Kerchner v Obama update, September 27, 2010, Washington Times ad, Obama ineligible

Kerchner v Obama update, September 27, 2010, Washington Times ad, Obama ineligible

From Charles Kerchner, lead plaintiff in Kerchner v Obama, September 27, 2010.

For Immediate Release – 27 Sep 2010

This full page ad is running in today’s issue of the Washington Times National Weekly edition, page 5. It will be in 10s of thousands of mail boxes all over the USA by the end of today or tomorrow. Obama Ineligible! He can’t cover this up by plastering an internet copy of his phony Certification of Live Birth on his forehead.  Obama … I Tried and Lied But It Won’t Go Away!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38156915/Obama-Ineligible-I-tried-and-lied-but-it-won-t-go-away-Wash-Times-Natl-Wkly-2010-09-27-pg-5
The Petition to the U.S. Supreme Court for a Writ of Certiorari for the Kerchner et al v Obama/Congress/Pelosi et all lawsuit is scheduled to be filed by the end of this week.

For additional information or comments on this historic lawsuit regarding the inalienable civil rights of Citizens to demand that our U.S. Constitution, particularly Article II Section 1 in this matter be enforced by the federal courts and Congress, contact:
Attorney Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
185 Gatzmer Avenue
Jamesburg NJ  08831
Tel: 732-521-1900
Email: apuzzo@erols.com
Blog: http://puzo1.blogspot.com

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Pennsylvania  USA
Lead Plaintiff, Kerchner et al v Obama/Congress/Pelosi et al
http://www.protectourliberty.org
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http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-ad-ineligible-i-tried-and-lied-but.html

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156 responses to “Kerchner v Obama update, September 27, 2010, Washington Times ad, Obama ineligible

  1. CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret),
    My best wishes and good luck. I pray for your safety. I believe that very powerful forces will do anything to prevent examination of the facts of this dispute.
    Pete

  2. Thanks for the ads CDR Kerchner.

  3. Obama’s OFA, Churches Join Democratic Socialists for Saturday March in Washington
    http://tinyurl.com/29uop43

    Copies of Kerchner’s add should be passed around at the rally.

  4. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 26, 2010 at 7:48 pm |
    Free Speech in Jail?

    I do not have the specific comment handy, but FS is partially correct.. The fact is that …I simply reminded him that there were laws against some of the things he was saying.

    As I recall, I further wondered if he liked jail so much that he was begging to go back. I then speculated that maybe rather than any righteous reason that we have been led to believe – that somehow it was simply his mouth that landed him in jail.
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    bob strauss | September 26, 2010 at 6:26 pm |

    They did the same thing over at the Right Side Of Life site. 3 or 4 posters took up most of the time, to the point where you couldn’t discuss anything without them posting a long message espousing misinformation.
    You can argue with them all day long but their disregard for the truth makes it a waste of time.
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    indymac | September 26, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
    …That’s what Democrats do. They blame their opponent for what they themselves do. Isn’t that in Alinsky’s playbook? I’m beginning to agree with FS that you’re just an obot in disguise.
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    bob strauss | September 26, 2010 at 8:45 pm |

    Nice how the truth comes out eventually, and then the name calling begins, they accuse us of doing what they are doing. Name calling, ankle biting, b-tch slapping, kicking, and gouging. Did I forget any?
    =================================================
    Typical alinsky/tacqiya/lying tactic by obot-carlyle, accusing Patriots here on CW of the uncivilized tactics that obot-carlyle and the other obots use.
    ====================================================

    Free Speech | September 26, 2010 at 6:57 pm |
    Notice now that obot-carlyle is in moderation, sunstein sends in the B-string obots, but they are easily recognized by the fact that they immediately start defending obot-carlyle rather than engaging in intelligent discussions or they start posting long NONSENSE posts about bo being a CIA agent & Malcolm X being bo’s daddy. Best thing to do is just ignore these B-string obots.
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    bob strauss | September 26, 2010 at 8:18 pm |
    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 26, 2010 at 8:04 pm |
    In any case, there seems to be too much raw animal behavior on this blog – kicking, gouging, b-tch slapping, ankle biting, etc. – and not nearly enough civilized human behavior.
    **********************************************************
    That’s your opinion, my opinion is, the people on this site are true patriots, who love their government when it is operated according to the US Constitution.
    ==================================
    Jonah | September 26, 2010 at 7:20 pm |
    Does anyone see what happened here?
    The obot’s goal is to antagonize sincere commentors in attempt to detract from the topic. They’ve attempted to steer conversation away from the original discussion and they have succeeded.
    ===============================================
    Bill G | September 26, 2010 at 11:14 pm |
    What a disappointment this blog has become. The obots are winning this skirmish, but will lose the battle.
    ===============================================
    obot-carlyle spent most of yesterday in moderation and the discussion was good for the most part until CW let obot-carlyle back in. Hopefully, obot-carlyle will be in moderation again today.

  5. http://blog.al.com/live/2010/09/after_oil_spill_depression_and.html

    An emergency survey conducted door-to-door in coastal Alabama confirmed…respiratory ailments, according to a preliminary report.

    Among the findings:

    •At least half of the households queried in both counties had at least one member experiencing respiratory issues within the past 30 days. Most commonly mentioned was nasal congestion.

  6. Some conservative legal thinkers like Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas think that the Constitution means what it originally meant. That means we should understand the document by going into a kind of ‘Time Machine’ and capturing the public understanding of the public that ratified the document a century or more than a century ago.
    – Cass Sunstein
    http://tinyurl.com/3ynnwmp

    It’not just conservative legal thinkers, its the majority of Americans. Someone should enlighten Cass that the Supreme Court has already addressed this.

    In Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393, 476-77 (1857), the defining role of the U.S. Supreme Court was confirmed in the majority opinion written by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney:

    “It is not the province of the court to decide upon the justice or injustice, the policy or impolicy, of these laws. The decision of that question belonged to the political or law-making power; to those who formed the sovereignty and framed the Constitution. The duty of the court is, to interpret the instrument they have framed, with the best lights we can obtain on the subject, and to administer it as we find it, according to its true intent and meaning when it was adopted.”

    In South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437 (1905) at pages 448-449, the Court ruled the original meaning was controlling:

    The Constitution is a written instrument. As such its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted it means now. As said by Mr. Chief Justice Taney in Dred Scott v. Sandlord, 19 How. 393, 426: ‘It is not only the same in words, but the same in meaning,

    Mr. Chief Justice Marshall, in Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 188, well declared:

    ‘…the enlightened patriots who framed our Constitution, and the people who adopted it, must be understood to have employed words in their natural sense, and to have intended what they have said.

  7. Excellent Article! Thanks Zach!

    Zach Jones | September 27, 2010 at 10:07 am |
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/26/did-glenn-beck-respond-to-the-open-letter-posted-here-on-august-17/

    So, according to Cass Sunstein (“most dangerous man in America” according to Glenn Beck)– the Obama regime believes that even if the claim of the “birthers” that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen pursuant to the requirements of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 the United States Constitution is true, it is still a conspiracy theory!

    All I can say is WOW! That is truly scary.

    Does anything in Glenn Beck’s remarks sound familiar?

    Do the names “Fight the Smears” and “FactCheck.org” and “Snopes” come to mind?

    Do you remember Glenn Beck ever discussing the eligibility issue so directly, and in such explicit language? I sure do not.

    Do you believe that this is Glenn Beck’s response to my open letter to him? I believe it is.

    If this is as far as Glenn Beck can go right now (including covering himself with appropriate disclaimers) then this may well be a signal that Glenn Beck is with us. And the fact that it came out on the same day that Sarah Palin seemed to go beyond her previous statements on the eligibility issue is certainly intriguing.

    What do you think?

  8. Regarding the Glenn Beck article, do you remember this story?
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

    Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November
    By Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod Tuesday, August 4, 2009

  9. Now that obot-carlyle has been outed as a sunstein/bo obot, sunstein is desperately trying to infiltrate CW with his B-String whose main LUNATIC bo conspiracy theory is that “bo is a CIA agent and Malcolm X is bo’s daddy.”

    The problem that sunstein faces is that his B-string obots were immediately discredited by association with his failed obot-carlyle and his head cheerleader.

