CNN Orwellian news, CNN rewrites history, Lou Dobbs spoke truth, Citizen Wells open thread, August 8, 2010

CNN Orwellian news, CNN rewrites history, Lou Dobbs spoke truth

“Winston dialed “back numbers” on the telescreen and called
for the appropriate issues of the Times, which slid out of
the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes’ delay.  The
messages he had received referred to articles or news items
which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to
alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify.  For
example, it appeared from the Times of the seventeenth of
March that Big Brother, in his speech of the previous day,
had predicted that the South Indian front would remain quiet
but that a Eurasian offensive would shortly be launched in
North Africa.  As it happened, the Eurasian Higher Command
had launched its offensive in South India and left North
Africa alone.  It was therefore necessary to rewrite a
paragraph of Big Brother’s speech in such a way as to make
him predict the thing that had actually happened.”…George Orwell, “1984”

As noted months ago and again yesterday, Lou Dobbs, while still at CNN, had this to say about Obama not providing a legitimate birth certificate.

Here are two excellent articles that expose CNN in their Orwellian attempts to rewrite history.

From “I Took the Red Pill”

“Here’s what Fukino did and did not say in her October 31, 2008 statement: Parsing the Statement by Dr. Fukino about Barack Hussein Obama’s Official Birth Certificate

Here’s what Fukino did and did not say in her July 27, 2009 statement: Which Government Organization Was The First To Say, “Obama was born in Hawaii”?

Now, Governor Lingle falsely claimed that the October 31, 2008 statement said “that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii.” That is patently false. Regardless of whether Lingle is being intentionally dishonest or just clueless, it doesn’t matter… she is speaking lies, and cannot be trusted.

If that weren’t bad enough, CNN is now selectively editing Governor Lingle’s words in order to conceal her lie and create their own lie… the lie that Lingle “certified Obama’s birth certificate as legitimate”.  CNN says (again, bold emphasis mine):

The Republican governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, has recently certified Obama’s birth certificate as legitimate.”I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health,” Lingle recently told WABC. “The president was in fact born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.”

Do you see CNN’s distortion?  Do you see what they left out?”

Read more:

http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/cnn-edits-governor-lingles-words-to-conceal-her-lie-and-create-their-own-lie/

From Birther Report.

“Via CNN and my vault; The scum at CNN should be ashamed to continue to spead the disinformation regarding Obama’s eligibility to be POTUS.  The video clip below is CNN reporting on LTC Lakin’s court martial hearing that took place on August 6th, 2010, in Ft. Belvoir, Virginia.  The clip includes LTC Lakin’s attorney Paul Jensen.  LTC Lakin is refusing all orders until Obama proves his Constitutional Eligibility to be Commander-in-Chief.

Below the video I compiled all the evidence that debunks every lie propagated by the scum at CNN and the Hawaii DoH. Enjoy!

Read more and view the video.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html#comment-form

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139 responses to “CNN Orwellian news, CNN rewrites history, Lou Dobbs spoke truth, Citizen Wells open thread, August 8, 2010

  1. Murder, Spies and Voting Lies: Rigged elections exposed (Part 1)

  2. Murder, Spies and Voting Lies: Rigged elections exposed (Part 2)

  3. “Another Obama puzzle: 3rd grade in 2 countries?”

    “The release of two sets of State Department documents through a Freedom of Information Act request has given new life to the puzzle of how Barack Obama could have attended third grade in Hawaii, as claimed by a classmate, while he has stated he was living in Indonesia at the time.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=188801

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    From Lame Cherry:

    “Why does Indonesian Soetoro look nothing like Hawaiian Obama as a child with just a few months difference in the same photos?”

    http://tinyurl.com/33qyl7d

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-1971-it-was-british-indonesian.html

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    More than one Barack/Barry/Soebarkah ???

  4. Does anyone know if there are any active legal suits in Hawaii to force the DOH to abide by the Hawaiin laws to release the records they used to make public announcements pertaining to Barry’s vital records?

  5. 68Truthseeker

    Maj. Gen.Jerry R Curry (Ret.) Speaks Out On The Obama Eligibility Issue

  6. No comparison between alleged crimes by republicans to CRIMES by bo and his co-conspirators.

    Evidence of BHO/BP Crimes in Gulf Oil Spill
    Scientists confirm Toxic Oil Plumes
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    Oil & Corexit Mix in Gulf Highly Toxic to Human & Marine Life

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    Alex Jones calls for Grand Jury Indictments of BHO/BP

  7. LM // August 8, 2010 at 9:59 am

    There is no comparison between the alleged crimes of republicans in 2000 and 2004 and the PROVEN CRIMES of bo and his co-conspirators.

  8. Yet another example of the Feds not doing their Constitutionally mandated job.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2566795/posts

    ICE Will Release Illegal Alien Data (“millions of convicted criminal aliens released”)
    InsideNOVA.com ^ | August 7, 2010 | Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:25:54 AM by 11th_VA
    Prince William County, Va. – Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials will release to Prince William authorites the identities and final disposition of every convicted criminal illegal immigrant apprehended in the county and turned over to ICE, said Chairman Corey A. Stewart on Saturday.
    Stewart indicated that this reversed three years of “stiff-armed” responses by ICE to the same question. “They’ve also said they will increase detention center space in Virginia to hold illegal aliens until deportation. It won’t solve the problem, but it will help alleviate the prob-lem.”
    Stewart says “this data is the tip of the iceberg” and will show that millions of convicted criminal illegal aliens in this country have been released while awaiting deportation.

  9. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Thanks Michelle for this and all the info that you have provided on the crimes of bo and his co-conspirators.

  10. bo/bp are poisoning the people of the Gulf States.

  11. Effects of bo/bp corexit poisoning.

  12. Why anyone would want a repeat of the French Revolution especially the Reign of Terror part is beyond me. When I think of the Usurper-I’m reminded of Napoleon crowning HIMSELF Emperor, there went that Revolution-from Revolution to Republic, to dictatorship.
    Free Speech @ 11:42 am
    Thanks Free Speech-it seems this list is never ending-do you think lawyers are making notes of all of this, to prepare cases in the future-I hope and pray.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2566788/posts

    The Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Regime: extravagant and out of touch
    London Telegraph Blogs (U.K.) ^ | August 7, 2010 | Nile Gardiner
    Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:59:21 AM by Schnucki
    What the great French historian Alexis de Tocqueville would make of today’s Obama administration were he alive today is anyone’s guess. But I would wager that the author of L’Ancien Régime and Democracy in America would be less than impressed with the extravagance and arrogance on display among the White House elites that rule America as though they had been handed some divine right to govern with impunity.
    It is the kind of impunity that has been highlighted on the world stage this week by Michelle Obama’s hugely costly trip to Spain, which has prompted a New York Post columnist Andrea Tantaros to dub the First Lady a contemporary Marie Antoinette. As The Telegraph reports, while the Obamas are covering their own vacation expenses such as accommodation, the trip may cost US taxpayers as much as $375,000 in terms of secret service security and flight costs on Air Force Two.
    (more)

  13. Phil Berg Attending Beck/Palin ,D.C. EVENT

    AUGUST 28 2010

    Needs volunteeres to hand out flyers !!!!!!!

    http://www.obamacrimes.com Pass on,Volunteers needed

  14. SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Does anyone know if there are any active legal suits in Hawaii to force the DOH to abide by the Hawaiin laws to release the records they used to make public announcements pertaining to Barry’s vital records?

    I am not aware of any active legal suit in Hawaii, but the DOH absolutely should be forced to show the vital records and explain the legal reasoningn they used to proclaim him “born in Hawaii” and “a natural-born American citizen”.

    I believe Fukino based her “Obama was born in Hawaii” statement not on an original, initial vital record, but rather on the U.S. House of Representatives H.Res. 593.

    Which Government Organization Was The First To Say, “Obama was born in Hawaii”?

  15. bo/bp corexit/oil plumes “almost impossible to clean up.” According to U. of Georgia Scientist.

