Kerchner v Obama, attorney Mario Apuzzo, July 4, 2009, US Constitution, standing, immunity, Obama not eligible, Obama is a dictator, Youtube video

Barack Obama is not president of the US

Why?

Obama is not a natural born citizen

Obama is a usurper and a dictator

Obama took the office of the presidency of the United States by lies, deception and tactics resembling those of a dictator. Obama was not vetted by the DNC, any state elections office or the United States Congress. No judge that has been presented with the alarming evidence against Obama and no evidence to support his eligibility has done the job they swore to do. Uphold the US Constitution.

Mario Apuzzo filed a lawsuit on February 2, 2009, representing Charles Kerchner and others against Barack Obama, et al. Here are some excerpts from the lawsuit:

“Plaintiff, Charles F. Kerchner, Jr., is a citizen of the United States and a resident of the State of Pennsylvania. He served 33 years in the U.S. Naval Reserves as both a Commissioned Officer and an Enlisted person.”

“It is plaintiff’s duty to support and defend the United States Constitution pursuant to that oath. Additionally, while currently not statutorily subject to recall, by Executive Order of the President or an act of Congress in an extreme national emergency, the President and/or Congress could order people in plaintiff’s status of service to be recalled. Should plaintiff be recalled to active duty, he would need to know whether the President and Commander in Chief who may be giving him orders is in
fact the legitimate President and Commander in Chief and therefore obligate him to follow those orders or risk being prosecuted for disobeying such legitimate orders.”

“To date, no state or federal election official, nor any government authority, has investigated or held hearings and verified that Obama ever established and proved conclusively that he is an Article II “natural born Citizen.”

The defendants have requested more time and received it. Their latest ploy alleges that the plaintiffs have no standing and that the defendants have immunity. On June 28, 2009, Charles Kurchner and Mario Apuzzo were interviewed on the Chalice radio show. This video includes some clips from the audio and some documents from the legal wrangling.

Listen to the entire Apuzzo and Kerchener audio beginning approx at 82:00 minutes:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/PatriotsHeartNetwork/2009/06/29/The-Chalice-Show.mp3?guid=1ca3a577-5720-4bd9-96f1-9b68f7b2027d

View the court documents at Mario Apuzzo’s website:
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

Listen to the Chalice show here:

http://www.patriotsheartnetwork.com/

Clarification of original filing timeline (provided by commenter ramjet767)

“To the Editor:

Just noticed another important point both in your article and in the accompanying YouTube video description paragraph and in the video itself on a slide.  The Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al lawsuit was filed very early in the morning of 20 Jan 2009, 9+ hours before he was sworn in, not in February.  It was later amended twice with the latest amendment, the 2nd Amended Complaint being filed on 9 Feb 2009.  See the copy of the 2nd Amended Case filing document headline which clarifies that the original suit was filed on 20 Jan 2009. You can see that in the headline at this link:”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11317148/

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264 responses to “Kerchner v Obama, attorney Mario Apuzzo, July 4, 2009, US Constitution, standing, immunity, Obama not eligible, Obama is a dictator, Youtube video

  1. Jacqlyn Smith

    They finally did it…..the LIBERAL MOrons finally got Sarah Palin to give up the governors post. She did it to help her state and family. She could not get her job done with them hounding her about every ridiculous thing so she resigned. Go Sarah….we need you in 2012!!!! Let’s get her elected folks…..she is fed up with this politics as usual and so am I!!!! Get rid of the THUGS and put some real Americans in office!!!!

  2. zachjonesishome

    I will certainly support Sarah Palin in whatever role she chooses to serve in. Have a Great Weekend! Zach

  3. Is it just me, or …. anyone else think something may be up?

    Larry’s book is about to hit, The Ebay thing ( who knows), The lawsuits, Sarah stepping down ….

    It’s all too weird. Or is this “just politics” ?

    A while back I read that if Blowbama is removed – then it goes to who ever won the most votes … McCain / Palin …. ????

    Just weird …. weird, weird, weird!!

    Every day it’s like … WTH?

  4. Sarah’s speech definitely sounded like she’s hanging around. She kept saying ” I will work for you …”

  5. And another thing …

    Now Sarah doesn’t have anyone to answer to!!

    She can speak her mind! I hope she runs with it and just puts it out there.

    They’ve already attacked her and her family unmercifully, what does she have to loose? More like … what does she have to gain! … A LOT!

    Spill the beans Sarah … SPILL THE BEANS!!!

    Enough is enough!!

    If there’s anything to the HI COLB – you can bet Sarah knows. Gov. Lingle of HI is her buddy.

    This would be the BEST way to get his a@@ out … by “The One” that he allowed to be attacked over and over.

    Now that she’s not going to be the Gov … Headlines to read:

    “Average Hockey Mom from Wasilla, Alaska declares …. Read my lipstick … ‘Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen !!!’ ”

    Ah, wishful thinking!! But how sweet would that be ?

  6. Gee,nothing like veering off on a tangent in the first handful of comments.Anyway,Mario is doing a good job.The Globalist traitors that are in complete control of our government will get his case knocked out.I’ve heard the shows,but haven’t seen the video.Thanks for posting it.By the way,there is a “who knows?” on the Ebay thing.It is a scam.

  7. Army D.A.V.

    It wasn’t just the Communist party , but there are no conservative capitalist left in the GOP to come to her defense.

    It’s just a one party government now and for years to come……. there will only be rigged elections from now on, forget about term limits .

    Courts , laws , lawyers , Constitution have no effect with the communist party ,they control the courts.

    Congress is the only hope of removing the tyrants, unfortunately our Congress is made up entirely of corrupt communists,progressives globalists .

    The rest are all girly men , worrying about there own pockets and their careers.

  8. Zee,

    Sorry for the tangent.

    My head is ready to explode!!

    Like the Ebay thing, The Lawsuits, API, books, Bigfoot, etc … Nothing seems to stick.

    I would just love for it to come from someone that people will listen to. Since no one else is willing to talk. I think Sarah should go for it !!!

    Sorry, again … Peace!

  9. Army D.A.V.

    Spot on!

    BBL … It’s Happy Hour somewhere!
    I sure need it!

  10. One of the best posts I’ve seen here.Apuzzo is learning the hard truths like Donofrio did.It’s over for this nation.And when we come down,so too does the world and freedom and liberty.Get ready for a rough ride people.— And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:28

  11. Just teasing you Val.I’ve learned that this is pretty open and people share information unrelated to the article.Please get close to the Lord in these trying times.

  12. Tea Parties tomorrow!
    My sign says:

    We are CARBON-based life forms
    Obama’s Plan
    1) Take all of our money and property through Cap and TAX
    2) Then kill us with bad foreign policy and RATIONED health care

  13. Have you ever wondered if somehow the earth has passed into a parallel universe where humans become effected by the “OPPOSITES SYNDROME “where up is really down, left is really right, and a lie is really the truth. Could such an entity be happening. Do you wonder if God thinks this is all really COOL>

  14. Great blog posting.Skip Andy Martin,he’s out in left field.Mario and Charles were excellent.This has never been about having perfect standing or lawsuits.It’s been about conditioning Americans to learn the Constiution is null and void.You can excercise your 1st Amendment but the bootm line is that the government can ignore providing a redress of grievances at will.Researchers on the NWO and history knew it was gone at least as far back as the 1940s,but one could argue 1861.

  15. decentamerican

    i think sarah can do wonders in the private sector, look how successful and famous Gore is……she can do books, lectures, and hell, she can have her own television show on Fox! or be a new Oprah! the skys the limit….politics is nasty, but change (the good kind, not the one the Beast bragged about) can come about outside of politics just as well.

  16. Army D.A.V.

    Mark Levin , great show tonight, 07,03 .

  17. Val,
    May I swerve off with you? I liked your postings
    and especially the thought that Sarah Palin
    could finally speak out—- obama, you are NOT
    a NBC! I can just hear her already. And WHY
    not? I can’t think of any reason why not.
    If she did lead the country in this endeavor
    she would be adored by over half I’m sure and
    have a good chance of winning in 2012.

    Also, like the thought that when usurper fraud
    is thrown out, McCain/Palin step up.

  18. Heard there is a 2 hour special tonight on
    Palin’s decision etc. on Fox at 9:00.

  19. Off Topic News:

    Columbus, Ohio, Rally tomorrow morning at
    8:00 in front of the State House. Guns and the right to bear arms–focus– open carry, guns and bullets to be present (as was stated on local radio).

  20. Zee,

    Thank you. I have been doing a lot of praying lately! I swear God has been tapping on our shoulders for along time!

    Thank you again!

  21. Maddie,

    Wouldn’t it be great? !!! That would be the absolute best !! For all she has gone through … why not just lay it on the line? Put it out there! She can make the rounds – hopefully on Fox – and make her subtle little jabs about being a true American, etc…

    Maybe we should all try to reach her and ask her to do it? I think she has got the b@lls to do it!

    I still believe there is more to this than we know.

  22. Val,
    I’ve been listening to Fox’s comments on Sarah’s
    actions and have heard Sarah’s speech now twice. I am reading between the lines —I think
    she is going to do something big as is leading
    a movement of sorts against what is going on
    right now in DC.

  23. Thank you. I have been doing a lot of praying lately! I swear God has been tapping on our shoulders for along time!

    Thank you again!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    That tapping for me began the night of Nov 4th, after voting and knowing my vote was stolen…….

  24. Maddie,

    That’s what I got from her speech as well. She’s not walking away. I think she just may be up to something. Could anyone balme her? After what she has been put through … she speaks out and what can they say? They have said pretty much anything and everything about her and her family. What more can they say?

    So I hope she some how addresses this situation. I would love it so much!

  25. JJ,

    The tapping starting a long time before that for me. But, when I saw Rev Wright …. that was it for me!!!

    I

  26. truthbetold11

    Evil flourishes when good men door nothing Sarah knows this all to well and is going to DC to bring the light to the fight!

  27. Civis naturaliter natus

    Look, Palin as governor could have initiated a suit under the original jurisdiction of the US Supreme Court. As resigned, she has no more standing that you or me.

    Her resignation was stupid.

    But I smell a rat…O has a history of forcing political foes to resign, by digging up info to destroy them….

  28. Everything in the world is backwards.The lunatics are running the asylum.The few honest civil servants and politiciians of the past few Administrations jumped ship when they saw the planned destruction of this country.Even if the standing is overcome,the defense had made it clear the government is immune from the people,and only has the rigged voting booth of the mob as a recourse.Our Forefathers warned us about this time when a government turns into a mob rule democracy it soon descends into tyranny. Timely post.The birth certificate is a distraction.This goes to the heart of the Constiution with the NBC issue for POTUS eligiblity.A flawless lawsuit would be thrown out of the courts after running through the motions for show.Barry is a usurper. ———– “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Is. 5:20

  29. There is a great website dedicated to forcing
    the media to cover the Obama birth certificate
    issue, but it appears to have been ” hijacked “.

    Check out: 800poundgorillamedia.com

    They still have the links to call FOX and their
    sponsors to boycott them due to lack of
    reporting on this issue.

  30. In some ways, I feel alot of what is happening is to bring us back to God, Jesus, Church, love, forgiveness, peace, and the Bible. I think those of us who believe in a higher power are turning even closer than we were to God. In our hearts, we know what the Bible says about the last days and deep down hope this is not the beginning of the end. Even though we are scared, there seems to be an inner peace. All we can do is pray, take one day at a time, and become as involved as we can to expose Obama for what he is, for what he is trying to do to America, and pray that he will be thrown out of office as well as those in Congress whom are his allies. Also, all those in his cabinet that are as guilty as he is. God Bless America and have a wonderful July 4th with those that are important to you.bkw

  31. BREAKING NEWS….BREAKINGS NEWS…this just played on CNN and MSNBC and all the BEDMATE MEDIA. They just announced why Sarah resigned. She wants to get more qualified to run for President. She is becoming a community organizers, joinning ACORN, Joiing the Chicago Communist Party, Joining Jeremiah Wright’s Church, Traveling to Indonesia, Pakistan and finally to Kenya to become a Kenyan Citizen.

    She is excited about this next endeavor in her life and hopes it will pay off in 2012. Also with this trainning she knows the Media will LOVE HER.

    LIBS FEAR TO HEAR SARAH the TERROR and they themselves

  32. Civis naturaliter natus

    Brenda,

    No we can do more than pray. Prayer is important. But the time is comming for doing what our Forefathers did. When all lawful and peaceful methods are closed to the people by a tyrranical party or government, there remains only one recourse.

    Let us not forget what others sacrified for our liberty and freedom, millions of our men and women in the armed forces through numerable wars, and our forefathres themselves:

    Here is a great post which I quote from Atlas Shrugs:
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/07/happy-birthday-america.html

    —begin quote

    Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? UPDATED: Thanks to Kenneth Solomon

    Adams and Jefferson began to actually like each other. Really. Many of the books I have say so. After all was done and in place with the new Declaration, they were constantly communicating their ideas and thoughts of what took place, why and how. I’d have loved to have met them both.

    Five signers were captured by the British and charged as traitors…… Four during military operations (Arthur Middleton, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward and George Walton) and the fifth (Richard Stockton) solely because of signing the document. No evidence exists of any of them being tortured to death.

    Richard Stockton also violated his signing for independence by securing his release through signing a new oath of allegiance to King George of England. That’s a real definition of a traitor on all sides.

    John Witherspoon lost his son serving in the Revolutionary Army, Abraham Clark had two sons taken prisoner.

    Button Gwinnett died from a duel….. as in “pistols at 10 paces”. He was a serving officer and another officer fought him – reasons unclear/unverified as to the actual cause of the duel, or which of the two was the challenger.

    Carter Braxton of Virginia, inherited his fortune and businesses from family and associates, made it bigger, lost it, made it again, lost it again and so on. He did not die a pauper.

    As happened with many homes, farms and businesses throughout the colonies, vandals and/or soldiers looted the properties of Ellery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Rutledge, and Middleton. As far as any documentation exists, they were not specifically targeted.

    Contrary to popular beliefs, Thomas Nelson’s house was not destroyed supposedly under his own call for fire…. The place still stands in Yorktown VA….. I know….. I’ve been there (on an “I’ll find stuff myself” history tour).

    Shortly after the Declaration was signed, Francis Lewis of New York had his home and properties raided by The British. His wife was arrested after her and many others refused the order to evacuate the area where they lived.

    John Hart’s farm was raided and he had to remain incognito for a little over a year. He then served two terms in the Continental Congress.

    Lewis Morris’s farm was seized and taken over by The British. After the war, his land was returned.

    Phillip Livingston had property seized and he sold off others in order to keep freedom alive for as many people as possible. He died in 1778.

    —end quote

    WE THE PEOPLE TO REFORM THE UNION need to meet in general assembly and peaceable declare the illegitimacy of the Obama regime, the cowardice of our elected officials to oppose him, and denounce the silence of the courts and military. Then we need to declare all elected officials deposed and reconstitute the federal and state governments. When force is used against us, we need to reconstitute state militias and defend our selves.

    Pacifism, an old faux error promoted by communists and socialists, will lead many to think this proposal is revolting, but it is us or them: they want the free people of American exterminated, they want to make us serfs in the NWO and despise the constiution. Its revolution or slavery. Take your pick…

  33. American Patriot

    Mario Apuzzo’s blog has this great post from Vattel, on why we owe the Usuper and his government NO OBEDIENCE:

    ————-

    The Law of Nations, Vattel, 1758, Vol.1, Chapter IV:

    § 46. The Prince ought to respect and support the fundamental laws.

    The prince ought to respect and support the fundamental laws. But when the sovereign power is limited and regulated by the fundamental laws of the state, those laws show the prince the extent and bounds of his power, and the manner in which he is to exert it. The prince is therefore strictly obliged not only to respect, but also to support them. The constitution and the fundamental laws are the plan on which the nation has resolved to labor for the attainment of happiness; the execution is intrusted to the prince. Let him religiously follow this plan; let him consider the fundamental laws as inviolable and sacred rules; and remember that the moment he deviates from them, his commands become unjust, and are but a criminal abuse of the power with which he is intrusted. He is, by virtue of that power, the guardian and defender of the laws: and while it is his duty to restrain each daring violator of them, ought he himself to trample them under foot?

    and then in section 51 ….