    It is amusing to watch the INCOMPETENT LUNATIC sunstein desperately attempt to hold on to his bo DELUSIONS of grandeur. LOL!

  10. Zach Jones | September 27, 2010 at 10:45 am |
    Regarding the Glenn Beck article, do you remember this story?
    =============================================
    Yes, I remember it well. By that time after being arrested by bo cohorts in Nashville on false charges, I knew full well how treacherous bo and his criminal co-conspirators are.

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  11. FS – It is amazing. Gotta go. Have a great day! Zach

  12. Zach @10:21am,
    Wow, thanks for posting the P&E article. I can’t wait to see that movie.
    ______________________
    The first theatrical trailer that you might have seen on the website was put online about nine months ago. At that time, I got so many responses! The Fahrenheit 911 trailer has been online for about three years, and it’s gotten about 6,000 or 7,000 comments. I got 37,000 comments on that trailer in four months and it was hosted on about 2500 websites around the world within two weeks. And this is with no promotion.
    ______________________
    I personally don’t believe that the people who think BS/BO is ineligible are fringe at all. I believe we are closer to the majority, and it’s growing every day.

  13. Philo-Publius | September 27, 2010 at 10:25 am |
    “Some conservative legal thinkers like Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas think that the Constitution means what it originally meant. That means we should understand the document by going into a kind of ‘Time Machine’ and capturing the public understanding of the public that ratified the document a century or more than a century ago.”
    – Cass Sunstein
    ==============================================

    AMAZING this MORON sunstein TEACHES at HARVARD and the IDIOT sunstein doesn’t even understand the concepts of STARE DECISIS and INTERPRETATION of ORIGINAL INTENT.

    “Mommas don’t let your babies grow up to be Harvard “lawyers”

  14. Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people

    Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Abraham Lincoln: “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

    Our Founding Fathers never intended for us to be lorded over by corrupt criminals in the White House and Congress. To the contrary, our Founding Fathers intended for We the People to have control over our Government and our politicians.

    That is one of the primary reasons that they bestowed upon us that extraordinary Bill of Rights which provided for the Grand Jury System controlled by the people not the politicians.

    In our Founding Fathers’ prescient wisdom, they designed a Grand Jury System in which no man, not even the President of the United States, is above the Law.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

  15. End this Nightmare already!!

  16. CW-Free Speech-other lawyers here at CW and concerned citizens
    Citizens on all the blogs are discussing voter fraud-past (extensive and listing what they had encountered) and remedies for the election which is now about a month a way. Some of the suggestions if people witnessed voter fraud were: Call your local media-I would say have the number with you before you go. If possible get name(s)-I would get a general description also (in case this is a case of identity theft) video what you can. Document everything that you witnessed-date, time, location-those involved-on day of election send information to a conservative web-site. Does anyone else have more suggestions, is there a national web-site where voter fraud can be documented especially for future reference-just so there is a record of the fraud. The national web-site should not be connected to federal government, they are not to be trusted.

  17. Margie @ 11:24 am |
    “End this Nightmare already!!”
    We’re trying our level best. You can’t say Andrew isn’t all in. Here he is in Hollywood-I hope you enjoy this.
    http://breitbart.tv/
    Breitbart Fires-Up Tea Party 90210
    September 27, 2010 at 3:01 am – Home Video
    Dateline: Beverly Hills
    Andrew Breitbart addressed the first ever, Beverly Hills Tea Party event on Sunday.

  18. Aussie – September 27, 2010, 9:56 pm (yesterday)
    ======================================
    I agree with you that Obama is a crypto-Muslim. That is the main problem, as well as, how was he able to become President? How was he–then and now–able to keep all his personal records out of reach? How is he able to keep the Media, to include the Conservative Media, away from investigating him? How is he able to do that?

    Is the way he is able to keep his records out of reach because they are “classified” by some agency of our government? Would it be that agency that is being put on the spot, with the “birther” issue, not Obama? Could he care less? How can he keep everything out of circulation by himself and hamstring the Media as well, especially the Conservative Media to include Talk Radio? There is obviously a “hands off” policy.

    Very few want to acknowledge the obvious: Obama got to be President by very powerful backing within our government as well as from abroad. His personal records are classified.

    Here’s what we are being told: Obama is a Christian. He got to be President by due process. There’s nothing in his background we need concern ourselves with. We Conservatives simply need to defeat him in the coming elections (Tea Party). Those who are “birthers” can try the courts.

    It appears to me that an agency of the government has created the monster. Obama is part and parcel of a murch larger problem, part of what Ian Johnson describes in his book, A MOSQUE INMUNICH: NAZIS, THE CIA & THE RISE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN THE WEST.

    I enjoy participating in the discussion here, but my work does not allow me to maintain a constant presence. I’m gone for days at a time with no internet access. Looks like I’m going to be gone for awhile again. Will catch up when I get back. Peace to you all (Shalom Aleichem).

  19. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 11:29 am |
    CW-Free Speech-other lawyers here at CW and concerned citizens
    Citizens on all the blogs are discussing voter fraud-past (extensive and listing what they had encountered) and remedies for the election which is now about a month a way. Some of the suggestions if people witnessed voter fraud were: Call your local media-I would say have the number with you before you go. If possible get name(s)-I would get a general description also (in case this is a case of identity theft) video what you can. Document everything that you witnessed-date, time, location-those involved-on day of election send information to a conservative web-site. Does anyone else have more suggestions
    ================================================
    Michelle, I could not have given better instructions myself.

    Sam gave a link to this site yesterday. We need to organize like they did in Texas across the Nation.

    http://www.truethevote.org/true-the-vote/volunteer

  20. My response was to Aussie’s post Sept 26, not Sept 27

  21. I promised myself not to post here until FS and CW got the psyop trolls off of this thread, but this is important if true. No need to panic just want you all to be made aware. Blessings to all, Helen

  22. Just getting ready to take off, then saw at Drudge, that the Obama Administration is asking Congress for powers to “wiretap” the Internet.

    http://www.startribune.com/nation/103836983.html

    Thought I’d pass this on. Looks like they’re coming for us.

  23. Free Speech…………………………………
    If we dislike the Harvard PRODUCE so greatly pray tell what would we do with YALE,or Princeton products. LOL. This probably could even apply by proxy to either a Stanford, Oxford,or Cambridge product as well………..do you suppose that they all might be SOMEWHAT overrated?

  24. The biggest problem with the ad is that it needs to emphasize that the Supreme Court gave us a definition in Minor v. Happersett and upheld that definition in Wong Kim Ark.

    “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

    The Minor decision tied this defintion directly to Art. II Sec. I: “This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides [n6] that “no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President, …”

    Wong Kim Ark reaffirmed this definition by citing it again and stressing that natural-born citizen is defined outside the constitution, while the citizenship they said applied to its plaintiff was that of simply being a citizen of the United States. “The Constitution of the United States, as originally adopted, uses the words “citizen of the United States,” and “natural-born citizen of the United States.”

    They tell us the former is addressed within the Constitution by the 14th amendment: “The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.””

    Then they explained: “In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.””

    Here they very clearly make a distinction: ‘citizen of the United States’ defined in the Constitution via the 14th amendment . ‘Natural born citizen’ defined outside of the Constitution. Then they repeat the same definition given in Minor.

    There’s no need to talk about Vattel. The Supreme Court says it all and their words will hold more weight.

  25. ZACH……………………………….
    Thanks for the POST&EMAIL link. I almost missed it. I dearly love to read the Post & Email. Have a great day sir.

  26. Free Speech at 11:06 am

    “Mommas don’t let your babies grow up to be Harvard “lawyers”

    ————————————————-
    Good one FS. But we might want to revise it some.

    “Mommas don’t let your red diaper doper babies grow up to be Harvard “lawyers”, judges, teachers, doctors, accountants, congressmen, etc.