  16. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-07-20/news/0307200421_1_prostitutes-brothels-chicago-lawyer

    CW and Free Speech-when I was researching the infamous and notorious Rose Laws, who owned the Addison Motel (I wonder what Mob Guy fronted her) I came across this tid-bit. Funny she is a TN native. Is this blackmail on steroids with some of these guys? Is there yet another TN/Chicago crime wave connection?
    Last August, when Laws was confronted by the FBI during a search of her residence at River Plaza Condominiums, 405 N. Wabash Ave., she immediately cooperated, providing scheduling books and a breakdown of her operations, Ray said.
    The cooperation cut as much as 2 years off her sentence, her Chicago lawyer, Carl Walsh, said Friday.
    Laws’ daughter, Linda, convicted of assisting in the Chicago prostitution business, was previously sentenced to 18 months in prison.
    In 1990 a Cook County grand jury looked into strikingly similar charges that Laws brought in high-priced prostitutes from around the country to sell sex out of posh Chicago apartments.
    Laws, a Tennessee native, once boasted that her clients included congressmen, aldermen, important businessmen and one powerful judge, according to testimony at her pandering trial in Cook County Circuit Court in 1990.
    Laws was convicted of arranging for a prostitute to attend a party of undercover police officers in a downtown Chicago hotel suite in 1988 and sentenced to probation.
    She also received probation after pleading guilty in Cook County in 1993 to conspiring to keep a house of prostitution

  17. Globe article displayed,Donald Young’s mother,speaks out!!!

    http://www.larrysinclair.com Pass on

    Rusty Humphrys needs this article.He had interviewed Larry awhile back.All need this article!!
    Need to interview the mother !!!!!
    This should have been sent far and wide,O’reilly,Beck,Hannity Levin,Savage etc,etc

  18. Berg , Beck , Soebarkah’s Black Panthers , interesting group .

  19. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Free Speech @ 11:42 am
    Thanks Free Speech-it seems this list is never ending-do you think lawyers are making notes of all of this, to prepare cases in the future-I hope and pray.
    *************************************
    I know Lawyers are preparing cases and as we all know many have already been filed. However, as I have been stating for over a year and a half the actions of bo and his co-conspirators are CRIMINAL and they must be indicted in State Criminal courts ASAP. bo is attempting to install a permanent dictatorship. State Criminal Indictments are the only way to stop him now.

  20. Michelle,

    Other interesting TN Tidbits. Al Capone “vacationed” in TN. Jimmy Hoffa was once tried in Nashville and a Nashville lawyer tried to rig the jury. Al Gore held a fundraiser for bo at his Nashville Mansion after the 08 Debate here.

    http://www.johnsonsdepot.com/chicago/chicago.htm

  21. George Demos Discusses Church and Mosque at Ground Zero on CBN News

  22. This is about $89,298.00 Stimuwaste, more documented insanity.

    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/08/08/todays-open-thread-sunday-august-8-2010/

    Where do these people come from who can justify spending more than my house cost to bring a sidewalk that goes NOWHERE up to “federal guidelines”?
    h/t to Moe for alerting me to this excellent blog.

  23. Sir William…………………………………………….

    The very last person who attempted to get the HDOH to open up was a lady whose name escapes me for the moment. She brought her suit under the FOIA. To the best of my knowledge she was largely unsuccessful. Prior to her lawsuit the same thing was tried by Andy Martin. He too was stonewalled,and otherwise ignored. There might have been others but I am not aware of any further actions against HDOH. I remain hopeful that somebody will be able to go to them and make them understand that this issue is never going to evaorate, and they need to comply with requests or face prosecution themselves for aiding and abbetting an enemy of the US in a time of war. MMMMSSSS. Okubo, and MMMMSSSS.Fukino appear to not realise the full nature of their behavior in concealing and otherwise hiding evidence of treason. A case of aiding and abbetting the enemy could easily be made,on even rudimentary evidence where they are concerned,yet they continue to stonewall.

  24. Sir William……………………………………………….

    I forgot to mention that there was also a state levelact that she used as well. Again I can’t remember the name of it.

  25. Free Speech @ 12:27 pm

    http://www.ipsn.org/te09227.html

    I never knew that there were so many connections-what is with all of these underground tunnels? Casa Madrid was reputed to have many also. I also met this guy Rocky purely by accident. My boyfriend of the time introduced me-and whispered something about a Mob Guy from the 20’s and he was supposed to be some kind of cappo dude. Well I burst out laughing-this guy was supposed to strike fear in a person or something, but he was like a million years old so all I could think was he looked like a member of the Gang that couldn’t shoot straight. My boyfriend hustled me out of their real quick. I guess Rocky was some kind of hit man he either ordered them or did them himself.
    MELROSE PARK was always a Mob guy’s kind of town. Rocco Degrazia’s Casa Madrid restaurant was the place where Sam Battaglia would hold court and decide which juice loan suckers would get near-fatal beatings when they got behind in their payments—and which would be beaten to death. The Casa Madrid was also the favored hangout of Mob guys like Joey Lombardo (whose son, Joe Jr., is currently being forced out of his cushy position with the Laborers’ Union), Joe Gagliano, “Wee Willie” Messino, and Rocco Infelise, who is not likely to ever get out of the Federal penitentiary.

  26. #

    SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Does anyone know if there are any active legal suits in Hawaii to force the DOH to abide by the Hawaiin laws to release the records they used to make public announcements pertaining to Barry’s vital records?
    *******************************************
    William, Andy Martin still has a case on appeal in Hawaii to obtain Obama’s documents. His site is called Contrarian Commentary.

  27. LM @ 12:28 pm
    Here is some more interesting info.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2566767/posts

    Half-baked mosque (9/11 Victory Mosque Update)
    NY Post ^ | 8/8/10 | ELISABETH VINCENT and MELLISA KLEIN
    Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:24:03 AM by jimbo123
    Not so fast.
    The developers of the controversial mosque proposed near Ground Zero own only half the site where they want to construct the $100 million building, The Post has learned.
    One of the two buildings on Park Place is owned by Con Edison, even though Soho Properties told officials and the public that it owns the entire parcel. And any potential sale by Con Ed faces a review by the state Public Service Commission.
    “We never heard anything about Con Ed whatsoever,” said a stunned Julie Menin, the chairwoman of Community Board 1, which passed a May resolution supporting the mosque.
    (more)

  28. ICE chiefs slammed with “no confidence” vote from agents

    http://networkedblogs.com/6EKUQ

  29. Anyone need info about the usurper?

    http://69.84.25.250/blogger/archive.aspx

  30. Sir William-
    Bob Strauss-
    I remain convinced that something at the level of a SCOTUS court order will probably be needed to blast the HDOH eardrums enough for them to GET THE MESSAGE. They need to have some really heavy weight placed upon them to obtain the desired results. I believe that such a weight could come from the SCOTUS. But I do not intend to hold my breath while we wait for the SCOTUS to act.

  31. ………………and when they CANNOT produce a Certificate of live birth that is like that of the Nordyke twins, we will have Soetoro by the golf balls.

  32. bo/bp covering up Health Hazzard from Oil Spill by hiring and gagging whole University Science Departments. Fortunately some university Scientists have refused to participate in the bo/bp coverup.

    http://bpoilslick.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2010-08-04T11%3A09%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=7

  33. Old Salt79,
    According to Hawaii law, any court order will do. Especially if it is part of a criminal investigation.

    I am hoping they will grant Lt Col Lakin access to the usurpers Hawaii file, so we can find out who this guy is in the white house. That is if there is a file.

  34. Video Evidence that bo/bp have not stopped Oil and Methane leakage from the busted casing of the bp oil rig.

  35. Free Speech……………………………………………………

    Wouldn’t it really be neat if it was possible to find a really obstinate a$$hole scientist, yet one who is ALWAYS right,and see if Soetoro,or BP can shut him up without permanently silencing him with a firearm. I really enjoy meeting people who are not afraid to speak their mind,to ANYBODY. Even the POTUS! Sadly our country seems to be in rather short supply of such people. That is one reason why I stay around the CW blog. CW seems to be such a person. HIP HIP HOORAY,……….HIP HIP HOORAY.