    § 51. But the nation may curb a tyrant, and withdraw itself from his obedience.

    . . . As soon as a prince attacks the constitution of the state, he breaks the contract which bound the people to him; the people become free by the act of the sovereign, and can no longer view him but as a usurper who would load them with oppression. This truth is acknowledged by every sensible writer, whose pen is not enslaved by fear, or sold for hire.

  34. Don’t forget to wear a black ribbon to the tea parties tomorrow to protest cap and trade.

  35. Civis naturaliter natus,it’s too late for what you are suggesting.In fact,that is what the thrust of the Citizen’s Grand Juries is all about.They know Barry is a fraud and our government is rotten to the core.They got tired of the eligibility issue being ignored or paid lip service.So they put all the probable cause alleged crimes together and have been indicting Barry on fraud and treason.And they know that the focus on Barry is just the beginning.When there was no coverage from the msm or alternative media,they decided to go to DC on June 29th.Then we had Pidgeon who came up with the online nat.GJ months ago,but chickened out,which doesn’t matter because the American Grand Jury took over as related above.We have the Constitutional Congress forming[not to be confused with a Con Con],and was announced in Dec.2008 in that long google video presentation in DC.That is scheduled for September,which sadly is too late as the Endgame is slated for July 11th to Sept.11th or thereabouts.The fact is that not enough people grasp how late in the hour we are to the end of the road.And too many people that believe they are well-informed still parrot the news from FOX and other msm spin sources.They buy into all the distractions and misdirections of the day,like MJ,Palin resigning[she didn't stand up against Barry,but is still idolized],and the Ebay scam.When educated as to the psy ops they are falling for they admit that they know it’s a scam but still have hope,i.e., denial.It is cognitive dissonance on a grand scale.The NWO elites have steered the faux protets like Tea Parties and 9-12 movements by using CFR-controlled msm shills.I’ll take faith and prayer over a disorganized revolution any day of the week.People aree too dumbed down to know the enemy and fight effectively.But it is coming and you’ll have your chance to take your pick,and choose what you want to do.All other options have been exhausted.This fight against a tyrannical government did not begin with the usurper.It’s been going on for years.We are now at the end of the road.So,I understand your viewpoint.But we are simply out of time.Just look here at how some people are doing their best to educate,and yet the bulk of comments are always on unimportant matters or gossip.It’s a microcosm of the world.A denial of reality.Whatever is in the daily news is what the majority or mob views as important,when that is the opposite.What is left out of the msms is what needs to be discussed.I’m sure you are aware of the GJ’s as they are being mentioned in comments here.But here;s a link to the Con.Congress,which is a great idea but a few years too late.They took too long to organize it.— http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/

  36. Correection—- Continental Congress…. You know,that idea would’ve picked up more steam had he come up with a different name.Alot of people think he is talking about the Constiutional Convention that would rewrite the Constitution.Even tohough I knew of this months ago,I still got the title wrong in the above post.Anyway,it’s not only the end of America,but of freedom for the whole world.Everyone ios watching us as we allow the destruction of this nation.

  37. I will say that this nation is under God’s Judgment.So,my prayers are for protection of His people and the repentance of lost souls before the end.Anyone that denies the innocent blood of millions on our hands is living in a fantasy world.God is not mocked,in the fianl analysis,whether by Roe v Wade or traitors in our gocernment that scoff and mock God.

  38. Civis naturaliter natus

    Zee, WTP’s Continenal Congress is not what I am talking about.

    They are a small non profit, govt. abuse resistence group, with a long history of sui generis interpretations of the Constitution. They were not founded to opposed a usurper president, and that is not their central goal, agenda or time line. They have no direct interest in it, that is why their congress is now scheduled for Thanksgiving…

    However, your comments about the memorization that is taking place, as is evident even on this blog is right on.

    Other blogs refuse to discuss the inevitable and put out constantly the pablum pil that we must be patient and let the courts and law work, wait for the elections and trust the Republicans or Palin to save us…

    Folks forget thath Palin and the Republican Party are membes of the same NWO political organizations as Zero’s gang.

    They are delusional if they believe this, but since it is easier to turn on the TV and watch the propaganda all day long, that think about issues and take definitive stands, they implicitly choose slavery.

    You know in a nation that will no longer defend the unborn or prohibit the most vile unnatural acts, there is a certain sort of vicious softness of mind which makes the average man no longer capable of accepting an unchanging definition of anything, let alone contemplate risking life and apparent liberty for transcendent or eternal values.

    The patriots will not save this country. Only Christians can do that. Whether by long prolonged prayer or decisive political or military action.

    Most who talk about this in realistic terms, still are defeatests. Your own comments are great, but you too have also surrendered to despair.

    I have not…

  39. Yes,I was just going to mention the 501 c3 status and how that is another mechanism of government control.As I said ,it’s the end of the road.

  40. I haven’ surrendered.I live and deal in reality.I know what is coming and have warned and prepared for over 20 years.

  41. False hope and jingoistic rhetoric helps bot one person one bit.Look around,it’s coming down this year.If you can organize things in a few weeks,more power to you.

  42. I hear you though.I’m not disagreeing with your views,but the fact that time has run out.So,don’t take offense.

  43. Keep in mind of the Strong Delusion of the Last Days. “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
    that they should believe a lie:”2 Thess.2:11And– “I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”Luke 18:18 ……….. These are the days in which we are living.The worship of Barry and celebs and earth itself[Gaia Worship]. So,awakeing the masses is one helluva job you have cut out for you.

  44. Hi Civis naturaliter natus .I think you misconstrue what a few of of us here are saying.We are not defeatists,but have researched the Illuminati New World Order Conspiracy for years,and see it in its final stages,and contrast that with the information falling on deaf ears.There is not going to be any mass awakening.Quite the contrary.There is a falling away from the truth.Not just faith in Christianity,but in all truth.And the bulk of humanity that is learning the truth,still have no discernmnet to connect the dots,and thus can’t envision such monstrous evil of epic proportions,that they feel the need to cling to authority figures in the mainstream media and in politics.So,what you are proposing may well be true,and thousands of patriots have uttered the same thoughts for decades,it is simply too far into the Luciferian’s “Endgame” of their “Great Work” to organize the masses.So,the point I think others are making is that this is nmore than a physical war we are facing,but a spiritual war that has a far greater significance.Had this been something we were discussing a century ago in a pub,we’d be on board with you.It’s not about pacifism or defeatism.You are misinterpreting the situation because faith is being brought into the equation.It is about discerning the seasons,signs,and times— and acting accordingly.We know the battle is won By the Lord already.But if you think you can make war with the Beast,you are on your own my brother////////////// Revelation 13
    1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

    5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    9If any man have an ear, let him hear.

    10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

    12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
    Barry is scheduled to meet with the false prophet on July 13th.These are strange times indeed.And no,we don’t know for sure if it’s all coming down in the projected timeframe of the next 3 months,but it appearts so,as it is all in the open now.They always telegrapgh their plans in exoteric manners when the time is near.The esoteric plans are made manifest just before execution.

  45. Also,I would say it is false witness to say a person is in despair or defeatis because they are facing the grim reality of the lateness of the hour.I do not despair.I’m not a defeatist.I know what we are up against.I won’t willingly march off to Fema Camps.But once there,I will be beheaded by the guillotines they have ready for us,before I renounce my faith.[Rev.20:4]

  46. Civis naturaliter natus

    Messenger,

    You misunderstand the efficacy of grace, the constancy of Christ and the power of His eternal Sacrifice. His grace is offered equally to all ages, and His mercy ensures that in those ages where witness to Him and His laws is more sacrificial, that He pours out even greater graces and obtains from the Father by the propitiation of His Sacred Blood even greater power for His saints on earth to work heroic witnesses and deeds.

    You are failing in the virtue of hope, my friend…

    Hope is what makes Christians citizens of the world to come and gives us the power to overcome all obstacles and injusticies in this world.

    “Have faith, I have over come the world” says the Lord Jesus. And St. Paul says to the saints, “This is your victory, your faith”.

    By the mere act of having faith, we are raised out of this world and attain at eternal heroism. That is why 100′s of thousands were able to lay down their lives for Christ in the evil and corrupt Roman Empire. That is the faith that gave birth to the notion of human liberty which inturn inspired the founders of our great Nation.

    That is why, what they did, we can do today, no matter how powerful and forceful the works of Satan and his allied in this world become. And this too is prophesized, because it is by the faith of 2 humble Christian men, in the end times, who bear the prophetic names of Elijah and Elisha, that the Antichrist will be cast down. That means before the end times, men who have faith in Christ and the humility to risk all to serve Him can do similar deeds of righteousness, though fitting for their lower level of holiness.

    That is why we need to preech success and victory and not defeat. True Christians always preach that. Evan false Messiah’s preach confidence. Weak Christians only mumble about things being too bad in this world.

    We must remember that we shall be judged not on the basis of our hope, but on the basis of our faith at work in deeds…

  47. Civis naturaliter natus.I agree with the others here on Scripture .You are twiting the Gospel message into a Dominionist heresy.A Kingdom Now false theology.Are weapons are not carnal,but spiritual in pulling down strongholds.And if you prefer to live by the sword and pervert history,then it is your choice to die by it as well.It is an apostate and pseudochristian that calls those with a strong faith “mumblers of weak words”.And I believe Scripture about the definition of faith and salvation,not your personal interpretation.I notice others back up their position with facts and Scripture,whereas you are preaching a social gospel and relying heavily on Roman Catholicism’s emphasis on works . For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    Not of works, lest any man should boast.Eph.2:8-9
    One can battle evil with the Sword of the Spirit.And as others have stated,this is unlike any other time in history.The view you have on physically battling the Antichrist is unscriptural.The mighty deeds and exploits given to us through grace has nothing tom do with guns and tanks.It is you that misunderstand the whole counsel of God,and what grace is in its entirety.Jesus told us His Kingdom is not of this world.And yet,you twist Scripture to make it appear that grace will make us into physical warriors.And you heap derision on those that do not have a myopic view of God’s Word.For every battle you can name rightly fought by Christians,as not one person here has said it is wrong to every engage in war, far more could be cited that were fought by nominal Believer’s with a twisted view of Scripture and under the cloak of religion.I don’t think you really have a clue as to the times in which we are living and how we know exactly what is transpiring and is going to happen according to prophecy.How on earth you believe you can undo a growing apostasy and make war against the beast is beyond me.Perhaps,you think the kingdom is to be built here on earth,a dominionist theology.Maybe you believe you can work your way into heaven by those good works.Whatever it is,it is not coming from God’s Word.And understand,I’m not talking about submitting to government or other false teachings popular today.I belong to no denomination or sect.But I know all the bizarre teachings and doctrines of them all. Your last line is fromthe pit of hell.Read the book of Hebrews and Galatians and Ephesians and Revelation.They all run contrary to the drivel you are spewing out.Your comments in the past were okay.But your spiritual views are not Biblical Christian views by any stretch of the word Christian.

  48. Civis naturaliter natus,you also say that us “weak” Christians point out all the bad things.You are correct.If I could go back in time I could point out many good things for you.Unfortunately,besides a nice picnic at a park or swimming in a lake and enjoing God’s creation,there isn’t anything good in this world anymore.There are good battles being waged against evil,but certainly no good news to share with people living in the real world.Again,this is a social gospel of the televangelists that you are preaching.They love the “name it and claim it” doctrine.Or the we are all “little gods” doctrine from hell.Maybe you are a Mormon.I don’t know.That would explain alot of what you believe and saying in a most perverted manner.Or as I said if you are a Dominionist,then naturally you believe we are to conquer earh for God,when the Lord saith–Vengeance is mine— Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.Rom. 12:19 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.Gal.5:17 The Sriptures you do quote are taken out of context and become a pretext for a twisted theology.

  49. I was discussing with a buddy, the irrelevancy of the eligibility issue. Whether it is the “BC” angle, or even the “NBC” (dual-citizenship) angle, it is all irrelevant, because the Constitution is irrelevant. It is not dead, because the Constitution was never a living organism. (living document). It is simply non-existent. The Constitution is only relevant for existing republic, and nothng else. If a republic does not exist, then neither does the Constitution for which it was established.

    The “republic” became non-existent beginning in 1837, but was not codified in law until 1913. The damage (today) is so intensive sense, that it is irreparable without inducing total collapse. Total collapse is inevitable, simply by virtue of men (citizens) defying the “laws of nature,” and more importantly — “Nature’s God.” (See Roger sherman’s “A Caveat Against Injustice.” The basis for Article I, Section X of the U.S. Constitution.)

    When one recognizes the collapsing foundation (Washington D.C.), because of decades of rot, he must flee and get clear of the inevitable falling debris and refuse. Lewrockwell.com correctly identifies the 4th of July as “Secession Day,” for it is the day (1776) the United States of America declared secession from the Kingdom of England, and in 1789 established a republic of its own.

    Today, the federal government, centered in Washington D.C., is a worse tyranny than George III can could ever hope to imagine in his wildest dreams. For any liberty to be enjoyed by any individual in the American states, they must secede from the federal monster. It is their last hope.

    Even if one thinks himself a theological scholar of the highest order, no one for certain knows how close this planet is to Armageddon, according the Revelation of St. John. Certainly, no one in his right mind, should “Immanentize the Eschaton.” To do so, is tantamount to playing God himself.

    Humans can do only what humans can do. To lay down and wait for supernatural deliverance, is neither Scriptural, nor is it practical and healthy for the human psyche. What individuals can do, is cut themselves off from the present and known (apparent) beast. That beast is Washington D.C. Individual sovereign states must secede to the best of their God given ability.

    If this proves impossible, or too costly, especially in human blood, then Armageddon may well be closer than we think. Individual men must do all in their power to secure liberty for themselves, but concede in the end, that God’s will be done…

  50. Lastly,you should study both the old covenant and the new covenant and put this all into perspective.The OT alwatys has to be filtered through the NT prior to formulating any doctrine.So,you are barking up the wrong tree if you want to go into all the OT battles.They had a purpose and are part of history,but the OT never stands alone.The prrof texts are need from the NT if you go back to the OT to try to justify the types of heretical views you are making here.I’ll leave it others to defend the faith and there character on their own.But thus far I agree with the others here that have shared their faith,but not the unbiblical pottage you just dumped on us here.

  51. jcd…yes,I’ve gone over all that on many blogs.And the standing problems in these cases goes back to 1946.

  52. jcd,we are commanded in Scriture to watch the signs in the sun,moon,and star and on earth to know when that time is near.It has nothing to do with trying to bring about Armageddon.The Luciferians are the ones doing that.Pike wrote the blueprints for the three world wars via demonic channeling in 1871.The first two went off as planned.And the third one is shaping up as written.It parallels Scripture.So in order not to be decived by these hellish lies we must watch what is going on in the world.

  53. Civis naturaliter natus

    Wow, I never imagined that so many can hate the teaching of the Bible, and quote scripture at the same time. Infact, they did not quote scripture, I did, and their denials only prove they don’t have the faith.

    First of all, Christ Jesus Himself said we should clothe the poor, help the needy.

    He also, said, that we should render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars. That means we should obey rightful authority, and St. Paul says we should do the same. But righful authority does not exist when the transgression of the Constitution is made by a usurper, therefore it is the duty of every Christian to uphold the rightful authority, just as it was the duty of every Jew to support King David against his rivals.

    Lee you probably never even read the Bible cover to cover, I have done so more than several times.

    As for a dominationist heresy, what on earth are you talking about, never heard of that term.

    God constituted the Kingdom of Jerusalem in the OT. If advocating that God’s people should restore the rule of law is heretical, then your send of heretical puts you outside Christ’s fold, because all authority comes from God, therefore all usurpers are enemies of God. And as a Christian you must hold that God’s enemies are your enemies.

    Our conviction as Christians that we must live for the world to come, does not and has never meant that we ought not be just in the present world. As a citizen my duty is to uphold the rule of law, and that means if I don’t Christ Jesus will damn me for my failing to do my duty. Your theology Lee is pagan and faux Christianity….as is obvious to anyone who reads the Bible.