  27. Only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected, this figure seems high to me-I think 20 percent would be more like it, hold a favorable view of him on a personal level? that makes less sense, maybe someone is being generous or kind.
    POLITICO / George Washington University Battleground Poll.
    Only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected, even though a majority of voters hold a favorable view of him on a personal level. Forty-four percent said they will vote to oust him, and 13 percent said they will consider voting for someone else.
    Get full poll results.
    It’s Obama’s policies that are hurting him right now. By a 13-point margin, voters are down on the health care law. In an especially troubling sign, more than half of self-identified independents — 54 percent — have an unfavorable opinion of the law, compared with just 38 percent who have a favorable opinion.
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42737.html#ixzz10kTxZcnQ

  28. Helen | September 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm |
    I promised myself not to post here until FS and CW got the psyop trolls off of this thread, but this is important if true. No need to panic just want you all to be made aware. Blessings to all, Helen
    =========================================

    Sounds like bo’s BIO/Chemical Weapon of Mass Destruction Terrorist Attack on the People of the Gulf & Atlantic States is about to have unintended consequences for the Criminal in Chief and his co-conspirators.

  29. U.S. President Barack Obama and his administration weakened the country’s economy by seeking to foster growth instead of paying down the federal debt, said Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of “The Black Swan.”

    Obama did exactly the opposite of what should have been done
    http://tinyurl.com/32qv76m

  30. ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    Thank you ksdb.

  31. ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    Good points, however, when the current SCOTUS reviews the consolidated cases against bo, they will cite Vattel in their ruling, a citation of Vattel is essential as per Original Intent.

  32. Michelle at 12:40 pm |

    Only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected, this figure seems high to me

    ————————————————————–
    He still has almost 90% support from blacks. Until they wake up, his favorable numbers will probably remain in the forties.

    Blacks and Whites Continue to Differ Sharply on Obama
    http://tinyurl.com/2fyerxf

    Why Do Over 90% of Blacks Still Support Obama?
    http://tinyurl.com/2annek5

  33. Helen, That vid you put up is from a few days ago. The original poster (Smokin’ Joe) already took it down and put up a new vid yesterday saying it was uncomfirmed and not really happening. He already took that vid down also, I was trying to get it to put up for you. I think we all need to be ready for anything to happen. Be prepared, so we are not caught off guard.

  34. Philo Publius………………………………..
    I am in the ongoing process of RE READING OUR CONSTITUTION in it’s entirety. (not done in one day). So far I remain convinced that the LANGUAGE which was used by the DRAFTERS WAS,AND STILL IS not for interpretation in any shape or form. The Constitution means exactly what it says. Today we seem to have our share of LANGUAGE TWISTING PEOPLE who think that the meaning of anything written by anyone should be interpreted. I respectfully disagree. If somebody is so incompetent that he cannot write exactly what he sees in his mind’s eye, then it might be better if he/she pursued some other venture, and not write at all.

  35. This was a comment left at Breitbart.tv-Tea Party polling well above Obama (no explanation needed for that). Go Tea Party.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-fires-up-tea-party-90210/
    Dave_in_Oregon 110p
    The Tea Party is now more powerful than President Obama http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/10….
    Who would have predicted this a year ago? Certainly not the complacent army of White House spin doctors who have failed to grasp, let alone acknowledge, the momentous political transformation that is
    sweeping America. CNN’s latest poll
    confirms that the Tea Party movement has more political clout than the
    President of the United States in influencing voters during this
    November’s mid-terms. While just 37 percent of Americans are more likely
    to vote for a candidate if backed by Barack Obama, a far larger 50
    percent will vote for a Tea-Party endorsed candidate.
    As CNN puts it:
    A solid majority of all Americans — 56 percent — say that Obama has fallen short of their expectations. As a result, the president is not in a position to help struggling Democratic candidates;
    only 37 percent of likely voters say they are more likely to vote for a
    congressional candidate backed by Obama.
    The reason for the Tea Party’s stunning success and President Obama’s equally remarkable decline is relatively simple. A truly popular grassroots movement has captured the fears and concerns of tens of
    millions of Americans over the relentless rise of Big Government and the
    growing threat to economic and individual freedom under the Obama
    administration, while channeling their hopes and aspirations for the
    future based upon a return to the founding ideals of the Constitution.
    (more)

  36. Philo-Publius | September 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm |
    Free Speech at 11:06 am

    “Mommas don’t let your babies grow up to be Harvard “lawyers”

    ————————————————-
    Good one FS. But we might want to revise it some.

    “Mommas don’t let your red diaper doper babies grow up to be Harvard “lawyers”, judges, teachers, doctors, accountants, congressmen, etc.
    ===========================================
    LOL!

    “I went to Harvard and all I got was this LOUSY T-SHIRT!”

  37. Democrat’s Own Extremists Taking The Local Parties Over?

    Michael Barone…has noted an interesting trend in Democrat politics: unions are knocking out regular liberal Democrats in America’s big cities. Barone calls it a civil war raging in the Democrat Party.

    He points to several big city campaigns in which unions rose up to defeat the “gentry liberals,” as Barone calls them, and have replaced them in primaries with union backed, ultra liberals.

    http://tinyurl.com/38y9mbb

    Yes and then they run ads posing as Conservatives to get elected by uneducated big city voters.

  38. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 11:29 am |
    CW-Free Speech-other lawyers here at CW and concerned citizens
    Citizens on all the blogs are discussing voter fraud-past (extensive and listing what they had encountered) and remedies for the election which is now about a month a way.
    ==============================================
    Here’s another story that should go viral. 100 Somalis who don’t speak English voted in the August Missouri primary election. The losing dem candidate challenged the election in court. At the end of the day, Judge Stephen Nixon, ruled against Royster. No new election, no serious recount.

    Sneak Preview: The Hijacking of the 2010 Election

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/sneak_preview_the_hijacking_of.html

  39. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 12:52 pm |
    This was a comment left at Breitbart.tv-Tea Party polling well above Obama (no explanation needed for that). Go Tea Party.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-fires-up-tea-party-90210/
    Dave_in_Oregon 110p
    The Tea Party is now more powerful than President Obama http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/10….

    =========================================

    We are witnessing a slow, agonizing demRat SUICIDE BY bo.

  40. Michelle……………………………
    I both suspect ,and hope that the 37% who would again vote for the OBOTS in the Senate,or any other office is a DIMINISHING value. Hopefully by November it will be something like 10%.

  41. Dem Whip: GOP majority will issue birther subpoenas against Obama
    By Jordan Fabian – 09/27/10 12:08 PM ET

    House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) warned Republicans will investigate President Obama’s birthplace if they take over Congress.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121059-rep-clyburn-gop-majority-will-issue-birther-subpoenas-against-ob

  42. Thank you OldSalt76!

    This is interesting. It shows what Dems really fear.

    Dem Whip: GOP majority will issue birther subpoenas against Obama
    The Hill ^ | 09/27/10 12:08 PM ET | Jordan Fabian

  43. Philo-here is a perfect example-this is in FL-nowhere in the campaign ad, or the campaign speech does she say she is a Dem. on the commercials down here “Paid for by Democratic Party” is at the very end and in black so it is impossible to read (almost). I just happen to know she is a Dem, opposition ad says she voted with Obama 98 per cent of the time. Sister you’re are history.
    Philo-Publius @ 12:58 pm |
    “Yes and then they run ads posing as Conservatives to get elected by uneducated big city voters.”

    below copy/pasted from elsewhere not from her video
    Political advertisement paid for and approved by Alex Sink, Democrat, for Governor.

  44. Free Speech | September 27, 2010 at 12:50 pm |

    Who are ‘they’ you are referring to? Minor gave Vattel’s definition but didn’t cite Vattel as the source. There’s not really a need, although it could certainly be used as a secondary source. In Ankeny v. Daniels, the Indiana Appeals Court mischaracterized and downplayed Vattel, “The Plaintiffs do not mention the above United States Supreme Court authority in their complaint or brief; they primarily rely instead on an eighteenth century treatise and quotations of Members of Congress made during the nineteenth century.” The ‘eighteenth century treatise was Vattel’s Law of Nations. The quotations were from the authors of 14th amendment. So in this particular court, they were not acknowledging original intent. And they made a bizarre argument that the Minor definition of natural born citizen (which was tied specifically to Art. II Sec. I), ” the Court left open the issue of whether a person who is born within the United States of alien parents is considered a natural born citizen.” They also said, via footnote, “Note that the Court in Minor contemplates only scenarios where both parents are either citizens or aliens, rather in the case of President Obama, whose mother was a U.S. citizen and father was a citizen of the United Kingdom.”