  36. Free Speech……………………………………..

    I am sure that the well head is still being monitored continuously. My question is why are we not seeing any shots of the well head on the news anymore.?

  37. OldSalt, & Bob,

    Thanks for the update.

    OldSalt, I believe the lady you are referring to was TerriK. You have jogged my memory. If I remember correctly, she was working with Leo Donofrio on issues pertaining to the Hawaiin version of an FOIA, to no avail.

    If I am not mistaken, Leo Donofrio stated he would in fact travel to Hawaii and file a law suit as this was an easy shut case, but never did. He also stated the case laws that the Supreme Court of Hawaii had upheld in the recent past. Suddenly, he dissapeared, shut down his website and never persued it.

    I personally have mixed feelings about Andy Martin. I wish him success in his endevors to complete his legal histotian suit againt the State of Hawaii, however, he clearly believes that Obama was in fact Born in Hawaii and does have a long form BC on record. He has been critical of those who believe differently or have doubts. I disagree with his latter comments and question his rational for analysis.

    Lastly, the primary reason I asked for an active suit-if any- was the question of prompt pressure on the State to obey and enforce their own laws, as well as anyone I happened to be unaware of making progress unbeknownst to me. I gather this line of legal attack has dropped, unfortuneately.

  38. SirWilliam, Leo Donofrio’s site is still alive @ Natural Born Citizen. He’s currently involved representing Chrysler dealers against the actions of the usurper and his henchmen. His actions may include quo warranto of Obama. He hasn’t disappeared, he’s just approaching Obama from a different perspective. His partner is Steve Pidgeon, who was active early in court cases trying to expose the usurper as a fraud.

  39. To add,

    I believe TerriK also shut down her newly started Blog around the same time. I of course could be wrong, but I remember that I though it a coincedence that both of them were head over heals in persuring Hawaii DOH and has case law as well as Hawaii Supreme Court decissions to back them up, then suddenly dropped the persuit.

  40. Has “ANYONE” had the nerve, courage, guts, backbone, intelligence, cojones to ask point blank to Obama’s face if he has a birth certificate and if he thinks he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES?

    Let’s move forward.

    CALL HIM OUT IN PUBLIC!!!

  41. Free Speech……………………………………………………

    The rising cloud from the upward burst from the ocean floor suggests something other than crude. I am wondering if the temperature of thes bursts are being monitored ,and/or recorded. If it is sub cold then it is probably the release of a methane pressure build up. If it is hot then I would suspect some form of geothermal activity nearby. I hesitate in saying no to this premise,because the gulf has had intermittent geothermal episodes in the past,and it is likely that they will continue into the future. Either situation could lead to a real catastrophe in the Gulf. If geothermal activity was to occur in close proximity to the methane build up(which is still possible or even probable),there is a remote chance of an explosion of catastrophic proportions. Millions could die from the initial explosion,and a probable following tsunami, the likes of which has never been witnessed by man. In short it could take out the entire gulf coast and possibly one hell of a chunk of the Florida peninsula. Maybe even turn Florida into an island. I shudder to think of the monstrous proportions of such an event. Not all of us would walk away from it either. I would think that such an event could be at the level of a 30-50 megaton H BOMB. We would have everything except the GAMMA RAYS, and the Cesium fallout. But I doubt that the Gulf coast would EVER recover from such an event. It would probably be unrecogniseable, from it’s former boundaries.

  42. Bill Cutting

    Where are the John Thomas Tapes?

    http://bigjournalism.com/acary/2010/05/19/tony-rezko-barack-obama-the-fbi-mole-and-the-chicago-msm/

    “Now advance to February 10, 2008, when the Chicago Sun Times factored in visits to Rezko involving Blago and Obama:

    For the first time, the FBI “mole” who’s expected to be a key prosecution witness against indicted developer and political fund-raiser Tony Rezko is talking…Sources said Thomas also logged frequent visits to Rezko from Gov. Blagojevich and U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). Blagojevich and Obama were among the many politicians for whom Rezko raised campaign cash. Neither has been charged with any wrongdoing…Sources said Thomas helped investigators build a record of repeat visits to the old offices of Rezko and former business partner Daniel Mahru’s Rezmar Corp., at 853 N. Elston, by Blagojevich and Obama during 2004 and 2005…

    Both politicians relied on Rezko for fund-raising connections. Obama was in the thick of his successful run for the U.S. Senate in 2004. Now in the glare of a presidential campaign, Obama has donated to charity $157,835 from contributions to his Senate campaign that he has linked to Rezko.

    The Sun Times article includes this statement:

    Sources said the government had him wear a hidden wire to record conversations with a Chicago alderman — but that he did not record Blagojevich or Obama.

    Really? Why not Blago and Obama?

    The alderman mentioned above was Isaac Carothers (29th Ward). He eventually pled guilty to corruption and wore a wire himself.”

  43. Bob,

    Yes, you are correct about Leo’s site being still alive.

    I was referring to the time he shut it down and dropped the Hawaiin persuit. He came back once he got involved with the Chrysler suit.

  44. Sir William, The Post&Email site has extensive coverage of the actions at Hawaii DOH, including a story about how Hawaii is breaking their own laws about disclosing information regarding Obama, and the conspiracy to deny information.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/

  45. Free Speech…………………………………………
    Unless sombody has a few deep diving submersibles lying around that are expendable who would have the gut courage to dive upon the well head and get the truth by DOING THE NEEDED science,and engineering then and there it is likely that all we will have to rely upon for informatrion is either BP,or Soetoro. Pick your poison!.

  46. Evidence of bo’s air force spraying corexit in Gulf.

  47. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    GOM Oil Gusher Fear Mongering

    I am getting really annoyed at the amount of CR-P being belched from the Cesspool of Disinformation (i.e. the Internet). It’s not just this blog, but many other places.

    It’s just like with Barry Soetoro information – the majority would be wrong.

    It is starting to sound like the lunatic form of the “truthers”. A whole bunch of ignorant people, or people with some sort of agenda, loudly proclaiming they know exactly what happened.

    In both cases, the best and most rational approach is “Clearly we don’t know the whole story, and it even looks like critical information is being withheld or covered up – we therefore need a more thorough and credible investigation.”

    Anybody who thinks they already have The Answers on the GOM Oil Gusher situation are by definition full of sh-t. They are destroying the credibility of the more moderate right-minded people who just want to know the truth. A premature rush to judgment is damaging to everybody.

  48. HOW DID WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 FALL?

  49. Thanks Bob,

    I do read the postemail site weekly and I am aware of the report you are referring too.

    It may be just me, but I was really hoping to find out whether or not any Attorney had an active law suit that would be heading for the Hawaiin Supreme Court, since this appeared to be a no-brainer for the last 14 months (asside from Andy Martin).

  50. Dr. Rikki Ott Corexit/Oil Long Term Health Risks.

  51. Sir William…………………………………………………..You in turn have jogged my memory. Nothing like RECIPROCITY.
    She was going at full speed ahead,then for some unknown reason stopped posting,and little was heard from her thereafter. I believe I read something once that she had a very ill husband and had rightfully given him all of her attention. Not sure about this though.

  52. Citizen Don in California

    hapnHal // August 8, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    ////////////
    For myself, I dream of nobama arriving at a function and everyone just turns their backs to him and bends over.

    I still cannot understand “why” that with all the questions, documents and statements that have been published, no person in authority has started an offical investigation? Surely there is at least one honest person in a postition to conduct a reliable investigation. I used to know a few FBI, CIA, and DOJ agents and I thought they were honest. I guess I was wrong.

    Sorry people. I have tried to stand up for the people I used to work with and I can no longer do so.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole country boy.

