Impeach Obama billboard, OshKosh Wisconsin, Highway 41, FOX 11, Businessmen concerned about tax and spend politics, All in favor say aye

All in favor say aye!

 

From Fox 11 in OshKosh, Wisconsin, February 15, 2010.

“OSHKOSH – The Menasha attorney identified by Jones Sign Co. as paying for a controversial billboard along Highway 41 in Oshkosh has responded.
The following is a copy of an e-mail sent to FOX 11 Saturday night by attorney Thomas Wroblewski, regarding a billboard that begins with the phrase “Impeach Obama.”
“This email is intended to confirm the following:

The billboard in Oshkosh that says, in part, ‘Impeach Obama’, does not contain my personal statement and is not my personal billboard. The billboard was purchased by a limited liability company that I represent.”

Read more:

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/politics/attorney-responds-about-impeach-obama-billboard

Thanks to commenter Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco.

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309 responses to “Impeach Obama billboard, OshKosh Wisconsin, Highway 41, FOX 11, Businessmen concerned about tax and spend politics, All in favor say aye

  1. Aye!

  2. Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero - Peter Francisco

    CW

    Thanks great job

  3. I wonder if various of the FOX Talking Mouths didn’t just denigrate as “another birther craziness” without even considering what it might mean???

    If you go to the Mario Apuzzo website and actually read the Initial Appeals Brief of Jan 19, 2010, you’re in for a real eye-opener (as are the DOJ attorneys “defending” Obama using our tax money).

    That’s doubly ironic since these attorneys – and their bosses – took an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign AND domestic but they are now in the position of actually attacking that very document rather than defending it and are trying to get an obviously ineligible man to remain in an office he has never shown himself to be eligible to hold.

    The wonderful Apuzzo Brief is a primer on both Constitutional law, the meaning of it, the Founders’ intent vis-a-vis Article II of the Constitution and a forceful put-down of the lies and misinformation put forth by the Obama Flying Monkeys such as “smrstrauss” and others.

    I’d urge everyone to read the Initial Appeals Brief from Attorney Apuzzo’s website along with the many essays by both Mario Apuzzo AND his Lead Plaintiff, Charles F. Kerchner. While there, it would really help to donate even a small amount to the publicity/education fund presently used only for full-page newspaper ads in the
    Washington Times National Weekly Edition.

    The Brief gives a very good overview of the original action AND it puts the lie to the many false arguments by the Obot Flying Monkeys about why BHO is either (their words) eligible to hold the office he now occupies OR that it (their words) doesn’t matter that he is not eligible.

    Your understanding of the relation of the U. S. Constitution to We The People will be forever
    enlightened.

    Actually, Obama’s whole life seems to be nothing but a work of fiction. The man has never shown himself to be Constitutionally
    eligible to hold the office he now occupies.

    If you’d like to see something from a different point of view, watch the two short videos below which, even though they start slowly and have a bit of fun, contain a wealth of factual data – more than we’ve seen from Obama.

    In fact in the second video a famous senator is quoted speaking about someone that sounds for all the world like “Our Boy” and really strikes a chord.

    Only thing is the senator was the Roman named Cicero speaking in 42 BC – but the message is still very directed and pertinent for all of us:

    Three Little Words

    Merry Christmas OmeriKa!!

  4. Time to contact Oshkosh attorney Thomas Wroblewski with some docs and Truth about STEVE

    C.W. you would be a Great one to contact him.
    Maybe we can get the Truth rolling from Wisconsin
    Tell him about all the s.s. nos used and all the info you have on the Chicago thugs!!
    Maybe he knows some constitutional judges???
    Introduce him to Larry Sinclair,that will wake him up!

    http://www.wnd.com
    http://www.americangrandjury.org
    Tell him about the 16 Grand Jury Inditements
    http://www.riseupforamerica.com List of what a Patriot is Not
    This would be good for a Billboard!

  5. could be a obot plant sign to drum up some base supporters again. you never know what the left hand or right hand are doing

  6. And let us not forget the several around the country asking:

    Where’s the Birth Certificate?

  7. They always way that there is nothing implied that bo has committed an impeachable offense. What about treason. Last I checked treason is impeachable and so is fraud. Bo has committed massive fraud and treason. So, he should be really removed rather than impeached since he is a usurper.

  8. don in california

    Don’t want to burst your bubble, but congress has to impeach. Do you really think our current congress critters would even consider impeachment of “the one”?

  9. don in california

    After all, they won’t even ask for his birth certificate.

    And they sure don’t listen to “we the people” on any subject.

  10. Donincalifornia…………………

    Hi guy.
    Have you wondered, if he wasn’t born, was he assembled,………..or did the Hawaii sun simply hatch him from sombody’s dribble.

  11. What will happen ao all of the Grand Jury Inditements?? How do they go forward????

    http://www.americangrandjury.org

  12. And don’t forget the Miss Me Yet???

  13. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 15, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Donincalifornia…………………

    Hi guy.
    Have you wondered, if he wasn’t born, was he assembled,………..or did the Hawaii sun simply hatch him from sombody’s dribble.
    ———————-
    I vote for the dribble and I won’t say which end the dribble came from.

  14. C. Scott at “The Post & Email”:

    http://tinyurl.com/ykycs6y

    James Monroe
    First Inaugural Address
    Tuesday, March 4, 1817

    “While, then, the constituent body retains its present sound and healthful state everything will be safe. They will choose competent and faithful representatives for every department. It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising the sovereignty. Usurpation is then an easy attainment, and an usurper soon found. The people themselves become the willing instruments of their own debasement and ruin. Let us, then, look to the great cause, and endeavor to preserve it in full force. Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties.”

    http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres20.html

  15. 100 lawmakers do not want BIG BROTHER HEALTH CARE TAKEOVER

    http://WWW.WND.COM

    Read Muslim Mafia the bbbook they do not want you to read !! buy http://www.wnd.com

    C.W.
    Have you talked to Mark Levin??? His show is Great!
    Speaks at the Regan Library March 5th

  16. Donincalifornia……………………………………
    Mother nature is giving us another “snow job.”
    Well bud, we have heard the splash of TWO more LIBS who have read the writing on the bulkhead, and are terror stricken, so they too decided to follow the other 6 who have already jumped overboard.Kennedy and Bayh have both taken the cowards way out. Would you have wanted either of them in your platoon while engaging the enemy?

  17. Truth Now @9:59

    Richard L posted the headline from WWD about the Lawmaker’s Declaration on a prior thread. Bringing it over from prior thread.

    ////////

    JustMe // February 15, 2010 at 8:09 am

    RichardL // February 14, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Just catching up on yesterday’s news. I was so excited to see the topic/link you provided on the 100 lawmakers declaration about the healthcare. Until I read over the so called declaration’s bullet points. These points they lay out are completely worthless against the control of the behemoth bill.

    Knowing BOTH parties are complicit & tasked in getting a healthcare reform bill of any kind passed, I can’t help but wonder if this is a bit of grandstanding by these particular lawmakers. It seems like nothing more than really slick propaganda – just look at the title of it. That was the dead giveaway to me.

    And, more importantly WHY do we need THIS declaration? Aren’t we already guaranteed these rights under another declaration that was written years ago? This one *really* stinks to me! These people never quit trying to bait us.

    Consider this, if they actually laid out the specifics of this declaration instead of the vaguarities they chose, they would HAVE to reveal to the public what they’ve all been penning up there on The Hill.

    VOTE ‘EM ALL OUT!

  18. Truth now……………………………………….

    It would seem to me that the attorney who paid for the billboard space already knows ALL of the questions,and answers surrounding Soetoro. Otherwise I don’t believe that he would have risked running the political gammit of his Bar Association.

  19. Truth now……………………………………….

    It seems to me that if it is SEEN as”grandstanding” it would be better seen as INSANITY. MMMSSS. IMPORTANT, and DIRTY HARRY are well known for their UNBALANCED RHETORIC.

  20. Truth now……………………………
    Perhaps they both are even a little more than casual aquaintances,….. maybe they are RELATIVES. That would explain the same BLANK look on each of their faces……………..

  21. Donincalifornia……………………………..

    I have just one more question. Do you think that if he was hatched by the sun on the side of a rock would he be an NBC, as such.
    My guess is that he probably would “literally” be an NBC. Whatsayyou!

  22. At 1:05 in this clip, Glenn Beck says he has questions about 9/11.

    Hypocrite.

  23. Debra Medina’s Facebook page disappears from the face of the earth.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/125554

  24. AYE! AYE! AYE!

    Might be interested in the below clip!

    I’d reaaly like me to get 70 virgins real soon!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

    Probably won’t lst long!

  25. correction

    I’d really like him to get 70 virgins real soon!

    HAHAHA That totally typed wrong!!! HAHA

  26. Are there still 70 available?

  27. I only listed Beck as saying he had questions about 9/11 at 1:05 in the film I posted above. You might want to watch the whole short segment: looks like Mr. Beck had A LOT of questions as the clip plays out.

    Yet, he thrashes Debra Medina on a live radio broadcast for being a 9/11 truther.

    I wonder who got to Beck and his family? He sure shut up quick, didn’t he!

  28. oldsalt78

    I sure hope so! I want Steve to get his due! I’d really like to shove the Quran down is freaking throat! Notice how he pronounces everthing.

  29. wow!!!! Did i ever get caught up in the Beck hype. And I am very cautious about who i like or support. He turned out to be a back door puppet. A puppet on a doggy leash that can only say enough to skate around the truth. He’s really going after truthers big time, Alex jones really exposes him big time.

  30. http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/alex/0215103.mp3

    This is one of the links previously posted by JustMe. Jones breaks down for his audience how Beck plays the left against the right to perpetrate false flag operations by the elite that involve an assassination attempt on Obama.

    Please listen.

    Please listen.

  31. Kidmon………………………………………………

    It has long been my belief that Soetoro is actually cut from the SAME bolt of cloth as were the NINE-ELEVEN MURDURERS,and in complete knowledge of this there was enough SLIME in this country who didn’t even give a damn, and elected him to the highest office in the land. In my personal view eveerybody who voted for him committed treason by PROXY.

  32. TO:
    Kidmon // February 15, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    correction

    I’d really like him to get 70 virgins real soon!

    HAHAHA That totally typed wrong!!! HAHA

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\ /////////////

    Wil that be Male Virgins, Transexuals or Bisexuals.

    ONLY if this OBAMORON would speak of America and Christians like he speaks of the Jihadis. He usually quotes the Koran BUT never heard him quote The Bible.

  33. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 15, 2010 at 10:33 pm
    I have just one more question. Do you think that if he was hatched by the sun on the side of a rock would he be an NBC, as such.
    My guess is that he probably would “literally” be an NBC. Whatsayyou!
    ———————————
    It would still depend on his parents citizenship.
    Was the thing that laid the egg an American citizen and was the thang that ferterlized the egg an American citizen??? I guess we will never know. Someone with no background can’t be proven wrong. LOL

  34. Washington DC’s FLAWMAKERS.

    BTW HAPPY GEORGE WASHINGTON”S BIRTHDAY he loses his day being the father of the nation and yet MLK get a day all to himself?
    HOW MORONIC HAVE WE BECOME?

  35. The South,

    MEDINA’S A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH, and they know it. GO MEDINA!!!!!

    She doesn’t have the protection of the BIG guys. Remember Joe The Plumber? Same thing happened to him.

    THIS RACE will change the course of ALL of our lives as we know them to be now. And this should be proof enough!

    I believe tomorrow is early voting – GET YOUR BUTTS OUT OF BED AND VOTE!

  36. if beck calls our gov insane,marxist,radicals,out of touch, non constitution, liars,cheaters, Then 9/11 truthers who see the same gov trying to cover this up are somehow wack jobs. huh? He is falling fast,turne dhim off this am for good.

  37. Hooray for ARIZONA seems like the good news keep coming. They move to fix the EROSION of The People’s right to bear arms.

    http://www.personalliberty.com/news/victory-looms-in-arizona-for-gun-rights-advocates-19601368/

  38. Yes, Alex Jones has been exposing Beck for a long time, but some people just can’t let themselves see the truth, even when it’s poking them on the forehead with a BIG fat index finger.

    Medina is completely wiped off Facebook (no search results at all for over 2 hours).

    Looks like the elites (Bilderberg’s and Perry) pulled some strings and got it done.

    We’ll see if her page pops back up, but I’m not holding my breath just yet.

    Medina and Texas voters are a threat to the NWO, and trust me, these ruthless dictators will stop short of nothing to silence opposition and carry on their agenda of forming a North American Union.

    Traitors!

  39. Don………………..

    There would still need to be an INCUBATION period by the SUN. ISN’T that a NATURAL entity? Really, I am sort of bending the NBC thing a little for a humorous thought. It would seem though that this in, and of itself would have to be a part of ” IT’S” status per se.

  40. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 15, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    ——————–
    Wouldn’t they have to change Natural Born Citizen to Natural Born Creature?

  41. FAA and NORAD Changed Records to Accord with Cheney Lies – 9/11 truth continues to emerge

    “A senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, has written a book exposing the degree to which our response to 9/11 was disorganized and outdated – geared to respond to an attack from Russia rather than from terrorists. Most significantly, Farmer reveals that FAA and NORAD ALTERED THEIR CHRONOLOGIES OF THE DAY [9/11] ONLY AFTER A BRIEFING AT THE WHITE HOUSE.”

    “President George W. Bush and other officials were mostly irrelevant during the hijackings; instead, it was the ground-level commanders who made operational decisions in an ad hoc fashion.”

    …”F.A.A. and Norad records…provide irrefragable evidence that a day after a Sept. 17 White House briefing, both agencies suddenly altered their chronologies to produce a coherent timeline and story that “fit together nicely with the account provided publicly by Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz and Vice President Cheney.”

    snipped from:
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl2/cheney-wolfowitz-lies.html

  42. The next aircraft to fly into a US skycraper will probably be flown by Soetoro himself,after he is removed from office.

  43. oldsalt78

    I will never believe that he was actually elected!!!!

    It was stolen – Plain & simple.

  44. The concrete is slowly crumbling! Keep praying it will fall! Dem crumbling strangely connected to global warming. All are a total fabrication & lie!

    Good night!

  45. Kidmon // February 15, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Hi Kidmon,

    Knowing what we do now about his ‘connections’ and the thugs that surround him, I”ll say it again:

    He was installed. Your vote didn’t matter; the electoral college didn’t matter. He was placed in the position.

