leader even though he and his worshippers think he is President of The Whole Universe and Everything Else Besides. It is the sinister, cultish behaviour of his followers that worries me. What’s the agenda? one must ask.
Federal criminal complaint contends Obama ineligible
Ex-officer alleges prez used ‘contrivance, concealment, dissembling and deceit’
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Posted: March 25, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
An ex-military officer has raised the stakes in the ongoing dispute over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, filing a criminal complaint against the “imposter” with the U.S. attorney’s office for the Eastern District of Tennessee.
Retired U.S. Navy officer Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III, who has run a campaign for two decades to uncover and try to correct what he believes are criminal activities within the military, accused the president of “treason.”
In his complaint addressed to Obama via U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee, Fitzpatrick wrote: “I have observed and extensively recorded invidious attacks by military-political aristocrats against the Constitution for twenty years.
(Story continues below)
“Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment.”
He cited the deployment of “U.S. Army active duty combat troops into the small civilian community of Samson, Ala.,” and said, “We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.
“I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy,” he wrote.
The 1975 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis told WND that a short time after his complaint was filed he was visited by two U.S. Secret Service agents, but they left after telling him they perceived no threat to the president in the document.
Where’s the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the “natural-born American” clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join some 350,000 others and sign up now!
Officials with the Knoxville office of the Secret Service told WND the only person who could release information to the media was on vacation and they would not comment on the issue.
Likewise, officials with the U.S. attorney’s office declined to respond to a WND request for a comment.
Fitzpatrick told WND the U.S. Justice Department needs to look into the issue.
WND reported this week that officials at the Justice Department, along with those at the Supreme Court, confirmed that documentation in a case challenging Obama’s eligibility had arrived and was scheduled for an evaluation.
That case is being handled by California attorney Orly Taitz, who is working through her Defend Our Freedoms Foundation to handle several cases raising questions over Obama’s qualification to be president under the Constitution’s demand that the office be occupied only by a “natural born” citizen.
Taitz was informed by Karen Thornton of the Department of Justice that all of the case documents and filings have arrived and have been forwarded to the Office of Solicitor General Elena Kagan, including three dossiers.
Fitzpatrick said he has devoted his career fulltime to investigating issues in military justice and defending wrongly accused soldiers, sailors and Marines. His own career was torpedoed by a court-martial more than 20 years ago over his authorization of the use of a ship’s fund to send an officer to the funeral for his brother, who had been killed by terrorists.
Fitzpatrick’s situation has been described not only on his own website but forum pages on other websites that deal with military issues.
He alleges his case was fabricated and even his signature was forged by officials connected to his case. He points to the fact that he ultimately retired and was awarded a military pension as support for his allegations.
But he says the new complaint against Obama should define the issue of the president’s eligibility.
“They either have to come and get me or get Mr. Obama’s eligibility proved. He has an officer in his military saying he is guilty of trespass on the Constitution,” Fitzpatrick told WND.
“They can recall me against my will to active duty,” he said. “I would refuse. It’s an illegal order by a man who is not by commander in chief.”
WND has reported on dozens of civil case legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
Some of the legal challenges question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
Further, others question his citizenship by virtue of his attendance in Indonesian schools during his childhood and question on what passport did he travel to Pakistan three decades ago.
Adding fuel to the fire is Obama’s persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers. While his supporters cite an online version of a “Certification of Live Birth” from Hawaii, critics point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.
Hawaiian officials have confirmed they have a birth certificate on file for Obama, but it cannot be released without his permission, and they have not revealed the information it contains.
John Eidsmoe, an expert on the U.S. Constitution working with the Foundation on Moral Law, has told WND a demand for verification of Obama’s eligibility appears to be legitimate.
Eidsmoe said it’s clear that Obama has something in the documentation of his history, including his birth certificate, college records and other documents that “he does not want the public to know.”
Officials for the Obama campaign repeatedly have refused to comment on the questions, relenting only once to call the concerns “garbage.”
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time to put up or shut BS,
and time for AMericans to throw out the garbage
another 600,000 in jobless claims, three months of obama have jobless and unemployed at 1.5 million. which means he is at a NEGATIVE in creating or saving 2 million jobs, he must now creat or save 2 million PLUS the 1.5 million he lost. Spin that BS mr BO !
I am wondering how many of you got a good look at the 1963 Hawaiian colb that was published on Snarky Bytes web site. If you haven’t then I strongly urge you to go there and have a good look at the REAL McCoy. Then compare it with the COLB that DNC published online. If you don’t see anything different between the two documents you are either BLIND OR a LEFT WING DEMOCRAT.
Instead of calling the White House(which seems to be a waste of time), IMHO we should call(I tried e-mailing, but I had to be a constituent) all Senators & Congressman to stand up on the issue of Obama not being a Natural Born Citizen. http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm These people need to know that we are outraged that the Constitution is being abandoned.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
Ian.
Thanks for your comments.
We do appreciate the input and concern from Great Britain.
Just received this email:
This is going out to 450 emails, so if you can pass it on that would be wonderful….
Action needed…call and/or write your choice.
I called the Solicitor General’s number listed below and learned this is what you do….. ask for the comment line. I also wrote my email. If you choose to assist Orly you want to click on “contact us” on the bottom of the page to go to the email. Even though, some of us work so hard and get the back hand when we do, it still is a worthy cause to pursue, so if you are feeling like your efforts go unappreciated, remember there are those like me, who would like to say a big thank you for taking the time to try. I always appreciate the emails back saying “done”…you are a true warrior for your efforts.
~ forward with fire across the Nation to every citizen ~
Received from Dr. Orly Taitz
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. just received a phone call from Karen Thornton at the Department of Justice. She stated that all of Orly’s documents and filings have been forwarded to the Office of Solicitor General, Elena Kagan. That includes all three Dossiers, the Quo Warranto Easterling v. Obama aka Soetoro. Please show your support that we want these matters and investigations looked into immediately, 202-514-2203.
I have some additional information. The Office of the Solicitor General is at:
Please contact him directly through the ‘contact us’ link. Let him see tons of emails by morning.
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/
Coincidently, after Dr. Taitz called me with that update, she received another call from Officer Giaccino at the Supreme Court. Officer Giaccino stated both pleadings have been received and being analyzed now. Also, Justice Roberts must be back because the Officer also stated that all the documents that were given to Chief Justice Roberts at Idaho University are now at the Supreme Court and are also being analyzed. We will be notified tomorrow after 1:00pm EST as to whether they will be on the docket at the Supreme Court.
ANY NEWS ON DR. ORLY TAITZ’S MEETING WITH SENATOR KYL TODAY OR YESTERDAY?
SCROLL DOWN AND PLAY THE 2 VIDEOS ON DR. ORLY. GOD BLESS HER AND PROTECT HER HEROIC CRUSADE.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pzydj617-o0/STbVf4pp5PI/AAAAAAAAARE/06L9H3kc70A/s320/orly1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/2008_12_01_archive.html&usg=__X8fhsdtLMYO0Mu7p8jmLjIFN3I0=&h=167&w=214&sz=7&hl=en&start=54&tbnid=_PoWHmDD1XNeVM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDr.%2BOrly%2BTaitz%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36
Stephen Pidgeon Homeland Security??
http://www.investigatingobama.blogspot.com
Pass on
Lame Cherry is talking about Ayers:
“Birdie Obama is going to prove every blogger correct. One can view the comment sites and notice the Obama maniacs are back in their holes hiding and no longer plundering about on right wing sites being nasty. The Obama erosion is going to soon be the biggest abandonment drop when his brain sick Harry Smith types who voted for him to prove mummy and daddy were the racists and not him start figuring out they still are racists and hate Obama for it.
I actually would like to have Bill Ayers take credit for getting his young man Obama this far, as without Bill Ayers mindprint, Obama would be selling Maui Wowie out of his taco cart on the big island to tourists.”
“This is not about Birdie Obama. This is about white folks hating themselves, white women wanting to be dirtied up in naughty sex, Mexican folks looking to get back at white folks and black folks thinking a white black man would give them self esteem. This is about the Obama core group not voting for him, but voting for the creation of a Chicago Norman speaking patrician intelligence operative.
This is about Bill Ayers.”
Political correctness is cultural marxism:
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=305633
Alfonzo Rachel (all of his videos are FANTASTIC) on Obama, Leno and pop culture:
http://www.pjtv.com/video/ZoNation/Why_Be_Mad_About_Obama_on_Leno%3F/1593/
From MommaE blog radio:
Hi,
I wanted to let you know that I will be doing a show on Sentinel Radio today and every Thursday afternoon. It will be one hour of Politics and fun. There is a special chat room for this show and this is the link for the chat http://www.tsrn.us/.
We will be talking about the news received from Stephen Pidgeon and why Obama would be resorting to these kinds of tactics to make sure all records and documents pretraining to him are kept sealed. Sure makes one wonder, just what he is hiding from the American people. Could it be that all of the Law Suits are correct and he is not eligible?? Could it be that he is committing more fraudulent acts in order to stay in the highest office in our Country, thumbing his nose at OUR Constitution?? I believe that if we stay strong and persistent that we will get the truth and that “We the People” will prevail and be able to protect our Constitution and remove the Usurper from OUR Whitehouse!
Please post this on your blogs, any blogs you are connected with and allowed to post on and send to everyone in your address book. Link to the show, call in number and times are listed below.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio
Call In No: 646-727-2652
12:30 PM Pacific Time
1:30 PM Mountain Time
2:30 PM Central Time
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I hope that you will join us for the show. You can just listen, or you can choose a Nickname and join in the Chat while listening. The choice is yours.
MommaE and Matt
Serious Stuff!!
Letter to Chief Justice Roberts 03.26.09. Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
26302 La Paz ste 211
Letter to Justice Roberts 03.26.09.
Mission Viejo CA 92691
03.26.09.
Counsel for the Petitioners in Lightfoot v Bowen
Counsel for the Petitioners in Easterling et al v Obama et al
Chief Justice John J. Roberts
Supreme Court of the United States
This is to remind you that on 03.13.09. I have presented you with the motion for reconsideration in Lightfoot v Bowen, Quo Warranto in Easterling et al v Obama et al and a 164 page dossier of suspected illegal and criminal activity surrounding Mr. Obama and his supporters, that was written on 03.01.09 and sent on Attorney general Holder on 03.03.09. In front of 1200 students and faculty of the University of Moscow, Idaho you agreed to review those documents. This is a matter of National Security and National urgency and as of yet there was no response from you or Attorney General Holder, nor Robert Mueller, Director of FBI, that was copied on this dossier.
On 03.25.09. I arrived to the Washington DC and personally had delivered copies of the above documents to both the Supreme Court and the Department of Justice.
I have received a letter from your clerk William K Suter, that relates to the pleadings received on the 23rd and does not mention any documents submitted on the 13th, and I am not sure you are aware of this letter, as you didn’t seem to be aware of other matters in the Supreme Court. Mr. Suter stated, that Quo Warranto and Writ of Mandamus don’t comply with the rules and I can file a petition for exraordinary writ of MANDAMUS, and I have to file it with the court. He didn’t specify what rules he is talking about and this statement seems to be incorrect, since I have filed Quo Warranto as an original jurisdiction case, which doesn’t need to be in the form of extraordinary writ of Mandamus. Mr. Suter also stated that the Rules of this Court make no provision for the Motion for Reconsideration of an application, however the rules of this court make no provision for many other out of the ordinary acts, that happened on your watch, including and not limited to:
1. Justices of the Supreme Court meeting behind close doors with Obama, who is a person of interest and subject of litigation of my petition, that was scheduled to be heard only a few days later.
2. Any mention of my case, stating that Mr. Obama is ineligible for US presidency, being erased from the External docket of the Supreme Court right after the inauguration and two days before the case was supposed to be heard.
3. Your clerks lying to the citizens and defaming me by claiming that the above events didn’t happen, even though hundreds of citizens saw it and are prepared to testify in court in regards to such events.
4. Clerk Danny Bickel on his own accord refusing to file one of two supplemental briefs I’ve submitted.
5. Your Justices having no clue about any of Obama ineligibility cases, that they supposedly heard in conference five times.
6. Supreme Court Justice getting all of this information and doing nothing about, while under an obligation to act and correct the wrong.
7. Supreme Court Justices getting information in regarding to criminal activity and not reporting it for further investigation by law enforcement.
8. Supreme Court Justices deciding not to hear on the merits any and all cases in regards to president’s ineligibility, while finding more value in a case deling with the rights of smokers of light cigarettes to sue tobacco. It appears the right of a few trial lawyers to make millions of dollars of such litigation was more important then the right of 305 million Americans to have a legitimate president.
9. Yesterday, on 03.25.09. I was able to meet with the National Selective Service Director, Mr. Chatfield, who could not explain any inconsistencies and suspected signs of forgery in the Selective Service Certificate presented to the public by Mr. Obama. For example, according to the retired federal agent Coffman, the serial number of the certificate on the top shows first two numbers to be 08, meaning it was created in 2008, while on the bottom an extra 8 was added, to make it look like it was created in 1980. Similarly, National Director was clueless and provided no explanation to the wrong seal, wrong dates and wrong form number.
9. Recently I have read the book “Making your Case”, that Justice Scalia autographed for me. On page 77 it states ” Another factor distinctive to petitions for certiorari is that the judges don’t like to spend a lot of time deciding what to decide. Indeed in most courts they won’t even read the brief in support of your petition but will rely on summaries (or on selection of particular briefs) by law clerks’. When you have unscrupulous clerks and the issue is National Security this is inconceivable.
One of old maxims in legal practice, is that the substance trumps form. The substance dictates, that under such conditions, it is your obligation to uphold the constitution of the United States and to issue a stay to Mr. Obama’s functioning in the capacity of the president and commander in Chief and give him a reasonable time of 24 hours or 48 hours to present all of his vital records or sign a consent for release of such records. If he is not willing to do so, then per the 20th amendment, Mr. Biden becomes a temporary president for two or three months, until a new president and be chosen in a special election.
Justice Roberts, if you are unwilling to do so, it is your constitutional and moral duty to resign and let another Justice uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.
Respectfully submitted.
and is being hand delivered on my way to the airport, flying back to California,
Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
Counsel for the Petitioners.
Kittykat Thankyou!We just need to remember to stand strong and keep praying for everyone,
especially Dr.Orly and especially Steve!!!
God Bless you all!!Keep praying!!!!I’m going to look into that,Thank you!Just remember don’t be afraid for God will protect them!!!And us!
When I first saw the stuff Orly has in her dossier on Mitchell Langbert’s blog, it was first posted by contrairMairi from Illinois, it was shocking already, then. The kinds of records that Orly is finding are NORMALLY the kinds of evidence that are dug up during a money-laundering investigation.
But, the connection between Michelle Obama’s brother, and the plumber who wrecked the sprinkler system at the World Trade Center just days before 9/11 is jaw-dropping, especially after what happened in Tennessee.
This all stinks to high heaven! No wonder Obama is laughing at American pain and suffering on 60 minutes. He’s living out a hoax on the American people.
Totally funny comments:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/25/barack-obama-gordon-brown-speedboat-oceanliner
The South–
Just read your post, and I must tell you what
I hear this morning on Glenn Beck’s radio
program—Glenn talked about bho’s birth certificate and actually said for us to “give the
birth certificate issue up.” Beck gave no reason
why, just said to “give it up.” I was SHOCKED.
What are your thoughts on this ?
Berlin, Berlin—-
Those are federal felonies by Tim Geithner and Barack Obama punishable by around 100 years in prison. Those safety features are not to be used for political gain or to push Obamacare through a lap dog Congress of Democrats.
These are criminal acts which can not be denied and Geithner and Obama should both be arrested and charged as they just cost the United States citizenry again 1 trillion dollars for this stunt which money is now flowing back into Obama benefactors in a Ponzie Scheme.”
+++++++++ If this actually happened
why aren’t they indicted and going to trial?
(They hauled in Martha Stewart and sent her
to jail.)
I find myself waking up several times in the middle of the night, and when I do wake up I’m always praying. What is happening to our great country weighs heavy on my heart. I pray for everyone who is involved in trying to prove Obama is taking our country down the wrong road. I pray the lies and deceit will be proven, and Obama will be brought to justice.
I’m usually very skeptical about “scare” stories. But for some reason this one made the hackles on the back of my neck stand up:
http://www.reddirtreport.com/news.php?id=10121
If Obama’s America is ‘not a speedboat but an oceanliner’, how would you describe Brown’s Britain?
some of the comments:
–Wow, so many opportunities…
1) A paddle-less canoe up shit creek
2) A lilo
3) A rubber dinghy
4) A barnacle on the bilge deck of the USS America
5) Actually the Titanic sums it up pretty nicely
6) A lonely turd floating on the Atlantic, shunned by both the US and the EU.
… and so little humour.
–An Aldi trolley that some feral youth dumped into a canal.
(Aldi is a cash only- no frills budget store in Europe BB.)
–A Gin Palace
(flashy private yacht for those not up on nautical terms)
Such boats are steered by rich, overweight, arrogant, overpaid, individuals whose charisma hides a superficiality, greed and complete absence of vision.
Much like the bankers, lawyers and media types who continue to run Britain.
–If the US in a ocean liner the UK is a bathtub being rowed across the channel by an eccentric
–As John Masefield described it:
Dirty British Coaster with a salt-caked smoke stack
Butting through the Channel in the mad March days,
With a cargo of Tyne coal,
Road-rail, pig-lead,
Firewood, iron-ware, and cheap tin trays.
Except that most of those industrial products now come from China. So I suppose it’s now empty as well as dirty.
Maddie // March 26, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I have only read about Geithner artificially raising the market on Lame Cherry.
But it was the very thing I thought when we had this couple of plus days.
LC also said earlier that they will raise the market that people put their money back so they can finish it off (warning).
(my economic term English is really very simplistic, sorry)
Frustrated and frightened in FL // March 25, 2009 at 11:47 pm
When is someone of authority going to stand up, and address the birth status, and loyalties of this jack-ass?
Are they going to wait until he totally destroys the country, and we are at war with ourselves, before someone stands up and says….Hummmmmmmm, i wonder if he really is a Kenyan at heart? I wonder if he really was born in Kenya!?!
Because every single thing he has done since he took office is 100% “ANTI-AMERICAN” !!!
Get HIM out NOW…he is ruining our country!
+++++++
You have just expressed my exact feelings!!!!
Thanks, Berlin Berlin—
We took 401 k money out of the market (before
the upswing occurred–but still glad we did).
I totally agree with you and LC about the
“dangers” of putting money back in the market.
Take care,
Maddie
Not sure how the Homeland Security works. But could they be following S.P. for protection??? Maybe they heard chatter of a hit or something?? If they where investigating him it would seem that you would want to be undercover and not out in the open. Just seems wiered that they would be so obvious out in the open. Or maybe they are trying to scare him? But I think if they wanted to scare him they could have just went to his door and talk to him.
On Thursdays Glenn Beck will take your questions:
http://interactive.foxnews.com/glennbecklive between 6:00 – 6:15
READ LINK ON DR TAITZ SITE
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
lots of properties in different spellings of BHO’S NAME Wonder what this is about??
I found a bavarian Ron Paul site.
We surropund them. LOL!
The article from March 25th talks about this being a historic day.
The Fed prints money to buy US debts. It is only a matter of time and the dollar is at zero.
If it walks like one and talks like one…
This is a planned destruction to put in a new currency. Amero or NWO chip implant digital $
oops, forgot the link
http://bavaria-for-ron-paul.blogspot.com/
Maddie // March 26, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The South–
Just read your post, and I must tell you what
I hear this morning on Glenn Beck’s radio
program—Glenn talked about bho’s birth certificate and actually said for us to “give the
birth certificate issue up.” Beck gave no reason
why, just said to “give it up.” I was SHOCKED.
What are your thoughts on this ?
__________________
Beck is a realist, he knows there is no history of any totalitarian regimes being removed from power by the courts or tea parties protests………….
Got this from a friend who is a gun shop owner in Texas.
************************
You might want to send this to all your hunting buddies
family & friends.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009
It has already started….
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
Remember how Obama said that he wasn’t going to take
your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!
The bill 20 that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and
Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the
manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless
the ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by
July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.)
They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so
every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!
If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take
your gun!
This legislation is currently pending in 18 states:
Alabama, Arizona,California,Connecticut , Hawaii, Illinois,Indiana,Kentucky, Maryland,Mississippi,Missouri,New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee,and Washington.
Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!
To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Write to your Representative and Senators they better not support this bill, remind them on the next re-election they will not re-elected.
http://directory.usayfoundation.org/
pass on.
PD, thank you for the prayers. I have family members telling me to stop this madness. But this is bigger than all of us, it is our country and I will do anything for her. God bless you PD.
Only 14 Republican Senators voted AGAINST the alien-in-chief’s NEW WORLD ORDER recruiting organziation. These are those that voted correctly:
REPUBLICAN SENATOR’S HALL OF FAME (14)…
VOTE AGAINST NATIONAL ENSLAVEMENT ACT
Kansas Brownback, Sam
Kentucky Bunning, Jim
Oklahoma Coburn, Tom
Idaho Crapo, Mike
South Carolina DeMint, Jim
Nevada Ensign, John – Republican Campaign Committee Chairman
Oklahoma Inhofe, Jim
Arizona Kyl, Jon – Senate Minority Whip
Kentucky McConnell, Mitch – Senate Minority Leader
Idaho Risch, Jim
Kansas Roberts, Pat
Alabama Sessions, Jeff
Alabama Shelby, Richard
South Dakota Thune, John
REPUBLICAN SENATOR’S HALL OF SHAME (27)…
VOTE FOR NATIONAL ENSLAVEMENT ACT
Alaska Murkowski, Lisa
Arizona McCain, John
Florida Martinez, Mel
Georgia Chambliss, Saxby
Georgia Isakson, Johnny
Indiana Lugar, Richard
Iowa Grassley, Chuck
Louisiana Vitter, David
Maine Snowe, Olympia
Maine Collins, Susan
Mississippi Cochran, Thad
Mississippi Wicker, Roger
Missouri Bond, Kit
Nebraska Johanns, Mike
New Hampshire Gregg, Judd
North Carolina Burr, Richard
Ohio Voinovich, George
Pennsylvania Specter, Arlen
South Carolina Graham, Lindsey
Tennessee Alexander, Lamar – Republican Conference Chairman
Tennessee Corker, Bob
Texas Hutchison, Kay Bailey – Republican Policy Committee Chairman
Texas Cornyn, John – Republican Conference Secretary
Utah Hatch, Orrin
Utah Bennett, Robert
Wyoming Enzi, Mike
Wyoming Barrasso, John
God Save Amerika,
Edward C. Noonan
Chairman – Yuba County American Independent Party
National Committee Member: America’s Independent Party
Army D.A.V.
Beck is wrong!
Giving up on the BC issue is the same as giving up on the US Constitution.
Now for reality check time.
Most of us should focus on holding Congress accountable.
That includes voting the jackasses out in 2010.
Congress is the larger problem.
Citizen,
This is for you and your unrelenting efforts.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/03/25/my_speech_to_gordon_brown_goes_viral
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
This is about ammunition!
Thu., Mar. 26, 2009 3:45 PM link Name not displayed | Portland, OR
Got this from a friend who is a gun shop owner in Texas.
************************
You might want to send this to all your hunting buddies family & friends.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009
It has already started….
Ammunition Accountability Legislation
Remember how Obama said that he wasn’t going to take
your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!
The bill 20 that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the
manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers.
Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.
Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by
July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.)
They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!
If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!
This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama , Arizona ,
California , Connecticut , Hawaii , Illinois , Indiana ,
Kentucky , Maryland, Mississippi , Missouri, New Jersey, New York ,
Pennsylvania , Rhode Island , South Carolina , Tennessee , and Washington .
Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve
this BILL!!
To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Write to your Representative and Senators they better not support this bill, remind them on the next re-election they will not re-elected.
http://directory.usayfoundation.org/
pass on.
I copied and paste this from rally congress site very interesting!!!!Everyone look into this!!!!
Beck maybe getting some heat. There is big oil money involved in Fox and Obama is their guy..
