Tom Salmon, Vermont State Auditor, Switches to GOP, Democratic State Auditor Salmon now Republican, September 8, 2009, Citizen Wells interview

Tom Salmon, Vermont State auditor, announced that he is switching parties and will now be a Republican. Citizen Wells was at the Vermont State Capitol building when the announcement was made. Here is an interview with Tom Salmon.

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121 responses to “Tom Salmon, Vermont State Auditor, Switches to GOP, Democratic State Auditor Salmon now Republican, September 8, 2009, Citizen Wells interview

  1. Civis Naturaliter Natus
  2. Thanks CW.

    Although I view moving from the donkeys to the elephants is merely the same as the NFL’s free trade system. The real issue is that it’s still the NFL and it’s still the same game, metaphorically speaking.

  3. Good, CW-thanks for posting. You’re doing a great job up there in the Northeast Kingdom!

  4. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW,

    I watched your video. This is a good start.

    You will get a politico’s attention if you ask for an interview on the basis of your blog:

    Phrase your initial request thus:

    “I am a correspondent for Citizen Wells, an online Blog for News and Political Discourse, and am here today to report on…..; can you give me 5 minutes for an interview?”

    Then don’t let them run their mouths, but hit them with questions which require short answers..

    You can also ask them to stand up straight; this is not insulting….I would not recommend getting to close, you don’t want to cut off the top of their head, but it is acceptable to cut off one shoulder if you want to capture some background as context…

    (Some advice..I am no professional, but have done some video volunteer work for my local Public Access Cable channel)

  5. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    At Orly’s Blog, Teo Bear left this comment:

    “After reviewing the latest motion to dismiss against Dr. Taitz we have looked at it and found that the arguments the Department of Justice are not supported by the case law they cite and that the premise of their objections is clearly seen that the Attorney General is advocating a suspension of our Constitutional Republic with no recourse to the courts. ”

    And this link

    http://birthers.org/misc/DOJreply.htm

    which lists numerous errors in the AGs legal argument in the Motion to Dismiss…

    Go Teo!….

  6. Just heard it may be another two hours wait for Orly

  7. Chavez says of Obama “He’s intelligent, he has good intentions and we have to help him.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5864ME20090907

  8. OK, I’ve never been a ‘follower’ of Alex Jones and I sure don’t plan on starting now.

    Charlie Sheen? Give me a break! He must be the “half” of Two and Half Men.

    I agree with fellow commenters here that if there were anything to connect Bush to 9/11 – it would have been done along time ago.

  9. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/docs/born_in_the_usa_congressional_testimony_by_eastman.pdf

    Here’s the Congressional Testimony which nails Obama: being born on US soil of a foreign father does NOT make one a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment…but Congress could grant statutory citizenship to such a person…

    ergo not NBC!

    This was in 2005…so no one in DC can claim ignorance!

  10. I get “Password Protected” on that PDF CNN

  11. CNN,

    Help me!!! I’m also on dial up today and can’t get the info fast enough. Is TeoBear making that statement or was that from the judge?
    I’m on the edge on my seat!
    Might have to leave early to get home for Beck! I want to know who’s going to jail !!!!
    I HATE DIAL UP !!

  12. CW,

    So glad to hear another switching parties in the right direction!

    I Love it! They’re jumping ship ! Maybe a little worried about next year!

    Keep yelling people, keep yelling!

  13. CNN @ 1:37

    Couldn’t get it opened???

  14. GG,
    No problem here with the PDF. CNN, TY for the link.

  15. Fernley Girl // September 8, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Chavez says of Obama “He’s intelligent, he has good intentions and we have to help him.”
    ********************************************

    He means just like the FRAUD helped Chavez….they are one in the same….the DEVIL in disguise!!

  16. #

    val // September 8, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    CNN,

    Help me!!! I’m also on dial up today and can’t get the info fast enough. Is TeoBear making that statement or was that from the judge?
    I’m on the edge on my seat!
    Might have to leave early to get home for Beck! I want to know who’s going to jail !!!!
    I HATE DIAL UP !!
    *****************************************

    Val—Teo Bear is a big follower of Apuzzo….he stated the above at Mario’s site the other day….I read it there….he is analyzing why he believes the judge should not listen to these Communist and the FRAUD in Chief!!

  17. Since Chavez loves BO so much, I see no problem with BO moving over there to live with him.

  18. Who is going to jail? Acorn representatives? Pelosi? Another Czar? Obama? Michelle?

    I hate cliff hangers

  19. Rangel…tax evasion?

  20. sandy

    It’s a ratings strategy………..

  21. sandy,

    Obummer … usurping?

    LOL! ( gosh, we can wish can’t we! )

  22. Someone said the other day Orly’s suit was filed before the election or Jan 20th. Why is even the DOJ involved?

  23. I know it is for ratings….
    I majored in broadcasting,….lol

    But….I know I have always felt in my gut that Obama was wrong because he is not American!!