  54. It’s not about sitting down and doing nothing.But what Civis naturaliter natus is saying is a Kingdom Now theology nowhere in Scripture.Show me in Scripture where it says we are to physically wage war on the Antichrist.Not happening friend.There are no passages stating that at all.I’m not talking about fighting evil and corruption,but of literally waging war on the Antichrist.That is not in God’s Word.Read it.It’s easy to rationalize things.But don’t say it’s in Scripture unless you can back it up.Some people have a poor view of the omnipotence of God to make light of his Divine nature and control over human events.Every time I ask a loud mouth to back it up with Scripture they either pull a verse out of context,usually from the OldTestament,or ignore the issue and comtinue to ad hominem attack Christians that follow God’s Word and not manmade doctrines,or touchy-feely personal interpretations.

  55. Civis,there you go again,telling Believvers they hate the Word,when that is not true.It is lies that are hated.And whether you understand Dominionism or other doctrines doesn’t matter to me,fo I know what I hear from someone and can identify their worldview.You are not preaching Scriptural doctrines.

  56. Civis,please give it a rest.You are not saying anything that is based on the Holy Bible.I’ve heard what you are saying many times,and it is not of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

  57. And bless you Brenda for your prayers.Civis,you need to find a Holy Bible and read it from cover to cover.You are making up new age type doctrines or kingdom-building dogma.I don’t buy that christ-consciousness crap or your take on grace.

  58. Bless you Mira and Brenda.I’m out of here.Have Messenger respond to the attack on his faith by that civis guy.I’m sure he’ll try to educate him.

  59. oops,I meant jcd,lee,and Brenda.

  60. @lee 6:27 am

    I agree with you in principle, about “signs in the heavens, etc.” However, that is something individuals do within the context of the “ecclasia,” within the spiritual realm (heavenly kingdom).

    Within the civil realm (earthly kingdom), this cannot and must not be practiced in a pluralistic society. It is an affront to individual liberty, and each individual’s conscience, and is tantamount to establishment of a theocracy.

    Each state has the right of secession. Texas itself has it codified in its own Constitution. It is each state’s duty and responsibility to exercise that right when all other recourse is exhausted. That “exhaustion point” is very near, if in fact it has not already arrived.

    We are not here to discuss theological and ecclesiastical doctrine. This is not the appropriate forum for such discussions.

  61. Civis naturaliter natus

    Ok for you folks who never read the Bible, or forgot what you read. I’ll cite scripture.

    Revelations 14:13, the Holy Ghost says of the just, that “they may rest from their labours, for their works do follow them”….

    Greek Original & English Source: http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/rev14.pdf

    O.K. for those who you who think that works are not important to the Holy Ghost, you must admit you are in error…for one scripture is sufficient proof to the believer.

    As for the comparison I made between the 2 great prophets of Revelations who fought the Antichrist, and men of our days, I did not imply that the Antichrist will be defeated by force of arms, but rather than men ought to oppose him. Infact in Rev. 13:7, we see that the Beast wages war on the Saints, and defeats them by God’s allowance. That means that the Saints fought back, because you cannot have a war when only 1 side is fighting…thus you are proven wrong again, Lee.

    In the same book, chapter 9, vv. 20-21, we see that those who did not do penance on earth for their sins were punished by God: ergo there are some works if done out of sorrow and for the purpose of making amends for transgressing God’s laws, do make you pleasing to God. That’s Scripture. If you don’t believe it, create your own religion, but don’t call yourself a bible believing Christian.

    As for the OT and NT, the NT does not cancel the OT, but fullfils it, just as Jesus taught, “I have come not to bring the Law to naught but to fulfill it.”

    The cerimonial law of the OT is abolished, but the moral precepts remain: this is St. Paul’s teaching in Romans and the rest of his letters: he condemns the efficacy of the cerimonial works of the Law, and shows that prior to faith and without faith, works are dead. The implication is obvious, because Paul also cites that he has done what he has donen out of faith, thus faith with works are not dead but fulfill God’s will for us.

    Finally, it was the Jews who wrote Maccabees and praised the faithful Jews who fought a physical war to restore the rightful dominance of the true Religion in Israel. Catholics did not invent the book. Christians for 2000 years have also read it. It is more probable to me, since it gives with these other scripture passages, that it also presents the true concept of moral duty in times of lawlessness.

    However, I also know how to look at things from a practical point of view.

    I know that your views, Lee, do not jive with Our Founding fathers, because if they had them they never would have started a revolution. Therefore you enjoy the liberties they won for you with their blood, though you do not share their views of religion. Ok. Then, move on elsewhere to some non-patriotic blog, and stop attacking us who hold the save views on religion as our Founding Fathers.

    Finally, if Obama needs someone who claims to be Christian to convince Christians to accept his tyranny, then you surely would fit the job description, because in the end, your arguments only lead to compliance to the usurper. And that is why, perhaps, you attack me…

  62. Civis naturaliter natus

    Finnaly, I have said what I have said, not out of a desire to be contrarian nor to offend, but to goad my fellow citizens to open their eyes to the truth, and Christians, that they may know that the cause we espouse is just in Christ’s eyes, as the Bible teaches.

  63. Never said anything about establishing anything of a religious nature in government.And yes,secession is viable.That has nothing to do with denying the spiritual dynamics at play in the world,or what is trasnspiring in the wordl.And the two cannot be divorced if elaborating on geopolotical events if a complete understanding is the goal of any thinking person.And the only reason I go off topic is becuase very few comments here every address the article post anyway.I didn’t know you set the parameters for the discussions here.And incidentally,there is no such thing as a neutral form of government,so the pluralist society vs. a theocracy is a myth.Secularism is what most Western Governments have become.Nature abhors a vacuum.It was a state sanctioned denomination the Founders were against,not Christianity.Their writings are replete with reverence for Jesus Christ.Yes,we can talk about the Constiution and the masonic references to “natire’s god” and so on,but that doesn’t diminish the Christian roots of this nation.Having said that,if someone says something unbiblical I’m speaking up.And if talking about ebay articles,Palin,or other things on an article on articles that have nothing to do with the subject of the article,it shouldn’t offen you to hear avout God.Civis opened up a can of worms and I spoke my peace,and am done.Ironic,that you recently posted with your religious take on all this.Because some of our views differ you have a problem with that,and dictate what others may say.No problem,I’ll go elsewhere.Just don’t be a hypocrite about it.All I’m pointing out is that there is no time for all this secession or revolution business.Not because of Armageddon,which is coming,but rather that the plans for intentional civil war and revolution are at the door.So getting one’s house in order is imperative.If you don’t want to,don’t.If you or civis think you can organize revolution or mass secession of states,go about your business as the nation collapses in front of your eyes and Fema and freign troops knock on your unprepared .door.Well,that’s it.Take care poeple.Time to find people elsewhere with ears to hear and eyes to see.

  64. One last thing.Bye to everyone here.And jcd and civis….I’m praying for you guys.Seriously.No hard feelings.You are undiscerning,and likely young men.I have no time for games.Nor do I wish to argue or waste my time.Bye everyone.Please don’t lose faith.And don’t believe the lie that “hope” is a bad thing of weak people.

  65. Good moring all.I see we have a little dictator here in jcd.lol!Lee,if you come back to read the articles or comments,I’ll be over the usual blogs I’ve seen you at.I’ll give you my email at one of those.I’m done here as well.Let civis do his kingdom building and saving the world here with jcd.I too want to reach people that are seeking the truth and want to learn how to prepare for what is coming.And yes,I have an undying hope and faith in Jesus Christ,not a masonic god of the new age movement or the NWO.Goodbye folks and take care of yourselves.

  66. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY COUNYRY. LET US PRAY THAT SARAH PALIN WITH HER STANDING WILL BECOME OUR JOAN OF ARK. -

  67. ms.helga,be careful with the “prayer” word.jcd and Civis naturaliter natus think us true Christians are weak by praying and having hope in Christ.I’m finished here too.Mess and Lee,I don’t know which blogs or forums you go to so stop over at rightsideoflife or IO blog some time.I would like to share more with you guys.Thanks.Peace and love in the Lord Jesus Christ everyone.p.s.yes,I agree about the masonic and kingdom building comments as well.They might be unaware of their beliefs you know.Bllog learners and all.Why jcd thought Lee was talking about merging religion to state is strange.He never said that in any post.He just shared his faith as I did.That civis guy must have “another gospel” and “another Jesus” that Paul talks about in the epistles. The trashing of hope and faith is not in my King James Bible.

  68. truthbetold11

    When the son of man returns will he find faith! Thats what i’m living for.

  69. Civis naturaliter natus

    For the record, it is obvious that I never trashed faith or hope, I spoke against those whose hope and faith do nothing…there’s a difference: between a dead faith and a dead hope, and a living faith and a living hope, that work deeds of justice. That’s why I do not understand where Lee or Mira or anyone else justify “from the bible” not imitating our Founding Fathers. Its a myth that all of our Founding Fathers were Masons, Deists, and not faithful Christians. Nor does it make any sense to me to “weep” on blogs about Obama not following the Constitution, if you think the Constitution is not worthy fighting for.

    Our Lord said, “When the Son of Man returns, will he find faith?” — He asked a question, and the Greek makes it clear that it was a question to which He expected a negative response, because too many want a religion of the lip’s, that justifies doing nothing just in this world. That is the entire sense of the Gospel, that is what Jesus condemned the Pharasees for. That’s not a social Gospel. The notion of a “social Gospel” Christianity, was a socialist take on the Gospel, where soical action replaced a morality which looked to the salvation of the souls of men. I am not talking about replacing such a morality, I am merely saying that part of such a morality includes defending one’s nation. King George transgressed the rights of the Colonists, who in English law ought not have been oppressed as King George was doing. The Founding Fathers who were Christians, for the most part, not Masons or Deists, held that their Christian duties required that they no longer recognize as King him who would not recognize them as subjects w. rights.

  70. truthbetold11,

    I’m with you!!!

  71. CORRECTION:
    SORRY left out the urine part LOL:
    LIBS FEAR TO HEAR SARAH the TERROR and they pee themselves, like little puppy dogs, when they hear her name.

  72. Civis naturaliter natus

    Ҥ 51. But the nation may curb a tyrant, and withdraw itself from his obedience.

    . . . As soon as a prince attacks the constitution of the state, he breaks the contract which bound the people to him; the people become free by the act of the sovereign, and can no longer view him but as a usurper who would load them with oppression. This truth is acknowledged by every sensible writer, whose pen is not enslaved by fear, or sold for hire.”

    That’s a great quote, American Patriot!

  73. truthbetold11

    Ah perfect timing!!! Sarah baby made a bunch of vactioning lib journalist get phone calls from their bosses and say get back in the office and write some trashy articles about Sarah. To bad its a celebration weekend and even a bunch of libs need a break from their trashy ways. The press is scrambling for info. The only thing they need to be ready for is the onslaught of a full offensive strike to help save our country from this dictator in the making. God Speed!

  74. What will Sarah do Next?

    She is going to WASHINGTON with her BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN HAND to show the USURPER Obanana that ONLY NBC AMERICANS ARE ALLOWED TO BE PRESIDENT.

    I think back to Bush’s first 6 yrs when Republicans were in Charge and I am starting to miss the America we had at that time.
    Why did so many get fooled by the Bedmate Media and ACORN into Electing a KENYAN President? Obanana MISSION ACCOMPLISHED you did the IMPOSSIBLE make people LOVE Bush AGAIN.

  75. A Village in Texas got their Idiot BACK, a Village in KENYA is still missing theirs but they can’t LOCATE him because they don’t know his REAL NAME. Is it Barry Soetoro, Barry Dunham, Barack Obama,…?

    SARAH “The LIE-berals’ TERROR” Leads by EXAMPLE…….OBAMA “The Kenyan Plunderer-in-Thief” follow her lead, RESIGN.

  76. Civis naturaliter natus

    What Vattel says in n. 51, is what I also have thought for a long time, regarding the Usurper. With his inaugeration, we citizens of the USA no longer have any duty to pay allegience to the Presidency and the govt. which accepts the usurper.

    There is now a vacuum of alliegience, and the Joint Chiefs could just as well arrest him and try him in military court and sentence him, and call for new elections, as not. Because we are in a situation where the Constitution gives us no solution, because it never addresses such an eventuality.

    Any cop could arrest Obama or any other of his government, or any Senator or Rep, for treasonous actions. The Supreme Court itself is teetering on questions of its own authority. If it allows Obama to appoint another justice, it had defacto in the most solemn manner accepted his tyranny, and thus commits treason also.

    I believe, that definitively, when that happens all three branches are comprimises: Congress for foisting the usurper upon the nation, and Scotus for acquiesing to that usurpation. The state goverments who do not break ties with such a faux government also then break their contracts with their own people and their own citizens no longer owe them any obedience.

    The only sane solution is for the People to recognize this, and as I sais, reconstitute the govts of the state and the USA, by a simple declaration of nullity of the authority of those who recognize the Usurper, then proceed to hold elections at every level, and make a requirement for running for elected office, in addition to the current laws on the books, the acceptance of such a decree of nullity. Then we all need to send in our taxes to the addressses of the newly elected state and federal governements, and simply ignore Obama’s faux regime and the treasonous state regimes that follow him.

    If we are attacked or detained for doing this, then we have the right of self defense.

    This is a solution very similar to our Founding Fathers.

  77. So much talk about Deists.

    Did anyone bother to look up what the root of the word Deist is and what DEIST meant at that time?

    Clearly most o fthe Foundings Fathers and many generations thereafter were very religious.
    All one has to do is open their eyes. Look at almost all towns in America WHAT WAS AT THE CENTER OF THAT TOWN? Yes a church.
    Ring them Church Bells EVERYDAY AGAIN.

    Everything started and ended with a prayer.

    Still have doubts?
    Google Washington’s and Lincoln’s THANKSGIVING DAY PROCLAMATIONS.

    If you still have doubt you are an EROSIONIST DENIER.

    Happy Independence Day (porbably our last one with Liberty) and God Bless US

  78. Val,
    I’ll be back here a little later when we can
    discuss more about the current issues.
    In the mean time, God bless you for your
    efforts and wonderful spirit of trying and
    never giving up—like the regulars we know
    on this great blog. Take care and Happy
    4th of July to all true Americans who
    love this country—long may her flag
    wave over us and may our US Constitution
    be righted once more!

  79. What has happened to this site?

    And who is the subject of the thread — Kerchner, Kurchner, or Kerchener? Such carelessness with a person’s name implies carelessness with facts.

  80. Zee // July 4, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Keep in mind of the Strong Delusion of the Last Days. “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
    that they should believe a lie:”2 Thess.2:11And– “I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”Luke 18:18 ……….. These are the days in which we are living.The worship of Barry and celebs and earth itself[Gaia Worship]. So,awakeing the masses is one helluva job you have cut out for you
    ________________

    Zee,

    Yes B.O. hijacked the Presidency, but
    John Nelson Darby hijacked your Kingdom, and diluted it with heretical eschatology, and with it’s failed chronology/dispensationalism.

    Judgement is suppose to begin at the house of God first isn’t it ?

    What if God told you that the Kingdom of God has already started, that Matthew 24 is past tense, along with Revelation ? and Daniel also ?

    Would you believe him?

    Do you rightly divide the word of truth ?

  81. Civis naturaliter natus

    Anony mouse:

    This is a blog: typographical errors occur to haste, or insufficient use of the keyboard, not to carelessness with facts. Citizen wells also makes no mistakes as you assert…

    Happy Succession Day….!

  82. TO: Lee, Messenger and others.

    DON’T GIVE UP or GIVE IN, there are many here that appreciate your viewpoints as well as others. This blog like the world is big and has room for most points of view.

    I believe we are all on the smae side and division among our ranks only weakens us.

  83. Messenger @ // July 4, 2009 at 3:00 am

    I feel this way……how can we at this time win a war that has been waged for 50 (or more) years against us?? A secret war we were unaware of?? The Illuminati NWO fiends have us caught up in this and it’s now too late for us…

    Defeatists?? Or Realists??

    Look to God for our answers is my advice….I do feel the calm before the storm.

