Pastor James Manning, Columbia University treason, Obama treason, Manning claims Obama did not attend, Alleged Columbia Obama article, 1983, Breaking the war mentality

Pastor James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem, New York City, is charging Columbia University with treason. Pastor Manning alleges that Obama was in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983 when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia. The following document is allegedly an article written by Barack Obama in 1983 and published in the  Sundial . The Citizen Wells blog will be publishing an article soon that will shed light on why Dr. James Manning’s allegations may not be as far fetched as the casual observer may believe. It is believed at the Citizen Wells blog that Obama was probably enrolled and/or affiliated with Columbia University. The question is, what was that connection and did Obama, as Manning alleges, spend much time in Afghanistan.

Here is the text from the article, typed for clarity. Below is a link to a copy of the article. No claims are made here as to the authenticity of the article or as to whether Barack Obama is the author. Commentary about the content will be reserved for the following article.

“BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY

By Barack Obama

Most students at Columbia do not have first hand knowledge of war.  Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds through television, film, and print. 

The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents’ wartime memories, or incorporation into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer or a Coppola.  But the taste of war – the sounds and chill, the dead bodies – are remote and far removed.  We know that wars have occurred, will occur, are occurring, but bringing such experience down into our hearts, and taking continual, tangible steps to prevent war, becomes a difficult task.

Two groups on campus, Arms Race Alternatives (ARA) and Students Against Militarism (SAM), work within these mental limits to foster awareness and practical action necessary to counter the growing threat of war.  Though the emphasis of the two groups differ, they share an aversion to current government policy.  These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.

Most people my age remember well the air-raid drills in school, under the desk with our heads tucked between our legs.  Older people, they remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.  I think these kinds of things left an indelible mark on our souls, so we’re more apt to be concerned,” says Don Kent, assistant director of programs and student activities at Earl Hall Center.  Along with the community Volunteer Service Center, ARA has been Don’s primary concern, coordinating various working groups of faculty, students, and staff.  “Hot issues, particularly El Salvador, were occupying students at the time, consequently, we cosponsored a lot of activities with community organizations like SANE (Students Against Nuclear Energy).”

With the flowering of the nuclear Freeze movement, and particularly the June 12 rally in Central Park, however, student participation has expanded.  One wonders whether this upsurge stems from young people’s penchant for the latest “happenings”, or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust.  ARA maintains a mailing list of 500 persons and Don Kent estimates that approximately half of the active members are students.  Although he feels that continuity is provided by the faculty and staff members, student attendance at ARA sponsored events – in particular a November 11 convocation on the nuclear threat – reveals a deep reservoir of concern.  “I think students on this campus like to think of themselves as sophisticated, and don’t appreciate small vision.  So they tend to come out more for the events; they do not want to just fold leaflets.”

Mark Bigelow, a graduate intern from Union
Theological Seminary who works with Dan to keep ARA running smoothly, agrees.  “It seems that students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration.  We try to talk to that frustration.”  Consequently, the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject.  This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament and world order.

Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls “a party line.”  By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously.  “People don’t like having their intelligence insulted,” says Don. “so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision.”

Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding in their billion dollar erector sets.  When Peter Tosh sings that “everybody’s asking for peace, but nobody’s asking for justice,” one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself.  Mark Bigelow does not think so.  “We do focus primarily on catastrophic weapons. 

Look, we say, here’s the worst part, let’s work on that.  You’re not going to get rid of the military in the near future, so let’s at least work on this.”

Mark Bigelow does feel that the links are there, and points to fruitful work being done by other organizations involved with disarmament.  “The Freeze is one part of a whole disarmament movement. The lowest common denominator, so to speak.  For instance, April 10-16 is Jobs For Peace week, with a bunch of things going on around the city.  Also, the New York City Council may pass a resolution in April calling for greater social as opposed to military spending.  Things like this may dispel the idea that disarmament is a white issue, because how the government spends its revenue affects everyone.”

The very real advantages of concentrating on a single issue is leading the National Freeze movement to challenge individual missile systems, while continuing the broader campaign.  This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial.  “Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than ten minutes.  That can only be a destabilizing factor.  “Additionally, he sees the initiation by the U.S. of the Test Ban Treaty as a powerful first step towards a nuclear free world.