    Maybe they have verified the BC?? A gal can hope……

  24. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Rocknee,

    Because to aide and abet the usurper, they played games with the service: first Orly tried to Serve Obama as Obama at the White house, but they refused to receive it; then she tried to serve him at the DOJ and they sneakily sent someone not authorized to receive service…so 6 months passed, and the defendents claimed to Carter than they never received service, and that now that Obama is president, the case must proceed against the USA…not him personally…

    Sneaky, snarky, childish, crooked….add some adjectives of your own….

  25. I think they were all in it (9-11) up to their eyeballs: media/dems/repubs/military. They all have guilty knowledge. I think that is why EVERYONE fears this issue. This administration is continuing to use the Patriot Act which was the result of 9-11, and Obama is using it for his war in Afghanistan. That is why no one will ever investigate this willingly.

  26. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I’m home with the flu, today, so, I’ll take a snooze until something is reported in Orly’s case, hopefully in another 4 hours…

  27. Everyone,

    The Model Complaint of Election Fraud to State A’sG is up.

    Use this in the best of health.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/model-complaint-of-election-fraud-to-state-attorneys-general/

  28. Judge Carter is Listening – Dr. Orly Taitz Wins
    Just at facebook…..must verify though…looks like Zach Jones is the source!

    One for the Good Guys – LA Times Reports – How Will
    Source: zachjonesishome.wordpress.com
    Lawful orders are lawful orders and unlawful orders are unlawful! How can anyone serving as President who is not a “Natural Born Citizen” issue any lawful orders? Don’t Support Bailouts of Failed

  29. Never mind the above post….it looks like an old report from the first time she was in court with Carter!!

  30. **** Larry Sinclair update ****
    I knew ahead of time that Larry Sinclair was traveling to LA
    for the Orly Taitz court session. I spoke to him again several times this
    morning.
    He has an update on his blog:

    http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  31. VAL,

    I have been listening to Alex intermittently today. The reason they are bringing this out now (they say) is because there is cause to fear there may be a STAGED terror attack again, especially in view of the fact O’s numbers are falling.

    As a side note, Initially I, too, was skeptical about the conversation that 9/11 was a staged attack. After doing months of research on my own, I’m no longer skeptical.

    There’s a lot of info on the http://www.911truth.org website. Take a look at the side bar on the left – Professionals for 911 truth.

  32. From facebook wall of Orly’s…

    Karen Mahan For all of us awaiting news of Orly’s hearing for 8:00 this AM…at 9:30 Pacific time the judge’s docket is backed up & it could be a couple more hours beyond that time before her hearing comes up. Keep praying as time is on our side!!!

  33. zachjonesishome

    I have not posted anything on facebook. Sorry. Zach

  34. zachjonesishome

    That’s an old post at my blog about the first hearing. Zach

  35. CNN.
    Which interview are you referring to?
    I have some more to post as well.
    The Tom Sanders interview was instantaneous, the result of my being in the
    right place at the right time. There was zero prep time.
    Remember, you did not hear all of the dialogue. I was damned lucky to get it.
    I still have a quick question I asked Bernie Sanders yesterday to put up.
    Wait till you hear the VT Republican legislator blast Senator Patrick Leahy.
    I have a lot going on. Stay tuned.

  36. #

    zachjonesishome // September 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    That’s an old post at my blog about the first hearing. Zach
    *********************************************

    Zach…that is what I thought…..I told them so at facebook too!

  37. Three hour trail delay, bad sign……….

  38. So much stuff has been touted as “shocking” etc that I will wait until I see it to assess whether or not it warrants that kind of label. I’m afraid there has been so much of this kind of hype in the past that it’s like the little boy crying wolf.

    As to previous thread on CW, yes “they” could have “known” about the 9/11 thing ahead of time. The problem with intelligence work is that, just like the news or police work…or what we do here, there is so much coming in all the time. It has to be sorted by source and truth, verified and analyzed, conclusions reached and recommendations made (just like all the bc stuff). Now, finally, it is ready to go to the policy makers. Short cuts can come to the wrong decisions…but, sometimes they are necessary. There are so many variables. We will never know the whole truth in this life. I don’t believe someone, other than those taking part in the atrocity, purposely aided and abetted the 9/11 horror. It is possible that the intel was there but not fully processed or exploited. Hindsight is always 20/20. Who knows if any one of us, in the same situation, could have done any better with it.

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  40. CNN–take care of yourself….you are at least the fourth person commenting here that has been ill of late….hmmmm. What kind of flu do you have?

  41. Army, it’s not a bad sign- they always get backed up in court and move the short motions to the front of the line so that people don’t have to stay in court all day for a few-sentence appearance. It’s good, it means that Orly will get some time in front of the judge.

