Blagojevich trial, US Justice Department corruption, Protecting Obama, Part 4, Patrick Fitzgerald, Blagojevich trial delay and selling of senate seat

Blagojevich trial, US Justice Department corruption, Protecting Obama

Blagojevich trial

Protecting Obama

Part 4

Blagojevich arrest  intentially delayed

 

“I was not going to wait until March or April or May to get it all nice and tidy”

“I think that would be irresponsible.”…Patrick Fitzgerald, December 9, 2008, Blagojevich arrest

Those are interesting statements by Fitzgerald.

The question is, why did Patrick Fitzgerald and the US Justice Department wait until December 2008 to arrest Rod Blagojevich?

The prosecution in the Rod Blagojevich trial rested their case Tuesday, July 13, 2010.

Tony Rezko has not been called to the witness stand. Nor has Stuart Levine. Nor have a host of others with corruption ties to Blagojevich and Obama.

The US Justice Department had plenty of evidence indicting Rod Blagojevich by 2006. Why did the US Justice Department wait until December 2008, after the election, to arrest Blagojevich?

Who made the decision to wait to indict Blagojevich?

Was Patrick Fitzgerald involved in this decision?

I think that would be irresponsible.” Yes, Fitzgerald, I agree.

From the Blagojevich complaint December 7, 2008.

“From in or about 2002 to the present, in Cook County, in the Northern District of Illinois, defendants did, conspire with each other and with others to devise and participate in a scheme to defraud the State of Illinois and the people of the State of Illinois of the honest services of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, in furtherance of which the mails and interstate wire communications would be used, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1341,1343, and 1346; all in violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 1349.
“Since approximately 2003, the government has been investigating allegations of illegal activity occurring in State of Illinois government as part of the administration of Governor ROD BLAGOJEVICH. As further detailed below, the investigation has developed evidence that: (a) beginning not later than in or about 2002, ROD BLAGOJEVICH has conspired with multiple individuals, including, beginning not later than in or about October 2008, JOHN HARRIS, to devise and participate in a scheme, which used and contemplated the use of the mails and interstate wire communications, to defraud the State of Illinois and its residents of the honest services of ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS by corruptly using the office of Governor of the State of Illinois to obtain and attempt to obtain personal gain, including financial gain, for ROD BLAGOJEVICH and third parties with whom he is associated;”
Blagojevich’s involvement in corruption did not begin in 2008.

“From in or about 2002 to the present, in Cook County”

“Since approximately 2003, the government has been investigating allegations of illegal activity occurring in State of Illinois government as part of the administration of Governor ROD BLAGOJEVICH.”

http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/pr/chicago/2008/pr1209_01a.pdf

From the Stuart Levine Indictment, May 9, 2005. (The SPECIAL MARCH 2004 GRAND JURY charges)
“CHICAGO – Three Chicago area executives – one of them a former member of the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board, which controls medical facility construction projects in Illinois, and one a managing director of Bear Stearns & Co., an investment firm that arranges financing for public works projects in Illinois – were indicted on federal charges for allegedly engaging in insider-dealing, influence-peddling, kickbacks and corruption involving their private interests and public duties, federal officials announced today. One defendant, Stuart Levine, a lawyer and businessman, allegedly engaged in a fraud scheme to obtain a total of at least $9.5 million for himself and certain associates,

Stuart Levine – 19 counts of mail fraud, 4 counts of wire fraud, 2 counts of misapplication of funds, 2 counts of money laundering and one count of extortion – a businessman whose interests included S.L. Investment Enterprises, L.P., and a former member of the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board (Planning Board), a state commission appointed by the Governor that grants or denies a permit, known as a “Certificate of Need” (CON), to build hospitals, physician offices or other medical facilities statewide. Levine was also a member of the board of trustees of Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science, formerly known as Finch University of Health Sciences/Chicago Medical School (Chicago Medical School or CMS) in North Chicago, and he was chairman of its real estate committee. He was also a trustee of the Northshore Supporting Organization (NSO), a charitable trust that supported Chicago Medical School;”
One of many ties to Rod Blagojevich

“a former member of the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board (Planning Board), a state commission appointed by the Governor”

http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/indict/2005/us_v_levine.pdf

Timeline is revealing

Patrick Fitzgerald was aware of Blagojevich’s corruption in 2003

“Pamela Meyer Davis had been trying to win approval from a state health planning board for an expansion of Edward Hospital, the facility she runs in a Chicago suburb, but she realized that the only way to prevail was to retain a politically connected construction company and a specific investment house.

Instead of succumbing to those demands, she went to the FBI and U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald in late 2003 and agreed to secretly record conversations about the project.”

Read more

June 7, 2004: Stuart Levine, a longtime Republican reappointed to the powerful Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board, abruptly resigns on the eve of several important hospital expansion votes. The revelation is the first indication that the Blagojevich administration is under federal criminal investigation.

June 27, 2004: The Tribune discloses that an official for one hospital seeking permission to expand was wearing a federal bug during meetings in an effort to expose extortion attempts by Levine and others for contributions to Blagojevich.

July 2, 2004: Levine resigns from his seat on the board of the state Teachers’ Retirement System. It remains undisclosed that federal authorities had secretly taped Levine’s conversations.

May 9, 2005: Levine is indicted on corruption charges. Federal subpoenas are issued to numerous administration sources, including top Blagojevich fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko

May 20, 2005: The governor’s office acknowledges to the Tribune that Rezko has an ongoing eight-year professional relationship with Patricia Blagojevich’s home-based real estate brokerage, River Realty Inc.

Sept 15, 2005: Prominent Democratic fundraiser Joseph Cari and a former lawyer for the state’s teacher’s pension board pleads guilty in an extortion scheme that steered state pension business to favored companies in exchange for campaign contributions to a high-ranking public official described in court documents only as “Public official A.”