ARA encourages members to join buses to Washington and participate in a March 7-8 rally intended to push through the Freeze resolution which is making its seconds trip through the House.  ARA also will ask United Campuses to Prevent Nuclear War (UCAM), an information and lobbying network based in universities, nationwide, to serve as its advisory board in the near future.  Because of its autonomy from Columbia (which does not fund political organizations) UCAM could conceivably become a more active arm of disarmament campaigns on campus, though the ARA will continue to function solely as a vehicle for information and discussion.

Also operating out of Earl Hall Center, Students Against Militarism was formed in response to the passage of registration laws in 1980.  An entirely student-run organization, SAM casts a wider net than ARA, though for the purposes of effectiveness, they have tried to lock in on one issue at a time.

“At the heart of our organization is an anti-war focus”, says junior Robert Kahn, one of SAM’s fifteen or so active members.  “From there, a lot of issues shoot forth – nukes, racism, the draft, and South Africa.  “We have been better organized when taking one issue at a time, but we are always cognizant of other things going on, and collaborate frequently with other campus organizations like CISPES and REEL-POLITIK.”

At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration.  The law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close.  Yale, Wesleyan, and Swathmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid.  SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.

Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply.  “Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of prosecution, they would not have registered.”  A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures, on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared.  Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulation in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts.  An estimated half-million registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.

Prodding students into participating beyond name signing and attending events is tricky, but SAM members seem undaunted.  “A lot of the problem comes not from people’s ignorance of the facts, but because the news and statistics are lifeless.  That’s why we search for campus issues like the Solomon bill that have direct impact on the student body, and effectively link the campus to broader issues.”  By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the county.  “The time is right to tie together social and military issues, “Robert continues, “and the more strident the Administration becomes, the more aware people are of their real interests.

The belief that moribund institutions, rather than individuals are at the root of the problem, keep SAM’s energies alive.  “A prerequisite for members of an organization like ours is the faith that people are fundamentally good, but you need to show them.  And when you look at the work people are doing across the county, it makes you optimistic.

Perhaps the essential goodness of humanity is an arguable proposition, but by observing the SAM meeting last Thursday night, with its solid turnout and enthusiasm, one might be persuaded that the manifestations of our better instincts can at least match the bad ones.   Regarding Columbia’s possible compliance, one comment in particular hit upon an important point with the Solomon bill, “The thing we need to do is expose how Columbia is talking out of two sides of its mouth.”

Indeed the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, in that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy.  What the members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part.  By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience – that of war.  But then, there are some things we shouldn’t have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/10978031/1983-article-by-Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-in-Sundial-magazine-at-Columbia-University

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41 responses to “Pastor James Manning, Columbia University treason, Obama treason, Manning claims Obama did not attend, Alleged Columbia Obama article, 1983, Breaking the war mentality

  1. his book was ghost written by bill ayers.

    i don’t doubt that he is listed as author of this article, but the proof that this, too, was ghostwritten is that it does not contain the word “I” countless times. barry cannot utter a sentence without the word “I” in it.

  2. Has yacking a enemy to death ever been successful? This is the most boring piece of garbage, while waxing poetic, that says nothing I have ever read.

  3. CW-did you want me to remind you re: Mock Trial Video? one way to release it-is simultaneous by every web-site that does similiar work as yours. That would make some people very very mad.

  4. Personally I don’t think BO went to Columbia.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2122333/posts

  5. kittycat77 @ 2:35 pm
    I think his resume is a bogus as his book, just a series of lies.

  6. @yo:

    Excellent point regarding Ibama.

  7. “At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration.”

    I absolutely believe he wrote this article; I believed he wrote this several months ago, when I first read it. And this in large part convinced me, he did not write anything subsequently attributed to him that made any sense.

  8. This is a re-post:

    *****************

    Wayne Allyn Root was on Bill Cunningham’s radio show tonight.

    Podcast of WAR segment:

    http://tinyurl.com/ydedhwx

    =======================

    From September 5, 2008:

    ———

    “Matt Welch: So tell us what we should know about Barack Obama that we don’t?

    Wayne Allyn Root: I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!”

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll

    ———

    “Welch: Were you the exact same class?

    Root: Class of ’83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don’t get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was.

    Other guy: Did he even show up to the reunion?