  42. On Orly’s facebook wall the info is that Gary Kreep is trying to dis Orly, but the judge wants them to settle their differences.

  43. Did you read what Larry Sinclair just published about Dentist Taitz? He basically said she is in “chaos”.

    I predict this case gets dismissed in a few hours. If it does, I hope she drops out of this and lets a real lawyer handle it.

  44. Truth Exists

    Don’t hold your breath………..

  45. I’m almost holding my breathe awaiting
    Orly’s hearing. I have dial-up and I’ll add to
    the “it’s awful” comment of Val’s.

    I can’t get the video links to show up here either.
    This happened after I got the computer
    back from Geek Squad. Do I need to download
    something to view the videos? Thanks.

  46. #

    Ace // September 8, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Did you read what Larry Sinclair just published about Dentist Taitz? He basically said she is in “chaos”.

    I predict this case gets dismissed in a few hours. If it does, I hope she drops out of this and lets a real lawyer handle it.
    ******************************************

    Ace….Larry said he didn’t like what she asked him and was repeating stuff others said…that is why he won’t get involved….I’m beginning to think all these people are in it for themselves to say….it was me that took the FRAUD down. Orly asked for others to help…I just hope Kreep doesn’t ruin it for everyone…it isn’t his case to win or loose….Orly filed it and should get to proceed the way she wishes…..I know she is getting advice from other attorneys who were recruited…BY HER…to help with this!!

  47. Significant info on 9/11 here, too, from pilots.

    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

    These pilots have produced their own dvd. They used to have a trailer to it available online.

  48. Someone slip Orly an Adderall so she can focus!

  49. Hello, Gang…I did post some replies to stuff from JS, SueK, & GG on the previous thread rather than dragging it here…hope you’ll check it out.
    ———————————————————-
    I mentioned awhile back, though it didn’t seem to draw any responses: the continual ‘takeover’…or replacement on prominent intersections all over the area…former big name gas stations being bought by big name drug store chains…at an alarming rate.

    And now, most of them are advertising “get your flu shot here”…only $24.99 (or something close to that)…so, follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$…
    how many of those do you suppose they’ll sell in the next few months @ nearly 25bucks a ‘pop’?
    And you thought the price of a gallon of gas was steep? What do you suppose a gallon of that vaccine is worth?! Someone wanna do the math?
    Can you say “yikes!”?
    ———————————————————–
    It will be interesting to see what the ‘silent whiteys’ (Bill & HRC included) have ‘up their sleeve’…pun intended?…’roll ‘em up!’….
    did you see Rev. Manning’s video? He forgot to mention Texas, I noticed. Hmmmm…

  50. I am sure that jbjd and cnn will both agree that the two most important things that hold this country together are THE CONSTITUTION and the RULE OF LAW. Without these we will all fall into a Third World chaos. Until officials all agree to uphold these two values we will be in very dangerous waters. Keep the faith everyone.
    I once mentioned that I always read Drudge, Lucianne and CW. But now my order is CW first.

    PS -Alex Jones is an A$$HOLE

  51. #

    ms. helga // September 8, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I am sure that jbjd and cnn will both agree that the two most important things that hold this country together are THE CONSTITUTION and the RULE OF LAW. Without these we will all fall into a Third World chaos. Until officials all agree to uphold these two values we will be in very dangerous waters. Keep the faith everyone.
    I once mentioned that I always read Drudge, Lucianne and CW. But now my order is CW first.

    PS -Alex Jones is an A$$HOLE
    *******************************************
    Ms Helga….I think you are right on that PS part!!

  52. twe-I agree-Hindsight is 20/20, I’m sure the government had an idea that our country would be attacked, somewhere, sometime etc. Tons of information needs to be processed-unfortunately some good, some bad, some paranoia etc. Those terrorists received their flight training down here in Florida. No one put that together until after the fact. I think this enemy devoted time to look for our “soft spots” and when they did, they exploited the living daylights out of them. Before this happened the last time we had contact with Kamikaze pilots was World War 2 and look at the damage they did. Engineers are looking at this too, they are desperately trying to figure out why these buildings failed in the way that they did. One good reason is:future design.
    They just did a report on TV re: 911 calls, people using it as directory information. The dispatchers get so frustrated because as soon as call is received a response team is on its way.

  53. Ms Helga,

    I second that!

  54. Larry Sinclair decided not to go to CA—I suppose that was his choice. But, I see no
    reason to have posted the comments he did
    on his blog. It’s devisive and hurts Orly’s
    fight IMO.

  55. I’ll bet the “arrests” have to do with ACORN.
    Wish it were “others!”

  56. Re-do // September 8, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    GG @ 11:06 & SueK @ 12:49 re Beck vs Alex vs Malkin vs ?…the list seems to go on and on…
    but maybe it’s like the old ‘witnesses to an accident’ thing…each one sees the same accident; but reports on the part of it that stuck most in their own mind. So, it may not necessarily all be in contradiction…but rather bits and pieces that are complementary, with some ‘human error’ tossed into the mix.
    We The People are the jury…who need to deliberate about all the ‘testimony’, and try to filter and sift out the facts from the fiction.