    These are silly objections and characterizations, but knowing this ahead of time would allow such arguments to be countered. Second, this court acknowledged that contrary to the phantom guidance they claimed to have divined from Wong Kim Ark, “the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a “natural born Citizen” using the Constitution‟s Article II language.” Also, Wong Kim Ark didn’t deal with a situation like Obama’s, so the court made a logical fallacy in claiming guidance that would would resolves questions about his citizenship. Much of the dicta suggests otherwise. Second, Wong Kim Ark affirmed citizenship on the basis of the plaintiffs parents having permanent domicil and residence in the United States. Such was not the case for either of Obama’s parents.

  45. Jonah | September 27, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 11:29 am |
    CW-Free Speech-other lawyers here at CW and concerned citizens
    Citizens on all the blogs are discussing voter fraud-past (extensive and listing what they had encountered) and remedies for the election which is now about a month a way.
    ==============================================
    Here’s another story that should go viral. 100 Somalis who don’t speak English voted in the August Missouri primary election. The losing dem candidate challenged the election in court. At the end of the day, Judge Stephen Nixon, ruled against Royster. No new election, no serious recount.

    Sneak Preview: The Hijacking of the 2010 Election

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/sneak_preview_the_hijacking_of.html

    ================================================

    Same thing is happening in Tennessee. demRat bo cohorts gov. bredesen and mayor karl dean are aiding and abetting MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD in Nashville, much of which involves muslim Somalis imported to TN by the CRIMINALLY CORRUPT bredesen & dean REGIMES in Tennessee.

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  46. Michelle…………………………..
    In light of all that the ALLEGED POTUS, and the NINCOMPOOPS IN Congress,have done to this country SO FAR, I cling to the notion that in November we will witness the political demise, of enough OBOTS that the PATRIOTS will be able to once again take back Congress, and every day,week ,and month thereafter, new inditements of treason and high crimes are sent down by a FEDERAL GRAND JURY. I personally think that nearly ALL of Congress and nearly all of the DOJ, should face possible impisonment, and severe fines for their part in covering up BO crimes. This also includes the REMOVAL of ALL Federal Judges who also voluntarily chose to be complicent in the crime against this country……..called TREASON.

  47. Free Speech @ 1:05 pm |
    “We are witnessing a slow, agonizing demRat SUICIDE BY bo.” and didn’t so many Dems (Phil Berg and others) in early 08 and many other concerned citizens from across the nation tell them to call the suicide prevention hot line, did they listen NO. Barack H. Obama-H stands for hemlock. They chose their poison and now they have to live with it. I read somewhere “Hell hath no fury, like a Democrat scorned” they got that part right. We are for a return to our Constitutional Republic, Obama still opposed to our Constitution, he and minions- please take a long walk off a short pier-try Navy Pier in Chicago.

  48. Re: Jonah | September 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm |

    Great news Jonah!! Congress, however should be doing this already!! Thank God for CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret.) and Attorney Mario Apuzzo, Esquire’s lawsuit. Thank God for CDR Charles Kerchner’s and Attorney Mario Apuzzo, Esquire’s extraordinary greatest love for 310 + Million Americans and for the USA, and for their extraordinarily excellent work they are doing to try to save the USA.

    Americans should be praying and marching together in the streets demanding that federal law enforcement in the USA must, “Immediately Arrest the Foreign Indonesian citizen, who is a 100% Illegal Alien and a 100% Illegal Immigrant, Barry Soetoro Soebarkah alias Barack Hussein Obama II who is not even a legal USA citizen, and who is a Serial Criminal Con-Man Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Combatant who is waging a Coup D’Etat War on the USA, and who is working to Overthrow the USA Government and to Destroy the USA Sovereignty!!!”

  49. oldsalt79 @ 1:06 pm | We are in for one exciting month before the election, this is where we have to be very alert and dig into our foxholes and preserve our Constitutional Republic from evil-doers wherever they may be.

  50. Too funny!
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2597078/posts
    Busted: Cops Find Pot in Man’s New Jeep; He Gets Off Because it’s a Chrysler
    Monday, September 27, 2010 1:23:29 PM · by toma29 · 3 replies
    Useful Info Nation ^ | 9/27/2010 | Thomas Bryan
    Maybe things are looking up for Chrysler as it seeks buyers of its brand. Pot smokers and people who drink and drive from all over are flocking to dealerships to trade in their Fords for what many are calling their “get out of jail free card.” But it wasn’t just the My Fox Detroit story about Chrysler workers smoking weed and drinking alcohol during their lunch breaks that has them in the buying mood. No, it’s Darryl Dawson’s story. On Friday, Darryl Dawson was on his way home after buying a new Jeep Grand Cherokee when he decided to celebrate…

  51. Free Speech…………………………..
    Should the SCOTUS get involved,and should they cite Vattell as the foundation of any ruling then it is probably ALL OVER for Soetoro. If they DO NOT get involved,and it remains the job of Congress then soon after the Congress is retaken the FEDERAL GRAND JURY neesds to be convened. I do not remember what basis is required to convene the FEDERAL GJ,but hopefully there will be more than enough YEAS. Further I think that one indictment will like dominos lead to another,and another….

  52. Jonah @ 1:10 pm | This is what bothers me. I kept my Dem registration but I’m now Tea Party-say I robbed a bank-a crime-the Democrats are in power I don’t get arrested (I’m considered misunderstood), I do the same crime when the Republicans are in power this time I’m arrested and convicted of the crime. To me a crime is a crime, it should be treated the same no matter which party is in power-it just looks like more corruption to me.

  53. OT, but someone made reference to this a couple of threads back:

    This quote was translated into English from an article in the Czech Republic paper, Prager Zeitung, on 28 April 2010:

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
    The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
 
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

    The more I observe the shallow thinking of our people, the easier it is to see how this usurper was voted in. Of course, voter fraud and a very sympathetic media played a part, but, nonetheless, there are a lot of empty heads out there who probably don’t even know what the Constitution is. Getting rid of Obama is mandatory, but getting rid of him won’t automatically correct everything. We are fools if we think it will.

  54. oldsalt79 @ 1:19 pm | When the rule of law is reinstated in DC, we will just have to follow the evidence to where it leads, we know some of the major players, but not all-more will come to light I’m sure as people start turning states evidence-if some haven’t flipped already (reading the handwriting on the wall). Can you imagine a Dem wondering around DC thinking did one or the other flip on me-no honor among theives ? Maybe the whole town is suffering from Nixon paranoia?

  55. government, they are not to be trusted.

    Sam Sewell | September 27, 2010 at 11:31 am | Local Tea Party group may have uncovered massive vote fraud in Texas
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/09/local-tea-party-group-may-have.html

    Until this nation returns to paper ballots, this is like saving the Titanic with a bucket!!

  56. Starla……………………….
    I remain hopeful that between the recent DOJ expose,the CONTRIVED trial of LTC LAKIN,and the ONGOING court action of Commander Kerchner will together cause enough disarray of the LIBERALS at the TOP, and even moreso in between that you will hear the constant splashes of their departure of their steadily and now even faster sinking ship. But we do need an additional torpedo as an expediant to rid the surface of the otherwise clean sea of this accumulated SLIME. I am hopeful that Commander Kerchner and his attorney will fire the final torpedo.

  57. Jonah | September 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm |
    Dem Whip: GOP majority will issue birther subpoenas against Obama
    By Jordan Fabian – 09/27/10 12:08 PM ET

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121059-rep-clyburn-gop-majority-will-issue-birther-subpoenas-against-ob

    House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) warned Republicans will investigate President Obama’s birthplace if they take over Congress.

    Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in the House, said Republicans will grind the government to a halt by issuing subpoenas against the Obama administration over a number of issues if they take power. prevail.

