Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, July 22, 2010, Attorney Mario Apuzzo not liable for costs, US Third Circuit Court of Appeals

Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, July 22, 2010

Just in from Charles Kerchner, lead plaintiff in Kerchner v Obama and Congress.

“For Immediate Release – 22 July 2010

Attorney Mario Apuzzo’s Legal ‘Response’ to the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeal Order is Successful.

The U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals Finds Attorney Apuzzo Not Liable for Obama’s/Congress’ Damages and Costs Incurred by Them in Defending the Kerchner Appeal | by Attorney Mario Apuzzo

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/third-circuit-court-of-appeals-finds.html

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The Third Circuit Court of Appeals Finds Attorney Apuzzo Not Liable for Obama’s/Congress’ Damages and Costs Incurred by Them in Defending the Kerchner Appeal
On July 2, 2010, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals issued its decision affirming the New Jersey Federal District Court’s dismissal of the Kerchner et al v. Obama/Congress et al case for lack of Article III standing. The Court ordered that I show cause in 14 days why the Court should not find me liable for just damages and costs suffered by the defendants, not in having to defend against the merits of plaintiffs’ underlying claims that Putative President Obama is not an Article II “natural born Citizen,” that he has yet to conclusively prove that he was born in Hawaii, that Congress failed to exercise its constitutional duty to properly vet and investigate Obama’s “natural born Citizen” status, and that former Vice President and President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, and current Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, were complicit in that Congressional failure, but rather in having to defendant against what the court considers to be a frivolous appeal of the District Court’s dismissal of their claims on the ground of Article III standing. On Monday, July 19, 2010, I filed my response. This afternoon, on July 22, 2010, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals issued its decision on whether it should impose the damages and costs upon me. The Court has decided not to impose any damages and costs upon me and has discharged its order to show cause. This means that the matter of damages and costs is closed. Here is the Court’s decision:

“ORDER (SLOVITER, BARRY and HARDIMAN, Circuit Judges) On July 2, 2010, this Court filed an Order to Show Cause directing Appellants’ counsel to show cause in writing why he should not be subject to an Order pursuant to F.R.A.P. 38 for pursuing a frivolous appeal. In response, Mario Apuzzo filed a 95-page statement that contains, inter alia, numerous statements directed to the merits of this Court’s opinion, which the Court finds unpersuasive. His request that the Court reconsider its opinion is denied, as the appropriate procedure for that issue is through a Petition for Rehearing. However, based on Mr. Apuzzo’s explanation of his efforts to research the applicable law on standing, we hereby discharge the Order to Show Cause, filed. Sloviter, Authoring Judge. (PDB).”

I want to thank everyone who supported and encouraged me in this battle. This includes everyone who expressed their feelings on this matter through blog posts, articles, and comments, and emails.

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
July 22, 2010
http://puzo1.blogspot.com
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For additional information and/or comment contact Attorney Mario Apuzzo of Jamesburg NJ at:

Blog: http://puzo1.blogspot.com
Email:  apuzzo@erols.com
Tel:  732-521-1900
Fax: 732-521-3906″

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91 responses to “Kerchner v Obama and Congress, Update, July 22, 2010, Attorney Mario Apuzzo not liable for costs, US Third Circuit Court of Appeals

  1. bob strauss

    I hope Mario appeals his case to the SCOTUS, and maybe the same 5 justices will grant cert. and actually hear the case on the merits.

  2. Kudos to Mario on an important victory. Now it’s on to the Supremes, if they will hear the case. If they do, Sotomayor and Kagan (assuming she is seated) should recuse themselves, since Obama appointed them, and that might just make it possible to get a fair hearing. Sotomayor and Kagan should not even vote on whether to take the case.

  3. bob strauss

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    bob strauss // July 22, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    I hope Mario appeals his case to the SCOTUS, and maybe the same 5 justices will grant cert. and actually hear the case on the merits.
    The same 5 justices that recently voted 5 to 4 on the second amendment issue in Chicago.

  4. Excellent news. It is truly gratifying to see the court that proffered such an unsound opinion realize its error within a 2 day period and say “oops, our bad” in response to having their error come back to bite them.

    “Fleas have little fleas
    On their backs to bite ‘em
    And little fleas have littler fleas
    And so on … ad infinitem!!”

    Great work attorney Apuzzo. That’s the quickest trurnaround of a DOJ boosted position that I’m aware of – may even be a new world record.

  5. Harry H // July 22, 2010 at 7:03 pm
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    Harry H,
    You have a good point.
    Sotomayor and Kagen ( if approved) could possibly loose their life – long appointment to the SC if Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. Wouldn’t it be considered a conflict of interest for them to decide on the case?

  6. Bill Cutting

    Congratulations Mario!

    Looks like these judges got their marching orders from the Regime.

    Please , No Discovery!

    I wonder if someone from the WH had to call over , or do the clerks handle that sort of thing.

  7. Free Speech

    ” Mario Apuzzo filed a 95-page statement that contains, inter alia, numerous statements directed to the merits of this Court’s opinion, which the Court finds unpersuasive. His request that the Court reconsider its opinion is denied”

    ?

  8. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    GOM Oil Gusher Update

    This is what is known to be happening. There is rampant speculation about a number of other items that range from lunatic fringe (conspiracy theory) to credible questions and concerns that need to be checked out. More on these things as they come better into focus.

    The situation is relatively static and maybe slowly improving over the last week. Except for some seemingly small dribbles in the plumbing the new cap is holding. But it is a day by day decision with careful measurements and committee decisions.

    The relief well is progressing as planned with no reported problems. They are trying to put in some lining and casing preparatory to actually tapping into the primary well. That was planned for a week or so from now, but will be delayed by weather.

    The overarching issue and problem area is the gunk and gack already on the water and in the water. Cleanup is slow and the Government is inept or stonewalling at every possible opportunity. At this point, the ‘best truth’ is coming from Billy Nungesser, President of Plaquemines Parish.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Louisiana_highlighting_Plaquemines_Parish.svg.