    Not sure what you mean by this but with Alex chanting to a “mob” “Kill Michelle Malkin Kill Michelle Malkin” I think the jurors reach the same conclusion.

  57. People on the same side fighting amongst themselves is a recipe for disaster. Every single one who does it is just hurting the cause. Shame on them.

  58. anything on Orly yet? Is it lunch time on the west coast?

  59. Truth,

    Spot on!

  60. During the 9/11 investigation it already came out that there was “chatter” about attacks.
    However, this was SO common with the terrorists always threatening to attack the
    “great satan” as they said that people were not
    taking it seriously enough. Unfortunately,
    this happened on Bush’s watch, and he will
    be remembered as the President in connection
    to 9/11 along with two wars. Those are the facts.

  61. Anything more on Orly yet? I hope she
    calmly presents her info. Go Orly!!!!!

  62. Jacqlyn Smith-ms. helga
    The Constitution the rule of Law, how important that is. I seem to remember that Orly got the last of her documentation thru the day of the Inauguration-a lady that was working for her I think-process server. This is about the time frame when her web-site was attacked, first time second time I don’t remember they did it so often. What does that tell you? Plus the death threats, damaging their vehicles to cause a possible accident.
    Dr. Orly has been working so hard and was never shy in asking for help and she has Keyes assisting too I imagine. I cannot imagine what she is running on pure adrenalin.
    Sometimes ego’s get in the way. Orly knows what she is battling and doing the best she knows how to do against Forces (we don’t even know who they all are) yet. They forget one important thing Orly grew up in communist Russia and knows the beast for what it is, very few in this country have that experience. I think it is what makes her so passionate.

  63. “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and no town or house divided against itself will stand.” Matthew 12:25

  64. Can we get rid of this Communist newspaper and its staff….they all need to be deported along with Jones!! Read the whole story at….

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/thank-you-glenn-beck_b_278839.html

    DISGUSTING to say the least!!
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    Thank you, Glenn Beck. By helping force the resignation of Van Jones, you have done a great service to your country. But in the exact opposite way than what you intended.

    Your vile and vicious smear campaign has helped reverse one of the worst examples of miscasting since John Wayne took on the role of Genghis Khan in The Conqueror.

    Don’t get me wrong: Van Jones was the best person for the job he just gave up. But the job was not the best use of Van Jones.

    Contrary to the media caricature, the real Van Jones is a thoughtful leader who knows how to use words to move people to action. To stick him behind a desk, working out the details of tax credits for green jobs — incredibly important though the job is — was never the best use of his unique and abundant skills.

    This is not an attempt to put a positive spin on an ugly episode. I’ve actually been feeling this way ever since Van told me he was taking this job.

    I remember going to the White House this spring for a briefing of journalists by David Axelrod. Before the meeting, Van and I met for a quick coffee and I was hit with the same overwhelming thought: how much we were going to miss his voice on the outside.

    Now, thanks to Glenn Beck, we’ve got that voice back. No longer tied to his desk with a sock in his mouth, Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country. Student groups and labor groups and small business groups and middle class Americans everywhere who are losing jobs and losing homes and losing hope. He’s free to push with all his might and insight for the vision tens of millions of Americans tirelessly worked for during the presidential campaign — the vision they voted for in November — but which is now in danger of being drowned in the fetid political swamps of Washington.

    If Glenn Beck had any sense at all, he would have done everything in his power to keep Van Jones right where he was.

    But he didn’t. And for this we should all be grateful.

    Full disclosure: Van and I have been good friends for many years. We’ve worked together on a number of projects, I’ve written about his efforts to fight abuses in the criminal justice system, he’s blogged on HuffPost since soon after we launched, and I’ve watched him hold an audience spellbound at a wide range of events — from progressive gatherings to the World Economic Forum.

    And I’ve never failed to be impressed by Van. He is a remarkable man. One of the things I’ve always found so impressive about him — and something completely lost in the partisan mudslinging — is his ability to build coalitions and create unlikely alliances. In pursuit of a clean energy future for America, Van has successfully brought together urban youth with clean-tech entrepreneurs, labor leaders with business leaders, civil rights activists with environmentalists. His skill in this area is exceptional, and much needed in America today.

  65. zachjonesishome

    I’ll be back later. Couple of hours. Putting up pesto for the winter.