    Clyburn noted that Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the ranking Republican on the House Oversight panel, has said will will issue “subpoenas everywhere” if Republicans win the majority.
    ============================================
    I suspect that what clyburn fears most is that he will join bo in prison for the CRIMES of VOTE FRAUD & IDENTITY THEFT in South Carolina in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

  58. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Helen | September 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    ===============================

    Presumably you think CW is your friend. But why include FS? He has trashed you harder than anybody! Or is it simply that his rants are ineffective and you only hate people who effectively challenge you? Besides, if FS had the ability to ban anyone, this blog would be pretty “thin”. I fact, you would be high on his list of people to ban.

  59. “It was a true Tea Party moment,” she remembers.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/09/local-tea-party-group-may-have.html

    True the Vote appears to have made some pretty significant discoveries, including one blockbuster revelation possibly connecting the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) to vote fraud in Houston:

    Their work paid off. Two weeks ago the Harris County voter registrar took their work and the findings of his own investigation and handed them over to both the Texas secretary of state’s office and the Harris County district attorney.
    =========================================

    This is what Patriots in every State in America need to do.

  60. Cabby AZ……………………………..
    I have a GUT feeling that PRAGAR ZEITUNG is awfully close to the real root of our social problem . I personally see it as one having a root with our young college grads who think up is down and left is right. You might disagree with me but as I said this is only my opinion. Until we are able to instill a common sense factor of reasoning in our young people we might still have a severe and continual problem in the US. It was the lack of reasoning by such people that allowed Soetoro to be elected in the first place.

  61. Obot Carlyle (BO) | September 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    Actually, obot-carlyle, I am enjoying seeing you let out of moderation from time to time, now that we have outed U obot and made a utter fool out of you.

    ROLMAO @ OBOT-carlyle, sunstein’s CLOWN PRINCE OBOT

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/02/winning-against-obots-and-astroturfers.html

  62. Paxson | September 27, 2010 at 2:06 pm |
    Why would they be worried? No reason to worry if there are no issues.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121059-rep-clyburn-gop-majority-will-issue-birther-subpoenas-against-ob?page=2#comments

    ==========================================

    bo co-conspirators are SCARED CHITLESS now. The smart ones are providing States Evidence. The dumb ones are doing the same ole blame the big bad republicans over and over again expecting a different result. demRats never learn.

  63. Free Speech @ 2:15 pm
    Paxson @ 2:06 pm |
    “Why would they be worried? No reason to worry if there are no issues.” A point well taken DUH how could I have missed that obvious indication.
    ” The smart ones are providing States Evidence.”
    Can you imagine any Dem walking down the hallways wondering did this person rat me out, the level of paranoia must be to the stratosphere. Maybe Dr. Reid and Nurse Nancy will help-just tell a few more lies to keep them happy. Lies and cover-ups Nixon admin on steroids, hopefully this will be finalized at a faster pace than Watergate. Talk about a long national nightmare.

  64. 2:06 pm —

    From the link:

    “House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) warned Republicans will investigate President Obama’s birthplace if they take over Congress.”
    ===========
    Some info on James Clyburn from jbjd’s site:

    “REELING IN the REAL JIM CLYBURN”

    http://jbjd.org/2010/09/22/reeling-in-real-jim-clyburn/

    “ONLY CLYBURN’S PALM GETTING GREASED in the PALMETTO SIXTH”

    http://jbjd.org/2010/09/27/clyburn-palm-greased-palmetto/

  65. Re: Paxson | September 27, 2010 at 2:06 pm |
    Why would they be worried? No reason to worry if there are no issues.

    # # #
    Everything about Barry Soetoro Soebarkah ALIAS Barack Hussein Obama II is 100% Illegal, and constant Taqiyya Muslim lies as the 100% Illegal Alien, & the 100% Illegal Immigrant 100% Foreign Born Serial Criminal Con-Man Usurper Barry Soetoro Soebarkah ALIAS Barack Hussein Obama II continues on his Constant Massive Crime Spree in the USA!

    ALL Americans should be DEMANDING complete transparency about the birthright birth documents and records, and the birth citizenship and the current citizenship of ANY & ALL USA presidents!! People who are not seeking political office have to show citizenship records daily. Citizenship questions are LEGAL QUESTIONS NOT Political Questions. Congress and the USA Judiciary, and the the USA Military (because of Lt. Col. Dr. Terrence Lakin’s horrible problems with them) are literally aiding & abetting a Foreign Born Domestic Enemy War Combatant named the 100% Illegal Immigrant 100% Illegal Alien Serial Criminal 100% Foreign Usurper Barry Soetoro Soebarak ALIAS Barack Hussein Obama II who is literally WAGING WAR against every USA American citizen and with the USA!!

    I have told Americans what Lord Jesus Christ has told to me about Barry Soetoro Soebarkah/Barack Hussein Obama II. I will continue speaking until the USA law enforcement listens.

  66. The Democrats in Congress talk about the “birther” issue more than the Republicans. When it comes out, the Democrat party is going to be reduced to the dustbin of history.

  67. Zach Jones @ 1:31 pm |
    re: the Chrysler drug scandal. As far as I know most corporations are “Drug Free Workplace”-who would want to purchase a vehicle from workers who were high while working-the defect level could be staggering. Where are their bosses? What if someone gets hurt/killed on the job? It’s been known to happen. The insurance carrier? do they have a negation clause, due to drug, alcohol use on the job? or do they just raise the rates? I’m sure many people are going to get into big trouble about this and they were so flagrant.

  68. If there was an Academy Award For Quotes, this would be my choice. cc(fubo) quoted it yesterday from a quote.

    “The American nation will survive Obama but will not survive the type of people who would elect an Obama.”

    I just now saw the quote is from Prager Zeitung, on 28 April 2010, posted by Cabby-AZ. A real nugget BUT a sad and true statement.

  69. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    I wonder if CW even ever reads his own blog anymore. I thought it would be interesting to do a quick analysis of who posts here and how often and the nature of their posts. I found that CW only posted here once or twice in the last few days.

    But even more interesting is this list. I identified 48 different posters, and the frequency of posting for each, over the weekend and into today. Other blogs prohibit FLAMERS (as Dean M noted, TD used to run a pretty tight and sane blog), or at least strongly warn the poster to not engage in FLAMING. Herewith are some interesting statistics.

    For the purposes of this list I have marked flaming as extreme personal attacks and hate speech. I have scored nothing against anyone because I disagreed with them (for instance I have scored all CGJ and Oil Hysteria comments as OK, even though I disagree with them), but only the really uncivilized and barbaric stuff.

    I even scored some FLAMES against myself because even I too get frustrated from time to time. Perhaps the most important thing you can ask yourself: If someone FLAMES someone else, is it because the flamee has themselves actually been uncivilized or barbaric, or simply that the flamer disagrees with the flamee? The latter is never acceptable, the former is acceptable only under repeated and extreme duress.

    So, folks, a little introspection: Who is who, and what is what? If CW will not police this blog, let us each be a little more proactive in calling out the offenders. (And, yes, that means you can call me out also – if I violate rules of sane and productive discusion, but, no, you cannot dump on anybody simply because you disagree with them.) Can we all agree with this and police ourselves?

    p01        117 ( incl 37 flames )
    p02        48 ( incl 11 flames )
    p03        38
    p04        34 ( incl 2 flames )
    p05        23
    p06        23
    p07        16
    p08        15
    p09        15
    p10        13
    p11        12
    p12        11
    p13        10
    p14        10
    p15        10 ( incl 2 flames )
    p16        9
    p17        9
    p18        7 ( incl 2 flames )
    p19        7
    p20        7 ( incl 2 flames )
    p21        6
    p22        6
    p23        5
    p24        5
    p25        4
    p26        4
    p27        4
    p28        3
    p29        3
    p30        2
    p31        2
    p32        2
    p33        2
    p34        2
    p35        1
    p36        1
    p37        1
    p38        1
    p39        1
    p40        1
    p41        1
    p42        1
    p43        1
    p44        1
    p45        1
    p46        1
    p47        1
    p48        1
    

    Finally, as you can see, the FLAMING activity is limited to only a few individuals. So, yes, there is some hope of controlling it.