Oct. 25, 2005: The Tribune discloses a federal grand jury investigation into the alleged political hiring practices of the Blagojevich administration, including the governor’s top hiring aide, Joseph Cini.

Sept. 10, 2006: The Tribune reveals that the FBI is investigating allegations by a one-time Blagojevich family friend that she had concerns her state job may have come in return for a $1,500 personal check her husband wrote to one of Blagojevich’s children.

Sept. 17, 2006: The Tribune reports that the Blagojevich administration skirted state hiring rules to give jobs to at least 360 people whose applications were sent through back channels by the governor’s offices and politically connected officials.

Aug. 5, 2006: The Tribune reports that Levine is cooperating with the federal investigation of state government.

Oct. 11, 2006: Blagojevich confidant and top fundraiser Rezko is indicted on federal charges he sought millions of dollars in kickbacks and campaign donations from firms seeking state business.

Oct. 27, 2006: Political insider Levine pleads guilty in a scheme to squeeze millions of dollars from firms seeking state business. In court papers, federal authorities spell out allegations that Rezko and another schemer, identified by sources as Blagojevich confidant and top fundraiser Christopher Kelly, were using their influence for corrupt purposes.

Read more

Before the Tony Rezko trial began in March 2008, the USDOJ and the FBI had more than enough to arrest Blagojevich and plenty on Obama. Stuart Levine had already provided the information revealed in the trial and more.
Patrick Fitzgerald obtains more details of Obama’s ties to Rezko and corruption in 2007.

Kenneth J Conner was a whistleblower in the Rezko Obama lot sale transaction. Conner was interviewed by the FBI in 2007.

From the Washington Times, November 4, 2008.
“A former Illinois real estate specialist says FBI agents have questioned him about a Chicago property that had been bought by convicted felon Tony Rezko’s wife and later sold to the couple’s next-door neighbor, Sen. Barack Obama.

The real estate specialist, Kenneth J. Conner, said bank officials replaced an appraisal review he prepared on the property and FBI agents were investigating in late 2007 whether the Rezko-Obama deal was proper.

“Agents and I talked about payoff, bribe, kickback for a long time, though it took them only a short number of minutes of talking with me while looking at the appraisal to acknowledge what they already seemed to know: The Rezko lot was grossly overvalued,” Mr. Conner told The Washington Times Monday.

“Rezko paid the asking price on the same day Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price to the same seller for his adjacent mansion,” he said. “This begs the question of payoff, bribe, kickback.””

Read more

I have had many conversations with Mr. Conner, on and off the record.
By delaying the arrest of Blagojevich, two important things occurred.

More harm was done to the citizens of Illinois.

Obama was spared prosecution and association with crime figures. This allowed Obama to win the election.

Before the Rezko trial ended, the Illinois senate attempted a recall against Blagojevich.

Why wasn’t Blagojevich arrested by then?

May 2, 2008
“SPRINGFIELD—The Illinois Senate on Thursday narrowly defeated a measure aimed at giving voters a chance to recall Gov. Rod Blagojevich, but lawmakers on both sides of the issue blasted the embattled governor during a debate that raised statehouse tensions to a new level.”

Read more

Here are just a few bits of testimony from the Rezko trial. The government had this information many months before.

March 21, 2008

“Stuart Levine thought he had hit the jackpot when he teamed up with Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the fundraiser for Gov. Rod Blagojevich who seemed to be able to get the administration to do anything he wanted. Levine’s third day on the stand at Rezko’s corruption trial was a sometimes wandering exploration of how Levine and Rezko exploited that immense clout in a variety of schemes to allegedly line their pockets.

“I have never been in a better position than I am right now,” Levine was heard bragging on a government wiretap. “Part of the reason is because there’s never been such tight control of the central apparatus. This guy is making decisions ? and can get anything done that he wants done.””
March 19, 2008

“But Blagojevich’s name has been mentioned often. It was brought up at least 30 times Wednesday morning by Stuart Levine, the government’s star witness against Rezko.

At one point, Levine described a flight from New York that he shared with Blagojevich Oct. 29, 2003. Levine had chartered the plane to ferry Blagojevich and others to a series of fundraisers.

On the return to Chicago, Levine said he took the opportunity to thank Blagojevich for re-appointing him to a seat on a state hospital regulatory board that prosecutors now say he and Rezko had corrupted to extort kickbacks from firms seeking regulatory approval.

Levine said the governor responded, “Never discuss any state board with me, discuss them with either Tony Rezko or Chris Kelly.” Kelly, along with Rezko, was a top fundraiser for Blagojevich as well as a close friend.

Then Levine said Blagojevich added: “But you stick with us and you’ll do very well for yourself.”

Asked by a prosecutor to elaborate, Levine said, “I took that to mean you have an opportunity to make a lot of money.””

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story-7,0,5224754.htmlstory

This is important!

Even if the USDOJ was waiting for the Rezko trial to end. It ended in June 2008, well before the election.

Obviously they did not need Rezko’s testimony.
It is obvious from the above that the feds had plenty on Blagojevich.

Now read remarks made by Fitzgerald and the USDOJ.

Fitzgerald aggressively prosecuted Republicans

Former Gov. George Ryan December 31, 2003

“Mr. Fitzgerald announced that he was prosecuting former Gov. George Ryan, a Republican, in a scandal that had been swirling around long before Mr. Fitzgerald got here and that many people thought would never touch the most powerful politicians in Illinois. But there Mr. Fitzgerald was, a week before Christmas, ticking off the details of a 91-page indictment against Mr. Ryan, seemingly from memory.”
Through a spokeswoman, Mr. Fitzgerald declined to be interviewed for this article. Instead, the office issued the four-sentence release. ”Mr. Fitzgerald will become engaged on the matter immediately,” the release said. ”Consistent with the usual practice concerning investigations, Mr. Fitzgerald does not intend to comment any further.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/31/us/man-in-the-news-an-independent-prosecutor-patrick-j-fitzgerald.html?ref=patrick_j_fitzgerald&pagewanted=2
Fitzgerald did not wait years to go after Libby and Rove.