    Root: I don’t know! I didn’t know him. I don’t think anybody knew him. But I know that the guy who writes the class notes, who’s kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It’s very strange.”

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll/1

  9. CW can you contact Pixie Patriot for us please. We would like to post the article about “Deal Challenges Obama’s Eligibility” and request permission to do so. Please contact us at We the People blog. This is a huge story that needs to be told. The more people that know about this, the safer he will be. He’ll need support from across the country.

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com

    Thanks

  10. I just saw that Texas Darlin is back up. I have enjoyed many of the articles over there.

  11. “Department of Justice has filed an opposition to transfer Barnett et al v Obama to DC”

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  12. OT – can I copy a picture I have saved on my computer to here? I have a picture for SueK to see… or do I need to send it to her via email? If email is the way to do it then CW would you please see if she is ok with that? Thanks

  13. http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=3711

    Rev. Manning says Obama was at an al Qaeda training camp from 1980-1983 and his Columbia diploma and transcripts were bought.

    http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=3711

    He says that his church and followers are holding a huge rally at the Columbia campus 7 blocks from Atlah church to demand the truth. James Allyn Root former liberatarian VP candidate, offered Obama $1million to show his transcripts, because as president of the ‘83 political science class at Columbia, he nor anyone else, remembers Obama ever going there. Of course Obama ignored the proposal. And Obama says he too graduated ‘83 political science.

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll

    Root said, “I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!”
    The lack of Columbia attachments and documents, falls in to the category of the “unspeakables” along with his obvious ineligibility because he was born and is still a British citizen, thus not a natural born citizen.

    Obama campaigned for his “cousin” Raila Odinga in 2007, he is al Qaeda backed, also by oil billionaire al Bakari and Kadaffi. Odinga threatened genocide if he lost, which he did, and genocide ensued led by Odinga’s Luo thugs (Obama and Odinga are both Luo tribe members), wherein 3,000 Kenyans (mostly Christians) were hacked, raped, burned– murdered, and 300,000 were displaced; 50 women and children were burned alive in a church. Odinga now shares a presidency with Kibaki, a compromise to make the genocide stop. Obama was a sitting US senator at the time he campaigned for Odinga, violating the Logan Act. He knew Odinga would incite genocide ahead of time, because Odinga threatened it openly. Kibaki said in the Kenyan press that Obama was “Odinga’s stooge”. Obama recently gave $2.5million to oil rich Kadaffi. Odinga is a marxist who signed a pact to install sharia law in Kenya. Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan met with Kadaffi in Libya; Kadaffi is behind the U.S.Africa (United States of Africa) proxy wars throughout north Africa, meant to unite Africa under the umbrella of radical Islam, for they commit genocide on not only native Africans and Christians, but also non-fundamentalist Muslims. Darfur, Chad, Somalia, Yemen, Kenya etc. are now breeding grounds for radical Islam. Don’t expect Obama to interfere with this.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-ogin

    http://caosblog.com/archives/7071

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obama-islam

    I never hear any media speak of Obama’s dealings with Odinga, which spoke to evil way before the campaign.

    Looks like Obama was trained and sent to destroy America from within, just as Bin Laden said.

  14. Michelle: I think his resume is a bogus as his book, just a series of lies.

    Oh, yes, I do agree, his book is a fairytale. I haven’t read it, but just some excerpts. And feel it was placed out there to keep people from finding out truth about him. If they go by his book trying to search out his life, then they won’t get anywhere.

  15. You know Ayers had to have written that essay because those air raid drills were not used when Obama was a child, he was ostensibly born in 1961. They were a thing of the 50’s and maybe early 60’s, Obama was an infant or toddler by the time they ended.

    What horse poo!!!

    http://www.irememberjfk.com/mt/2008/02/air_raid_drills.php

    “By the time I started first grade in 1965, the air-raid drills were long gone.”

  16. hi CW,

    It’s OK to give scarolina my e-mail addy.

    Thanks!