  70. So why is Clyburn so worried? Didn’t he and the DNC assure the American people that Dinglebarry was a “Native Citizen” with nothing to hide?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/121059-rep-clyburn-gop-majority-will-issue-birther-subpoenas-against-ob?page=2#comments

  71. Paxson @ 2:41 pm |
    ” the Democrat party is going to be reduced to the dustbin of history.” As a recent former Dem now Tea Party they deserve this, since they worked so hard to earn it. We Tea Party people will not rest until all of the corrupting influences are out of DC.

  72. Re: oldsalt79 | September 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    I remain hopeful that between the recent DOJ expose,the CONTRIVED trial of LTC LAKIN,and the ONGOING court action of Commander Kerchner will together cause enough disarray of the LIBERALS at the TOP, and even moreso in between that you will hear the constant splashes of their departure of their steadily and now even faster sinking ship. But we do need an additional torpedo as an expediant to rid the surface of the otherwise clean sea of this accumulated SLIME. I am hopeful that Commander Kerchner and his attorney will fire the final torpedo.
    # # #
    “I am hopeful that Commander Kerchner and his attorney will fire the final torpedo.” Amen!! Oldsalt79, Let’s hope so!! I hope you are correct : ), or all hell will break loose because Barry Soetoro Soebarkah the Radical Islamic Muslim Indonesian Citizen, Serial Criminal Con-Man Madman Radical Communist/Fascist/Marxist will bring the USA into complete ruin unless he is ARRESTED because he is a FOREIGN SERIAL CRIMINAL ON A DAILY MASSIVE SERIAL CRIME SPREE IN THE USA and ALL I am asking is the USA Federal Law Enforcement Agents IMMEDIATELY ARREST THIS COMPLETE & TOTAL FOREIGN SERIAL CRIMINAL BARRY SOETORO SOEBARKAH!!

  73. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    ms. helga | September 27, 2010 at 2:42 pm |

    ===========================

    Yes it IS spectacular – and thanks for the kudos – but I was paraphrasing from memory – here is the correct quote from the correct source:

    The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

    A little more words but even more pointed! Remember, the constitutional process was never set up for Mob Vote – it was set up for Elector Vote – and this is a good example of the reason why.

  74. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 2:33 pm |
    Free Speech @ 2:15 pm
    Paxson @ 2:06 pm |
    “Why would they be worried? No reason to worry if there are no issues.” A point well taken DUH how could I have missed that obvious indication.
    ” The smart ones are providing States Evidence.”
    Can you imagine any Dem walking down the hallways wondering did this person rat me out, the level of paranoia must be to the stratosphere. Maybe Dr. Reid and Nurse Nancy will help-just tell a few more lies to keep them happy. Lies and cover-ups Nixon admin on steroids, hopefully this will be finalized at a faster pace than Watergate. Talk about a long national nightmare.

    ================================================

    Michelle, no doubt you know, President Nixon held on to power for 6 years. bo is already rendered powerless and it was his own Party that finally did him in.

    If the repubs win the House in Nov, I expect that bo will be suspended in IMPEACHMENT HELL for 2 more years so that the repubs can gather incriminating evidence on every demRat in State & Federal government in every State in the USA, and ANNIHILATE the demRat party down to the County level in 2012 .

    If the Clintons can take control of congress in Nov 2010, I expect that bo will be in a PRISON CELL at an undisclosed location by Dec. of 2010.

  75. “I’d rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.”

    William F. Buckley, Jr.

  76. Free Speech @ 2:52 pm |
    “If the Clintons can take control of congress in Nov 2010,” I think that they are working behind the scenes to salvage what little there is that remains of the party. I like the BO prison part by Dec 2010, quick is merciful for the American people, I just don’t know how they could accomplish this goal but if they do succeed I would hope that they would eliminate all corrupt Dems and others. The people are really disgusted with the corruption in DC- just had it.
    “repubs can gather incriminating evidence on every demRat in State & Federal government in every State in the USA, and ANNIHILATE the demRat party down to the County level in 2012 .”
    this scenario works well too. I wonder how many Dems would be left standing-10 I hope.

  77. Search the Web on Snap.com

    Great opportunity for prayer.

    Friday, October 1 9:00 your time
    Saturday, October 2 9:00 your time

    Pray fervently for the restoration of our nation to OUR God’s ways.

    We call upon the God in whom WE trust to deliver us from the ravages of sin, death, and the adversary.

    2 Chronicles 7:14

  78. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    CC, your diagnosis is right on. The problem is that the “blogmaster” right now dwells in some sort of fantasy world. Just my 2 cents worth.

  79. Search the Web on Snap.com

    Yep. Still in moderation.

    What is Search the Web on Snap.com, anyway?

  80. I forget, and why would the Clinton’s not be enjoying a jail cell next to Barky?

  81. This NBC/MSNBC week long focus on education is nothing but an extremely long infomercial for the Dems/Obama administration as a lead up to the elections.

  82. Old Salt 1:57 PM
    “I have a GUT feeling that PRAGAR ZEITUNG is awfully close to the real root of our social problem . I personally see it as one having a root with our young college grads who think up is down and left is right. You might disagree with me but as I said this is only my opinion”
    *************************************
    You have hit the nail on the head, Old Salt. I agree exactly with your opinion. More are now beginning to realize the problem, but our work will not be easy to try to undo all of the bad education. It will take years, not months or weeks to reverse the harm the progressives have done in our schools.

  83. Sam Sewell @ 3:00 pm |
    I didn’t understand Mr. William F. Buckley, Jr.’s statement when I was a kid, but I sure do now. As a Life Member of Mensa, I think they would have to get up pretty early in the morning to fool you. Is Life Member a new designation? did you have to take another test? I saw on 60 Minutes a story about the Mensa membership meeting in Las Vegas (?) it really looked like fun.

  84. Search the Web on Snap.com

    We need to get the True the Vote vid as a public service announcement at every media outlet that we can.

  85. Search the Web on Snap.com

    This moderation is definitely different than the one I experienced when I first signed on with a different moniker.

    C.W. — Could you please let me know the reasons for the moderation?

    A glitch in the system?

    My imagination is in overdrive right now.

    Have I been found worthy of being psy-opped, suppressed, excluded? If so, ALL RIGHT!!!

    What a hoot!!

    I

  86. Prairie | September 27, 2010 at 3:03 pm |

    I forget, and why would the Clinton’s not be enjoying a jail cell next to Barky?
    ================================================
    Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm |

    “If the Clintons can take control of congress in Nov 2010,” I think that they are working behind the scenes to salvage what little there is that remains of the party. I like the BO prison part by Dec 2010, quick is merciful for the American people, I just don’t know how they could accomplish this goal…
    ===============================================
    For the record, I don’t expect that the Clintons can salvage the demRat party, but I learned long ago not to underestimate the Clintons when it comes to politics.

    My Independent position is ANYBODY BUT bo.

  87. Prairie | September 27, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
    I forget, and why would the Clinton’s not be enjoying a jail cell next to Barky?
    *****************************
    It was such a long time ago, and folks have short memories, Prairie, but you are right.

  88. tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 12:51 pm |

    If you’re not scared yet…you’re not paying attention!!

  89. Jonah | September 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm |

    That’s the impression I got at the St. Louis rally, didn’t you??

  90. FS,
    Be careful what you wish for. An old familiar face may lul the masses back to sleep.

  91. Free Speech @ 3:23 pm |
    “For the record, I don’t expect that the Clintons can salvage the demRat party, but I learned long ago not to underestimate the Clintons when it comes to politics. ”
    I think what he is trying to do is limit the damage if possible, “My Independent position is ANYBODY BUT bo”-who should have never been installed in the first place-filth that corrupts the entire Dem party and any other enablers. Mr. Bill will give it a heck of a New York try that’s for sure. He may be one of the few politicians that understand how furious the American people really are with the Dem/Rep blame game, dumb decisions that the taxpayers get stuck with the bill, take care of their corrupt buddies. They have made DC into a den of thieves and the people are done with this garbage.

  92. Search the Web on Snap.com

    Philo-Publius | September 27, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    Great post. Thanks for the references. I will archive this info.

  93. Obot Carlyle (BO) | September 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm |

    “So, folks, a little introspection: Who is who, and what is what? If CW will not police this blog let us each be a little more proactive in calling out the offenders. (And, yes, that means you can call me out also )”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ U OBOT

    Will do, OC! U & UR head cheerleader R USELESS sunstein/bo OBOTS!