  84. Is this old news ?- At exactly 1 minute and 19 (1:19)seconds into this speech he says “why my father came to America” proving beyond a doubt that he is NOT an NBC (natural born citizen). Both mother and father must be born in the U.S. As a little sidebar- if you reverse 1:19 you get 9:11.

  85. PS – THIS WAS THE CAIRO SPEECH

  86. Happy Declaration of Independence Day!

  87. all is cares about is mooslums. he makes me sick, the killer on Donald Young.

  88. citizenwells

    Don’t get me wrong.
    I am not a Michelle Obama fan.
    It is her attitude and past that concern me.
    The inner beauty or ugliness.

  89. And for this fitting occasion I bring forth a draft of our NEW Declaration of Independence:

    —————————————

    In The United States, July 4, 2009
    THE UNANIMOUS DECLARATION OF THE PEOPLE OF THE 50
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
    deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
    Such has been the patient sufferance of these United State; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
    The history of the present US government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over the people of these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
    It has refused its Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    It has prevented the passing Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till its Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, it has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    It has abused by passing other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    It has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness its invasions on the rights of the people.
    It has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    It has endeveavored to increase the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners; allowing illegal foreigners to enjoy the fruits of the People’s labor without recourse.
    It has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing follow the Judiciary responsibilities and power specified in the Constitution.
    It hs made Judges dependent on its Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    It has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.
    It has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    It has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. It has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by by our laws; giving its Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us For protecting them.
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent.
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Grand Jury.
    For abolishing the free System of United States Constitutional Law.
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments.
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever..
    It has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of its Protection and waging War against us.
    It has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, and destroyed the Lives of our people.
    It is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    It has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers.
    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A president, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the leader of a free People.
    Nor have We been wanting in attention to our U.S. brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
    We, therefore, the Civilian Representatives of the United States of America, in a new General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United States are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the Usurping Federal Government, and that all political connection between them and the United Statues, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

  90. Jeff
    Wonderful writing

  91. Civis naturaliter natus

    Well, you have cited most of the original, but left in most of the original grievances which are not as applicable today.

    Ms. Helga,

    To be a NBC it is sufficient, when being born in the USA, to have parents who were naturalized citizens before the birth. So that qutoe does not really nail it: his autobiography does, when he says his father was Kenyan. His COLB does when he claims an African as his father. Factchecks does when it admits his British Citizenship at birth.

    Oh, and Citizen, I was wrong, you spell Kerchner wrong in the second paragraph of the post at the top of this page…

  92. ms helga

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY COUNYRY. LET US PRAY THAT SARAH PALIN WITH HER STANDING WILL BECOME OUR JOAN OF ARK. -
    ***

    Elabroate more on SP’s standing, please

  93. Maddie,

    Thank you for the kind words. I will be back later too, and hope to continue our chat.

    I do wish that Sarah would take the stand and speak out on the Usurper.

    Peter @10:08 , How do we get to her and ask her to do that? That is exactly what I wish for!!

    This past election has really opened my eyes to the sexism in this country!
    Enough already with attacking strong women! I hope Sarah will be “The One” that exposes him! I appreciate the hard work that Berg, Leo, Orly, Mario, etc.. are doing. But they can’t get the attention of the media to cover this. Sarah can! All she has to do is schedule a press conference … and … Boom! Hammer that nail in the coffin!

    … Oh happy day! … sigh

    Can someone here get a contact for Sarah? We should all go on a writing campaign to her and ask her to help us take back our country!

  94. Lame Cherry does it again. My days of reading WND and Joe Farah are over.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/07/independence-day.html

  95. A quote from Lame Cherry on Sarah Palin:

    “I know a great deal more, but knowing is sufficient for now as the idiotry questioning what Gov. Sarah Palin is advancing toward now “

  96. BREAKING NEWS….BREAKINGS NEWS…this just played on CNN and MSNBC and all the BEDMATE MEDIA. They just announced why Sarah resigned. She wants to get more qualified to run for President. She is becoming a community organizers, joinning ACORN, Joiing the Chicago Communist Party, Joining Jeremiah Wright’s Church, Traveling to Indonesia, Pakistan and finally to Kenya to become a Kenyan Citizen.

    She is excited about thid next endeavor in her life and hopes it will pay off in 2012. Also with this trainning she knows the Media will LOVE HER.

    LIBS FEAR TO HEAR SARAH the TERROR. When she speaks they pee themselves like rabbid puppies.

    Palin/Romney 2012
    Orly Taitz Secretary of State
    Larry Sinclair Special Liason for Suicidal & Asylum Seeking Lie-berals.

  97. Have a Great 4th and may God Bless America.

    Thanks for the support on my Obama Tea Party survey!

    Off to our local TP.
    Will be plugging Larry’s book and carrying my sign.

  98. Jeff, this is a masterpiece and needs to go viral.

    Thank you for putting all we know to be true so eloquently.

    Happy Independence Day to you and everyone at CW.

  99. Rocknee – I am of the understanding that Leo Berg lost his first case to have a Supreme Court Hearing was that he had no standing. In other words he was a peon. Well Our Sarah was definitely injured in this because she lost being the VP if all the checks had been made on the Usurper. Am I wrong?

  100. ms helga

    I thought that too, but if McCain was not a NBC then the Repub ticket is void as well.

    Any thoughts?

  101. Think Alan Keyes would have more standing as a President candiate than Sarah P.

  102. Rocknee
    >I thought that too, but if McCain was not a NBC then the Repub ticket is void as well.

    Probably so, it’s just as well. I read in the last few days Mccain said Barry is doing a good job. Is he stupid, lying or both?

  103. I hope that Sarah palin is aware of what is happening to the country and knows that it is paramount that something be done in the near future (very few weeks) to stop this destruction and restore the Constitution.

    Who is in the know?

  104. GOOD ARTICLE – GREAT COMMENTS -

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=479860

  105. Rocknee & Eagle – I think The Senate passed a special bill saying McCain was legitimate as his mother anf father were both citizens and he was on American Territory but the Hospitol was off of it. I am sure it will be easy to find out.

  106. Hi Ms. Helga,

    And therein lies THE question: Is any child born abroad to American active duty military parents an NBC?

    Even if the hospital wasn’t on the base (perhaps there was no birthing facility available on base) both his parents were U.S. citizens and his Dad was active duty military.

    You would thing that any child born to American parents serving in the military in some foreign land would still be an NBC.

  107. Rocknee,

    I’m with you.

    I don’t think Sarah needs to have “standing”. The only standing she needs … is to be STANDING in front of a microphone with a lot of cameras on. And she can let it rip.
    Atleast it would be all over the media.
    Not covered up on the internet like Berg, Mario, Orly, etc… She just needs to call a press conference and they will be all over her like white on rice! Then … BaBoom!

    Again, wishful thinking! sigh !

  108. Lurker,

    Hello friend! I hope you’re doing well today. You are in my thoughts!

    Heading out to a bbq party and depending on how much fun it is … I may be back later, … or I may not!

    So, to all here …

    HAPPY 4th OF JULY!!

  109. Great song I just found out GREAT JOB.

    TO Hear the LIVE STREAM OF THE TEA Parties all across teh country:

    http://patdollard.com/2009/07/live-stream-of-americas-tea-parties/

    Happy Independence Day everyone.
    God Bless.

  110. EAGLE:

    “Probably so, it’s just as well. I read in the last few days Mccain said Barry is doing a good job. Is he stupid, lying or both?”

    NOOOO he is a RINO POLITICIAN and a kiss butt SENILE MORON. John McCAmnesty the illegal aliens and LIE-berals BEST FRIEND.

  111. I Predict that Sarah ” The LIE-berals Terror” will be heard from soon.

    She is going to WASHINGTON with her BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN HAND to show the USURPER Obanana that ONLY NBC AMERICANS ARE ALLOWED TO BE PRESIDENT.

    I think back to Bush’s first 6 yrs when Republicans were in Charge and I am starting to miss the America we had at that time.
    Why did so many get fooled by the Bedmate Media and ACORN into Electing a KENYAN President? Obanana MISSION ACCOMPLISHED you did the IMPOSSIBLE make people LOVE Bush AGAIN.

  112. OBAMA POISONED HIS GRANDMOTHER-THE VIDEO THAT WILL END THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

    No sound…just read.

  113. Historical Wisdom for todays SLAVES and HOs

    Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is the history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it.
    -Woodrow Wilson

    The average American worker has to work until June to pay federal, state, local, property and sales taxes. That means that you are a slave to government , or a government “Ho” if you will, for at least five months per year. A slave. A “Ho.” Does that mean that your “Massa” doesnt’ provide a little food and shelter for you? No. Our “Massa” provides for the common defense, foreign relations and interstate infrastructure and maybe a few other worthwhile and needed causes. Everything else is chosen at the whim of power, the desires of the “Massa.” The desires of the government pimp.

    Just like the days of Old South, some people like the “Massa.” Those are the people who receive something from him like cheap food and goods as a result of the “Massa’s” willingness to partake in human enslavement. Others like him and the pimp because they have grown wealthy themselves from business received off of the money taken from slaves and forced prostitutes……

    We are overburdened. We are over taxed. Our pimps and massas spend too much …and they say it is NECESSARY NOW…hurry:

    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

    -William Pitt

    “Excessive taxation… will carry reason and reflection to every
    man’s door, and particularly in the hour of election.” –Thomas
    Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798.

    Taxation of earnings from labor is on a par with forced labor. Seizing the results of someone’s labor is equivalent to seizing hours from him and directing him to carry on various activities.

    -Robert Nozick

    A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

    -Edward R. Murrow

    The power to tax is the power to destroy.

    -John Marshall

    Government at its best is a necessary evil, and at its worst, an intolerable one.

    -Thomas Paine

    What luck for the rulers that men do not think.
    -Adolf Hitler

    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

    -Thomas Jefferson

    It is with heaviness of heart this year that I celebrate this Nation’s birthday….

    Great men and true patriots sacrificed death and disfigurment to free this country for less tyranny and oppression than we suffer now……

    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

    -Goethe

  114. truthbetold11

    Wow! I saw that the coach of tennese titans coach went to visit the troops overseas with other nfl coaches. I told myself BHO won’t like this. Well i just read that STEVE MCNAIR was murdered along with his girlfriend. Steve was a close friend of the coach. Strange timing but you never know with all the staged events that happen around the country.

  115. Jcd and all who have posted,

    The posts you are sharing are especially provacative and reflective of so many patriots today. I would like to use your comments on tommorow’s Usapatriots radio program. May I have you permission to share some of them on on the program.

    JCD

    May I have your permission to read the complete statement on the program.

    “I was discussing with a buddy, the irrelevancy of the eligibility issue. Whether it is the “BC” angle, or even the “NBC” (dual-citizenship) angle, it is all irrelevant, because the Constitution is irrelevant. . . . ”

    I don’t know about being a defeatist. I doo know before a problem can be solved it must first be identified. The problems America is facing today haven’t all been identified. Discussing them on sites like Citizenwells and the many inter net blog talk radio programs is a positive step in the right direction. Maybe these kinds of discussions should have been done years ago and we wouldn’t be facing such a monumental task. We didn’t. So we are doing it now–while we still can. Obama and his thugs can be defeated–we must never forget that. America, the Republic can be restored and we must carry that in our hearts, always.

    We just have to work a little harder, pay better attention and keep on keeping on. Remember men delight in making laws and delight even more in breaking them. What was put into law can be repealed. The pendulum swings both ways.

    By the way I have changed the time of broadcast to 3:30 to 5:30 pm Pactific Standard Time, July 5, 2009.

    This week’s theme is The Primal Scream of Agony from the wilderness. (The wilderness is the silent majority) America will not go down silently!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/usapatriots-shout

  116. Ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya confirmed Saturday that he would return to his country on Sunday, despite warnings from the nation’s cardinal Oscar Rodriguez to stay away to avoid a “bloodbath.”

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/zelaya-confirms-he-will-return-to-honduras-sunday/

  117. JJ-
    Amen, I feel it too
    Also this may well be our last 4th of July celebration, so enjoy the fire works!

  118. FROM:
    On this our comarde Obama’s Day
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/07/on-this-our-comarde-obamas-day.html

    It doth seem fitting as the saulish Obama and the ever growing wife of porcine appetites visit their good friends in the Kremlin animal farm, that a little known application for all to visit, copy, send and read is posted by the British Government as follows:

    You became a British subject on 1 January 1983 if, up to that date, you were:

    * a British subject without citizenship, which means you were a British subject on 31 December 1948 who did not become a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, a citizen of a Commonwealth country, a citizen of Pakistan, or a citizen of the Republic of Ireland;
    * a person who had been a citizen of Eire and a British subject on 31 December 1948 and had made a claim to remain a British subject; or
    * a woman who had registered as a British subject on the basis of your marriage to a man who was in one of the two categories above.

    Be it known, Barack Hussein Obama was born of a British colonial African of Kenya in Barack Hussein Obama Sr.
    Be it known, Stanley Ann Dunham, being under legal agent of consent was impregnated and married, making her by matrimony a British subject.

    Barack Obama was a British subject by birth, but without even requesting or assenting on January 1, 1983 at the age of 21 became a British citizen by act of the British government as he had never applied for citizenship to any United Kingdom, colony, was a citizen of Pakisan where he visited or the Republic of Ireland.
    Barack Obama was never a Irish citizen or a previous subject or a woman married to a British subject.

    Since 1 January 1983, a person who gains citizenship of any other country can no longer be a British subject. However, this does not apply to a citizen of the Republic of Ireland who has made a claim to remain a British subject as explained above.

    Be it known, Barack Obama never gained citizenship of any other country after January 1, 1983.
    Barack Obama never applied for citizenship of the United States of America as was required under United States law. It does not matter one iota that Barack Obama has any Hawaiian birth certificate of live birth. It does not matter if there is evidence of his being Barry Soetero, Indonesian dual citizen. None of the documents matter, because under British Authority Mandate, on January 1, 1983 at the age of 21 years, 4 months, 27 days, Barack Hussein Obama became a legal British subject.

    This event which even his website has attempted to explain away as his inaction simply allowed his being a British subject to “expire” has absolutely no legal standing in Great Britain nor the United States. British citizenship does not expire.
    It can be renounced or a new citizenship can be taken up negating it, but Barack Obama was never naturalized by the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the United States. He never applied, he never attended classes, nor took the manditory examination nor took the oath to be a Citizen of the United States of America.

    In not doing so, Barack Hussein Obama has been a sojourner in the United States of America and has illegally been an Illinois State Senator, United States Senator and is illegally the occupant of the White House executive branch of government as a foreigner disqualified from serving in Illinois and in the District of Columbia as he is British.

    Barack Obama is vir artus, the man in limbo, the man without a country, an illegal alien in America and not yet having British official citizenship papers.

    There is no denying Barack Obama’s birth parents and no denying the British Nationality Act of 1948, 1965 and 1983 which forever fused him by his birth, no matter where he was born as a British subject.
    Vladamir Putin has as much right to be in the Oval Office of the President of the United States as Barack Hussein Obama.

    The people of Honduras in facing the Constinutional crisis of a criminal Marxist, had a Supreme Court uphold their Constitution, a military enforce their Constitution in removing of a criminal, with the Honduran Congress replacing the criminal executive.
    The people of the United States have had nothing but enablers in a corrupt Attorney General in Eric Holder circumventing the law, a Supreme and Judicial Court system not uphold Constitutional Law and a Congress which negated to fulfill as did all 50 states in requiring Constitutional proof that Barack Hussein Obama was a Citizen of the United States.

    Barack Obama is vir artus, the man in limbo, and until the Constitutional Laws of the United States are upheld, every act he initiates is criminal fraud and not legally binding, which includes Treasury bond issue, currency signed illegally by Timothy Geithner to orders in placing United States troops in Afghanistan.

    Those are the legal facts in any attorney in England could gain full citizenship for subject Obama at any time, and, within that time, it appears he then could be Prime Minister of Great Britain replacing Gordon Brown.

    The Truth will prevail and the Truth will be victorious Saul II.