“It was at the insistence of Rove’s lawyer, Donald Luskin, that Rove went back and re-examined his call logs and discovered the call to Cooper. Rove presented that information to the Grand Jury and the astonished Fitzgerald whose team had missed it.

But curiously, Fitzgerald attempted to use this disclosure to accuse Rove of being misleading in earlier testimony where he had failed to recall the phone conversation.

It became clear to Rove that Fitzgerald wasn’t looking for a violation of law in the Plame case but to set a perjury trap and carve another notch on his belt by bagging a top White House honcho.”

http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/06/18/karl-roves-lessons-learned/

MAY 9, 2005
Stuart Levine Indictment

“Individuals who serve on public boards or boards or private institutions and charities must serve the interests of the public or the institution and not steal for themselves,” Mr. Fitzgerald said. “Beyond owing basic duties of honesty and integrity, hospital Planning Board members play an important role in providing access to health care while containing costs. The indictment charges that Levine instead sold out his duties and gave out state approvals and hospital contracts on the basis of ‘who you know’ and worse, ‘who you pay,’” he added.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/indict/2005/us_v_levine.pdf
Levine pleads guilty October 11, 2006
“Levine, 60, of Highland Park, a lawyer who also served on the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board (Planning Board), was charged in the same counts as Rezko in the superseding indictment. Levine, whose attorney, Jeffrey Steinback, authorized the government to disclose that Levine is cooperating with the government, is scheduled to plead guilty in the TRS case on Oct. 27 before U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve.”
““This indictment describes a frenzy of corrupt scheming, particularly in April and May 2004, in which political insiders sought to manipulate the activities of two state boards to fleece investment firms and individuals. The defendants and their associates put the word out loud and clear: you have to pay to play in Illinois,” Mr. Fitzgerald said.”

http://www.justice.gov/usao/iln/pr/chicago/2006/pr1011_01.pdf

Blagojevich arrest December 9, 2008
“Fitzgerald said, “We make no allegations” that Obama was aware of any alleged scheming by Blagojevich.”

“Fitzgerald called the corruption charges against Blagojevich “a truly new low.””

“Robert Grant, FBI special agent in charge of the Chicago office, characterized Illinois’ place in the pantheon of political corruption.

“If it isn’t the most corrupt state in the United States, it’s certainly one hell of a competitor,” Grant said. “Even the most cynical agents in our office were shocked.””
“Fitzgerald said the investigation into Blagojevich continues, but authorities acted today to avoid further harm taking place.

“I was not going to wait until March or April or May to get it all nice and tidy” and bring charges, he said. “I think that would be irresponsible.””

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/us-attorney-fitzgerald-press-conference-blagojevich.html

It is apparent to me that a deal was struck with the US Justice Department and that Patrick Fitzgerald was involved in the decision or minimally, was aware of it. The Justice Dept. had more than enough evidence to indict Blagojevich at the latest by the time Stuart Levine agreed to cooperate by August 5, 2006. They actually had enough wiretap evidence without Levine cooperating. Once Blagojevich was too tainted by investigation and Obama was being groomed for the presidency, Obama had to be protected.

Let me make this perfectly clear. I am accusing the US Justice Department of corruption, of being complicit in delaying the arrest of Rod Blagojevich until after the 2008 elections. Furthermore, the Justice Department has purposefully reworded the Indictment and refrained from calling witnesses and revealing testimony that would be further damning for Blagojevich and Obama. This is a criminal act which must be prosecuted.

I am calling for a congressional investigation.

I am also calling for more whistleblowers to come forward. Your identity will be protected.

More US Justice Department corruption coverage to come.

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75 responses to “Blagojevich trial, US Justice Department corruption, Protecting Obama, Part 4, Patrick Fitzgerald, Blagojevich trial delay and selling of senate seat

  1. You decide

    Is U.S. Border Security Worth Putting Endangered Species at Risk?

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  2. It appears that the blago case was about nothing more than protecting bo & discrediting blago so that blago could not incriminate bo.

  3. Ron Paul: The People Can Handle The Truth About Unemployment and Inflation

  4. citizenwells

    Richard (on previous thread)
    I suggest you not post comments if you do not know what the hell
    you are talking about.
    Before I wrote on that subject, I did a lot of research.

  5. CW says,
    “Let me make this perfectly clear. I am accusing the US Justice Department of corruption, of being complicit in delaying the arrest of Rod Blagojevich until after the 2008 elections……..

    I am calling for a congressional investigation.

    I am also calling for more whistleblowers to come forward. Your identity will be protected.
    ******************************
    This is a clarion call for truth and righteousness if there ever was one!

    Now that J. Christian Adams has come forth to reveal what has been going on at DOJ, the pieces began to fall into place and strong suspicions are being confirmed.

    From my past recollections (back in the early 2000’s) I always had the impression that Fitzgerald was one tough cookie as a crime fighter. Now that light has been shed upon criminal events in Illinois, his facade has been ripped away. With Eric Holder at the helm of DOJ there is one grand conspiracy of coverup.

    We must not forget that it was Eric Holder, who as a DOJ attorney, signed off on the 11th hour pardon of the infamous criminal, Marc Rich, as Clinton was leaving office.

    Please stay safe, CW.