  46. SueK

    I agree 100%. That’s why we need to win Big – so there is no question! Just like Scott Brown’s win. No way they could steal that. Hopefully the Dems will continue crashing!

    Any news on the Lyme direction?

  47. Justme, How is Medina doing in the polls right now??

    Those videos of the fraud Beck are quiet something. I knew he is bought and paid for by the globalists. This should tell us to be sure and start saving food because they are definitely going to cause a huge depression, and this time it will be worse than the first one.

  48. Donincalifornia………………………………….

    Technicalities,technicalities…….. There are really three genders,male,female and NEUTER. I refer to the latter as “IT.” A sun baked entity, “might just qualify as an IT.

  49. Kidmon // February 15, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Ya, Kidmon, and I’m praying for ‘big’ come November, and for any interim election until then.

    Everyone closed today for the holiday, so I’ll get on it tomorrow; I seem to have the muscle aches and fever, so I’ll work it all from home.

  50. Medina’s Facebook page is back on the air!

    Let’s hope it stays on.

  51. Connie……………………………………….
    Have you tried to buy a can of Libby’s pumpkin lately? Most commercially grown pumpkin WAS grown in California, by many of the WATER AFFECTED farmers. Thank MMMMSSSS.PELOSI,MMMSSS.FEINSTINE, MMMSSS. BOXHEAD,and ALL THE OTHER IMPORTANT “DEITIES” who fancy themselves as GOD, and everyone on Earth MUST either LICK THEIR FEET, or KISS THEIR A$$ES.

  52. Physics Teacher concludes that Buidling 7 was Free Fall and not a Collapse…..as it fell it didn’t meet any resistance which points to implosion and Gov’t Cover-up.

    Very easy to understand explanation

  53. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 15, 2010 at 11:47 pm
    ————————–
    But, is an IT a Natural Born Citizen?

    I’m not sure IT would qualify either!

  54. Maybe once the farmers are allowed to have a “FEW DROPS OF WATER”, maybe we will once again be able to put a little pumpkin pie in our PIE HOLES.

  55. Aye! Only impeachment is for REAL Presidents. Plus, impeachment does not equal LEAVING! He must be REMOVED!

  56. Don & Salt:

    Correct me if I misspeak here, but impeachment only applies to a properly seated president, right? So if he is proven to be there by fraud (and we all know he is that), would not the proper course of action be to lead a platoon of well-armed Marines up to the front door at 1600 Pennsy Ave and REMOVE him, by force if necessary? Sounds simple to me………………

  57. don in california

    Oldsalt, I’m surprised that pelosi didn’t require the farmers to cover the ground while the rain was falling. I guess God outflanked her and let it rain.

  58. don in california

    CA Patriot // February 16, 2010 at 12:21 am
    —————————
    You are correct. Impeachment is only agains legal Presidents. obama should be arrested and marched out in handcuffs.

  59. What I have difficulty understanding is why the farmers of Michigan havn’t jumped all over the produce shortages. Michigan also has some excellent growing ground. It is capable of supporting a variety of crops,and produce. With so many people out of work in Michigan it would seem that during the growing season, there would be a helluva lot of people looking for farm work. If the farmers would get into produce again like they used to be in the 40s,and 50s. I believe that anybody with at least 50 acres could at today’s prices make a pretty good living. The wine makers in upper Michigan have some of the best ground in Michigan. Yet there are thousands of acres sitting idle. In both upper,and lower Michigan. I tend to think that farmers of the DEMOCRATIC led state are being taxed to death, and the stupid a$$ed politicians are totally blind to the cause, of their business demise. I do know that real estate taxes are totally out of sight. That by itself would probably bankrupt a property owner. Maybe I have answered my own question.

  60. SUEK………………………………………….
    I am hopeful that the information regarding the LYME bug was useful. I don’t envy anyone having LYME’S disease. By the way it can be treated with DOXYCYCLINE, and another antibiotic together in an alternating regimen. But the DOXY is the key. Biggest hurdle is finding a physician who is willing to conduct all of the testing that will be necessary, to accurately determine the presence of an antigen. Hope you are able to get related info from Johns Hopkins University at Baltimore.

  61. From Newsweek (NewsweAk):

    By David A. Graham
    Feb 12, 2010

    “Know Your Conspiracies

    NEWSWEEK’s guide to today’s trendiest, hippest, and least likely fringe beliefs.

    1. Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

    It’s not clear where he must have been born instead: some say Indonesia; some say Kenya (initial suggestions that Hawaiian natives weren’t citizens when he was born in Honolulu in 1961 were quickly dismissed). The point, so-called birthers say, is that he wasn’t born in the good old US of A, hence isn’t a natural-born citizen and therefore cannot legally be president.
    Proponents: Chief birther and Beverly Hills dentist and attorney Orly Taitz, WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah, Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.), former presidential and Senate candidate Alan Keyes, assorted tea partiers
    .
    Kernel of Truth? It’s fully debunked. Forged Kenyan birth certificates have been exposed, and—despite protestations to the contrary—Obama’s birth certificate has been certified by the state of Hawaii, and images have been shown on national television. And that’s leaving aside plenty of circumstantial proof, like birth announcements in both major Hawaiian papers from August 1961.”

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/233518/

    ====================

    The other listed conspiracies:

    2. Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax.

    3. Goldman Sachs intentionally created the economic crisis.

    4. Democrats’ health plan will create death panels.

    5. Barack Obama is a secret Muslim.

    6. Sarah Palin is not the mother of her 1-year-old son, Trig.

    7. ACORN is part of a liberal conspiracy to steal elections.

    ====================

    From Foxnews:

    Updated February 12, 2010

    “Gubernatorial Candidates Echo Theories of Birthers, 9/11Truthers”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/12/gubernatorial-candidates-echo-theories-birthers-truthers/

    ====================

    This is NOT a coincidence !

    They are ALL working together.

  62. SUEK………………………………….
    I believe that if anyone can help you it would be Johns Hopkins. If it was me I would be in contact with them as well. If you can swing it they might want you to visit their clinic. While I have never visited any of their clinics I am sure that they are as well versed in illnesses like Lyme’s as anyone else is. Perhaps you have a clinic right there in Massachussetts that specialises in infectous diseases. Worth a try. I wish you all the best!

  63. AYE!

    Then arrest him and put him in prison.

  64. If you’re still not convinced Glenn Beck is our enemy, you really need to read this.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-for-dummies.html

  65. !?!!………………………………………..
    To arrest him will require the necessary paperwork to be handed to a REDNECK SHERRIFF, with about 50 redneck deputies. He would probably be under arrest in MINUTES. I talk about such deputies as those from the vicinity of PIKE COUNTY KENTUCKY.

  66. imo, “they” must really be feeling the heat to expose GB and so blatantly risk his credibility. All “their” strongholds are crumbling.

    Personally, I will never believe that on 9/11, 2 aircraft got off their flight plans with no one being the wiser. Someone high up had to have been notified.

    Maybe this is the year for a lot of hidden facts to surface.

  67. don in california

    Good night my friends.
    Got an appointment for a “stress test” tomorrow and need my “beauty sleep”.

    God bless you all.

    Don
    TSGT USAF Retired

  68. http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/feb/15/executive-at-heart-opts-out/

    ‘Executive at heart’ Bayh opts out | POLL
    ‘Dysfunctional’ Congress wears out senator
    By Eric Bradner
    Posted February 15, 2010 at 11:19 p.m.

    Bayh won’t run for re-election.
    ******************************
    Obama’s Bi-Partisan Health Care Summit is a joke.
    Written by TVC Executive Director Andrea Lafferty
    Sunday, 14 February 2010 09:56

    http://www.rightsidenews.com/201002148670/editorial/obamas-bi-partisan-health-care-summit-is-a-joke.html

  69. Old Salt –

    Let’s just get about a million patriots together and go arrest him ourselves, and the rest of his staff, and his cabinet and most of Congress while we’re at it.

    One stop problemsolving.

  70. I agree. Arrest him, a crime was committed.

  71. Oh, and let’s not forget a few of the Supreme Court Justices, as well, plus all the judges who dismissed our right to have an eligible president.

    We’ll take those sheriffs and deputies along, too. They can lead the pack.

  72. The people from around Pike County are considered by a LOT of people to be at the same fighting level of SNAKES, and having the spirit of salt water crocodiles. I am not sure that there are any Secret Service agents who will look forward to going face to face with any of these reptileous sort of people.

  73. God bless you, too, Don in CA.

  74. !?!!……………………………………………………
    You could get a lot of shopping carts, or about a hundred good ole paddy wagons. Then you have to find a big enough jailhouse. Best would be to lock all of them inside their own buildings. And hold court on the steps.

  75. Old Salt —

    Pike County people sound like just the ticket.

    Speedy trials on the steps — better and better.

    Then we could send each one to his or her own little jail cell right from there, after the tar and
    feathers.

  76. Margie -

    Counting you, the motion has been seconded and thirded. I believe it’s a go.

  77. Few people outside of Kentucky know much about the people of PIKE COUNTY. That is because there are damn few outsiders who are allowed to venture into the county to begin with. If you live to emerge from the other side you have made a major accomplishment. Young people BORN there must fight their way to adulthood. These people still live at a level of adversity that very few outsiders even know still exists in the US. They MUST fight from the time they are able to crawl. They fight off rats, snakes, and a host of other critters at a very tender age. These people have rifles in their hands by age 6. They spend the rest of their lives carrying it, and using it for either what it is or a club. By the time a youngster reaches his teen age years if he hasn’t died in the process he can usually handle himself pretty damn good with infighting. Many have already knocked their own fathers on their butts.
    Many of these people are of Celtic hill people extraction. Some are of British hill people extraction. There are a lot of redheads in Pike County. As I said in a fight they WILL win or otherwise hold their own. They will inflict as many hurts as possible upon an enemy. These people are excellent tacticions as well. Just never get them chasing you. They WILL stay right on your a$$ until they have driven you out of the county. Anyone living in Kentucky who knows anything about the people of PIKE County will tell you that I have not exaggerated anything. They are probably the BADDEST ASSES in Ky. If you are a friend of any of these people you have the most reliable friends that you can possibly have……particularly in a fight.

  78. Sounds like the stuff from which America was first hewn.

    Let’s take ALL of them and clean out DC.

    If we don’t get DC cleaned out, I may move there. Sounds like the best place to be if patriotic resistance get more “hands on.”

  79. …. gets

  80. The beginning of a trend??? Hope so!!

    CBS Loses Loving Feeling, Exposes True Meaning Of Obama’s Bipartisanship Call
    Posted on February 10, 2010

    http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2010/02/10/cbs-loses-loving-feeling-exposes-true-meaning-of-obamas-bipartisanship-call/

    “……Much like we saw in the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the media is becoming more independent of the talking points emanating from the Kremlin and Politboro, er, White House and DNC, and willing to expose what is actually going on. Part of this is the bottom line: trust equals money. Second, many in the media are sick to death from being treated as members of Obama’s press team. No matter what the political leanings of those in the media, they do not appreciate being jerked around.

    In the latest show of independence, we can read CBS News’ take on what bipartisan actually means. Hopey changey feeling is gone.”

    Maybe the media is finally getting what the rest of America has been feeling and saying for a year.

  81. On a “truthers” blog I read that there was no aircraft actually flown into the twin towers. It was really an explosion set by George Bush to pull America into a war. Allegedly what appearred to be aircraft flying into the towers was really a movie projection from the ground that was designed to make it appear that this actually happened. These are some really ILL people. They are telling me that I didn’t see an aircraft fly into the trade center, rather I saw a movie. First of all I am not one of the SNOT PICKING MORONS, SMOKING THEIR DRUGS, and have anal sex with their alleged friends, and in possession of a intelligence quotient of 4, which matches the number of words in their vocabulary.
    Rather, I know what I am looking at, and do know up from down. Believe what you wish, and I will KNOW what I KNOW. This way YOU and I are BOTH happy.

  82. oldsalt,you from around pike co KY,lol. I am from around wayne co,WV . I know what ya mean.lol

  83. Oldsalt @ 2:31 am

    “On a “truthers” blog I read that there was no aircraft actually flown into the twin towers. It was really an explosion set by George Bush to pull America into a war. Allegedly what appearred to be aircraft flying into the towers was really a movie projection from the ground that was designed to make it appear that this actually happened. These are some really ILL people. They are telling me that I didn’t see an aircraft fly into the trade center, rather I saw a movie. First of all I am not one of the SNOT PICKING MORONS, SMOKING THEIR DRUGS, and have anal sex with their alleged friends, and in possession of a intelligence quotient of 4, which matches the number of words in their vocabulary.
    Rather, I know what I am looking at, and do know up from down. Believe what you wish, and I will KNOW what I KNOW. This way YOU and I are BOTH happy.”

    ***************

    Oldsalt, I agree. Total INSANITY. When I hear that sort of stuff it makes me question all the things that actually sound logical to me about conspiracies. You’re scratchin’ your chin thinkin’ “Ya, why DID all those witnesses mysteriously die?” and then someone comes along and tells you that planes didn’t really hit the buildings blah blah blah.

  84. What is happening with all the Grand Jury Inditements??? http://www.americangrandjury.org

    List of what a Patriot is NOT
    This would be a Great Billboard !!!
    Congress Needs this list on their wall !!They are Not!
    http://www.newsrealnlog.com Horawitz blog
    http://www.wnd.com breaking news
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com what’s new with Orly??
    http://www.repubx.com
    http://www.riseupforamerica.com What a Patriot is Not
    great info here

  85. David Ray Griffin has written a number of books on the subject of 9/11 after questioning the “official” report. His work is some of the most exhaustive research and all of his books are very well cited. This is one of many videos he appears in available on Youtube. I encourage you to view others.

    I have recently read some interesting research on Wayne Madsen Report website conducted by one of his bloggers. He reported that the “official” 9/11 Commission Report was authored by the man who presently serves as Obama’s foreign policy speech writer, Benjamin Rhodes. THAT’S RIGHT! Let that one sink in a minute. Interestingly, prior to 9/11, he had authored a number of “fiction” books on the Taliban. The Taliban? Let that one sink in for a minute. He also discovered that Rhodes has family ties to a senior staff member of FOX News Corp, and Barbara Boxer. So is it possible the “official” Commission Report is another piece of fiction penned by this man?