  53. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // August 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    GOM Oil Gusher Fear Mongering

    I am getting really annoyed at the amount of CR-P being belched from the Cesspool of Disinformation (i.e. the Internet). It’s not just this blog, but many other places.
    ****************************
    You are not alone, CC. I am getting downright provoked over internet videos which are prepared and issued for internet consumption (a picture is worth a thousand words, they say).

    Many of these videos are undated, narrated by unknowns, or if the name is given, the credentials are unknown. It is disgusting to see how many folks are easily swayed by such unproven, so-called information. I am not saying that all of the videos fall into the same class, but what we should know and realize is that there are many different voices out there. Not all of them mean well for the country.

    We all know that videos can be doctored. There are many ways to present a message that a person wants to convey, and they are not all legitimate – “they” meaning both the messenger and the message.

    Frankly, I am beginning to wonder if this fear-mongering is not part of the BHO plan. Think about it for a moment. Think CRITICALLY, not emotionally. Question!! Don’t accept everything you hear or see as the absolute truth.

    While our minds are focused on the Gulf and trying to predict the future, BHO and cohorts are moving forward with Congress on a number of issues that WILL forever change American life unless they are reversed. While we are fussing and fuming over the possible future ramifications of the oil spill (that’s Obama’s one hand) the other hand is sneaking perhaps far worse stuff through.

    I will not put stock in any video that doesn’t give me assurance as to the credentials, political motivations, and other information deemed necessary to determine the worthiness of the video.

  54. Citizen Don in California

    bob strauss // August 8, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    ////////////
    Hawaii has also passed a law allowing them to ignore birth record requests.

    It seems like all levels of government have decided to ignore the “will of the people”. One bright light in the future is that, once nobama is found to not have been eligible to be President, everything he has signed and done is null and void as if it had never happened.

    I have a question though. What name does he sign the bills with and what is his “legal” name? Are they the same??

  55. “Obama’s Indonesian Stepsister Dies, Obama Referred as her “Adopted/Foster Brother,”

    “What information was taken to her grave?

    You haven’t heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 1910. The USA media didn’t cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days.

    Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barry’s anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husband’s cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didn’t live to see Barack Obama, her “adopted, foster” brother, again.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/obamas-indonesian-stepsister-dies.html

  56. CabbyAZ……………………………………………..

    Hi………….. I am wondering how things are going in AZ since MMMSSS.Bolton butchered the Illegal Alien Bill? I have a nephew who lives in Chandler AZ. He operates his own networking company.

  57. Gordo…………………………………………………

    Do you mean 2010.?

  58. Citizen Don in Cal.
    Hi Guy!

    Do you have any knowledge as to how the San Joachim valley is doing since MMMSSS Pelosi,and MMMSSS Boxer together conspired to,and actually had the water cut off to the farmers. I have read that many have already gone bankrupt. I can’t believe that anybody would be so damn rotten to their own constituents. Of course what other sort of behavior would anyone in their right mind expect from morons like those two.

  59. I guess that it is people like those two who are probably at fault for California being in the financial condition it is in now.

  60. oldsalt79 —

    It was a copy/paste. For some reason, it came out 1910.

    Will try again – let’s see what happens.

    “What information was taken to her grave?

    You haven’t heard of Lia? Neither had we. The unknown, until now, adopted sister of Barack Hussein Obama died unexpectedly February 26, 2010. The USA media didn’t cover the story of this woman nor was her name found until the last few days.”

  61. oldsalt79 // August 8, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    CabbyAZ……………………………………………..

    Hi………….. I am wondering how things are going in AZ since MMMSSS.Bolton butchered the Illegal Alien Bill? I have a nephew who lives in Chandler AZ. He operates his own networking company.
    **************************
    Hi, Old Salt – I’ve been enjoying your input!
    Well, things are sort of static right now, except there are fewer illegals around. I had written to Gov. Jan Brewer about Article III, Section 2 (one of Free Speech’s favorites) as to why this suit wouldn’t qualify for “original jurisdiction” before SCOTUS. That reference clearly mentions “States” as qualifying. I haven’t heard anything yet. Why would they pay attention to me? They probably already have their legal strategy planned: 9th Circuit, and THEN SCOTUS.

    We always have had a number of fellas hanging around at a trailer park – wanting day work, etc.
    They are missing now.

    There is one sad commentary on this entire matter. I am ALL for SB 1070, but it is being reported that the U.S. citizens that have applied for many of the landscaping and maintenance jobs offered by motels, etc. are not worth tiddlywinks. They don’t really want to WORK and they can’t take the rigors of it. Our people are way too soft, it seems. The Mexican laborers run circles around our own. Is it any wonder that employers would prefer Mexicans?

    This situation is a dirty shame and it should not be. BTW, one section of 1070 that didn’t get gutted was in re. to sanctuary cities in AZ. They have to pay a large fine if they persist in granting asylum to illegals.

    I’m familiar with Chandler, near Phoenix. So, your nephew working there gives you a personal touch for AZ!

  62. Citizen Don in California

    oldsalt79 // August 8, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    ////////////////
    I haven’t heard a word. But, I don’t get any local news and do not take the paper. My news comes from Yuma, AZ.

    I’ll let you know if I hear anything.

  63. cc fubo, U, Browner & other obots are the only ones posting bo/bp disinformation like “75% of the bo/bp oil spill has disappeared.”

    The bo/bp oil spill has not disappeared. It is in the marshland of LA, in oil plumes beneath the surface and covered up on the beaches.

    Evidence of BHO/BP Crimes in Gulf Oil Spill
    at Free Speech // August 8, 2010 at 11:20 am

  64. ANOTHER VOICE re. OIL SPILL

    (for those who might not have gotten this from Rush Limbaugh, who is certainly not infallible, but he has a whole lot to lose if he gives out wrong info – a lot more than some of these unknowns on videos):

    LEFTISTS DISPLEASED, SURPRISED BY DISPERSING
    GULF OIL

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072810/content/01125111.guest.html

    *****************************

    AS THE GULF ABSORBS OIL SPILL, JINDAL BLASTS DRILLING
    MORATORIUM

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072210/content/01125108.guest.html

    (If the inside of Superdome were the Gulf of Mexico, the amount of
    oil leaked as of 7/22 would be equilvalent to a 24-oz. can of beer)
    *************************

    NOW DEMOCRATS TARGET BP’s USE OF DISPERSANTS

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080210/content/01125109.guest.html

  65. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ // August 8, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // August 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    GOM Oil Gusher Fear Mongering

    … Think CRITICALLY, not emotionally. Question!! Don’t accept everything you hear or see as the absolute truth.

    ===========================

    Yeah, that is exactly the point. This is what is totally lacking almost everywhere.

    And, it’s even worse than that – – –

    The real problem is that much of what is posted (even the fear mongering stuff) is true or at least contains a grain of truth. The critical thinking comes into play in the interpretation of what the various factoids mean.

    So, there were airplanes spraying Corexit all over everything. Is this some vast scheme to depopulate the region or is that what they should have been doing to break up the surface sludge?

    So, there are plumes and bubbles in various places. Is that natural or unnatural. And if unnatural, is it part of Macondo well or something else. Do we already know all there is or is something being hidden?

    So, some oil on beaches was covered over with sand. Is this part of a reasonable mitigation strategy or a “cover up”. If it is a cover up, is it localized or widespread? Is it disgruntled workers or a command from on high?

    So, some fish and birds are damaged or dead. Are these small numbers or indicative of larger numbers?

    So, the well blew up – and there is a big hole in the helipad. Is this all a big accident or negligence or purposeful?

    So, maybe there were some explosives pre-installed at various WTC locations. Maybe even sprinklers disabled. Is that just good planning by the Muslim perpetrators or help from non-Muslim helpers or inside job or false flag attack?

    So, there is actually truly a USA Corporation (it’s in the law for everybody to see). Is that just a simple legal fiction to facilitate various righteous activities or is it a grand evil conspiracy?

    So, there is a fringe on a flag. So what?

    OMG OMG OMG OMG

    Too many imponderables. Like I said, a rush to judgment is a sign of inadequate thought process – and certainly reflects badly on those so easily swayed.