The Bidens of Delaware, capitol corruption against Larry Sinclair
pass on
I’ve been busy working and trying to keep up the best that I can. Has anyone heard any new updates about Stephen Pidgeon yet?
thanks
CW — this is a test post. Please feel free to delete. My computer is acting really weird. I tried 3 times to post a disturbing video link I found elsewhere, but was thrown to the front page all 3 times — post didn’t show up as submitted or in moderation. I’m trying to figure out if it was the video link itself that was bad. Thanks — AFB
I promise to not try this link any more if it refuses again to post. It’s just very damned disturbing — link to ANOTHER possible mass gravesite.
http://www.infowars.com/video-footage-of-phoenix-mass-grave-site/
citizen wells // March 26, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Army D.A.V.
Beck is wrong!
Giving up on the BC issue is the same as giving up on the US Constitution.
Now for reality check time.
Most of us should focus on holding Congress accountable.
That includes voting the jackasses out in 2010.
Congress is the larger problem.
________________
Acorn will be many times more powerful 2010.
How do vote them out without a free press?.
These Socialists have been trying to get here since the late 20’s they’re not going to relinquish power by protesters waving tea bags and waiting on their courts to obey our Constiution……….
citizen wells
________________
Acorn will be many times more powerful 2010.
How do vote them out without a free press?.
These Socialists have been trying to get here since the late 20’s they’re not going to relinquish power by protesters waving tea bags and waiting on their courts to obey our Constiution……….
Hi, Regardless of Glen’s advice to give up, NEVER give up on America, or OUR Constitution. If need be, I will kick some butt!!!!
Maddie,
Beck is wrong for dropping the bc issue. It may be due to the fact that FOX is partially owned by Saudi Oil Billionairs (I’ve heard)
I think they all know that BO’s bc will show he was born in Kenya, but they are afraid of loosing their jobs or sponsors.
I don’t think we have until 2010 to be honest.If we wait that long, we’re doomed.
I think it’s almost time to stop showing up at rallies with signs, and start showing up with guns 🙂 (I heard a guy say that at the gun store today..lol)
That is the only thing that is going to get their damn attention at this point!
Ending the Monetary Fiasco and Returning to Sound Money
The South: I don’t think we have until 2010 to be honest.If we wait that long, we’re doomed.
Well, I know we’re not doomed, but if he continues to be prez for too much longer, it just means it’s going to be harder on Americans. Personally, I think if he continues as prez, then this country will no longer be recognized as free Americans at all.
Ian Thorpe………….
You reflect my exact same thoughts. We need all the world publicity that we can get. The more ludicrous it is the more it will help our cause.
By the way my father was from Nottingham. I am hopeful that the distrust, and disrespect that I feel towards this phoney President will spread through the countries of this world, until there is no country on Earth that will believe anything he says or does, and will instead of honoring him as a President he will be ridiculed, and spat upon until he finally realises that he is finished, and removes himself from office. You are dead on when you relate his behaviour with a cultish demeanor. This is a very scary scenario.
We are aboard a slowly capsising ship. She is dead in the water, and slowly sinking. It it really insane that the obama supporters believe that he is the greatest person on Earth. I can’t help wondering if they are willing to go down with the ship in their support of Obama. This country is about to go to it’s grave, and if the Obama supporters stay aboard they to will visit Davy Joness locker also.
Why would the stock market be doing well and going up with Geithner’s talk of taking over regulation of all private businesses?Is it as lame cherry says, that he is manipulating the market?
What do we have? A handful of Republicans fighting against this blitzkrieg against the American people? Obama is in high campaign mode and he is everywhere. It’s almost impossible to get away from him.
It looks like most of Congress/Senate are afraid of the American people as per the showing of votes for the “GIVE”Act.
We have got to get more aggressive and get organized and take back this country before it’s too late.
Why aren’t there people surrounding Stephen Pidgeon?
Why weren’t there people standing up with Orly Taitz en masse to confront the judges?
It looks like we have one shot at this and time is of the essence. We’ve got to get louder and show our presence!!
Call senators and reps and tell them About DR AITZ AND GIVE HER WEB SITE.
Say they need to ck out and over 140 military are in suit and demand proof.
Make sure hey give the site to the right people.Say it is WE THE PEOPLE NOT WE THE GOVTck out her link that shows all properties in his name with diff spellings interesting.What is this about??www.defendourfreedoms.us
The time is now. – The place is here. – We didn’t choose this war, it chose us!
– Americans can either snap out of their media induced coma and take their nation back, or they can write themselves into history as the generation that silently accepted permanent tyranny.
I’d like to have faith in my fellow Americans to do the right thing. But based on all available evidence, I see no reason to trust this nation’s future to the average American dimwit.
Half of the nation is begging for Marxism without even knowing what Marxism is, or how that story ends. The other half is paralyzed with fear.
“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson
Canadian Free Press…..
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123802521198942455.html
“the dollar’s status as a reserve currency gives the U.S. enormous advantage”. “It is this influence that Russia and China resent and would like to see displaced”.
The advantage is largely political and this how the U.S. is currently trying to position itself globally. Unfortunately it is the American taxpayer that will foot the bill by “redistributing the wealth” and empowering the financial elite.
Michael Savage
http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/SLPLayer.aspx?KCMO-AM
Kim, I’ve been wondering why the stock market has been doing so well too. I have thought for a long time now that Soros has something to do with this.
Barry’s BC was the subject of discussion today on KKOH radio here in Reno today, Bill Manders Show. Talked about some of the cases that were dismissed, and he felt that nothing would be done about the issue. Later on the show, a woman called to thank him for addressing the subject, and they talked about letters to Holder, and Taylor. Bill Manders claims to be friends with Hannity, et al.
stop the CRAP act
Blog on Becks site DR TAITZ SITE OVER AND OVER STATING 140 MILITARY HAVE JOINED HER IN A SUIT AND ALSO 13 REPS.SHE IS FROM RUSSIA AND A TRUE PATRIOT AND KNOWS THE CONSTITUTION AND IS A LAWYER TRYING TO GET AMERICAS VOICE OUT TO AMERICA.
When Larry’s book comes out ,Be great if those that can send books to all sorts of people from media to celbs,congress,etc
http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
CK LINK OF TRIP TO D.C. READ ALL THE PROPERTIES LISTED IN DIFFERENT SPELLING OF O’s name.What is this ??
Where’s the outrage?
http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/inf/infomo;jsessionid=59202B08DB7568B21BBD.1536?view=nationworld_article&feed:a=chi_trib_5min&feed:c=nationworld&feed:i=45795034
Mr Wells,
Put that on your front page please.
Thanks,
Kathy
This popped up too!
http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/inf/infomo;jsessionid=59202B08DB7568B21BBD.1536?view=nationworld_article&feed:a=chi_trib_5min&feed:c=nationworld&feed:i=45795034
http://drbobbiannewhite.890m.com/demsforrealchange/?p=133
Sorry for posting 2 identicle links. I made a mistake. But the one above explains a lot.
Thanks
Kathy
I have more on this but I have to get up for work@ 2 30 am. For work. Tomorrow I will paste more for all patriots here to KNAW on.
Kathy
OPEC OBAMA, Harvard law degree courtesy of OPEC ,via Saudi Arabia. Nice!
Some one grab Zach Jones Is Home – current post. He is absolutely SPOT ON !
Kudo’s Zach!
Very, very well done!
Posted by Thomas Joscelyn on March 26, 2009 05:38 PM
Here, from the Associated Press, is a partial account of DNI Dennis Blair’s first press conference today (emphasis mine):
During his news conference, Blair also said the Obama administration is still wrestling with what to do with the remaining 240 detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, which the president has ordered closed.
Some of the detainees, deemed non-threatening, may be released into the United States as free men, Blair confirmed.
That would happen when they can’t be returned to their home countries, because the governments either won’t take them or the U.S. fears they will be abused or tortured. That is the case with 17 Uighurs (WEE’-gurz), Chinese Muslim separatists who were cleared for release from the jail long ago. The U.S. can’t find a country willing to take them, and it will not turn them over to China.
Blair said the former prisoners would have [to] get some sort of assistance to start their new lives in the United States.
“We can’t put them out on the street,” he said.
Four short questions/comments:
(1) Does this mean that the Obama administration is planning on giving some freed Guantanamo detainees a stipend? It sure appears that way. So, not only is the Obama administration planning on freeing some detainees on U.S. soil, it is also going to pay them to live here. Amazing. Who would have thought that we would see the day when detainees who were once labeled enemy combatants would be receiving welfare?
(2) The Uighur detainees are cited, over and over again, as the types of detainees who can be safely released into the U.S. This conclusion has been reached through a combination of specious reasoning and ignorance.
None of the 17 Uighurs are master terrorists on par with the likes of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. They were mostly new recruits at the time of their capture. However, as I have argued before, they are all affiliated with and/or members of a designated terrorist organization, received training at a training camp in the al Qaeda/Taliban stronghold of Tora Bora, and have admitted that they were trained by two known terrorists. And, on top of that, the group that trained them threatened to attack the Olympic Games in China last year.
Even if you don’t think that we should lock them up and throw away the key, do we really want to pay them to live on U.S. soil?
(3) The AP says the United States can’t find a country to take the Uighurs, other than China, which may treat them harshly. But that really remains to be seen. Ireland, for example, has apparently offered to take some Guantanamo detainees. Other European nations have been somewhat more reticent.
(4) Is the Obama administration considering paying other Guantanamo detainees to live in the U.S. as well?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/03/welfare_for_freed_gitmo_detain.asp
Yes, that was a very good write up by Zach Jones!
Nice work amigo 🙂
Does anyone know if we can burn effigies of the Bilderburgs/Obama at the April 15 protest if its on the street?Maybe the gitmo detainees can give some tips…
Kim, you wrote: Why would the stock market be doing well and going up with Geithner’s talk of taking over regulation of all private businesses?Is it as lame cherry says, that he is manipulating the market?
Hi, Kim,
I think that Barky’s manipulating the market and have thought this for a long time. Look at all of his buddies, Soros, etc. Lots of money and pull going on there.
I have one thing to add to Zachs article.
All these “Big Dogs” could stop all of Obamas policies by asking one question.
Where is your Original 1961 type written b/c Mr.Obama?
They (Beck, Hannity, Rush, etc…) are bitching about his policies, and they could bring his policies to a screeching HALT, by demanding some answers at 5:00PM on national air.
Beck, Hannity, Rush, and all others!
Ask Obama to release his records on national TV and this nightmare will end immediately.
Just Do it !
The South—Absolutely, I’ve been waiting
and waiting for Sean, Bill, Rush to demand
release of the original BC as you say. Then,
all this ongoing nightmare of h*ll could come
to a screetching halt.
kittycat, I believe it too.
The stock market went down when Obama needed it to be down for his election, and they left it down to use the crisis to put through the “stimulus” bill. They waited all this time to start filling the vacancies in the Treasury Department although this department should have received priority. Why? I think they were giving Geithner time to manipulate the treasury.
Now that the federal reserve just printed up a trillion dollars, $300 billion to buy government bonds suddenly the stock market is doing good.
And now they will use that to claim that the “stimulus” bill is already starting to work.
It is all manipulation and smoke and mirrors. We are being played, big time.
We need Obama to be shown to be the usurper he is so that his whole cabinet goes with him. We need to clean house of all the corruption in the government. We need all the credit default mess to be wiped out and a constitutional American money system to be reinstated. No more federal reserve indebting us forever.
We need our lives back!
Obama is dumb as a teleprompter!
“We need all the credit default mess to be wiped out and a constitutional American money system to be reinstated. No more federal reserve indebting us forever.’
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If You have an hour, this is very interesting:
Ending the Monetary Fiasco and Returning to Sound Money
In Gold we trust 🙂
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-03-26-pakistan_N.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno
I really am convinced that this dude, aside from being a Narcissist, is seriously mentally ill.
I know there are a lot of people putting the faith and hopes into Dr. Taitz but the way she is going, the SC will NOT hear her case. Nor will the Solicit General or the AG for that matter will do anything about it. You see after 12:01 pm on January 20, 2009, any type of indictment against the President, at least for the next four years, will have to be in a form of an impeachment. That starts in the House of Representatives, more specifically in the judiciary committee. They will have to recommend impeachment to the full body of the House. By a simple majority vote, it then moves to the Senate for a trial. That is where Chief Justice Roberts will play a role by presiding over trial. So this whole nonsense of the Solicit General or calls for some sort of Grand Jury is just that… nonsense. Whether you feel that he is eligible or not to be President, he is in the office of the President and it will take an act of Congress to remove him from the office of President.
If Dr. Taitz is trying to get the SC to force the President to prove is eligibility, I don’t think the SC will have that type of power to move against a co-equal branch of government. I’ve always known the SC to hear cases to determine if that case is constitutional. Maybe that’s why Beck said just give it up.
Letter Sent to Dept of Justice. PLEASE FLOOD THEM with same type of e-mails. Especially add the PS at the end. Lets turn up the PRESSURE and DEMAND ACCOUNATBILTIY we are paying these Bozos. Time to STOP the EROSIONSTS. Lean into the LIEberals HARD.
STAND UP, RISE UP….time for Pitchfork Protests not just Tea Time.
To your attention,
As a Voter, Taxpayer, Constitutionalist, Traditionalist and American Citizen I implore you and Everyone at The Department of Justice to fully investigate and make certain to All Americans and the World that the elected President is Properly Qualified. The first Requirement of the three requirements to qualify for the office of President is that the applicant has to be Natural Born Citizen. To be Natural Born Citizen one has to be born to two (2) qualified American citizens. This is clearly a problem for the occupant of the White House because his Daddy was a Foreign National and never a citizen. Therefore he is disqualified even if he was Born in the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House. We have an IMPOSTER squatting at the People’s White House.
You, and everyone at the Justice Department, took an oath to uphold the Supreme Law of the United States contained in The Constitution this is the time to make sure you maintain that oath that you swore to uphold. We are in great peril and facing a Constitutional Crisis, Financial Failouts, Marshall Law, National Bankruptcy, etc. Time is of the essence. We Citizens are Watching. Grand Juries are being organized. Justice will prevail either by those being well paid to do it or by Constructionalists Citizens.
Consider this as Notice that there may be a problem with “Obama’s” (may not be his legal name) qualifications. If you Choose Not To Promptly Act and eventually it is found out that he was an usurper/imposter and you are proven to have Failed to Heed this Warning and Act you will be subject to arrest for dereliction of duty, malfeasance, treason and possibly other charges.
Consider this a Very Important Notice/Call to Action. An Investigation needs to be started promptly.
Standing for The Constitution,
Xxxxx Xxxx
Xxxxxxxx, XX
PS This e-mail has been Blind Mailed to many others as further means of proof that it was sent and you have been Notified.
Glen beck is a disapointment. Just another msm hack. Fox news is in bed with big oil. Watch today as he sees his ratings tank. Glen will fake another Dry Drunk confession about his strggels to be a part of the lame stream media. He deserves an Oscar.
Part II
Even though I have a difference of opinion with many here on this blog, I see how passionate and how emotional many on here are about this eligibility issue. I think it is cruel to play on those emotions and passions with false outcomes whether they are intentional or not. I guess I’m very surprised with Dr. Taitz’s methods. She, being an attorney, should know that the correct venue to hear any eligibility case against a setting President should be in Congress not the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is powerless in determining the eligibility issue. Congress will have to determine that and an investigation has to start there to build a case for impeachment. I just hate to see people get all hyped up to be let down. This could cause anger to reach to a violent level. If she or you really want to press this case for eligibility then you have to press it with the members of Congress starting with members of the House. Even the Senate can’t do anything without the House bringing an indictment in a form of impeachment.
What? A draft dodger?
http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2009/03/obama-draft-dodge-selective-service.html
Gholtron……..
It seems to me that if a usurper president is to be removed he can’e be removed via impeachment because he IS NOT THE ELECTED PRESIDENT TO BEGIN WITH. Further it would seem that this would bring the 20th amendment into play. Further it seems as though it would be up to either Congress and/or the SCOTUS to remove him .Guess what ! They are his GOOD buddies!
A Muslim will help out his brothers huh!
http://goodtimepolitics.com/2009/03/27/obama-is-now-going-to-give-gitmo-prisoners-freedom-on-american-soil-and-welfare-to-start-a-new-life/
EXCLUSIVE: Obama raised cash after leaving Senate
Bailout beneficiary gave maximum
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/27/obama-raised-cash-even-after-leaving-senate/
Oldsalt reguardless how you feel, He was elected, the votes were certified by Congress, and he was sworn in by the Chief Justics. Therefore he is the President. The SC can not do anything against a sitting President. He is now a co-equal part of govrenment.
Ghoultron…if he is ineligible he is only co-equal to his squatting Auntie
Ghoultron…if he is ineligible he is only co-equal to his squatting Auntie
Sorry for the double post…Pet rat ran across the keys
The reason BHO won was Acorn voter fraud and illegal foreign money.Recently it has been noted that over 50 % of Acorn registrations are not valid.
Also Many Congress members were deceived and thought he had been vetted.Shows they don’t do their homework.
140 military want to know.How many pres have had over 40 lawsuitsand had their records sealed and spent over 800,000 to keep them sealed??? Hiding what??
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
http://www.marchreport.com
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice/2
Good read on America’s financial oligarchs.
National Conference APRIL 3-4 ON OBAMA’S MISSING BIRTH CERTIFICATE
INFO http://www.contrariancommentary.com
hi this morning on fox they reported that they are going to let the prisoners at gizmo released in to this country and help them get started with welfare . How do we know if these people are part of obama’s attack on our country . they were not even put on trial they could be guilty terriorst .
Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 3:38 am
I know there are a lot of people putting the faith and hopes into Dr. Taitz but the way she is going, the SC will NOT hear her case. Nor will the Solicit General or the AG for that matter will do anything about it. You see after 12:01 pm on January 20, 2009, any type of indictment against the President, at least for the next four years, will have to be in a form of an impeachment. That starts in the House of Representatives, more specifically in the judiciary committee. They will have to recommend impeachment to the full body of the House. By a simple majority vote, it then moves to the Senate for a trial. That is where Chief Justice Roberts will play a role by presiding over trial. So this whole nonsense of the Solicit General or calls for some sort of Grand Jury is just that… nonsense. Whether you feel that he is eligible or not to be President, he is in the office of the President and it will take an act of Congress to remove him from the office of President.
If Dr. Taitz is trying to get the SC to force the President to prove is eligibility, I don’t think the SC will have that type of power to move against a co-equal branch of government. I’ve always known the SC to hear cases to determine if that case is constitutional. Maybe that’s why Beck said just give it up.
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What you say may be true but Stephen Pidgeon seems to think different. I received an e-mail from him yesterday saying that he believes Roberts will review all of Dr. Taitz information and probably hold a hearing. May be she and the Navy officer will get him on the criminal charges for willfully conspiring to decieve the American people by presenting a forged document and signing a selective service document that was also forged. This is a criminal act and he can be imprisoned for TREASON and locked up as a TRAITOR to the USA!!!
The Pakistani Federal Gov Recruitment Test lists Obama, not just a foreign born; but not even as a Citizen of the U.S.
http://www.fpsc.gov.pk/icms/user/jobs.php
About the site
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html?highlight=obama+kenyan
Test Answers
President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)
Gholtron,
Let’s be clear about this: if soetoro is not qualified, then NO amount of votes, oaths, , confirmations, blessings, coronations, will make him a legal holder of the office of POTUS!!
And if he is not qualified the 20th Amendment is all we need to march down to 1600 Pennsy ave and throw him OUT!
I am previously a public servant. In my region there was another public servant who had worked on the job for years, turns out he submitted fraudulent credentials to get the job. He was immediately fired and publicly stripped of his qualification to hold office.
So what is the difference here? No man is above the law. You may want to think theory, but I am talking constitution. America’s future is as stake.
Ghoultron,
It is certainly an interesting argument as to whether or not he IS POTUS. If he fails to qualify then the 20th amendment would come into play. The question is one of timing. In other words can an ineligible person be sworn in and actually have the power of the office. There are many that believe non of his actions are valid.
The problem with your argument of bringing this to Congress will not work. The leadership will not allow any arguments to Obama’s eligibility. So impeachment is not an option.
But if the SCOTUS were to look at the evidence and conclude that he is not eligible then I can’t imagine our country would just ignore that fact even if the court can’t take action. Revealing that fact would be enough.
does anyone know when people will finally come together and march on the white house and protest obama to step down , is there going to be a march I heard somthing about the 4th of july , That would be to late our country will be ruin by then , how about protesting the supreme court office to get attention .
cady:
http://www.teapartyday.com/
Fellow Patriots – ghoultron is an Obot that pops in from time to time trying to rile you up. The best thing to do is ignore it and all it’s comments and it will go away.
Dr. Taitz must be causing some new concerns to bring the Obots out again.
Rocknee // March 27, 2009 at 12:12 am
Obama is dumb as a teleprompter!
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That’s an insult to teleprompters – don’t mess with TOTUS!
Cant listen to Glen Beck. The guy can talk an whole hour and maybe say two important things. Never heard a radio host that could not stay on the subject!!
Gholtron,
I respect your opinion. But the fact is, we are the USA a great land of laws and probably too many more greats to mention here. I can not fathom the idea that we can not uphold the rule of law and take care of this guy and move on with our business. If he is ignorant as all say, then let him stay there and lets get the others responsible for this Axisrod, Rahn, Pelosi, Ayers, Soros, this list goes on). I’m sure we have all the data. I dont think many people remember WWII, where we had the Tuskeee Airmen, the creation of the 101th Airborne and the fact the we kicked ass on two fronts.
Americans will take care of this problem if we have too!!
Fellow Constitutionalist Patriots,
Don’t listen to EROSIONIST detractors. We the people have a right to bring all and any actions from any and all angles. This never happened before so there is no precendent or map on how to proceed. I encourage all ACTIONS by all teh attorneys and all activists that are trying to defend the Constitution against the Erosionists.
If FRAUD is proven to have happened it invalidates EVERYTHING as if nothing happened. The only thing that can invalidate a Naturalization Citizenship after it has been sworn is FRAUD. This has to be the same for the Preisdency. Who will (what branch of gov’t) look into whether there was FRAUD/FORGERY ? It is the RESPONSIBILITY of ALL AMERICANS and every single person in gov’t and military. If you suspect FRAUD and do nothing you are actually liable and can be arrested for treason.
SO let’s stop with the negativity, join and encourage ALL ACTIONS. Even if they get turned down or fail it get sthe word out and our voices are gettign more numerous and LOUDER.
Best thing you can do is pass the word around…tell two friends and so on.
Tea Parties are great but Pitchfork Protests are needed.
Fellow Constitutionalist Patriots Stand Up, Rise Up, Let’s ROLL.
Gholtron the Obot,
Guess my point is after Pearl Harbor, a Sleeping Giant was awakened. After 9/11, a Sleeping Giant was awakened. After confiscating our weapons and declaring martial, a Sleeping Giant will be awakened.
I have no idea whether ghoultron supports or rejects an Obama Presidency based on the comments above. But as to whether BO is the POTUS, in fact, he is. That is, the EC selected him, notwithstanding no evidence exists that he is a NBC, as required by the U.S. Constitution; and Congress Certified the EC vote. Then, the CJ of the SCOTUS swore him in. This means, BO is POTUS. He did not violate the Constitution; both the EC and the Congress did. And, given that the position of POTUS is filled through the EC and Congress then, the position is filled (by BO). This means, to remove the POTUS from office, Congress must impeach him. In the alternative, if we can disseminate the facts to our elected officials, both state and federal, in a thoughtful reasonable manner then, we can influence public pressure to get him to resign.
Jacqlyn, CA Patriot, and Greg Goss
Thank you for your respectful response. There has never been a President that was tried in the Supreme Court. The constitution is clear on how to try and remove a sitting President. That has to happen in Congress first. What the Supreme Court was saying about standing is that Congress is the only body that would have standing about the qualifications of being President. I just don’t see how the justice department can force the President to prove his eligibility. Now if there were other crimes then they can investigate and give their findings to Congress. It is in Congress that these proceedings must take place. I see Dr. Taitz trying to force the Supreme Court to hear her case and they can not make the President do anything. It has to be proven in Congress that he is not eligible not the Supreme Court. If he was still a candidate then Congress would petition the Supreme Court for eligibility. As I stated before, in the eyes of the Supreme Court he is still the President. Congress confirmed that during the certification of the votes.