    The website of “Pilots for 9/11 Truth” is full of information supporting the impossibilities of the facts as presented to us by the government. They have produced a number of their own evidentiary DVDs, available on their site. Why not spend some time on their discussion forum – the talk amongst the pilots are always very interesting.

    http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

    The other professional site well worth visiting is “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.” Richard Gage, an architect by trade, quit his job and has tirelessly traveled the globe meeting with highly recognized architects and engineers who also don’t buy the “official” government report. At a recent Press Club appearance he announced he now has over 1,000 signatures on a petition demanding that Congress conduct a truly INDEPENDENT investigation.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    (This site has an exhaustive body of research accessible for all to read.)

    Why do these and other folks care about getting to the bottom of this? Because our government passes draconian laws BASED on the events of this tragic day. The events as told to us by the government. Based on a report that has been proven to be a lie. Our foreign and domestic policies are based on the “official” report, which has been proven to be a lie. Daily our freedoms and liberties slip through our fingers. It is even more imperative that we seek the truth and push for a new independent investigation, if not for us for our children and grand children.

  86. Good Morning!

    Sent letter to state legislators in the the following states:

    Arizona, Wyoming, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Alaska (Judiciary Committee), Kentucky, Kansas, N. Dakota, Iowa

    Responses: Arizona (HB 2441 – Feb 26), Louisiana, Oklahoma (HB3013)

    Subject Line:

    Urging passage a legislative bill similar to Arizona HB 2441 – Requiring documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen for Presidential elections.

    Dear Sir or Madam:

    The reason I am writing today is to urge passage a legislative bill similar to Arizona HB 2441, which is currently awaiting a hearing before the Arizona House Judiciary Committee. Given that Article, Section 1 of the Constitution has be severely weakened this past year when not one Secretary of State required proof from any candidate to would establish he or she were a natural born citizen.

    My fear is that if one or two states do not pass legislation requiring those who supervise elections to scrutinize the eligibility of candidates in 2012, we might as well cut Article II, Section 1 from our Constitution. This provision continues to be needed today. It helps to ensure that whoever is chosen to lead our military and county will not have divided loyalties.

    I urge you to read and consider the following article that I wrote recently. Thank you for all of your work. America needs state legislators who will not cede more and more power to Washington D.C.

    Thank you for your time and consideration of this matter.

    Respectfully,

    Zach Jones

  87. Good Morning everyone,
    Please just arrest him and everyone involved!They all knew!!
    God please watch over our country!

    Michael,
    Your right!I’m answering from your statement from other thread!God Bless you sir!
    God Bless you CW for your blog!!

  88. How to keep BHO’s name off the 2012 ballot?
    by making sure people know about his constitutional ineligibility! In the event we can’t remove him from the current term, it is vitally important to keep him from running in 2012!!
    The best way to make sure he does not run again is to ensure his name can’t get on the ballots!Zachjonesishome is right. Here is a summary of what must be done:
    1.educate voters, especially the Independents, that Obama is ineligible (seek help from (Globe?) to broadcast his lack of proof of US birth and his ‘born a British’ status etc.)
    2.help/demand individual states to enact ‘proof of constitutional eligibility for presidential candidates’ legislation.
    3.Make sure Congress passes the ‘proof of citizenship’ bill.
    4.line up at DNC to demand proof of his constitutional eligibility before they can send the ‘certification of nomination’ to the states.
    5.line up at every state’s election office to demand same proof before his name can appear on the ballot.
    6.Have rallies/marches to demand Obama show his constituional eligibility (will the Tea Party and other group leaders agree to do this? If they don’t, is it because they want another 4 years of Obama!?)…..
    That is the overlooked reason why we must broadcast Obama’s ineleigibility issue!

  89. The Tea Party Movement to Take on Agenda 21? – Why not?

    It’s Pelosi’s fault!…the UN’s Wildlands Project is an integral part of the Agenda 21. It’s designed to turn at least half of America back into wilderness where common people won’t be allowed to go.

    The targeted areas, generally UN Biospheres and ‘buffering’ bioreserves, seem to be those rich with above-and-below ground natural resources. The entire Upper Peninsula of Michigan is one such targeted area. (I posted videos of Alex Jones’ coverage of this)

    The eco-environmental army is implementing the Wildlands Project, steadily working to divest the American people of their public and private property rights. (our tax dollars are funding this army!)

    In a nutshell, Agenda 21, which is a 40-chaptered by-product of the 1992 UN Earth Summit, is a blueprint to be followed by ‘progressives’ and their cohorts at all levels of government who are working to redistribute wealth.

    The proof that my congressman, Bart Stupak, has crawled into bed with the socialists who are implementing Agenda 21 lies in his co-sponsorship of Nancy Pelosi’s March 29, 1993 legislation, HJ RES 166. The bill was a copycat of her 1992 H.CON.RES. 353 legislation, which former Representatives Barney Frank, Leon Panetta and 61 others co-sponsored, including Rep. Charles Rangel.

    One only need read HJ RES 166, the Treaties, and Executive Orders to understand how we’ve come to this place in time in America; why our economy is crumbling and why we’re finding it harder and harder to achieve the American Dream of a decent paying job, home ownership, three-square meals on the table and enough jingle in our pockets for a few of the nicer things in life after we’ve paid our household bills and taxes.

    Of the sixty-seven representatives who cosponsored Pelosi’s Agenda 21 legislation in 1993, twenty-four are still in office and, like Stupak, may be seeking reelection.

    Check the list (click on link below & scroll down) to see if your representative is one that co-sponsored Pelosi’s Agenda 21 bill.

    snipped from:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Williams/carole114.htm

  90. Why would I say something like this? For anyone’s information, please investigate and study what Ms. Sarah Palin supports and believes in. For your general information:

    (1) Ms. Sarah Palin supports and STAND UP FOR ALLOWING Amnesty in the USA for Illegal Aliens (without any limit in the numbers of Illegal Aliens) to settle in the USA.

    Thank you Michael; most of us know the facts about Palin and her pro-illegal, pro-amnesty stance.

  91. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    Please go watch the video with Alex!Wow!

    JustMe and South,
    Thank You so much for all you do!God Bless you!!

  92. Anyone here from Michigan?

    An article detailing the Northern Great Lakes Forest Scam – Stupak’s give away to The Nature Conservancy (non-profit funded by the Rockefeller family). All part of Agenda 21.

    article here:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Williams/carole3.htm

  93. GB America,

    And, I thank you! My blessings to you, as well. Your contributions here are priceless.

    I did watch those videos. WOW is right! I was listening to it live yesterday as the story unfolded. I hope everyone here takes the time to view them.

  94. Prelude to war?

    Good Morning, Venice

    I’m wondering now if Hillary’s trip to Saudi was a “formality” so to speak. In other words, she KNEW that China would not acquiesce to her demand for their vote on imposing the sanctions. They would be foolish to have done so. And this trip to Saudi was all “for show.” They already have plans for war. Make sense?

    Thoughts on that theory?

  95. oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Maybe once the farmers are allowed to have a “FEW DROPS OF WATER”, maybe we will once again be able to put a little pumpkin pie in our PIE HOLES.
    ***************
    But ONLY if we understand EVERYONE gets a piece of the pie.

  96. Assissinate American Citizen? Just Obama’s talk on this should be TREASONOUS.

    COMMENT from Video in YouTube:

    VonHelton (3 hours ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam Um, as horrible as this sounds, I need to point out that according to the Koran, once you become a Muslim, you are no longer an American.

    ……Your *ONLY* loyalty is to Allah the Moon God & Mohammad the Pedophile prophet.

  97. oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 2:31 am

    *********************************************

    Said like a true Patriot!!! I agree !

  98. ticktock // February 16, 2010 at 3:02 am

    Oldsalt @ 2:31 am

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    OldSalt and ticktock….. a lot of the stuff they put out there has been debunked time and time again but they still find people to believe it…..I guess because they get their paid scientist to tell it like they want it to happen…..just isn’t so!

  99. Old Salt, I don’t think you have the real picture of Pike County, KY. That might have been how it was in the 70′s but this younger generation is like the rest of today youth, lazy. They want to stay in and play video game. Drugs are everywhere. It is very sad.

  100. !?!! // February 16, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Just the fact that protocol for invasion of protected air space was changed and command/authority given to Rumsfeld in July, 2001, and reverted back to usual protocol standards September 12, 2001 is plenty evidence to see the scheme of things………and if that’s not enough to convince one, view the picture of an extra hand on the Pentagon lawn carrying the injured when the place to be was in his Pentagon office issuing orders to take down those planes. Yes, Rumsfeld was complicit in the murder of those victims.
    ‘Nuff said.

  101. JJ,

    Good Morning,

    re: Alex Jones prediction of the next false flag attack

    He predicts the “O” will be the subject of the false flag event. He said either he’ll be wounded, or will meet with the same tragic outcome as JFK. He said we don’t want either to happen, of course. This would cause rioting and significant unrest in the streets. People would then beg for MORE draconian laws that limit our rights/freedoms.

    He discussed how he arrived at this theory and spent close to an hour dissecting clips of Beck’s chalk board presentations showing how he is helping to lay the groundwork. THAT was a real eye opener. Right there under our noses.

    Time wise, he predicts a year or sooner. The caveat to this is now that Alex has come out publicly the powers that be may decide to take another route. Similar to other things that have been stopped recently with going public about it – Copenhagen as an example. Remember last summer when I posted notes from Lindsey Williams’ “death bed” confession of one of the elites? The elite are NOT happy with O and Lindsey this man told him this was a possibility being tossed around. The recent headlines back this up. Even Rockefeller said that “O” was now an embarrassment.

    The outcome of this possibility would be dire for us he said. They – elite – are threatened by the fact that people are waking up and are on to their schemes. He feels the blame would be placed on the Tea Party movement, and other “birther” or “truther” movements, militias, veterans (think Oath Keepers) etc., proving that the folks are out of control. This would justify and allow them to bring in the police state – resulting in total control over the people. I’m sure I’ve left out several things, but this will give you the gist of it.

    I know that you are already prepared. Hopefully this will allow time for others to prepare. Pray that it doesn’t happen at all.

    So I don’t know how much info you want about the dissecting of Beck’s clips…I know how you love him. …i smile…

  102. I have but one question regarding the World Trade towers. I am trying to figure out why the landing gear, and the remains of two jet engines of a commercial aircraft was mixed in with the debris from the buildings. If no aircraft was flown into the buildings why was a main landing gear,and the remains of two jet engines found mixed in with the rubble of the buildings? Do you suppose that George Bushe’s operatives transported a landing gear unit, and the remains of two crashed gas turbines to the Trade Center grounds, and dumped it all out to make it look like an airliner had actually been flown into the buildings? Knowing lower Manhattan as I do, at the extremely early AM hour it would have been necessary to transport the components the driver of the truck would have experienced a real problem getting the debris onto the site. To transport such a pile of smashed aircraft parts would first have required at least a 25yd, bulk hauler and trailer,and would have needed to have a special permit to even be in the area. The cops watch such activities,closely around the clock. They even very often ticket contractors who have valid reasons to be there, simply because they were not supposed to be there before a certain time of day. So anyone found to be hauling junk from an airliner would have been either ordered out of the area,or the driver arrested. Vehicle weight is a very big issue in Manhattan. The Port authority cops mean what they say. I believe that such debris sort of says that YES there was an airliner flown into each of the twin towers rather than somebody bringing in a truck load of aircraft parts, and dumping it close to the towers. This sort of notion smacks of DRUGGED MINDS, and an IMBECILE intellectual function.These parts were later confirmed as having come from the missing aircraft. The stamped Serial numbers were not destroyed in the crash. They RARELY are. These numbers were later traced back to the aircraft that was crashed into one of the buildings. The TRUTHERS need to tell the forensic crash investigators that they are LIARS, and/or don’t know what they are talking about.

  103. oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 12:43 am

    SUEK………………………………………….
    I am hopeful that the information regarding the LYME bug was useful. I don’t envy anyone having LYME’S disease. By the way it can be treated with DOXYCYCLINE, and another antibiotic together in an alternating regimen. But the DOXY is the key. Biggest hurdle is finding a physician who is willing to conduct all of the testing that will be necessary, to accurately determine the presence of an antigen. Hope you are able to get related info from Johns Hopkins University at Baltimore.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Hi OldSalt, and thank you! Yes, the info is very useful and I’m pursuing that today.

    I will take Lyme over MS any day at all!

    Unfortunately, I react badly to Doxy, but there are other treatments out there; the first step is a diagnosis. There are a few web sites that deal with Lyme, so I’ve registered and asked to locate a doc that’s ‘savvy.’

    This’ll take some legwork, but it will be done. I’m just pretty disgusted that my Neurologist didn’t bother to mention Lyme, and put me in a panic for a year.

  104. Anyone who wants to know the truth about the airliners that were crashed into the buildings should go to the NTSB WEBSITE, and follow the links there which pertain to aviation disasters. This is information that is found by the investigators themselves,and not that published by the NINE ELEVEN Commission. The Commission merely reflects the findings of the forensic investigators, once it has been determined to be proveable reality. While the TRUTHERS probably will still see George Bushe’s fingerprints everywhere, they should really read what the INVESTIGATORS have to say. Perhaps it will provide another angle of insight for them.

  105. Patriot Dreamer

    JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 9:47 am

    I hope we do not see another attack any time soon. But, whether we do or not, we will likely see a double-dip recession or depression within the next 1 year (maybe 2). What’s happening now in Greece will happen here.

  106. Thanks Oldsalt for the warning about Pike Co…I guess we won’t be traveling that far east in discovery of Ky. this summer; that is if the country doesn’t experience that political-economic meltdown before then.

  107. Old Salt….. ticktock and others here who want the other side of the story…..there are several sites that debunk the myths and theories by the ‘truthers’….below is just one that has extensive information……

    Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report
    Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=7

  108. OldSalt,

    there are many theories floating around out there about all that you question. Some are bunk and others are valid questions and “what ifs”. David Ray Griffin’s work speaks for itself.

    I read that an assassination attempt was made on Bush’s life that day and is why he was flying around the U.S. trying to find a safe place. I personally don’t believe Bush’s fingerprints were necessarily all over it. It is believed by many that it was a covert operation with other agencies involved. Remember how the parade route for JFK changed and the Secret Service were “ordered” to stand back? Very similar situation here. This is why it was so odd that he kept reading to the grade school class. He had no idea he needed to skeedaddle. There’s a lot more info surrounding this attempt on Bush that day to read about.