    This good ol’ Cajun boy has no fear and says what needs to be said. If you see him on the news, stop and listen. Or look him up on the Internet (youtube, in particular).

    The “aw chit” of the moment is a couple of storms. A minor one down by the Yucatan peninsula will not slow down drilling operations but will make waves, affecting the cleanup. By far the bigger impact is an incoming Tropical Storm. It is now a Tropical Depression coming over the Bahamas, skirting Cuba and the Florida Keys and then turning dead aim for Louisiana. The eye of the storm will hit the Macando well site in three or four days. Therefore, the drilling operations will have to be suspended, and the ships and other support moved out of the area. This will probably delay everything approximately a week.

    Fortunately, the storm is not expected to get ‘worse’ than a Tropical Storm and they have decided (keep fingers crossed) to leave the well cap in-place, even without the careful monitoring and watching. The rainstorms will help clean out the estuaries and islands, but the wave action will be pushing any gunk and gack hovering offshore inshore on to the eastern Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida coasts. And, finally, don’t forget all the toxic chemicals. We need to watch carefully for what the storm sucks up and deposits inland.

  9. Free Speech

    And now the Truth from a real expert on Oil Wells.

  10. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 7:47 pm

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    I read the whole thing carefully. In plain English, it seems to me he made a broad argument (or more specifically, a number of pointed arguments) that the Theory of Standing is nebulous and unsettled. Therefore:

    1. He could not rightly be accused of filing a frivolous lawsuit into the teeth of solid theory and practice.

    2. The court has plenty of latitude to hear this case and should indeed get to the merits, rather than tossing it out.

    The court agreed with conclusion #1 and disagreed with conclusion #2.

  11. Free Speech

    Another True expert

  12. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 7:47 pm

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    I read the whole thing carefully. In plain English, it seems to me he made a broad argument (or more specifically, a number of pointed arguments) that the Theory of Standing is nebulous and unsettled.

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    And while I agree with the argument that the theory of standing is nebulous, Mario lost his argument on both the issue of standing and political question.

    http://www.constitution.org/duepr/standing/winter_standing.htm

  13. Mario may have lost this skirmish, but he will win the war. We had nearly three years of losses with the Army of the Potomac, until Grant took over and prevailed over Lee. We lost most battles over seven years in the war for American Independence, but we won the last and most significant encounter. God is in control and will not abandon this beacon of Liberty, if we will have faith, and do not abandon God. Obama’s history is yet to be written, but he will be held to account, as will his enablers, and this matter will eventually be considered as one of the greatest wars in America’s brief history.

  14. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:02 pm

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    I told you before:

    Hoffmeister: GOOD

    Simmons: BAD

    (Simmons is to the GOM Disaster as Gore is to Global Warming. Experts, maybe, but untrustworthy because they stand to profit from the story they are pushing. With both people, there is a lot of bad/wrong science also.)

    You keep ridin’ either of those horses, you’re gonna fall off and hurt yourself.

  15. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Mario lost his argument on … the political question.

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    Yeah, that’s a tough one. While there is some merit to the theory that legislative branch, not judicial branch, is supposed to deal with ‘presidential issues’ – Who is supposed to deal with constitutional errors and violations of rules and procedures by the congress itself?

    That is why Mario’s case was interesting and different. It included all of the above.

    It seems to me that a good outcome from a court hearing this case is twofold:

    1. Define NBC very specifically.

    2. Require congress to investigate and take appropriate action.

    That way everybody stays cleanly in their sphere and justice gets done. Everybody wins.

  16. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    U have offered nothing (no expert videos, no expert articles) to support your false conclusions.

    Simmon & Hofmeister both had proven credentials, U have no proven credentials to prove your expertise about anything ccfubo.

  17. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Another True expert

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    PS – since I agree with Hoffmeister, I guess that means you have given in and finally accepted that I am indeed a True Expert. (but, it doesn’t really matter – you are not my judge – I am a TE whether you say or not).

  18. Free Speech

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Mario lost his argument on … the political question.

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    Who is supposed to deal with constitutional errors and violations of rules and procedures by the congress itself?
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    SCOTUS deals with constitutional issues. Mario’s mistake, IMHO, was to make it a political issue. Anyone who has read Marbury should know that SCOTUS will not hear a case on political issues.

  19. It was great to hear this. Keep fighting the good fight, stay safe, God Bless. The Truth Shall Set US Free. :)

  20. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:18 pm
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    Surely you understand Conflict Of Interest. Without even arguing the science, Simmons has taken himself out of the game. It is that simple.

    That doesn’t prove him to be wrong. It just proves that he cannot be trusted. He is biased. I marvel you fail to grasp this common and obvious situation.

    So, I aggregate and sift credible sources. If I listed references, my simple informative reports would be as long as Mario Appuzzo’s 95 page legal brief.

    Some people respect and enjoy my reports. I write for them. Take pot shots at me as I zoom by you, but it makes no difference. I won’t even argue with you on your opinions. Even though it is not your area of expertise and you have no reason to have the requisite technical or critical skills. I only react to your blind support of Simmons because it is so blind.

    You can do what you want. I just want to make sure that others who read my work understand that Simmons is unreliable – at least on this topic. On day one, he shorted the bejesus out of BP and now he is pedaling as hard as he can to protect his bet.

    As long as everybody understands that, then I have done my job.

  21. I think if Mr. Apuzzo would have gotten sanctions, the he gain standing to file Quo Warranto.

  22. Sould be “then he would have gained standing” to file Quo Warranto.

  23. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Anyone who has read Marbury should know that SCOTUS will not hear a case on political issues.

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    Sure, that makes sense. But I thought that since his case was divided up into many different accusations, some were not “political issues” and directed at congressional malfeasance.