  6. The hillbuzz guys are hoping that this scandal is addressed quickly so that the Republicans can find decent replacement candidates and win over the beyond corrupt and inept Democratic candidates. It’s like a moral degeneracy contest that both parties have entered and both seem to be winning. The one thing I dread re: Obama/Man’s Country and the Rev. Wright’s “church” of the down low club is please don’t let them find bodies buried in the basement like John Gacy. Donald Young and others are still unsolved murders, but in Chicago you also have run-aways boys/girls who have just disappeared-I hope that these scandals don’t get worse, and there are not more murder victims buried (in more ways than one) out there. Here is hoping the country gets more candidates like Lt. Col. Allen West WE THE PEOPLE desperately need them.

    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/07/15/case-study-why-the-chicago-young-republicans-sexual-assault-scandal-and-its-cover-up-by-the-chicago-gop-is-yet-another-example-of-republicans-refusing-to-get-in-front-of-a-problem-before-it-metast/

  7. Philo-Publius

    CW, I think the Washington Times should allow you to write a column as you have proven to be an outstanding investigative journalist.

  8. citizenwells

    Thanks Philo

  9. Thanks CW, it is good to see Phil charging ahead. He like Christian Adams is a courageous man.

    citizenwells // July 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Philip J Berg update.

    http://citizenwells.com/2010/07/15/philip-j-berg-lawsuit-update-july-15-2010-us-court-of-appeals-petition-for-rehearing-en-banc-us-justice-dept-attorneys-eric-fleisig-greene-r-craig-lawrence/

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  12. Jacqlyn Smith

    Good info here…..

    Brief for 9 states backs Arizona immigration law

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  13. Rev. Peterson Repudiates NAACP’s Anti-Tea Party Resolution and Blasts Michelle Obama for Embracing Racist Black Group

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  14. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    The hillbuzz guys are hoping that this scandal is addressed quickly so that the Republicans can find decent replacement candidates and win over the beyond corrupt and inept Democratic candidates. It’s like a moral degeneracy contest that both parties have entered and both seem to be winning. The one thing I dread re: Obama/Man’s Country and the Rev. Wright’s “church” of the down low club is please don’t let them find bodies buried in the basement like John Gacy. Donald Young and others are still unsolved murders, but in Chicago you also have run-aways boys/girls who have just disappeared-I hope that these scandals don’t get worse, and there are not more murder victims buried (in more ways than one) out there. Here is hoping the country gets more candidates like Lt. Col. Allen West WE THE PEOPLE desperately need them.
    **************************************

    Word on Street in Nashville is that boCohorts have been cremating their victims. In addition to covering up for Pedophiles.

  15. Free Speech @ 1:02 pm
    “Word on Street in Nashville is that boCohorts have been cremating their victims. In addition to covering up for Pedophiles.”
    Dr. Robert Stein was the Cook County Medical Examiner during the horrible Gacy revelations, he had to make the sad announcements on TV, every night after work it was another body found in the crawl space under the home, it sickened him as well as all of Chicago, and America.
    Being a former Chicagoan I trust the word on the street more than I would any politician from there. Any idea how they get away with this in Nashville? Death certificates, just smuggle the poor victims in in the dead of night? If that is the word on the street, many people must know what’s up.
    under the watchful eye of Dr. Stein. On Friday, December 22, 1978, Gacy finally confessed to police that he killed at least thirty people and buried most of …
    members.tripod.com/ol_dirty_paul69/theabyssofthemind/id5.html

  16. Philo-Publius

    Latino Republicans object to lawsuit against SB1070

    http://tucsoncitizen.com/the-cholla-jumps/2010/07/13/latino-republicans-object-to-lawsuit-against-sb1070/

    They must be racists too.

  17. http://www.breitbart.tv/carville-slams-obama-administration-on-moratorium/

    In yet another public repudiation of the Obama Administration, Democratic Strategist and close Clinton ally James Carville came down hard on the oil drilling moratorium decision.
    “The people have been let down.”

  18. This is creepy.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/senators-seek-probe-into-bps-role-in-release-of-lockerbie-bomber/

    A group of senators want the State Department to investigate an alleged link between BP and the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

  19. PHOTOSHOPPED PICS OF BLAGO AND OBAMA BECAUSE:

    “I only saw Rod Blagojevich one time … And that was in the stands and from a distance at a Chicago Bears Football Game” unquote.

    There are only three rules which anybody can understand. You don’t even need an attorney to understand them and if you need an attorney, well, you know too much…so look out for Rule #3!

    RULE #1…No matter what you see, hear, or do, you don’t know anybody and you don’t know nothing!
    RULE #2…If you capture something on tape or camera, it doesn’t reveal nothing!
    RULE #3…If you know what everybody knows in Chicago, well, you still don’t know nothing.

    http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=50730

  20. http://www.breitbart.tv/black-tea-party-leader-fights-back-against-naacp-president/

    The NAACP continues to use the allegation that racial slurs were hurled at black congressmen during a tea party protest despite the fact that video evidence disputes the claim. This time, the charge is met with a vociferous counter-attack from radio talk show host and tea party activist David Webb.

  21. Anybody want to submit captions for those pictures that nobody sees??

  22. Philo-Publius

    Andrew Breitbart is still offering a cash reward for proof of racism/use of the n-word.

  23. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Free Speech @ 1:02 pm
    “Word on Street in Nashville is that boCohorts have been cremating their victims. In addition to covering up for Pedophiles.”
    Dr. Robert Stein was the Cook County Medical Examiner during the horrible Gacy revelations, he had to make the sad announcements on TV, every night after work it was another body found in the crawl space under the home, it sickened him as well as all of Chicago, and America.
    Being a former Chicagoan I trust the word on the street more than I would any politician from there. Any idea how they get away with this in Nashville?
    ****************************************

    I know exactly how they get away with it and I have made it known to several investigators, but it involves two judges that may not be aware of what the boCohorts got them involved with. I have always respected said judges. Those two judges always treated me fairly so I give them the benefit of the doubt.