  66. ***
    cc fubo, U, Browner & other obots are the only ones posting bo/bp disinformation like “75% of the bo/bp oil spill has disappeared.”

    The bo/bp oil spill has not disappeared. It is in the marshland of LA, in oil plumes beneath the surface and covered up on the beaches.

    Evidence of BHO/BP Crimes in Gulf Oil Spill
    at Free Speech // August 8, 2010 at 11:20 am

    bo/bp GULF DEAD ZONE

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  68. Cabby,

    “Who” has to pay a fine for the sanctuary cities?

    I should know this Cabby and I apologize for having to ask, it rather been a busy week and just getting back from our mini vaction.

    I am playing catch up.

  69. Philo-Publius

    Rasmussen: Consumer confidence hits year-long low

    While Joe Biden tries selling the White House spin of “Recovery Summer,” American consumers remain locked in the doldrums. The latest Rasmussen survey on consumer confidence, released today, shows that measure hitting its lowest level since December. The employment index also returned to its lowest point since January as Rasmussen reported earlier in the week, before the release of the DoL’s unemployment report for July:

    The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures the economic confidence of consumers on a daily basis, fell to its lowest level since December 3, 2009 on Sunday. At 70.0, consumer confidence is down four points from yesterday and down nine points from its level a week ago. The index is also down six points over the past month.

    http://tinyurl.com/29s9cwe

  70. Dr. Sanjay Gupta exposes that EPA Tests of Gulf Seafood are flawed. EPA not testing for Corexit.

    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/07/10/sanjay-gupta-warns-contrary-government-claims-bp-gulf-oil-spill-seafood-safe/

  71. Citizen Carlyle – 4:17 PM

    So, some oil on beaches was covered over with sand. Is this part of a reasonable mitigation strategy or a “cover up”. If it is a cover up, is it localized or widespread? Is it disgruntled workers or a command from on high?
    *****************************
    Good point, CC. I just heard a Fox News report a few minutes ago featuring, I believe, a Louisiana fire dept. chief, who is delighted that the beach sand is being cleaned (run through a special machine) and then will be returned to the beach. I saw in the background huge piles of sand, which could be misunderstood to be used as a coverup, but this is not the truth, at least according to this local chief. Interesting example of what we are talking about.

    This event is one of those things where imagination can run wildly amok, and the results of uncontrolled emotions can be very harmful.

  72. bo co-conspirator axelrod defends bo’s bp co-conspirators on FOX

  73. Marty Didier

    A different issue but does relate to the overall and my ongoing comments about us being the midst of a White House Coup. Please read

    http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2010/08/full-service-bank-r-allen-stanford-and.html

    Realize that Allen Standford had been considered by my ex-brother-in-law Bruce Adreani as a friend. Bruce is also the money man in the family’s World Wide Drug Distribution business in Florida along with his brother-in-law Clyde O’Connor.
    Mexico drug plane used for US ‘rendition’ flights: report Sep 4, 2008

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j6QonBKKMo2gw1e3ql-xUcQEZbVg

    Please note the CIA link and realize that Bruce often bragged about being a CIA Asset keeping him from ever being prosecuted for anything even if it involved murder.

    Also remember my continuing comments that we are in the midst of a WH Coup. It’s put on by the big financial groups, CIA. criminal groups within the Federal Government and others. They also have an active assassination system that has been running for decades called “Murder Incorporated” complete with “Killing Machines” and much more. There are high level witnesses available to explain how this works. Up to now all murders are either an Act Of God or an Accident.

    I will reply to questions.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  74. #

    hapnHal // August 8, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Has “ANYONE” had the nerve, courage, guts, backbone, intelligence, cojones to ask point blank to Obama’s face if he has a birth certificate and if he thinks he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES?

    Let’s move forward.

    CALL HIM OUT IN PUBLIC!!!

    _______________________________

    I believe this is why there have not been any White House press conferences.
    Lester Kinsolving is the answer. He has the nerve to ask the question.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Kinsolving

  75. ms. helga // August 8, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Wouldn’t that be great!

  76. bo co-conspirator settles throws bo co-conspirator thad allen under the bus.

  77. bo/bp hiding chemical ingredients of corexit from Scientists.

  78. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // August 8, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Cabby – AZ // August 8, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // August 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    (“insert any topic”) Fear Mongering

    … Think CRITICALLY, not emotionally. Question!! Don’t accept everything you hear or see as the absolute truth.

    ===========================

    Huge thank you to both Cabby – AZ & Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    There is a lot of daily fear mongering from several commenters here. Daily.

    CitizenWells has great posts so the fear mongers try to disinformationize*, deflect and take readers off on conspiracy tangents off topic (*yes I made that up)

    …. maybe they are paid to do this (?)

    WORTH REPEATING:

    … Think CRITICALLY, not emotionally. Question!! Don’t accept everything you hear or see as the absolute truth.

    I would add what is the motivation or money behind (any) video?

    Is Rush Limbaugh, with a 20 year consistent history and 20-30 million daily listeners more credible than a Rachel Maddow or an Alex Jones or any lefty scientists getting government grant money?

    Just because something is on YouTube doesn’t make it “truth”

  79. Marty Didier @ 5:39 pm
    I often heard that expression “Murder Incorporated” in Chicago/suburbs, but I always thought they were talking about the Mob Guys.
    “It’s put on by the big financial groups, CIA. criminal groups within the Federal Government and others. ” This reminds me of when the Greek Syndicate got into it with the Italian Syndicate and they got into turf wars, is this the same thing? Lots of restaurants out in the suburbs got fire bombed around this time-we thought because they didn’t pay protection money. It was hard making reservations at this time because you didn’t know if they had been hit the night before. This was done at night so I don’t remember anyone being killed that way, but down in Chicago, they were still murdering the Italian Mob Bosses in front of the Italian restaurants.

  80. Thanks for info. stay safe, God Bless!!

  81. Philo,

    Thanks for the update.

    As I have said over and over again, throughout many posts, the real numbers are about to build.

    This fall, the US Census will be over. It will release (terminate) nearly 3 million workers in a single quarter this year. In addition, the US various dept. Reporting employment figures, will no longer be able to add 400,000 census jobs every month to offset the unemployment numbers.

    For example… 35,000 private sector jobs created last month. 440,000 private sector jobs were lost. This left a residual of a “negative” 405,000 job loss during the month. But not to worry, the Obama Administration proudly tourted that the “Government” (US Census workers) hired 425,000 during the same month, thus created jobs and lead to a positive “growth”.

    Anyone with a basic economic course or 4th grade math, can fully understand what is forthcoming.

    When Obama, Pelosi, Reed, his entire Economic team of Socialist Zars, have proclaimed how well “spending” your way out of debt works, only to backtract and recant-need I say more?

    As you may know, Sec. Of Treasury Tim Geithner reported last week that “Unemployment will get worse, before it gets better”….

    They know, with the elimination of Census workers, the real numbers are about to hit.

    It should also be noted, that once the higher unemployment numbers hit, the Investers confidence will bottom out, thus dropping the market around 6000 point level.

    As we all know, this will immediately lead to a drop in Consumer Speanding.
    It is the Perfect Storm……….. and it is coming, shortly.

  82. David The Devil Rockefeller Wants Us All DEAD

  83. Free Speech @ 6:09 pm
    Just so you know this is a western suburb just outside Chicago-well both are in the western suburbs. Oak Brook/Naperville

    http://www.nalco.com/aboutnalco/history.htm

    Nalco Company History – Nalco Company
    Nalco’s corporate headquarters move from Chicago to Oak Brook, IL. … Combining the best of both companies, Nalco and Exxon Chemical Company announce the …
    http://www.nalco.com › About Nalco – Cached – SimilarNalco Chemical Co
    Nalco Company Corporate Headquarters 1601 W. Diehl Road Naperville, Il 60563-1198 630-305-1000 Phone 630-305-2900 Fax. Nalco Energy Services Headquarters …
    http://www.nalco.com/

  84. SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Cabby,

    “Who” has to pay a fine for the sanctuary cities?
    ****************************
    Hi,Sir William – Hope your trip was restful. We missed you here.