    I thought a court should at least hear those parts.

    But what do I know, I’m just an engineer/scientist.

  24. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Another True expert

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    PS – since I agree with Hoffmeister, I guess that means you have given in and finally accepted that I am indeed a True Expert. (but, it doesn’t really matter – you are not my judge – I am a TE whether you say or not).
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    I am glad we agree about Hofmeister. Simmons is believeable and NOAA & U. of South Florida agree with him. U ccfubo have not shown me any proof that the leak has been stopped. Even Allen had to admit that the bo/bp well is still leaking. He did of course try to deceive by using a new term seepage, but seeping is the same thing as leaking and I am not fooled by the bo/bp con game. The well is still leaking and as we agree bo has failed to clean up the mess.

  25. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Anyone who has read Marbury should know that SCOTUS will not hear a case on political issues.

    ============================

    Sure, that makes sense. But I thought that since his case was divided up into many different accusations, some were not “political issues” and directed at congressional malfeasance.

    I thought a court should at least hear those parts.

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    By suing congress, Mario made it a political issue, ipso facto.

  26. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Of course, Simmons sold his bp stock. Having majored in business finance & economics in college (OM) & grad school (USC, the Home of Reaganomics) I would have sold bp stock too. Even bp execs were selling bp short (which is a crime for them).

  27. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    By suing congress, Mario made it a political issue, ipso facto.

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    I don’t understand. You said USSC could hear cases and rule on if congress had violated the constitution. How else do you do that other than sue congress? If one wishes to challenge congress, how do you do that, then?

  28. Free Speech:

    You said:
    “By suing congress, Mario made it a political issue, ipso facto.”

    That’s not correct. He didn’t “sue Congress” but rather requested the court to mandate that Congress do as required by the Constitution for specific Constitutionally-required actions; a Constitutional matter rather than any sort of political matter. And the Judiciary DOES have jurisdiction over Constitutional interpretations.

    In Cohens v. Virginia (1821), CJ Marshall pointed out that the Judiciary even had an OBLIGATION to do so (even if they didn’t wish to do so) since ignoring that obligation would be “… treason to the Constitution …” ( from Marshalls opinion).

    It is a Constitutional rather than a political matter.

  29. bob strauss

    Orly Taitz is having a hard time verifying justice Thomas ever saw her application she filed at the SCOTUS to hear her case and stop the $20,000.00 sanction against her in the Barnett v McDonald case.

    The SCOTUS clerks are playing games against her, in the minds of many. I suggested she try to get her case to Ginny Thomas, at the TEA party and have Ginny relay the case to her husband.

    If anyone knows Ginny Thomas or how to get in touch with her at the TEA party she is involved with, let her know she is needed, to verify that her husband is aware of Orly’s request for a stay of the sanctions, and the problems with the clerks at SCOTUS hiding these cases from the justices.

    Covering for the usurper will not be tolerated!

  30. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    By suing congress, Mario made it a political issue, ipso facto.

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    I don’t understand. You said USSC could hear cases and rule on if congress had violated the constitution. How else do you do that other than sue congress? If one wishes to challenge congress, how do you do that, then?
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    U challenge the law not the political body (congress).

    However, if U had read my articles you would know that a constitutional contract lawsuit is the best way to proceed civilly; but as Sam Sewell astutely stated earlier, Grand Jury Indictment is the quickest way to legally remove bo.

  31. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 8:38 pm

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    The well is not gushing. It was belching between 25,000-80,000 bbls/day. There is now a miniscule DRIP in the new plumbing. It does not appear to be even a gallon per day.

    That indicates that they have been very successful. But, yes, the cap is only temporary, and the well is not fully stopped. That success cannot be claimed until the relief well is completed. Probably mid Aug at earliest. But in the meantime, things are holding.

    Finally, it is yet far from clear to what extent BP is the culprit in this. The most prominant ones accusing BP are the same ecco-terrorists who wish to use the crisis to put a stop to ALL drilling. Also playing the blame game is Halo Head and his crew – trying to deflect everything away from them.

    Then another thing everybody needs to consider is how, when, and how much to punish BP. They have certain legal responsibilities (written in their contracts) which they must and they will comply with. (Giving Halo Head $20B slush fund was not one of them, they were bullied into doing that). Many folks have retirement accounts and life savings tied up in BP stock. How much collateral damage are we willing to inflict just to punish ‘evil BP’?

    Many things to think about and work through. Life is not as simple as just yelling ‘witch’ every time we see a shadow. Or, even worse, crybaby Halo Head: “Wahhhh, Bush did it!”

  32. Free Speech @ 9:01 pm
    “Even bp execs were selling bp short (which is a crime for them).”
    Free Speech which law/s insider trading, will they have to go to court? or have they already. Down here in FL winds picking up-good-supposed to start raining tonight, 2-4 inches expected-35 mph wind gusts-our news is currently managed by BP so that is all we know the daily BP infomercials. Saw Jindal today still trying to get the ban lifted-I thought the Federal Judge corrected that situation, Jindal said the people in LA want to go back to work-at their chosen professions-but I guess you need permission slips from our way wacky gov’t to do that nowadays.
    Billy Nungesser, President of Plaquemines Parish should be running operations in this he is a trillion times smarter than Obama, heard on the news Obama coming to FL in the next couple of days to do his boring walks on the beach and act stupid routines. He is so useless-really, he gets in the way more than he helps.

  33. 4 Part series of FOX News tapes (pulled from the FOX web site and never aired) exposing that Israel agents KNEW OF THE 9/11 attacks in advance. The first video is explosive.

    …”Prior to 9/11, the FBI had discovered the presence of a massive spy ring inside the United States run by the government of Israel. This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year.

    What Israel has done in return was to set up government subsidized telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs’ main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call “traffic analysis”; a picture of someone’s activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when.

    Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only. However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well.”