    Zach

  66. Did anyone from this blog go to Orly’s hearing?

  67. #

    Michelle // September 8, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith-ms. helga
    The Constitution the rule of Law, how important that is. I seem to remember that Orly got the last of her documentation thru the day of the Inauguration-a lady that was working for her I think-process server. This is about the time frame when her web-site was attacked, first time second time I don’t remember they did it so often. What does that tell you? Plus the death threats, damaging their vehicles to cause a possible accident.
    Dr. Orly has been working so hard and was never shy in asking for help and she has Keyes assisting too I imagine. I cannot imagine what she is running on pure adrenalin.
    Sometimes ego’s get in the way. Orly knows what she is battling and doing the best she knows how to do against Forces (we don’t even know who they all are) yet. They forget one important thing Orly grew up in communist Russia and knows the beast for what it is, very few in this country have that experience. I think it is what makes her so passionate.
    *****************************************

    Michelle….Very well said…..I for one believe Orly is in this for the right reasons….others can criticize but until you walk in her shoes you don’t really know the true story!! STOP THE CRITICIZING AND PULL FOR THE UNDERDOG!!!

  68. Contrary to the media caricature, the real Van Jones is a thoughtful leader who knows how to use words to move people to action.

    Let’s see … how about these words to move people:

    Republicans are Assholes.
    White boys shoot up schools.
    I’m a radical communist.
    Bush knew of 9-11
    Reist cops
    …….

  69. typo … resist cops.

    For some reason my comment is in moderation. The “A” word, maybe?

  70. Contrary to the media caricature, the real Van Jones is a thoughtful leader who knows how to use words to move people to action.

    Let’s see … how about these words to move people:

    Republicans are A$$holes.
    White boys shoot up schools.
    I’m a radical communist.
    Bush knew of 9-11
    Reist cops

    I just copy & paste and changed the A word a bit ….?????

  71. GG @ 3:39: I didn’t watch the clip beyond the part when he started ‘stalking’ after MM…that’s all I needed to see. Just me, but I don’t care for ‘bully’ tactics. I have not followed Jones’ stuff, and probably won’t hereafter.
    Seems several here have him pegged as an informant. Do you concur?

  72. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6146957/China-alarmed-by-US-money-printing.html

    ———————————————————
    so…then what will the cost of a flu shot be?
    and who’ll be able to afford one?

  73. READ & SIGN:
    The Glenn Beck Prime Time Petition

    Do it now if you missed it….it is at

    http://www.americasright.com/

  74. zachjonesishome

    Twitter just said Dr. Orly lost all motions. I don’t know source.

    tesibria: BREAKING: Bad Day for #birthers – CA Hearing concludes; Taitz LOSES all motions. Details 2 follow. #eligibility #tcot #phmn

  75. Zach….pesto for the winter…any secrets to it?

  76. Jacqlyn Smith-I believe Orly put her life on the line for this case. She has been working so hard, her entire life has been put on hold (husband, children, family life) all has been put into this. I saw her requests for help many times, no one person could be an expert at all the aspects of this mess that either occurred by accident or was contrived, plus look at the information she found while working through this debacle. I’m still perplexed about all those multiple social security numbers, way too many for an honest person (Obama and Michelle Obama).
    Court to Phil Berg “you have no standing”. Court to WE THE PEOPLE neither do you. No wonder no one will give up on this, and some now see conspiracies everywhere. I think one of my Republican girl friends (Italian) who was going to vote for Hillary saw it correctly. She thought it was all about Pelosi and her mad quest to be first female Speaker of the House. I think the DNC lost their minds in allowing this far left faction to get so out of control. It makes the whole Democratic party look like a bunch of barbarians. I think Obama will take down the Democratic party with him. I am a registered Democrat and I think they should go, they have no respect for our Constitution or WE THE PEOPLE, the abusive way that they treated the dissenters was the last straw. It’s ok to ask questions, disagree, that is all part of the process. Not Obama jam anything down peoples throats and expect them to like it, especially when it is as idiotic as half the stuff they dreamed up. What are Communists, radicals, Fascists, Chicago thug-criminals doing in our government anyway? Much less running it, or in their case attempting to run it. In my opinion they are there for two reasons: power and money and they can’t handle either. Saying they care about the people is just for show, meaning they are liars always have been.

  77. From facebook…

    Debbie Thompson
    From Plainsradio.com message board:

    Sep 8, 2009 – 12:54PM QuoteReply Re: Orly’s Hearing Delayed for a Short Time

    I now know the hearing began at 11:00 Pacific and is over but no further report yet…should be soon I hope. :)

    1. Service of process… was accepted (as predicted)
    2. Judge ordered Orly and Kreep to work together, over their objections
    3. is the motion to recuse Judge Nakazato, and no report on decision on that yet.

    Those are the 3 issues that were before the court today, so only one left to report on.
    State NM

  78. Michelle….All good questions in your post at 4:15 p.m.

  79. Simple Interest

    Irregardless or what some of the posters think about Atty. Taitz, she is fighting, with her own money, while most of us are just talking (typing). She has the courage to go from court room to court room advocating for the constitution, where most of the posters are not going to do anything but criticize her actions. She is Brave and everyone that is working on these cases are brave Americans. Don’t let your tones go sour and become counterproductive!!! If you want it done differently, keep silent and do it your way. This is still America, at least in this moment!!!

