Mainstream media lies, Far left lies, Congressmen lies, Truth must be spread throughout the land, Iraq, Obama eligibility, Blagojevich trial

Mainstream media lies, Far left lies, Congressmen lies, Truth must be spread

“Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.”…Proverbs  23:9

“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”…Mark Twain?

What I am about to write is much larger than the initial facts I am about to present. The efforts of the mainstream media, the far left, people in power such as congressmen and yes, outside influences, have rivaled the efforts of Big Brother in George Orwell’s “1984″ to replace the truth with lies or remove the truth altogether.

What I am about to write is neither praise or disdain for George W Bush. It is about presenting the truth and dispelling lies. The catalyst for this article was a conversation this morning with a friend, a decent, hard working American. He was concerned about Iraq, our reasons for being there and believed that George W Bush was totally to blame. The following articles were presented early in 2008. The traffic on this blog was dramatically lower then. Perhaps more people will read this.

From Citizen Wells February 23, 2008.

Below are some of the justifications for the Iraq War. What are your reactions to these quotes with 20/20 hindsight? Were we justified to invade Iraq? Were these statements credible and based on credible intelligence? Did Saddam Hussein use weapons of mass destruction? Respond with your comments.

1.  “We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the
stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass
destruction.”  “The chemical weapons Saddam has used and the biological weapons we know he has tested pay no attention to borders and nationalities.”

2.  “If diplomacy runs out, we have reserved the right to use
force and if we do so it will be substantial.”

3.  “No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.”

4.  “What we are doing is so that you all can sleep at night.  I am very proud of what we are doing.  We are the greatest nation in the world and what we are doing is being the indispensable nation, willing to make the world safe for our children and grandchildren, and for nations who follow the rules.”

5.  “Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

6.  “If Saddam can cripple the weapons inspections sytem and get away with it, he would conclude the international community, led by the United States, has simply lost its will.  He would surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction.”

7.  “Earlier today I ordered America’s armed forces to strike
military and security targets in Iraq.  They are joined by British forces.  Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.  While other countires also had weapons of mass desctuction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons
against his own people and against his neighbors.

8.  “Along with Prime minister (Tony)Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.”

9.  “The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi goverment — a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people.”

10.  “But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America’s vital interests, we will do so.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/iraq-war-justification-iraq-war-reasons-can-we-justify-hillary-clinton-john-mccain-barrack-obama/

From Citizen Wells March 9, 2008.

The prior article was referred to.

“This post was a list of 10 quotes regarding Saddam Hussein. I did not provide the source of the quotes at that time. Many people, for whatever reason, believe only George W Bush took the posture indicated in the quotes, when in reality, the entire Clinton administration believed that Saddam Hussein had WMD, had used them on his own people, posed a real threat and that the US was ready to stop him. All of the quotes from the original post came from the Clinton Administration. Below are the original quotes, followed by the source and the dates. Also, below, I have supplied the links to the CNN articles that contain the quotes. Interesting, isn’t it? Think of all the lies that have been told about George W Bush and the acceptance of revisionist history.”

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/01/iraq/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9802/18/town.meeting.folo/

http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

The first article may have been scrubbed. I can find no evidence of it now on CNN. This was posted early in the history of this blog, before I was more aware of internet scrubbing and Orwellian rewrites.

Second article

“U.S. policy on Iraq draws fire in Ohio”

“Albright was drowned out at one point by a group chanting, “One, two, three, four, we don’t want your racist war,” as she tried to explain U.S. policy to the audience of 6,000.

The heckling became so intense at one point that Albright interrupted CNN’s Judy Woodruff and said, “Could you tell those people I’ll be happy to talk to them when this is over. I’d like to make my point.”

Similar outbursts greeted Cohen and Berger as they laid out again a U.S. position that is familiar to those who have followed the building crisis in the media.

They said the United States would prefer to see a peaceful resolution and hopes that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan will make significant progress when he visits with Iraqi officials this weekend.

But if Iraqi President Saddam Hussein doesn’t allow U.N. arms inspectors to have unrestricted access to all weapons sites in Iraq, they reaffirmed that a U.S.-led coalition will respond with military force.”