    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/07/israeli-spy-ring-in-america.html

  34. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 22, 2010 at 9:01 pm

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    He didn’t just ‘sell’ his stock. He shorted a lot of stock he did not have. Then BP did not tank as he expected (at least not yet). So now he is in dire financial straits.

    As far as his theories (specifically, big lake, flying BOPs, wrong well, and all that), I am thoroughly aware of them. I report nothing unless it is corroborated by multiple independent reliable sources, complete with pictures, references, diagrams, etc etc.

    None of that has been forthcoming. Like I said in my report – as soon as any of this comes into focus, I will report on it. I recognize that the entire truth is not known. That means you don’t know it either. The actual truth may be different than what we know now or different from what Simmons says. So there is no point in reporting on this particular hysteria.

    As the truth is revealed, I will report it. If you insist on following Simmons, I would charitably say his theories are “pre truth”. Sometimes such pre-truth turns out to actually be THE truth. But usually not.

    For those who like analogies and examples. The 911 Truther stuff is similarly “pre truth”. There is yet much of THAT story untold as well. But at this point it is pretty pointless guessing at THE truth.

  35. Free Speech

    Michelle // July 22, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Free Speech @ 9:01 pm
    “Even bp execs were selling bp short (which is a crime for them).”
    Free Speech which law/s insider trading…?

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    Yes insider trading by bp execs is well documented. Also insider trading by certain bo co-conspirators in 911, 08 financial crisis, and bp disaster is also well documented.

  36. Now if Congress can negate Obamacare that would be a wonderful thing too.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/climate-bill-is-dead.html
    Thursday, July 22, 2010
    The climate bill is dead.
    Don’t believe me? Here’s what Carol Browner, the president’s Climate Czar, said in an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine:
    “What is abundantly clear is that an economy-wide program, which the president has talked about for years now, is not doable in the Senate.”
    Not doable in the senate. That phraseology is clearly designed to pass the blame onto the senate and to absolve the president from responsibility for inaction. But his former supporters ain’t buyin’ it:

  37. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Where’s ur proof & ur credentials? Radigan, NOAA & U. of S. Florida agree with Simmons & so do I.

    Sorry cc but U have given me no reason to trust ur judgment

  38. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Prairie // July 22, 2010 at 9:37 pm

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    GROAN!

    Even if that were true – they are still in a different moral league than the Palestinians and the Islam-o-nuts. Get a life. Figure out who the REAL enemy is. And quit fraggin’ our friends.

  39. Loose lips sink ships, with the way they drink in Chicago it should not be hard for enterprising reporters to get the remainder of the stories. Chicago may be a big town, but it can be very small too-people tend to stay in the neighborhoods unless they come in from the suburbs.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/07/22/our-experience-with-journolist-member-and-committed-obama-operative-ben-smith-during-the-2008-general-election/
    Our experience with Journolist member (and committed Obama operative) Ben Smith during the 2008 general election
    Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized | Tags: Ben Smith, journalists pushed and supported Obama, Journolist members, Politico.com |
    [15] Comments
    It was interesting to see Ben Smith, from Politico.com, listed as a member of Journolist — the committed Obama operatives in the Media who banded together to make sure negative stories about their Lightbringer were quashed while attacks were coordinated to label anyone opposing Obama “RAAACIST” during the 2008 campaign.

    We had a brief encounter with Smith during September and October of 2008, where he repeatedly refused to run a story we were involved in that would have damaged Obama and drawn closer attention to his continued and longstanding ties to terrorist bomber William Ayers.
    Here in Chicago, we’re friends with a woman who used to give the Obama girls swimming lessons. She, and others who worked in the Obama/Rezko Mansion for various projects and assignments, was a source for a lot of what we know about The Lightbringer personally (his affinity for men, his Parkinson’s disease, his chain-smoking and continued drug use, etc.). Between people who’d worked for the City with Michelle, people who attended Trinity United with the Obamas, and people who lived and worked in Hyde Park near the Obama/Rezko Mansion, we collected many anecdotes that raised a lot of questions about the man the Media was pushing to be our next president…if any journalist wanted to follow any of these leads.
    It was impossible to prod the Media into doing any sort of investigative story on Obama, in any way, shape, or form. Ben Smith was not the only reporter we went to with this story. But, he’s the most memorable because he kept playing games with us. ”Get me someone else, someone more important, someone who is not a Republican, and I’ll do the story,” he said. Which made us waste a great deal of time running through contacts and leads trying to do the work of actual reporters, trying to flesh out this story.
    To this day, the majority of people in Chicago won’t talk about the Obamas, for fear of their careers being ruined. The Left is vindictive and irrational. Anyone seen as working against Dr. Utopia, The Lightbringer, must be taken out. People are afraid to talk, and will probably remain that way until Obama leaves office. At which time, we expect all the flood gates to open. Secrets can’t be hidden forever.
    Ultimately, every “journalist” involved with Journolist or who otherwise served as an Obama operative in 2008 will be exposed, and their careers will be ruined.
    We hope the public makes the connection that absent the Journolist members and the support they gave Obama, perhaps he would not have been elected and then maybe many in the public would still have gainful employment in an economy that was not deliberately ruined so our wealth could be redistributed.
    We hope the public’s ire is turned full-blast at people like Ben Smith. That’s long overdue.
    (more)

  40. Prairie // July 22, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    *******
    Good info Prairie, appreciate it.

  41. MP3 interview w/Chris Landau, Oil Geologist talks to Jeff Rense about the oil gusher

    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_C_Landau_072010.mp3

    And I haven’t seen any information disputing this video of an entirely different oil well that was capped – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByanrzJ1gf4

    I don’t doubt credentials, I doubt your sources, CC.

  42. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Prairie // July 22, 2010 at 9:37 pm

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    GROAN!