  80. goodtimepolitics

    Dr. Orly is in a tough battle because of the amount of money Obama spends to fight the case. Our tax money at that he is spending!
    The American people are now having to police themselves!

    http://goodtimepolitics.com/2009/09/08/recession-citizens-on-police-patrol/

  81. Disneyland is celebrating this year birthdays. On your birthday you can get in free, however if you are a child you must show a copy of your legal certified birth certificate! No joke! I asked if I can show the one from the hospital the temporary one you get or an immunization record which shows your birthdate. They said no! You must show a leagal birth certificate certified or a Passport. Adults need just show a driver lic. I wonder if an adult doesn’t have a drivers lic if they would have to show a birth certificate or passport? I will have to ask that question the next time I go to Disneyland. I think I will go down to Santa Ana in about a hour to see what is going on.

  82. Patriot Dreamer

    val,

    Don’t forget this Van Jones favorite (from 2008, I believe):

    “[T]he white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities.”

  83. Jacqlyn Smith-Thank you for the update. What people do not realize is our court system works very slowly-it seems like agony. I had to go to Palm Beach on a jury trial, we were briefed about the case and it was a terrible case. In brief a lady when in to have her varicose veins stripped and ended up losing her leg. How could you not look at this woman and not be sympathetic? but then there was the doctor’s side too. Wonderful judge, very calm-professional and polite. We potential jury members interviewed, I told the truth. I would not trust either side equally-defense/prosecution. I was out, along with a nice guy that I met there who he had been a phlebotomist and he was tossed for saying “I know doctors make mistakes.” Well that’s true too. Two weeks later at work my girlfriend said. You are not going to believe this but the doctor who was being sued died. I’m like OMG. One sure does not know how things will work out. The judge did a lot of work, all the attorneys-just another life lesson. All any of us can do is the best we can. Orly’s case is about discovery, many many other cases, other lawyers in the works. Public opinion Obama keeps going down and down.

  84. Judge Carter received his orders “Dump The Case” or else. I expect he doesn’t want to contend with the or else. This is clearly up to the people to take the streets on this matter. All the judges have their orders and it’ll be hard to find one that will disobey. The refusal of the men and women in uniform is another avenue that might force their hands.

  85. Weren’t we supposed to have a hearing on expedited discovery today?

  86. Zach,
    I have a TON of basil. Give me some good ideas about what I can do with it. How can one store pesto longterm?

  87. I know the stakes for everyone is very high. The economy is badly plunging with forecasts of greater doom. Gold is predicted to continue its climb well into 2011. The dollar will continue its fall almost in direct proportion to gold. The Chinese are defending their economy by backing it with gold because of the massive borrowing to the US.

    This is all bad news, but the in house fighting I’m now seeing has to be quelled. If it doesn’t it plays right into the hands of this administration.
    This is

  88. zachjonesishome

    We make it, put in ice cube trays and freeze it – bag it. Some people add cheese later. We don’t and it’s great. When you eat it in winter – mix it with pasta, add some black olives, fresh cherry tomatoes etc. I really have to get started taking off the leaves.

    Later Zach

  89. goodtimepolitics, He was better off with the private lawyers…so I am happy he has to take the “public defender” option.

  90. maddie.
    Larry Sinclair was pretty benevolent in his wording in the context
    of what he has been through. He discussed this with me earlier.

  91. If ever there were a case where the judge has to go by the book, it’s this one. He has to go cautiously so as to not leave any way to be overturned later. Slow and methodical will win the case. There won’t be any cutting corners.

  92. The motion to recuse the magistrate was denied because it was not necessary

  93. #

    amy1 // September 8, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    The motion to recuse the magistrate was denied because it was not necessary
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Amy….what does this mean and what is your source???

  94. The next motion related to the case is in Oct. That is to address the motion filed by the D.O.J. to dismiss the case

  95. What’s up with orly’s case? I’m rushing through and see different comments. Is she in or out?

  96. Jacylin, politijabs Brian posted it into the TBN chatroom

  97. Reports from Gary are starting…He is about 25th in line out of approximately 300 people waiting to get into the courtroom. Almost all spectators are anti-Obama.

    Orly Taitz arrived just a few moments ago and the throng applauded.

    Lucas Smith is also present. Smith has claimed the Obama birth certificate he has shown on the Internet as real. That remains to be seen. However it is interesting he has joined the proceedings.

    Steve

    8.39 am pst 9/8/09
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    When court is in session cell phones and camera’s will be banned so we will experience a news blackout.

    This hearing may last from 30 minutes to a couple of hours. Taitz apparently wishes to include Lucas Smith so that an investigation of his proffered document can be be forensically examined and by which means he came by it.