    I say that in the most polite & civil way possible.

    Btw, whatever happened to UR silly threat 2 WEEKS AGO to have me arrested for posting the Truth about U, bo & sunstein here on CW?

    Talk about LUNATIC TIN FOIL CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

    I have been viewing my Surveillance Cameras every day & I haven’t seen a single bo Black Helicopter, Not 1 bo government van, not 1 bo unmarked car with a big bo Antenna on top, nada!

    R U sure bo is still running this 2-b-bit-bo gubmint, OBOT carlyle?

    LOL! @ U OBOT!

  94. Search the Web on Snap.com

    tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    “I personally don’t believe that the people who think BS/BO is ineligible are fringe at all. I believe we are closer to the majority, and it’s growing every day.”
    _____________

    I agree!

    All my comments are going into moderation so you may never see this one, but I’m expressing my agreement anyway.

  95. I know this has already been hashed over….but regarding the FOIA requests of SAD’s passport records. What was the exact (verbatim) statement about her records for years 1960-1964?

    I am still convinced the passport records either SAD’s or O’s will be the leak in the dam.

    BTW, has the murder of Lt. Quarles Harris Jr. EVER been solved????

    And do ya’ll remember the story from Chanise Foxx? She was the one that said she and Divorah Adler created the COLB that was on the net. I guess that story was proven false, but for the life of me, I can’t remember for sure.
    There has been so many diversions put out, I just can’t remember. I certainly don’t want to send anyone on a wild goose chase (we don’t need more of that) I think that story was debunked, but now I am curious because it seemed to have just dropped off the radar. Anyone know for sure?

  96. Search the Web on Snap.com

    Sam Sewell | September 27, 2010 at 11:31 am |

    Gotta love those Tea Party Patriots.

  97. Credit Unions Bailed Out
    U.S. Backs $30 Billion in Bonds to Stabilize Key Institutions; Subprime Legacy

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499604575512254063682236.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

  98. Search the Web on Snap.com

    JJ | September 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    Well said.

    The opposition merely has to control the vote counts and the publication of the vote counts. All of our time, effort, energy and financial contributions are of no concern to them as long as they already control an assured outcome.

    I cheer for every report that we the people are onto them.

    All my comments are in moderation. Hope this one does eventually get to you.

  99. “R U sure bo is still running this 2-b-bit-bo gubmint, OBOT carlyle?”
    ***************************
    Mental derangement of the first order.

  100. Search the Web on Snap.com

    Jonah | September 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm |

    Whooo Hoooo!

    Why don’t the repubs get that started right now?

    Maybe they will get the Panthergate scandal going, too.

    aka o. pays for ALL his crimes.

  101. Look out bo! Another Gay Blade B-bo-Ball buddy is about to BITE IT!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias

    Alexi Giannoulias

    Alexi Giannoulias (pronounced /əˈlɛksi dʒəˈnuːli.əs/; or jeh-NOO’-lee-us) born March 16, 1976 is the Illinois State Treasurer. A Democrat, Giannoulias defeated Republican candidate State Senator Christine Radogno in November 2006 with 54 percent of the vote, becoming the first Democrat to hold the office in 12 years and, at the age of 30, the youngest State Treasurer in the nation.[2]

  102. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 3:46 pm |
    Free Speech @ 3:23 pm |
    “For the record, I don’t expect that the Clintons can salvage the demRat party, but I learned long ago not to underestimate the Clintons when it comes to politics. ”
    I think what he is trying to do is limit the damage if possible, “My Independent position is ANYBODY BUT bo”-who should have never been installed in the first place-filth that corrupts the entire Dem party and any other enablers. Mr. Bill will give it a heck of a New York try that’s for sure. He may be one of the few politicians that understand how furious the American people really are with the Dem/Rep blame game, dumb decisions that the taxpayers get stuck with the bill, take care of their corrupt buddies. They have made DC into a den of thieves and the people are done with this garbage.
    =========================================

    Newt & Sarah also get it. Btw did you see how President Clinton has been praising Sarah lately?

  103. JJ | September 27, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
    tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 12:51 pm |

    If you’re not scared yet…you’re not paying attention!!
    ________________
    All I’m saying is the guy that put up the vid. took it off because he said it was unconfirmed. I am definitely scared. Scared to death of what kind of country my kids will have to live in if we don’t get back to the constituion and honest, legit reps and pres. in washington. I said we need to be ready for anything. I am; I have extra food (lots of 20 year buckets of it), water and filters, ammo, and anything else we might need.

  104. ms. helga | September 27, 2010 at 2:42 pm |

    Ah, yes and add this quote:
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

  105. Search the Web on Snap.com | September 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm | We need to get the True the Vote vid as a public service announcement at every media outlet that we can.
    ~~~~~~
    One more time…Until this nation returns to paper ballots, this is like saving the Titanic with a bucket!!

  106. ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    The biggest problem with the ad is that it needs to emphasize that the Supreme Court gave us a definition in Minor v. Happersett and upheld that definition in Wong Kim Ark.

    “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
    *********************************************
    No; the SCOTUS does no such thing here. Only when the definition is contained in a “holding” of the case – here, “holding” is a term of art, meaning, it has a definition specific to the discipline, Constitutional law – AND the case is directly on point, that is, the case rests on a decision as to what is meant by Article II, section 1, “natural born.”

    Otherwise, anything said by members of the court is “dicta,” another term of art – “it was never doubted” (?) – meaning, ‘we’re just thinking aloud; ignore us.’

  107. Listen @ 6 minutes in to this Woman’s account of how her entire Family has been POISONED by bo’s Corexit POISONING.

  108. Search the Web on Snap.com | September 27, 2010 at 4:05 pm | JJ | September 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    Well said.

    The opposition merely has to control the vote counts and the publication of the vote counts. All of our time, effort, energy and financial contributions are of no concern to them as long as they already control an assured outcome.

    I cheer for every report that we the people are onto them.

    All my comments are in moderation. Hope this one does eventually get to you.
    !!!!!!
    Exit polling is the next best thing..but, damn what an awesome task.
    The Republican/Independent/TPP needs to have started that yesterday, not tomorrow!/

  109. Search the Web on Snap.com

    lol, you need to change your name….search the web on snap.com has been put into your reply box “name”

  110. jbjd | September 27, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
    ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 12:33 pm |
    =================================================
    What part of Vattel’s clear and concise Definition of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN do Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Democrats not understand?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.

    The following is the passage from Law of Nations that was used as the definition for a Natural Born Citizen by our Founding Fathers:

    “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

  111. tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 4:19 pm | JJ | September 27, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
    tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 12:51 pm |

    If you’re not scared yet…you’re not paying attention!!
    ________________
    All I’m saying is the guy that put up the vid. took it off because he said it was unconfirmed. I am definitely scared. Scared to death of what kind of country my kids will have to live in if we don’t get back to the constituion and honest, legit reps and pres. in washington. I said we need to be ready for anything. I am; I have extra food (lots of 20 year buckets of it), water and filters, ammo, and anything else we might need.
    ~~~~~
    Darn, you have JJ in Ky beat!!
    I do have about 1 and 1/2 year of food, water, 3 oil lamps, 1 coleman cooker, other supplies.
    Working on water filter (got bleach), sleeping bags, and generator, but property taxes are due this month.

  112. JJ | September 27, 2010 at 3:34 pm |
    ======================================
    JJ,
    Who was it said GOP would take back the House?
    Here’s a video of my photos. Haven’t figured out how to add audio yet.
    Don’t think you’re in any of them though.

    “GATEWAY TO NOVEMBER” TEA PARTY – SEPTEMBER 12, 2010 IN ST LOUIS UNDER THE GATEWAY ARCH

  113. Free Speech @ 4:19 pm |
    “Newt & Sarah also get it. Btw did you see how President Clinton has been praising Sarah lately?” and the Tea Party-but dig this, I saw him on TV this past week, he looked healthy to me-thin like Chelsea wanted. Read between the lines????
    http://www.globemagazine.com/
    Bill Clinton is at death’s door and courageously fighting for life, insiders tell GLOBE in a blockbuster exclusive. As the former President battles heart problems, friends say his daughter Chelsea and wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, are preparing for the worst. Only GLOBE brings you the gripping story.