    Even if that were true – they are still in a different moral league than the Palestinians and the Islam-o-nuts. Get a life. Figure out who the REAL enemy is. And quit fraggin’ our friends.
    ____________________________

    CC – not intending to gang up on you, but I take serious issue with this statement. Fox News conducted an investigation shortly after 9/11 and learned how Mossad has built a monstrous spy ring in the US. One has to be living in a bubble not to see the explosion of articles, reports, investigative reports, videos and stories about Mossad’s infiltration into all levels of our gov’t including dual citizens.

    Why is an ally spying on us? Helllllllooooooo?

  43. Helen // July 22, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Thanks Helen.

    Chris Landau, “It’s absurd. Relief wells will not work.”

  44. Citizen Corexit 9500,
    Our real enemies are the paid dispersants who pollute the blogs with bullchit! I don’t have time to respond to this – I request to be on your “no read list.” Thanks in advance.

  45. Another Trial?

    The rats are starting to drown. Charles Rangel faces ethics charges…Drudge

  46. #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Prairie // July 22, 2010 at 9:37 pm

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    GROAN!

    Even if that were true – they are still in a different moral league than the Palestinians and the Islam-o-nuts. Get a life. Figure out who the REAL enemy is. And quit fraggin’ our friends.
    **********************************
    Since when has Mossad been “our friends”?

  47. Helen // July 22, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    MP3 interview w/Chris Landau, Oil Geologist talks to Jeff Rense about the oil gusher

    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_C_Landau_072010.mp3

    ******************************************

    This makes a lot of sense.

  48. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    I see our anti-semites are back. Take out my very last sentence if you wish to believe that Israelis are not exactly our ‘friends’, but the rest is indisputably true.

    You guys are pathetic. I would love to see you in 1940 complaining about various perceived Jewish malfeasances while the Nazis are baking away. You all TOTALLY miss the point. It is not about whether Jews are pure and perfect (they weren’t then either). It’s about the fact that they are on-point against a common enemy that is far FAR worse.

    And as far as Mossad is concerned – won’t it be interesting for you when THEY are the ones to out The One??? And, of course they spy on us. We spy on them. So what. But they have a good excuse. Our country is full of anti-semites and very precariously balanced. They need to get as much advanced warning (and even try to influence) before any of the anti-semites gain any sort of power.

    Heaven help us. Heaven help them! If the Israelis fail (or are undercut by us) you all will be under Sharia law and women subservient to men within a fortnight.

    Such foolishness.

  49. Mark your calendars everyone, FS actually agree’s with something I posted.

    FS – it does make a lot of sense. Chris knows of what he is talking about seeing he does oil rig geology for a living. Thanks for not calling me a bo obot. Most appreciated :-)

    CC – I spoke to Virginia’s Director of Environmental Quality the other day, he’s an old colleague of mine, and he too is listening to the official line. I asked him if it would be alright to send him what I’m reading in the blogosphere, and he promised to read and review. I live on the Chesapeake and fear the underwater oil plumes lying on the bottom of the ocean due to the dispersants will make its way up the coast and damage the Bay.

    If you come across alternative, not inside, but alternative reliable and credible sources tracking the plumes, I’d be most grateful if you’d pass it on. Right now, it appears SC coasts are going to be hit possibly going up into the Outer Banks – the National Seashore which is a gem.

    Thanks in advance.

  50. “new cap” BP installed in the Gulf was NOT over Deepwater Horizon

    COMMENTS TO VIDEO:
    PROOF that the “new cap” BP installed in the Gulf was NOT over the well that exploded and destroyed the New Horizon Rig.

    PROOF — BP Deepwater Horizon Drilled TWO Wells That Blew Out on FEB 13 and APR 20

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    PROOF the “new cap” is on the FIRST well that BP blew up in February…

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  51. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm
    CC…I don’t feel like an anti-semite……..but i can recognize the difference in a Jew and a Zionist.

  52. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Heaven help us. Heaven help them! If the Israelis fail (or are undercut by us) you all will be under Sharia law and women subservient to men within a fortnight.

    Such foolishness.
    *****************************************

    Amen!

  53. CALL IN: IS IT TIME TO GET OUR TROOPS OUT OF AFGHANISTAN (video)

  54. Oh CC, give it up. One is not anti semitic simply b/c they do not agree with the Zionist government. Trust me, lots of Jews don’t trust the government anymore than I do.

    And no one is saying we don’t need them as an ally – I think we can all agree on that – but, an ally = friend. I see no evidence the Israeli government run by the extreme Zionist Likud Party behaving friendly.

    Sorry, I’ve been called a racist, a w#*@e and so many other nasty and inappropriate names, so understand, anti semite is not who I am nor ever will be, but if it makes you feel better to label me with such ridicule then go for it.

  55. Helen // July 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Mark your calendars everyone, FS actually agree’s with something I posted.
    ***********************************

    Whatever did we disagree about, Helen?

  56. cc, have U listened to this?

    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_C_Landau_072010.mp3

    ******************************************

  57. video: RISE UP for GLENN BECK’S RESTORING HONOR RALLY 8/28/10 – Jeremy Hoop (song from Tea Party Movie)

  58. I knew posting the FOX tapes would rock the boat- and I don’t care. Go Alinsky, call me names, you can’t refute the tapes exist and the facts revealed. Their are many more eyes than voices here on the blog. Frankly, I find your blanket hatred of Palestinians and Muslims down right ugly. Read up on the difference between Zionist and Jew before you have the gall to call me anti-semite. Shalom.