  17. Rev. Manning says Obama was at an al Qaeda training camp from 1980-1983 and his Columbia diploma and transcripts were bought.

    http://www.atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=3711

    He says that his church and followers are holding a huge rally at the Columbia campus 7 blocks from Atlah church to demand the truth. James Allyn Root former liberatarian VP candidate, offered Obama $1million to show his transcripts, because as president of the ‘83 political science class at Columbia, he nor anyone else, remembers Obama ever going there. Of course Obama ignored the proposal. And Obama says he too graduated ‘83 political science.
    http://www.reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll
    Root said, “I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!”
    The lack of Columbia attachments and documents, falls in to the category of the “unspeakables” along with his obvious ineligibility because he was born and is still a British citizen, thus not a natural born citizen.

    Obama campaigned for his “cousin” Raila Odinga in 2007, he is al Qaeda backed, also by oil billionaire al Bakari and Kadaffi. Odinga threatened genocide if he lost, which he did, and genocide ensued led by Odinga’s Luo thugs (Obama and Odinga are both Luo tribe members), wherein 3,000 Kenyans (mostly Christians) were hacked, raped, burned– murdered, and 300,000 were displaced; 50 women and children were burned alive in a church. Odinga now shares a presidency with Kibaki, a compromise to make the genocide stop. Obama was a sitting US senator at the time he campaigned for Odinga, violating the Logan Act. He knew Odinga would incite genocide ahead of time, because Odinga threatened it openly. Kibaki said in the Kenyan press that Obama was “Odinga’s stooge”. Obama recently gave $2.5million to oil rich Kadaffi. Odinga is a marxist who signed a pact to install sharia law in Kenya. Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan met with Kadaffi in Libya; Kadaffi is behind the U.S.Africa (United States of Africa) proxy wars throughout north Africa, meant to unite Africa under the umbrella of radical Islam, for they commit genocide on not only native Africans and Christians, but also non-fundamentalist Muslims. Darfur, Chad, Somalia, Yemen, Kenya etc. are now breeding grounds for radical Islam. Don’t expect Obama to interfere with this.
    http://www.atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-ogin...
    http://www.caosblog.com/archives/7071
    http://www.atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obama-islam...
    I never hear any media speak of Obama’s dealings with Odinga, which spoke to evil way before the campaign.

    Looks like Obama was trained and sent to destroy America from within, just as Bin Laden said.

    This was from 9.12 project, but it was taken down!

  18. “Department of Justice has filed an opposition to transfer Barnett et al v Obama to DC”

    They are contradicting themselves by putting in an opposition, because they said that it belonged in DC. If Carter is so stupid to listen to these prosecutors who are fradulently and illegally defending the usurper, then he is really corrupt. This case should at least be transferred to DC where even they said that DC has jurisdiction.

  19. US Constitution..Article 1 Section 8 (10) To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations; So we know the Law of Nations is spoke of in the Constitution. So we need to read the Law of Nations…
    Which states … The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, these children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

  20. There you go again, Margie, trying to mislead CW’s readers. I already corrected your misinformation once, with a well reasoned rebuttal. Please, stop pretending you have not read that posted response.

    #

    jbjd // January 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    PLEASE, EVERYONE, BEFORE YOU ADVOCATE ANY PARTICULAR DEFINITION OF NBC, HOWEVER ‘LOGICAL’ THIS DEFINITION SOUNDS TO YOU, READ THIS EXCHANGE THAT APPEARED ON MY BLOG.

    The commenter questioned my motivation and intention for not enveloping wholesale the work of the CC2009. Here, in large part, is my reply.

    I just thought of a specific example that illustrates the results of assigning the task of interpreting a legal document – the U.S. Constitution – to a person lacking the requisite legal training.

    Article I of the Constitution creates the Legislative branch of government. Section 8, which enumerates the specific powers of Congress, includes this provision: “To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;”

    The Ph.D. heading the eligibility committee wrote this on her blog (all mistakes are in original):

    The “Law of Nations” is a body of law that the Founders respected and understood to be a guiding body of law for all nations. Thus, the definition of ‘natural born citizen’ must also be found in that body of law called ‘the law of nations’.

    Then, in constructing the Resolution of the CC2009 on the issue of eligibility, she wrote:

    WHEREAS, the CC2009 finds that until the Supreme Court rules on the natural born citizen eligibility clause, or the Congress amends the Constitution, the acceptable definition of ‘natural born citizen’ is derived from that body of law referred to as the ‘Law of Nations’, referenced in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution; and

    WHEREAS, the reference to the Law of Nations in Article I is a direct recognition that the Founders respected this body of law; and

    WHEREAS, in writing about that body of law, Emmich Vattel defined a natural born citizen[i]:

    To be a natural born citizen means one must be born on the soil of parents who themselves are citizens.