  119. Obama admits he’s a British subject on fightthesmears.com

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

    Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

    ————–
    Alas he never had US citizenship even if born in Honolulu, because his mother was a minor and his father’s citizenship dictated Obama’s citizenship because by marriage, she became a British subject.
    So that’s true, he never revoked his US citizenship, but he never had it.
    Second, he was born with British citizenship, not Kenyan, because at the time Kenya was a British colony, and so he would not need to swear any oath of allegiance to Kenya and its citizenship laws are irrelevant.

    Obama is no more qualified to be POTUS than Putin. Obama is an illegal alien.

  120. Happy 4th to everyone! This particular day is an icon of the interim years since 1776, and carries the meaning of FREEDOM. We have lived in freedom,and we have had to fight to keep it. We have been forced to surrender members of our families to fight in various wars. In my opinion some were valid wars,and some were not. Some it was necessary to participate in, and in others we should never have become involved in. Nonetheless our children became the fighting force in all of the wars. This was allegedly done in the name of FREEDOM. What has it all gotten us?In part a very strong possibility of becoming a CAPTIVE SOCIETY OF SERVITUDE. It would seem that it has all been for naught, because a portion of our society has chosen to squander what in most cases their OWN fathers gave his life to support. To me these persons have brought upon themselves the spectre of becoming mentally,morally,and physically subservient to anyone who promises to buy them a pizza.I personally believe that if theydidn’t care about the death ot their own father, then in all probability they would probably kill their own mother for her last $2.50 to buy some drugs,or alcohol. It appears that our country is now being dominated by these slimey little cowards who wear their idiotic hats backwards,and clothing which drags the ground, because in their warped little minds it is COOL. This all speaks to the downward spiral of the mental lividity of an ever growing percentage of our young people. Some of these young people are unable to use even simple reasoning when it is necessary. A COOL person can obtain their allegiance, and or vote just because he gave them a ticket to a rock concert. They often havn’t the slightest idea what the Constitution is, or even what it means. These are people that Acorn solicits.

  121. Probably so, it’s just as well. I read in the last few days Mccain said Barry is doing a good job. Is he stupid, lying or both?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    just part of the plan….I felt he knew for a long time..I felt he knew more than he’s telling…I still think he was threatened with harm to himself or family.

  122. Fourth of July message from Sarah Palin. Classy.
    Where’s barry, on his way to Russia to apologize!!

    Happy 4th of July from Alaska!
    Today at 4:55pm

    On this Independence Day, I am so very proud of all those who have chosen to serve our great nation and I honor their selflessness and the sacrifices of their families, too.

    If I may, I would like to take a moment to reflect on the last 24 hours and share my thoughts with you.

    First, I want to thank you for your support and hard work on the values we share. Those values led me to the decision my family and I made. Yesterday, my family and I announced a decision that is in Alaska’s best interest and it always feels good to do what is right. We have accomplished more during this one term than most governors do in two – and I am proud of the great team that helped to build these wonderful successes. Energy independence and national security, fiscal restraint, smaller government, and local control have been my priorities and will remain my priorities.

    For months now, I have consulted with friends and family, and with the Lieutenant Governor, about what is best for our wonderful state. I even made a few administrative changes over that course in time in preparation for yesterday. We have accomplished so much and there’s much more to do, but my family and I determined after prayerful consideration that sacrificing my title helps Alaska most. And once I decided not to run for re-election, my decision was that much easier – I’ve never been one to waste time or resources. Those who know me know this is the right decision and obvious decision at that, including Senator John McCain. I thank him for his kind, insightful comments.

    The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.

    I shared with you yesterday my heartfelt and candid reasons for this change; I’ve never thought I needed a title before one’s name to forge progress in America. I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint. I hope you will join me. Now is the time to rebuild and help our nation achieve greatness!

    God bless you! And I look forward to making a difference – with you!

    Sarah

  123. TO: bho boo // July 4, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    This is great BUT there is one issue that you OVERLOOKED:

    Obama Jr. was a British Subject thru his daddy at birth in 1961 (if that is when he was born) BUT Kenya became Independent in 1963 and his daddy, Obama Sr, became a Kenyan Citizen THEREFORE the minor 1-3 yrs old at the time would haev ALSO become a KENYAN Citizen along with his daddy.

  124. Interesting Portuguese, but he was still never a US citizen. This is why they want to keep the discussion away from natural born citizen and even US citizenship at all, since that is an argument of law, not of vaporous paperwork which may be forged in the future.
    I refer all to lamecherry where I snipped the article.

    McCain is complicit as all shit (sorry I’m angry at him). The only two eligible candidates at the end were Palin and Biden! McCain is going to be a puss for Obama because they’re both culpable they’re both neither eligible and we’ll never know anything more than that they are colossal frauds, both of them. And believe me I don’t want to say that about McCain.

    McCain may have been a war hero but he in the end sold out America for his personal ambitions, maybe he felt he had to make up for lost time and opportunity.

    It’s so obvious, why would DEMOCRATS like McCaskill (who was drooling over an Obama VP slot) or Obama himself HELP McCain by designating him a natural born citizen in SR 511, in which it was defined and thereby Obama fails that definition.

    This was a fraud and a very lame fraud. When you corner bots with the fact that there are zero witnesses to Obama’s birth, and that no hospital claims he was born there and Hawaii does not say he was born there…all they can say is ‘yeah sure McCain really went along with this’….well yes he certainly DID.

  125. I have dial up so unable to listen to blog talk radio , I know of Orly but never heard of Patriotsheart before today.

    I attended the Crystal Lake IL Tea Party ( Rained the entire time) and afterwards met with the group who organized for quick meeting.

    They introduced someone who happened to be there but was not part of their group or asked to be there.

    It was Chalice of Patriotsheart she spoke of delivering the documents in D.C and the CitizensGrandJuries.

    I never knew of anyone but ORLY before and not sure what brought Chalice to Crystal Lake if she lives near there or family ?

    I was very impressed even though she spoke too softly to hear much and she mentioned going back to D.C. I believe July 24 or 27?

    Just mentioning fyi since I find so much out that I never hear elsewhere right hear thanks to many of you dedicated folks and I so appreciate it.

    I do wish for any that are not , please consider going on Twitter, it is such a good way to spread the messages I have found . And many Patriots are on there, TeaParties galore.

    I go by 10thAmendment. Seriously it is an outstanding tool and I implore all you excellant researchers and Patriots to add daily to your to do list.

    And thank you Citizenwells for one of my must see blogs .

    If you chose to try twitter, contact me @10thAmendment and identify you are from Citizenwells and I will recommend excellant people to follow you / and you to follow.

    ( No I don’t work for twitter or make any money , this is NOT AN AD )

    I just , like yourselves want people to wake up and it is getting alot of attention. And even people who don’t follow you see the messages of others unless marked private. SO I think that is a good thing.

  126. You may delete this after you read it. Just passing along another error, a significant one in the story and video, which should be fixed.

    To the Editor:

    Just noticed another important point both in your article and in the accompanying YouTube video description paragraph an in the video itself on a slide. The Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al lawsuit was filed very early in the morning of 20 Jan 2009, 9+ hours before he was sworn in, not in February. It was later amended twice with the latest amendment, the 2nd Amended Complaint being filed on 9 Feb 2009. See the copy of the 2nd Amended Case filing document headline which clarifies that the original suit was filed on 20 Jan 2009. You can see that in the headline at this link:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/11317148/

    Fixing the text in your article should be easy but I don’t know who did the video but they have the wrong date of filing in the video too. It is important to the case that this case was filed after the Congress erred in confirming him and before he was sworn in as the putative President. That is judicially significant. It is very important that the reading public know this case was filed before he was sworn in when he was just the President Elect and still a “civilian”. He should have to pay all his own legal expenses to defend his part of the lawsuit. He should not get away with using a DOJ lawyer.

    RJ

  127. Patriot Dreamer

    Check out this quote from BO on Thursday, July 2:

    Obama’s challenge: Tweens take over Camp David
    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON – Finally, something that intimidates President Barack Obama: a bunch of tween girls.

    The president talked about his family’s plans for the July Fourth holiday during an AP interview Thursday, and revealed that Camp David had been invaded by about 20 girls there to celebrate daughter Malia’s 11th birthday on Saturday.

    “There are 24 double-X chromosomes up in Camp David as we speak,” Obama said. “It’s a little intimidating.”

    ****************************************

    I find it offensive that he refers to women as “double-x chromosomes”. Am I being overly sensitive here?

  128. Patriot Dreamer,

    He probably learned that from one of his boyfriends the last few days so he wanted to show that he knows about chromosones.

  129. PETITION TO BLOCK CONGRESSIONAL
    ATTACKS ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND PRESS

    http://www.wnd.com/petition_fairness_doctrine

  130. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // July 4, 2009 at 4:29 pm ………………………
    “HERE’S TO YOU MR. JEFFERSON” IS A GREAT VIDEO!!!

    BTW I watched a video clip of the Obama family boarding a helicopter to fly to Camp David. I saw a U. S. Marine in dress blues carrying luggage. I was hoping it was his own luggage and did not belong to the Obama family. I hate to think that our Marines have become Obama’s valet.

  131. A ROGER SIMON DESCRIPTION OF THE USURPER.

    “He switches positions every day, such as they are, while acting like a petit-bourgeois snob with our allies and then, when people with genuine passion for democracy emerge on the scene (the courageous Iranian protestors), behaves like a cringeworthy, equivocating creep.
    “Cringeworthy, equivocating creep”–I like it!

    CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP
    CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP
    CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP

    THE CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP FROM USURPERVILLE(google it up)

    THE CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP FROM USURPERVILLE(google it up)

    THE CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP FROM USURPERVILLE(google it up)

  132. citizenwells

    ramjet767 (2009/07/05 at 12:59am)
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    I have been on the road for several days and my internet connection
    for much of that time has been the slowest dialup speed I have seen in
    20 years. I wanted to get the interview and the latest ploy by the Obama
    camp regarding standing and immunity up before the morning of the fourth.
    Your point is important, so I modified the article and Youtube video.
    Thanks.
    Wells

  133. To: JONAH, Ms Helga

    That Video needs to go VIRAL and the song is SPOT ON.

    CRINGEWORTHY,EQUIVOCATING CREEP

    Obanana is all that PLUS alot more a CATASTHROPHIC COMMUNIST CREATED KORAN QUOTING CORRUPT CRETIN

  134. LM // July 5, 2009 at 3:30 am

    Hi LM,

    Yes, they’re modeling this on the MA plan. Truthbetold11 can back this up.

    ‘Universal coverage’ in this state is mandatory and if you refuse to buy health insurance, you’re fined.

    All you need do is read the article you cited and see the name Ted Edward Chappaquiddick Kennedy and this sham all makes sense.

  135. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Rocknee // July 5, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Fourth of July message from Sarah Palin. Classy.
    Where’s barry, on his way to Russia to apologize!!

    Happy 4th of July from Alaska!
    Today at 4:55pm

    On this Independence Day, I am so very proud of all those who have chosen to serve our great nation and I honor their selflessness and the sacrifices of their families, too.

    If I may, I would like to take a moment to reflect on the last 24 hours and share my thoughts with you.

    First, I want to thank you for your support and hard work on the values we share. Those values led me to the decision my family and I made. Yesterday, my family and I announced a decision that is in Alaska’s best interest and it always feels good to do what is right. We have accomplished more during this one term than most governors do in two – and I am proud of the great team that helped to build these wonderful successes. Energy independence and national security, fiscal restraint, smaller government, and local control have been my priorities and will remain my priorities.

    For months now, I have consulted with friends and family, and with the Lieutenant Governor, about what is best for our wonderful state. I even made a few administrative changes over that course in time in preparation for yesterday. We have accomplished so much and there’s much more to do, but my family and I determined after prayerful consideration that sacrificing my title helps Alaska most. And once I decided not to run for re-election, my decision was that much easier – I’ve never been one to waste time or resources. Those who know me know this is the right decision and obvious decision at that, including Senator John McCain. I thank him for his kind, insightful comments.

    The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.

    I shared with you yesterday my heartfelt and candid reasons for this change; I’ve never thought I needed a title before one’s name to forge progress in America. I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint. I hope you will join me. Now is the time to rebuild and help our nation achieve greatness!

    God bless you! And I look forward to making a difference – with you!

    Sarah
    *****************************************************

    Rocknee—I’m with you….I am hopeful that she will run in 2012 but at the same time I wouldn’t blame her for not wanting to put her name and family through all of this BS that they have reaped on her since the initial day she told McCain she would be his running mate!!! I love Sarah and pray that she will have the courage and know how to stand tall with other Americans against the THUGS in our government….including the biggest of all who is sitting in the White House!! Pray for Sarah and her family’s well being people….we can ill afford to lose such an American Patriot as Sarah when there are so few in our government today!!!! Pray to the Lord for his help in this…it is in his hands!!!

  136. There were 56 singners to the Declaration of Independence.
    There were 37 signers to the Constitution.

    All these people were WISE PEOPLE.

    I find it amazing that at that time when we had such a small population and hardship and Revolution there were so MANY WEISE PEOPLE at one time. It really seems to me like the hand of GOD guiding America.

    Now we have a huge population and NOBODY can name ONE WISE PERSON in our governance. I challenge you to name one.

    What happened? Did we God abandon the country that he so lovingly helped create?
    NO, we abandoned GOD! Without God there is no wisdom and eventually degredation and self-destruction. It is upon us. These are trying times for God’s Freedom Loving Country.

    God give us the wisdom again and guide our hand to act in the proper manner to set things right with You again.

  137. Civis naturaliter natus

    Another way to promote real change is to harness the outrage expressed at the Tea Party Days, and Schedule a

    National Recall your Congressman Day

    to Start actions in all 50 states to recall all Senators and Reps. There could be a list of grievances to which every congressmant has offended in some manner, with a resolution to recall the tyrannts…Each state is different, but the numbers at the Tea Partys is more than enough to get the recalls going on strong…there could even be a sort of competition between states for the greatest number of signatures gathered to recall a congressman. Might as well make it fun…!

    When the fire is under their but, they might join in a Quo Warrento against Obama, or admit that his is not NBC….

  138. Yes. Great idea. Start a petition drive to recall all the Congress people who do not support a Congressional hearing with full subpoena power by both parties to obtain all of Obama’s sealed records and fully vet him as to his exact citizenship status under Oath in a Congressional hearing. If the Congress person will not support this or will not even suppot HR 1503, then they should be recalled or not re-elected.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503

    The national recall day rallies could be staged on “election day” in 2009. You could have rallies near but legally far enough away from the polls and also have a tent and table where people can sign the petitions to recall the incumbents who will not actively speak out about Obama’s and Congress’s betrayal of Article II of the Constitution in the 2008 election. And they can speak out about McCain betrayal too. The last election cycle was an equal opportunity betrayal of the Constitution by both parties. The Socialist Party was even able to get a complete non-U.S. citizen on the ballot in 5 stages. The system is totally out of control and the parties have thrown the Constitution under the bus when it comes to vetting candidates and many, many other issues. The parties have put their political power above the Constitution. The political parties control Congress instead of We the People. They only now give us lip service when running for re-election or when caught sending us non-answer answers via form letters or fund raising letters.

    Make election day, the “Recall the Congress Day”.

    http://www.thebirthers.org/

    RJ

  139. Jonah………………………… I wish you, and yours a very happy 4th. Also am praying that you are able to find the PRIZE. Keep at it,and GOOD Luck!
    ………………………………………………………………….

  140. bob strauss

    When you think about it, the McCain/Palin ticket, was the actual winner, of the Presidential election, because the Obama/Biden ticket, was illegitimate. Obama does not qualify to run for the office, so the DNC, nullified their own candidates validity to be on the ballot.

  141. bob strauss

    Maybe the McCain/ Palin ticket will be declared the actual winner of the election, by default, and She is heading to DC to assume the role of Vice President. Good reason to step down as Governor of Alaska?

  142. truthbetold11

    100 percent correct bob. the dnc was caught up in the trick pony show and didn’t bother to vet him either and said we will deal with the public after the election. They are living a lie and know it wait till sarah palin mentions this.

  143. truthbetold11

    sue k , my state of massachusetts is being run by a mini obama in deval and he is the silent friend for now in the obama camp. health coverage is going to be the hottest topic very soon and they want ted kennedy’s name attached to it.