As for Kate’s comment, I have stated in past posting that I do support President Obama. That’s no secret. I thought that the purpose of this blog is to convince us “Obots” to your way of thinking. You can ignore me all you want but that does not erase the facts or the arguments that I am presenting. These arguments will be brought out to light. I have not put anyone down. I am trying to have an intelligent argument and bringing up points why we “Obots” are not convinced of your cause. If you are not going to contribute any intellectual arguments then I much rather for you to ignore me as I will you.
jbjd,
Then Obama knew all this prior to running for the office and knew that it was a shoe in for him and no one would remove him. I believe he himself violated the Constitution knowing he was a Brit subject at birth. I should say saying he was a Brit subject at birth, He probably dont know who he is!!
Any thoughts on what Andy Martin’s “Big Surprise” will be?
Just wondering.
Gholtron says:
There has never been a President that was tried in the Supreme Court.
You should be saying: There has never been a president to circumvent the Constitution, fraud the American people, threatened innocent citizens, scrubbed articles and sites on the internet, organized voter fraud, rape the economy and give it to european banks, be a drug user and homosexual, as said before, the list go on.
You should be proud of your president.
Rocknee,
Prove all that. Until it is proven, then I am proud of him.
jbjd
says
“He did not violate the Constitution”
he is still usurper, and this has happened before to a US senator, and he was removed, and all mention of this name removed, and never called a senator. If you go down a path, you must complete your journey.
Furthermore, yes he did violate the Constitution, he , along with Pelosi have signed CERTIFICATES under penalty of perjury. Furthermore, the Constitution says he “must qualify” which puts the burden on the applicant just like the rest of society applying for any job. I agree that both CONGRESS and SC are derelict in their duties, and both grossly neglient. As well as the electoral college. But the electoral collegs is purely a political evolution away from the original intent, can you hardly blame the EC?
Congress and SC however, that is another matter.
*negligent
Rocknee, yes, but, BO did not violate the Constitution. In other words, the law does not say, no one who is not a NBC may try to trick the EC into choosing him for POTUS. Rather, it says, the EC chooses the POTUS; and the POTUS must be a NBC.
Rocknee // March 27, 2009 at 10:35 am
Gholtron,
I respect your opinion. But the fact is, we are the USA a great land of laws and probably too many more greats to mention here. I can not fathom the idea that we can not uphold the rule of law and take care of this guy and move on with our business. If he is ignorant as all say, then let him stay there and lets get the others responsible for this Axisrod, Rahn, Pelosi, Ayers, Soros, this list goes on). I’m sure we have all the data. I dont think many people remember WWII, where we had the Tuskeee Airmen, the creation of the 101th Airborne and the fact the we kicked ass on two fronts.
Americans will take care of this problem if we have too!!
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I never said that you should ignore the fact. Even if I disagree with you, that does not mean you should stop pursuing what you believe in. What I am saying the way that you are approaching this is not the proper way to approach it. Yes we are a nation of laws but Dr. Taitz can not circumvent them forcing the SC or the justice dept. to try him. That’s all I’m saying.
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Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 11:06 am
Jacqlyn, CA Patriot, and Greg Goss
Thank you for your respectful response. There has never been a President that was tried in the Supreme Court. The constitution is clear on how to try and remove a sitting President. That has to happen in Congress first. What the Supreme Court was saying about standing is that Congress is the only body that would have standing about the qualifications of being President. I just don’t see how the justice department can force the President to prove his eligibility. Now if there were other crimes then they can investigate and give their findings to Congress. It is in Congress that these proceedings must take place. I see Dr. Taitz trying to force the Supreme Court to hear her case and they can not make the President do anything. It has to be proven in Congress that he is not eligible not the Supreme Court. If he was still a candidate then Congress would petition the Supreme Court for eligibility. As I stated before, in the eyes of the Supreme Court he is still the President. Congress confirmed that during the certification of the votes.
As for Kate’s comment, I have stated in past posting that I do support President Obama. That’s no secret. I thought that the purpose of this blog is to convince us “Obots” to your way of thinking. You can ignore me all you want but that does not erase the facts or the arguments that I am presenting. These arguments will be brought out to light. I have not put anyone down. I am trying to have an intelligent argument and bringing up points why we “Obots” are not convinced of your cause. If you are not going to contribute any intellectual arguments then I much rather for you to ignore me as I will you.
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Gholtron—-
Much of what you say here is probably true….however many people at this blog have never supported Obama and saw through his game on many fronts long before he was elected….so you have to understand that we are all frustrated with the way our government is taking away our freedoms and liberties and in disbelief that all Americans haven’t yet realized that this isn’t a party fight…but a fight for all of America to end the corruption in our government….starting with having fair and honest elections. I still contend as I have even before the election that Mr. Soetoro will be handcuffed eventually and put in prison for criminal activity….whether it be related to his deception into the job as POTUS or much of his illegal activity before he was elected to even the Senate. I used to live in Illionois so I am perfectly aware of the corruption that runs rampant in its government for many decades…Obama is an extension of that corruption and has brought it to Washington DC! Only time will tell and the truth shall set our nation free. I have also said this…..God is the one in control here with many Patriots by his side! We will have to get back to our moral and ethical values starting with the end to murdering babies or the USA as we all want it to be the land of the free and the home of the brave shall be lost.
ObOT wrote:
I just don’t see how the justice department can force the President to prove his eligibility.
>>>they can make a ruling and order the Hawaii Dept. to reveal his records, and other colleges.
Now if there were other crimes then they can investigate and give their findings to Congress.
>>>OBAMA has already committed a major crime, he has perjured himself as well as Pelosi, in signing certs that he was eligible. Furthermore, he defrauded millions of people to the tune of 600 billion by receiving their campaign funds knowing fully well that he is not a natural born citizen.
It is in Congress that these proceedings must take place.
>>>>>>not so, QW can occur, and Congress has been deceived too by this fraud , liar, classless, a-hole.
I see Dr. Taitz trying to force
>>>Dr Taitz is not trying to force anything, an OBOT at the SC clerk level obstructed her case. She has every right, as do the prior lawyers who were obstructed to have their cases heard.
the Supreme Court to hear her case and they can not make the President do anything.
>>>you are right, they can not make the President do anything. But they can come out with a ruling that says he is not eligible. Then the shit will hit the proverbial fan. Outrage, and the entire looney bin left wing of the Democratic Socialist party starting with OBAMA, Pelosi, Howard Dean, Rham , Biden, will go to jail. And that will be a start in gaining back our nation from these thugs that illegally hijacked it from us real Americans.
It has to be proven in Congress that he is not eligible not the Supreme Court.
>>>no it doesn’t.
If he was still a candidate then Congress would petition the Supreme Court for eligibility.
>>>>you are making things up now, no where in the Constitution does it say this , anywhere.
As I stated before, in the eyes of the Supreme Court he is still the President. Congress confirmed that during the certification of the votes.
>>>>Congress did not certify the votes correctly, Pelosi ramrodded it past Cheney when there were obvious objections coming to the floor. Furthermore there are many STATE election laws, such as in CA , that give the right to legit candidates to object. This is the case with Allen Keyes. Someone should also file a case on “behalf of ” John McCain. Your thought process shows a complete lack of state’s rights, state’s election laws, and how they interface on the FEDERAL level.
get a clue.
Parallels in law cannot logically be drawn between the choosing of a U.S. Senator via direct vote; and the election of a POTUS by means of the Electoral College process, as prescribed in the Constitution.
TO: jbjd // March 27, 2009 at 10:52 am
TO: Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 11:06 am
I think we have to attack from all directions. This is unprecendented no one knows how to resolve this mess or what approach to use.
I believe Impeachment is used when a Sitting President does something wrong, WHILE BEING PRESIDENT. What we are bringing up happened during the election and is FRAUD after the fact. Who has jurisdiction after the fact? We are not sure. Attack at all fronts.
BTW I don’t believe the Supreme Court said anything about “STANDING” I believe each time they just decided NOT TO TAKE UP THE CASE, if they even ever MET or Saw the cases, with no opinion written. They sent it to the lower courts.
Like I said before Naturalized Citizenship can be voided after the fact because fo FRAUD. The presidency is the same. I don’t believe it is IMPEACHMENT but if that works I’ll take it.
I beleieve the crime was done Before he was President and Congress has no Jurisdiction in the election process Prior to them certifying the Vote.
I say keep up the pressure, with all processes, we are growing and being heard and eventually the Truth Will See The Light.
Orly Taitz is Right: Bring actions at all points: CONgress, Supreme Court, Justice Department, Military, Election Commission, FBI, Grand Juries, Attorney General, Sheriffs, State Gov’t, etc.
Lets support all actions. Until we find the right way, the right solution, no one is “wrong” and we Constututionalists should support as much as possible. Spread the word and support any way you can. Constitutionalist Stand Up, Rise Up, Erosionists are on the attack. Lady Liberty needs us to stand guard.
We should all get Behind “Obama” and push The Transparency FRAUD, right out of the People’s White House.
50 Grand Juries in 50 States in 10 Days.
Pitchfork Protests.
PS The first crackpipe president, The Fraud, is squatting at the People’s White House.
jbjd
wrote “Parallels in law….. ”
but parallels in history can, what I stated happened to an ex- senator actually did occur.
And the same would apply to OBAMA.
jbjd
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Rather, it says, the EC chooses the POTUS; and the POTUS must be a NBC.
>>the constitution also says that the applicant must qualify….which means that the onus goes back onto the applicant. And so far OBAMA has not qualified, he has faked people out by not showing bona fide credentials.
wannagab? // March 27, 2009 at 11:13 am
Any thoughts on what Andy Martin’s “Big Surprise” will be?
>>>Wannagab
where are you getting this from? Link?
GhouObOT wrote:
I just don’t see how the justice department can force the President to prove his eligibility.
>>>they can make a ruling and order the Hawaii Dept. to reveal his records, and other colleges.
Now if there were other crimes then they can investigate and give their findings to Congress.
>>>OBAMA has already committed a major crime, he has perjured himself as well as Pelosi, in signing certs that he was eligible. Furthermore, he defrauded millions of people to the tune of 600 billion by receiving their campaign funds knowing fully well that he is not a natural born citizen.
It is in Congress that these proceedings must take place.
>>>>>>not so, QW can occur> and Congress has been deceived too by this fraud , liar, classless, hole.
I see Dr. Taitz trying to force
>>>Dr Taitz is not trying to force anything, an OBOT at the SC clerk level obstructed her case. She has every right, as do the prior lawyers who were obstructed to have their cases heard.
the Supreme Court to hear her case and they can not make the President do anything.
>>>you are right, they can not make the President do anything. But they can come out with a ruling that says he is not eligible. Then the shit will hit the proverbial fan. Outrage, and the entire looney bin left wing of the Democratic Socialist party starting with OBAMA, Pelosi, Howard Dean, Rham , Biden, will go to jail. And that will be a start in gaining back our nation from these thugs that illegally hijacked it from us real Americans.
It has to be proven in Congress that he is not eligible not the Supreme Court.
>>>no it doesn’t.
If he was still a candidate then Congress would petition the Supreme Court for eligibility.
>>>>you are making things up now, no where in the Constitution does it say this , anywhere.
As I stated before, in the eyes of the Supreme Court he is still the President. Congress confirmed that during the certification of the votes.
>>>>Congress did not certify the votes correctly, Pelosi ramrodded it past Cheney when there were obvious objections coming to the floor. Furthermore there are many STATE election laws, such as in CA , that give the right to legit candidates to object. This is the case with Allen Keyes. Someone should also file a case on “behalf of ” John McCain. Your thought process shows a complete lack of state’s rights, state’s election laws, and how they interface on the FEDERAL level.
crackpipe prez, good one, and i like portuguese post above too, good points.
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Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 11:31 am
Rocknee,
Prove all that. Until it is proven, then I am proud of him.
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Gholtron—–
Soetoro has covered his tracks pretty well and now he has the power to keep them covered….we Patriots are just waiting for that one small crack and then I’m sure all the evidence will come pouring out sooner or later. You can bet on one thing though….. and that is we Patriots love our country and we are not going to give up our fight to reveal what we believe to be the truth and very damaging evidence against the USURPER!!
He do already have proof of his homosexual and illegal drug activities with a witness in Larry Sinclair (the only one willing to come forward and tell the truth so far) who did the sex acts with him and the drug use…which the drug use Soetoro admits to in his own books…..this is not someone I would be proud of and would be highly suspicious of in any governmental office especially the POTUS! My morals and ethics are far superior to this kind of behavior….but then again…..with the LORD as my leader I try to stay on his straight and narrow path….some days it is difficult even with the best of intentions!
ok here’s what andy martin wrote
“big surprise”
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 25, 2009
Conference updates:
1. National media interest continues to build
Both conservative publications and mainstream media are expressing increased interest in the National Conference scheduled for April 3-4. “This is the first time an organized, coherent attempt has been made to schedule a meeting, and discuss and debate the issues concerning Obama’s birth and ‘eligibility’ issues,” stated Executive Director Andy Martin. “The conference will be under a firm hand, mine, so while there will be free and open commentary there will not be abusive language or delusional ideation. People are welcome to their opinions, as long as they can point to some tangible information or evidence to sustain them. No one is going to be allowed to suggest Obama is made of ‘green cheese’ or something similarly silly. Obama has left questions about his provenance wide open; we want to have a serious discussion, not a comic book session. I have written one book on Obama, and I hope to write another. I am planning to appear before a Hawai’i intermediate appellate court when my appeal seeking access to BHO’s birth certificate is heard. I believe we should maintain the highest standards of decorum.”
In the coming days we will be updating and supplementing our material on the blog. We are looking forward to an exciting exchange of ideas on April 3-4, with a “Big Surprise” scheduled for April 4th.
>>>i think it’s just going to be anti climatic….we shall see. Maybe one of his internal contacts , that he says he has, provided a copy of you know what….?….
What?
Gholtron,
Where has all the money gone? If you answer correctly, you could qualify to be a Senator!!
Da Verg,
That’s my question … what? LOL!
I would think if they had concrete evidence it would already be out there. But, who knows?
Another day, another story.
da verg, nothing in the Constitution says, the “applicant must qualify”; and we failed to write laws in the states that require the candidates for POTUS submitting nominating papers to get on the general election ballots, to be NBC’s, or face criminal penalties. We could also stop voting for the same members of Congress who Certified the EC vote without requiring a full vetting of the candidate’s qualifications. (This is trickier because, no law specifically requires the EC to vet the candidate, but only that the POTUS must be a NBC.)
jbjd
Still comes back to the obama, honor, what is it, “Conduct Unbecoming” something like that?
Citizens now have a VOICE PETITION
DR TAITZ HAS A PETITION NOW FOR ALL TO SIGN http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
jbjd
amm XX article 3 clearly provides for and alludes to “president must qualify”. This applies not only to vacant position, but also to the office, despite the fact that this clearly addresses the vacant position, it also shows that the framers mindset toward the overall position. To say otherwise would imply that elected president does NOT qualify. The framers of the ammendment fully realize that the president must qualify. So the question becomes how do you qualify? I believe this answers your question that “no where does it say”. Ammendment XX article 3 clearly provides framework for such qualification. I read it to mean that the applicant must provide the credentials in all cases. That is the presumed mindset of the authors until stated otherwise.
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da verg // March 27, 2009 at 1:49 pm
jbjd
amm XX article 3 clearly provides for and alludes to “president must qualify”. This applies not only to vacant position, but also to the office, despite the fact that this clearly addresses the vacant position, it also shows that the framers mindset toward the overall position. To say otherwise would imply that elected president does NOT qualify. The framers of the ammendment fully realize that the president must qualify. So the question becomes how do you qualify? I believe this answers your question that “no where does it say”. Ammendment XX article 3 clearly provides framework for such qualification. I read it to mean that the applicant must provide the credentials in all cases. That is the presumed mindset of the authors until stated otherwise.
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da erg—-The Constitution does allow a lot of ambiguity so I believe that is why the justices need to clarify!!! Maybe they need to interpret the entire Constitution into simple and precise language so we all understand the exact meaning of each Amendment….that should keep them busy for a while and provide them something useful to do in order to earn their wages….God knows they haven’t earned them recently!!
Jacqlyn Smith // March 27, 2009 at 11:41 am
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Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 11:06 am
Gholtron—-
Much of what you say here is probably true….however many people at this blog have never supported Obama and saw through his game on many fronts long before he was elected….so you have to understand that we are all frustrated with the way our government is taking away our freedoms and liberties and in disbelief that all Americans haven’t yet realized that this isn’t a party fight…but a fight for all of America to end the corruption in our government….starting with having fair and honest elections. I still contend as I have even before the election that Mr. Soetoro will be handcuffed eventually and put in prison for criminal activity….
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Jacqlyn.
I understand what you are saying about the frustration and he is, for a lack of a better word, hated here on this blog. I get that. There is no way am I going to even try to convince you or anyone here to change your judgment. You have a right to your opinion. But I feel that part of that frustration comes when the there are hopeful signs of expulsion of his ineligibility and then it fizzles out. I feel that people can be mis-lead directly or indirectly. I totally agree with jbjb that we first have to fix the system by which this has occurred. New laws have to be written. We have to fight for changes to make elections fairer. We have to elect new representatives periodically and not make career politicians. As the way the election laws are now, it would be easy for anyone to become the President, provided if they have the money. I do, however give you guys credit to at least bringing this issue to light at least trying to. I don’t know if it is too late to prove President Obama’s eligibility but at least you can get the ball rolling for future candidates.
I have believed BO is Constitutionally ineligible for POTUS since last summer, when I first researched HI law and discovered the meaninglessness of a Certification of Live Birth to establish birth in HI. And, despite the plurality his Electors received in the general election on Nov. 4, I still had faith they would investigate the NBC issue before casting their votes on Dec. 10. Because they – the Electors – choose the President. And, even after they approved the election of an ineligible candidate, I still hoped Congress would have the time and incentive to investigate before Certifying the EC vote on January 8.
There is no penalty on the books just for being an ineligible POTUS. (This does not mean, a case could not be made for fraud or some other infraction.) Interestingly, under the laws in several states, the major political party that fails to put forward a candidate for POTUS in any general election loses the right to automatically have its candidate on the ballot in the next general election. In other words, if at any time B is determined not to be a NBC then, in order to get its nominee for POTUS on the ballot next time, the D Party must gather signatures and pass eligibility scrutiny like any other candidate who wants to get onto the state’s general election ballot.
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Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I understand what you are saying about the frustration and he is, for a lack of a better word, hated here on this blog. I get that. There is no way am I going to even try to convince you or anyone here to change your judgment. You have a right to your opinion. But I feel that part of that frustration comes when the there are hopeful signs of expulsion of his ineligibility and then it fizzles out. I feel that people can be mis-lead directly or indirectly. I totally agree with jbjb that we first have to fix the system by which this has occurred. New laws have to be written. We have to fight for changes to make elections fairer. We have to elect new representatives periodically and not make career politicians. As the way the election laws are now, it would be easy for anyone to become the President, provided if they have the money. I do, however give you guys credit to at least bringing this issue to light at least trying to. I don’t know if it is too late to prove President Obama’s eligibility but at least you can get the ball rolling for future candidates.
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Gholtron—-You are exactly right….but we are not giving up the fight to hold the present government official’s feet to the fire as well. Money did get this evil and deceitful man into office so the election laws certainly need to be revamped….unless down the road we want someone like Castro or Chavez controlling our lives. I don’t think the OBOTS would want that either!!
Gholtron: ” I thought that the purpose of this blog is to convince us “Obots” to your way of thinking.”
Do You really think that?
I personally stay away from blogs frequented by Obots, because I learned early on that it is a mayor waste of time.
Also I don’t think we see our purpose in convincing “people” of our believes.
It is an exchange of information, without strings attached.
Some Hillary supporters, some McCain/Palin supporters, some neither, conservatives, constitutionalists, freedom fighters…
We don’t usually get into group battles.
It is about the issue.
Usually what You think about others (intentions) shows a big deal about Yourself, not the other.
There is no penalty on the books just for being an ineligible
>>>sure there are, just look at CA for example. Calls for jail time.
Gholtron: “I understand what you are saying about the frustration and he is, for a lack of a better word, hated here on this blog.”
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I don’t hate Obama.
If I had to describe my feelings towards him, it is: “Incomptence meets corruption”
Not so unique in this world and definetely no reason for hate.
What I realize now is that his (s)election made a lot of people, including me, aware of what liberty means and what the fundament of a free society is. That’s good.
This way his handlers probably woke up a sleeping dragon.
Jacqlyn Smith (and Ghoultron), yes, we are still trying to get him out of there… but before too long, we also have to write new laws…
da verg, please, cite the CA law for me… And remember, this is a state law penalizing ? for getting onto the ballot but not for being a Constitutionally ineligible POTUS. Remember, I keep saying, we can use the decision of any official authorized to make such a determination that BO is Constitutionally ineligible for the job. For example, the state AG investigating fraud related to names on the general election ballot in CA could determine, BO is not a NBC. How long do you think he could remain in office with such a determination from just this one state?
On another topic…
Everyone, Dateline NBC had a great show last Sunday describing in lay terms how we got into the current economic crisis, featuring Professor Warren from Harvard. She was fabulous. They are airing part 2 tonight and part 3 on Sunday.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/2009/03/24_warren.html
Amendment XX, Section 3. “…or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;”
Clearly the President elect failed to qualify by Jan 20th, at least beyond a reasonable doubt.
The VP did not obey the Constitution because he did not act as President until a President shall have qualified.
It’s clear that to be President, the President “shall have qualified”. I believe that Obie violated the Constitution in that be did not meet the “shall have qualified” clause.
IMHO, both Obie and VP have violated the Constitution along with many others.
The problem that we have is there is no formal, statutory system in place to assure the candidates are qualified.
In the past this was done informally… by the public… by the free press…. by the candidates’ word of honor.
It is now apparent that the informal system which worked pretty well with a free press and men of honor, has clearly failed us.
So the real question is, What is our recourse?
Since this question has never been answered before, it seems prudent to take as many parallel paths as possible.
It is clear that our Congress has done little to resolve this question. In fact, all they have done is painfully remind us of our situation nearly 250 years ago when only aristocrats could bring up such questions.
Last time, the patriots determined that they had God given unalienable rights – and revolted.
In spite of the corruption at many levels of our government, we still have those unalienable rights.
Again the question remains, How best to exercise those rights and get back to our limited federal government operating as a constitutional republic.
Berlin Berlin, my teenage son knows I (blank) BO. He asked me the other day, what if one-dollar bills were printed with his picture, would you use them? I told him I would use five-dollar bills and tell the cashier to keep the change! (Of course, I re-thought what I had said, and decided, I would consolidate as many purchases as I could to come close to $5. And I would keep the change.)
jbjd,
I think that gives him too much power over Your life.
On the other hand, I’m not an American citizen, and therefore have it maybe easier to distance myself emotionally.
Maybe not, because after the elections I could not stand seeing his pictures or hearing his voice.
I thought, this are going to be tough four years, since he is seeking media exposure so much.
Then I made a decision not to be emotionally involved.
This way I could even see the inauguration, his speech was boring and he is not dignified enough for this job.
Of course the distance-trick does not always work.
A comment from Orly’s blog:
whitewolf wrote:
3/27/2009: Pakistan Civil Service Website: Obama Listed As “Kenyan” Born:
For those interested in a site that comes out of Pakistan, there is information there that will raise eyebrows to say the least. Go to the URL listed below and start to scroll down the column listed under Current Affairs. Go down the list till you come to “Presidents” go slow till you find President of the US…Obama is listed…read where they say he was born…I have no further comment on this. it is up to the reader to make any determination. Just remeber this, the names presented are verified names and positions by documents and internal verification. Posted as reference for the people. Interesting to say the least.
The Intro reads:
Welcome CSSforum.com.pk, a complete resource for CSS competitive examination and information about Pakistan civil service. The website serves as a free resource to help and guide CSS aspirants.
The URL:
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html?highlight=obama+kenyan
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/87549
FAX BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TJ // March 27, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Amendment XX, Section 3. “…or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;”
Clearly the President elect failed to qualify by Jan 20th, at least beyond a reasonable doubt.
The VP did not obey the Constitution because he did not act as President until a President shall have qualified.
It’s clear that to be President, the President “shall have qualified”. I believe that Obie violated the Constitution in that be did not meet the “shall have qualified” clause.
########################################################################TJ,
What authority, what Judge, What government body said the President Obama has failed to qualify? That’s like saying that you robbed a bank I know you did. I don’t need a court, witness, jury or judge to say that you did. You did it because I believe or know you did. See what I mean?
I will over look what
Da verg,
I will overlook the name calling (GhouObOT) because I do want to address your issue, and besides, I’ve been called worse if you only knew my ex-wife but that’s another story.