    A legal analysis of the Constitution would not only not yield this result but in fact would conclude persuasively just the opposite. That is, in interpreting the intention of the drafters of a legal text, judges will find that, where the drafters included specific qualifying language in one section of the text; their failure to include this language in another section of the text was intentional. In other words, if the Drafters of the Constitution had intended for us to rely on “the law of nations” to define who is eligible to be POTUS in Article II; they knew how to do that, given their use of those words in Article I to define the power of Congress to regulate crime between and among other countries on the high seas.

    Plus, the Ph.D. provided no basis given for interpreting the phrase “law of nations” as specifically referencing the text assembled by Vattel versus a generally accepted ‘law of nations’ as applied to conflicts on the high seas.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/the-government-we-deserve/#comments

  21. jbjd, the constitution does define NBC
    it says it’s not a statutory citizen

    thus look at statutory citizen definitions via 14th/uSC1401 and use the only possible remaining permutation not there

    really, the only reason to blabla-obfuscate like you do is to try to open up nbc to statutory definitions

    but again, the constitution (and Minor) already say it can’t be one of those

    simply beautiful logic

  22. the only remaining permutation is
    jus soli jus sanguinis both parents =nbc

  23. jbjd… I know what I was taught in school. I surely have no need for you mocking me. I have a constitution right here. The Law of Nations is stated in the Constitution. I did not write the Constitution.

  24. Don in California

    speedy // January 6, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    “Department of Justice has filed an opposition to transfer Barnett et al v Obama to DC”

    They are contradicting themselves by putting in an opposition, because they said that it belonged in DC. If Carter is so stupid to listen to these prosecutors who are fradulently and illegally defending the usurper, then he is really corrupt. This case should at least be transferred to DC where even they said that DC has jurisdiction
    —————————–
    Carters new law clerk, from the law firm representing obama, will see to it that the case goes nowhere.

  25. It occurs to me that Obama’s supposedly sealed records at Columbia are not sealed at all. They are simply nonexistent, because he was never there.

  26. Linda from NY

    Someone is going through a great deal of effort to “legitimize” this guy.

    Every time some researcher questions what he has published about himself, one of these “bogus” papers surfaces in an attempt to give credence to his “personal story,” that is, the one that Ayers penned. However, what they did not figure in their mass deception is that most people think for themselves and can recall events/people from their college years when their minds were opened to new ideas and the world beyond. They may not have been active participants in protests against the alleged government oppression, but they knew those who were involved in all kinds of “progressive” activities.

    Wherever pp was between 1980 and 1983, he was not at Columbia as those in-the-know have testified. If he was not at Columbia, he could not have written the paper referenced above. However, it could have been written by someone who WAS at Columbia at the time, but I seriously doubt it.

    Pardon me, but anything with his alleged name on it is suspect in my book.

    I agree with jbjd…this paper was probably written two months ago when she read it.

    I cannot wait until Rev. Manning provides his “proof” of where pp was during those years.

    Thanks to all of you for “connecting the dots!” You are all so sharp and discerning! What an intelligent group you are!

    Peace…Linda

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  30. Anyone who thinks this is an authenticate article or opinion published in the Sundial newspaper by 0 isn’t reading the post carefully. What senior in college writes

    “These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.”

    or this

    “One wonders whether this upsurge stems from young people’s penchant for the latest “happenings”, or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust.”

    or even this

    “Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding in their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that “everybody’s asking for peace, but nobody’s asking for justice,” one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself. Mark Bigelow does not think so. ”

    To ask me, a student who went back to school to finish her undergrad degree at 31 years of age, who attended one of the sister colleges to believe that my younger sisters wrote anything with that kind of maturity is absolutely laughable!

    No way! Nothing anyone says to persuade me otherwise will fall on deaf ears. Ain’t buying it!!!

  31. This is a great line in the sand for the Obot Nation.

    All they have to do is find someone who can prove they went to Columbia U. with Barry and then smear Pastor Manning with the evidence. I know they wouldn’t hesitate for a moment to do this.

    But it is all quiet on the Obot Nation’s front because they can’t find anyone who went to Colunbia U. with Barry.