“”We’ve spent seven years containing him at no loss to U.S. lives,” Cohen said, adding that an attack would reduce the threat of “chemical and biological weapons that will pose a threat to your children and grandchildren for the future.””

“Albright responded, “No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.””

“”As a former university professor,” Albright said, “I suggest, sir, that you study carefully what American foreign policy is. Every one of the violations has been pointed out on what is not right, and I would be happy to spend 50 minutes with you after the forum to explain it.” “

“”What we are doing,” replied Albright, “is so that you all can sleep at night. I am very proud of what we are doing. We are the greatest nation in the world …”

She stopped as the audience rose and applauded.

“… and what we are doing,” she resumed, “is being the indispensable nation, willing to make the world safe for our children and grandchildren, and for nations who follow the rules.””

Third article

“Clinton: Iraq has abused its last chance”

“From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.

The president said Iraq’s refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.

“Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons,” Clinton said.

Operation Desert Fox, a strong, sustained series of attacks, will be carried out over several days by U.S. and British forces, Clinton said.

“Earlier today I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces,” Clinton said.

“Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors,” said Clinton.

Clinton also stated that, while other countries also had weapons of mass destruction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons against his own people and against his neighbors.
‘Without delay, diplomacy or warning’

The Iraqi leader was given a final warning six weeks ago, Clinton said, when Baghdad promised to cooperate with U.N. inspectors at the last minute just as U.S. warplanes were headed its way.

“Along with Prime Minister (Tony) Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning,” Clinton said.

The president said the report handed in Tuesday by Richard Butler, head of the United Nations Special Commission in charge of finding and destroying Iraqi weapons, was stark and sobering.

Iraq failed to cooperate with the inspectors and placed new restrictions on them, Clinton said. He said Iraqi officials also destroyed records and moved everything, even the furniture, out of suspected sites before inspectors were allowed in.

“Instead of inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors,” Clinton said.

“In halting our airstrikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance — not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed,” the president explained.
Strikes necessary to stunt weapons programs

Clinton said he made the decision to strike Wednesday with the unanimous agreement of his security advisors.

Timing was important, said the president, because without a strong inspection system in place, Iraq could rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear programs in a matter of months, not years.

“If Saddam can cripple the weapons inspections system and get away with it, he would conclude the international community, led by the United States, has simply lost its will,” said Clinton. “He would surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction.”

Clinton also called Hussein a threat to his people and to the security of the world.

“The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government — a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people,” Clinton said.

Such a change in Baghdad would take time and effort, Clinton said, adding that his administration would work with Iraqi opposition forces.

Clinton also addressed the ongoing impeachment crisis in the White House.

“Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down,” he said.

“But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America’s vital interests, we will do so.”

 The American people have short memories. This plays into the hands of the Orwellian spin masters.

Why is this so important?

  • The American people must know truth. How else can they make an informed decision.
  • Compare the above reports with what you hear in day to day conversations and from the liars and spin masters.
  • Compare the above with what you have been led to believe about Iraq and now witness how the Blagojevich trial is being spun. Do you believe we are not living “1984?”
  • It is crucial that we continue to inform the American public.
  • The efforts of each person are required. One person can make a difference, especially when there are millions of  “one person.”
  • Share the facts with your friends and associates. Keep it simple. Stick with indisputable facts.

 

Too many people get sucked into arguments that cannot be won. Keep it simple and indisputable.

Obama eligibility.

Why has Obama employed so many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records. If they don’t believe it, let them view the court documents.

Blagojevich trial.

Tell them to read the indictment. For more insight, read the Tony Rezko trial transcripts.

Help inform the American public. Keep it simple and factual.

 

For complete coverage of the Blagojevich trial.

http://citizenwells.com/2010/05/21/blagojevich-trial-complete-coverage-from-citizen-wells/

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12 responses to “Mainstream media lies, Far left lies, Congressmen lies, Truth must be spread throughout the land, Iraq, Obama eligibility, Blagojevich trial

  1. Pingback: Citizen Wells discussions, May 26, 2010, Open Thread, Yes Virginia there is a sanity clause « Citizen WElls

  2. Nancy Peacock

    The truth is slowly coming out as the mainstream media is turning on BO. Larry Sinclair is being vindicated. http://www.larrysinclair.com/

  3. We are so often caught up in the present moment when it comes to events. This compilation of words spoken by both G.W. Bush and Clinton (and those in his administration) serve to remind us just how askewed our memories can become. It seems like such a long time ago, and yet lies are still being spouted in revisionist history.