You said “they can make a ruling and order the Hawaii Dept. to reveal his records and other colleges”.
Again, Since he is the President, the SC will not hear arguments about his eligibility. If he was still a Presidential candidate and if the Congress had challenged his eligibility, then he can make an argument to the SC to prove his eligibility. Once he became President the way the SC will hear arguments about him will change. They will hear arguments about the laws he has signed or policies that he will try to enact as being constitutional or not. But they will not try him on his office. The Constitution does that give the SC that power to do so. It gave that power to Congress.
The Constitution does that give the SC that power to do so. It gave that power to Congress.
That should read that Constitution does NOT give the SC that power. Sorry.
FAX BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Federal Reserve Transparency Act HR 1207/ S 513
flyer:
Click to access fed-res-2.pdf
YouTube:
Ah, and ignore the trolls 😉
It’s our precious time.
The Federal Reserve Transparency Act HR 1207/ S 513
flyer:
Click to access fed-res-2.pdf
YouTube:
oops!
I thought I was in moderation, because of the word “bomb”
So posted it twice, sorry!
gholtron
go back and read the thread, you are spinning out.
My response was to someone else, not to you, who said something that the constitution doesn’t say this that or the other thing.
TO:
Gholtron // March 27, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I believe that the SC can be asked for an opinion on whether he qualified or not.
ALSO like I said before when there is FRAUD involved which it is looking more and more like there was RAMPANT FRAUD than SC has jurisdiction to decide if there was FRAUD and FORGERY.
IN any case FULL STEAM AHEAD on all fronts NEVER GIVE UP, all courts, all departments, states, etc. EVENTUALLY something will break.
The Rage is Growing and Growing eventually there will be a tipping point.
Pitchfork Protests
Redress of grievances – Petition for indictment of Timothy Geithner, Barack Obama, Supreme Court Clerk for stays Danny Bickell, Judges that refuse to uphold Constitution and hear the cases of Obama’s ineligibility on the merits and members of Congress and Senate, that refuse to hold Judicial hearings and sign subpoenas for all of Obama’s vital records.
Timothy Geithner should be indicted.
Obama should be indicted for massive fraud of American people and treason.
Judges should be indicted for not upholding constitution and not hearing the cases of Obama’s lack of eligibility.
Supreme Court Clerk, Danny Bickell, should be indicted for interfering with the justice system.
Attorney General Eric Holder should be indicted for not investigating all of Obama’s illegal acts.
The Congressmen and Senators should be indicted for not holding judicial committee hearings on BO’s illegitimacy for presidency.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/RedressofGrievances/
Please sign today and pass on to family and friends too.
posted – http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/25/indictments.aspx#Comment
jbjd
ca voter rights
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=elec&group=02001-03000&file=2300
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=elec&group=18001-19000&file=18350-18351
and the kicker
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=elec&group=18001-19000&file=18500-18502
Berlin,Where on DR TAITZ SITE IS THE CSSFORUM LISTED???
blog this info Pakistan civil service
Berlin,Where on DR TAITZ SITE IS THE CSSFORUM LISTED???
blog this info Pakistan civil service
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
new petition sign up
MB,
it was in the comment section.
http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/27/selective-service-data-on-dossiers-has-been-updated.aspx#comment-1938434
I don’t really know if it is an official site, but I forwarded it anyway.
da verg, send these to my blog. On a cursory look, it would appear that we could allege a misdemeanor in that the DNC swore BO is a NBC when he is not (I know technically, the Certification of Nomination they submitted in CA did not contain that extra line required by HI law but, the DNC rules require the nominee to be a NBC and so, saying he is the nominee is the same as saying, he is an NBC. (Brilliant, huh.)
I am still working on the HI fraud letter (to the AG). This is the first and, the hardest. The rest will be easy. And the first states I am drafting will be those with laws like the ones you found for CA, which spell out a penalty for fraud.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
That ‘Pakistan civil service’ site contains a disclaimer at the bottom that clearly identifies, the information contained therein is not official, but rather, offered by a civil servant who is trying to help others pass the civil service test. He is alleging BO was born in Kenya.
da verg, please send these links to my blog. I glanced at the links you provided and, it looks like we could allege this misdemeanor: The DNC fraudulently swore BO is a NBC when they know, he is not. (Technically, the Certification of Nomination they submitted in CA did not contain that extra line required by HI law saying, the nominee is a NBC. But the DNC rules require the nominee to be a NBC and so, saying he is the nominee is the same as saying, he is an NBC. (Brilliant, huh.))
I am still working on the HI fraud letter (to the AG). This is the first and, the hardest. The rest will be easy. And the first states I am drafting will be those with laws like the ones you found for CA, which spell out a penalty for fraud.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
da verg, I am having trouble posting my response to you; I keep getting a prompt saying, this is a duplicate comment. I will try again later.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92971
Keyes to appeal.
Please pass this on.
For the First Time in My Whole Live I’m NOT Proud of my country’s government. I’m actually ASHAMED, Embarassed, Untrusting, Digusted, Etc.
If ever we needed CHANGE it is NOW.
Throw all the bums out, force them to resign, etc. Where are the Real Constitution Loving/Obeying/Respecting Patriot Leaders?
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME………
CONgress, SCOTUS, POTUS, if you need to get a refresher course on being a Patriot read about, Davie Crocket, Peter Francisco, Jefferson, Revere, Washington, Etc.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME………
venice etc….
Does everybody have Keyes’ blog?
here it is:
Berlin Berlin, I went to the Pakistan civil service link and didn’t find any reference to Kenya…?
Another MSM attempt to paint our protests as a “whack job” against the establishment. So far our peaceful protests have met a brick wall. What happens next?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2214572/posts
New word of the day:
FEDZILLA
here it is how it was used:
Have you ever read the US Constitution? The Federal Government has no right to steal money from one person and then give that money to someone else. We have to pay taxes for our military, police, firemen, government employees and the bastards that we elect to office. In other words, we should only pay taxes for legitimate functions of government. Social welfare and redistribution of wealth are not legitimate functions of government. This is just one area where Fedzilla has exceeded it’s constitutional authority.
hat tip: trebor (American Thinker)
Obama LIED Hope DIED.
For the first time in my Adult Life I am Really Ashamed of my government.
Pitchfork Protests.
From MommaE blog radio:
Hi,
I just want to tell you that tonight’s show is on!! We are going to bring up some things about Obama and it will be open lines for you to call in and tell us something you want to talk about concerning Obama, ask questions or make your comments on anything about the Usurper that has broken into 1600 Pennsylvania Ave! SO PLEASE CALL IN AND PARTICIPATE IN THE SHOW!!
All kinds of good things to talk about and it will be 60 minutes of hot topics, updates and fun. It should be a HOT rocking show, as well as interesting.
Please post this on your web site, blogs or any blogs you are associated with or have access to and send to everyone in your address book.
Link, schedule, call in number and times for the Show is below!
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I hope to see you all there. There are 3 ways to listen to the show, they are as follows:
1. When you get to the Show page if the show doesn’t immediately start playing for you, you can click on the radio on the right, minimize the page and listen while doing something else.
2. You can enter the chat as a Guest and read what is being said while listening.
3. You can register/log-in and chat while listening.
The choice is yours.
I hope to see you all there.
MommaE and Matt
Have y’all seen WND about Health Records on Sale….
Here’s what I think about it. When you have a doctor, then it’s a doctor-patient privilege just like an attorney-client privilege. No go for me! I’ll die on the side of the road somewhere because I no longer trust doctors anyway or the AMA. This just sucks for every American. It’s not that I would want to hide what I’m sick with, however, it’s none of their business. For example, what if I get a brain tumor and I only want my family to know?
They can take their medicine and shove it.
Kim, I bet they have “scrubbed” the site
already. Patriots need to always make copies first in the probable event the obots who are as
paranoid as their cult leader will have it removed. I had the same difficulty, but as
surmising what happened.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510937,00.html
NO to the UN, NO to the hoax of global warming!!!
3/27/2009: Pakistan Civil Service Website: Obama Listed As “Kenyan” Born:
For those interested in a site that comes out of Pakistan, there is information there that will raise eyebrows to say the least. Go to the URL listed below and start to scroll down the column listed under Current Affairs. Go down the list till you come to “Presidents” go slow till you find President of the US…Obama is listed…read where they say he was born…I have no further comment on this. it is up to the reader to make any determination. Just remeber this, the names presented are verified names and positions by documents and internal verification. Posted as reference for the people. Interesting to say the least.
The Intro reads:
Welcome CSSforum.com.pk, a complete resource for CSS competitive examination and information about Pakistan civil service. The website serves as a free resource to help and guide CSS aspirants.
The URL:
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html?highlight=obama+kenyan
President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko (Apr 2008)
President of Uzbekistan Islam Karimov (Apr 2008)
President of UAE Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahayan (Apr 2008)
President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party (Since 20th Jan 2009)
President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez (Apr 2008)
When I looked at the site earlier, it had Obama born in Kenya. How so quaint!!!
>When I looked at the site earlier, it had Obama born in Kenya. How so quaint!!!<
yep, and now they have scrubbed it from that. I tried to take a screen shot earlier, but I couldn’t get it to get the whole thing because I haven’t done that before. I work all the time and haven’t had a reason to even do that at all.
I hope someone somewhere got it. Maybe they could succeed.
speedy (March 27, 2009 at 9:55 am) wrote:
The Pakistani Federal Gov Recruitment Test lists Obama, not just a foreign born; but not even as a Citizen of the U.S.
http://www.fpsc.gov.pk/icms/user/jobs.php
About the site
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html?highlight=obama+kenyan
Test Answers
President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)
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Now “(Kenyan born)” has been deleted from the original line “President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)” quoted by speedy, and a statement below the list reads:
“Last edited by Last Island : 3 Hours Ago at 03:20 AM.”
Kenya was in red as was obama. Probally a set up.
Surprise NBC – GO VOTE
Here’s our chance to let the media know where We the People stand on our faith in God, as a nation.
NBC is taking a poll on whether “In God We Trust” should stay on our American currency.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
..DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
What do you need to know to work for the Pakistani Government? What do you need to know to work for the Pakistani Government?
According the April 10, 2008 New York Times, the Obama campaign staff stated: ‘Mr. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981, on the way back from Indonesia, where his mother and half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, were living. He spent ‘about three weeks’ there, Mr. Obama’s press secretary, Bill Burton, said, staying in Karachi with the family of a college friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, but also traveling to Hyderabad, in India.’ That information is significant for two reasons. First and foremost is the fact that Mohammed Hasan Chandoo is a radical Muslim who with his relatives operate a website that is anti-Semitic and anti-American and supports radical Islamic politics.
Many young fundamentalist Muslim ‘scholars’ have traveled to Hyderabad to witness what they believed was stolen from Islam by India’s Hindu majority. Karachi is favored by young radical Muslims because Pakistan was the first former British colony that abandoned English common law for Islamic law following the coup d’etat of General Mohammed Zia who overthrew the democratically elected government of Ali Bhutto in the late 1970s. Barack Obama admitted that he traveled to Karachi while under military rule of madman and dictator General Zia.
A few posters here at Defendourfreedoms.us found a Pakistani forum where an Assistant Director of the Emigration & Overseas Employment for Pakistan’s Test & Scrutiny Wing of the Federal Public Service Commission posts. He posts information to help students that want to apply to work for the Pakistani Federal goverment study and pass their tests.
Click to access 95-2008-PS.pdf
One forum thread Mr. Safdar Mehmood contributed to the forum was the lists of world leaders. On this list for the United States is: “President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)”. Who would know Obama’s origins better than Pakistan? His mother lived and worked there. Obama was able to enter and spend 3 weeks there during a period of Martial Law. And, in order to work for the government of Pakistan, one’s general knowledge must now include the understanding that the United States is ruled by a Kenyan born, Constitutionally invalid occupant.
Make no mistake that Pakistan would be confused by what our Constitutional Laws are. Their citizens have to have a thorough understanding of every countries laws, in particular, the world leaders. The PDFs loaded on the Federal Public Service Commission website include thorough overviews of Constitutional Law, International Relations, History of all the world leader countries including the U.S. and more.
PDFs
Accountancy and Auditing Paper I
Accountancy and Auditing Paper II
Agriculture
Applied Mathematics Paper I
English Literature Paper I
English Precis and Composition
European History Paper I
European History Paper II
Forestry
General Knowledge Everyday Science
General Knowledge Current Affairs
Geography Paper I
Geology Paper I
Geology Paper II
History of USA
International Law
Islamiat
Islamic History and Culture Paper II
Journalism
Mercantile Law
Muslim Law and Jurisprudence
Persian Paper II
Philosophy Paper I
Physics Paper I
Physics Paper II
Political Science Paper II
Psychology Paper II
Zoology Paper II
Applied Mathematics Paper II
Arabic I
Arabic II
Balochi
British History Paper I
British History Paper II
Business Administration
Chemistry Paper II
Economics Paper I
Chemistry Paper I
Botany Paper I
Botany Paper II
Economics Paper II
English Literature Paper II
Essay
Geography Paper II
Islamic History and Culture Paper I
Law Paper II
Persian Paper I
Philosophy Paper II
Political Science Paper I
Psychology Paper I
Pure Mathematics Paper I
Pure Mathematics Paper II
Sociology
Statistics
Urdu Paper I
Urdu Paper II
Zoology Paper I
Computer Science
Constitution Law
General Knowledge Pakistan Affairs
History of Pakistan and India Paper I
History of Pakistan and India Paper II
International Relations
Law Paper I
Public Administration
Punjabi
Pushto
Sindhi
Yes, all of those PDFs to study to work for the Pakistani government. Look what our EEO policies gives us in our government. No, absolutely no mistake, Pakistan knows Obama’s origins. And they know the laws of our land. I’ve no doubt this information will be in Pakistan’s advantage
TO: LM // March 27, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Thanks for the Heads up.
I went and VOTED and here are the current Results:
Should the motto “In God We Trust” be removed from U.S. currency?
13,225,185 responses
Yes. It’s a violation of the principle of separation of church and state.
13%
No. The motto has historical and patriotic significance and does nothing to establish a state religion.
87%
Not a scientific survey. Click to learn more. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.
So far a LANDSLIDE for the Constitutionalists a huge loss for the EROSIONISTS.
TAKE ACTION:
Go here and VOTE:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
Better than my idea of giving each American or family one million dollars. How simple to solve this problem. We do have so much wealth in this country.
This was an article from the St. Petersburg Times Newspaper on Sunday.
The Business Section asked readers for ideas on “How Would You Fix the
Economy?” I thought this was the BEST idea….I think this guy nailed it!
Dear Mr. President,
Patriotic retirement:
There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force – Pay them
$1 million apiece severance with the following stipulations:
1. They retire immediately. Forty million job openings – Unemployment
fixed.
2. They buy NEW American cars. Forty million cars ordered – Auto
Industry fixed.
3. They either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis
fixed.
It can’t get any easier than that!
P. S. If more money is needed, have all members in Congress and their
constituents pay their taxes…
TO: Rocknee // March 27, 2009 at 10:31 pm
That is a pretty expensive fix. Fuzzy Math.
If 40 million people retire and get 1 million each that is 40 TRILLION dollars.
Are you sure Geithner wasn’t in Florida that day?
So far a LANDSLIDE for the Constitutionalists a huge loss for the EROSIONISTS.
TAKE ACTION:
Go here and VOTE:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/
Orly has a screen shot of the Pakistani site:
http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/27/what-do-you-need-to-know-to-work-for-the-pakistani-government.aspx
If any of you watched Hannity tonight you like myself will now have a much stronger REASON to believe the seriousness of what is going on in this country. Sarah Carter tonight revealed how Hezbolah is infiltrating the United States,using the Mexican drug smuggling routes. If enough of the Hezbolah BASTARDS are allowed to get into this country,and form up into a large group you will eventually see mass murder on such a scale that it will be incomprehensible. All of the BULLS### that is going on now about natural born citizen, and all is going to seem like childish bickering,when compared to reality of a Hezbolah presence in this country. If all of Ms.Carter’s allegations are accurate everybody had better start a rigid infantry boot camp training. You will need to HAVE a weapons cache, and an ammo dump. You will need to be proficient with a number of both defensive, and offensive weapons. Most of all you will need to learn combat strategy, and tactics. If you are INCAPABLE of defending yourself against people like Hezbolah you ARE going to meet your maker. It could happen even sooner that anyone believes. Because of our financially weakened state, and the present level of confusion, it would be an ideal time for an enemy like Hezbolah to strike. Even seasoned veterans have no conception of the level of carnage that THIS enemy is prepared to carry out. They are brainwashed to believe that we are all INFIDELS, and therefore should die. We face a probability of the DEMOCRATIC LUNATIC LEFT joining the Hezbolah, because they don’t know up from down ,or left from right. and worse yet they think that they are right, and believe people like Hezbolah are real nice people.Don’t forget to say your prayers in EARNEST to GOD, because we all are going to need his help. It will be ONE HELL of a fight,and a lot of blood is going to run in the gutters. Anybody who thinks this is BULLS###, then I simply say “Wait then, and see.” Sadly when you see the truth a rifle muzzle will be at your head. Too late then!.
Rocknee (March 27, 2009 at 9:34 pm) said:
“Kenya was in red as was obama. Probally a set up.”
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That’s because at the end of the URL those words were designated red. When you delete the URL’s question mark (?) and the words “highlight=obama+kenyan” you will still get to that site, but the red highlighting will not be there.
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html?highlight=obama+kenyan
That brings up the question WHO put those words in red deliberately so that they would be noticed. Is someone in Pakistan playing games with US citizens?
Okay so if Dick Cheney gave Obama’s BC to Biden, what was Cheney saying to Joe, that he’s the President? That he knows? And if Cheney knows, why doesn’t he say something?
On second thought, maybe the person who provided the URL added “?highlight=obama+kenyan” to it in order to help readers spot it. If that’s the case, the Pakistani compiler of the list did not do it.
Something strange here. I added a second thought to my post above (that perhaps the person who provided the URL, and not the Pakistani, is the one who added the code for the red highlighting just to facilitate finding it), but my post evaporated, did not appear. Same thing happened earlier this evening regarding the same subject. Maybe I’m a ghostwriter. LOL
Oops, sorry for jumping to concussions. 🙂
Rocknee…………….
Hassan Chandoo was also one of the MANAGERS of Obama’s Small Contributions Fund, in the campaign. Many people quickly caught on to what was going on and filed a formal complaint against the Obama campaign, with the Federal Election Commission. To date NOTHING has been done, to even investigate the complaint. The largest volume of money was being electronically transferred from offshore, and was suspected of coming from NADHMI AUCHI who is a IRAQI BILLIONAIRE, and a friend of GUESS WHO………REZKO! The money was beig broken down into $250.00 ALLEGED donations, then attached to a name taken from a telephone directory, and then entered into the fund. Guess what>>>>NO ACCOUNTABILITY because these wre contributions of $250.00 or less that he doesn’t have to account for by law. CUTE huh? I would call that Chicago mob, type of behavior.
Ron Paul Revolution!!!Awesome!
Everyone don’t seem to realise that Soetoro is cut from the SAME bolt of cloth as was the “9-11, 20” yet we watched all of the dizzy females on television during the campaign, weep with JOY as Obama verbalised his “professionally written” speeches. The audience had forgotten about 9-11. completely. Nor did they even think that he might in some way be ONE OF THEM. This is one of the reasons why we now have this animal pretending to be the POTUS. They all thought that he was going to give them a FREE LIVING.
oldsalt76,
one of those weeping women was part of the online townhall, or whatever they called this staged BS.
I saw the clip on FOX today.
She asked BO when those jobs are going to come back to the US.
No kiddin’. I mean those people really actually believed in this crap he was reading from the teleprompter.
Obama was stunned too.
After he recovered from being speechless he said that those jobs might not come back, but we will create some really good new jobs in solar technology.
Wow!
CW, I received this from Andy Martin:
~~JUST PRAYING THAT IT TURNS OUT AS “GOOD” AS IT SOUNDS!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Birth certificate conference” will invite Obama to attend
From: News from ContrarianCommentary.com (contact@contrariancommentary.com)
Sent: Wed 3/25/09 2:06 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
A National Conference on Barack Obama’s Missing Birth Certificate is preparing to invite President Obama or his representative to attend,” stated conference Executive Director Andy Martin today. The invitation is being prepared and has not yet been sent. A “Big Surprise” for Obama is planned for the April 3-4 meeting in the nation’s capital.
Committee of One Million to Defeat Barack Obama
Headquarters mail:
Andy Martin, J. D.
Professor of Law (Adj.)
Executive Director
Post Office Box 1851
New York, NY 10150-1851
Tel. (866) 706-2639
Fax (866) 707-2639
Google cache of the scrubbed page
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:mif1pIcXwd4J:www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html+http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/general-knowledge-quizzes-iq-tests/21285-fpsc-recruitment-tests.html&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Tonight Dr Orly Taitz appeared on a local TV show in Santa Maria, CA.
Show (On Second Thought) was hosted by William Wagener on Comcast public channel 25. Show was great. Good job. New BHO material was discussed. I believe reruns will be made over the next few days. Don’t know if show will be run on Youtube, but will check it out.
Will keep you posted.
OK, here’s my prediction.
Obama and tax cheat Geithner will attend the G20 meeting in a couple of weeks (April, I believe). They will return and announce that they have agreed to go with the world currency and WHY.
America will revolt.
(This is exactly what they want to happen!)
Obama declares Martial Law.
(That’s why!)
So if you haven’t already stocked up on protein bars, lots and lots of water, ravioli and soups in those microwave cans, flashlights, mouthwash, toilet paper, paper towels, plastic cups, dishes, knives and forks, and all other things you would normally take camping ……. the time is now.
I really do not think we have more than a couple of weeks. What do you think?
SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COME.I FEEL IT TOO.
nation and world briefs
Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans
Denver Post Wire Report
Posted: 03/27/2009 12:30:00 AM MDT
Updated: 03/27/2009 12:58:19 AM MDT
CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation’s most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.
The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.
“It was mostly under the radar,” Williams said. “We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn’t know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community.”
Anyone looking in on this site would think you had gone mad.
An individual identifying himself as a civil servant from Pakistan posts information on his web site to help other applicants pass the Pakistan civil service test. He lists Barack Obama as the President of the United States, and says he was born in Kenya. Immediately, the blogs fill will glee, misattributing the post to the Government of Pakistan. Orly picks up on the furor. She conducts a blog search which includes the words Obama and Kenya. The search results are shown in red. Now readers, evidently unfamiliar with search mechanisms, see this red and speculate on what motivated the highlights.
Meanwhile, BO is about to claim financial emergency allows him to circumvent Congress to bail out the banks, with your money.
‘Move on; nothing to see here.’
Regarding my earlier post relating to Hezbolah infiltration………..Nepolitano says that there is NO problem at our borders. I am wondering what DRUG she is ingesting. Of course when we look at ALL of the Obama apointees it becomes clear …….. they all match. Their brains appear to be in their backsides,……..if they have one at all. Somebody better get a lot of trained military personell on the border very soon. Spotting infiltrators will be a tough row to hoe. To adequately seal off the Mexican border it would probably require at least two divisions of either US Marines,or US Army, or both. They also need to be advised that if the infiltrators fight then we “Take no prisoners”and to HELL with what the rest of the world thinks about it. WE protect our own country. By the way isn’t that what Israel is also trying to do? Look how LONG they have been doing it. With our present PRETENDER at the helm it is doubtful that he will allow a shot to be fired at our Hezbolah enemies. My guess is that he will be too busy clawing his way under his desk to COWER.
Dianehind………….
I can’t help wonder why Obama is wanting to add so many MUSLIMS, after all it was his OWN words that he had intended to add as many Americans as he could. Could it be that once again we are hearing a TWISTED meaning to the PRETENDER’S words? Isn’t this the same behavior that we have seen from him since day one?
TO: oldsalt76 // March 28, 2009 at 7:48 am
Dianehind………….
I can’t help wonder why Obama is wanting to add so many MUSLIMS, after all it was his OWN words that he had intended to add as many Americans as he could. Could it be that once again we are hearing a TWISTED meaning to the PRETENDER’S words? Isn’t this the same behavior that we have seen from him since day one?””
Great comment oldslat76.
AT this time I think it is HELPFUL for all to AGAIN visit this site and see Obama’s Life Timeline. After you read it all that he is doing will become very clear. All his life he has ASSOCIATED with MUSLIMS/ARABS & American & Democracy Haters.