  144. truthbetold11 // July 5, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Hi Truthbetold-I’m right here with ya in the Merrimack Valley.

    Remember what we said before the election-Obama is Cadillac Deval on steroids.

    ‘Mandatory’ health coverage is killing us all and there is a choice whether to buy it or put food on the table for your family. Sure, Ted Edward’s name will be attached to something like this; let’s face it-that may be one of his last ‘official’ acts before he sees Mary Jo again.

    I’ve not seen anything different with mandatory health care here-the state is still broke and the pols are still feeding from the public trough.

    And so it goes.

  145. So, now Kerchner v Obama was filed before barry took ofiice and I believe Dr. Orly has a suit referenceing the Executive Order sign By President Bush right before barry took office too.

    So there are two suits againt barry as a civilian (ursurper-elect).

    Do I have this all right?

  146. Hi Rocknee,

    That’s the way I understand it, as well. He resigned as Senator on 11/16/08, so if the suits were filed between that date and 1/20/09 then he was indeed a ‘civilian.’

  147. you don’t want to miss this broadcast
    Blood will shoot our of your ears

    Blogtalkradio.com/usapatriots-shout
    Sunday night (07-05-09) 3:30 to 5:30
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    Therese Daniels & Jean Bonadio
    ( military & veteran insight)

    Is America now a DICTATORSHIP
    instead of a Republic?

    Have “We the people” been betrayed
    by all departments of Government?

    If there were nothing to the question of Obama’s eligibility, then why doesn’t msm tell the story? Share the joke with the entire world?

    Tea Parties every where has any one seen press coverage?

    So, what now, my patriots? Now that it is over?

    We are all that is left! You and I shouting in the wilderness. It is now up to us. Have you got any ideas. Where do we go from here? The final death blows are coming with “crap and raid” and “Obamacare” which is anything but health care for you and me.
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  148. ILBlue, I was at the Crystal Lake Tea Party too! About 500 people, don’t you think?

  149. Sue K

    Really dont know what all this means other than should be differents rules and different way to pay the bill!

  150. Hi Rocknee,

    I don’t know, either, but you’d think that a ‘civilian’ suit vs. a suit for a sitting POTUS would be a bit different?

    If I recall correctly, there were a flurry of suits filed before 1/20/09 just for these reasons; I’m thinking that his interim standing (not a Senator any longer and not yet POTUS) made him more vulnerable to a successful suit.

    Maybe jbjd or one of CW’s other legal eagles here can clarify?

    Bottom line is that we *all* pay the bill eventually. We’re sure paying it now, aren’t we?

  151. For all those interested, please tune into KLIF’s live radio show (Dallas TX) today at 5:00 EST. Radio host Martin Birnbach will be interviewing a personal friend of mine; Major General James L. Williams, commander of the 4th Marine Division. The subject of the interview will be on the Marine Corp history of Vets from WWII through present.

    Once at the site, click on “Listen Live” at the top right of page. A small pane will open prompting you to download “Silverlight Player”.

    Don’t download the player!

    Look at the bottom of this pane and click on:
    Click here for basic player

    The show will start automatically.

    http://www.klif.com/Home/tabid/90/Default.aspx

  152. Correction to above post. When the player opens, you might have to click on the teeny arrow control to start.

  153. McCain is going to be a puss for Obama because they’re both culpable they’re both neither eligible and we’ll never know anything more than that they are colossal frauds, both of them. And believe me I don’t want to say that about McCain

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ve always called him the “DC” , ”designated candidate’….anyone would have sufficed!!!

  154. NO, we abandoned GOD! Without God there is no wisdom and eventually degredation and self-destruction. It is upon us. These are trying times for God’s Freedom Loving Country.

    God give us the wisdom again and guide our hand to act in the proper manner to set things right with You again.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    and add this please…….
    Oh God, our Father, grant us peace, and if that is not of your will or liking, grant us the strength to endure the grinding hardships of war, till such a time as peace is once again held as a virtue amongst men.

  155. For all those interested, please tune into KLIF’s live radio show (Dallas TX) today at 5:00 EST. Radio host Martin Birnbach will be interviewing a personal friend of mine; Major General James L. Williams, commander of the 4th Marine Division. The subject of the interview will be on the Marine Corp history of Vets from WWII through present.

    Once at the site, click on “Listen Live” at the top right of page. A small pane will open prompting you to download “Silverlight Player”.

    Don’t download the player!

    Look at the bottom of this pane and click on:
    Click here for basic player

    The show will start automatically.

    http://www.klif.com/Home/tabid/90/Default.aspx

    **********************

    This show is very interesting. Right now Birnbach is interviewing an 89 year old WWII Marine colonel and recipient of the Silver Star, the Navy Cross and 4 Purple Hearts. He’s also talking about personal experiences in the war.

  156. Washington Times Advertorial

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/17107553/

  157. Yes. Great idea. Start a petition drive to recall all the Congress people who do not support a Congressional hearing with full subpoena power by both parties to obtain all of Obama’s sealed records and fully vet him as to his exact citizenship status under Oath in a Congressional hearing. If the Congress person will not support this or will not even suppot HR 1503, then they should be recalled or not re-elected.

    ===============
    Ramjet 767— May I “second” that?
    Let’s go in this direction!!!!!!!!!!!!

  158. SueK, Rocknee, and Everyone,

    In response to your request for legal perspective, whenever possible, I conduct research on government web sites, since I am paying for these sites, anyway. Here is the reference to the DoJ site explaining the function of lawyers in the Civil Division of the Office of AG. “The major functions of the Division are to…[d]efend the government and its officers and employees in lawsuits seeking damages from the U.S. Treasury or from individuals personally.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/jmd/mps/manual/civil.htm#content

    Without conducting further research, I can at least be certain that any cause of action filed before BO was in office, the subject of which is unrelated to the term of his Presidency, is by statute outside of the authority of the Civil Division of the Office of the AG in the DoJ.

  159. UPDATE on “The Greatest Crime in the History of Humanity”: President Obama Named as a Defendant

    THE SWINE FLU AND THE LAW WHICH NOW APPLIES TO YOU !

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/07/05/update-on-the-greatest-crime-in-the-history-of-humanity-president-obama-named-as-a-defendant/

  160. Did all of you see the great new Advertorial scheduled for tomorrow in the Washington Times National Weekly from the Kerchner v Obama & Congress camp:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/17107553/

    And you can help get more of these advertorials placed in the next weeks too via this new site:

    http://www.protectourliberty.org/

    Go get ‘em Kerchner and Atty Apuzzo!

    http://www.thebirthers.org

    RJ

  161. Thanks, jbjd-appreciate the post.

    Hope you had a nice 4th.

  162. SWINE FLU WAS MAN MADE IN A USA LABORATORY WITH FBI DOCUMENT

  163. Georgetown

    Kerchener and Apuzzo on tonight:

    The Chalice Show – Patriot’s Heart Broadcasting – BlogTalkRadio Network -10:30 p.m. EDT Sunday 5 Jul 2009 – Kerchner et al v. Obama & Congress lawsuit update …….

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/chalice-show-patriots-heart.html

  164. truthbetold11

    sue k , deval is going to use our money with billboards and is going on a state tour to speak he will be in shrewsbury tuesday nite. How can any sane person buy what he’s selling.

  165. truthbetold11 // July 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Well, he’s pretty much a laughingstock and people seem to be stunned that he’s announced his reelection bid….and those are the people who voted for him!

    And he wonders why this state is shedding population daily…

    Glad I voted for Muffy, and I’d do it again.

  166. Joe Biden “Economy Worse Than We Thought”

  167. decentAmerican

    Sarah’s resignation is making more sense to me, now she can combat her enemies (who are our enemies) with vigor. As a private citizen, she is infinitely more capable of going after the lies with lawsuits…..sheesh, she can reap tens of millions from the liars at msnbc, cnn, nyt, huffpo, and dailykos alone. Can you imagine how bankrupt Kos would be if he were victim of a slander lawsuit? LOL. the guy has no money, he is just a blogger. why he would want to subject himself to bankruptcy with his lies is just beyond me.

    As one blogger put it, Sarah, who up until now has been the hunted…..

    Now becomes the Hunter. Woe to those who sought her harm. go Barracuda.

  168. truthbetold11

    When she sets her mind to something things get done quickly and the right way. Look out lower 48 americas leading lady has come home to roost and his hopping mad

  169. Sarah said she would continue to help the “citizens” of this country.

    I really think we should start a writing campaign and ask her to address the NBC issue.

    Talk about dishing it right back at them!! That would be sweet!

  170. Kerchner and Appuzo have a new site up, and they are running ads in the Washington Times to educate the people and the media that the White House has been taken over by an USURPER!

    He’s paying for the first add, which you can see here First Advertisement

    Here’s their site, and they need small donations from as many people as possible to help run these adds on a weekly basis.

    Check it out here

    Folks, i won’t kill anyone to donate $5.00 or $10.00 every week to help this man pay for these adds to continuously run in the coming weeks.

    Let’s do this ! Get involved, and donate a few bucks. Do your part to help get this bastard out of the White House. If we all come together, and pitch in “just a few bucks” every week, this will indeed help educate the people, and the lame stream media.

  171. A while back I read that if Blowbama is removed – then it goes to who ever won the most votes … McCain / Palin …. ????

    The presidency would go to Joe Biden.

    Here are six ways we can tell Obama’s perfectly legal.

  172. I feel really good about Sarah Palin’s resignation. I do hope she doesn’t wait to long before she comes down here and kick barry’s ass back to Kenya.

    Although, I have mixed feelings about McCain’s NBC status, I believe in a court of law he would be found to be a NBC.

    They both need to go to DC with birth certificates in hand and request barry to produce his or resigned. If not, then the military should be asked to remove him.

    Folks, now is the time for action!

  173. Ed,

    Believe if obama is removed for ineligibiliy, the ticket is void. Biden is out.

  174. Rocknee, you can believe whatever you wish to believe; but under established law, the next in line on the ticket takes over. Were Obama to be found ineligible — and that won’t happen, because he’s a natural born U.S. citizen — that would not invalidate the election, in which the the ticket of Obama-Biden won. Biden’s role is to become president if Obama cannot fill the office for any reason. Hence, Biden would be president.

    When Kennedy died, Johnson took office, not Nixon. When Nixon resigned, Ford took office, not McGovern. Read the laws and amendment on presidential succession.

    It’s in the law. Your belief in federal law won’t affect whether it works or not.

  175. Rocknee, there is no facially valid challenge to Obama’s status. It’s not enough that you have your birth certificate, nor McCain his, nor Palin hers — someone must make a case that Obama is not eligible. In order to do that, there are presumptions of law that need to be overcome. Among other things, one would need to establish through legal processes that the birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii is not valid — and that will be difficult, since there is not an iota of evidence to make such a claim.

  176. Ed

    There are other sites for you to shout obama is a nbc. Go there.

  177. Charles Kerchner from http://puzo1.blogspot.com/ needs financial help.

    Please Donate:

    http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/protectourliberty.htm

    This lawsuit is still alive and well and HAS NOT been dismissed yet.

    The defendents have filed a motion to dismiss.

    Charle’s lawyer, Mario Apuzzo is filing a counter motion.

    Charles welcomes legal advice to defeat the motion to dismiss.

  178. Ed,

    Sorry to keep bothering you. Obama has said on his web site he was a British subject/citizen at birth. Now how can a British citizen/subject at birth be a natural born US citizen?

    We all wait for your answer.

  179. oldsalt77,
    I located your person on the internet and you are so right about his past occupation. Must give some serious thought how to approach him. I’m working on some other quests also and have accidently discovered government documents that sadly might affect the NBC debate. I do genealogy, not law, and I’m not sure what to with the discovery.

  180. Sorry to keep bothering you. Obama has said on his web site he was a British subject/citizen at birth. Now how can a British citizen/subject at birth be a natural born US citizen?

    How can a kid born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen mother be anything other than a natural born citizen? Check the citizenship statutes. There’s nothing to disqualify him.

    He didn’t say he was a British citizen and not a U.S. citizen on his website. Dual citizenship does not disqualify a person from citizenship — remember Winston Churchill, who chose British citizenship over U.S. citizenship. A nation determines its own citizens, not another — Obama was not a sole subject of the British empire, but has always been a U.S. citizen from the moment of his birth.

    What makes you think that’s a problem?

  181. ed,
    Obama’s Indonesian school records show he is Indonesian. So now Obama has THREE citizenships?

  182. magna carta

    Here’s a great place to begin reading for those who do not think there’s a problem:
    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6216

  183. SueK truthbetold

    I’m in MA as well Merrimack Valley.

    Hope everyone had a Happy Independence Day and pray it is not our last one in Freedom. I also promise to do what I can to make sure Obanana, The Plundere-in-Thief doesn’t celebrate the Next Indepdence Day in Freedom.

    God Bless US

  184. Ed.

    It’s so simple. Dual citizenship does not disqualify a person fron citizenship. True, but it does disqualify you from being a natural born citizen.

    Also, there is no authentic proof he was born in Hawaii. I know if I were, I would pay the $14 and not hundred of thousands to hide it. Maybe Frank Marshall is his fathder.

    Do you know who his real fathder is? If its obama sr, that make his a brit at birth and never a nbc.

    Ed, give it up!

    Go back to obamacrimes!

  185. Obanana MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in less than 6 Months you did the IMPOSSIBLE make people Miss Bush and Wish he Never Left. I sure miss those first 6 yrs of BUSH when Republicans had a Majorirty and things were OK since LIE-berals took a Majority in Jan 2007 it has been HELL.

    Obama by his OWN ADMISSION is a British Citizen.
    Here is how it goes:
    No matter where he was born his daddy was a British Subject at birth therefore he was a Britsish Subject as well. Kenya become Independent in 1963 and his daddy become a Kenyan and BO as a minor of about 2 yrs old also HAD to become a Kenyan Citizen. He admits this much in his website that he was a Kenyan til age 21 when it expired. He never was USA Citizen because his mom was too young, the father’s citizenship is what rules, the bastardized “anchor baby” rule only took affect for children born 1986 on.

    The OVERLOOKED issue is that when his Kenyan Citizenship wasn’t RENEWED by him at 21 he British Citizenship kicked back in his Citizenship if not Renewed in Kenya REVERTS Back to ENGLAND. He is today by all accounts and his own admission a British and disqualified as a US Citizen or Natural Born.

  186. Peter and Truthbetold, we’re all neighbors! Talk about feeling like rainbows in the dark in this state, eh?

    I actually did have a chance to meet and talk with the former Lt. Governor and I was very impressed by her (her boss was also *my* boss!). I’m just sorry the election turned out the way it did. Look what we have in there now…

  187. It’s so simple. Dual citizenship does not disqualify a person fron citizenship. True, but it does disqualify you from being a natural born citizen.

    How? There is no operation of law in dual citizenship that could disqualify Obama, save his renouncing U.S. citizenship after he reached the age of 21. Absent such a declaration, he’s in. If you’ve checked citizenship law, you know that’s accurate.

    Also, there is no authentic proof he was born in Hawaii. I know if I were, I would pay the $14 and not hundred of thousands to hide it. Maybe Frank Marshall is his fathder.

    He paid the money, he got the certificate, he posted it on the web. You and your cohorts said that wasn’t good enough.

    Look, I’ve listed six ways he’s already established the presumption that he’s fully legal. You’ve answered none of them. Someone who seriously wishes to challenge Obama’s eligibility, as opposed to just being a pain in the butt, would have to overcome at least one of those presumptions.

    For example, here you allege, without any support, that the document the State of Hawaii swears is accurate, is not. So, we should take your word, in the comments thread of a minor blog, over the State of Hawaii? Remind me to keep you far, far away from any serious due diligence operation. I fear your woo might sway even good researchers.

    Do you know who his real father is? If its obama sr, that make his a brit at birth and never a nbc.

    According to U.S. law, absent your showing something different, Obama’s father is the man listed on the birth certificate as his father.

    Was that man a British citizen? Fine, then Obama has a shot at dual citizenship, an unperfected right to pick one or the other or stick with both when he is 21. Since we in the U.S. run our own laws, we decide whether or not a kid born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen, not Britain, not British law. Under U.S. law, a child born of a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil has two solid claims to being a natural born citizen. You claim he could also have chosen to give up that status and become a British citizen — but he did not. Game over.