    There is speculation that some of the airplanes were drones masked to look like commercial planes, and there is speculation that they were commercial planes and were outfitted with remote control devices. Again, a real investigation by qualified people would possibly give us this answer.

    I enjoy reading the discussion forum from time to time on the pilots for 9/11 truth website. They have produced a number of videos on the impossibility of some of the claims made by the government.

    There is no doubt in anyone’s mind that all 3 buildings were brought down – implosion.

    I posted back in the late summer, a link to an article showing that folks on the commission itself knew they were being lied to and at one point contemplated taking action on their own.

    I think The South recently posted a link to an article a few threads back listing names/bios similar to the one I posted. Don’t know if you saw it or not.

    The main issue of the folks that have been labeled as “truthers” is we need an independent outside investigation. That’s all they want.

  109. These investigators say NO IMPLOSION….also other debunks here….

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Controlled_demolition

    From Debunk 9/11 Myths
    Controlled demolition
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    See also: Collapse of the World Trade Center – for images, information about the collapse, and the investigations

    Many 9/11 conspiracy theories center on the idea that the World Trade Center collapsed from controlled demolition. The collapse of the World Trade Center was the subject of a multi-year investigation, led by NIST.
    Melting steel? · Empire State Building, 1945 B-25 bomber crash · 1975 World Trade Center fire · Free fall? · Explosions? · Material quickly sent for recycling before being examined? · Weekend power down · Molten metal
    Controlled demolition?
    Claim

    Steven E. Jones and other so-called “Scholars for 9/11 Truth” have purported that the impact of aircraft hitting the World Trade Center and the resulting fires were insufficient to cause the collapse of the World Trade Center. They argue that pre-planted explosives must have been used to cause controlled demoltion and collapse of the World Trade Center twin towers.
    Fact

    * The collapse of the World Trade Center twin towers initiated where the planes hit the buildings. Controlled demolitions always are initiated at the bottom of a building, to take advantage of maximum gravity forces.

    * If the World Trade Center collapsed due to controlled demolition, as the theory goes, the explosive charges would have had to survive the crash of airplanes into the buildings. (at ~500 miles per hour)

    * When a controlled demolition occurs, you hear the very loud and very distinct sound of the charges going off. These will repeatedly go off, in a quick, regular pattern, for 10+ seconds prior to the structure collapsing. While some people heard what “sounded like an explosion” at the World Trade Center, this is not what they heard or described. Nor is any such sound of demolition charges going off heard in any videos of the collapse.

    * The detonations in a controlled demolition go off in a very regular pattern, not at all like the random squibs seen on 9/11. Those squibs are the result of pockets of air (the building is ~70% air in volume) being collapsed, with pulverized gypsum (drywall) and other material being forced out.

    * Blasting caps, detonating cord, and other such evidence were not found in the World Trade Center debris.

    Here’s an actual controlled demolition

    This is the June 2006 controlled demolition of an apartment building in Arlington, Virginia.

    In the video, notice the very loud sound of demolition charges going off for so many seconds before the entire structure imploded. The collapse of the World Trade Center looks and sounds nothing like this.

  110. JS,

    Popular Mechanics is linked to The Bilderberg Group.

    This isn’t even a credible resource to debunk any of this event. Their debunking has been debunked by HIGHLY qualified professionals.

  111. In the video, notice the very loud sound of demolition charges going off for so many seconds before the entire structure imploded. The collapse of the World Trade Center looks and sounds nothing like this.

  112. #

    JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 10:42 am

    JS,

    Popular Mechanics is linked to The Bilderberg Group.

    This isn’t even a credible resource to debunk any of this event. Their debunking has been debunked by HIGHLY qualified professionals.
    *******************************************

    Did they attend some of their meetings too???

  113. Oldsalt, I agree. Total INSANITY. When I hear that sort of stuff it makes me question all the things that actually sound logical to me about conspiracies. You’re scratchin’ your chin thinkin’ “Ya, why DID all those witnesses mysteriously die?” and then someone comes along and tells you that planes didn’t really hit the buildings blah blah blah.
    ************

    What happened to the 269 passengers of KAL 007???

    The shameful alternative to digging out the real truth about KAL 007 is to continue to abandon the 269 innocent persons who were on board, including 61 Americans, some of whom may still be alive, and all of whom deserve to be listed along with other American POWs/MIAs who have fallen victim to Communism and for whom there has as yet been no proper accounting.

    ~~~You really have to believe that noone found those bodies, they never washed ashore.~~~

  114. #

    JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 10:42 am

    JS,

    Popular Mechanics is linked to The Bilderberg Group.

    This isn’t even a credible resource to debunk any of this event. Their debunking has been debunked by HIGHLY qualified professionals.
    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    I think OldSalt linked where to go and get another report……Popular Mechanics are not the only people debunking…..I have heard both sides of the story many times on TV….the internet….each side has their scientists…..investigators……experts….you name it……but when the questions are asked….that is good…..but when they are answered and debunked we need to move on!

  115. Have fun debunking OldSalt and ticktock….back later!

  116. And another view…….can this really happen??
    Passengers disappear??
    ARE KAL 007 PASSENGERS HELD BY THE RUSSIANS?
    newswithviews.com

  117. For everyone using gov’t sites and statements as your source to debunk 9/11, you might want to watch this instead.

    I choose to think for myself, my government would rather I didn’t.

  118. At a recent Press Club appearance he announced he now has over 1,000 signatures on a petition demanding that Congress conduct a truly INDEPENDENT investigation.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/
    *************
    Might that be because 6 of the 10 commissioners admit to being given false, compromised, and slanted information regarding 9/11 and also that too much info was omitted by higher ups that is now being discovered??

  119. oldsalt78 @ 10:00am,

    While the TRUTHERS probably will still see George Bushe’s fingerprints everywhere, they should really read what the INVESTIGATORS have to say. Perhaps it will provide another angle of insight for them.
    _____________

    Another angle of insight for them ? Like blaming our national intelligence agency’s, for the “Alien Abduction Theory,” also ?

  120. JS, et all with questions on Popular Mechanics’ debunking…

    Jim Tucker @ American Free Press reported that Benjamin Chertoff, the “senior researcher” at Popular Mechanics who is authored an article about the “16 myths of 9/11” is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
    So…Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his “cousin” now heads. This is exactly the kind of “journalism” one would expect to find in a dictatorship like that of Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

    http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn/Bollyn-Chertoff_cousin.html

    AND this article showing the “family tree” of Hearst Corporation

    Popular Mechanics and the CIA Disinformation Scam

    …we should all be most grateful to ‘Popular Mechanics’ and its new editor James Meigs for indirectly telling us who the real perpetrators of 9/11 were by its rather long-winded “blind ‘em with science” attempt to suppress the truth of behalf of those perpetrators.

    snipped from:
    http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2009/05/popular-mechanics-and-cia.html

  121. Jacqlyn Smith // February 16, 2010 at 10:41 am

    These investigators say NO IMPLOSION….also other debunks here….
    ________________________________

    I used to laugh at the 911 truthers. Seriously, I heard nut things like there were no planes, ect. There are a few things that still bother me about 911. Anyone explain this?

    1. The planes were United Airlines, which use Pratt and Whitney engines exclusively (according to the CEO of United airlines), yet General Electric Jet engine cores and fragments were found at the WTC.

    2. There is a object that ‘appears’ to be attached to the bottom of the second plane, seen from multiple angles on video and on 35mm still photos, that I have only seen on military aircraft.

    3. There was somewhere on the order of 30 tones, potentially much much more, of precious metals in the WTC, most of which were lost. Official explanation is that it ‘evaporated’. The official explanation, strickly from a physics standpoint, is not possible from a jet fuel fire.

    4. Four black boxes from 2 aircraft were never officially found, yet they ‘sifted’ debris and found small fragments of everything. Further, eye witnesses say that all 4 boxes were found!

    I don’t have answers for “where is the gold?”, “where are the black boxes?”, “why do the engines not match the planes?”, “what is that attached to a commercial jet liner?”.

    I’m not saying it wasn’t as the government says it was….but I’m not laughing at the truthers anymore.

    Pete

  122. Patriot Dreamer

    “Indiana Dem: White House is conspiring to put Baron Hill in Bayh’s spot”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/16/indiana-dem-white-house-is-conspiring-to-put-baron-hill-in-bayhs-spot/comment-page-1/#comments

    Deadline to get on the primary ballot in Indiana is today.

  123. JJ, The South,

    It’s all yours……

  124. Understanding the hows and whys of the 9/11 deception will only enlighten us to the capability of the deceitful and anti-American behavior of hundreds in this country whose desire is to line their pockets with gold while destroying this economy for the NAU, the NWO— global dominance.

  125. Sue K — this is my first time to post — I want to encourage you to follow the Lymes disease trail. I went through months of problems in 1992 and was told in February of that year by a Neurologist that I had a virus (MS was also mentioned). He put me on steroids and that helped for a while. By March I had so much pressure in my head I thought I had a brain tumor (went to the ER and my BP was 80/50 and they suspected Bells Palsy). They sent me back to Neurologist. Again steroids helped and the MRI of my brain was normal (which helped me mentally). Finally in September 92 (after more docs then I care to remember for such problems as TMJ, fibromyalgia and severe allergies) I found a doc who specialized in Chronic Fatigue. He ran all kinds of blood tests. The only thing he found was that I had Lymes disease. (P.S. if you have a low body temp (under 98.6) check out Wilson’ Thyroid Syndrome also –Aspartame poisoning from diet products can also mimic MS). Good luck and God Bless.

  126. JJ,

    Hoping you saw my post earlier. Is this sufficient?

    Back later….

  127. Pete, add to your list that they DID find Atta’s passport although metal evaporated.

  128. Patriot Dreamer

    “Move Over China: Beijing Sells Whopping $34.2 Billion Treasuries In December As Japan Becomes Largest Official Holder Of US Debt”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/move-over-china-beijing-sells-whopping-342-billion-treasuries-december-japan-becomes-largest

  129. Venice, et al interested in the situation with Iran

  130. folks I am worried about Medina. She is getting alot of crap thrown at her by Beck. I just wonder how she is doing in the polling. Does anybody know? I have been posting her accolades where I usually post but have been getting blowback about the 9-11 bs.

  131. TO:
    oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 9:48 am

    I have but one question regarding the World Trade towers.
    \\\\\\\\ /////////////

    No many people are saying planes didn’t go into the towers it is obvious that they did. What they are sayiing is that it was a setup with people in high places helping.

    I have siad thsi before and nobody has addressed it yet. Why was there no water anywhere? Only dust but no mud anywhere. No water squirting anywhere. WHY?
    Where were the water mains, branches, and SPRINKLERS. In buildings that size there would be HUGE GUHSERS of water somewhere BUT NO WATER. WHY?

    Was the water and sprinklers shut off by Magic Plumbing the night before?

    As for Building 7, seems like it was man made collapse. There is no reason for this bldg to fall. They have demolitions of bldgs right next to other bldgs and the other bldgs don’t fall.

    The fire on the Towers was on upper floors and heat is not an issue for bldg 7

    SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT with the scenario we have been propagandized with.

    There was a fire BUT no sprinklers went off?
    A buigling collapses but no water anywhere only dry dust?? SOMTHING IS FISHY.

  132. Connie,I ‘m reading that Medina is trailing by double-digits. Perry will probably face a run-off with Kay Bailey. He may not even have a run-off. Its not looking good for Medina but maybe somehow things will turn around…we shall see.
    Remember to thank Glen Beck….

  133. Hi, Connie,

    I have to run out the door, but…I’m on an email list and it said she was basically tied with Kay Bailey. Early voting begins today.

    I figure she’ll end up in a run off with Perry. That’s why she needs financial help. She doesn’t have the access to funds that Perry does. She’ll need the funds to fight the negative ads that will hit the airwaves.

    Keep the faith and keep spreading the word, Connie! We need more devotees like you.

    Back later.

  134. Osama bin Laden working in Colombia as a Security Guard??

    He looks more like OBL than the last video of supposed OBL

  135. magna carta,

    oh boy…our posts conflict. I don’t have time to find the link for my info as it came in an email this a.m. – I really don’t follow the polls too closely. I think it causes people to vote based on the poll numbers.

    is there anything on http://www.medinafortexas.com

  136. Patriot Dreamer

    JustMe, IMO many polls are designed to psychologically manipulate people.

  137. JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 9:47 am

    JJ,

    Good Morning,

    re: Alex Jones prediction of the next false flag attack

    He predicts the “O” will be the subject of the false flag event. He said either he’ll be wounded, or will meet with the same tragic outcome as JFK.
    **********
    And as I said earlier, I will never believe the ‘corpse’ or corp, depending on if the idiot is pronouncing, is real…technology, hollywood, psyops all can create illusions……

  138. Patriot Dreamer,

    YEP!

  139. Just sent Medina some campaign cash. Got to help Texas make a stand!

  140. I will donate $17.76 to Medina in Honor of 1776

    Good luck to her, people of TEXAS vote Medina or Perry stay away from the other RINO woman

  141. So I don’t know how much info you want about the dissecting of Beck’s clips…I know how you love him. …i smile…
    ***********
    Not funny. I know I called husband to read parts of Devvy Kidd to him about the bankrupt govt, not buying India/China, only USA made (which I do), etc. ..he said his tax accountant told him the first to go will be the govt, no welfare checks, no SSI, no govt. pensions, no Soc. Sec, and of course I said…….

    I’VE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS FOR A YEAR..THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN RUNNING ON AIR FOR YEARS!!!

  142. Heads Up,

    Webster Tarpley will be a guest today on Alex Jones show in the 3rd hour. He will be talking about Alex’s prediction yesterday about next false flag being “O” and how he believes “O” is being blackmailed to go to war with Iran.

    It was Tarpley that saw through the big deal that was made about the mystery couple at the state dinner; as being an indicator of what the next false flag would be.