    There are other judges who are as guilty as sin IMHO and I hope they get the DEATH PENALTY for what they have done.

    The victims were runaways and the homeless.

    I hasten to add that I have no first hand knowledge, other than they clearly tried to kill me.

    My information about the murders that they did succeed in committing comes from the word on the Street, but I see no motive for the individuals who told me to have lied about it.

  24. CW..if someone came forward with evidence of misprision of duty (emails, letters, documentation), wouldn’t you be forced to reveal the source or go to jail??

  25. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Btw, Michelle, the murders and the coverup of said murders appear to be part of bo’s identity theft and vote fraud scheme here in Tennessee.

  26. OT…Banking…JPMorgan..made billions…well no kidding…interest paid on money..0.5% loan money at 20% interest….well who could you not make billions off of that??

  27. The benefit of the doubt, some crimes are so heinous on their face that no one can believe it , just like Gacy until 30+ bodies were recovered-then people believed it.
    “The victims were runaways and the homeless.”
    God bless them, known but to God, someone knew them and loved them and maybe wondering where they are Missing Persons.
    I know exactly how they get away with it and I have made it known to several investigators, but it involves two judges that may not be aware of what the boCohorts got them involved with. I have always respected said judges. Those two judges always treated me fairly so I give them the benefit of the doubt.
    “My information about the murders that they did succeed in committing comes from the word on the Street, but I see no motive for the individuals who told me to have lied about it.”
    I believe that these folks are telling the truth and must be living in constant fear.

  28. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    There is a reason why Nashville is ranked the 9th Most Dangerous City in America.

    Memphis is 2nd.

    http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2009/04/27/forbes-ranks-nashville-ninth-most-dangerous-city

  29. Free Speech

    LM // July 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Many local Democrats have put New Black Panther leader on their payrolls

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-21818-Virginia-Beach-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m7d15-Many-local-Democrats-have-put-New-Black-Panther-leader-on-their-payrolls

    ***************************************

    Virginia is an excellent State for Grand Jury Indictments.

    In many states governmental lawyers are not only NOT welcome in Grand Jury sessions, they are actually banned by law from any participation in Grand Jury sessions. Take Virginia, for example. The mere presence of a lawyer representing the government will invalidate any decision of a Grand Jury. Without the dramatic rhetoric, see how the State of Virginia explains the Grand Jury’s relationship to any such attorneys. “To keep the Grand Jury free from any pressure from the State, Virginia makes it illegal for any attorney representing the State to appear before the Grand Jury, except as a witness. If, however, members of the Grand Jury have questions about their duties, they may ask the Commonwealth’s Attorney for advice. Except for these two cases, if a Commonwealth’s Attorney appears in the Grand Jury Room while the Grand Jury is there, any indictment returned “A True Bill” by the Grand Jury is invalid (no good.) Therefore, while a Grand Jury may request the appearance of the Commonwealth’s Attorney to testify as a witness or to explain some principle of law about the discharge of their duties, they cannot seek his advice as to whether they should return an indictment as “A True Bill.” If a Grand Jury finds that it is in need of advice as to its duties, but does not know if it may invite the Commonwealth’s Attorney into the Grand Jury Room to explain, it should notify the judge that it desires further instructions, and it will receive such instructions in open court. ”

    I invite you to read the entire article here:

    Basic Research on What is Behind
    the Citizen Grand Jury Movement

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/interested-grand-jury-indictments-of.html

  30. Philo-Publius // July 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Andrew Breitbart is still offering a cash reward for proof of racism/use of the n-word.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    What is his reward for proving the USURPER is INELIGIBLE?

  31. Marty Didier

    Citizenwells, you did a good job on this article. It surfaces a number of issues not seen if we look at individual issues. However as mentioned before there’s a bigger picture that will explain more if we bring it into view. Also, I’m now treading on areas that need to include caution when discussing so sorry if I appear to limit myself.
    I’ll add a hint for you to think about and that is consider how huge this is and don’t forget to accept that we are in the midst of a White House Coup that’s similar and much more advanced to The Business Plot of 1933.
    In some respects, the real plot isn’t around us in Illinois even though they already own that and which is currently on stage! It’s really more expanded to include the Federal area which may only lately be coming into view. It’s actually been in view a very long time but we are only now starting to see it.
    Please accept my earlier comment that when you accept we’re in a Coup the view from the top down makes more sense than fighting to understand what’s going on from the bottom up. Illinois has always been known as the Combine or Shadow Government. There’s another rating for State Corruption among all of our States and Illinois ranks high. There’s a reason for this too.
    I’m here everyday if you want to ask questions but please accept that there are limits with what I can talk about. You can also reach me using email.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  32. citizenwells

    JJ.
    It depends.

  33. 68Truthseeker

    Candidate For Congress Says The People Have The Right To Know If Obama Is Eligible To Serve
    .

  34. LM // July 15, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Demand for re-vote on Obamacare surges
    16 signatures appear in days after WND report on King’s effort

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=178969

    3 of 6 Ky reps are signed on–

    I hope the readers here are paying attention to their reps and how they vote, not only this issue, but the YOU CUT votes each week.

  35. May I suggest that everyone post CW’s reports all over the internet and send out email to the media everywhere

    Been doing this for 2 years–where ya been dude??