    The sanctuary cities are supposed to pay the fine(s) to the State of AZ. I read this in a reliable article this past week but am unable to find it. The gist of the article is that there were several things in the law that remain in tact. One was re. sanctuary cities. I just scanned SB 1070 now and cannot find the words “sanctuary cities” per se, but there are rules re. harboring illegals.
    This bill amends some of the previous AZ Revised Statutes, so it is my “unlegal” opinion that one would have to refer to the prior law as well re. amounts of penalties, etc. Basically I was relying upon the expertise of the author of the article which I can’t find right now.

  85. LM @ 6:15 pm
    Cheery kind of guy isn’t he? One that thinks he is going to live forever and take it with him.

  86. No Rules for Radicals

  87. Free Speech @ 6:21 pm
    Things in the Gulf that I wanted to see but did not: Reporters from all the major media, allowed to ask questions especially the tough questions.
    I wanted to see how Kevin Costner’s brothers invention worked out.
    I wanted to see the microbe technology from the guys in TX that had video proof that it worked in 6 weeks, did they use that at all?
    I wanted to see the hay on the oil on the shore and see if it absorbed as well as the video demonstrations showed, which they could have lit at night, it would have given a lumenaria effect.
    and I always love to see Billy and James Carville going berserk.

  88. islam will destroy the world

  89. Citizen Don in California

    Cabby – AZ // August 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Cabby,

    “Who” has to pay a fine for the sanctuary cities?
    //////////////
    There is only one place a city can get money to pay a fine. From taxing the people. Do you think the city politicians will worry about paying a fine??

  90. Free Speech ,…..do you have a mental problem?? or are you trying to get all the readers and posting participants run away with your duplicate video postings??
    GIVE IT A REST ALREADY.

    YOU ARE GETTING ON MY LAST NERVE!!

  91. Cabby,

    First and foremost, our trip to the cabin was wonderful. the wife and I, and our two youngest children (4 total and one grand child), enjoyed our stay before they begin school next week. Aside from catching up and attempting to relax, was the organization of my mothers funeral, the speading of her ashes ceremony. She pasted away this last Febuary. The difficulty is the coordination between family out of State and the gatherng of the Tribe personal to be present. I am solely responcible for such execution and it has proven to be quite the challenge. As for now, the full native american ceremony is scheduled for next weekend, including the drum team coming down to our State.

    I am the first generation on my mothers side, to be born “off” the reservation”. I am also the first child to have completed a Bachelor degree on her side of the family.

  92. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Free Speech @ 6:21 pm
    Things in the Gulf that I wanted to see but did not: Reporters from all the major media, allowed to ask questions especially the tough questions.
    I wanted to see how Kevin Costner’s brothers invention worked out.
    I wanted to see the microbe technology from the guys in TX that had video proof that it worked in 6 weeks, did they use that at all?
    I wanted to see the hay on the oil on the shore and see if it absorbed as well as the video demonstrations showed, which they could have lit at night, it would have given a lumenaria effect.
    and I always love to see Billy and James Carville going berserk.
    **************************************
    When friends from other parts of the Country would come to visit me, I would take them on a trip from New Orleans-Biloxi-Pensacola-St. Augustine-Jeckyl Island to Charleston. They were amazed by the beauty of the

  93. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    re: I wanted to see how Kevin Costner’s brothers invention worked out.
    ===
    here is some information – looks like ones BP purchase (“BP expects to deploy all 32 by the end of August, weather permitting.”) are still in place / working / being deployed.

    http://www.ots.org/?cat=3

  94. Cabby,

    it is my understanding, that it is illegal to harbor a criminal? Is it not true by our own fedual laws? I know you agree, I am merely expressing my frustrations and pathic, redundant judical excusses.

    Surely a City now under precedence would cliam haboring sexual criminals, and maybe in the near future a city haboring other criminals, dependent upon that partuicular politicians views fore votes, or the judicial branch appointed?

    In short, if it becomes ok for the federal government to habor a criminal for one crime, then haboring a criminal should not be a punishable crime for the private citizens, regardless of the crime.

  95. JJ // August 8, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    ===
    LOL… amen to that… I think its a disinformation campaign – IMO only

  96. Free Speech @ 6:09 pm
    Just so you know this is a western suburb just outside Chicago-well both are in the western suburbs. Oak Brook/Naperville

    http://www.nalco.com/aboutnalco/history.htm

    Nalco Company History – Nalco Company
    Nalco’s corporate headquarters move from Chicago to Oak Brook, IL. … Combining the best of both companies, Nalco and Exxon Chemical Company announce the …
    http://www.nalco.com › About Nalco – Cached – SimilarNalco Chemical Co
    Nalco Company Corporate Headquarters 1601 W. Diehl Road Naperville, Il 60563-1198 630-305-1000 Phone 630-305-2900 Fax. Nalco Energy Services Headquarters …

    http://www.nalco.com/

    ***************************************
    bo/bp are primarily liable for the improper use of the Nalco product. corexit is going to devastate all forms of life in and around the Gulf.

  97. And whilst typing on my cell phone in a much hurry, I ask all of you to please continue to forgive my spelling.

    I at most times, are all thumbs and not quite used to the small unforgivable keypad.

  98. FreeSpeech,

    I am wished you could came down to Crossville, it was a great time, lots off BBQ and grilling. I would have loved to meet you and enjoy your company.

  99. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Free Speech @ 6:21 pm
    Things in the Gulf that I wanted to see but did not: Reporters from all the major media, allowed to ask questions especially the tough questions.
    I wanted to see how Kevin Costner’s brothers invention worked out.
    I wanted to see the microbe technology from the guys in TX that had video proof that it worked in 6 weeks, did they use that at all?
    I wanted to see the hay on the oil on the shore and see if it absorbed as well as the video demonstrations showed, which they could have lit at night, it would have given a lumenaria effect.
    and I always love to see Billy and James Carville going berserk.
    **************************************
    When friends from other parts of the Country would come to visit me, I would take them on a trip from New Orleans-Biloxi-Pensacola-St. Augustine-Jeckyl Island to Charleston. They were amazed by the beauty of the seaport towns of the south.

    bo/bp have destroyed it.

  100. SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    And whilst typing on my cell phone in a much hurry, I ask all of you to please continue to forgive my spelling.

    I at most times, are all thumbs and not quite used to the small unforgivable keypad.
    ****************************************

    Maybe we can celebrate after bo is brought to justice.

  101. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // August 8, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    ***
    cc fubo, U, Browner & other obots are the only ones posting bo/bp disinformation like “75% of the bo/bp oil spill has disappeared.”

    =========================

    Besides being a non-critical thinker, you are full of “it”. I don’t normally like to be personal, but over and over you attack me for things I did not say.

    In fact, I specifically stated before that even though the credible evidence shows that the Macondo well is not now leaking and that there are no other leakers right now – I am very concerned about the amount of oil already leaked and the Corexit used to break it up. I want to know more. And I further believe that The Truth may not be very pretty.

    I’m just peeved with anybody and everybody jumping on the nucking futs rant of the day.

    We need calm rational investigation. Not just randomly throwing rotten tomatoes every which way. It is a direct analog to how Commander Zero and his Flying Minkeys handle the economy. I would be embarrassed to be acting that way. But that’s just me.

  102. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    The State of the Union
    2 Excellent Articles

    Both at http://www.americanthinker.com

    Explains a great deal:

    /2010/08c/clarices_pieces_from_cordoba_t.html

    /2010/08/1913_was_a_very_bad_year.html

    I have long been a severe critic of the 17th amendment (a good candidate for worst ever).

    A lot of people have a hard time grasping that. This article does a good job of explaining.

    Basically the 14th amendment upended the world and made the previously Sovereign States subservient to the Feds.

    The 17th (as a matter of flow of authority) and the 16th (as a matter of flow of money) put the nails in the coffin.