    Show just started – 11:00 thru 3:00 Central

    http://www.infowars.com
    http://www.prisonplanet.com
    or listen by phone 512-646-5000 or 760-569-7700

  143. Peter, There was no water because there was no water. This excerpt was taken from a general report on sprinkler systems in the US By Russell P. Fleming, P.E.
    Executive Vice President
    National Fire Sprinkler Association

    But it should be pointed out that the World Trade Center was not originally built with sprinkler protection, and therefore no reduction in fire resistance was granted on the basis of the sprinkler protection. Built in the early 1970s, the World Trade Center towers were retrofitted with sprinkler protection in the 1980’s. The Federal Emergency Management Agency report on the World Trade Center collapse indicates that both the automatic sprinkler system and the ability to conduct manual firefighting activities with the use of the standpipe system were disabled by the initial impacts of the hijacked commercial aircraft.

  144. JS, I’m sooo not interested in debunking. In fact, Todd Beamer is code for an alien implant. Just look at his last name. He was beamed up by Scotty to the Mars alien station where his brain was replaced by a reptilian replica of Algore and is no doubt walking among us as the enemy working day and night convincing us that the planes that rammed into the buildings were a figment of our imagination and that all the passengers aren’t really sitting up there on mars somewhere as reptilian slaves.

    Nope, if people refuse to believe, I’m not gonna try to persuade them.

  145. And Peter there is another reference taken from here.

    Modern structures are designed to resist fire for a specific length of time. Safety features such as fire retarding materials and sprinkler systems help to contain fires, help extinguish flames, or prevent steel from being exposed to excessively high temperatures. This gives occupants time to escape and allow fire fighters to extinguish blazes, before the building is catastrophically damaged.

    It is possible that the blaze, started by jet fuel and then engulfing the contents of the offices, in a highly confined area, generated fire conditions significantly more severe than those anticipated in a typical office fire. These conditions may have overcome the building’s fire defences considerably faster than expected. It is likely that the water pipes that supplied the fire sprinklers were severed by the plane impact, and much of the fire protective material, designed to stop the steel from being heated and losing strength, was blown off by the blast at impact.

  146. oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 9:48 am

    1) there was’t that much debris
    2) where are the bodies
    3) why petition off the area and have FOIA to get the pictures now coming out from the reporters
    4) one part has been found to be from another plane from a junk yard, yep
    5) why block the video from across the street that shows the plane entering the yard before impact
    6) where are the burn/skid marks on the lawn made by a 747 flying that low
    7) your expertise–scholars/pilots say a 747 flying at that speed would have done much more damage–500 MPH?? come on!!
    8) the streetlight felled by the alleged plane wasn’t even in the pathway of the alleged plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon
    9) why choose the remodeled part of the Pentagon that just happens to be holding all account books and computer data to discover where the 2.3 trillion stolen by whats his name?? there were easier targets in that bldg.
    10) why allow a ‘renegade’ plane to fly for 1 and half hours and not call the shots……TAKE IT DOWN NOW!!!

    And i just got started….spent 2 weeks on this and have pages of notes.
    NOONE CAN CONVINCE ME BUSH, RUMSFELD, AND CHENEY DID NOT KNOW AND WERE NOT INVOLVED AFTER LEARNING WHO HELD OFFICES IN THE TOWERS AND HOW MUCH GOLD DISAPPEARED.

  147. Isn’t the antichrist supposed to sustain a mortal wound and then survive?
    Someone else on this blog said they wouldn’t believe it if they said he was wounded. I wouldn’t believe it either.

  148. One day closer to seeing obama’s vital records!

    Rejoice!

    And again I say rejoice!

  149. yo, Hope you’re right!

  150. TO:

    Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    Peter, There was no water because there was no water. This excerpt was taken from a general report on sprinkler systems in the US By Russell P. Fleming, P.E.
    Executive Vice President
    National Fire Sprinkler Association

    But it should be pointed out that the World Trade Center was not originally built with sprinkler protection, and therefore no reduction in fire resistance was granted on the basis of the sprinkler protection. Built in the early 1970s, the World Trade Center towers were retrofitted with sprinkler protection in the 1980’s. The Federal Emergency Management Agency report on the World Trade Center collapse indicates that both the automatic sprinkler system and the ability to conduct manual firefighting activities with the use of the standpipe system were disabled by the initial impacts of the hijacked commercial aircraft.

    ==============

    IS THIS A JOKE?

    Is it APRIL 1 yet?

    Do these MORONS thik that they can fool everyone 100% of the time?

    The Plane hit on top floors did that hit “disable” all the floors below?

    How do you disable a water main with a plane? I would like to know that one PLEASE.

    Just think of all the water that goes into a building like, it is huge piping and piping everywhere.

    DRY DUST not a drop of water to be found is the red flag that points to SABOTAGE. The excuse that the airplane impact disabled it is such a FRAUD statment. I wnat to see any engineer back this claim up.
    IMPOSSIBLE. When they built teh building they put airplane sensors with automatatic shutoff valves at the cost of MILLIONS in case a plane hits a bldg.

    Maybe a 5 yr old would believe it BUT SURELY NOT GROWN-UPS.

  151. Patriot Dreamer

    “Dem succession plan for Bayh flawed? Update: d’Ippolito says she has the signatures”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/16/dem-succession-plan-for-bayh-flawed/

    Nice how d’Ippolito calls on “teabaggers” for help getting the required petition signatures. That’s classy.

  152. Patriot Dreamer

    Senator Evan Bayh: “But if I could create one job in the private sector by helping to grow a business, that would be one more than Congress has created in the last six months.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/16/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6212208.shtml

  153. JJ, Kentucky is a beautiful state the mountains of eastern Ky to all the lakes. It has more lakes and rivers than coastline in fla. The horse farms in Lexington to taking the senic route along the Ohio river. KY, Barkley and Cumberland Lake, to Cumberland Falls the only place to see a moonbow at nightime when the moon is full. The Days of Hatfield and McCoy are over but they do have a festival in Pike Co every year in honor of their fued. We have an unbridled spirit here in the bluegrass state and we are gearing up for our political season. There is nothing like KY politics just read The Bluegrass Conspiracy.

  154. 1. The planes were United Airlines, which use Pratt and Whitney engines exclusively (according to the CEO of United airlines), yet General Electric Jet engine cores and fragments were found at the WTC.

    BINGO!!!

    2. There is a object that ‘appears’ to be attached to the bottom of the second plane, seen from multiple angles on video and on 35mm still photos, that I have only seen on military aircraft.

    BINGO AGAIN!!! It was discovered by France

    3. There was somewhere on the order of 30 tones(sic), potentially much much more, of precious metals in the WTC, most of which were lost. Official explanation is that it ‘evaporated’. The official explanation, strickly from a physics standpoint, is not possible from a jet fuel fire.

    BINGO AGAIN…….a new chemical was used to reduce ALL that bldg. to dust…fine dust..where on earth have you ever seen that done?? never.

    4. Four black boxes from 2 aircraft were never officially found, yet they ’sifted’ debris and found small fragments of everything. Further, eye witnesses say that all 4 boxes were found!

    Yep, no black boxes………but, hey look, a PASSPORT from one of the Arabs who by-passed a multi-billion dollar defense system of the most guarded bldg in the world that should have fired a missile at ‘unidentified incoming’!!

    Pete…keep thinking for yourself.

  155. You can bet every state which this highway is going thru is a place where they want just the right person in to accomplish this.

    Here’s a little tidbit that I found on this super highway.

    Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.

    Once complete, the new road will allow containers from the Far East to enter the United States through the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, bypassing the Longshoreman’s Union in the process. The Mexican trucks, without the involvement of the Teamsters Union, will drive on what will be the nation’s most modern highway straight into the heart of America. The Mexican trucks will cross border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first customs stop will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City, their new Smart Port complex, a facility being built for Mexico at a cost of $3 million to the U.S. taxpayers in Kansas City.

    As incredible as this plan may seem to some readers, the first Trans-Texas Corridor segment of the NAFTA Super Highway is ready to begin construction next year. Various U.S. government agencies, dozens of state agencies, and scores of private NGOs (non-governmental organizations) have been working behind the scenes to create the NAFTA Super Highway, despite the lack of comment on the plan by President Bush. The American public is largely asleep to this key piece of the coming “North American Union” that government planners in the new trilateral region of United States, Canada and Mexico are about to drive into reality.

    Just examine the following websites to get a feel for the magnitude of NAFTA Super Highway planning that has been going on without any new congressional legislation directly authorizing the construction of the planned international corridor through the center of the country.
    .

  156. 9/11 no water may fool some people just like many were fooled that this is not Jack Benny.

  157. JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 11:11 am

    JJ, The South,

    It’s all yours……
    ***********
    You mean Pete’s concerns…….all systems go, all handled, Houston “we have touchdown”!!!

  158. Wow, this blog will lose viewers and commentators faster than the twin towers fell if this truther crap sticks around.

  159. Patriot Dreamer

    Senator Evan Bayh: “[I]f I could create one job in the private sector by helping to grow a business, that would be one more than Congress has created in the last six months.”

    Stimulus/Porkulus FAIL

  160. Greg,

    Not truthers I’m just wondering what happened to the water. An airplane cannot break pipes full of water pressure over 80 PSI and the water doesn’t come out of the broken pipe. A building can’t collapse with 100′s if not 1000′s of water pipes in it some huge pipes of possibly 36″ or 48″ and many smaller branches and NO WATER ANYWHERE.
    It is impossible and a plane crash would NEVER disable any water piping.

  161. AYE for Virginia many other states should follow their lead not only with Helathcare but ALMOST all Federal laws and mandates.

  162. Do these MORONS thik that they can fool everyone 100% of the time?

    The Plane hit on top floors did that hit “disable” all the floors below?

    ______________
    You got there before I could…thanks, PRWH…now, to find that Beamer alien someone was speaking about!!!

  163. Radar ziva………………………………………
    I trust that you have visited someone or live in Pike CountyKY. All of my wife’s relatives now live in Spencer County close to Taylorsville. Two of them used to live within about a mile of the Pike County line. While the living standards probably has improved, the spirit of these people has NOT diminished. While you might make it through the County today it doesn’t mean that many of these people wish that outsiders would stay away. My wife’s brother wrrked at Ford and retired from there. Afterward he and his brother became builders. They hired two framers who came up to Spencer to get a job. I personally met these two individuals. To say the least they knew how to do things that a hellava lot of people never heard of. This is primarily because it was a case that they either done it themselves or it didn’t get done. They learned by doing just as their fathers had done. By the way many of the PIKERS still follow the MOON.

  164. Only in an Orwellian world could the word “truther” be a bad thing…

  165. Adios People it was nice while it lasted.

  166. connie // February 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    Thanks for the info on the superhighway. Could you please post the link?

  167. @ don and salt:

    I had always assumed that IT had been born of a jackal :D

  168. From prior post: Does anyone know who the person was that belonged to this social security number? Had to be someone early in the system.
    Can you imagine if this was one of your relatives and you found out that this was used in the sabotaging of an unConstitutional presidency. You would want to die of shame, and you nor your relative did anything wrong, you were just used as a means to an end.
    The Stolen Connecticut Social Security Number # 042-68-4425 that was issued in the state of Connecticut (Obama never lived in Connecticut – So why is Obama using a Connecticut Social Security of a dead man, that was previously used by this person who was is now deceased, and who was born 1890 in Soviet Russia, for himself?!)

  169. Now, I know how Larry Sinclair must feel.

  170. Radar Ziva // February 16, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Radar, I moved here August, 2007, from Tennessee to get from illegfal Mexicans.

    I’m in Logan Co, just 20 miles from the southern state line.

    ~~~~~~~ A salesman traveling across the country noticed pay phones in all the churches and a sign above…call God, $1000.
    He got to Kentucky and the sign above the pay phone said, call God, .25 cents.
    He asked the clergy why the price was different and he said, oh, you’re in Ky now, the calls are local!!

  171. don in california

    oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm
    —————-
    Just a FYI…. My family is from McCracken County in Western KY.

  172. Kim, I can’t find the link. I usually go so fast that I don’t bookmark them and then have trouble finding it.

    I also want to tell you guys from Texas that I am getting people saying that a vote for Medina is a vote for Perry. How do we counteract this??? How will be ever control who we (the people) want in??

  173. don in california

    Buraq ’08 // February 16, 2010 at 1:29 pm
    —————————
    I’m not as mean as you. I wouldn’t insult a jackal like that. :)

  174. JJ, good one.

  175. Does anyone remember when Glenn Beck “debunked” the FEMA camps. that he turned to an expert from Popular Mechanics? I thought that was really strange then ….. kind of ties the two together, though. I will look for a link to verify…

  176. Old Salt, It is not just Pike County a lot of Eastern KY follow the moon, my husband’s family is from Harlan County.

  177. Peter, That size building does not have the size of pipe you describe. The sprinkler system would have been in zones, typically a zone would be a number of floors handled by a water tank and the size of that tank would be based upon a what could be considered an office fire. The pipes that feed those tanks are only standard sized pipes to allow refilling at a given rate. None of these zones would have been activated by a fire above it. And none of these zones would have been equipped with enough water to handle the fire from a commercial aircraft carrying the amount of fuel to fly clear across country.

  178. Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    CW Have you seen this?
    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/02/call-for-help-seeking-more-ip-addresses.html

    ……………………………………………………………………………………….

    Greg,

    Have you posted this at Mario’s blog?

    Benaiah

  179. So why is Obama using a Connecticut Social Security of a dead man, that was previously used by this person who was is now deceased, and who was born 1890 in Soviet Russia, for himself?!)

    Michelle ask the Social Security Administration or the FBI….good luck.

    Many of the public alerted the FBI to the illegality of the usurper in 2008…I didn’t get any response.

  180. Folks the key issue is the Super Highway a.k.a. Trans texas corridor. I am thinking back to the primaries when BO won those states in the northwest (North Dakota, etc). Democrats don’t win those states, why would this embecile win those states??? Of coarse he cheated but the people who are his puppetmasters know in order for the NWO to become a reality they must get this highway in. In order for us to retain our country we MUST STOP THE HIGHWAY.
    I think we will see a huge effort in 2010′ and 2012′ to gain control of these states where this highway is going thru.

  181. Connie,

    this is old political thinking that’s hard to overcome. Just educate as best as you can.

    There is a voter guide at http://www.texasturf.org Send them there or print it out yourself and pass it around. This grassroots group has been fighting the NAFTA Superhighway for a long time. They have a lot of articles on Perry and that agenda.

    Also, http://www.freedomadvocates.org for info and a pdf document on Agenda 21 and what it means to our communities.

    Encourage them to do their own research. They are not as informed as you. Just continue to educate them as best you can. But, they have to do their own research.