There is a planned takeover of the “Great Devil” (America) and all others INFIDELS without firing a shot. INFILTRATE the INFIDELS.
CAUTION, CAUTION…EXTREME CAUTION America MultiCulturalism is NUKING the MELTINGPOT.
Yes we CON, Yes we CON, Yes we CON.
Read Obama’s Timeline here (there are now 2) after you wil see the DANGER very clear:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/10/26/the-obama-timeline-1961-2008/
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER.
This is no President it’s a DOUBLE AGENT.
Ron Paul at the “Campaign for Liberty”
March 27th, St. Louis
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/87845
jbjd
the route to BHO – saotao is thru the court system, the judicial branch and eventually the SC.
you can’t deny that. that is the end game.
unless we get 10,000 ” + to scour the islands of hawaii
any volunteers?
Watch this!
The guy with the realistic view already moved to Singapore I think.
The FOX business woman is totally in denial.
Very extreme case of “But we are the leader of the world”.
Miss America living in the 80s.
The FOX business lady should probably read the newspaper Afshin Rattansi holds up.
The top three banks in the world are Chinese now. Oppose to ten years ago when they were American.
http://maxkeiser.com/2009/03/25/max-keiser-afshin-rattansi-on-obamas-1-trillion-plan/
jbjd // March 28, 2009 at 7:13 am
And I totally agree with You.
All thet stuff we know about Obamas ineligibility. Useless information.
The whole system is corrupt.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92707
Protests likely to hit U.S. this summer.
Move on to where the real crime is comitted:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0413/096-sachs-semgroup-goldman-goose-oil.html
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/may-instant-global-phenom-daniel-hannans-words-not-fall-on-deaf-ears/
Daniel Hannan’s parliamentary address to his PM has gone viral and with good reason. Watch the clips on this link. He might as well have been speaking to Obama.
jbjd, A fraud case, using California’s election laws, could possibly bring out Soetoro’s identity, and ineligibility. Clearly, the laws have been broken, and based on the information, learned about the many names Barry has used, it looks as if Barry’s lawyers will really have to scramble when this suit is brought to the courts in California.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice
A damn good piece, its now made it to RCP. This is a must read for the nation.
The Alien among us
I love Lame Cherries articles. Does anyone know who he is?
History in the making
Looks like the Grand Jury is under way !!!
I wish I had known!! I live 40 minutes away from the Grand Jury meeting place!
Can anyone tell us what their decisions will mean?
Here is an excellent website listing all the fax number of our senators and reprentatives in Washington. I think their email addresses are all listed there too.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Please make it a point to FAX and/or email at least 2 to 5 people a day to express your views.
Media Matters and other liberal orgs are urging all their members to do that and we definitely need to keep up our own contacting every single day.
Shouldn’t we be writing letters to all the Wall Street and bank people Obama is picking on with his new 90% tax law and all the others?
We need to CONTACT (write, email, fax, call) anyone who might say, “Wait a minute! He can’t do this to me! He’s a usurper!”
And then challenge his ability to have signed that particular bill that affects them into law!
The Obama would have to produce a birth cert to prove he was eligible to begin with.
But of course rather than do that he will either declare Martial Law or cause havoc on our nation in another way using all his Muslim friends – you know what I mean.
It seems we are perhaps damned if we do and damned if we don’t. BUT, we still need to yell and scream and kick — and write/email/call/fax. It DOES help.
A comment I found at MaxKeiser.com
Dangereaux
“Here’s a breakdown of team obama
http://tinyurl.com/bx37fx
Max on Caffeine? Got to be more than that!
Goldman is the real “Resident Evil” in America(you can use that)
I work on the trading floor where Santelli works. I see him having a smoke all the time. Anyway there was a story going around about Goldman loading up on Bond Calls leading up to the quantitive easing statement by Bernake…they put a short squeeze on premium sellers once it started higher it took a life all it’s own as option locals scrambled to hedge their shorts….these guys play us like a fiddle….but ya’ gotta love the volitility”
The story in the link is from end January, but nevertheless worth reading.
This is may be linked to a news lead last week on a Canadian televison network warning that 10 million computers worldwide will be infected April 1, 2009. Given the date, this could be a hoax, but Canadian companies are exercising caution.
Another comment had a good set of links.
here:
There was a good Bill Moyers Journal last night with William Greider for anyone that missed it. In general, the interview focused on the Federal Reserve, the unholy Wall Street-Washington alliance, the Geithner banking plan, and democracy. It’s here: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03272009/watch2…
Pitchforks for everybody! London is rocking today with protesters. Their example needs to be followed and repeated across the globe.
Nationwide protests are being organized in the US for April 11th:
http://www.anewwayforward.org/demonstrations/
A less focused March on Wall Street is also being planned for April 3 & 4:
http://www.bailoutpeople.org/
Read letter written by concerned Citizen
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
Dont’t know how to copy and post
needs to be copied and posted and pass on
http://www.michaelgraham.com/post/2009/03/28/We-Did-It!.aspx
Ayers disinvited.
http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/03/28/letter-to-obama.aspx
MB, I think this is what you want isn’t it?
Speech: YouTube “Patriot” Summoned to White House to Explain his “Call to Action”.
http://james4america.wordpress.com/
Yes.thanks.This letter would be great sent to
GM,AIG,BANK OF AMERICA,CITIGROUP,
HANNITY,GLENN BECK,OREILLY.
LOU DOBBS,CARL ROVE,NEUT GINGRICH,
FAX THIS TO CONGRESS AND ANY INFLUNENCIAL PEOPLE SAVAGE,LEVINE,
LORA INGRAM, NOTRE DAME
could fax this ????
has everyone read the lame cherry article posted by “The South”. It blows away all of the Obot theories as to Barry’s eligibility and clearly shows what we all know. NOT QUALIFIED! IS AN USURPER, AND A FRAUD.
Bob read Citizen letter that needs to be faxed all over
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
can it be posted her ??
I read the letter, it is a good one. I wonder which obot staffer will be the first one to hide it from it’s intended addressee.
Yes.thanks.This letter would be great sent to
GM,AIG,BANK OF AMERICA,CITIGROUP,
HANNITY,GLENN BECK,OREILLY.
LOU DOBBS,CARL ROVE,NEUT GINGRICH,
FAX THIS TO CONGRESS AND ANY INFLUNENCIAL PEOPLE SAVAGE,LEVINE,
LORA INGRAM, NOTRE DAME
ANDY MARTIN
NATIONAL CONF APRIL 3-4
could fax this ????
Obama has been indicted by the Grand Jury in Georgia!!!!!
The Beginning of the End
CITIZEN LETTER SENT TO HOLDER,OBAMA,
RNC.DNC, ETC REQUESTING MANY DOCUMENTS.
http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
The South, please send the lame cherry article, link, to the defendourfreedoms.us site. That is the best explanation yet ,of where “Obama” fits into the big picture.
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janet
“Shouldn’t we be writing letters to all the Wall Street and bank people Obama is picking on with his new 90% tax law and all the others?”
no no no and no
Wall Steet (Solomon Bros., Lehman Bros. , Goldman Saches, etc. LOOK AT THE NAMES…all liberals alll Jews….ALL DEMOCRATS) . These guys SUPPORT OBAMA big time, don’t think it is otherwise. They will support him UNTIL they realize that he is OUT TO GET THEM (note who is OBAMA’s chief of STAFF, what is his name? EMANUAL??). So far BS has not betrayed them yet, but he will and SOON. The time is NOT ripe to play that card.
bob strauss,
I couldn’t find an email addy on that site? If anyone knows the email addy, feel free to send that Lame Cherry article from the link above.
oh sorry
i misunderstood
delete the last post
Interesting history andinsight into the common law grand jury:
http://riseupforamerica.com/
We’re in for a rocky ride people…….
Bet the MSM wont cover this historical event
jbjd
“Meanwhile, BO is about to claim financial emergency allows him to circumvent Congress to bail out the banks, with your money”
that is TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, furthermore BS created the crisis.
This is why we teach governmental separation of powers. Money bills originate in the House of Representatives. Since when does the POTUS ‘draft legislation’? This is what giving the Secretary of the Treasury such broad powers amounts to. We should be knocking on the doors of our elected officials constantly reminding them, how government is supposed to work. And we should be making sure our fellow citizens understand, too. Because we will need their votes in 2010.
da verg, even assuming these names are Jewish, what on earth possessed you to point this out?
jbjd,
I thought the Jews were post to be our friends!
Obama will not be able to placate the world anymore than he has been able to with Americans.
His words which he values as his most important instrument will ring hollow and will be .devoid of convincing content. The international media have already poignantly undressed Obama, much more than at home.
It will be an interesting week.
How do you think the foreign heads of state will feel dealing with a usurper who’s word means nothing.
GRAND JURY INDICTS OBAMA—-
Great Headlines!!!!!!!!!!
Glad to hear it!!!!!!!!
Go Georgia!!!!!!!!!
jbjd
When the National Grand Jury indicts someone, does the govt authorizes The People to correct the problem. If obama is indicted what will the proper procedure be?
Lame Cherry:
“I was pondering for a few seconds in just how Scotland Yard and MI5, MI6 are going to handle the meeting of Barack Hussein Obama with the Queen.
The reason being is Obama’s grandfather in Kenya was a terrorist who was in on the murdering of British subjects in the 1950’s uprising. Then there is his cousin Prime Minister Odinga who was in on burning Christians alive in his rise to the top of the Kenyan cesspool.
As one looks around, there is Bill Ayers blowing people up and having Jew girls raped by black thugs. Obama’s new friends in terrorist Hamas, terrorist Hezbollah, terrorist Syria, terrorist Taliban, terrorist al Qaeda, terrorist Cuba and terrorist Persian Islamocommunists.
I realize America will elect a rapist and terrorist as they will elect anything which smiles, but how does British Security give a pass to Birdie sitting with the Queen when in 100 out of 100 cases if this guy was Bhuto Obama from Pakistan they would have SWAT on him in a second.
That is the confusing thing in this age as even Aaron Burr Biden sowing discontent with Chilean communists was pleading for a chance with the G 20 protesters.
That baffles me as one can see that the protesters are Obama’s voters both legal and illegal and his donors both legal and illegal. I mean take a look at their signs about hating America, hating Bush, hating Americans, burning American flags and looking like they watch Oprah 24 hours a day…….you can just tell these unkempt, weird protesters are Obama’s people.”
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That’s so true, Obama meets his voters.
Who is he gonna blame for everything?
He just wants to be loved, we know.
Leadership? Not so much his thing.
Easy click to the article:
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-banner.html
Hi, Citizen Wells —
I offer my sincere congratulations to drkate — thumbs up to you, girl
THE TROJAN HORSE HAS COME TO WASHINGTON
IT IS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
http://nosheepleshere.blogspot.com/2009/03/from-now-on-we-people-will-be-writing.html
From Now On, WE THE PEOPLE Will Be Writing The Press Releases. The Second American Revolution Has Begun!
‘What follows is an article, no actually, a dream thread that was posted over at Texas Darlin. It has generated a great many comments. People are sick and tired of what is going on in our nation’s capital. The shine is off Dear Leader’s star and people are fed up with the corruption of our lawmakers and this Administration’s flagrant disregard for We The People.
From now on, we’re writing the press releases. And taking all the names, titles, and language back that have been used against us. The Second American Revolution has begun.
This is your dream thread in helping to design the most effective mass demonstration in the history of the United States. Yes, we will need money, but let’s not think about that now. How do we pull all of our efforts together? Thank you in advance!’
Permission for cross-posting of this article was granted by the author.
FREE AMERICA! RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!
© 2009 by Dr.Kate/drkate4justice
Hi CW hope all is well. Have you seen the latest YouTube ” Thomas Paine’s American Revolution”? It was stated that Dr. Bob Basso was summoned to the White House ect… While you search for it.. notice common sense.. and week ago.. God Bless America !!!
Has anyone been getting weird emails from
Bank of America and Citigroup??
I don’t have accounts with Bank of America but I do have my mortgage through Citimortgage.
Emails are stating that accounts have been locked!Whats going on?
GBAMERICA // March 28, 2009 at 10:13 pm
That is spam, since the real banks never do emails, always mail.
Hit the reply button and see what email adress comes up, betcha it’s not the bank.
They want Your information for fraud etc.
gb america
spamsters trying to get your ID
ignore it
jbjd
i said to delete the post
i was thinking about something else
on a hebrew , biblical level
What happens next with the Grand Jury indictment?
OS76. In response to BHO contemplation of hiring Muslims. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Obama is a Closet Muslim. In fact I’m so sure I had bumper stickers made up saying “Obama, Closet Muslim”. I proudly drive my truck with this bumper sticker. I’m just waiting to get pulled over!
While I’m at it. Why are all the radio and tv netwits (Savage excluded) afraid of exposing the fraud Obama. I find that if blogger Berlin’s theory is correct ie., “fear of riots”, than much work needs to be done to educate liberals. This includes all avenues of communication. Most strangers that I talk to are totally unaware of what is going on. We need to get the ball rolling now!
hapnHal // March 28, 2009 at 11:30 pm
OS76. In response to BHO contemplation of hiring Muslims. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Obama is a Closet Muslim. In fact I’m so sure I had bumper stickers made up saying “Obama, Closet Muslim”. I proudly drive my truck with this bumper sticker. I’m just waiting to get pulled over!
While I’m at it. Why are all the radio and tv netwits (Savage excluded) afraid of exposing the fraud Obama. I find that if blogger Berlin’s theory is correct ie., “fear of riots”, than much work needs to be done to educate liberals. This includes all avenues of communication. Most strangers that I talk to are totally unaware of what is going on. We need to get the ball rolling now!
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hapnHal, I’m not about to defend all the chicken azz ‘superstar’ talk radio personalities (Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, etc.) but in defense of Savage, he did have Phil Berg on an extended segment talking about the illegality of this president. At least he had the stones to air a few segments with Atty. Berg.
Not so with the others who won’t go near this issue with a 10 foot pole.
Very much like the phony ‘global warming’ scam. Local Meteorologists in these parts were *not* to mention it if they thought that global warming was a crock, or they’d be in the unemployment line the next day. Conspiracy? Yeah, lots of them around these days!
Obama seeks Muslims for White House posts
Posted: March 28, 2009
11:55 pm Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Washington – Barack Obama is conducting his own affirmative action program to get more Muslims in the White House.
The move began with Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn, who took his oath of office with a hand on the Quran, to solicit the resume
of what he considered to be the nation’s most qualified adherents of Islam.
According to the Denver Post, when White House officials heard about the program, it was put on overdrive.
So far, 45 Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and government officials have been submitted for consideration.
J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, sifted through more than 300 names as part of the search.
“It was mostly under the radar,” Williams said. “We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn’t know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community.”
Ellison is serious about his faith. He made the pilgrimage to Mecca with the sponsorship of the Muslim American Society, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
In 1991, Mohamed Akram wrote a memo for the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood that explained its work in America as “a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93251
And wouldn’t ya know it? Here goes Freedom of Speech, as predicted:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5142
Video Offered for Sale Purports to Show Biden’s Daughter Snorting Cocaine
The New York Post reports a video purporting to show Ashley Biden — daughter of Vice President Joe Biden — snorting cocaine is being offered for sale.
A video purporting to show Ashley Biden — daughter of Vice President Joe Biden — snorting cocaine reportedly is being offered for sale.
The New York Post reports that it was shown a 90-second clip of a 42-minute video by a lawyer claiming to represent an anonymous “friend” of the vice president’s daughter. The lawyer, Thomas Dunlap, and another man say the video shows Biden’s daughter using the drug at a house party this month in Delaware.
Dunlap reportedly told the Post that the video was legally obtained, and that Ashley Biden was aware that she was being filmed. The Post reports that it refused to pay for the video, though Dunlap told the newspaper that one news organization had offered $250 thousand for the rights to the tape.
The Post reported that the video shows a 20-something woman with light skin and long brown hair taking a red straw from her mouth and bending over a desk, inserting the straw into her nostril and snorting from lines of white powder.
The woman appears to resemble the 27-year-old Biden, a social worker who was a visible presence during her father’s campaign for the White House.
Dunlap refused to name the person who shot the video, but told the Post that he knew Ashley Biden well and had attended other parties with her at which there were illegal drugs. The lawyers said the person who shot the video used a camera with a hard-drive that he later destroyed, drilling into the device and tossing it into a lake.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03282009/news/nationalnews/friend_of_bidens_daughter_shopping_tape__161772.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/28/video-offered-sale-purports-bidens-daughter-snorting-cocaine/
Hate to mess up a good weekend but this you will want to read! We have a bunch of crooks in the White House!
http://goodtimepolitics.com/2009/03/29/rahm-emanuels-profitable-stint-at-freddie-mac/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/G20/article5993184.ece
The EU to defeat Obama at G20.
The South // March 28, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Obama has been indicted by the Grand Jury in Georgia!!!!!
The Beginning of the End
sandy // March 28, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I wish I had known!! I live 40 minutes away from the Grand Jury meeting place!
Can anyone tell us what their decisions will mean?
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This site will explain the what this Grand Jury in Ga. can do.
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/sitting_president.htm
This is from the Department of Justics
Obama seems to be GW Bush on steroids. Triple the spending, triple the war effort, triple the arrogance, triple the lying, triple the rudeness, triple the secrets, and triple the use of a teleprompter, in my opinion, of course.
Gholtron,
Here is another site which explains how government has tried to take powers away from the original intent for grand juries:
http://www.cusc.org/editorial/3563.htm
Our enemy is our government.
Hey Betty, I would agree except that I believe that ole George was just clueless….you imply that he was cleverly manipulating the system like Obama….lol…Obama is indeed a lot more dangerous!
When the National Grand Jury indicts someone, does the govt authorizes The People to correct the problem. If obama is indicted what will the proper procedure be?
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Rocknee and all—This is my question as well.
What does the Georgia Grand Jury do next?
Are there other Grand Juries across the nation
going on now? Haven’t heard more on the
formation on GJs. Thanks.
Sandy, The GJ does have special powers but it is limited to what they can do to a sitting President. I echo Maddie’s question. She brings up a good question. What does the Grand Jury do next? They can not subpoena the President AND who will act as a judge? The judge in this GJ can NOT strip the President from his power. Don’t you see what this GJ is doing? It is acting in a way that Congress should be acting.
Citizens letter to BHO COPIES sent TO RNC,DNC HOLDER ETC READ AND BLOG
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
I for the life of me can not understand how we for all these yeaars have not had a problem with the eligibility of a president and now we have a slick talking ….. and nothing can be done! PLEASE.
I refused to believe he is the president because he is and has always and known himself to be ineligible.
Just to prove my point, remember sometime last year when a town in Vermont files impeachment against George Bush when he violated our privacy laws by gathering information from the telecoms? They voted to impeach him. I believe another town in California did the same thing? What happened to them? Nothing. Nothing came out of it.
Now this could be seen as a symbolic act but that will be the extent of this GJ.
Rocknee // March 29, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I for the life of me can not understand how we for all these yeaars have not had a problem with the eligibility of a president and now we have a slick talking ….. and nothing can be done! PLEASE.
I refused to believe he is the president because he is and has always and known himself to be ineligible.
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Ditto here, Rocknee. I view him (and his
“associates”) as a clear and present danger
to our American way of life.
Gholtron, How quaint the first complete sentence in your link:
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/sitting_president.htm
The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
WTH is this all about, the Constitution. Now we gonna follow it. Go crawl back in your hole!!
Rocknee, I did not manufacture this link. This is the findings of the Office of Legal Counsel of the DOJ. Whether you call me names or not, this is the law of the land. Many people here are upset with the process of the court system and they can not see why these cases are not heard. As I said, I believe there are very passion people on this blog that want to understand how to make their case heard or seen. I’ve been trying to point out that this eligibility issues is now beyond the court system. The venue is now in Congress. Whether you call me names or tell me to goto hell is not going to change the law.
This is my post: Maybe you need to re read it!!
Gholtron, How quaint the first complete sentence in your link:
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/sitting_president.htm
The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
WTH is this all about, the Constitution. Now we gonna follow it. Go crawl back in your hole!!
The article I linked clearly defines the purpose of the GJ. It was instituted to protect “We The People” from corrupt government by bypassing the other three branches of government. Since then, various attempts have been made to render the clear wording of the 5th Amendment as null and void. However, this cannot be done with a note or act. It must be done BY AMENDMENT. One cannot change the Constitution, rather, one can fool the public which is what has been done regarding the Grand Jury issue. The editorial I linked earlier explains this.
No matter what legally becomes of the indictment, we need more of these bodies in every nook of this country to bring attention to this matter…..not that the MSM will report it….but the locals will.
We hava a tyrantical usurper who is not even American at the helm of this ship!!!!!!!!!
check this out
dr basso, this is great stuff
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5142
Gholtron
Article 2 says president must be a natural born citizen, that’s the law. Right. Obama put a document on the internet and expected eveyone and their brother to believe it to be valid. A president using the internet. Besides he said he was born a british citizen at birth and if he had a valid HI birth certificate, he would have released it.
Now the law says a NBC, obama knows he is not. Breaking the law, as I see it.
As Denny Crane on Boston Legal said last night, “It’s just that simple.” Now you say it.
The venue is now in Congress.
ghotron- or however you spill your name
no it isn’t , didn’t you see the grand jury and the
QW cases??
Sandy, The only point I agree with you is that more of this must be done as a symbolic process in order for Congress to take note and act. But if you expect the GJ in GA or else where to replace the process of Impeachment that is charged only to Congress then you will be dissappointed. It can not happen.
some toon above trying to equate Constitution eligiblility to this gibberish wrote
“when a town in Vermont files impeachment against George Bush when he violated our privacy laws by gathering information from the telecoms? ”
>>>first off they didn’t do “impeachment” , they tried to get him on crimes against humanity.
left wing out of touch nut jobs, with no basis in the law. Bush had the US constitution AND 17 UN resolutions on his side.
So far OBAMA has nothing on his side. The Russians and Chinese have said he is a joke and not the real president. Pakistan has said as much, so has Kenya which has “sealed” his records. That leads to the next question “what records” . Can you even add two plus two?
And finally our own Constitution says OBAMA is not eligible. He has bought off the judges like don Corleone and he is no more than a thug and gangsta like corleone was.
get it?
what I meant was the venue should be in Congress and not the courts. Thanks for that correction. How many lawsuits are out there now? And how many has seen a day in court? See what I mean?
What does the Grand Jury do next?
>>>there will be a fallout effect on this, the state will take notice, and it will spread like wild fire.
obama is toast.
deal with it. fool for backing this jokester of a fraud, freeking lying half-muli is all he is and he will deserve what he gets, that’s what any vegetable on society deserves — to be baked fried and feathered in parmesian cheese, roasted or grilled
time for lunch
BHO DESIRES TO HIRE MUSLIMS FOR WHITE HOUSE POSTS .ANYONE GET IT YET??
http://WWW.WND.COM
LOL ok da verg. Have it your way. Good luck to you all.
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If the Gholtron is right, maybe the NGJ should be going after a few members of congress for indictments. Wake them up. Maybe then we’ll get an investigation!! Course bet they are immune from indictments.
What is Barry charged with in the Ga. indictment?
Rocknee I don’t believe the members of Congress are immuned from GJ indictments. According to the OLC not even the Vice President. Just the President is immuned.
Everyone CALM down for a second. PLEASE.
Here is what everyone is OVERLOOKING:
If our allegations are PROVEN Correct we are REMOVING a PRIAVTE CITIZEN IMPOSTER PRETENDING TO BE PRESIDENT. A PONZI PREZ and NOT a Sitting President. A Hoax, just like Madoff was a PONZI INVESTOR not an Investor.
I believe Grand Juries have supoena powers and those have to be executed on the Next Grand Juries not just a rush to Convitiction also the Defendant has a right to Defend Himself. Which we know he has no problem in doing they have done it in every court so far.
To make this easier to grasp imagine this:
Let’s say that “obama” used FRAUD & FORGERY to cover up was not the Most Important of the 3 Constitutional Requirements Natural Born Citizen, but the Second Most Important, the age requirement.