  103. “New York Daily News Debunked; Sheridan Can’t Even Get the Facts Straight, THE ELIGIBILITY ISSUE IS GROWING BY THE DAY, Got Votes!?”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-york-daily-news-debunked-sheridan.html

    ======
    “Could ‘birther’ movement be dead? Hawaii getting fewer requests for Obama birth certificate”

    By Michael Sheridan
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    “Followers of the largely discredited argument claim Obama was actually born in Kenya. A birth certificate that surfaced online purporting he was born there was later proven to be fake. A “news story” about Obama spending millions to hide his birth certificate was also later shown to be false.

    The Obama campaign posted a copy of his “certificate of live birth,” which is similar to a birth certificate, online in 2008. Photos of the document were later posted on the Internet.”

    http://tinyurl.com/2bu69xx

  104. @Lisa and JJ,

    you still have the option to just scroll past the videos.

    For the record I think that both sides are giving out disinformation.

    From my point of view, I can see that there is less visible oil which is good news. However, the real problem for me remains the use of the chemical corexit.

    I want to know more about this chemical and its use. I am not content to believe the “facts” given by either side.

    A few of the people making comments, like Dr. Rikki Ott have the credentials to know the marine environment. However, people like Alex Jones do not have any credentials in my view and they are scaremongers.

    For the record, I do not believe that the explosion on the rig was planned. I think that there was malfeasance that led to the explosion. This is why I believe that BP is culpable with regard to the deaths of 11 people.

    I still relate this to the Australian experience, especially the very similar accident that occurred off the coast of Western Australia and in the Timor Sea. The spill lasted for something like 3 months and yes the rig exploded. Yes, there was damage caused by the spill.

    Yes, we need to separate fact from fiction.

  105. Aussie // August 8, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    It not just Dr. Ott. Dr. Gupta, Dr. Shaw, Dr. Joye, and Dr. Pincetich among many other scientists have all warned about the toxicity of corexit. There has been no credible evidence from bo/bp supporters than corexit is safe.

  106. Aussie // August 8, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    I still relate this to the Australian experience, especially the very similar accident that occurred off the coast of Western Australia and in the Timor Sea. The spill lasted for something like 3 months and yes the rig exploded. Yes, there was damage caused by the spill.
    *******************************

    Did they use corexit in Australia.

  107. Aussie // August 8, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Yes, we need to separate fact from fiction
    ===

    Totally agree. Obviously the Gulf clean up continues.

    Many countries have had spills & oil leaks happen in the ocean naturally all over the place.

    The more I read past info on the Gulf, its obvious it is not some type of ‘pristine’ environment.

    Does Australia have bodies of water that mirror the Gulf’s conditions (large river bodies into oceans with dead zones, etc) to contrast/compare history of spills and clean up?

    about dead zones:

    http://disc.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/oceancolor/additional/science-focus/ocean-color/science_focus.shtml/dead_zones.shtml)

    & from 2003: http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/products/pubs_hypox.html

    anyway, in general the ‘everything is a conspiracy’ thought process isn’t helpful as rational thinking folks can all probably agree to.

  108. Free Speech @ 7:13 pm
    One of my brothers-in-law had to spend months in New Orleans working-pre-Hurricane Katrina. He just loved the people, the food. I had a boss who loved going fishing with the guys (not my bag), but the guys loved it. The sea and everything in it, around it is like a sacred place to them. They get away from the cares/insanity of the world-restore peace to mind, body soul and spirit. They’re happy doing whatever guys do on these camping/fishing trips. I did a camping trip with my brother once-3 days seemed like 3 years-he was happy-I can’t say it was good or bad I’m just not a camping kind of person. I think Thomas Alva Edison is the greatest guy in the whole world, what did people do before electricity? I wouldn’t mind going in one of Dr. Ballard’s mini-subs exploring the bottoms of the Oceans. That would be so cool, I’m so glad he shares.

  109. FreeSpeech,

    In my opinion, it is not a matter of “IF” the SOB is exposed, it is only a matter of “WHEN”.

    It will happen, of that I have no doubt.

  110. FS: which one are you anti as there is a difference:

    Corexit 9500 or 9527

  111. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Free Speech @ 7:13 pm
    One of my brothers-in-law had to spend months in New Orleans working-pre-Hurricane Katrina. He just loved the people, the food. I had a boss who loved going fishing with the guys (not my bag), but the guys loved it. The sea and everything in it, around it is like a sacred place to them. They get away from the cares/insanity of the world-restore peace to mind, body soul and spirit. They’re happy doing whatever guys do on these camping/fishing trips. I did a camping trip with my brother once-3 days seemed like 3 years-he was happy-I can’t say it was good or bad I’m just not a camping kind of person. I think Thomas Alva Edison is the greatest guy in the whole world, what did people do before electricity? I wouldn’t mind going in one of Dr. Ballard’s mini-subs exploring the bottoms of the Oceans. That would be so cool, I’m so glad he shares.
    *****************************************
    Being an alien of America, bo did not realize how sacred the Gulf Coast is to Americans.

  112. SirWilliam // August 8, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    FreeSpeech,

    In my opinion, it is not a matter of “IF” the SOB is exposed, it is only a matter of “WHEN”.

    It will happen, of that I have no doubt.
    *************************************

    I agree.

  113. Free Speech @ 8:05 pm
    “Maybe we can celebrate after bo is brought to justice”
    Lord, let that blessed day arrive soon. On one hand I will feel elated having been aware of this horror since summer 08 due to Phil Berg-I was in a sick state of shock for about a month, I could not shake the creepy feeling that I never had before. Then fortunately I got mad and started doing whatever I could to pass the word. On the other hand I feel a deep sadness for our nation. I hope along with many other Americans that we are never this naive and complacent again-this is my first usurpation too.
    Why did we never think that this horror could be visited upon the United States of America, hopefully this will be the last and only time America experiences anything like this ever again.
    I learned something about vows and oaths too, next time let’s get them in writing, maybe that is why some are so cavalier in their oath taking. I believe when you are taking an oath you are talking directly to God, in the presence of God.

  114. Michelle // August 8, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Free Speech @ 8:05 pm
    “Maybe we can celebrate after bo is brought to justice”
    Lord, let that blessed day arrive soon. On one hand I will feel elated having been aware of this horror since summer 08 due to Phil Berg-I was in a sick state of shock for about a month, I could not shake the creepy feeling that I never had before. Then fortunately I got mad and started doing whatever I could to pass the word.
    *****************************************

    That is how I identify you as a true Patriot. The true Patriots do “whatever…to pass the word.”

  115. SirWilliam @ 8:56 pm
    FreeSpeech
    The guys in Chicago were always torturing us girls with side bets. Which way do you think it will go domestically or from outside of our country? I think outside of our country so Americans can be more mortified than they already are if that is possible anymore. “We are a nation of Laws” that phrase should be banned until we become a nation of laws again.
    “In my opinion, it is not a matter of “IF” the SOB is exposed, it is only a matter of “WHEN”.
    It will happen, of that I have no doubt.”

  116. Citizen Don in CA and ms. Helga…..thanks for your comments.

    (Don, I’m also from the Golden? State)
    Guess all the gold is in the city of Bell.

    I see that Plan A is not working (post 2:12pm)

    So, I’m moving on to Plan B…and when I get all my ducks in order, I’ll post! This plan could work and would definitly get Barrys attention!

  117. Citizen Don in California

    Something that I still don’t understand and maybe someone on here (legal minded) can explain it to me.

    If all the charges, comments, accusations against nobama are false, why has no one been sued or arrested for libel, slander or anything else?

    Just a dumb ole country boy wondering.

  118. It’s deja vu, all over again. (Thank you, Yogi Berra.)

    http://jbjd.org/2010/08/08/groundhog-day-in-texas/

  119. #

    Citizen Don in California // August 8, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Something that I still don’t understand and maybe someone on here (legal minded) can explain it to me.

    If all the charges, comments, accusations against nobama are false, why has no one been sued or arrested for libel, slander or anything else?