  36. Marty Didier

    Citizenwells, there are a number of other cases which you might find interesting in adding to your article above and with what I posted today. If you follow this path, you will certainly end up with seeing what this is.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  37. Free Speech @ 2:07 pm
    Material like that makes me physically sick, have they got any idea how many murders there might be? Gacy had 30+ buried under his house, we don’t know if there were more (unaccounted for) …
    The Stranger Beside Me – Google Books Result
    Ann Rule – 2008 – True Crime – 672 pages
    Tells the story of Ted Bundy, a brilliant law student executed for killing three women, who confessed to killing thirty-five others, from the perspective of the —-excellent book.
    Ted Bundy said his murder victims were in the 3 digit range-that makes it from 100-999 in my mind.

  38. To stop Kagan from sitting on the Supreme Court
    Sessions phone number 202-224-4124

    I just called, the young lady told me they’ve been overwhelmed with calls all day

  39. ms. helga // July 15, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Will this be reported on tonight’s MSM news?
    *************
    ms. helga,

    Probably not, I see he was a fundraiser for Barry Soetoro as well.

  40. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    I have no idea how many people were murdered in Nashville. Remember the ex-Police Chief Serpas crime records were proven to be fraudulent.

    Remember also the coverup of the murders was all part of the identity theft scheme, so no doubt many many more than in the bundy case and the motives, at least in the coverup, were for political power.

    It makes me sick also as does this:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/04/nashville-da-refuses-to-investigate-child-marriage-pedophilia-child-abuse-in-shariah-classes.html

  41. http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/dick-morris-ghettoizing-obama/

    In recent weeks, a widespread belief has taken hold among Democratic House members that they have dutifully gone along with the White House on politically risky issues — including the stimulus plan, the health-care overhaul and climate change — without seeing much, if anything, in return.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They ain’t seen nothing yet…when the entire nation and govt is taken down, is restored to a communist/socialist control, ‘democrat’ will be of little or no consideration to TPTB.

    WAAH-WAAH–WAAH…what’s good for the goose is good for the ……….you get the point??

  42. Why is it that a number of people have been brought to justice over the past years for campaign fraud and other crimes, but the big enchiladas never seem to get touched?

    This has happened with the Clintons and now with BHO. For years both during the Clinton administration and afterwards, some underlings have been found guilty but the powers that be halt any further investigation into Clinton involvement. Is it politics? Is it hush money? Is it fear on the part of prosecutors?

    We are finding the same thing with BHO. Now, of course, with a DOJ strictly in cahoots with him, what can we expect? Our only practical, immediate hope is for somebody in Congress to call for investigations. I am not so certain about the FBI’s loyalty to “We the People.”

  43. bob strauss

    Watching Glenn Beck, When is Glenn going to learn that Obama lied about his citizenship?

  44. Philo-Publius

    Surprise! ObamaCare is Going to Pay for Abortions

    Whitehouse.blogs.com 3/21/10 – Today, the President announced that he will be issuing an executive order after the passage of the health insurance reform law that will reaffirm its consistency with longstanding restrictions on the use of federal funds for abortion.

    Evidently, that Executive Order and Obama’s word aren’t worth a hill of beans.

    The Health and Human Services Department is giving Pennsylvania $160 million for the establishment of a new high-risk insurance pool that will cover any abortion that is legal in the state.

    http://kingsjester.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/obamacare-funds-abortions-surprise/

  45. Marty Didier @ 2:57 pm
    What a metaphor for your posting re: The Business Plot of 1933.
    I hope it is all discovered just like this ancient ship. I have my guesses as to the plotters of the Business Plot of 08-09-10. An unholy alliance that’s for sure-I hope the get caught (whoever) all of them may be, just one honest man/woman could destroy the Hell/Charnel House of Horrors.

    http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Ancient-Buried-Ship-Found-at-Ground-Zero-Site.aspx

    Ancient Buried Ship Found at Ground Zero Site

  46. bob strauss

    He’s not going to reach billionaire status with that kind of thinking.

    Besides he’s under contract as an opposition controller with the FOX news propaganda ministry.

  47. Philo-Publius

    NYT: Time to regulate Google searches

    Rather than just endorsing the use of competing search engines, the Times editorial staff uses its dislike of the results Google produces to argue that government needs to regulate Google’s output — an apparent endorsement of China’s policy:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/15/nyt-time-to-regulate-google-searches/

    The NYT is late to the party. We all know that BHO and Google have been working together to manipulate and sanitize searches for almost two years now…it’s Obama’s policy.

  48. I think any person who plotted against WE THE PEOPLE, our Constitutional Republic should fulfill this Biblical injunction from God, who is perfect justice, some serpents are of the two legged persuasion.
    Genesis 3:14. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

  49. Citizen Don in California

    From previous thread:

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/update-atty-orly-taitz-appeal-to.html

    Wednesday, July 14, 2010

    UPDATE: Atty Orly Taitz appeal to Clarence Thomas docketed in the Supreme Court of the United States.

    ObamaRelease YourRecords on 8:03 PM

    This is an update to the Atty Taitz appeal to Associate Justice Clarence Thomas to reverse sanctions in Rhodes vs MacDonald. The appeal is now docketed with the SCOTUS. Below the docket info is the previous report on the appeal and the motion filed…

    No. 10A56

    Title:

    Orly Taitz, Applicant
    v.
    Thomas D. MacDonald, Colonel Garrison Commander, Fort Benning, et al.

    Docketed:
    /////////////////
    Read the rest at the above link
    This looks interesting.

  50. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Marty Didier // July 15, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    ==============================

    I almost wish you would quit posting here. The information you provide is too cryptic and useless. Either you are a crank or you do indeed have “inside information”.

    In the interest of being polite, let me assume that it is indeed the latter. If the coup is real and even bigger than we know – then you must be in real danger. And it explains why you cannot be more forthcoming. For that I do not fault you – indeed I fear for you.