    Justice Carter is expected to throw out the last minute attempt Motion to Dismiss submitted by Obama’s counsel late in the afternoon this past Friday. Taitz is also hoping for court approval to depose Sec State Clinton and Sec Defense Gates. Justice Carter may also rule for discovery. This is what we are hoping for, because once discovery is ordered the case is over. Obama would then have to unseal his records and produce.

    Steve

    9.11 am pst 9/8/09

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Gary also mentioned there was no visible media turnout for this hearing as in no SatCam Uplink Trucks. The LA Fox Channel was expected to report on this hearing. Perhaps they are awaiting a “courthouse steps” exit interview from the pertinent parties.

    Back to you Gary…..

    Steve

    9.26 am pst 9/8/09

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Justice Carter noting the packed courtroom and overflow crowd waiting in the hallways has ordered a change to a larger courtroom and has taken a 2 hour recess to accommodate the transfer of officers of the court and spectators.

    Steve

    10.02 am pst 9/8/09

    In the meantime read some articles watch our “Burning Down The House” video (rate it I’m curious:)
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As far as crowd demographics the estimated age range is 18 to 80

    70% Men
    30% Women

    age 60+ seems to be the majority. About the same mix as an August Town Hall crowd.

    Orly Taitz appeared relaxed– calm cool and collected.

    More as I receive it………….

    Steve
    Keyes v Obama Here’s the Latest as of 12.30pm pst
    Justice Carter recessed the court at 12.30 pst 9/8/09

    His rulings

    10/5/09 Defense Motion to Dismiss to be heard. Carter indicted only a very strong compelling reason would move him to dismiss at this point. He will review the defense’s 9/4/09 MTD. He wants to hear the case on it’s merits. Discovery to be ordered 10/5/09 if MTD is thrown out

    1/11/10 Pre Trial Set- procedural for other motions, depositions, scheduling, etc

    1/26/10 Trial Date Set- Earliest available date for Justice Carter.

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  98. If the Judge allows DOJ request for dismissal, it will be over that day. If he does NOT allow dismissal, the schedule has already been set for Nov summary of motions

  99. I think Llyod Marcus needs to challenge Van Jones to a debate. According to Van we of the caucasian community stay up nights trying to figure out ways to terrorize our fellow Americans a/k/a the black community. We force them to kill one another at an alarming rate , gang bangers etc. gansta rap held up as role models- drug dealers allowed free reign in the communities (don’t snitch). The list could go on and on. Van, Obama instead of stealing tax dollars by way of these folks, why don’t you try to help them? Just words ain’t gonna cut it in these communities. You two could start by being examples, honesty might be worth a whirl.
    Obama you know you are not eligible and lied all the way through it, if you were honest you would have run as the Muslim communist you really are. No had to lie-Christian Democrat and all your other lies too numerous to mention. Van if you’re a Communist just be proud enough to say so. In this country is community organizer just a buzz word for communist?

  100. WOW! TY. This is going to be a long wait

  101. Sorry: maybe a dumb/OT question: I thought I read somewhere of some ‘tampering’, if you will, with Veterans Day…is there more than rumor to any such thing? I hope there’s nothing to it.
    ———————————————————
    Haven’t been able to keep up with the speed of things around here lately…a new thread goes up, and before long there are hundreds of comments. ‘Guess that’s a good problem to have.

  102. Go to WND….

    Trial set for Obama’s birth certificate dispute
    Arguments planned Jan. 11 for challenge to eligibility

  103. WND has a somewhat more positive report on the Taitz court appearance today. Set a date for trial on eleigibility in Jan.

  104. CJ, Thats ONLY if the judge does not dismiss the case in Oct

  105. Zach – thanks for pesto tip

    Magna C. – here’s a link to Zach’s descried method.

  106. This sounds like great news (in spite of obots attempt to twist it). The judge intends to hear it on the merits, and he is being super careful- a fantastic combination! His comments re dismissal are the best.

  107. Amy….Hopefully there will be NO dismissal….and things proceed….as Michelle said earlier….the judicial system is in slow motion…..Judge Carter will examine the document the defendants sent for dismissal and hopefully he will see through all of the BS as did CNN and Teo Bear!!!

  108. zachjonesishome: So glad you quoted a tcot twitter. At least I know someone else will be watching tcot twitter when I can’t. They get obots too…but, there are a lot of good posts. Thank you. Thank you.

    For others, you can check the tcot twitter feed here (it’s the one that is usually moving along part way down the middle of the page–if it’s not on, the box will be blank…just check back a little later):

    http://www.tcotreport.com/

  109. For anyone not having been in court. In Palm Beach County Court House, they have a conveyor belt. No cell phones, they also check for weapons. I took the train in and walked from station to court house one mile approx. I tend to get lost going around the block and I did not want to be late for court. Another interesting thing. Palm Beach County had tons of canine patrols, so you feel very secure there. I think they are concerned for every one’s safety. Court does move very slow compared with industry and folks are correct- The judge needs to be very precise and by the book, this is a case with international repercussions, like the whole world doesn’t know about this. I wonder if it is hurting our country economically anyway. If you were a leader of a foreign nation would you sign anything with Obama, since you don’t know when America is going to do right by their Constitution and you know you are not dealing with an honest person.