    Just a dumb ole country boy wondering.
    ********************************
    Simple. What is the damage? I mean, the guy still became POTUS and was handed the Nobel Peace Prize!

  120. Citizen Don in California

    The injury would be in smearing his “good?” name.

  121. Sir William – 7:45 PM

    Sorry to be so long in responding to your posts. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that it has always been a crime to harbor an illegal, but somehow some of these communities feel they have a right to make their own rules. It’s an absolute disgrace!

    Glad that your trip was good, although a sense of poignancy, too, in being responsible for your mother’s funeral. You have my belated condolences, because I know what it is to lose a mom.
    That is really something! You are of native American heritage, something to be very proud of, as well as your academic achievements. We honor all of our ancestors, because without them we wouldn’t be here. Simple, but true!

  122. TEA PARTY IMPOSTORS ARE INFILTRATING ELECTION

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/08/days-decide-activists-claim-tea-party-imposters-infiltrating-elections/

    It seems that in various parts of the country there are reports of candidates pretending to be affiliated with the Tea Party movement when actually they are Democrats trying to split the vote. Conservative activists are onto this scheme, but it is quite prevalent and sneaky.

  123. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // August 8, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Aussie // August 8, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    ==============================

    I completely agree with both posts. Lots of questions, not too many definitive answers yet. Let’s all agree to focus on good questions and leave the wide-eyed speculation to the rabble. We here are better than that.

  124. OHIO OFFICIALS TRYING TO SILENCE FREE POLITICAL SPEECH OF BLOGGER

    The reason the Board is going after Corsi is because he publishes on his blog critical assessments and lists of local officials that he calls “R.I.N.O.S.” Board officials feel that because he does not affix his name to his blog posts he is violating the transparency rules.

    (snip)
    Clearly the Board is reaching in this case. This code is meant to make sure that politicians don’t get the unrevealed assistance of secret financial backers in elections and is not meant to quash the free speech of lone citizens like Corsi that have a blog and want to spout off about local politics.

    But as time moves on we will begin to see more of this sort of stuff all across the country as government officials everywhere eye ways to shut down bloggers that are critical of them putting First Amendment rights are at risk.

    We can look for more of this and we can’t afford to ignore the issue. If we don’t pay attention it’s just another lost freedom.
    Read:

    http://biggovernment.com/wthuston/2010/08/06/bloggericide-ohio-officials-charge-blogger-with-campaign-violations/#more-154421

  125. Hmm this from a commenter:
    “The man was never once for even a half-second a “natural-born” U.S. citizen, was adopted as an Indonesian, attended college as a Foreign Student, travelled to Pakistan and used at least thirty different false Social Security Numbers. Officials and relatives in Kenya have stated it is common knowledge where in Kenya BHO was actually born. The ONLY birth certificate ever produced for BHO is from Kenya. Why was a certification of birth also made in Kenya in 1964?(Probably to do with the Obama’s divorce.) ”

    Now how does he know there was a certification in Kenya in 196? A wikki leak?
    unseen FOIA? Did it have anything to do with Kenya’s independence in 1963?

    http://www.topix.com/forum/world/kenya/TE0RVALH5G6I9T3IH/p164

  126. @Lisa G,

    I am not sure about the dead spots, but the comparable oil spill off the coast of Australia is the one that happened last year. I posted some links a few threads back. One of the links related to an article that was posted just days before the explosion in the GOM.

    This particular Australian situation was complete with the rig exploding; and it was complete with a cyclone. The rig was located in the Timor Sea. According to one report it was supposed to be Australia’s worst disaster. However, I have not seen any news articles relating to the oil spill in recent months.

    Here is one link:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/west-atlas-oil-rig-fire-extinguished/story-e6frg6pf-1225794040390

    You can Google for more links to the same situation. The link from Yahoo and Flicker was good because it showed how the oil was dispersed.

  127. @FreeSpeech, I am not aware of the use of corexit on this oil spill in Australia.

    I have not heard of it being used in other oil spills either. We have a lot of ships running aground on the Great Barrier Reef and that usually means an oil spill. As far as I am aware no dispersants are used. They just get the booms in place and do their job.

  128. Jacqlyn Smith

    Corruption leads to attempted murder and incarceration of the innocent in Roane County, TN
    Print This Post
    “I FEAR FOR MY LIFE”

    by Sharon Rondeau

    The seat of Roane County, TN is Kingston

    (Aug. 8, 2010) — In a recent interview with The Post & Email,Mr. Rocky Joe Houston of Roane County, TN stated that seven separate attempts on his life have been made by means of a “hit squad,” landing him in several hospitals and jail without an arraignment or the benefit of a jury trial

    read the entire story at…..

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/08/corruption-leads-to-attempted-murder-and-incarceration-of-the-innocent-in-roane-county-tn/

  129. August 8, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Simple. What is the damage? I mean, the guy still became POTUS and was handed the Nobel Peace Prize!

    *****************************

    ALINKSY’S RULES OF THE ETHICS OF MEANS AND ENDS .

    In was the end justifies almost any means.

    You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.

    The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.

  130. Aussie // August 9, 2010 at 4:37 am

    @Lisa G,

    I am not sure about the dead spots, but the comparable oil spill off the coast of Australia is the one that happened last year. I posted some links a few threads back. One of the links related to an article that was posted just days before the explosion in the GOM.

    This particular Australian situation was complete with the rig exploding; and it was complete with a cyclone. The rig was located in the Timor Sea.
    ===

    thanks for this info Aussie

  131. I have now had a look at some of those videos about what is happening in the GOM. There are some names where the people are quite reputable, especially someone like Phillipe Costeau, the grandson of Jacques Costeau.

    I do not know when Costeau did his dive, but I do think that we need to sit up and take notice of what was discovered beneath the surface.

    My concern remains on the fact that BP used corexit in a widespread manner. It is not just the aerial spraying that is my concern here. (Anyone who has ever been affected by a toxic chemical air dump will know the dangers that exist for our respiratory system – I was affected by the dumping of pyrethrins used in fly spray when I was about 12-13 years old). My real concern is what is happening under the surface… in other words what is the situation created by the use of the dispersant?

    The videos chosen by FS certainly show that below the water surface the environment remains toxic. This is not a very healthy situation.

    Now, back to Dr. Rikki Ott, and what she has to say. The woman is of course an activist, but she got a lot of her experience after the Exxon Valdez disaster. There is a difference between the crude flowing in the GOM and what flowed from the Exxon Valdez. This difference should have meant that the dispersants were not necessary in the first place. My POV here is that what Dr. Ott was saying makes a lot of sense… and again I mention that I experienced the toxic effects of a chemical spill. For many years I suffered URTI many times a year, and on top of that my breathing was affected every time fly spray was being used in my presence… I could not breathe, my upper air passages became blocked… this was followed by a reaction to the toxic impact of the chemicals coming out of the oil refineries in both Melbourne and Sydney – always with a migraine headache, as well as a reaction to cigarette and cigar smoke (which caused me to almost black out) and a reaction to bleach fumes. My reactions were probably mild in nature except for where I began to black out from things like paint fumes which eventually led to being checked by a heart specialist (there was a problem with the electrical system of my heart that was detected). This happened before steps were taken to clear the air from the vast amount of pollution caused by car fumes. I should add here that I am also affected by diesal fumes from buses and the like… aaargh.

    I wrote this so that people understand my own background when it comes to being affected by fumes, and the reason why I trust Dr. Rikki Ott when she speaks about the toxic impact of the oil fumes.

    What I would like to see now is whether Dr. Ott is noticing a difference in the air, or is this just something else that is being covered up by a malfeasant administration.

    Whilst I do not accet the conspiracy theories of Alex Jones with regard to the oil rig explosion, I do believe that there has been a massive cover-up with regard to what is happening in the Gulf. For once I am paying attention to Anderson Cooper. His reporting has been excellent and he seems to be staying on the subject. I just wish that he could see more clearly that the White House is very much malfeasant where the cover-up and the lack of action is concerned.

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