    But that does not detract from the fact that what you post here is just weird and strange. So instead of posting here, confusing us, and endangering yourself, why don’t you find a way to have an “off the record” discussion with somebody. Perhaps CW will want to do that. Perhaps there are more widely known investigators or reporters?

    Surely something anonymous and non-attributable could be worked out.

  51. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Citizen Don in California // July 15, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    UPDATE: Atty Orly Taitz appeal to Clarence Thomas docketed in the Supreme Court of the United States.

    ==============================

    To me, this will add significant clarity to a burning questions. Contrary to some other more trivial disagreements we have been discussing, this one is extremely critical.

    It should answer the question once and for all: “Does the USSC hold Zero in scorn, or are they corrupt”. I believe that Free Speech has asserted the former and I hold the latter.

    My thesis is that the USSC has had upwards of a dozen opportunities to-date to put some muscle behind this supposed scorn, and have failed every time.

    I have no doubt they don’t like Zero, but not enough to do what it takes. Even if someone were to argue that a DECISION as to removing Zero is a “political question”, that does not prevent them from allowing or causing discovery. The information could then be passed over to the congress for impeachment proceedings.

    All I see is a lot of judges coming up with excuses (perhaps even proper legal excuses) why they don’t HAVE to do anything. In other words, they may be able to claim purity in that they are doing all that is required.

    Their oath says to DEFEND the constitution, not sit and wait for the obvious to be dropped in their lap. I require aggressive defense – Their oath requires them to do the maximum that is allowed, not the minimum that is required.

    So, like I say, the proof of the pudding is at hand. If they spurn Orly, I don’t know how anybody could believe in them at that point.

  52. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    This is creepy.

    ================

    Why do you say “creepy”?

  53. Philo-Publius

    Andrew Breitbart to NAACP Prez:

    “Let me say something a tad newsworthy to the president of the NAACP. You can go to hell. … I have tapes…tape of racism and it’s an NAACP dinner. You want to play with fire? I have evidence of racism and it’s coming from the NAACP.”

    http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-to-naacp-chief-go-to-hell/

    Way to go Andy.

  54. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 15, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    More BS from carlyle. No SCOTUS Justice is going to read this appeal.

    So carlyle where’s the article that overrules Justice Scalia’s decision that you claimed you would produce today?

    Sam Sewell // July 15, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Plains Girl // July 15, 2010 at 11:20 am

    What America needs is more can do Patriots.

    The Man Who Thinks He Can
    by Walter D. Wintle

    If you think you are beaten, you are;
    If you think you dare not, you don’t.

    If you’d like to win, but think you can’t
    It’s almost a cinch you won’t.

    If you think you’ll lose, you’ve lost,
    For out in the world we find

    Success being with a fellow’s will;
    It’s all in the state of mind.

    If you think you’re outclassed, you are:
    You’ve got to think high to rise.

    You’ve got to be sure of yourself before
    You can ever win a prize.

    Life’s battles don’t always go
    To the stronger or faster man,

    But soon or late the man who wins
    Is the one who thinks he can.
    Sam Sewell // July 15, 2010 at 11:24 am

    I must have posted a “thread killer” last night. Just to make sure the information isn’t lost to those who are willing to investigate I have re-posted lat night’s contribution that seemed to cause the other team to “take their ball and go home”.

    Cabby – AZ :

    A word of advice: Stay away from federal law when attempting to discern the power of CGJ. The feds have emasculated the citizens power with rule six.

    The states still uphold and encourage CGJ.

    In many states governmental lawyers are not only NOT welcome in Grand Jury sessions, they are actually banned by law from any participation in Grand Jury sessions. Take Virginia, for example. The mere presence of a lawyer representing the government will invalidate any decision of a Grand Jury. Without the dramatic rhetoric, see how the State of Virginia explains the Grand Jury’s relationship to any such attorneys. “To keep the Grand Jury free from any pressure from the State, Virginia makes it illegal for any attorney representing the State to appear before the Grand Jury, except as a witness. If, however, members of the Grand Jury have questions about their duties, they may ask the Commonwealth’s Attorney for advice. Except for these two cases, if a Commonwealth’s Attorney appears in the Grand Jury Room while the Grand Jury is there, any indictment returned “A True Bill” by the Grand Jury is invalid (no good.) Therefore, while a Grand Jury may request the appearance of the Commonwealth’s Attorney to testify as a witness or to explain some principle of law about the discharge of their duties, they cannot seek his advice as to whether they should return an indictment as “A True Bill.” If a Grand Jury finds that it is in need of advice as to its duties, but does not know if it may invite the Commonwealth’s Attorney into the Grand Jury Room to explain, it should notify the judge that it desires further instructions, and it will receive such instructions in open court. ”

    I invite you to read the entire article here:

    Basic Research on What is Behind
    the Citizen Grand Jury Movement

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/interested-grand-jury-indictments-of.html

    Plains Girl // July 15, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Carlyle and Cabby must have realized that they lost the debate. Yesterday Carlyle was claiming that he found some article at the public library that overruled Justice Scalia and he was going to post it today. Evidently he doesn’t want any more egg on his face. Same for his head cheerleader Cabby.

  55. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 15, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 15, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    More BS from carlyle. No SCOTUS Justice is going to read this appeal.

    Then that kind of proves my point doesn’t it. They COULD read the appeal, and ACT on it if they wanted to. I claim they do not want to.

    So carlyle where’s the article that overrules Justice Scalia’s decision that you claimed you would produce today?

    This is why I refuse to discuss CGJs anymore. You can’t even get to a determine of right or wrong until you get over the bump of sane or insane. If you read my words you will discover that I never said that or anything close. I did not promise to even provide anything about just CGJs, let alone anything about Scalia.

    I promised the following and I will still do it: I found several good articles that explain the history and background of grand juries of all types, reviews the trends and practical applications, discuses what is currently allowed, and proposes some ideas for ways forward.