  110. HEY MIKE PAPANNITO……………………………..
    I LISTENED TO YOUR MORONIC REASONING REGARDING ALL THE HIGH PAYING JOBS THAT YOU RAVE ABOUT! THERE IS ONE LITTLE PROBLEM…..A$$HOLE, YOU NEED TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE GOOD PAYING JOBS. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK CREATE THE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES?YOUR FOAMING AT THE MOUTH INSANITY IS PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD UNION BULLSH## THAT OVER THE YEARS HAS MADE THE MANUFACTURERS IN THIS COUNTRY NO LONGER ABLE TO COMPETE IN THE WORLD MARKETPLACE. THE NITWIT THAT THE USURPER FRIEND OF YOURS HAS CHOSEN TO BE THE MANUFACTURING CZAR WOULDN’T KNOW WHERE TO EVEN START TO REPAIR THE MANUFACTURING BASE. OVER THE MANY YEARS OF MY LIFE I HAVE LISTENED A LOT OF JACKASSES LIKE YOU RAVE, AND RANT. NONE…….I REPEAT …..NONE HAVE EVER DONE ANYTHING EXCEPT DRIVE UP THE COST OF AMERICAN MANUFACTURING. YOU REALLY MADE AN ASS OUT OF YOURSELF ON FOX NEWS WHILE 40,000,000 PEOPLE WATCHED, AND LISTENED. NOW THEY TOO KNOW YOUR MORON MENTALITY .
    . GREAT GOING! IT GIVES ME A VERY SPECIAL DELIGHT WATCHING NITWITS LIKE YOU PEOPLE…..SHOOT YOURSELVES OUT OF THE AIR!

  111. *** New Post ***
    I have posted a longer video of the Tom Salmon announcement
    and some background info.

  112. As a side note, Initially I, too, was skeptical about the conversation that 9/11 was a staged attack. After doing months of research on my own, I’m no longer skeptical.

    Just Me, welcome to the club………many will follow…just 2 weeks researching got me where you are now in your thinking……husband, wasn’t so easy until I showed him the hole in the Pentagon…….doesn’t look like a 757 went through there, he said, and why is the lawn so clean and only one ‘not so damaged’ wing??

  113. I’m watching BEck now….sounds like the left is pushing back hard against him…..we must support him!!!

  114. Thanks Just Me for link on pesto.Thanks Zach…sounds like a great idea the ice cubes.

  115. Discovery to be ordered 10/5/09 if MTD is thrown out
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Translation?? ‘discovery’ to be ordered on October 5, 2009 if Motion to Dismiss is thrown out???

    So, there are things going on there??

  116. JJ……………………………………….
    Have you ever been around an air crash site? When an aircraft hits the ground, or in the case of the Pentagon there is USUALLY very little of the aircraft remaing to see. Now add 400+MPH to the equation. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT, OTHER THAN COMPLETE DISINTEGRATION. YOU ARE OF COURSE ENTITLED TO YOUR BELIEFS. WHY NOT SHOW THE WORLD THE TRUTH BY SUEING BUSH IN OPEN COURT? GO GET EM “TRUTHER”. YOUR RHETORIC SOUNDS LIKE VAN JONES TALKING.
    I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO WHAT HAPPENS TO NAVY AD AIRCRAFT WHEN THEY DITCHED AT 100 MPH IN WATER. I WAS ONE OF THE TEAM ASSIGNED TO GETTING THE OFTEN MANGLED PILOT OUT OF THE PLANE BEFORE IT SANK. OFTEN WE COULD NOT EVEN REACH THE PLANE BEFORE IT SANK WITH THE PILOT, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE WITHIN 50 YARDS OF IT. I PITY YOUR GULLIBILITY. IN MANY WAYS THAT SORT OF THINKING IS SIMILAR TO OUR OBOT FRIENDS WHO OCCASIONALLY SHOW UP ON CW BLOG, AND TRY TO MAKE EVERYONE BELIEVE THAT “UP ” IS “DOWN”, AND BLACK IS WHITE. I HAVE BEEN ON EARTH 77 YEARS, AND I TOOK THE TIME IN SCHOOL TO LEARN WHICH IS WHICH.

  117. Are we to understand that Orly’s case is
    on-going to Oct. and beyond if not dismissed
    in Oct? Is this correct?
    I am hopeful. Is this right??
    Please translate into non-legal language.
    Thanks.

  118. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW,

    My comment above on this post, is about the video in this post…sorry for not being so clear…

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