    Send them to youtube…there are a lot of videos on the Trans Tex Corridor/NAFTA Superhighway AND Agenda 21/Club of Rome.

    There’s still time for them to discover.

  182. Patriot Dreamer

    great artice from Thomas Sowell today:

    “Playing Freedom Cheap”

    http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2010/02/16/playing_freedom_cheap

  183. Connie @1:51

    See, you’re putting it all together now.

  184. don in california // February 16, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    oldsalt78 // February 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm
    —————-
    Just a FYI…. My family is from McCracken County in Western KY.
    **************

    Just around the corner……100 miles from Logan…Howdy!!

  185. Grace,

    oh yes, I remember. That’s when I went looking for a deeper connection on Hearst Corp.

    Why not have some of those commissioners on to talk about it. That’s what I’ve noticed on Beck…his choice of guests. It’s a small circle of people. Very small. The gov’t documents are available for anyone to read. The film he chose to use to justify his “debunking” had already been discredited years before. It was a European camp. Total garbage. But…the average person is lazy and won’t do their own research.

  186. Just me, It just hit me a few minutes ago, this is what the whole damn thing is about. What this really means is will the NWO folks get it or they don’t. I don’t know we dont have much time.

  187. JustMe // February 16, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Connie,

    Re: Trans Corridor….this country is broke..big time…other countries must be financing this…the tolls will be managed by another country…Texas and USA gets nothing…just loss of property for those kicked off their land and homes.

    This is a part of the NWO, the beginning of global govt.

    There is only one explanation why the border was never funded, and this must be it.

  188. TO:
    connie // February 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Kim, I can’t find the link. I usually go so fast that I don’t bookmark them and then have trouble finding it.

    I also want to tell you guys from Texas that I am getting people saying that a vote for Medina is a vote for Perry. How do we counteract this??? How will be ever control who we (the people) want in??
    \\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////

    If you go to your browser address widnow and click on the little triangle button at the end it will open up the window and show all the website you visited you may be able to find teh link in this manner

  189. Here are a few Absolutely MUST Read Articles and MUST See Videos:

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  190. JJ , JustMe, I think your right. I also think that is why there is cooridinated effort to cover up just who the heck Obama is. Do you realize he may be part of the govt.’s that will take charge of this when it comes to pass. WHo know Obama is definitely being protected by both sides and it has to be the same reason they never funded the border. What they’ve done instead is to clean out the drug dealers so that the American people won’t scream when we’re annexed.

  191. Video: Taliban’s Top Commander ‘Captured’ In Joint US-Pak Raid

    Top Taliban Commander captured in joint CIA ISI Operation Feb 15 2010

  192. TO:

    Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Peter, That size building does not have the size of pipe you describe. The sprinkler system would have been in zones, typically a zone would be a number of floors handled by a water tank and the size of that tank would be based upon a what could be considered an office fire. The pipes that feed those tanks are only standard sized pipes to allow refilling at a given rate. None of these zones would have been activated by a fire above it. And none of these zones would have been equipped with enough water to handle the fire from a commercial aircraft carrying the amount of fuel to fly clear across country.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////

    Thanks for the info but I think you are talking about sprinkler piping which would still be pretty big and I was refering to water piping which with that many bathrooms would have to be pretty huge and possibly have many separate services coming in. In either case there is no way a crash anywhere in that buidling would disable the water piping.

    Another thing on the link you sent it is from Sydney Univ in Australia, with all the engineering schools we have we get a report from Sydney?

    When those buildings collapsed while collapsing and after there should have been water squirting everwhere like a garden sprinklers and gushers and some of the dust would be mud not all of it dry dust.

    The only this wouldn’t happen is if the water was shut off before the event. I wonder if anyone reported no water in the bathrooms when they got there in the AM.

  193. Video: Liz Cheney Responds to Biden – Cheney Verbal Sparring Over War on Terror

    Verbal Sparring Over War on Terror

  194. What we have to realize this agenda 21 is part of the “combine”. Both democrats and republicans alike have been bought off by the globalists to move forward their agenda. I know there are many here who like Bush, but certainly you have to realize that he and his father are part of the NWO. I am also beginning to think Bill Clinton is to, but I don’t believe Hillary is and this is why. She would have been Potus had she agreed. She knew Bill’s Nafta was bad news and she said she would try and fix that which pist off the globalists. THey want what they want and that’s it.

  195. Special thanks to C. W. (Constitutional Warrior – Citizen Wells) for being in America’s daily nature and court land’s offices who brings & unites many Sovereign USA American’s together as one Sovereign American People – WE ll’s 24/7/365 daily.

  196. Connie,

    I know it’s difficult to even imagine that Hillary may have a “dark side.” I was of that mindset, too. I have since come to learn more and more about her, especially during this past election.

    Funny, I read that Bill actually tamed her down from her radical college days. I thought it would have been the other way around. She is nobody’s fool, and if she didn’t know what was ahead of her, she wouldn’t even entertain the thought of holding a high office.

    I would just encourage you to continue your own research. Keep digging. Be ready to let go of all your previous notions and ideology.

  197. Think about this one….

    No one could de-industrialize the U.S. but the U.S

    - perfectly put and out of the mouth of Webster Tarpley

  198. connie // February 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/yzbop5h

    =====

    Kim // February 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    “Thanks for the info on the superhighway. Could you please post the link?”

    =====

    connie // February 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    “Kim, I can’t find the link. I usually go so fast that I don’t bookmark them and then have trouble finding it.”

    ================

    This is the link to what was posted by connie @ 12:52:

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/nafta_superhighway_bush_admin_secret_plan.htm

    ================

    How did I find it? Do a “search” using the first few words.

  199. Indeed, as the superpower of the last century who could de-industrialize the U.S. but the U.S.?

  200. This is hard to beleive that it is in the NYTimes.

    Corruption in Black Caucus good thing it is in NYTimes if it was on Fox there would be Sharpton and Jackson “The Race Pimp Twins” throwing out RACISM claims.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/NYT-The-Corruption-of-the-Congressional-Black-Caucus-84348862.html

  201. don in california

    OT

    For Oldsalt and all other enlisted vets:

    A U.S. MarineColonel was about to start the morning briefing to his staff.

    While waiting for the coffee machine to finish its brewing, the colonel decided to pose a question to all assembled.

    He explained that his wife had been a bit frisky the night before and he failed to get his usual amount of sound sleep.

    He posed the question of just how much of sex was “work” and how much of it was “pleasure?”

    A Major chimed in with 75-25% in favor of work.

    A Captain said it was 50-50%.

    A lieutenant responded with 25-75% in favor of pleasure, depending upon his state of inebriation at the time.

    There being no consensus, the colonel turned to the PFC who was in charge of making the coffee. What was HIS opinion?

    Without any hesitation, the young PFC responded, “Sir, it has to be 100% pleasure.”

    The colonel was surprised and, as you might guess, asked why?

    “Well, sir, if there was any work involved, the officers would have me doing it for them.”

    The room fell silent.

    God Bless the enlisted man.

  202. don in california

    On my way to the doc’s. See you all later.

  203. Venice,

    You got it.

    It was the obvious, but I just hadn’t thought of it this simplistically. That’s why I decided to post it.

  204. Peter,

    sitting in that economy section will do that to anyone. Were you surprised to read he was sitting in economy? Campaigning already…

  205. Thank you, Gordo!

  206. TO:
    connie // February 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    I have an old XP 2000…
    At the top of my task bar, under the forward and back buttons, I have a star and click it, it says favorites or history…
    I choose history and it says
    by date
    by site
    by most visited
    by order visited today

  207. I think this is where I got it.

    h t t p : //www.democrats.com/node/9267

    I found it by just putting in Super Hiway into Yahoo. I managed to find it.

  208. Believe me the democrats want this hiway to, so don’t let this piece turn you against what it says. It called the illinois combine. Obama was selected to let this go thru.

  209. I can tell Obama is knee deep in this Hiway, just think how many terrorists they could sneak into America like this??? We would have no other choice but to make agreement to have a north american union

  210. Peter, Kim and others who are not residents of Texas, but so generously gave to the Medina campaign, – thank you! thank you! thank you!

  211. If you go to that site it apparently is trying to go against the republicans and Bush and now the democrats are pushing this too. This should show you we the American people are being manipulated. I have been saying this for a long time. The republicans are back on this abortion thing again. I am tired of hearing the same old thing while they are busy behind the scenes stealing America from the Americans.

  212. Connie,

    2 heads – 1 snake! It’s really that simple.

  213. Connie,

    You are so right. Look at the Stupak amendment that dominated the air waves about the health care bill, yet he SOLD OUT the state of Michigan by co-sponsoring Pelosi’s bill giving the U.N. carte blanche to their precious land under Agenda 21.

    I posted a link to an article earlier on this thread.

  214. Oh, I forgot….AYE CW

  215. NancyDrew // February 16, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Hi Nancy,

    Interesting. I wonder if this is real?

    One think I can verify is that ‘sniffing carbon monoxide fumes’ would’t make you high; it’d make you dead.

    Is Barky really that stupid?

  216. Sue:

    I have to wonder if it’s real, also. You’d think it would be all over the place, if it was. On the other hand, is ‘The Guardian’ reporting it as a joke? Just don’t know, but found it interesting.

  217. JustMe, Here is another link that I found interesting. I just worry how we will ever stop this. Beck whining he is for small business is a lie, he a big business whore. I hope he falls off the wagon and starts drinking again. He hasn’t looked happy lately.

    h t t p : //www.nascocorridor.com/

  218. Has this been posted yet? JD Hayworth cites identity theft fears in his request for obama citizenship papers.

  219. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/

    The Era of Corporate Servitude is Over – By Prophet
    Posted on February 16th, 2010 by David-Crockett
    The Restore America Plan-This is It and we’re out of time!
    Many groups and American Patriots have emerged in the honor of God and Country in an effort to restore our beautiful America and the Constitution so granted to us by God and our Founding Fathers. Many have had doors slammed in their faces, hit obstacles, been arrested, but they continue challenging the Corporation of America that came into play as U.S. Inc., in 1861 as 28 U.S.C. 3002 (paragraph 15) reads:
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00003002—-000-.html
    or; http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/28C176.txt
    so, the Progressives have been working for a very long time to take our freedoms away and make us slaves all over the game of POWER. The progressives are in the midst of planning our economic collapse and another WWIII as history reminds us of. We need to get ready before this happens. The time is now, we can do this in 30 days if you help.
    Now more than ever, we as American Patriots, for God and our Country need to stand together to make an instant change and continue plugging away against the Establishment of Big Banks and Big Brother (U.S., Inc.) in order to preserve our Constitutional and Land Rights that were so granted to us by God. In particular, our land rights are heavily under attack by a massive increase of eminent domain cases on the rise http://dailyreporter.com/blog/2010/02/03/eminent-domain-cases-on-the-rise/
    and many other issues.
    This leads to me to an audio I listened to:
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=165974
    http://www.suijurisclub.net/office-information-retrieval/7838-restore-america-plan.html
    If you could keep your homes (even if their in foreclosure now), never have to pay taxes, be free and live off the land harmoniously, would you give some of your time to be Free under the land GOD so graciously gave us? If so, listen to the audio above and sign up to be a Coordinator or a juror with the RESTORE AMERICA PLAN at TheRestoreAmericaPlan@gmail.com and in the subject line type in Coordinator-your republic state or Juror-your republic state.
    Republic people from every state are needed, however coordinators are particularly needed in the states of Alaska, Vermont, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, Oklahoma, West Virginia and Wyoming. Please continue signing up from other states to be de’jure jurors and coordinators to take back the Republic that God has so proudly gave to us.
    The Sunday broadcast from the RestoreAmericaPlan has not been posted yet but it was exceptional. Some of the states have already signed their Declarations and others are being met with to do same and if we can successfully recruit folks from the states listed above, we will be that much closer to the completion of Restoring America under GOD.

  220. Timely article –

    The Media Response to the Growing Influence of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

    n the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.

    Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a “conspiracy theory” ignoring science and common sense.

    This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.

    Eight countries – Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of 9/11.

    *This more open approach* taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

    The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country’s foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

    Until 2009, doubts about the official 9/11 story were briefly entertained by the mainstream media on each anniversary of the event, allowing the independent research community only a fleeting moment once a year to publicly voice its findings.

    But after crucial scientific evidence emerged in April 2009 to challenge the official story of how the towers fell, a spate of European media reports followed.

    Rest of article here:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17624

    Tell me that the media does not control our mindset….

  221. ROLL BACK PELOSI.
    REVERSE COURSE.

    I would rather be waterboarded than put up with these Criminals in CONgress.

    Windfall Tax on Retirement Income

    Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you’re so darn stupid that we’re going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That’s what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below…………….

    Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren’t going to believe this.

    Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds!) Alas, it is true – all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

    This woman is frightening.
    She quotes…’ We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn’t Marx say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.’ (I am not rich, are you?)

    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
    ‘We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Americans’.’
    (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.) ‘Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it’…

    Send it on to your friends. I just did!! This lady is out of her mind and she is the speaker of the house!

  222. Connie,

    I have not seen this website before. Thanks for the link.

    Yep, I’m afraid we were all fooled by Beck.

  223. Peter,

    it’s so crazy and gets crazier by the day. By now we can see what we are being reduced to – serfdom – 30 years in the making!

  224. Kim,12:24pm
    Remember what Jesus said in Matthew 24 4-8KJV
    And Jesus answered and said unto them,Take heed that no man deceive you.
    For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall decieve many.
    And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars;see that ye be not troubled:for all these things shall come to pass,but the end is not yet.

    For nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom;and there shall be famines,and pestilences,and earthquakes,in diver places.
    All these are the beginning of sorrows.

  225. Now more is known about Amy Bishop the tenure denied killer.

    [...]A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children – the youngest a third-grade boy – was a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.
    [...]

    Full story:
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1232943&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull

  226. Now, Hillary’s got other men fighting over her…

    US, Turkish officials get physical in Qatar

    A fight broke out between high-ranking US and Turkish officials at a meeting held between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Qatar.

    The fight was reported between the US ambassador to Qatar and an advisor to the Turkish prime minister at the end of a 20-minute meeting between Clinton and Erdogan on Monday.

    The altercation took place after the US envoy entered the room to remind those present to close the meeting as the time was over.

    In response, Erdogan’s adviser said, “It is not for you to judge the importance of our meeting, you offend our country,” the Turkish daily Today’s Zaman reported.