    The reason for doing this is so that interested readers can get the information directly from the relevant experts and scholars and not depend on anyone here paraphrasing or drawing conclusions.

    And I did not promise anything “tomorrow” but only when I got the information from the library – they had to order it.

  56. Cabby-AZ,

    Thanks for the clip the other evening, the respite was good, thank you. Sedona is awesome.

  57. Free Speech – Maybe it would help the cause of CGJ’s if you would “pretend” that you are arguing a case in court before a judge. He would most certainly hold you in contempt of court if you talked to the opposition the way you deal with opposing viewpoints here.

    Your points have been well taken over a period of time, but lately you seem to be coming on “too strong.” Just a word to the wise.

  58. Free Speech

    Plains Girl // July 15, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Carlyle and Cabby must have realized that they lost the debate. Yesterday Carlyle was claiming that he found some article at the public library that overruled Justice Scalia and he was going to post it today. Evidently he doesn’t want any more egg on his face. Same for his head cheerleader Cabby.
    *************************************

    Bottom line is that carlyle & cabby both got cornered in a debate they can’t win because there has been no SCOTUS ruling overruling the 1992 decision in US v. Williams written by Justice Scalia, one of the all time greatest legal scholars.

    carlyle’s library article simply does not have the authority of a Supreme Court ruling, but it should be good for a laugh if he ever has the humility to show it here.

  59. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    This is absolutely going to happen. I guarantee it.
    It is despicable, so therefore it WILL happen.
    And it will be very effective.

    July 15, 2010
    The Parade of Bleeding Stumps
    By Adam Shaw

    As public spending becomes an increasingly important issue for the November elections, be prepared to see the left engaging in hysterical scare-mongering about the potential effect of spending cuts. This has been seen recently in Britain, where such scare-mongering already has its own label — “The Parade of the Bleeding Stumps.”

    Adam Shaw is a writer based in Manchester England, and specializes in religion and politics.

    Read the whole thing here:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/the_parade_of_bleeding_stumps.html

  60. Citizen Don in California

    Citizen Carlyle, The SC may once again claim lack of standing. One thing to remember though, the standing rule is just that, a rule. Not a law. Eventually a honest judge will hear the case according to law and not a rule.

    Just the opinion of an dumb ole country boy. Like the SC, I can have an opinion too.

  61. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Citizen Don in California // July 15, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    =============================

    I think you are helping make my point. They will not ever process a case against Zero unless they have to. And since the USSC never has to do anything (they always have discretion to refuse to process a case) it means they never will.

    So all this recent nonsense about the USSC “scorning” Obama and eager to prosecute him is just that, nonsense and wishful thinking.

    We have to quit wasting our time on all these fruitless efforts and focus on getting the information into the public. Obama will be brought down by the public, not the legal system or the congress.

  62. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    PS – I think there are no honest judges left in high places. If there are any left at all, they are in local courts where they can’t do us any good.

  63. Citizen Don in California

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 15, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    /////////////////////
    Isn’t there a court rule against using the word “honest” in the same sentence as “judge”??

  64. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) @ 6:37 pm
    because so many people were murdered, then BP gets “chummy” with Lybia–Blood Money, is money with no known conscience.

  65. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    ============================

    Yeah, OK, but things are usually only “creepy” the first time around. This is old news and has been known since the event. Gordon Brown and Barack Obama both did this on purpose with full knowledge of what they were doing. Neither believed the guy was sick. Just a ruse for the rest of us dumb nuts. And it was all about oil from the git go. BP wanted lucrative oil contracts there and Libya insisted on getting their buy back.

    It will be difficult to deal with this in any legal way. They only court with enough authority is the International Court at the Hague. Even if they do something, it will take decades.

    BP are not the really evil ones here. They just appealed to their National governments and begged them to “do what it takes to make it happen”. Then didn’t ask too many questions.

    No1 villain is Gordon Brown because he did the deal, and his foreign secretary.

    No2 villain is Barack Obama – because he had to concur.

  66. Marty Didier

    Michelle // July 15, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    Marty Didier @ 2:57 pm
    What a metaphor for your posting re: The Business Plot of 1933.
    I hope it is all discovered just like this ancient ship. I have my guesses as to the plotters of the Business Plot of 08-09-10. An unholy alliance that’s for sure-I hope the get caught (whoever) all of them may be, just one honest man/woman could destroy the Hell/Charnel House of Horrors.

    Michelle thanks fo the reply. The Business Plot describes their biggest failure and according to the family I was in, those involved didn’t want to repeat the failure again. There is a lot of information on the web that explains in parts how they changed our laws to prepare for the Coup. As explained in the 90’s, 911 was a kickoff towards finalizing the Coup which ends with Martial Law. The big one was the collapse of our ecomony which would force martial law to happen.

    As far as the Blago Trial, please note that there were others indicted besides Blago. They still have their own trials coming up which is expected to show a lot more of the corruption and I won’t say for sure but may include information on the White House Coup and other criminal systems in support of. This will be major and will explain a lot more of what we’ve been seeing all these years when it surfaces.

    If you read closely about The Business Plot and read elsewhere around the Internet you should see similarities between both. The Coup isn’t only a Corporate takeover as it also includes the Big Financial Groups who are on top of the mess steering us financially towards disaster. I learned about it in some deatil back in the 90’s and know they have been working on it for decades.

    We may have a system of laws but they haven’t been working as they should. Hopefully when the DOJ is cleaned up and this may take a while, things may start changing towards the better. But at the same time, those in the Coup are worried and trying hard to rush us towards Martial Law if you haven’t noticed. And again, the Coup is really a movement towards wanting to get rid of the Constitution and install in the end a Dictatorship.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL.

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