  59. ‘Lose Christianity or face expulsion’

    Georgia student told to read ‘gay’ lit, attend ‘pride parade,’ change beliefs

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=182441

  60. 68Truthseeker

    Candidate For US Senate Hector Maldonado Shows Obama’s Eligibility UNPROVEN

  61. Re: Helen // July 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Here is a credible source that is covering information about the Gulf Oil Spill Disaster that you will not hear in the mainstream media. You may want to look at this information to check the developments of the Gulf Oil Spill Disaster & to check any updates on the Gulf Oil Spill Disaster here as they are following this story very closely:

    “BP GULF OIL DISASTER”

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/bp-gulf-oil-disaster/

    Helen, there are sixty-seven articles at this time posted here about the Gulf Oil Spill Disaster, & this credible source
    is following this story daily very closely.

    This is only one source, Helen. Hope this helps.

    # # # #

    Main Page:

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/

  62. Forgive me, but my great grandparents grew up in Eastern Europe where Zionism started. They told me never to forget. Zionism started because Jews were burned in temples, killed in so called safe cities like Paris, beaten in Russia. So there was no safe place for Jews to live. Zionism is a longing to return to Israel, a homeland for the Jews. What’s wrong with that? Saying you have a problem with Zionism is like saying you have a problem with Judaism. Every Jew says at Passover, next year in Jerusalem. You can claim you don’t like the current Israeli government, but this government has done more to help the West Bank then most previous Israeli governments. The West Bank economy grew more this year (7%) than many other countries including the US. And Israel is willing to sit down with direct talks with the Palestinians. Let me remind you that it was the Palestinians who said no to peace with Israel in 1948, and it is they who refused the direct talks with Israel just a few days ago. To say that Israel is not a friend of the US and that we should talk to countries like Iran instead is just utter nonsense. I don’t think the Palestinians who danced in the streets after 911 are our friends.

  63. Jacqlyn Smith

    68Truthseeker // July 23, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Candidate For US Senate Hector Maldonado Shows Obama’s Eligibility UNPROVEN
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    68Truthseeker ….hopefully jbjd will see this….she has been working on this very thing for at least a year now……she has an ally in Hector if she dares to contact him!

  64. JJ and Prairie,
    Try explaining to Israelis the difference between Jews and Zionists as you perceive it. Let’s lay aside the controversy over the distinction for a moment.
    This controversy is little more than a distraction from the real issue.

    The real meat of this matter is that every country in the Middle East seeks the complete annihilation of Israel. They speak it, they write it, they teach it, and they have demonstrated it and continue to do so. This is not the time or place to explain here the true history of that region, but believe me, Israel is entitled to her land and she is entitled to live in it in peace.

    Every time Israel has given up land in the past she gets bombed by Hamas or Hezbollah.
    She is now facing the peril of her existence with the threat of a nuclear Iran.

    We are all imperfect human beings – every last one of us, including Israelis, Arabs, Persians, etc.
    However, to feel that “Palestinians and Arabs”, as you put it, have been shown hatred by anyone here , I believe is unfounded. To have respect for Israel does not mean that the other side of the coin is hatred for the her neighbors.

    If you read your Bible you will find that God will bless those that bless Israel and curse him that curses Israel. If we continue to follow BHO’s policy of withdrawal from Israel’s support, this country will not have the blessing and help of Almighty God. I hope that you don’t think that BHO’s policies are worthy to be followed.

    BTW, recently a two-state plan was presented to both Israel and Palestine. Guess who nixed it?
    Palestine or none of Israel’s neighbors REALLY wants a two-state plan. Rather they want Israel driven into the sea and openly say so.

  65. MUST READ ARTICLE

    “DEMOCRATS ARE RACE-BAITERS”

    July 22, 2010 ·

    Race Bait Reality Check
    By Mark Alexander – Patriot Post –

    July 22, 2010

    Excerpts:

    “Ward Connerly

    Ward Connerly, founder of the American Civil Rights Institute, concludes, “[R]ace is the engine that drives the political Left. In the courtrooms, on college campuses, and, most especially, in our politics, race is a central theme. Where it does not naturally rise to the surface, there are those who will manufacture and amplify it. Such is the case with the claims that the ‘Tea Partiers’ are a bunch of racists… I am convinced beyond any doubt that all of this is part of the strategic plan being implemented by the Left in its current campaign to remake America.”

    (snip)

    “I also make a larger point — that the Democrat Party has thoroughly institutionalized racial segregation by co-opting black America as one of its most loyal constituencies. Indeed, an unprecedented 93% of black voters, like so many lemmings, march in lockstep to their Democrat masters.

    But, in the rhetorical style of Jesse Jackson, the message of race they embrace is a disgrace. The Democrats have replaced the chains of chattel slavery with the chains of welfare and entitlement slavery.

    From the Lincoln Memorial in 1963, the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. proclaimed, “I have a dream that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” However, Leftists race-based policies such as “Affirmative Action” are precisely designed to judge by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.

    In 2008, Martin Luther King III declared, “race relations clearly will be advanced … because of President-elect Obama.”

    The Full Article Continues Here:

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/democrats-are-race-baiters/

  66. “FOIA Requests delayed and requesters investigated by the Obama regime”

    “A FOIA request made by Mr. Kenneth Allen of Arizona for the travel records of Stanley Ann Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro was made on February 9, 2009, and was not fulfilled, forcing Allen to file a lawsuit. Despite a judge’s order that the information be released by June 30, 2010, in a recent email exchange with Mr. Allen, The Post & Email learned that he still has received nothing. Allen stated:

    …not only the DOJ but the Judge is stonewalling now…I believe in my heart they won’t release those docs because they show Obama’s mother was in Kenya at the time of his birth.