Let’s assume he was really only 33 yrs old, which he may well be since we never saw Real Documents, and lied and said he was 43. This is easy to do in this age of Identity Theft and High Quality Forgeries. Keep in mind the Treasury had to redesign our papr money TWICE because it was being FORGED. Also keep in mind the 9/11 Terrorists had 19 Gov’t ID’s and some were even registered to vote and they were Foreigners here on Visas. Imagine what they could do if they had lived in USA since the age of 10 and were college educated community organizers and Members of the Chicago Corrption Cartel and were an elected Politician of the Representing the Communist Party (New Party) i nthe State of Illinois. Let’s also not forget Clark Rockerfeller got away with his FRAUD for many decades.
If his age was the issue what would we do? He would be considered a PRIVATE CITIZEN, not a Sitting President and would be IMMEDIATLY REMOVED .
The same applies to the Most Important issue of the 3 Presidential Qualification Requirements, Natural Born Citizen. Not only is he NOT Natural Born Citizen he may actually be a Foreigner. If during Bush’s Presidency we found out he was really Mexican and not an American what would happen? IMMEDIATE REMOVAL.
Obama is not above the LAW. If he is proven to not be QUALIFIED he is NOT a Sitting President at best he is a Private Citizen and what the extreme he is a Foreign Illegal ENEMY that assumed the Presidency.
He may be qualified or he may not be, it is for us to have a look see. He is happens to be qualified no harm no fault and we can all support our president BUT what if it turns out differently.
Err on the side of Caution. rust but Verify.
Protests are gearing up in London for the G20 against Obama trying to get European leaders to do as he is doing to us!
Are we doing as much as they are to protest? We the people are all of us against the NWO and those that are trying to enslave us!!!
Da verg
If this is true I hope he wears a hazmat suit and doesn’t eat or drink anything offered to him.
Gholtron, it sounds to me, you say that you are OK with Barry being an usurper, and a fraud, and even though he is guilty, the obots have won, and there is nothing the law can do to remove him from usurping the presidency. I ask only one question of you. Are you an American citizen?
Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco ,
First he was elected to office by the people whether you believe it was legal or not.
Second, Congress certified the votes on Jan 8th
Third, the Chief Justice swore him in on January 20th. By that definition Obama is sitting in the office of the President.
Even if he is not NBC, he is sitting in the office of the President. The Supreme Court will recognize him as The President. The Constitution is very VERY clear about how to remove him. You or anyone has NOT proven in the eyes of any body of government that he is not eligible to be President. Congress has to do that. Even if you have suddenly found more concrete evidence that he is not, The Supreme Court will not hear the case because they are powerless to do anything. Even if you had video of Obama committing a crime, Congress has to file the indictment known as an Impeachment. No matter what the crime you say that he has committed, the ONLY body of government that can remove him from office is Congress.
I don’t know why anyone even bothers with the Gholtroll.
bob Struss, you are completely missing my point. I do support him but you are missing my point. You have not read all of my post on this site.
And Bob, yes I am an American citizen. Even though I disagree, I do support your right to be heard.
Bob,
I have been reading all of Goltron’s comments for 2 days. It is my opinion this constatant blatherings of disagreements over Potus are redundant! Gholtron? People in this forum are devoted patriots. There is nothing you can argue that will change any opinions in here. I suggest you move on to another blog that will embrace your interpretations and beliefs. I myself am growing weiry of your BS! You are taking up precious space on this long thread!
I love the new video by Dr. Bob Basso.. Him as Thomas Paine’s American Revolution. It needs to be shown on every Television Station around America. Keep up the fight my fellow American’s… lets do our founding Fathers Proud. God Bless America. Stay Safe.
OK Kathy You guys win. I promise to not say anything else. I will just watch from the sideline each and every time these cases are shot down from the courts. As I said before. Good luck.
How can you support that, which breaks the law of the Constitution’s NBC clause, and the fraud perpetrated on the citizens of this country by claiming to be eligible to hold office?
Gholtron is correct in saying, the Congress is where the action is. However, in order to persuade Congress to act to remove the POTUS, we have several avenues of recourse. For example, what if the AG from one state, investigating the complaints received from the voters of that state, “found” that, the Democratic Party failed to establish BO was a NBC before causing state officials to put his name on their general election ballot? (Recognize that this does not say, he is or is not a NBC; or that, the DNC fraudulently conveyed the fact, he is a NBC before submitting his name to get onto the state ballot.)
As for dismissing Gholtron because he is an admitted supporter of BO, well, this is just bad manners. Over half of the voters who cast votes in the last election supported him. They are entitled to their votes, just as are those of us who voted otherwise. Besides, on a practical level, if we want to change people’s minds, what better way than to encourage those people to read our comments and consider another point of view.
I choose not to convert people by intimidation but by reason. It takes more time but, the results are longer lasting.
Gholtron,
As a parting thought, consider this. To continue with your line of argument is equivalent to a person who has just been raped and told by the courts there is no existing legal venue for redress.
You underestimate the resourcefulness and resilience of humanity. I wish you good luck.
Gholtron
FACT , the elections were rigged and FEC has this recorded , read the FEC reports, total fraud……
The oath was given the third time in a secret private meeting, therefore it was invalid.
The congress knows he’s a usurper …………
We all know he’s a criminal and a usurper.
I agree no court will ever remove him from office……….
Congress has to impeach a President first before he can be removed from office.
A usurper can not be impeached.
jbjd, How many of those people, that voted for Soetoro, knew that he was ineligible to be President? His vote total would have been considerably less if the voters had know the truth. Whether the voters know it ,or not, they were defrauded. Now we need to figure out how to void the election that was obviously fraudulent, in all 50 states.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.9849350f816804a357829631f0fd7a21.51&show_article=1
Here’s the story re: cyberworm on April 1, 2009 I posted earlier.
bob strauss and everyone, very few people who know the Constitutional requirements for POTUS and voted for BO say, they would have voted for him regardless of whether he is a NBC. But they just don’t believe, he is not a NBC. I tend to argue that, nothing in the record we have seen establishes, he is a NBC. Further, I argue that, people who have claimed the record establishes he is a NBC, including BO, are lying. And then I tell them about HI law. Finally, I ask (rhetorically) whether they suppose BO knows HI law allowed foreign births to be registered in HI, when he claimed on his web site, a HI COLB proves that was he was born in HI. (I delay any discussion about the difference between a citizen and a NBC.)
As for using the courts to remove BO from office, remove is a loaded word. For example, if a court hearing a declaratory judgment case that centers around liability under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) Declares BO is not a NBC; this does not require the court to do anything else to remove him from office. But surely, once a federal court issues such a ruling, it won’t be long before BO is out of there, whether at the behest of Congress or, under his own steam.
It is getting out –
http://www.breakthematrix.com/Constitution/Indictment-of-Barack-Hussein-Obama
BTW, was anyone reading this blog a pledged delegate for either BO or HRC? Does anyone know someone who was a pledged delegate for either candidate?
I can’t wait for one of the G-20 members to say to the usurper-“I hear you are a phony and what ever you sign or say is not legal.”
PS – I think CW is about to break a “comment” record. I don’t remember hitting 400 before.
Comment 396 – Come on folks, just 4 more.
jbjd, How many of those people, that voted for Soetoro, knew that he was ineligible to be President?
>>>only those who made up the fake green blob photoshop copy. Every one I talk too, including people in there 80s say things like “I thought he was born in Hawaii….” The lie is deep. TY LSM (lame stream media). The lie is very deep.
ms. helga
>PS – I think CW is about to break a “comment” record. I don’t remember hitting 400 before.\
Shows there is a lot of interest. I don’t know what the end result will be but I’m hopeful
ME TOO EAGLE. ONWARD & UPWARD
I WILL MAKE IT 400- THANK GOD
Hey da verg-Here’s a comment by one Obam supporter who knows the honest truth:
indiana mom commented more than a month ago
live birth certificate or not =he’s a citizen. and his mother DID live here 5 years prior -they weren’t in Kenya that long -her citizenship was always United States -just because she was visiting kenya does not mean she didn’t live in the united States – They granted the certificate based on that -she can’t help where she had the baby -and they don’t take U.S. citizenship away from the baby because mom was somewhere else when she had him -it was done within the given period of time you have to file for the birth certificate in those cases where the mom happens to give birth outside her own country -it’s based on mom -not dad -mom gives birth –
Now I believe this supporter!
ghoutron wrote
First he was elected to office by the people whether you believe it was legal or not.
>>>>the people voted for the electoral college members, get it straight. Then the electoral college members were selected by oBAMa’s own party. I contacted a few , and one response was BS. They didn’t do their job. They were told about his ineligibility and they ignored it , many were grossly neglient, and complicit in this fraud.
Second, Congress certified the votes on Jan 8th
>>>>Pelosi over rode any objections, it’s pretty clear there was no attempt made to give any objections a chance to hit the floor.
Third, the Chief Justice swore him in on January 20th. By that definition Obama is sitting in the office of the President.
>>>>no, again, Chief Justice messed up the public oath. And who knows what happened when they re-did in private.
The oBAMa usurper tyrant is hanging by a thread. And anyone out there , IMHO, can challenge anyone of these issues or better yet the whole of them along with fraud, by various STATE election laws and make a case of it.
But no one has takent this route yet. And you know what? THey can do it without even asking for any documention that OBAMA is trying to hide. They can use it with public information that OBAMA has already stated, even the green blob that points out his father is not a citizen and using a term on that green blob that wasn’t in use in the 1960s. Yep that’s right they picked out a vernacular term that hadn’t been invented yet.
Even if he is not NBC, he is sitting in the office
jbdjd,
You are correct in the fact that Goultron has a right to be heard and his vote counted too. On the other hand, There were 100’s of thousands of anti Obama votes that did NOT get counted!
Kathy
They are entitled to their votes
>>>i disagree, if the candidate de-frauded them, they are entitled to nothing. Futhermore, if the paryt that they belonged too (PEloSi and REiD and Howard Dean) , who are complicit in this cover up, committed fraud – then the party and the people in the party are responsible for their action. The party should be removed , via the FEC, and dissolved. PElosI ReId, ObamA, dEaN, FeInsTein (on FEC ), other DeMs on FEC, etc. should all go to jail. The democratic party would be ruined.
After all,t hey have been saying for years to throw out the Constitution.
I say, throw out the Democratic party and those far left liberal whack jobs in the party who blatently don’t want to follow the law.
throw them all out, let them rot in jail…..bring the santizers for their jail cells will be filled with cooties and STDs.
Where’s my mulijon parmisano? …yummy.
jbjd,
Gholtron is not correct regarding Congress being able to impeach a usurper.
Only the President of the United States can be impeached. Usurpers are not officially POTUS, therefore cannot be impeached based on Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.
An acting usurper is bound by Article II of the U.S. Constitution. Should the DOJ or a Grand Jury determine the usurper to not be president, the U.S. Senate has absolutely no power to impeach based on Article I, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
Since usurping is a criminal offense to which the title is assumed illegally, the DOJ and a Federal Grand Jury have the right to indict, and ultimately remove a criminal from any office to which they were never qualified to begin with.
hey dallas
what you say, still doesn’t make him a natural born citizen. BOTH parents must be US citizens.
Furthermore at the time he was born
(1) obama’s mama was underage and by law could not pass US citizenship to her son via a foreigner. Its the law, sorry, at the time. Do you believe in following the law or not?
(2) obama sr, was NOT a US citizen
(3) Obama jr nona saw him born in Kenya, to a Brittish citizen, that makes OBAMA JR a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF BRITTISH SUBJECTION, not US.
(4) NAtural born citizen age old definition includes one allegience not two.
Imagine what would happen if Hitler, Ahmamidgetman, Kim Il, Chavez, Putin, Qadafi impregnated an American and then that American become president. That is one reason why the framers of the Constitution put in NATURAL BORN CITIZEN clause. Note they did not put in US CITIZEN, they did not put in NATURALIZED CITIZEN, and they did not put in a bunch of 0ther things.
Dallas your obot “friend” obviously doesn’t know the Constitutional requirements, nor the defintion of terms used in the Constitution. They are trying to “justify” after the fact. Do you think for one moment if the people of the USA knew that OBAMA was born in KENYA that they would vote for him for president?
I don’t think so.
Do you furhter know that the KENYA national assembly is in the process of voting in ALLEGIANCES from the USA based upon OBAMA’s kenyan birthright?
All this is a twisted web that could be resolved if OBAMA came clean or one court would rule on the issue instead of shoveling it into the closest or basement and ignoring it like a crazy aunt or elephant in the room that everybody sees but nobody wishes to acknowledge.
IT’s very shameful and pitiful and everyone in the FREAKING WORLD knows it.
Jeff,
Congress sees this man as the official pres. There is nothing we can do about that “they” will only recongize impeachment. Don’t forget, because he still remains a British Citizen, he is subject to UK’s protection and laws, not ours.
Seems like there are 2 laws in my opinion, The Peoples law- The Constitution- and congress’s law-The Parliament.
Jeff,
Congress sees this man as the official pres. There is nothing we can do about that “they” will only recongize impeachment. Don’t forget, because he still remains a British Citizen, he is subject to UK’s protection and laws, not ours.
Seems like there are 2 laws in my opinion, The Peoples law- The Constitution- and congress’s law-The Royal parliament.
sorry I spelled your name wrong >>jbjd. : )
da verg – There is one more problem. Obama Sr. was already married to a Kenyan wife when he married Obama Mama. What does that do to the problem?
The problem is this…If there wasn’t voter fraud in every state of the union before and during the election of 008, there wouldn’t be a USURPER squatting illegally in the white house. IMO.
I’ll answer myself – It makes him the USURPER BA$TARD!!
Da Verg,
I am shocked that you can’t see the truth, can’t you see the Truth written on it’s face?
1.”mother did live here 5 years-they weren’t in Kenya that long”.
I didn’t know that Ann and Sr. took a trip to Kenya and stayed for a period of time did you?
2.” They granted the certificate based on that -she can’t help where she had the baby”
Who “granted the certificate” Hawaii? And why would Ann or whoever have to argue and fight for a birth certificate. If Obam was born here his, citizenship is an automatic, not “granted” in a Court or by special state declaration. So this is true, he was not born in Hawaii and that COLB is given to those who were born elsewhere.
3.” and they don’t take U.S. citizenship away from the baby because mom was somewhere else when she had him ”
Where was Mom when she “had him”…. Kenya.
Da Verg, surely you can find the Truth in those and “other statements. Just hold off on the NBC theory (we all know 2US parents+ US soil=NBC)
Try and open your mind and see the truth.
Dallas
Here it is simple. Not born in Hawaii because he would have put his BC on line instead of a COLB.
Born out of country (Kenya) to a British father because he has admitted he is british at birth. Mother too young to auto pass US citizenship to obama.
BTW his real legal name is Barry Soetoro of Indonesia!
IMO..Obama Senior is NOT BHO’s BIO dad. Frank Marshall Davis is. Hi. was handing out birth certificates in 1960 to any child born abroad. Therefore theres is a HUGE chance Barry was NOT born on US soil. Whatever definition of 2US parents=NBC you believe in,there is a bigger embarrassing issue in regard to BHO’s COLB or NBC status.
http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/barry-dunham-davis-obama-soetero-son-of-a-child-molester/
Dallas
Another you can research. Do put too much emphasis on the NBC thing because he is not even a US citizen.
So what congress and this supporter are saying,
or their argument- is that based on”mom’s’ US citizenship regardlesss to where she “had him”, Jr. would have been a US citizen if mom was or could have been at home in Hawaii at the time
of his birth.
That’s why at factcheck.org they use the term “by virtue of”. Meaning would have been if could have been.
(by virtue of being born in Hawaii)
Dallas,
It doesn’t matter what Congress sees. What matters is what the Department of Justice sees.
Soetoro can not be removed by impeachment because it would be a paradox. In order to impeach Congress would have to recognize him as a usurper unless they impeach him for some other criminal activity. That means they have to say “you are not, nor ever were the President”.
Because if this they would be powerless to impeach and would have to refer this to the DOJ anyway.
Dallas,
Again, being born in Hawaii does not make anyone a citizen, let alone a Natural Born Citizen. This bold assumption that his mother retained her U.S. Citizenship is presumptuous at best.
Look at it this way. You have absolutely no proof Dunham retained her citizenship because no one here has access to her citizenship records. When you show proof of this, then perhaps we might consider Soetor to be a citizen at birth. Should Soetoro have been born in Hawaii to 2 foreign citizens, he would have been considered an “anchor baby” at best. Surely not a U.S. Citizen based on U.S. law at the time. And definitley not even close to remotely close to a Natural Born Citizen based on de Vattel’s definition in 1758.
I think a lot of people who voted for him probably don’t care. I mean, remember the young adults that were only interested in their concert ticket and thought he was “cool” for giving them one? Remember all the people who thought he was going to pay their mortgages and buy them gas? Folks, we live in an ignorant America, honestly.
However, some of the Dems who really do care are pretty much turning their backs on him. That is a good thing to happen too. Some are not as liberal as many of the other idiots in America.
Obama Giving Himself Access to Your Hard Drive.
This news video/question was posted on Sodahead.
http://www.sodahead.com/question/294715/obama-giving-himself-access-to-your-hard-drive-how-do-you-like-your-change/
Jeff,
Please, I only posted that comment by an Obama supporter. “indiana mom” Why not try and find some truth in her statements instead of attacking it … or attempting to correct me…( I am not the one who wrote it)
“it was done within the given period of time you have to file for the birth certificate in those cases where the mom happens to give birth outside her own country ”
This person has said it 4 times mom gave birth outside of the country. I don’t know about you, but I believe this person. so why does this peron believe that the citizenship is based soley on the mom?
Here’s the ‘YouTube’ viral video again …
Look right below it, and click for the Jerry Doyle Show (9:58 audio) which discusses the Abomination’s attempt to intimidate Dr. Bob Basso after the ‘Revolution Video’ is released on YouTube!
http://grou.ps/zapem
Retired Military requests New Mexico to apply for
souvernity ASAP READ LETTER
http://www.defendourfreedoms.us copy and send out
Carl is/was a member of the NGJ of Georgia.
Want the fires lit?
If you haven’t seen it yet, try this on for size…
http://www.riseupforamerica.com
We are the first in the Country (Georgia Patriots) to convene the Comon Law Grand Jury AND issue an Idictment against Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama
The significance of this is spreading across the country like wildfire. I have been contacted by no less than 7 other states who want to do the same thing. Get this out and FAST to everybody you know. 1 down 49 to go.
I’m being interviewed on PlainsRadio tomorrow eve. at 6:00 CST to explain.
Carl Swensson
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/batchelor-community-disorganized/
This is precious, a heads up for the G20.
Find much TRUTH ON http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
http://WWW.WND.COM
http://WWW.INVESTIGATINGOBAMA.BLOGSPOT.COM
Dallas,
I’m not attacking you at all. I’m merely stating the obvious:
1. We don’t know who Soetoro’s parents really were citizenship-wise.
2. We don’t know if Soetoro was even born in Hawaii other than a COLB that looks like a 5th grader hacked.
3. We don’t even know Soetoro’s grades, let alone if he was using foreign citizenship to earn college money (even if he was a U.S. citizen at the time this is still a crime).
4. We have no idea whether or not Soetoro is even Soetoro, or whether he even kept his citizenship at all.
These are really disturbing questions, not because they are asked, but because our “beloved” nitwit in the White House refuses to answer any of these questions with proof. Instead he fights every dig into his past with a team of attorneys claiming some ridiculous web site is the solution to all problems.
Pretty sad IMO.
Dallas // March 29, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Jeff,
Congress sees this man as the official pres. There is nothing we can do about that “they” will only recongize impeachment. Don’t forget, because he still remains a British Citizen, he is subject to UK’s protection and laws, not ours.
Seems like there are 2 laws in my opinion, The Peoples law- The Constitution- and congress’s law-The Royal parliament.
___________________________
At that time one could not hold dual citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia,. Kenya and Indonesia didn’t have dual citizenship. Becoming a natural born citizen of Indonesia, Lolo became his natural father, all previous citizenships are null and void………..
It doesn’t matter where he was born or what other countries he had citizenship.
He was given kenyan citizenship at birth, therefore he can not be a NBC … a citizen yes, NBC ,no.
The problem with the Indonesian citizenship is if he wasn’t taken through immigration , he might not be a US citizen.
________________
The founders explained what they meant by NBC , it’s all about loyalty. In order to be NBC both parents must be US citizens.
Soetoro aka Obama is not and never was a NBC.
The most important aspect of the links I have been pasting are the dates.
http://writingtw.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-report-by-steve-baldwin-doesnt.html
Army D.A.V.,
Your are 100% correct. People today are intermixing the Amendment XIV definition of a citizen with the Article II requirement of Natural Born Citizen.
They are not the same. The framers utilized de Vattel’s 1758 definition to its core. This very discussion of allegiance amplifies the argument here.
BHO has committed enough felonies to have been indicted long before the election. Nobody cared. Also the NBC and COLB interpretations, matter according to the constitution but,usurpers crimes before the election were and are substantial enough to have warranted an investigation and should have been plastered all over the MSM. Nobody cared is my point. If you combine Barry’s crimes and the fact that Phillip Berg and Andy Martin were suing Obama before the election,it will illustrate, that there were no *checks and balances* or vetting. It does’t matter to Scotus or any USDOJ personal what Obama is or isn’t. The most historic event was yesterday in the great state of Georgia,when an indictment by a Grand Jury of BHO’s peers was unanimously reached. This is the only (IMO) that *we the people* will send a clear message to the federal government and the USUPER,that we will not except you or the seditious,treasonist current government.
Georgia rocks! Let it begin!
Rocknee–thanks for posting more info
about the GA Grand Jury. Let the
Grand Juries spread across this great Nation!
Let the lawyers handle the legal aspects of the COLB and NBC. The rest of us need to do our part in this way. Leo Donofiro,J.D. has written the legal truth about the 4th branch of government. Please read it.
http://www.cusc.org/editorial/3563.htm
Tail wagging the dog.
” We the people” The master.
” Next most powerful government position ” our State Governors, The dog.
The Federal Government gets it’s powers from the States, It has no power of it’s own,The tail.
Solution , put a leash on the dog and bob his tail.
JeffM and Army D.A.V —
Small correction — Obama was a “British Subject” at birth who received Kenya Citizenship only at age 3, when Kenya was granted its independence.
Obama, Sr. was in this country on a temporary student visa, and when he married Ann Dunham in 1961, he was already married in Kenya, and already had two children. Those children were likewise “British Subjects” who were given Kenya Citizenship.
There is not a dime’s worth of difference in the status of Obama’s, Sr.’s children in Kenya and in Hawaii — both were governed by the British Nationalty Act of 1948, and this fact has been confirmed by FactCheck.org.
The only thing that FactCheck.org did not mention, was that Obama, Sr was a BIGAMIST when Obama, Jr. was born — a significant omission in the information provided, don’t you think?
That is the Number 1 reason why FactCheck.org is not to be trusted — their facts are “selective.”
SPREAD THE NEWS FAR AND WIDE : Post the Sentence Below Everywhere.
Breaking News:
Obama Indicted by a Grand Jury.
A State Grand Jury on March 28th at 4:15PM in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia Indicted Obama/Soetoro on all Charges of being a Presidential Imposter/Usurper.
Georgia Grand Jury interview here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theevilconservative/2009/03/24/Evil-Conservative-Radio
More Info here:
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
http://www.DefendOurFreedoms.us
My rant:
ALELUIA, ALELUIA,
ONE DOWN Grand Jury Down 49 states to go.
After we CONVENE a Federal Grand Jury if need be.
Long Live the Constitutional Republic.
50 Grand Juries in 50 States in 10 Days.
TIME OF RECKONING of the PONZI PREZ is Upon Us. The FRAUD/FORGERY will be EXPOSED.
Congratulations to GEORGIA on the Great Battle of the CONSTITUTIONALISTS vs the EROSIONISTS.
God Bless US.
RISE UP AMERICA. RISE UP.
Clean House in Washington DC.
Push out the FRAUD Prez.
Layoff the cons in CONgress
Sentence the lawless Judiciary
Bring on 49 more Grand Juries!
Time for a new PEOPLE’s GOV’T
Return to a Constitutional Republic.
What’s your reaction to Obama recruiting Muslims for White House posts?
http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=375
Have to correct you Jeff.
Obam Jr. was born a CUKC (citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies) -not Kenyan. He didn’t get ‘Kenyanized’ until Dec. 1963, when Kenya Colony and Protectorate became an Independent Republic. At that time (1963) he may have had 3 citizenships UKC, US, and Kenyan.