    Under U.S. law, a child born on U.S. soil is a U.S. citizen unless there is a complicating factor. For British parents, such a complicating factor would be if one or both of the parents were either British soldiers, or British diplomats, who owe a duty to the British government that international law usually transfers to children.

    Obama’s father was neither a British diplomat nor a British soldier.

    Game over.

    Pick any scenario you choose, you come to a “game over, Obama’s the guy” conclusion.

    Ed, give it up!

    Hey, I’m not the guy chasing false hopes through bizarre and inaccurate misinterpretations of law more than nine months after the election. Take your own advice!

  188. Sorry, missed a “close quotes” there. You can figure it out with a little thinking. My apologies.

  189. As I mentioned before, the Kerchner et al vs Obama & Congress et al has designed a terrific new and hard-hitting Advertorial scheduled for tomorrow in the Washington Times National Weekly. Per this link it will be on page 11:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/17107553/

    Also, as someone else mentioned, if you want this type advertisement repeated, you can help get more of these advertorials placed in the next weeks too via this new site. See this site as to how to help:

    http://www.protectourliberty.org/

    Go get ‘em Kerchner et al and Atty Apuzzo!

    http://www.thebirthers.org

    RJ

  190. Crazy talk:

    He never was USA Citizen because his mom was too young, the father’s citizenship is what rules, the bastardized “anchor baby” rule only took affect for children born 1986 on.

    How could a mother be “too young?” There is no minimum age for citizenship in the U.S. Obama’s mother, born in Kansas, was a U.S. citizen.

    Under U.S. law, location of birth rules except in a few instances. Was he born on U.S. soil? Then he’s a natural born U.S. citizen — unless neither of his parents is a citizen (doesn’t apply because Obama’s mother WAS a citizen) AND one of the parents is either a diplomat or a soldier for a foreign nation.

    Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen, Obama was born on U.S. soil, end of story. BUT, Obama’s father was also neither a diplomat nor a soldier at the time of Obama’s birth.

    Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.

    In the U.S., we don’t let other nations rule who is or is not a U.S. citizen. The claim that Obama’s father’s citizenship determines U.S. law is whooey, complete buncombe.

    The OVERLOOKED issue is that when his Kenyan Citizenship wasn’t RENEWED by him at 21 he British Citizenship kicked back in his Citizenship if not Renewed in Kenya REVERTS Back to ENGLAND. He is today by all accounts and his own admission a British and disqualified as a US Citizen or Natural Born.

    Citizenship doesn’t have to be renewed.

    Do not accept any legal advice found as a prize in a Cracker Jack box.

  191. Ed Darrell,

    There is ONLY a PROBLEM with all your assumptions.

    HE HAS NEVER SHOWN A BIRTH CERTIFICATE from Hawaii or Anywhere else.

  192. Picture of Obama’s certificate here, showing the Seal of the Great State of Hawaii.

    Good enough for the full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution. By law, good enough for the U.S. State Department. Good enough for the FBI. Good enough for the CIA. Better than enough to meet your challenge.

  193. “Location rules” is LIKE I said only a “bastardization” of the law and ONLY after 1986.

    You can write all you want here. Until Obanana, The Plunderer-in-Thief shows Real Proof of who he is no one can be certain for sure of what his name and legal status is, BUT judging by what he has said his goose is cooked. He is NOT Natural Born Citizen of USA nor even a CITIZEN. He is a British Subject by the reverting of his non-renewed Kenyan Citizen at age 21.

    We have USURPARTION and FRAUDULENT election which Nulifies the DNC’s entry (President and VP both are Desqualified). This has to be a temporary President till a new election is held or by Default the second voted party wins.

    The BRITISH CITIZEN has got to go!!!

  194. That is NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE sir. You can’t call a Chevy a Ford no matter how many times you miscategorize one.

    Not only that BUT that set of pics that Factfake.org did seems to have used up to 3 different Documents to get that series of pics. That is HOW MUCH FRAUD THERE IS HERE.

  195. Francisco, your wish that the seal of the State of Hawaii were not on that document won’t make it go away.

    Go to the library. Get out Black’s Law Dictionary. Look up “under seal.”

    You can claim it is not a birth certificate, but Hawaiian statute says it is.

    There is a lot of fraud here, yes — all on your side.

    Have you taken your concerns to Homeland Security? Maybe they’ll listen to a Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero making threats on the president. Try it! Maybe you can find sympathizers there.

  196. STOP BEING FOOLISH. WHO made any threats? And more foolish than that is to think DHS would do anything about a sitting president…under what Jurisdiction or precedent? Not to mention they take orders from Obanana.

    That is NOT a Birth Certificate EVER. That is a Certification of Live Birth which was also given to people born outside Hawaii and even outside the USA. Obanana’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng by all accounst was born in Indonesia and she has a Hawaii COLB.

    Also Hawaii DOESN’T Accept a COLB as proof with further proof and investiagtion from Long Form BC, etc. It is in the statutes.

  197. BTW a quick analysis of the Pics on FactFake:

    Pic 3 NO Seal That is WHY there is a SHADOW in the middle in order to hide it and the markings are a diff color.

    You see pic No. 1 if you look to the left of the seal where the fold is the Longest line which is the Father’s name, it is BLANK even though it is the longest line and they put it out of FOCUS in purpose.

    4, 5 and 6 might be the same Document but the others aren’t so easy to tell and they may have used 2-3 documents or more, to get the series of pics.

    On one of them the Seal lines are crocked in comparison to the other seal lines in other docs that are parallel to the document lines.

    This is just stuff I can see quickly with the naked eye.

    If they allowed taking these pics WHY NOT HAVE A COUPLE OF INDEPENDENT DOCUMENT FORENSIC EXPERTS GO AND CHECK THE PHYSICAL DOCUMENTS instead of some amateur photographer? HIDING SOMETHING?

  198. By his OWN ADMISSION he is a British which is the “Citizenship” of his father.
    END OF STORY and end of the OFantasy.

  199. Ed Darrell said:

    “How can a kid born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen mother be anything other than a natural born citizen? Check the citizenship statutes. There’s nothing to disqualify him.”

    Yes there is:

    1. USC, Amendment XIV
    2. USC Article I, §3
    3. USC Article II, §5
    4. HRS §572-1
    5. The 1952 INA T3 C1, §301(a) and §309.

  200. Read Obama’s book. He didn’t say he was a British citizen solely, nor did he deny his U.S. citizenship. Stick to the facts.

    Here’s what the Hawaii statute says:

    §338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

    (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

    (c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]

    The copy, bearing the state seal, is all that is required.

    The seal is embossed. The “shadow” is there to show the embossing. Embossing is considered better, for authenticating purposes, than a mere rubber stamp.

    At my blog I posted only one of the photos. Fact Check had several — see them here. If you want more, call Obama’s campaign and ask to inspect the documents. Everyone who did that agreed it was the real thing. Fact Check took photos. I can’t help it if you don’t like the photos — you’re not a judge in this case. Nor, I take it, are you a judge, nor trained in the law.

    Documents aren’t accepted in courts by majority rule. If a document meets the rules of evidence, the judge allows it in. This document meets the rules.

    Have you ever done serious due diligence on documents like this? Generally we leave it to professionals, backed by lawyers. I’ve worked in both capacities. The question is what would hold up in court — and that document will hold up in court.

    You make wild allegations — that Obama claimed he is British, that the document isn’t real — but unless you’ve got some hard evidence to back such a claim, you’ve got a loser case.

  201. Ed Darrell // July 5, 2009 at 11:28 pm
    (snipped)

    When Kennedy died, Johnson took office, not Nixon. When Nixon resigned, Ford took office, not McGovern. Read the laws and amendment on presidential succession.

    ************************

    Ed,

    We’re not talking about dead and resigned presidents here. Besides, unlike the Usurper; Kennedy and Nixon were red blooded natural born American citizens, so rightfully; Johnson and Ford succeeded them. We’re talking about a usurper here. I must admit that I don’t know how it will be determined who will succeed the usurper. Beings the whole Democratic ticket was a fraud; the oval office should be turned over to McCain.

    Obama is not a natural born citizen by his very own admission on “his” fight the smears web site.

    Read the last paragraph here (read it all):
    fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    Last Paragraph:
    Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

    *Key words here: HIS KENYAN CITIZENSHIP

    The United States Constitution contains the language “natural born” as a qualification to become a US president. This language was included to prevent “anyone” with “possible” foreign allegiance (including dual citizenship) from becoming commander-in-chief.

    So, we’re not just picking on poor Obama. The rules are meant to apply to “anyone” who seeks the office of the POTUS.

    By his “own” admission, Obama’s Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982. He was born on Aug. 1, 1961, which made him 21 years old in 1982. The legal age to vote, get drafted, drink, and sexual consent, etc, changed from age 21 to age 18 in 1973. In other words, he was an “adult” for three years before his Kenyan citizenship expired.

    SO, WHY THEN DID HE WAIT THREE (3) YEARS FOR HIS KENYAN CITIZENSHIP TO EXPIRE?!?

    WHY DIDN’T “OBAMA” RUN RIGHT DOWN TO THE IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION OFFICE TO HAVE HIS “DUAL” CITIZENSHIP STATUS CHANGED WHEN HE TURNED 18?!?
    Not that it would have made any difference regarding eligibility to become POTUS.

    No, he was too busy traipsing around Karachi, Pakistan with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid in 1981 on an Indonesian passport, during which time America was told to keep out! Oh, and, what a coincidence; Chandoo was one of Obama’s of major campaign bundlers.

    Obama Bundlers:
    whitehouseforsale.org/candidate.cfm?CandidateID=c0009

    While Oblowhard was calling Americans “bitter” in San Francisco last year he also bragged that he had more foreign policy credentials than Hillary Clinton and John McCain. He also said that he had extensive foreign travel including a 1981 trip to Pakistan in his resume. Gee, I wonder why he never mentioned “THAT” again? Was he tired? Bragging? Or, just a slip of the tongue, perhaps? And, of course; the alleged msm never breathed a word of it!

  202. Civis naturaliter natus

    Ed Darrel,

    I submit that you are about 10 months behind on the issue of what a NBC is… please read other sites on this, because it is a waste of our time to teach you what you can read for yourself. If you just want to be contentions, fine, go elsewhere and do it…

  203. OK Folks – Hear is some Sarah Palin ammunition.
    I just did the anagram for “Sarah Palin” and it came up “La Piranhas”

    NO WONDER THE LIBERALS ARE AFRAID OF HER.

  204. A good article on Sarah –

    http://www.adn.com/palin/story/853705.html

  205. Ed…..what was the purpose of the NBC clause in the first place?

    To prevent dual loyalties…..Obama is a BritoKendoIndonesian

    Your initial website is ridiculous and all 6 points have been blown out of the water by those who have truly investigated the issue…you are grotesquely ininformed…..

    Come back when you can answer the questions from a much more informed perspective because that site is truly a pathetic attempt at keeping you all onm kool aid

  206. As a genealogist I am aware that Barack Obama’s certificate of live birth posted on the internet is merely a computer generated transcription of information from the ORIGINAL document. Many states provide this type of documentation rather than photocopying the original document. However, PERTINENT INFORMATION IS OMITTED as well as LEGAL NOTATIONS SUBSEQUENT TO BIRTH SUCH AS NAME CHANGES, ADOPTIONS, ETC. These documents are legal in most cases as long as they bear a state imprint. Unfortunately, falsification of such certificates could be relatively simple and may be subject to scrutiny.

    We need to proceed with HR1503
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503

    Why shouldn’t every political candidate provide a copy of his or her original birth certificate in order to prove eligibility? I had to present mine just to renew my driver’s license. My daughter was required to present college transcripts in order to get a job working with children who have autism. Barack Obama was elected to the most important position on the globe so he should have freely provided school records and a photocopy of his original birth certificate. But instead, he has refused to present the document numerous times to Federal Courts and has undoubtedly spent much money in legal fees. Genealogists and many, many other American law abiding citizens find this quite disturbing. It is common knowledge that his mother was an unwed teen ager so this certainly is not the issue. What is Barack Obama hiding? Where is the transparency he promised?

    All we know about him is what is printed in his two books. He has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints – none! There is no Obama documentation – no bona fides- no paper trail – nothing. What is he hiding? And who on this earth has the power and wherewithal to hide or destroy all of these documents?
    Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
    Certificate of Live Birth — Released
    Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
    Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
    Soetoro adoption records — Not released
    Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
    Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
    Punahou School records — Not released
    Selective Service Registration — Released
    Occidental College records — Not released
    Passport — Not released
    Columbia College records — Not released
    Columbia thesis — Not released
    Harvard College records — Not released
    Harvard Law Review articles — None
    Baptism certificate — None
    Medical records — Not released
    Illinois State Senate records — None
    Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
    Law practice client list — Not released
    University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

    Barack Obama should just present his original birth certificate and put this contoversy to rest.

  207. magna carta

    Keep saying it:
    Natural Born Citizen means “unity of citizenship at birth”
    Case closed.

  208. Ed Darrell is nothing more than an Obot stamping his size 5 shoe on the floor yelling, “He is eligible”. Why do these Obots obsess over these Sites with their protestations if they think we are all tinfoil conspiracy nuts? Answer….Because they know we are right and Bambi will eventually be unmasked as a Usurper. If these Obots were so comfortable in their position that Obama is eligible they would not be wasting their time here.

  209. citizenwells

    Ed will be moderated henceforth.
    His agenda is clear.

  210. citizenwells

    Well said Pat.
    As a matter of fact, early in 2008, it was the frantic approach to discrediting
    me and others that convinced me there was a big problem with BO.

  211. ms. helga @ 7:30

    That was awesome! As I watched, I just imagined Barry as the “Lame Duck” …. LOL!

  212. Lurker @ 4:28,

    RIGHT ON BROTHER!!!!!

  213. CW @ 9:39,

    THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  214. Great INSPIRING VIDEO is eveyone starting to miss Bush who was a REAL AMERICAN of course with faults like we all haev BUT he was not a packaged everythign to everyone no matter what it costs and destroy anything or anyone that gets in the way like Obanana the Brittish Citizen.

    Ed Darrel see what a LEADER is, see what a REAL AMERICAN sounds like.

  215. citizenwells // July 6, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Well said Pat.
    As a matter of fact, early in 2008, it was the frantic approach to discrediting
    me and others that convinced me there was a big problem with BO.
    —————————————————

    I have also come to that same conclusion. The Obots “Doth protest too much” on a subject they claim is moot.

  216. Thanks Val-

    OK Folks – Hear is some Sarah Palin ammunition.
    I just did the anagram for “Sarah Palin” and it came up “La Piranhas”

    NO WONDER THE LIBERALS ARE AFRAID OF HER.
    AND LOOK AT WHAT SHE DID TO THE LAME DUCK

  217. bob strauss

    Jonah,The two documents,”released”, the COLB, and selective service registration, are forgeries. The SS document was not released by Barry, it had to be pried, out of the records, with a FOIA request, and after much delay, someone manufactured a forged SS registration. The “COLB”, posted by the “Obama” campaign, is their” fall back” document. Ask any obot, for proof, of “Obama,s”, NBC status, and they will “fall back”, and say, ” he’s legitimate, he has released his birth certificate, it’s on the internet”. Well, the image is not a birth certificate, it is a forgery, of a document issued by Hawaii, to certify, the information, contained on, an original birth certificate. Google, Ron Polarik , and listen, to the video about the infamous “COLB”.

  218. Civis naturaliter natus

    Bob Strauss,

    After arguing with many Obots in the last 8 months, I’ve come to the working hypothesis that

    1) For Obots, Zero is the definitionn of a NBC
    2) For Obots, Zero can do no wrong
    3) For Obots, Zero is innocent a priori of all charges
    4) For Obots, Zero is above the law
    5) For Obots, those who criticize Zero are heretics
    6) For Obots, those who do not support Zero are unamerican, and possible supporters of domestic terroist
    7) For Obots, non-obots are racists
    8) For Obots, those who raise the NBC or BC issues are politically motived
    9) For Obots, the Constitution is only of value when it support Zero’s claim and grab for power, when it gets in the way, it is not important
    10) For Obots, Zero can work miracles
    11) For Obots, Zero can save the world and the planet

    I am waiting for other evidence to determine if

    11) For Obots, Zero can rise from the Dead
    12) For Obots, just how much more power Zero has than God Almighty…

    :-)) !