  32. “The Law of Nations is stated in the Constitution.”

    I repeat, on what basis do you assume the use of the phrase “law of nations” in Article I section 8, refers to the name of the text compiled by Vattel? On what basis do you assume the use of the phrase in Article I section 8 IMPLIES its use in Article II section 1?

    The use of the phrase in Article I section 8 in the clause specifically dealing with Congress’ power to regulate activities among countries on the high seas, each of which country has its own laws, makes sense, in that it sets up a hierarchy of sorts to figure out which law to use in territorial conflicts.

    But assuming the use of a phrase in one part of this legal document necessarily means, the Drafters of this legal document intended for us to INFER its use in another, runs contrary to basic tenets of statutory construction.

    And all the tantrums and name-calling in the world will not render your preferred definition the LEGAL standard.

  33. jbjd ….I know what I was taught in school. So go cry elsewhere.

  34. Hey, LfNY!

    You write, “I agree with jbjd…this paper was probably written two months ago when she read it.” What I meant was this.

    I had actually read this magazine article almost a year ago. And it is grammatically challenged meaningless garbage. Certainly, we have witnessed that his current speeches (read off of teleprompters or scripts) do not match his off-the-cuff oratory. So, given this clear contrast between the words he says and what he reads, I ‘knew,’ he wrote this magazine article. And given the style and substance of the later books credited to him, I ‘knew’ he did not write these. (Plus, the words and phrases ‘he’ uses in those later books sound just like Bill Ayers, who I believe wrote those books.)

  35. Bill Ayers attended Banks Street College….4 blocks from Columbia during the years Obama was supposedly at Columbia….

    hmmmmmmmm

  36. d2i // January 6, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Anyone who thinks this is an authenticate article or opinion published in the Sundial newspaper by 0 isn’t reading the post carefully.

    I read the complete article, carefully. That’s how I formed the opinions, BO wrote it and, therefore, it was tripe. Here, I will briefly de-construct the passage I previously posted as a typical example of BO’s garbage. My criticisms are in parentheses and capital letters.

    “At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration.” (“At this time” AND “the current” IS REDUNDANT) (THE PHRASE “current major issue” LACKS CONTEXT) (THE PHRASE “current major issue” DOES NOT AGREE WITH “is the Solomon Bill…”) (“legislation…to obtain compliance to registration” HAS NO MEANING).

    Several noted columnists have similarly de-constructed this particular sample of BO’s handiwork. And they accomplished their task in much greater detail than I was able to produce in my brief comment.

  37. Speaking of Vattle, lets review the federalist papers on this issue of constructing the U.S. Constitution.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #1….Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    John jay federalist paper #2,….. uses “Citizens” 5 times and never used “Subjects” when referring to the people of the United States.

    John jay federalist paper #3 quote:…… “It is of high importance to the peace of America that she observe the [laws of nations] towards all these powers”, Never referred to the English common law.

    John jay federalist paper #3 quote: ……. “Because, under the national government, treaties and articles of reaties, as well as the [laws of nations], will always be expounded in one sense and executed in the same manner.” Never referred to the English common law.

    John jay federalist paper #3 quote: ….. “So far, therefore, as either designed or accidental violations of treaties and the [laws of nations] afford JUST causes of war, they are less to be apprehended under one general government than under several lesser ones, and in that respect the former most favors the SAFETY of the people. Never referred to the English common law.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #7…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 7 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #8…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #10:….. Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 12 times, and never referred to them as “Subjects” .

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #12…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #13…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #14:
    …..Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 5 times, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #15…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #16…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #17…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #20…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #21…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #22…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #22 ..interesting quote about the prevalent pitfalls of royal monarchs and their “Subject”, what he didn’t want in the U.S., his example:…………“Evils of this description ought not to be regarded as imaginary. One of the weak sides of republics, among their numerous advantages, is that they afford too easy an inlet to foreign corruption. An hereditary monarch, though often disposed to sacrifice his subjects to his ambition, has so great a personal interest in the government and in the external glory of the nation, that it is not easy for a foreign power to give him an equivalent for what he would sacrifice by treachery to the state. The world has accordingly been witness to few examples of this species of royal prostitution, though there have been abundant specimens of every other kind.”