British Parliament at that time did not take away UKC citizenship( on independence day )from those who were ‘born in the Colony and Protectorate ‘ or those who registered for the status . So, Obam Jr. probably remains a Citizen of the UKC to this very day. No wonder the arrogance.
Bob,
If Obam Jr. was a British Subject at birth,
why does he insist 3 times that he is a Citizen of the UKC (not British subject)
1. In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both……… a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC)
2.Obama’s British citizenship was short-lived.
3.So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth
I believe factcheck. Obam Jr. was a citizen of the UKC at birth.
For all the people struggling to enforce the Constitution may soon find out that our government may be following a different code, Mien Kampf
Obama’s youth……………..
There is no way this legal , for a President to have his own private Army unless we are already under a dictatorship.
This youth indoctrination program was passed by congress, caution , the video made me ill.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/
Is it necessary to impeach a president who never legally held the office in the first place? If he never held it, then why the need? A few armed men, shackles and an orange jump suit….oh and the ugly prison shower clogs……should remedy this situation…..KEEP THE JURIES COMING!
Organize in your state NOW
congress will not impeach BHO because they are complicit in the COUP.
Army,
Kenya Colony and Protectorate, was partly owned by the Germans and partly owned by the British for a time… explains his loyalties.
Dallas
Yes, you can use that and all the other facts if you want to throw the book at him, I just want to throw him…. out of the WH. Even if he was only a Kenyan citizen for one second , he cant be a NBC.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20625_Page2.html
I guess Congress wants to own everything.
It keeps getting worst………
Obama just fired General Motors Corp. Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner.
WTH………?
What’s next , fire Joe the Plumber………
Dallas , Go tell someone who cares.
Sorry , forgot the link..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gm_wagoner..
Dallas wrote
more fiction
“If Obam Jr. was a British Subject at birth,
why does he insist 3 times that he is a Citizen of the UKC (not British subject)
1. In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both……… a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC)
2.Obama’s British citizenship was short-lived.
3.So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth
I believe factcheck. Obam Jr. was a citizen of the UKC at birth.”
I don’t see USA in there anywhere Dallas, you are spinning out completely. I don’t see USA natural born citizen in there anywhere. I don’t see where you “can lose your citizenship” in there anywhere. Citizenship is not “short lived”, it is inherent forever. I don’t see any paperwork ANYWHERE in which OBAMA signed disavowing any nation’s citizenship. None.
You are on a fishing expedition on none of it is even close to trolling for “natural bone citizen’ fish.
Quit wasting our time.
WE THE PEOPLE,NOT WE THE GOVT,NEED TO FIRE BHO.HE IS RUNNING THE COUNTRY WORSE THAN ANY CEO !!!
FIRE PELOSI,REID,DODD,SCHUMER,FRANK.
NATIONAL CONFERENCE IN D.C. APRIL 3-4
INFO http://WWW.CONTRARIANCOMMENTARY.COM
” Citizenship is not “short lived”, it is inherent forever”.
———————————————
I don’t know who wrote this B.S. above please explain….
MICHAEL, THE X MOBSTER,SAYS THE CONGRESS IS BEING RUN LIKE THE CHICAGO MOB.WAS ON FOX BUSSINESS TONIGHT.
HIS BOOK AN OFFER YOU CAN’T REFUSE.
Army,
I only want to find out why “they” -congress, supporters and perhaps some legal theorists,
feel that he is qualified (I know by definition that he is not). Did you see that comment I posted by “indian mom?”
That clued me into their thinking, they know he was born in Kenya, but somehow that doesn’t matter, father was only a subject and didn’t have citizenship to give. They feel that the mother had the citizenship to give to the child, and just because the birth took place in another country,
does not take away his mother’s citizenship, or his birthplace if circumstances were different.
So that leaves soil. Obam cannot admit or show his original BC because that would make him a fraud to the American people. And he cannot have that. My take, they (congress and supporters) should have been truthful in the begining- born in Kenya, UKC citizen at birth.
Dallas wrote, my responses follow each
Da Verg,
I am shocked that you can’t see the truth, can’t you see the Truth written on it’s face?
>>>>I have SEEN NO HARD EVIDENCE, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU PROCLAIM THAT OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN??? WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? YOU HAVE PRESENTED NONE. JUST LIKE OBAMA HAS PRESENTED NONE. WHERE IS YOUR TRUTH? YOU HAVE NONE. AND UNTIL YOU PRESENT SOME REAL FACTS YOU ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH.
1.”mother did live here 5 years-they weren’t in Kenya that long”.
I didn’t know that Ann and Sr. took a trip to Kenya and stayed for a period of time did you?
>>>>>OBAMA’S GRANDMOTHER HAS STATED THAT SHE SAW BARRACK BORNE IN KENYA IN AN AFFADAVIT. THE KENYAN AMBASSADOR HAS SAID OBAMA WAS BORNE IN KENYA. KENAY HAS SEALED OBAMA’S RECORDS (which records do you think they sealed?). CORSI, A REPORTER GOT A HOLD OF OBAMA’s KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE and WAS GOING TO RELEASE IT UNTIL OBAMA’s cousin OBINGO who IS IN CHARGE OF KENYA ARRESTED, DETAINED, and TORTURED HIM ! RUSSIA, UK, PAKISTAN, INDIA, AND CHINA HAVE ALL COME OUT WITH STATEMENTS SAYING OBAMA IS A USURPER. UK HAS PAPERWORK UNDER SEAL. KENYA HAS A GAG ORDER ON ALL OF OBAMA’s relatives. THERE IS AN OBAMA RELATIVE IN USA WHO HAS BEEN DENIED GETTING HIS OWN FAMILY’s RECORDS. YOU WANT MORE? READ ON.
2.” They granted the certificate based on that -she can’t help where she had the baby”
>>UMMM THAT IS NO ARGUEMENT AT ALL. SHE HAD MADE A CLEAR CUT DECISION TO GO TO KENYA, SHE ABSOLUTELY COULD HELP WHERE SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE THE BABY !! THAT IS NONSENSE ARGUEMENT. IT WAS PREMEDITATED !! WHAT SHE DID NOT PLAN WAS BEING REJECTED BY THE MUUUUSLEM SIDE OF OBAMA SR, BEING REJECTED BY THE FACT THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO PLAY SECOND FIDDLE TO OBAMA SR FIRST WIFE AMONG OTHER THINGS. FURTHERMORE, ADDING MORE WeIGHT TO THE ARGUMENT, SHE PULLED THE VERY SAME SHIT WITH OBAMA’s SISTER MAYA >>>>NONSENSE, AND STILL DOESN’T PROVE HE IS A NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN? THIS IS ABOUT THE FIFTH TIME I MENTIONED IT AND YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE IT. CAN YOU EVEN READ ENGLisH? ONCE AGAIN>>>Still not a natural born citizen???? has it sunk in yet, HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN dude, open your EARS !!!!!
Where was Mom when she “had him”…. Kenya.
Try and open your mind and see the truth.
>>>TRY AND OPEN YOUR EARS AND LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING FOR ONCE BEFORE OPENING YOUR PIE HOLE, ok?
case closed
your position completed disproved, for lack of understanding and listening on your behalf.
Boston College canceled an appearance tomorrow by William Ayers. This article in the Boston Globe is not nearly as informative as the first few comments that follow.
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2009/03/29/bc_students_move_ayers_event/
Dallas wrote, my responses follow each
Da Verg,
I am shocked that you can’t see the truth, can’t you see the Truth written on it’s face?
>>>>I have SEEN NO HARD EVIDENCE, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU PROCLAIM THAT OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN??? WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? YOU HAVE PRESENTED NONE. JUST LIKE OBAMA HAS PRESENTED NONE. WHERE IS YOUR TRUTH? YOU HAVE NONE. AND UNTIL YOU PRESENT SOME REAL FACTS YOU ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH.
1.”mother did live here 5 years-they weren’t in Kenya that long”.
I didn’t know that Ann and Sr. took a trip to Kenya and stayed for a period of time did you?
>>>>>OBAMA’S GRANDMOTHER HAS STATED THAT SHE SAW BARRACK BORNE IN KENYA IN AN AFFADAVIT. THE KENYAN AMBASSADOR HAS SAID OBAMA WAS BORNE IN KENYA. KENAY HAS SEALED OBAMA’S RECORDS (which records do you think they sealed?). CORSI, A REPORTER GOT A HOLD OF OBAMA’s KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE and WAS GOING TO RELEASE IT UNTIL OBAMA’s cousin OBINGO who IS IN CHARGE OF KENYA ARRESTED, DETAINED, and TORTURED HIM ! RUSSIA, UK, PAKISTAN, INDIA, AND CHINA HAVE ALL COME OUT WITH STATEMENTS SAYING OBAMA IS A USURPER. . KENYA HAS A GAG ORDER ON ALL OF OBAMA’s relatives. THERE IS AN OBAMA RELATIVE IN USA WHO HAS BEEN DENIED GETTING HIS OWN FAMILY’s RECORDS. YOU WANT MORE? READ ON.
2.” They granted the certificate based on that -she can’t help where she had the baby”
>>UMMM THAT IS NO ARGUEMENT AT ALL. SHE HAD MADE A CLEAR CUT DECISION TO GO TO KENYA, SHE ABSOLUTELY COULD HELP WHERE SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE THE BABY !! THAT IS NONSENSE ARGUEMENT. IT WAS PREMEDITATED !! WHAT SHE DID NOT PLAN WAS BEING REJECTED BY THE MUUUUSLEM SIDE OF OBAMA SR, BEING REJECTED BY THE FACT THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO PLAY SECOND FIDDLE TO OBAMA SR FIRST WIFE AMONG OTHER THINGS. FURTHERMORE, ADDING MORE WeIGHT TO THE ARGUMENT, SHE PULLED THE VERY SAME SH*T WITH OBAMA’s SISTER MAYA , WHO WAS BORN IN INDONESIA AND REGISTERED IN HAWAI’i >>>>NONSENSE, AND STILL DOESN’T PROVE HE IS A NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN? THIS IS ABOUT THE FIFTH TIME I MENTIONED IT AND YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE IT. CAN YOU EVEN READ ENGLisH? ONCE AGAIN>>>Still not a natural born citizen???? has it sunk in yet, HOW MANY FreaKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? NATURAL BORNE CITIZEN dude, open your EARS !!!!!
Where was Mom when she “had him”…. Kenya.
Try and open your mind and see the truth.
>>>TRY AND OPEN YOUR EARS AND LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING FOR ONCE BEFORE OPENING YOUR PIE HOLE, ok?
case closed
your position completed disproved, for lack of understanding and listening on your behalf.
Da Verg,
those are factcheck.org’s words not mine. Ok?
Your points are valid, just point them at the right direction will ya?
Look by Obama stating he was a citizen of the UKC at birth means exactly what you say, it means not an NBC at birth. My point- should you try and look at it, is that Jr. was not a “british subject” like his father. He insists he was a UKC citizen at birth .Who are we to argue that, and why would you want to? It’s an admission to “not” being a full US citizen. Giving him “subject status “leaves only the mother ,in theory, to give citizenship (despite her age).
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20608.html
“Help me help you ‘. Well you know Obama is desperate when he starts using psychobabble.
I wonder if he attended sensitivity groups with his thugs in Chicago.
da verg
Sounds Dallas is a femenist and really believes the women is the key to citizenship. Nothing else matters.
Dallas
There is a reason why the founders used two different definitions of citizenship in the cons tuition , citizen and natural born citizen.
They only used natural born to describe the President and Vice President.
Natural born was explained very clearly and exactly and why they used natural born, you have to read the letters they wrote each other on the subject.
A natural born citizen must be born of two American citizens .
If you read the constuition very carefully you find out that the founding fathers excused themselves of this very clause, because they themselves were not natural born citizens.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/batchelor-community-disorganized/
Well, at least the bankers are revolting against Obama.
Not I, Rock. I merely reposted what I saw on another blog. Thought it would be interesting for you all to see, how the “otherside” thought and believed. Those are not my beliefs.
Here is the site to keep an eye on April 3 and 4.
http://nationalconferenceonobama.blogspot.com
Army,
I know what an NBC is. You don’t need to lecture me. I posted and interesting find on another blog and I get ridculed and lectured
as if it were my posting! What’s going on here!
indiana mom commented more than a month ago
live birth certificate or not =he’s a citizen. and his mother DID live here 5 years prior -they weren’t in Kenya that long -her citizenship was always United States -just because she was visiting kenya does not mean she didn’t live in the united States – They granted the certificate based on that -she can’t help where she had the baby -and they don’t take U.S. citizenship away from the baby because mom was somewhere else when she had him -it was done within the given period of time you have to file for the birth certificate in those cases where the mom happens to give birth outside her own country -it’s based on mom -not dad -mom gives birth –
That was the original posting by indian mom. Those are not my words.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/obama-gallup-po.html
Is everybody tired of Obama’s hype yet? Well the trend continues despite endless pseudo appearances.
Dallas
Tell them this……………
Ignorance of the Law is No Excuse and is not a defense .
Dallas,
His mom, no matter her age (which she wasn’t of age anyway) could not give him US Natural Born Citizenship. Why? Because his dad was a British citizen. So therefore, there is a split here. Both parents are required for this, not split loyalties.
Let’s say he was really born in HI, which there’s testimony from others in various countries that he was born in Kenya, and which is acknowledged also in Pakistan too, it doesn’t matter if he was born in HI because still, his dad didn’t have a US citizenship.
Let’s say his dad really was someone else, for example, Frank Marshall Davis, but let’s say his mama took him to Kenya and married BO, Sr., would be still be a US citizen? NO! He wouldn’t be.
Whichever way you do it, he won’t be a natural-born citizen of the US unless his mama had him here with a natural-born citizen papa.
Then you also have to consider that Lolo adopted him, so he lost his US citizenship status, if he even ever had it.
469 comments ? Where the hell are ya CW?..lol
PASS THIS FAR AND WIDE:
Breaking News:
Obama Indicted by a Grand Jury.
A State Grand Jury on March 28th in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia Indicted Obama/Soetoro on all Imposter/Usurper Charges.
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
Interview:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theevilconservative/2009/03/24/Evil-Conservative-Radio
Military is ??? http://www.defendourfreedoms.us
Gholtron…………
Do you AGREE with our constitution or do you like many in this country believe that it is outdated and should be no longer observed as the primary instrument which keeps us free.
Tammy Bruce Says That The Obama’s Are”Trash In The White House!” LOL!!!
Michelle Obama telling kids, what it was like for her growing up, that she sounded like a white person.
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Army D.A.V. // March 29, 2009 at 8:42 pm
It keeps getting worst………
Obama just fired General Motors Corp. Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner.
WTH………?
What’s next , fire Joe the Plumber………
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What’s with this…..when did the Usurper start working for GM??? Is he moonlighting now??
If I was Rick W. I would sue the USURPERS…A$$!!! You can take that to the bank!!
Dr Orly Taitz TV interview with William Wagener- March 27, 2008
Dr Orly TAITZ on LIVE TV – part 1 part 2
Sorry … forgot to add the site
Dr Orly Taitz TV interview with William Wagener- March 27, 2008
Dr Orly TAITZ on LIVE TV – part 1 part 2
part 1
part 2
I personally stand with the Constitution,and will WITHOUT question ALWAYS support it. There are a lot of people these days who believe that when the Constitution was created the US was in it’s infancy, and was a much smaller Democracy than it is today. In addition we are now allegedly a changed society,and therefore the Constitution no longer accurately addresses our needs.
First of all, I believe that people who think this really do NOT have any real understanding of the Constitution to begin with, and/or reallydon’t give a damn anyway. These are people who are the largest part of the reason why BARRY SOETORO is the person who was as our POTUS, and is having a great time PRETENDING to be the POTUS. Most of the people who support Obama really give a damn if he was Constitutionally qualified either.The public was led to believe that they were voting for Barrack Hussein Obama. If his birthname was never legally reinstated then Barrack Hussein Obama is NOT the legal POTUS. He actually exists in NAME only, and the American public voted for a NAME only. When ,and where I went to school this was called FRAUD. I am sure that a lot of people think to the contrary. That is everyone’s privilege. I personally do not accept Soetoro as the POTUS,or CIC of our Military. In my personal view the United States does NOT HAVE a valid President.
I invite Gholtron ,Jaculyn,or jbjd to bring forth some documented proof that there has EVER been a US President elected whose legal surname was not that who the American public voted for.
While I admit that I cannot prove that Soetoro at some point did in fact legally resume the use of his birthname of Obama, there is no public record of it having been legally re-instated. If jbjd, Gholtron, or Jacqulyn can PROVE that it was LEGALLY re-instated with some court documents to back it up then I will shut up. In name change, or the legal re instatement of a past used name or birth name, by law it must be executed by a court, or the name change must be filed with the proper court,and IS PUBLIC RECORD. I personally spent many months researching the public records of every municipality, that Obama has resided in ,and to date I have found no public record of any legal name change petition in the name of either Barry Soetoro, or Barrack Hussein Obama. If any of you can prove that it was legally changed back to Obama please show a copy of the Petition. It will be Public record. Then I will shut up! I do not accept anyone’s allegations that it doesn’t matter. Try writing a binding contract without proof of ID. Those who think it doesn’matter are CHASING THEIR TAILS. It matters when you are involved in litigation. I am reasonably certain that there will be very substantial litigation at some point down the road, and I am equally certain that it will create a divided nation……….you guess the rest,it is recorded in our GRADE school History books.
Sorry for the typo errors in the above text.
line 12 “really give a damn” is supposed to be really DON’T give a damn. I apologise I didn’t proofread my work. PI## POOR.
TO: oldsalt 76 // March 30, 2009 at 2:00 am
That was nice but even you have been Brainwashed like most of us and called us a Democracy we are NOT a Democracy we are a Constitutional Republic.
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
Some of the comments reminded of an old essay I wrote about Obama’s votes:
Why 66,000,000 Obama Votes Are Not the Will of People
One of the most common arguments presented by Obamabots why the people who are challenging Obama’s eligibility to be President should not do so is because 66,000,000 people voted for Obama. Therefore choice for Obama is the will of the people. Wrong, wrong, wrong and 66,000,000 votes wrong.
Only half of America voted. Only half of the half who voted, voted for whom they thought was Obama. That makes the number only 25% of the people who thought they voted for Obama. That is hardly the will of the people. The candidate for whom 66,000,000 people voted, was not the candidate they thought he was.
1. First of all Obama’s true legal name is Barry Sotoero. If Obama’s real name is Barry Sotoero, the people voted for Barack Hussein Obama and not Barry Sotoero. Barack Obama doesn’t exist except by his fictional creation.
2. If Obama knowing he failed to meet one of the three criteria to become president, then he is knowingly a false candidate. False means not real. Not real means fiction. The people voted for a fictional candidate and not a bonafide qualified real candidate. They voted for a fictional character.
3. If Obama was “change you could believe in”, then the people voted for their belief in change not to get short changed.
4. If Obama is MSM favorite and MSM suppressed vital information necessary for the public choice and reported only favorable information about Obama, then the people voted for Obama media hype, not the favorite.
5. If Obama is a flim/flam man, the people voted for the flim/flam and not the man. The man is an illusion.
6. If Obama is an empty suit, they voted for the suit and not the empty.
7. If Obama is “the one”, they voted for a fantasy and not the man.
8. If Obama is one slick glittering package, they voted for the package and not the slick.
9. If Obama is a silver plated turd, they voted for the silver plating and not the turd.
If Obama is not qualified under the US Constitution to be President, then he perjured himself and perpetrated a heinous fraud upon the American people. All those people who voted in good faith for him have been betrayed. The reality is that had MSM been objective in their reporting about Obama and disclosed the question of his eligibility based upon his citizenship, perhaps 66,000,000 would have voted differently. Because Obama, the DNC, MSM, and a few thousand more deliberately covered up the truth, published a forged COLB, chances are very good there is a USURPER about to steal the government and place America in the greatest NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT in her history.
Under no circumstances can Obamabots claim because 66,000,000 who voted for what they thought was a valid candidate these votes represent the will of the people. Again, had the voters known the real facts, the question is would they have voted for him. It cannot be called the will of the people when the people who voted had voted based upon false information.
I agree with you oldsalt76 100%.
Dallas =
A CUKC is a “British Subject,” just as the American colonists were “British Subjects” prior to our War of Independence ending in 1783.
In Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, the U.S. Constitution SPECIFICALLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY prohibits “British Subjects” from serving as “Commander-in-Chief of the United States following the dying out of the generation that actually fought in the Revolutionary War. That last American president who actually fought in the Revolutionary War was Andrew Jackson, who was involved in several skirmishes with British troops and Tory irregulars under Lord Cornwallis in the Carolinas when he was only 14 years old.
That is the phrase that immediately follow the “Natural Born Citizen” phrase.
oldsalt76, please, leave me alone. I cannot recall that you asked me to “prove” anything. However, I do recall that, you assumed BO has broken a law by using one name when you contend, he is ‘legally’ known by another; and that by using a non-legal name, he rendered anything he signed or swore to, invalid. I responded that, making blanket statements as to the binding effect of using a name you charge is not his legal name; means nothing. I proposed that you could look up the law in the jurisdiction in which he committed to signing or swearing to the instrument you now determine is worthless because he swore using what you allege is the wrong name. I offered this example. In my state, a person may legally obtain a driver’s license in the name by which he is known, notwithstanding the identification he used to obtain that license, for example, his birth certificate, was issued in a different name.
New Blog http://www.thefoxnation.com
Need to direct America to http://www.defendourfreedoms.us and National Conference April 3-4 in D.C.
Info http://www.contrariancommentary.com
OBAMA TAKING 500 TO G-20. SOUNDS LIKE HE KNOWS THE END IS NOT FAR AWAY AND HE IS GOING OUT IN ONE GRAND POLITICAL PAY OFF AND SHOW OF ARROGANCE
AND WE THE TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IT.
I heard a story in passing, Barry attended a “conference”, or a meeting, and the subject was,,how to circumvent the Natural Born Citizen clause, to get elected president. Has anyone else heard about this? I believe the meeting was at a law firm?
Bob,
I must correct you. CUKC (citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies) and British Subject are not the same status.
People born before the 1948 BNA were born British Subjects. Born after 1948 were CUKCs.
People born before 1948 could “acquire” CUKC status “if” they registered, naturalized or declared that status. If a person did not aquire CUKC, they remained a British subject.
Part I
British Nationality.
3.—(1) A British subject or citizen of Eire who is not a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies
13.—(1) A person who was a British subject immediately before the date of the commencement of this Act ………….
shall as from that date remain a British subject without citizenship until he becomes a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies
So a British Subject remained a British subject until becomming a Citizen of the UKC. That person had to “aquire” that status by declaration registration or naturalizization.
Bob Strauss,
Is this the bill they tried to pass regarding McCain last year regarding the NBC issue? Or is this recent?
DAllas
once again you are pulling straws but trying to support obama , you wrote
Giving him “subject status “leaves only the mother ,in theory, to give citizenship (despite her age).
>>>it takes TWO parents, not one, to provide citizenship. And to your statement on what OBAMA says….OBAMA is a known liar, I wouldn’t take anything that he says on face value. YOu say he can’t lose US citizenship, but he can lose another nations citizenship? Your posts are all spinning out in all directions. You need to focus. Repeat after me
natural borne citizen
natural borne citizen
natural borne citizen
tyrant bully usurper, his ouster of GM boss is really scarey and more proof of his bully tryant left wing fascist status. This is a VERY bad sign. And the CONSTITUTIONALISTS and FREE MARKET people should SIEZE on this and take him to the task.
someone please
mail FOXNEWS
SAVAGE
O RIEELYYY
MATT DRUDGE
HANNITY etc on this grand jury and
military filing
get on it , get the news out
to those people saying that CONGRESS is the only way to resolve this eligibility issue
i believe you are all wrong. Take a look at what Dr Viera said on this issue
congress is complicit in it
congress is as illegal as obama is usurper , as obama is illegal
there are other options, such as a friendly Constittuional judge, if there are any left
Viera also pointed out the fact that there are “other means” of removing the president including the people and the military.
How can the Congress be complicit? Let me remind you that the Speaker of the House , Pelosi perjured herself by signing several CERTS saying OBAMA qualified under the Constitution. And this is the same toon that faces ex communication from her own church for not understanding their laws and rules and history (regarding abortion). If she can’t even “get” her own churches teachings, imagine how screwed up she is with the Constitution (which is a tad, but not much, more involved than the Church’s teachings). Shows you the qualitity of idiots that the people of northern california elect. Morons and stooges, only come from there.