    The quarrel led to physical confrontation and the two diplomats were separated with difficulty.

    snipped from:

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=118689&sectionid=351020205

  227. Wow, it looks like the FBI has really screwed up trying to illegally go after Larry Sinclair. According to Sinclair, Laredo, Tx FBI field agent Robert Henly claimed that Sinclair had engaged in some fraud against a Georgia bank, and that he would be prosecuted as a result. But Sinclair taped a conversation with someone at the bank, and no such actions were taken by the FBI regarding the account in question. It appears to be yet another example of abuse of power directed at Sinclair. First the Delaware AG, Beau Biden, and now the FBI. Wow, just wow.

    Here is a link to the story, and you can hear Sinclair’s conversation with the bank as well.

    http://www.larrysinclair.com/Social-Security-.html

  228. Gianni,

    This is how Larry to this day is standing and speaking. He was and is 2 steps ahead of his oppressors.

  229. Patriot Dreamer

    Tea Party leaders ask voters to help draft ‘Contract from America’

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/15/tea-party-leaders-ask-voters-to-help-draft-contract-from-america/

  230. http://seekingalpha.com/article/188708-gold-heads-higher-as-economy-weakens-and-dollar-continues-to-fall

    To Soros:

    “Karl Popper would be appalled by how you’ve misrepresented his philosophy and scotch-taped yourself to his coattails.”

  231. Patriot Dreamer

    Now Dems are talking about using the reconciliation process to try and pass the healthcare bill *with the public option*

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/16/new-dem-idea-hey-lets-use-reconciliation-to-pass-the-public-option/

  232. CENSUS is a gimmick to PASS taxpayer Money to those that Pimp for Obama ACORN.

    It’s basically a transfer of Wealth that needs to be SHUT DOWN and ROLLED BACK

    ROLL BACK PELOSI
    ROLL BACK ACORN CENSUS

  233. From the Desk of:
    Steve Elliott
    Grassfire Nation

    Something I read in Obama’s budget just sent a chill down
    my spine. It could mean the end of America as we know it.
    Please see below. –Steve

    Dear Patriots:

    After looking over the Obama budget, I think I can see the end
    of America.

    …Over $2 trillion in tax increases over the decade

    …Rapid acceleration of the national debt from a staggering
    $7.7 trillion today to an incomprehensible $18.57
    trillion in 10 years

    …Government takeover of health care, energy and the student
    loan program

    But it gets much worse…

    Obama’s budget dramatically INCREASES government spending and
    the deficit in comparison to what would happen if the government
    passed no new laws in the next 10 years! Send Congress home for
    10 years and we would be better off!

    Obama is trying to make the claim that he is restoring fiscal
    responsibility, but nothing could be further from the truth.

    And the closer you look, the uglier the picture gets…

    In the next three years alone, Obama plans on increasing
    government SPENDING over the current law by more than
    $500 BILLION and ring up real deficits of nearly $4 TRILLION!

    That would mean Obama would be responsible in just four
    years for increasing the real debt by $5.496 TRILLION –
    coming close to all the debt accumulated under all
    prior presidents.

    Plus, Obama has snuck the cap and trade scheme in as a
    “deficit neutral” item — hiding another $853 BILLION in
    new taxes for what amounts to a global warming slush
    fund off the official budget books.

    And all the while, Obama continues the policies of his
    predecessors in raping and pillaging the Social Security
    Trust Fund (which is now running its own deficits)
    to the tune of $1.4 TRILLION.

    But as bad as all this sounds, one line from “Table S-4″
    in Obama’s budget sent a chill down my spine as a
    thought about the future of our nation…

    Interest payments on the national debt will grow from
    $188 BILLION in 2010 to an unsustainable $840 BILLION
    in 2020. That’s just servicing the interest on the debt,
    while the total debt continues to spiral out of control.

    + + Time to Stop The Spending Madness

    We have reached the tipping point…
    that could possibly lead to the End of America as we know
    it. “The borrower is the slave of the lender” is a
    timeless proverb that will be played out on the grandest
    of scales before our eyes.

    Eventually, China or some other foreign power will call
    our debt bluff and the only solution will be radical
    government policy — hyper-inflation, hyper-taxation,
    or hyper-statism.

    We simply must draw a line in the sinking sand RIGHT NOW,
    and that’s why I’m writing to you today.

    Grassfire Nation is launching a national petition to
    Stop The Spending Madness and Restore Fiscal Sanity.

    Our petition first opposes the Obama budget and the
    spendthrift ways of the entire D.C. political establishment.
    The petition specifically opposes ANY new spending or
    “stimulus” plans, or any new taxes.

    If you are as deeply concerned about the runaway spending
    of our federal government, please join me in signing our
    “Stop The Spending Madness” petition. Go here:

    http://grassfire.com/129/petition.asp?ref_id=500064

    + + A straightforward solution

    Our petition doesn’t stop there.

    We then outline a straightforward plan to reverse our nation’s
    downward government spending spiral. It’s simply called
    “CAP, CUT AND GROW.”

    First, a 100% CAP on all federal spending. NO “baseline
    budgeting” automatic giving. NO increases at all. This is
    precisely what millions of families across America have
    done during this economic downturn. At the very least,
    our government can do the same!

    Second, a 10% CUT in all government programs. Again, if
    your family faced a budget shortfall, you would cut
    spending! The only exception is Social Security and
    Medicare which Americans have paid for with their
    hard-earned dollars.

    Third, a simple plan to GROW the economy. The fact is,
    the only way out of the debt bondage is to dramatically
    grow our economy. Unlike the Obama plan that creates
    more government dependency, our plan releases us from
    the worst entanglements of the government and would
    unleash an explosion of economic growth.

    Go here to find out more about CAP, CUT AND GROW,
    and to sign our petition:

    http://grassfire.com/129/petition.asp?ref_id=500064

    + + I believe we can rescue our nation

    Friends, I want to be clear. I have not lost hope.
    In fact, in light of what just happened in Massachusetts,
    it is clear that the American people are informed and ready
    to get our nation back on track.

    But we will not survive another TEN YEARS of out-of-control
    government spending. Rome was destroyed by government debt
    which led to hyper-inflation, hyper-taxation and hyper-statism.
    History will repeat itself unless we act.

    Thanks for the stand you are taking!

    Steve Elliott
    Grassfire Nation

    P.S. I have posted a footnoted version of this update on
    my ResistNet blog — so you can see precisely where these
    numbers come from. Go here:

    http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/my-take-on-the-obama-budget?RID=20541056

  234. AYE! Remove Soetoro/Obama and every criminal in office as fast as possible to bring the USA back to GOD and back to the Rule Of Law.

    (1) ANYONE can be listed on ANY lease and NOT live in the same area, county, or country where the lease is valid.

    (2) ANYONE can come forward and say they were a roommate to Serial Criminal Barry Soetoro/
    Barack Obama somewhere. This does NOT demonstrate ANY LEGAL authentication of Soetoro’s whereabouts. ANYONE can come forward to try to cover-up for the Serial Criminal Soetoro/Obama’s crimes he has been committing in the USA for years.

    (3) Legal and valid college or university applications and enrollment forms listing the college and/or university classes and grade transcripts, financial aid records, and the personal I.D. citizenship documents submitted to ALL of the colleges or universities Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama II claims to have attended can legally be accepted as evidence where Soetoro/Obama attended a college or a university.

    Question: Why does Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama II literally have ALL of his personal I.D. citizenship and personal history documents and records sealed, forged, lost, or scrubbed inside of the USA?

    The answer is very clear and obvious: Because Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama II does NOT have legal USA I.D. documents and records to produce. Soetoro/Obama hides his forged, fake, fraudulent, and illegal documentation FROM The USA Sovereign American People for FEAR OF THE AMERICAN People because Obama is very fearful that he will be arrested, indicted, exposed publicly, and punished severely for his massive outrageous crimes he is committing in the USA against ALL 307 + Million USA Sovereign USA Citizens!

    A person with 100% legal & 100% faithful & true USA personal I. D. documents & records will OBVIOUSLY come forward when running for political office and will be happy to show American citizens their personal USA I.D.’s without hesitation when asked to provide historical personal information to the Sovereign American citizen public.

    A person who does NOT have 100% legal personal USA I.D. documents and records will seal them, hide them, forge them, and scrub them, and may bribe people to make them go missing, if this person is a criminal, exactly like Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama II is doing…. if, like Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama II, this person wants to try to protect and prevent him/herself from being arrested and indicted for the massive crimes he or she is committing in the USA, exactly like Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama II is doing in the USA.

    In Soetoro/Obama’s case, even though this very Insane Psychopath Sociopath Deliberate Constant Liar Madman Barack Obama II sealed, forged, scrubbed, and tried to hide and to lose every paper trail about himself, there is enough of a 100% LEGAL paper trail on Obama that Many Sovereign American USA Citizen’s have collected as legal evidence against the Serial Criminal Insane Scam Artist Madman Soetoro/Obama that EASILY exposes Barack Obama II/Barry Soetoro as having 100% Completely MANY FRAUDULENT, ILLEGAL, & FORGED FEDERAL and STATE DOCUMENTS that clearly highlights and showcases MASSIVE FELONIES being committed by Soetoro/Obama, that will put Obama in prison for life, and that can have Soetoro/Obama even through the USA court system executed legally in the USA for treason!

    EXPOSE DAILY Soetoro/Obama’s crimes everywhere!

    Soetoro/Obama is afraid of this, and this is how he will be brought down by the Sovereign American USA people and by The Living Creator – GOD ALMIGHTY – The Most Holy Trinity, In Lord Jesus Christ’s Holy Name!

    I predict Soetoro/Obama will NOT finish one 4 year term of office and that he will be held 100% Accountable & 100% Responsible for the Massive Crimes he is committing in the USA by the Sovereign American USA Citizens during his short term of office, and that Soetoro/Obama will be severely punished by GOD and by humanity for his massive crimes. Many other people will be going down with Soetoro/Obama too who are currently holding office.

    The Living Creator, GOD ALMIGHTY – The Most Holy Trinity, and the Sovereign American Citizens under GOD have power to govern in truth, virtues, wisdom, justice, righteousness, and holiness, NOT the corrupt USA Federal Government.

  235. Beck is speaking about birthers

  236. He mentioned Berg first.

  237. Just ME, I just went over to that Perry link and found he is raling against global warming and the epa. They have already labeled Medina a kook.
    Sometimes I feel like we,the american people are being lead into those gas chambers in Austwitz thinking we were all going to get a nice shower but instead get the gas turned on. This is exactly what the globalists want.

    Plus we have the like of Glenn Beck lying on a regulary basis to us. It is scarey times.

  238. PRWH – PF at 5:26 p.m.

    Greece is bankrupt and 100% of their GDP (Gross Domestic Product) as a nation is all begin paid monthly to cover the intereste rates only for the 53 billion dollars of national debt Greece is currently carrying.

    Today Greece has a 125% inflation rate on its currency. There are some countries that are today saying they are willing to try to bail out and loan Greece the 53 billion dollars it needs to keep from being completely shut down in bankruptcy as a nation that will occur in April 2010, if no countries will lend money in a bail out for Greece’s national debt.

    The United States Of America is today at 80% inflation rate on our currency. In 2 to 3 years 100% of the USA’s GDP will have to go to simply pay the interest rate on the trillions of dollars in debt that the USA is in.

    It would take most countries in the world to have to turn over their own countries GDP’s to the USA government if countries were to try to bail out the USA from our massive debt. Obviously many countries of the world can not, and will not do this for the USA.

    There are no strong countries who will come to the aid of bailing out the USA from the future and near financial meltdown and financial collapse we Americans are facing in America in the very near future due to the USA having to pay interest on the trillions of dolloars of debt we are already in.

    Usurper Soetoro/Obama is proposing and demanding the USA spend even MORE trillions of USA dollars in his insane budget in out-of-control insanity.

    The United States Of America is being destroyed and imploded economically deliberately by Usurper Soetoro/Obama and he MUST be removed. We The People will have to ask the Living Creator GOD for the answers of what we can do as the American people since Congress, and the Executive branch of the USA gov. do NOT have any answers to save the USA and are bring the USA to a fast economic ruin.

    ONLY the Living Creator – GOD ALMIGHTY – the Most Holy Trinity, and We The People can STOP the coming complete economic collapse of the USA due to the unsustainable interest rates that the USA will have to pay out creating hyper-inflation and the collapse of the USA currency, due to the out-of-control debt burden that the USA owes to foreign countries.

    The insane out-of-control spending in the USA especially in the last 1 year, and during the past several decades have brought America to this point. We are having today in the USA serious economic disasters.

    ALL spending in the Federal USA Gov. MUST come to a halt, and Congressional hearings MUST be held on the out-of-control unsustainable horrendous interest rates and inflation that is facing the USA in the very near future.

  239. I understand the tea party movement is meeting with Michael Steele right now. Does anyone know about this??

  240. Just Me, Do you think the tea party movement is scaring the globalists and this is why they are trying to integrate the tea party into the republican party?? The tea party folks are really de centralized so its hard to get them all on board. I expect a complete failure of the govt. soon as the globalist will not just take a NO from us, they will break us by having a depression unlike no others then when they ask for the Super Hiway we will all be out there building it so we can eat.

  241. They have already awarded the money for the segment of the highway in dallas/ftworth area. Its called the “north tarrant express”. The contract was awarded Jan 09′ with stimulus money. Thats why we have no jobs. The stimulus is for building the _________ highway.

  242. being paid – not begin paid, interest – not intereste, dollars not dolloars, bringing – not bring. Typos so sorry. I will proofread and use spellcheck, God Willing.

  243. Connie,

    Perry is a hypocrite. He has allowed the Nazi Green radicals to infiltrate the capital of Texas. They have installed GE Smart Grid thermostats in commercial buildings (not that there will be any businesses left to worry about). These will be controlled by remote control. The government will CONTROL when you have energy available to you and how much. Legislation has already been passed in Austin if you’re wanting to sell your home you have to have a GREEN INSPECTION before you can sell it. He has passed legislation called a franchise tax on businesses which is basically a state income tax. The list is long for anyone that wants to see what is has done since being in office. I haven’t had a chance to read the article yet, that Venice posted. But, know he is THE ESTABLISHMENT. Perry has been in that position for 9 years. Time for him to go.

    They all lie. Case in point – “O”. He says one thing and does something else.