    A very reliable source told The Post & Email several months ago that several staffers on Capitol Hill have stated that there is no evidence that Obama is “even an American citizen” while the State of Hawaii continues to refuse to release any of his alleged birth information.”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/22/foia-requests-delayed-and-requesters-investigated-by-the-obama-regime/

  67. Cabby – AZ – Great points.

    Let’s also remember that it’s really not about land anymore. It’s about religious jihadism. Jews, Christians and Muslims all lived in the lands that are now called Palestine for centuries. The second city most holy to Jews was Hebron after Jerusalem. But Muslims did their best over the centuries to kill and throw out most Palestinian Jews and Christians from Hebron and the West Bank. The greatest danger to Palestinian Christians right now are Palestinian Muslims which is why the Christians are leaving Palestine in droves. The real question should be why Palestine should be reserved only for the Muslims? Isn’t that what we call ethnic cleansing which is suppose to be a war crime? Arabs live in Israel. Jews and Christians should be allowed to live on the West Bank free of violence. Land swaps have been suggested for decades between Jewish settlements on the West Bank and land that is now in Israel that will be needed to connect Gaza to the West Bank. So the issue with the settlements is really a non-issue except for that the Muslims in Palestine don’t want peace at all and anything proposed thus far short of them throwing the Jews (and Christians) into the sea has not been accepted by them.

  68. Tea Party Activists Just ‘Tip of the Iceberg’? – John Boehner

  69. U.S. Upgrades Status of Palestinian Mission in Washington

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/index2.htm

  70. Tina –
    I agree completely with both of your posts re. this subject. It’s just a shame that the facts have been slanted so often to obscure the real issues here.

    I had a Jewish neighbor who spent his boyhood years in Poland and sometimes spoke of the Pogroms that occurred frequently against his people. They were in constant fear for their lives.

    Islam is one of the greatest threats the free world faces, and if we continue to ignore it and appease it, we will be facing a bleak future indeed. It is a mistaken notion that they want to conquer us because of jealousy. They want to KILL us or make us submit to sharia law because their Allah so commands them in the Koran.

  71. Hector seems like a stand up guy. He has all of the credentials and he definitely understands the nuances of how Obama slipped through the cracks of the Secretary of States with no legal authority analyzing and certifying his constitutional qualifications. As all of us know here, and Hector pointed out, the DNC itself even refused to state that he was constitutionally qualified. We need to get Hector some campaign dollars. I’m not from Missouri, but would vote for him in a heartbeat.

    The left is terrified of a Mexican born, decorated military veteran, who is opposed to illegal immigration, promotes the constitution and actually IS qualified to run for the elected office of U.S. Senator.

    Mark my words, the left will try to destroy him.

  72. Paxson – 2:06 AM

    The left is terrified of a Mexican born, decorated military veteran, who is opposed to illegal immigration, promotes the constitution and actually IS qualified to run for the elected office of U.S. Senator.

    Mark my words, the left will try to destroy him.
    **************************
    From what I read Hector is a breath of fresh air!

    You are so right about future attempts to ridicule and neutralize him. May God give protection and wisdom (and $$)!

  73. Jacqlyn Smith // July 23, 2010 at 12:55 am
    ….hopefully jbjd will see this….she has been working on this very thing for at least a year now……she has an ally in Hector if she dares to contact him!
    //////////////////////////////////////////
    Jacqlyn, listen to the video at 1:33 and 6:01 minute where Hector Maldonado said that a liberal blogger, jbjd at Texas, attacked him after the radio interview and accused him of not having received the letter from the Secretary of State that asked him to show proof of citizenship…

  74. Hi Cyber // July 23, 2010 at 2:42 am

    I sent this video to jbjd to her blog to see with a comment.

  75. IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO GET TO ALL CONGRESS PEOPLE: ELENA KAGAN SUPPORTS SHARIA LAW IN THE USA, & SHE MUST NOT BE CONFIRMED ON THE US SUPREME COURT!

    http://www.OilForImmigration.org

    “courage – said on Jul 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    And what would Elena Kagan bring to the table regarding states rights, the Constitution, etc. etc.?”

    “Elena Kagan’s Work to Make Constitutions More Shariah-Compliant

    Posted by Christine Brim Jul 19th 2010 at 8:45 am in Islamic extremism:

    “Previously on Big Peace we exposed Elena Kagan’s active support for Shariah Law. During her years as Dean of Harvard Law School, from 2003-2009, she ran and greatly expanded the Islamic Legal Studies Program. In publications and conferences, her program tolerated – indeed promoted – the Saudi-influenced introduction of Shariah law into national Constitutions.

    Kagan, Feldman, and the Rise of the Islamic State

    To expand Harvard’s capacity to sell Shariah law, Kagan hired Noah Feldman in 2007, and in 2008 Feldman published his valentine to Shariah: “The Fall and Rise of the Islamic State,” which argues for democratically elected “Islamist” (aka Muslim Brotherhood) parties to take control of Muslim states in order to govern under Shariah law. Kagan rewarded Feldman’s Shariah advocacy by giving him the endowed Bemis Chair in International Law on September 16, 2008. His speech accepting the Bemis chair advocated an “experimental Constitution” that “embraces international institutions.” The New Republic’s Leon Wieseltier devastating critique of Feldman’s shilling for Shariah included this insight:

    In his discussion of Islamism, Feldman, who knows a lot more about Islam than I do, no longer rises to uphold the liberty of conscience. Instead he explains warmly that “to the Islamist politicians who advocate it or for the public that supports it, Shariah … is expected to function as something like a modern constitution.” He compares Islamic law to nothing less than “the American constitutional balance of powers.” Philadelphia! …. Feldman is weirdly at peace with the increasing popular support that Islamism enjoys in Egypt, Pakistan, and Jordan …. His offer of a shinier sharia is just another barter of rights for authenticity. This is not gradualism, it is pessimism. …. Feldman is shilling for a soft theocracy–for other people, naturally. This is, among other things, hypocritical.”

    Kagan and Shariah Amendments to Constitutions

    Two months after giving Feldman his Bemis chair, from November 12-14, 2008, Kagan spoke at and presided over a conference titled The Constitutional Judiciary in the Muslim World: Its Influence on the Interpretation of Constitutional and Legislative Texts 1970 to 2008 . To a large extent, the “Constitutional Judiciary” discussed in this conference was in fact the Shariah Judiciary, which was (and is, thanks in part to Feldman) being written into national constitutions in Muslim countries as a guiding principle. The Conference program is here including abstracts, with a summary report here.