Did i make my point? Questions anyone
?
Bob,
allow me to clarify something, the British Subjects who failed to acquire CUKC status remained” British Subjects without Citizenship”.
Meaning the Subjects had no citizenship to pass to their newborns.
TO: DALLAS ,
OK ENOUGH with your trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
The IMPORTANT question here is: Was Obama Senior a USA CITIZEN? Obvioulsy NOT therefore Obama NOT born to TWO (2) Qualified US Citizens and NOT Natural Born Citizen. That is the ONLY important things.
Whow cares what citizenship senior had or didn’t have or how many he had. Who cares what Obama/Soetoro citizenship was at birth all we care about is whether he was NATURAL BORN CITIZEN or not. He CLEARLY accoridng to the Constitution WASN’T.
We are talking about the egg yoke and you keep talking about the discarded shells.
NOW ENOUGH your EROSIONISTS LIEberal ways won’t fool anyone here we have been AWAKENED and won’t be fooled anymore.
You are a perfect example of an Erosionist LIEberal coming here with your smoke and mirrors and half-truths and Twisted Facts.
Either mend your ways or be on you way.
God Bless US.
PS I could care less if Senior was Brittish, UKCS, Kenyan, Portuguese, Martian, etc…… ALL THAT MATTERS is that he WASN’T a Qualified American Citizen.
da verg you wrote:
‘once again you are pulling straws but trying to support obama’.
I am not an obam supporter. I was merely trying to see “their” point of view. I have stated this over and over.
TO: da verg,
Good points BUT Please don’t change my fellow Portuguese/American Vieira’s name.
VIEIRA.
Great points though.
Thanks and my apologies.
Val, that senate attempt was telling wasn’t it?
Port,
Try and understand, If Obama Sr. was a British Subject without citienship, he had no citizenship to pass to Jr. If Sr. had no citizenship to pass to obam Jr. that only left the Mother and the Soil.
Val, it was before the election,while they were planning to usurp the presidency.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/batchelor-constable-california-sinking/
As California sinks so does the nation.
Bob,
Law firm was in Chicago and the firm actually proposed to reword or remove the NBC, maybe an amendment. Obama worked for the firm or the firm represented him and another US senator. Occurred in 06 , I believe. Someone can correct me!!
TO all,
CALL TO ACTION: Please pass this far and often just cut and paste or change it as you feel the need.
BREAKING NEWS:
Obama Indicted by a Georgia Grand Jury
On March 28, 2009, a State Grand Jury in Stockbridge, Georgia Unanimously INDICTED Mr. Obama/Soetoro on ALL COUNTS as an USURPER/IMPOSTER.
This is part of the 50 Grand Juries in 50 States strategy. One state Down 49 to go.
Grand Juries are permitted and protected by the Constitution as the 4th branch of gov’t and empowers We The People with the tools necessary to keep gov’t servant to We The People the source of power in our Constitutional Republic.
It would be advisable for Mr. Obama to stay out of Georgia, until he is able to properly clear this up with proper documention.
For more info here:
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
QUESTION IF OBAMA IS NOT LEGAL AND REALLY A FRAUD AND HAS COMMITTED MULTIPLE CRIMES AGAINST AMERICAN , IS THERE ANYWAY TO DOA CITIZENS ARREST AGAINST HIM . JUST ASKING
TO DALLAS,
I’m sorry BUT ARE YOU THICK HEADED?
If Senior couldn’t pass down citizenship then it PROVES our POINT nto yours.
By senior NOT having citizenship AUTONATICALLY makes OBAMA not Natural Born because he NEEDED to haev TWO (2) qualified citizen parents and ONLY had one and that one (mom) was NOT EVEN A QUALIFIED Citizen herself.
The Constitution doesn’t have exceptions for foreign citizens, subjects,
non-citizens, dual citizens, triple citizens, etc. IT is VERY clear Child has to be Born to TWO (2) Qualified American Citizens, meaning a MOM & DAD that themselves are Qualified American Citizens (not just any Citizen but Qualified USA Citizens).
That is the problem with Erosionist LIEberal indotrination and brainwashing it paints you into a corner and everything is GRAY.
Constitutionalist see it Clearly and you Can’t?
It says more about you.
NOW PLEASE ENOUGH if you didn’t get it by now you MAY never get it. SO DROP IT.
Dallas —
I”m sorry, but you are simply mistaken. Even Factcheck.org would disagree with your assessment.
Yes, “British Subject” and “CUKC” are different, but only AFTER a former colony became independent.
Obama, Sr. was a “British Subject” at the time that Obama, Jr. was born, and he transmitted his citizenship (which passed through the father) to Obama, Jr. AT BIRTH, which is the only date that the U.S Constitution is interested in.
This whole subject-matter has been covered ad nauseum in this pages, so you are welcome to go back into the archives back to August 2008 to current, where you will find it covered.
In the meantime, happy reading!
I hear Obama created a job today in the automobile industry.
TO: magan carta,
Great observation magna, Obanomics at work created one job BUT failed to save one job.
Obanomics = Gush Up Poverty, equal poverty for all.
The only CEO we would like to see go is the FRAUDCEO in Washington and all his Cronies including the Lawless Judiciary and the Cons in CONgress.
Grand Jury indited Obama in Georgia
http://www.defendourfreedom.us
New blog http://www.thefoxnation.com
“I heard a story in passing, Barry attended a “conference”, or a meeting, and the subject was,,how to circumvent the Natural Born Citizen clause, to get elected president. Has anyone else heard about this? I believe the meeting was at a law firm?”
Bob, yes, I’ve heard or read this too. I’ll have to think about it for a while where I read it. Wasn’t it in 2006? It was some huge conference, I think.
Bob and kittycat
This is what I was referring to, is this what you are looking for.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/obama-covertly-working-to-amend-the-natural-born-citizen-requirement/
Rocknee:
I’ve never seen that place before, I don’t think. But it’s on the same subject that I was reading yesterday about that. I just see so much stuff that I can’t remember where I read what anymore.
kittycat,
This was done by a law firm that at the time represented obama and durbin. That would say it all, right!!
Rocknee — The answer to Susan Herlihy’s Kirkland and Ellis piece comes to from a look at “history.”
It’s a little complicated — so bear with me. But once it is understood by the right people, then this effort to amend the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause will likely disappear.
There was another use for the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause other than the qualification for president, and that was in the emancipation of the slaves.
Without the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause, the 39th Congress would have been hard pressed to grant Civil Rights to emancipated slaves in the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Justice Noah Haynes Swayne, writing his opinion on circuit in Kentucky in 1866 upheld the Civil Rights Act of 1866 by referring to the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause. Blacks were citizens exactly as whites, because they too were ‘natural born Citizens.’
The decision is known as U.S. v. Rhodes (1866), and it is very hard to find a copy on the Internet, although I think Lan Lamphere reproduced it once, I believe, but in an old posting.
Noah Haynes Swayne was Lincoln’s first Justice appointed to the Supreme Court. His decision was published about the same time as the 14th Amendment was adopted.
In brief, the only people who want to amend the ‘natural born Citizen’ clause are those who want to reduce all Americans back into “plantation servitude as dependents of the government,” which is a very good description of a “Liberal Democrat.”
Why? Because you cannot reduce a “natural born Citizen’ to SERVITUDE! That’s my whole point!
I was a Democrat all my life, but NOT a “Liberal Democrat!”
B.S.
No one has the authority to change the Constitution or add an amendment that contradicts the Constitution .
500+ people going to G-20 with Usurper.
200 are secret service. 500+ is excessive
compared with other administrations.
Merkle of Germany says to heck with O’s
spending plan. WHAT a joke he is.
Can we just sell our government officials? And hire new ones that know how to read our constitution? A Buck a piece would be plenty to get rid of them.
Dallas
your wrote
I was merely trying to see “their” point of view
>>>I agree with Port Peter Francisco (ty for correcting me). Let me add why would you even bother to get inside the minds of these mentally delusional people? They are all brain washed, and brain dead, by years of 1960s baby diaper doper kool aid from MJ , LSD, and other dope. They can’t think straight, and product of far left extreme liberalism, which we all know is a mental disease. Don’t go there, it will rot your brain. No common sense, no morality, no decency, no ethics. When confronted with a moral or ethical dilema – what do they do? Flip a coin?
The dialogue here proves it.
CW:
Wanted to you to know that I have been writing our NC Rep’s about NC State Sovereignty. Today I got a response from Rep. Carolyn Justice. This is great news for us.
You will be pleased to know that I have sponsored a Resolution titled Sovereignty Under The 10th Amendment along with Representatives George Cleveland, Curtis Blackwood, and Mark Hilton. We have 25 co-sponsors. The Bill # is HB 849.
Thanks for writing and for your interest in a strong America.
Rep. Carolyn Justice
here’s my take on obama the bully tyrant firing GM chief
– strictly political, BO says GM plans are inadequate. A decision BO makes based on what sort of judgement? BO never ran anything in his entire life
– BO’s banker backers at AIG and WAll STreet get a free pass but GM doesn’t?
– what about UNION leadership? They are and were a partnership in GM failure, any of those union bosses going?
Margie // March 30, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Can we just sell our government officials?
___________________________
SOLD
They have already been purchased , George Soros picked them up in a yard sale years ago.
OBAMA TELLS CHRYSLER THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO COME UP WITH NEW PLAN.
CHRYSLER SHOULD SAY -“SIR(CUR)- YOU HAVE ONE WEEK TO COME UP WITH A CERTIFIABL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.”
Yes, “British Subject” and “CUKC” are different,”
Happy to see you corrected yourself from your prior statement.
” but only AFTER a former colony became independent”
Gotta correct you there, when the former Colony and Protectorates became independent,
citizens of the Commonwealth,(new state) british protected persons and subjects became “automatic” ‘citizens of Kenya’ (citizen of Kenya and UKC are not the same)
Those that were UKC’s remained UKCs.
(So father was a UKC he should have remained in that status at the independence of Kenya)
FOX Nation
Scary! Obama nominee wants one world order .
Judges should interpret the Constitution according to other nations’ legal “norms.” Sharia law could apply to disputes in US courts. The United States constitutes an “axis of disobedience” along with North Korea and Saddam-era Iraq.
http://www.thefoxnation.com/politics/2009/03/30/global-court
Dallas —
You mixed your apples and oranges — there is NOT ONE expert who will agree with your analysis.
Obama, Sr. was a “British Subject” in this country under the supervision of the British Embassy in a program arranged through the US State Department all the time he was in this country. That is what all of the original documents and news articles report AT THE TIME.
That is what I am relying my information upon.
Oh…this is nice. Just when you wondered where the hell you lived comes this:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2009/03/29/florida-govt-cancels-tea-party-fearing-too-many-attendees/
Tea Party canceled because of too many people. WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS….everyone is worried about socialism…..nice distraction….this is becoming a communist country almost OVERNIGHT
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fzapem.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F01%2F11%2Fobama-knew-he-wasnt-eligible-for-potus%2F&ei=LgfRSZPvAqDvnQeSnfHsCQ&usg=AFQjCNFcAqrbUMLMbhUnknAGVptOKAQZNA&sig2=-Pp3xpR_9rjJPfFlXknsjw
Can’t WE THE PEOPLE FIRE THE ADMINSTRATION AND MOST OF CONGRESS.
NOT SERVING THE BEST INTERESTS FOR AMERICA SOOOOOO AS TRUMP SAYS,YOU ARE FIRED!!CONSTITUTION IS LAW OF LAND,NOT BHOAND MOB
http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
SIGN PETITION PLEASE
Can’t WE THE PEOPLE FIRE THE ADMINSTRATION AND MOST OF CONGRESS.
NOT SERVING THE BEST INTERESTS FOR AMERICA SOOOOOO AS TRUMP SAYS,YOU ARE FIRED!!CONSTITUTION IS LAW OF LAND,NOT BHO AND MOB
http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
SIGN PETITION PLEASE
SOME OF CONGRESS OWNED BY UNIONS??
AMERICA SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED MOST OF THE WORLD KNOWS WHO HE IS.THIS IS SOOO DISCUSTING THAT THIS IS ALLOWED TO GO ON ANY LONGER.
http://WWW.DEFENDOURFREEDOMS.US
NATIONAL CONFERENCE APRIL 3-4 IN D.C.
http://WWW.CONTRARIANCOMMENTARY.COM
TELL RAINES TO RETURN HIS 90 MILLION AND FRANKS BOYFRIEND HOW MUCH DID HE MAKE.AND DODDS INVOLVEMENT.ALL SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FANNIE AND FREDDIE GO GET THEM TRUTH NOW
http://WWW.WND.COM
http://WWW.MARCHREPORT.COM
Good Work Bob! So Sr. was a British Subject all the while and never became a CUKC?
Directly contradicts factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
“As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama’s father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). ”
Your expert is the Kenya Constituition :
“1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies”
See, Sr. should have remained a CUKC. (But you have proved he never was)
“or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963…”
So if Sr was not a CUKC he could not have passed that status to Jr. In other words in order for Jr. to have UKC he had to have been born in Kenya.
British Nationality Act
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
Kenya Constitution
http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#87
Dallas — please do NOT put words in my mouth!
I never said ANYTHING that you have just written — so stop with your nonsense, because that is what it is, NONSENSE!
TO Dallas,
I feel that I need to simplify this for the LAST TIME for Your Erosionist Brainwashed Mind.
Lets say there is a law that states when a child is Born in order to be able to run for President in the future he must at birth receive $5 dollars from his mom and $5 from his daddy.
If he receives $5 or $10 from mom and nothing from daddy he doesn’t qualify. It doesn’t matter if daddy only had Brittish Pounds or Mexican Pesos or Portuguese Escudos. The daddy didn’t PASS DOWN the MANDATORY $5 therefore Disqualifying the child.
Who cares if BO Senior was UKC, CUKC, KFC, AAA, KKK, PLO or anything else, all we care about is whether he was an AMERICAN CITIZEN and he CLEARLY WASN’T. Because of tat BO Junior is NOT Natural Born Citizen.
Now DALLAS fly back to the BO SKUNK Nation and tell you Leader that your mission FAILED you couldn’t brainwash any of the Constitutionalist with your useless distorted LIEberal BS.
What? You said Obam Sr was a British Subject.
And I am saying you are right! What is wrong with that?
You just proved factcheck.org was wrong Sr. was not a CUKC what’s so wrong with that? And could not pass that CUKC to Jr.
It proves Jr. had to have been born in the Colony and Protectorate to acheive that status.
It’s a good find!
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/breitbart_the_war_against_onli.html
Perhaps this is appearing at a propitious time.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/embryos_arent_fertilized.html
I was struck by same when I watched Clinton on March 11, 2009 and wondered how long it would take for someone to notice. I’m glad someone finally did.
Now I can’t fault Clinton for not knowing that embryos by definition are fertilized. I think he may have meant implanted and that’s a reasonable error for someone without a science background.
But as this article states the smugness of the pseudointellectuals of the left leave much to be desired.
The mark of a truly knowledgeable person, is in knowing how little you know.
Dallas —
The facts are these — Obama, Sr. was in the US on a temporary student visa issued by the US State Department in Nairobi. When he arrived in the US he was already married with two children. His presences in the US was supervised by the British Embassy in Washington, DC. He attended the University of Hawaii to study Economics. There he married Ann Dunham. The moment he married Ann Dunham he was a BIGAMIST and an ‘immoral alien,’ and subject to DEPORTATION.
Obama’s 1st wife told a London newspaper that she looked forward to attending Obama’s inauguration, and that she also said that she was a lifelong friend of Ann Dunham. The question this raises is, When did they ever meet, except in Kenya?
When Ann Dunham was student in Seattle, Washington, with Barry as a small baby, she told friends that she looked forward to living in Kenya.
At the time, Barry’s citizenship was transmitted through his father. So, he was born a Brit, and even the Brits say so.
However, there is only one fact that TRUMPS all of this. It is this: US “soil” trumps British “blood.” If Obama can proved that he was in fact BORN ON US SOIL, then his US Citizenship will trump his British Citizenship, but that STILL does not establish that he was a ‘natural born Citizen.’
Obama has refused to prove that he was indeed born on US soil.
To be a ‘natural born Citizen,’ both parents have to be American citizens AND the child born on American soil.
That makes John McCain also NOT a ‘natural born Citizen.’ Although both of his parents were American citizens, in fact he was born in the Republic of Panama at a time when both of his parents were residing in the Republic of Panama, and not on the Canal Zone, as the McCain Campaign tried to make people believe. So, that makes John McCain a ‘naturalized Citizen.’
In the case of Bobby Jindal, for another instance, although he was born on American soil, neither of his parents were American citizens, and so he is also NOT a ‘natural born Citizen.’
All of this has been written about in this website already AD NAUSEUM!
Please read it for yourself!
The status of ‘natural born Citizen’ is our BIRTHRIGHT — it is not for sale, and is not to be diluted by illegal activities.
Can anyone here explain to me how a federal employee ” obama aka soetoro ” can fire a US citizen?.
Thank you Rocknee, that article says it all. The bastard was plotting 2 yrs in advance to usurp the presidency. Someone send this to Dr. Taitz, it is wonderful background material. They have so far failed to rewrite the natural born citizenship clause,and the article exposes part of the plan dating back, before the election.
TO: venice // March 30, 2009 at 4:17 pm
On Stem Cell and Embryos.
Here is why I think the LIEberals are pushing Embryos instead of other stem cells. PROFITS.
When you create embryos and destroy them there is no one to pay for the embryos and stem cells. Therefore the company makes all the profits.
When you use ADULT stem cells the adults have a proprietary right to the stem cells and no one can benefit from them unless the Adult Benefits or Agrees. Also there is a matter of not selling body parts. If it comes from an adult is it a body part and are you selling “body parts”?
When it is embryonic and the embryo is destroyed and gone, it is not a body and has no rights it becomes a product that can be sold as “medicine” just like selling digestive enzymes etc.
EROSIONISTS are great at hiding their true intentions and then they blame others for lying when they are the Bold Lairs….problem is no one calls them out, especially when you have Pournalists in the unethical Muddy Stream Media.
Just my 2 cents.
Portuguese,
Thank you for that. But this further supports by statement of the pseudointellectuals of our time.
To argue that embryos, implanted or not, is not a body, only a body part with no inherent rights and therefore subject to commercial enterprise, is equivalent to saying it is only a “derivative” of the body . It is in essence a venture taken at arms length and therefore negating any responsibility for its outcome.
Well we’ve certainly seen this monster in the markets, as we have seen with genetically modified foods etc. Everyone demands profit without taking responsibility and this aspect of the current administration is the most frightening all.
Bob,
The fact that Jr. has British Citizenship is not the issue or the question, it’s type, status at birth and how it was acquired.
Seems like it must be pretty important if factcheck.org has to elaborate in detail-though not all in virtuosity. And apparently you can’t decide whether Obam jr. was a British Subject or a CUKC at birth ( Jr. insists CUKC). It’s pretty awkward if you ask me.
You have established the fact that Sr. was a Subject upon arival in the US, and at no time durring his stay did he ‘acquire’ CUKC durring his presence here. Therefore Sr. could not pass that status to Jr. (He could pass his subjectness-but that’s not what Jr. said)
Acquisition of Citizenship of the UK & Colonies
Under the 1948 Act, CUKC status was acquired by:
* birth in the UK or a colony (exceptions for children of ‘enemy aliens’ and diplomats). The immigration status of the parents was irrelevant.
* naturalisation or registration in the UK or a colony or protectorate
* legitimate descent from a CUKC father for children born elsewhere. Only the first generation acquired British nationality automatically. Second and subsequent generations could do so only if born outside the Commonwealth (or Ireland) and registered within 12 months of birth or if the father was in “Crown Service”.
* incorporation of territory (no persons ever acquired CUKC this way from 1949)
* declaration
* marriage
The only way Obam Jr. could receive that CUKC was at birth, in Kenya Colony and Protectorate in 1961.
The only way that Sr. could receive CUKC-not by birth, he was born 1936- was if he registered, naturalized or by declaration. (He was born in 1936-12 years prior to the commencement of the Act)
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/1179272
FactCheck claims are a RUSE an Attempt o minimize or Cover-up. They are accomplices in the FRAUD/FORGERY with Obama/Soetoro.
No matter what FactCheck say or you, or anyone else, it doesn’t change Obama/Soetoro’s Natural Born Status PERIOD.
Two (2) Citizen Parents are need to be Natural Born Citizen…..even if Obama/Soetoro was born in the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House he still wouldn’t be Natural Born.
50 Grand Juries in 50 States
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
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Kudos for Glenn Beck
FINALLY a Conservative defends the Constitutional using LIEberals “get in your face tactics” WAY TO GO MR BECK…NEVER BECK DOWN to the EROSIONISTS that destroy or Way of Life Every Day.
Read about it here and see video. PASS IT ON:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/03/30/fox-news-host-beck-slams-connecticut-ag-you-are-insult-george-washington
50 States 50 Grand Juries
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
I would Strongly advise “obama/soetoro” NOT TO TRAVEL TO GEORGIA, he may get picked up by Law Enforcement. Let’s make sure he worries about traveling to all 50 States. Of course he will be able to travel in the other 7-10 Obamagination Sates that he believes exist, he can be President of those states. We want a Natural Born Citizen Constitutionally Qualified President for our 50 United States.
Are Governors and Mayors Next to be Removed?
Will obama/soetoro, the “One” Indicted by a Grand Jury, Remove Failed Governors and Mayors? All the states, and by defaults most cities, got Bailouts (Failouts) if it can happen at GM where a CEO is removed, it has to happen at States and Cities. Failed Governors/Mayors of Failed Local Gov’t Have to be Removed as well.
50 States 50 Grand Juries
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
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The satanist that control this country via Israel will decide this matter just like they decided he is the one they wanted to begin with ,wake up!!! nebirupedia.com
The sooner the American people figure out our whole political system is corrupt the better off America will be. Throw all of them out and start from scratch.
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It is unthinkable to any true American Citizen and specially to those like me who came from abroad and bet his life, his wife and children’s lifes on this Great Country. To be silent witnesses to the trashing of the Constitution, our supreme document the very reason for us to be a democracy for the people, by the people. Whitout proof of citizenship Obama election is a fraud and the investigation of how it was allowed to happen NEEDS to be pursued to the end.
This is a just and noble fight. I Do not see the supreme court hearing this case. Powers to be will make it go away. I would suggest that the attorney who are bring this action watch there back. BHO is evil and has strong Ali’s with radical Islam and the IRS.
You can’t make a constitutional argument out of Obamas place of birth The U.S. has been living under a lie since 1933. If the supreme court finds Obama unconstitutional, it has to find everyone in Gov’t , including themselves, unconstitutional….Which would be the correct thing to do. You want change? It will HAVE to come as it did before, by people will to sacrifice it all, and Americans are too dumbed down, or just to plain wrought with cowardice to make it happen.
Let’s try this, you ask me: “Bill, show me your birth certificate.”
So I go to the drawer where my papers are, I open the drawer, I take out the envelope, I open it, I show you my birth certificate.
OK, now how much time did that take? Maximum about three minutes.
Now, if you are Barack Obama how long does it take to show the USA your birth certificate?
The idea that the whole scenario was orchestrated is what I fear the most. That, in fact, those in power (or those seizing power) deliberately and painfully, down to the last detail, have the complete overthrow of our Constitution as the goal seems quite evident at this juncture. ‘We the sheeple majority’, of which I am definitely NOT one of, including the derriere worshiping news media, after having gloated themselves on the false ideas that this is the new era they hoped for, will be too PRIDE-FILLED, to admit their error. This is the most dangerous stupidity of man-kind, as pride leadeth before the fall. The only reason Obama has not handed over the hard evidence, in my humble opinion, is there is truth to the acusations that his legal status was given under false pretense, otherwise, the law abiding, honest people 999 out of 1000, would have submitted to the law. Those in actual presumed power have advised Obama not to do so, to delay the inevitable, in hopes if they drag it out, it will just go away, or be presumed too late to deal with. As with all ‘Secret Societies’, vows unto death are common. This deliberate, planned action, has a hidden agenda, only with absolute certainty of knowledge held by its membership.
Where do I sign up?
Mr. Rapacki does not hold a PhD degree, no more than I do.
drconspiracy, don’t you have the Piled High & Deep degree?