  219. RACIST RANTS THAT THE Bedamate Media will stay away from and ACTIVELY Work to Hide:

    Soulja Boy Tell Em may be a little too comfortable posting his thoughts on his Twitter page. The Atlanta native, who has around 976,000 followers, recently went on a racist rant against the media’s portrayal of his music and image.

    “Water down my music and my appearance and make me look like something I’m not,” he twittered. “These crackers don’t know who the f— I really am!!!! Then I get signed, this is where my dream slowly died… these crackaz wanna’ criticize a n–ga. Take REAL sh-t and turn it to trash. Like why? Like really. My music dream was the sh– 2 years ago before I was signed. It was everything I could ever imagine.

    “Yeah I said f— all of ya’ll,” he continued. “I’m taking my money and leaving. Gonna’ go blow kush and live my 2nd dream. This rap sh-t [is] lame now.”

    FULL STORY:
    http://www.theboombox.com/2009/07/03/soulja-boy-goes-on-racist-twitter-rant-against-media/?icid=main|htmlws-sb|dl5|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theboombox.com%2F2009%2F07%2F03%2Fsoulja-boy-goes-on-racist-twitter-rant-against-media%2F

  220. Jacqlyn Smith

    Thank you all for taking care of Ed the dummy Darrell…..I am getting tired of educating these Liberal morons on the Constitution and the illegitimacy of Mr. Soetoro!! Thanks again!

  221. Bob Strauss,
    The COLB and SS documents can both be downloaded, then right click, and you can see that they were both photoshopped.

  222. Civis naturaliter natus (July 4, 2009 at 11:15 am) wrote:

    “This is a blog: typographical errors occur to haste, or insufficient use of the keyboard, not to carelessness with facts. Citizen wells also makes no mistakes as you assert…”

    Civis, typically, a typographic error does not substitute a ‘u’ (typed with index finger of right hand) for an ‘e’ (typed with middle finger of left hand). Also mitigating against a typographic error, two of the spellings result in the same pronunciation and the third spelling is close to the same pronunciation.

    I never asserted that CW makes no mistakes. I don’t know anyone who makes no mistakes. Do you?

    Furthermore, the three spellings of the plaintiff’s name made me wonder if the real author of that post was inadvertently unidentified, and CW retained the three spellings to be faithful to the original writer’s work. (Although in such an instance a ‘[sic]‘ would normally be inserted.) Because misspellings are not CW’s SOP (in fact, I don’t remember his ever misspelling any word), the authorship was not clear to me. And because CW has retained the three spellings (two of them misspellings), I still am unable to determine that he’s the author.

    Regardless of whether a site is a blog, a ‘news’ site, a genuine journalistic site, a dictionary, or an encyclopedia, readers of those sites very frequently copy some of their content and paste it in another site, relaying what they believe to be fact. If the original site is not a responsible site, carefully doublechecking its sources, etc., then chances are greater that (1) the site has included misinformation and (2) that misinformation will be COPIED, pasted sans verifying, and end up transmitted all over the blogosphere with readers assuming the misinformation is fact. (Google searches prove this beyond a doubt.)

    Example from my experience:
    A person very close to a lawyer who has litigated against Obama posted, on the lawyer’s blog, information purportedly straight from the lawyer’s mouth. Because that information could be highly significant in a case against Obama, I copied that post and relayed it verbatim to another lawyer litigating against Obama. Much later, the person who had claimed to have conveyed the lawyer’s words denied having done so . . . and then I found that the person’s original post had become inaccessible so I could not cite it for evidence (although I had kept a copy).

    Why the denial? Because this person had misquoted the lawyer? Because the person had quoted the lawyer without the lawyer’s permission, and the lawyer was using the information in a case against Obama and wanted to keep it under wraps? Whatever the reason, what do you think was the consequence if the second lawyer accepted my email as fact, without first confirming it with the quoted lawyer, and included it in a case?

    In a nutshell, relaying misinformation can be perilous to the efforts to remove the Resident from the White House. Misinformation can invalidate, can nullify, what might otherwise be a winning lawsuit. Are you in favor of that?

  223. CW,

    We all recognize an Obama paid blogger when we see one. At least you allowed ed to voice his opinion.
    I posted on a ”progressive, web-based news source” last night that had ridiculed Missouri legislators for attending Orly Taitz events. My post was similar to one I posted here at 7:47am. They scrubbed my comments this morning. So much for free speech.
    http://www.firedupmissouri.com/content/speaker-richard-not-concerned-about-birther-conspiracies

    I’m going to post it again and I’ll bet I’m blocked.

  224. Ed Darrell (July 6, 2009 at 4:08 am) asked:

    “Have you ever done serious due diligence on documents like this? Generally we leave it to professionals, backed by lawyers. I’ve worked in both capacities.”

    And (July 5, 2009 at 11:28 pm) Ed stated that Obama is:

    “a natural born U.S. citizen”

    And again (July 6, 2009 at 2:17 am), Ed stated unequivocally:

    “Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen.”

    Ed, I haven’t read everything you’ve written, have just skimmed through some of it. So I want to ask: How did you explain FactCheck’s own words at Obama’s Fight the Smears campaign site:

    “his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

    http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    Does the expiration of Obama’s Kenyan citizenship mean that he was once a citizen of Kenya?

    And if Obama was indeed a citizen of Kenya, how did he become a NATURAL BORN AMERICAN citizen? That is a truly bizarre transmogrification!

    Moreover, why, at the same URL, did Obama (or whoever authored the statement) state that “Barack Obama” is “a native citizen of the United States of America”? Did you explain that somewhere and I missed it?

    Can you find ANYwhere, or at ANY time, Obama STATING that he is a “natural born American citizen”? With the legal background you profess, surely you know the extremely significant difference between “NATIVE citizen” and “NATURAL BORN citizen.” Where is your “serious due diligence” on this seriously critical, peripatetic avoidance of stating that Obama is a natural born American citizen?

    My last question, where did you acknowledge that FactCheck.org (not to be confused with factcheck.com) is funded by the Annenberg Foundation, of which Obama was, reportedly, formerly a board member? Did you mention that Obama chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, or any of the $$$ details of that association, which included William Ayers?

  225. obots looking for the truth. . . . . They know bodyodor will eventually go away. They are just trying to find something to run back to the “PRINCE OF CRAP” to keep him informed of our progress. And as far as Sarah Palin goes…
    SHE IS OUR SHINING STAR. She plans to give up politics for OUR (HER) COUNTRY. NO GREATER LOVE THAN THAT! BUT, AFTER THE “PRINCE OF CRAP” IS OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE SHE WILL BE OUR NEW LEADER. LOVE YOU SARAH. LIKE SHE SAID:
    ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.

  226. Bob Strauss,
    I know that Obama is a fraud and I am well aware about the COLB and the SS. If the posted COLB is a forgery then the Hawaii AG should be convicting the document owner of fraud.

    The Hawaii Dept of Health issues a numbered receipt along with the requested documents. I have one here on my desk with COLBs of family members who were born in Hawaii. It contains names of registrants, so tracing whomever requested Obama’s BC should be easy. Factcheck.org should also show the receipt in order to eliminate any doubt.

  227. Why do these Obots obsess over these Sites with their protestations if they think we are all tinfoil conspiracy nuts? Answer….Because they know we are right and Bambi will eventually be unmasked as a Usurper. If these Obots were so comfortable in their position that Obama is eligible they would not be wasting their time here

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Exactly, and this factor alone I can not understand…….when all evidence put forth is irrefutable, when some of the smartest, non-partisan arguments begin to hit home and glow with the obvious truths that the man is a fraud…….most intelligent people would reconsider their positions and admit that, well, I guess I was wrong there, boys and girls…..but, no….it’s not happening with these people!!!
    Could someone please explain what happened to common sense???

  228. Jonah, about that law practice client list … According to IL ethics laws, as a (part-time) state senator, BO had to submit a list of clients to the state ethics commission. For at least a year – I believe it was 2000 – BO was paid a monthly retainer of $8,000 by Robert Blackwell (Killerspin) for legal services . Mr. Blackwell delivered this money to BO via the Davis Law Firm. However, BO was not employed by the Davis Law Firm at this time. Rather, he was listed “Of Counsel,” which meant, if a client came to the law firm for representation, depending on the type of case, the firm might refer that client to BO, instead. Well, when BO delivered his client list to the ethics board, he merely offered up the complete client list of the Davis Law Firm, which now included Robert Blackwell, whose only affiliation, on paper, with the law firm was that, he was paying BO through that firm. I want to point out that, MO refers to how broke they were during this time, when BO was receiving Blackwell’s $8,000/month, paying off student loans (of which there is no record). Also, right after this time, BO wrote a letter on IL state senate stationery recommending the senate should fund Blackwell’s table tennis comany, Killerspin, for a state tournament, not disclosing his business relationship with the man. The senate awarded the funds. Immediately thereafter, Blackwell contributed money to BO’s campaign fund. (Here is an article that contains most of this information.)
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-killerspin27apr27,0,6789688.story

  229. Civis naturaliter natus

    Anonymous,

    Perhaps you need to refine your reading skills.

    Never expand the declatory statement of a verbal expression outside of its natural or obvious context.

    Using that self-evident rule of textual interpretation, you might want to withdraw you entire post.

    Also, note that in a subsequent post, I corrected my statement.

    Thank you…

  230. Ed,

    Explain to us how Obama’s sister has a birth certificate issued in Hawaii when she was born in Indonesia. Fishy, huh?

    Obama may very well be a US Citizen since he is married to one; still, this doesn’t make him an NBC especially when he himself thru his webpage admitted that his father was subject to British law being a Kenyan citizen. It takes two American citizens to make a natural born child if said child is born in US soil…Obama doesn’t fit in that equation. Plus and most importantly, if BHO is a Natural Born Citizen, then why hasn’t he proven it already??

  231. For the O-Bot obfuscaters here.

    A USC Title 8 Section 1401 “citizen at birth” is NOT a “natural born citizen”. They are two completely different legal terms of art. Nothing in that 1401 law, which is nothing more than an instant naturalization law for certain sets of circumstances, even mentions the legal term of art, “natural born citizen”. Natural born citizenship in a nation is granted by nature since man formed nations, not by a written law.

    See this essay at Country First for further details:
    http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4376

    http://www.thebirthers.org

    RJ

  232. GREAT ARTICLE & COMMENTS ON SARAH

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=480138

  233. jbjd,

    If Obama was born in Hawaii there is government documentation that may prove that native born and natural born are synonymous.

    Plan B – We should be investigating and documenting BO’s and MO’s illegal and unethical activities.

  234. http://www.firedupmissouri.com/content/speaker-richard-not-concerned-about-birther-conspiracies

    The ”progressive, web-based news source” posted my comments about BO’s BC after I omitted that :

    We need to proceed with HR1503
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503

    Guess they don’t want presidential candidates to prove they are natural born citizens.

  235. citizenwells

    jbjd
    I covered the Robert Blackwell (Killerspin) connections extensively.

  236. cw,

    Need advice. Sending you an email shortly.

  237. zachjonesishome

    FYI – I just saw this. We will see.
    http://crystalchalice.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/grand-jury-indictments-will-be-heard-by-chief-magistrate-royce-lamberth/

    GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS WILL BE HEARD BY CHIEF MAGISTRATE ROYCE LAMBERTH
    By Chalice

    Patriot’s Heart Network releases the following:

    Following Patriot’s Heart Network’s trip to Washington DC along with American Grand Jury representatives, Dr. Penny Kelso, Mack Ellis and Carl Swensson, Chalice reports the following:

    Patriot’s Heart Network contacted Chief Magistrate Judge Royce Lamberth’s office this morning. The following information was provided:

    1) A case number will be assigned to the American Grand Jury presentments served to the District Court on Monday July 13th, 2009. The number will be provided to Carl Swensson shortly.

    2) Chief Magistrate Judge, Royce Lamberth will make a decision on the American Grand Jury presentment.

    3) Citizens can file petitions with the court once a number is provided. Further information will be forthcoming.

    4) A Lawyer is needed who can instruct on the process of petition filing in the US District Court.

    This is it, everyone…. THE GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS WILL BE HEARD! …..

  238. Jonah, I made a similar comment on the LA Times blog page on a story about BO’s BC and it remained in moderation for a few hours and then it disappeared. Good job.

  239. truthbetold11

    Palins light is to bright and darkness hates the light for fear of its evil deeds being exposed.

  240. How we GOT SCAMMED by one of the Biggest (LEGAL) Donors to Obanana:

    Matt Taibbi on how Goldman Sachs has engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression
    MATT TAIBBI

    Posted Jul 02, 2009 8:38 AM

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print

  241. Zach @ 2:20

    Is the below comment yours? I read your blog everyday and would definitely take your comments seriously. Just wondering if this is your opinion or someone elses. If it’s yours … I’m excited!! No offense to anyone else, but I have followed your blog and feel comfortable with your opinions.

    This is it, everyone…. THE GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS WILL BE HEARD! …..

    Thanks Zach

  242. Grand Jury:

    I have been reading about this and wouldn’t get all excited yet. It seems that it got accepted and a decision will be made on whether it will be “heard”. It is a good step and good news, but only another small step on this long FRADULENT ELECTION Journey.

  243. IT’s probly best to keep this closed to the vest until it is scheduled to be heard and the point of no return without consequences is reached. We all know how the other side operates they are PAID PROFESSIONAL PROTESTERS.

  244. zachjonesishome

    Zach @ 2:20

    Is the below comment yours?

    Not my comment. I will be following it closely. Thank you. Zach

  245. Jonah,
    Plan B – We should be investigating and documenting BO’s and MO’s illegal and unethical activities.
    ==============
    Agreed, this path should be run on along with
    the ineligibility issues.

  246. Easy folks. To check him out just look at his School certificate by private investigator (tatan sulvyana); look the article in Israel Insider (obama lies and hidden truth) then cross check with his own book Dreams from my father; then cross check with Indonesian immigration law that being applied during his time in Indonesia. Last but not the least Indonesian law do permit the parents or guardian determined the child nationality status or religious right on their wish and not the child unless the child reach 17 or had married before that time, when the child is moved to Indonesian soil for anyone that being moved on Indonesian soil and had been adopted by Indonesian father shall becoming Indonesian nationality and automatically renounced his/her former nationality in this case Kenyan, British and Americans. And if that child after adulthood never asked to change his/her nationality when that child is become adult then he/ her still indeed an Indonesian citizen. .

  247. truthbetold11

    Listening to karl rove wine over palin decision to resign. Karl she’s not you typical yes man politician. She’s a servant of the people she works for us. and the people who hate ran her out the door with fake ethics lawsuits. This won’t even put a dent in her future if anything she took a stand against politics as usual. get govt of the peoples back. thats her quote!

  248. bob strauss

    Jonah, I agree, the state of Hawaii should speak up and side with the people. It is outrageous to keep simple facts such as the presidents birth place secret. The Hawaiian government is supposed to represent the people, not Obama, yet they are fighting, “tooth, and nail”, to represent Obama, and keep the records, of his birth, hidden from Andy Martin.

  249. Test

  250. Where is Cindy Sheehan?
    Where is the DAILY BODY COUNT?
    Where is the Dedmate Media Coverage of the dead soldeirs flag draped caskets that they FOUGHT SO HARD TO BE ABLE TO BROADCAST and Obanana said he would allow?
    You see troops are only “worthy lives lost” when LIE-berals use them for political protest.

    What a difference a letter makes change and R to a D and the same “CRIMES” that were horrid now are overlooked.

    Where are the cries of Stolen adn FRAUDULENT Elections?
    Where are the calls of “Obama the Warmonger”?

    LIE-berals are so pervertedly open minded their little brains fell out long ago. You can bring a LIE-beral to the truth but you will never make him believe it, instead he will be manufacturing 1000 more lies.

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