    Like Feldman’s book, this Conference was upbeat on the prospects of introducing Shariah law into Constitutions. Feldman was said to have been the advisor in Iraq who insisted on putting a clause in the Iraqi constitution requiring legislation comply with Shariah law. In the main, the conference participants appear to have treated the introduction of Shariah amendments into national constitutions as progress – a good thing. The Rise of the Islamic State…

    That theme of Kagan’s conference was captured by Baber Johansen, acting Director of the Islamic Legal Studies Program, in his opening presentation on “The introduction of the ‘principles of the Islamic Shari’a’ as a source of the national legislation in the constitutions of major Muslim countries (1970-2008).” Johansen’s abstract states:

    “The introduction of constitutional amendments in the 1970s and 1980 that made “the principles of the Islamic Shari’a” a major or even the major source of national legislation has, on the one hand, given a new Islamic dimension to constitutional law, it has, on the other, raised the question of the relation between this amendment and the other articles of the constitution.

    Is the Islamizing amendment an article above or in the constitution? Do all other articles of the constitution have to be interpreted in its light or is the constitution one body in which the new amendment has to be interpreted in a way that guarantees the rights and freedoms protected by the constitution? In the last instance the question is how, if the Islamizing amendment is above the rest of the constitution, the constitution can guarantee its [ie the amendment’s] status as being above the positive law and the constitution.”

    No mention of the Shariah laws against civil liberties, the lack of rights for women and non-muslims and apostates and gays, the requirement for violent jihad and so on. Just a technical discussion of the mechanics of making Constitutions comply with Shariah law.

    After Johansen’s presentation, Kagan spoke – but no record exists of what she said. She is listed on the program, and a photo of her at the conference was published in the June 2009 Islamic Legal Studies Program newsletter.

    That same newsletter, on the last page (”Objectives and Principles”) states that Kagan’s Islamic Legal Studies Program seeks “to promote a deep appreciation of Islamic law as one of the world’s major legal systems.”

    And that’s the problem. We know that Elena Kagan has a “deep appreciation” of Islamic law and international law. Americans are increasingly skeptical that she has a similarly deep appreciation for the US Constitution.

    According to Gallup polls, 44% of Americans support her nomination, 34% oppose her, and 22% don’t know. The only other nominees whose public support was less than 50% at this time were never confirmed: Harriet Miers and Robert Bork. Bork had 1% more of the public opposing him than Kagan; Miers had 2% less of the public supporting her than Kagan. It’s that close.

    Americans can still raise their voices on this, if they’ll raise them loud. The Senate Judiciary Committee will vote on Kagan’s nomination this week, with the full Senate voting later this summer.”

    http://bigpeace.com/cbrim/2010/07/19/elena-kagans-work-to-make-constitutions-more-shariah-compliant/#more-7606

  76. IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO GET TO ALL CONGRESS PEOPLE: ELENA KAGAN SUPPORTS SHARIA LAW IN THE USA, & SHE MUST NOT BE CONFIRMED ON THE US SUPREME COURT!

    http://www.OilForImmigration.org

    courage – said on Jul 23, 2010 at 4:04 am

    “And from Dick Morris regarding Kegan and Shariah Law:

    “Thanks to the work of the Center for Security Policy Director Frank Gaffney and the writing of Andrew McCarthy of the National Review Institute, there has emerged a compelling reason to vote against Kagan’s confirmation as a Supreme Court justice: Her support for Shariah Law while she was dean of the Harvard Law School.”

    http://townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2010/07/21/kagan_promoted_shariah_law_at_harvard/print?showfull=true

    # # # #

    ono – said on Jul 22, 2010 at 6:30 am

    “Why would Bull Dyke Elena Kagan Work to Make Constitutions More Shariah-Compliant? Does she realize that women would be treated worse than a family pet under Shariah? Guess not. This is so unbelieveable. November is 3 months away. Prepare for attempts to steal elections.”

  77. Jacqlyn Smith

    Cyber // July 23, 2010 at 2:42 am

    Jacqlyn Smith // July 23, 2010 at 12:55 am
    ….hopefully jbjd will see this….she has been working on this very thing for at least a year now……she has an ally in Hector if she dares to contact him!
    //////////////////////////////////////////
    Jacqlyn, listen to the video at 1:33 and 6:01 minute where Hector Maldonado said that a liberal blogger, jbjd at Texas, attacked him after the radio interview and accused him of not having received the letter from the Secretary of State that asked him to show proof of citizenship…

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    cyber…..you are right….I think he is talking about jbjd…..UMMMMM..interesting!

  78. @Tina,

    I endorse your comments re the State of Israel. You have it exactly correct.

  79. Starla // July 23, 2010 at 2:49 am

    Hi Cyber // July 23, 2010 at 2:42 am

    I sent this video to jbjd to her blog to see with a comment.
    ——————————————————-
    Starla, I don’t know what to think about that because in the video at 1:33 and 6:01 minute Hector Maldonado was saying that jbjd attacked him after his radio interview….

  80. Philo-Publius

    Top Obama Adviser Participated on Journolist

    http://tinyurl.com/2f32tla

  81. The Bible uses Zion to refer to the land, to Jerusalem in particular, & to the Jewish people — the land & the people, so inseparable, they are called by the same name. Antizionism is antisemitism. Shame on the Jew haters here.

  82. Free Speech

    Tina, Aussie & Cabby all made excellent point.

  83. Free Speech

    ER // July 23, 2010 at 7:12 am

    The Bible uses Zion to refer to the land, to Jerusalem in particular, & to the Jewish people — the land & the people, so inseparable, they are called by the same name. Antizionism is antisemitism.
    ***************************************

    Well said, ER.

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