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #23…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #23 ..interesting quote for the Preservation of the Union……. “we must extend the laws of the federal government to the individual citizens of America; we must discard the fallacious scheme of quotas and requisitions, as equally impracticable and unjust.” (notice he didn’t say to the individual “subjects” of America)…..

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #24…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #25…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #26…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    A quote from Alexander in 26:……”The citizens of America have too much discernment to be argued into anarchy.”

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #27…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 3 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #28…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #29…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 5 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #30…. Referred to citizens of America 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #35…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 10 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #37:…..Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    James Madison federalist paper #38:…..Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 7 times, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    James Madison federalist paper #39:…..Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 3 times, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    James Madison federalist paper #40:…..Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 6 times, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    James Madison federalist paper #42:…..Referred to Americans as “Citizens/Citizenship” 12 times, and never referred them as “Subjects” .

    James Madison federalist paper #42:…..Quoted “Law of Nations” 4 times. Never referred to the English common law.

    James Madison federalist paper #43:…..Referred to the “Law of Nature” 1 time. Never referred to the English common law.

    James Madison federalist paper #43:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #44:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #44:…..Interesting Quote: 2. “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. ”

    James Madison federalist paper #44:…..Interesting Quote: Here (discussing Currency), James Madison refers to Americans in the States as “Citizens”, but calls those in foreign lands “Subjects”. Clearly James makes a disticnt and clear difference between the U.S. and those in Foreign lands. ………

    James Madison federalist paper #45:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #46:…..Referred to American Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #47:…..A highly interesting read….

    James Madison federalist paper #48:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #51:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #52:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”. (Another interesting read)

    James Madison federalist paper #53:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #53:…..Interesting Quote: law of nations …..“In regulating our own commerce he ought to be not only acquainted with the treaties between the United States and other nations, but also with the commercial policy and laws of other nations. He ought not to be altogether ignorant of the “law of nations”; for that, as far as it is a proper object of municipal legislation, is submitted to the federal government.”…..

    James Madison federalist paper #54:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 3 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #55:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #57:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 7 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”. (this is a Must Read…discussing the considerations of representation and unequal laws in the British code, examples for reason not to adopt the English code…)

    James Madison federalist paper #58:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.
    (Repesentation of “Citizens”…. Funny he didn’t say Represenatation of “Subjects”)

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #60…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #61…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #62:…..Referred to Americans as Citizens/Citizenship 4 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    James Madison federalist paper #62:….If Obama supporters Don’t think the founding fathers were concerned about foreign influence? Read this quote: ………..”I. The qualifications proposed for senators, as distinguished from those of representatives, consist in a more advanced age and a longer period of citizenship. A senator must be thirty years of age at least; as a representative must be twenty-five. And the former must have been a citizen nine years; as seven years are required for the latter. The propriety of these distinctions is explained by the nature of the senatorial trust, which, requiring greater extent of information and tability of character, requires at the same time that the senator should have reached a period of life most likely to supply these advantages; and which, participating immediately in transactions with foreign nations, ought to be exercised by none who are not thoroughly weaned from the prepossessions and habits incident to foreign birth and education. The term of nine years appears to be a prudent mediocrity between a total exclusion of adopted citizens, whose merits and talents may claim a share in the public confidence, and an indiscriminate and hasty admission of them, which might create a channel for foreign influence on the national councils.”

    James Madison federalist paper #63:
    …..Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”. (interesting, he explains why not to use English law for terms in the Senate)…

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #65…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #66…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #67…. Referred to Citizens of America 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.
    John jay federalist paper #64 quote:…… “As to corruption, the case is not supposable. He must either have been very unfortunate in his intercourse with the world, or possess a heart very susceptible of such impressions, who can think it probable that the President and two thirds of the Senate will ever be capable of such unworthy conduct. The idea is too gross and too invidious to be entertained. But in such a case, if it should ever happen, the treaty so obtained from us would, like all other fraudulent contracts, be null and void by the [law of nations].” Never referred to the British common law.
    John Jay federalist paper #64:….. Referred to Americans as “Citizens” 2 times, and never referred to them as “Subjects”

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #68…… Quote on the Presidency:…….”Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?”
    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #68…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #69 quotes: Vide Blackstone’s “Commentaries,” vol i., p. 257.pertaining to the President. (A must read, describes sound reasoning why not to be similar to British law of heredity government)

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #71… Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #72…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #75… Referred to Americans as Citizens 1 time, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #76…(interesting read, this is Hillary Clintons current legal vice against her).