  4. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    History is written by the winners. USA revisionist history goes back at least to Reconstruction.

    The official story of the War of Northern Aggression (i.e. the “Civil War”) is still the biggest boldest lie of them all. Even with current events, we have not yet achieved that level of deceit.

    On the other hand, it was that situation – the 14th amendment, and the creation of the Government top-down hierarchy, and submergence of states rights – that enabled (caused?) the fiasco we see today.

    Until we thoroughly grasp this, we will not understand the current situation, and thus will not have the knowledge or power to prevail.

    Just sayin’ – - -

  5. The decision to get rid of sadam was made long before anyone heard of George Bush. The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998 was signed by Bill Clinton. It stated that it was the official policy of the US that sadam presented a threat to the security of this country and he was to be disposed of and a democratic government was to replace his regime. The last article in this Act stated the real reason we are there: to help Iraq’s creditors secure payment of Iraq’s debt that sadam repudiated. This is the cause of all wars, they are forclosure actions.

  6. Look I don’t know about the rest of you but I clearly remeber seeing on the MSM many, many dead Kurdish people just laying in the streets from Saddam using nerve gas on his OWN people. There may not have been weapons of mass destuction when we went in there but I saw the dead!!!! I for one am happy the George Bush took out Saddam!!!! I sleep alot better knowing this man is rotting in hell!!!

  7. Interesting that left-leaning Snopes admits the quotes are true but posts one of their longest articles ever to try and mitigate their effect:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

    And, yes, Aja – Halabja, in 1988, is where Saddam ordered an unspeakably horrible chemical attack against his own people (babies, animals, everyone)–more than 5,000 people died in less than an hour

    http://www.halabja.org/

  8. I am Australian. I have an interest in this subject because our former Prime Minister, John Howard committed us to the action to take out the Saddam regime. I speak as someone who was against the military action, but also as someone who has wised up since then.

    Like Aja said, I saw the photos of the bodies of the thousands of dead Kurds. Saddam Hussein dropped chemical weapons on the Kurds. Is that not sufficient evidence about what he was planning?

    When the war began, I changed my opposition to support because it became clear to me that the Iraqi people wanted to be freed from Saddam Hussein. The initial response from the people was that of greeting the troops. There was no real armed resistance.

    However, what really makes a difference in my attitude was a reminder of what took place when Timothy McVeigh bombed the Murrah building. That reminder was about John Doe #2 who was not discovered because the FBI stopped their investigation. The description of John Doe #2 matched that of Hussein al Husseini, a former Iraqi soldier and alleged refugee – was he sent by Saddam Hussein as a spy?

    It is this last point, the possible and vital link between Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda and the Murrah building bombing, as well as the first attack on the WTC that has clinched my support for the action that took place, despite my previous misgivings.

    For the past 10 years the Democrats and the fellow travelers have been lying about the facts. John Howard knew something (and John Howard was in Washington D.C. when the Islamists attacked the Pentagon) which John Howard did not convey to the Australian people. Tony Blair knew something that was not conveyed to the British people. The question is: what did they know that they were not telling us… it was something that put all of the pieces together.

    I agree though, that Saddam Hussein was not like the other dictators.

  9. Thank you, CW for this post.

    There seem to quite a few anti-GWB regulars on this very blog site, so I heartily applaud your reminder of historical truths.

    cheers

  10. Free Speech

    Excellent Post!

    My only complaint about President Bush is that he did not go further. As soon as Iraq became stable, we should have invaded Iran and then we would not be facing a prospect of Iran having Nukes with the support of AKAbo.

  11. Free Speech

    Say what Sen Nelson? You wish more Americans were “agitated” about bo’s incompetence like Chris Matthews? Where have you been for the past year, Sen. Nelson?

  12. Free Speech

    Can’t believe Carville sees bo’s Oil Spill incompetence as “political problem” now?

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