  244. Connie,

    Sorry, I just saw your other post – trying to catch up here. Of course they are afraid of the Tea Party movement. IMHO that is why Beck stepped in and took over. Controlled opposition.

    The best way to lead the opposition is to control the opposition.

    The Dems and Repubs were 1 party – under the guise of a 2 party system. The Tea Party movement has blown the lid on their cover. Look at how Dick Armey was resurrected from the “dead” and stepped in to take over with his Tea Party Nation Express and the road trip. It’s not hard to see they’re running scared.

  245. Debris, metal, wires, insulation, etc BUT NO PEOPLE. No bodies, no blood, no heads, no legs, etc.

    DID THEY EVAPORATE ALSO?
    Or maybe the crash deactivated them?

    Just wondering out loud…..

  246. Starla,

    I heard today that the American taxpayer dollar may actually have gone to help prop up Greece. I wouldn’t doubt it. Our money is anywhere but here taking care of folks on this continent.

  247. Peter,

    keep wondering out loud!

    I love what The South always says. “I have a brain, I can think for myself. My government would rather I didn’t.”

  248. TO:
    citizenwells // February 16, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    He mentioned Berg first.
    \\\\\\\ ////////////

    Was this on radio or TV, any links??

  249. Will they ever interview someone with the proper knowledge? Now Hayworth. Stop the ignorance already. No person except a natural born citizen, OR a citizen of the United States at the time of this adoption of the Constitution. Natural born citizens are those born in a country to citizen parents. Dad was not an American Citizen. Pretty frikken simple!!!!!

  250. No one has mentioned the various and assorted bonds that were most likely looted along with the gold that was kept in the WTC. A paper bond is only good if it is intact. The fire and collapse of the building was a convenient way to cover up the removal of bonds that could have been worth billions of dollars.

    The Bush/Clinton dynasty has been looting this country for years. Bush and Cheney knew BHO was not qualified to be POTUS but they were silent. You can be sure that Cheney has seen BHOs birth certificate and you can be sure that BHO has been part of this NWO group for many years.

    Many of our elected officials are evil and the only thing they fear is goodness and Godliness. It’s not complicated. Evil worships death and destruction, good honors life and worships God. We will only be able to tell which side one is on by how they behave.

    Stealing property/money/life, taking away a man’s ability to work, creating chaos, enslaving people and limiting their free will are all evil ways and they must be confronted at every turn. Evil will flee in the presence of goodness, if there are enough good people to confront evil.

    I live in Texas and am voting for Medina. I was a newcomer to listening to Beck, but when I heard him interview Medina, I was convinced evil had tried to ambush good (Medina). So, don’t worry folks, God is in control. We shall see what happens when evil goes up against good in the voting booth.

  251. Some sick people out there…. especially on the left.

  252. TO:

    Margie // February 16, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Will they ever interview someone with the proper knowledge? Now Hayworth. Stop the ignorance already. No person except a natural born citizen, OR a citizen of the United States at the time of this adoption of the Constitution. Natural born citizens are those born in a country to citizen parents. Dad was not an American Citizen. Pretty frikken simple!!!!!

    \\\\\\\\\\\\ /////////////

    The strategy is pretty clear and organized ANYTIME they see anyone that may blow this thing wide open they bring them on to knock them down and ridicule them. They want to discredit and fool the citizens at the same time scare anyone else that may be try the same thing.

    They are ACCOMPLICCES TO THE FRAUD, the ENSLAVED PRESS.

  253. CW-I watched Beck & heard his references to the birthers & I think he mentioned the truthers, also. I am open & considering almost anything, at this point. Alex Jones just may have a point, but I am still unsure about everything…just taking it all in, & trying to digest it all, store it & hopefully be able to understand & form a an opinion about it all one day.

  254. #

    ticktock // February 16, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    JS, I’m sooo not interested in debunking. In fact, Todd Beamer is code for an alien implant. Just look at his last name. He was beamed up by Scotty to the Mars alien station where his brain was replaced by a reptilian replica of Algore and is no doubt walking among us as the enemy working day and night convincing us that the planes that rammed into the buildings were a figment of our imagination and that all the passengers aren’t really sitting up there on mars somewhere as reptilian slaves.

    Nope, if people refuse to believe, I’m not gonna try to persuade them.
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    ticktock…I’m with you….it’s the battle of experts……no one really knows for sure and if you ever read Let’s Roll by Beamer’s wife then you would know that there are plenty of witnesses to the crash of 93….many of them phoned home……Beam me up Scotty!!!

  255. NancyDrew,

    Since no one has the corner on “truth”, one must always be open. Its the approximation to a closer truth that counts.

  256. #

    Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Wow, this blog will lose viewers and commentators faster than the twin towers fell if this truther crap sticks around.
    ******************************************

    AMEN Greg!

  257. GBAmerica // February 16, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    Kim,12:24pm
    Remember what Jesus said in Matthew 24 4-8KJV

    I like this one better…
    Psalms 109:8

    Look it up.

    *****************
    CENSUS is a gimmick to PASS taxpayer Money to those that Pimp for Obama ACORN.

    It’s basically a transfer of Wealth that needs to be SHUT DOWN and

    Re: cnesus :I haven’t figured why census taking is necessary….counties have all data needed.

  258. #

    connie // February 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    What we have to realize this agenda 21 is part of the “combine”. Both democrats and republicans alike have been bought off by the globalists to move forward their agenda. I know there are many here who like Bush, but certainly you have to realize that he and his father are part of the NWO. I am also beginning to think Bill Clinton is to, but I don’t believe Hillary is and this is why. She would have been Potus had she agreed. She knew Bill’s Nafta was bad news and she said she would try and fix that which pist off the globalists. THey want what they want and that’s it.
    ******************************************

    Connie…..they all are….some are Bilderbergs….like the Clintons……some are with the brother group……Trilateral Commission…..all were promoted and used by the rich and powerful…..just like the FRAUD is being used now…..Not very well….but he is being used…..it just so happens his agenda is being stopped by the tea party movement!!!

  259. I kind of wondered from the start why Fox put Beck on right after b.o. took office. I’m not suggesting anything here. Just wondering & keeping an open mind before I have an opinion either way. Things are really getting intense, IMO.

  260. NancyDrew // February 16, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Has this been posted yet? JD Hayworth cites identity theft fears in his request for obama citizenship papers.

    ****************************************

    Hayworth just lost…..he needs to tell the truth….started off lying from the get go….thanks Nancy for the video!

  261. Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Wow, this blog will lose viewers and commentators faster than the twin towers fell if this truther crap sticks around.
    ******************************************
    Amen….Maybe CW could put up a separate section just for THAT discussion. It takes too much time to blow by all those posts

  262. Starla // February 16, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I’ve been reading about bankrupt America for two years and the feel of things is this:
    congress members need to get great security for the word is they will be the first the mobs go for.

    Bankers and Wall Street are next.

    Ceos of big businesses are next.

  263. Greg Goss // February 16, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Wow, this blog will lose viewers and commentators faster than the twin towers fell if this truther crap sticks around.
    ******************************************

    JSmith said : AMEN Greg!
    ******************************************
    Hmmmmm, I doubt that. We’ve been discussing this off and on for way over a year now, and the same folks are still here (could have lost 1, and could have gained 1).

    I’d bet a hundred, that CW’s site hasn’t suffered a bit. I’d also bet the site statistics show an increase over the past two years.

    If I’m wrong, I’m sure CW will correct me.

    You guys go back to sleep, we’ll wake you up when the truth comes out (as if it hasn’t already)

    I choose to think for myself, but my Government would rather I didn’t.

  264. We must all keep an open mind. NOTHING can be ruled out anymore. We have to sort out everything to discover what the TRUTH is. We all have to work together or we will be divided.

  265. Oh Really, dissing the birthers again, Sara to the rescue of the birthers “they have first Amendment rights and are entitled to the answers to their questions.

  266. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/81213-52-say-obama-doesnt-deserve-reelection-

    It’s not the content of this poll that is important, it’s the fact that once again the arrows are being pointed at Obama.

    Right now he is being hit from all sides. No coincidence.

  267. #

    connie // February 16, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Just ME, I just went over to that Perry link and found he is raling against global warming and the epa. They have already labeled Medina a kook.
    Sometimes I feel like we,the american people are being lead into those gas chambers in Austwitz thinking we were all going to get a nice shower but instead get the gas turned on. This is exactly what the globalists want.

    Plus we have the like of Glenn Beck lying on a regulary basis to us. It is scarey times.
    ***********************************************************

    Insane. Equating government sanctioned mass targeted extermination of the Jews; with having to weed out truth from fiction from a candidate’s
    political speak’ or the ‘lines’ fed through a television pundit. Depraved.

    The plan of the gas chamber of Krema II in Auschwitz. The air extraction system (which the Holocaust deniers claim didn’t exist) is clearly shown: Entlüftungskanal means air extraction duct, and Belüftung means ventilation. Remains of the air-extraction system can still be seen in the ruins.
    http://www.phdn.org/histgen/schmitz/plan01.html

    An inventory for the underground floor of Krema III in Auschwitz, specifying the presence of 14 shower heads (Brausen) and one gas-tight door (Gasdichtetür) in the gas chamber (Leichenkeller 1). This room, sometimes referred to as a “gassing cellar” in the SS-correspondence, had fake shower heads installed to mislead the victims into believing they were going to be washed. Leichenkeller 2 (referred to many times as an “undressing room” in SS-correspondence), doesn’t have a gas tight door neither shower heads.
    http://www.phdn.org/histgen/schmitz/invntry.html

  268. The South,

    You may have noticed at the time a few months ago that CW said he rec’d 10,000 hits in one day. Even if that was a one off, that’s hardly an indication of a declining audience.

  269. Nancy Drew, I agree its unusual that they put Beck on right after Obama took office. It is for the counterpunch or to keep everyone agitated so we don’t know what they are doing behind the scenes. This is a consorted effort to push thru their one world govt. Time is close, we must be viligent. I am going to vote Medina, I just wish we had about 500 more just like her to replace the mobsters that are running our govt. now.

    What I really expect is a complete collapse of our economy. Just read “Shock Doctrine”, it shows you how the globalist’s control the peasants/workers. It is exactly what is happening right now.

  270. jdjb, We are being taken over by globalist who could care less about us. They have gone to foriegn countries and dissemated their economies as research. “Shock Doctrine” If you think this can’t happen to us just because we are Americans, think again. This whole political admosphere is a whole lot more than politics…… its the one world government. I am sorry you were shocked at my analogy, but it was my true feelings as this super highway comes to pass in America and more of our jobs are lost. What else can a person think?

  271. Venice,

    CW’s site doesn’t suffer one bit because we have these discussions (although some would like to manipulate him into thinking otherwise by making such posts)

    This place is full of ideas, informations, agreements, and disagreements.

    One day everyone is on 9/11 and the next their on Chicago corruption or Obama’s birth cert.

    Trying to shut down free speech is not what makes a place like this flourish.

    Everyday we learn something here; whether it be another 9/11 truth or fallacy, or another cure to cancer, or uncover another corrupt politician.

    This place is a breeding ground for information (good, bad, right, or wrong), always has been and I hope it always is.

  272. The South,

    Agreed.

  273. NancyDrew // February 16, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    I went off on someone yesterday about Illegal aliens……send them home with a bus ticket vs. 12 years of education, 18 years of food stamps, and housing, low income loans, interest free credit cards…you get the point..

    Now, I pledged to myself I would not go here again, but here goes..

    Nancy Drew….my husband is the sweetest most caring man I know…he is not into all this ‘conspiracy’ bunk we call it….and naive is his middle name…..

    However, when I showed him the hole in the Pentagon BEFORE IT FELL THROUGH, immediately after the event….he looked at me and said……I’LL BE DAMNED!!! HOW DID A 747 GET THROUGH THAT LITTLE HOLE??? THE WINGS COULDN’T EVEN GET THROUGH THERE…..I APOLOGIZE HONEY.

    (okay, I lied about the ‘honey’ part)

  274. Also, maybe some one can explain this:

    How does a jumbo jet the size of a football field leave a hole in the ground the size of a one car garage?

    Eye witnesses said the hole in PA was approx. 20 ft x 10 ft.

    No bodies, no blood, no airplane parts, no seats, no engines, nothing.

    Zilch-Zip-Nadda.

    Maybe the Ewoks showed up and stole all that stuff before emergency vehicles arrived.

  275. South, Its pretty amazing the info I have been reading here about 9/11. It really makes you think.
    I imagine since things are not boding well in D.C. because the internet has awoken a sleeping giant I expect we will have another false flag attack, don’t you. I think it will be New York again as it looks like chicken little Beck is in California.

  276. **NEW OPEN THREAD**

  277. connie,

    Yes, I anticipate another false flag soon.

    Hopefully I’m wrong.

  278. don in california

    connie // February 16, 2010 at 8:53 pm
    ———————-
    And it may be soon, just look at all the elites going to California…. Beck, o’rielly etc.

  279. >>>NancyDrew // February 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    We must all keep an open mind. NOTHING can be ruled out anymore. We have to sort out everything to discover what the TRUTH is.<<

    Couldn't have put it better myself. I look out on our government with new internet eyes, and I see things that suggest the US government isn't; for the people, or of the people, but has become something else. The thing is, true patriots SHOULD QUESTION EVERYTHING and Jefferson said this to be true.

  280. Constant White Heat Lightening: Inspiration Truth & Wisdom & Virtues Striking

    Crystal @ 7:09 p.m -

    Great Comment Crystal!! I 100% Concur with your statement.

  281. Constant White Heat Lightening

    Thank you for posting this Great, Uplifting, and Inpiring post Mr. CW – Citizens Wells.

  282. Constant White Heat Lightening

    Thank you for posting this Great, Uplifting, and Very Inspiring Post, Mr. CW – Citizen Wells.

  283. Hello guys,

    My name is Charlie and I am from Stirling. I have in recent past discovered this forum and I like it very much.
    I am a little bit shy so I will not write much about me but maybe when I will get confortable, you will get to know me better!
    My main hobbies are painting and watching movies. I also love outdoor activites but the temperature has been bad for the last weeks or so here in Stirling.

    I was wondering if anyone else here is from the UK too?

    I am happy to have joined this forum!
    Cheers! :)

  284. citizenwells

    Ian Thorpe (I believe is the name)
    posts from UK sometimes

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