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #78…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 2 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #80…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 20 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #80…. Referred to “Laws of Nation” 2 times, and never referred to English Common Law..

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #80……Interesting Quote:…… “The fifth point will demand little animadversion. The most bigoted idolizers of State authority have not thus far shown a disposition to deny the national judiciary the cognizances of maritime causes. These so generally depend on the laws of nations, and so commonly affect the rights of foreigners, that they fall within the considerations which are relative to the public peace. The most important part of them are, by the present Confederation, submitted to federal jurisdiction.”

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #83…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 3 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #83…. Referred to “Laws of Nation” 2 times, and never referred to English Common Law..

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #84…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 5 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”. In the same paper, he uses 1. Vide Blackstone’s “Commentaries,” vol. 1., p. 136. 2. Vide Blackstone’s “Commentaries,” vol. iv., p. 438.

    Alexander Hamilton federalist paper #85…. Referred to Americans as Citizens 3 times, and never referred them as “Subjects”.

    Terms used throughout the federalist papers: Law of Nations, Laws of Nation, laws according to the SPIRIT of the Constitution, fact and law, law courts, common law, passing bad laws, knowledge of the laws, law and of equity, general principles of law and reason, national laws, matters of law, civil law, law parlance, municipal laws, state laws, laws of the Union, revenue laws, bankruptcy law, trial at law, law jurisdiction, general laws…. (Hello Houston, we appear to be missing English Common Law in all this as usage to form the newly republic of the U.S…)

    However, neither Madison, Hamilton nor Jay ever, mentioned the use of English common law when discusing the forming of the U.S. Constitution..nor did once any of them refer to us, the newly formed republic of America as Subjects..Surely if we used the English common law to form our U.S. Consitution, out of 85 essay establishment of knowledge papers, forming/questioning/utilizing knowledge of law, someone, somewhere would have mentioned at least 1 single word of such, but nothing….. Amazing……..

    Approximate number mentioned of “Citizens of American”…. 208

    Approximate number mentioned of “Subjects of American”……0

    Approximate number mentioned of “Laws of Nations” applied in the U.S.…………8

    Approximate number mentioned of “English Common Law” applied in the U.S…….0

    Thomas Jefferson to J.Cartwright 1824

    It (Our Revolution)….presented us an album on which we were free to write what we pleased. We had no occasion to search into musty records, to hunt up royal parchments, or to investigate the laws and institutions of a semi-barbarous ancestry. We appealed to those [laws of nature]…

  38. Don in California

    James Madison federalist paper #44:…..Interesting Quote: 2. “This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”

    ————————————-
    I would take this to mean that any treaty that violates our Constitution (ie right to keep and bear arms) would be null and void.

  39. ————————————-
    I would take this to mean that any treaty that violates our Constitution (ie right to keep and bear arms) would be null and void.

    That was my take 30 years ago, and hasn’t changed. Constitution can not be circumvented by any ‘treaty’. The rights of a Citizen, under the Constitution, are supreme, and CANNOT be traded, legislated, or treatied away.

  40. Obama didn’t pass English 101.

    Obama uses the passive voice, unaware of its cumbersome effects. His article drags us with him through the past then, with boring reluctance, pulls us along with him as he trudges into his speculative future. He is a grim, lifeless writer with a plodding pace.

    While reading Obama’s article, the reader may have thought, “Help, I’m stuck in the mud or something. Why is it I am still reading this article? I feel like I’m in a slowed down world. The air is thick, my feet won’t move. Get me out of here. I don’t want to go with him. Help!!”

  41. Bam Bam was part of Arms Race Alternatives. After rejecting YAF and Social Dems, Earl Hall set up ARA and hired Obama. SHows how much he valued free speech then and now, and who put him up to it, and what they were up to: UPI June 6, 1992 Sovern took over at Columbia after student protests of 1968 and New York’s fiscal problems in the ’70s resulted in less financial support for the school, a situation made more dire by recent federal government budget cuts. . . But Columbia will be looking for a new president in a period troubled by criticism for destroying records that were being reviewed for improprieties. Universities in general have been under greater scrutiny for how they charge the government for federally sponsored research.

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