  114. Zach Jones | September 27, 2010 at 5:01 pm |

    Update on Lt. Col. Lakin’s persecution:

    http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/

    September 27, 2010 @ 2 pm ET
    We have now filed our Petition for a Writ of Mandamus in the Army Court of Criminal Appeals, but the trial court is going to proceed with a hearing tomorrow (Tuesday) as scheduled. Stay tuned for more news after the hearing.
    =============================================

    Halelujah! Finally a Lawyer with sense enough to file a Writ of Mandamus.

    Col Lakin’s Lawyer’s should have a Writ prepared for SCOTUS as well.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  115. Col Lakin’s Lawyer’s should have a Writ prepared for SCOTUS as well.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

    As in Marbury, We the People shall prosecute our cases against Barrack Hussein Obama petitioning the United States Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus compelling Barrack Hussein Obama to abide by the Constitutional Contract that he entered into with We the People on January 20, 2009 and uphold his Oath to abide by the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution of the United States of America.

    It is stated in United States v. Butterworth, 18 S. Ct. 441, 169 U.S. 600 at 602 (1898),
    “The office of a writ of mandamus is to compel the performance of a duty resting upon the person to whom the writ is sent. That duty may have originated in one way or in another. It may, as alleged in the present case, have arisen from the acceptance of an office which has imposed the duty upon its incumbent. But no matter out of what fact or relations the duty has grown, what the law requires, and what it seeks to enforce by a writ of mandamus, is the personal obligation of the individual to whom it addresses the writ.”

  116. @ jbjd; It looks to me like Wong Kim Ark told us that Virginia Minor’s citizenship was part of the ‘holding.’ Am I misunderstanding??

    “The decision in that case was that a woman born of citizen parents within the United States was a citizen of the United States, although not entitled to vote, the right to the elective franchise not being essential to citizenship.”

    Justice Waite, in the Minor decision, was explicit that Minor was a natural born citizen (by virtue of being born in the country to citizen parents) and that her citizenship was NOT dependent on the 14th amendment, which was why they used Vattel’s definition. They also tied their ‘no doubt’ definition of natural born citizen with Art. II Sec. I.

  117. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
    Free Speech @ 4:19 pm |
    “Newt & Sarah also get it. Btw did you see how President Clinton has been praising Sarah lately?” and the Tea Party-but dig this, I saw him on TV this past week, he looked healthy to me-thin like Chelsea wanted. Read between the lines?
    ======================================
    That would be a Statesman like act by President Clinton. I would not be surprised to see the Clintons come out against bo full force after the Nov 2010 elections when it will not be seen as a betrayal of the few democrats worth saving.

  118. tennbrock | September 27, 2010 at 12:51 pm |
    Helen, That vid you put up is from a few days ago. The original poster (Smokin’ Joe) already took it down and put up a new vid yesterday saying it was uncomfirmed and not really happening. He already took that vid down also, I was trying to get it to put up for you. I think we all need to be ready for anything to happen. Be prepared, so we are not caught off guard.
    ________________________

    TB – he’s obviously b/c it’s right there in his YT account. I saw the other video and that has been taken down as you stated. This is the new vid and w/ – ALERT!!! MAKE THIS GO VIRAL – HOMELAND MOBILIZATION

    He mentions that he may be doing an update later today or tonight.

    Take it for what it’s worth. Totally up to you how serious or not you take it.

    Be safe and be prepared.

  119. http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/2010_09-27-venezuelan-voters-v-chavez.jpg
    Venezuelan’s voters went to the polls and changed Hugo’s equation.

  120. http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/27/breaking-rick-lazio-drops-out-of-new-york-governors-race-for-once-an-establishment-candidate-does-the-right-thing/
    FOX is reporting that Rick Lazio is dropping out of the New York Governor’s race…which should help Tea Party candidate Carl Paladino.
    This is a shocker, because so many Cocktail Party establishment favorites, like Lazio, decide to embark on fools’ errands and stay in the race just to siphon votes away from the conservative or Tea Party-backed candidates (see Charlie Crist, LeNa JaBrowski, and others).
    Keep monitoring the New York political pages today…let’s see how quickly Lazio’s backers get behind Paladino.
    When he beats Andrew Cuomo, it’s going to be quite an earthquake in the Empire State

  121. Helen, SmokinJoe is the one who put up the orig., he took it down, but a lot of others have put it up on their youtube accts. I just looked Smokin’Joe does not have it back up. His newest vids are about the aliens that are coming, that Fox is talking about.
    I do agree we all need to be prepared and stay safe.

  122. Michelle | September 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm |
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/27/breaking-rick-lazio-drops-out-of-new-york-governors-race-for-once-an-establishment-candidate-does-the-right-thing/
    FOX is reporting that Rick Lazio is dropping out of the New York Governor’s race…which should help Tea Party candidate Carl Paladino.

    =======================================

    Paladino has pledged that if elected he will order the Secretary of State of New York to CONDEMN and SHUT DOWN bo’s GZ Terror mosque. GO PALADINO!

  123. More fraud ???, citizen journalist aggravating citizen congressmen with questions-either no comment, or no anwers.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/pigford-supporters-mum-over-reports-of-massive-fraud-in-multi-billion-dollar-settlement/
    When asked by a citizen on the street, Congressmen can’t answer a simple question about the pending Pigford settlement which is under a cloud of fraud allegations.

  124. http://www.breitbart.tv/rev-wayne-perryman-details-the-racist-history-of-the-democratic-party/
    Rev. Perryman at The Beverly Hills Tea Party: “They may proclaim that the Tea Party is racist, while they ignore the fact that unlike the Democratic Party, the Tea Party never formed terrorist organizations, they never fought integration, they never supported segregation, they never bombed black churches, they never burned black communities, then they never tried to hide a racist past. “

  125. I may be reading too much into this, but I think we had some more Glenn-speak today. CW did a great job last week(way ahead of the curve, I might add) with the video he put up questioning whether GB was signaling to the birthers.

    Now today, perhaps in response to the Post & email article, he leads his program with a story on the (older and poor selling) books that are now selling like hotcakes. He mentions “The Road to Serfdom” and “Prairie Fire” The same 2 books mentioned in the above article. He then goes into how the progressives seek to change the constitution…….(as in, who cares if the O is not a NBC?)

    I might be wishfully thinking, but it sure seemed odd to me, that he would open his show with the book story. It has been well advertised that he is another OWinfrey when it comes to recommending books. Why use that as a lead in???

  126. Honor First……………………………
    I would bet that if you can find the passport records before 1965 and obtain certified copies of all the pertinent documents including POE customs, you will have a potential small fortune in your hands. Of course nothing ventured nothing gained. It would seem that a hell of a lot of people would like to OWN such documents. Go get em bud, the sky is the limit.

  127. Free Speech……………………………
    I would now tend to think that the MANDAMUS will be thrown out as NOT RELAVENT, or similar grounds.

  128. Our national news is on-CBS-Katie Couric-our ace media, you can’t fool them, their announcement for this evening-political ads going negative-both sides-big surprise there. This one cracked me up. I’ve been wondering about these three for quite awhile.
    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2010/08/sharron_angle_a_1.php
    Sharron Angle Ad: ‘The Most Tragic Love Story of Our Time’

  129. Oldsalt79, do you happen to know the exact words used as to why through FOIA, the SAD passport records for 1960-64 were not sent?

  130. It would now appear the ” Glinoleum” will start growing more tentacles with which he can sneak into everybody’s hip pocket, the same way he robbed his own bank of over $70,000,000.00. He is a CHEAP ,SLIMEY little creep, and his being elected clearly shows the STATE OF MIND of those who voted for him.

  131. ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 5:30 pm |

    @ jbjd; It looks to me like Wong Kim Ark told us that Virginia Minor’s citizenship was part of the ‘holding.’ Am I misunderstanding??
    **************************************
    Here is the issue decided in Wong Kim Ark.

    A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution,

    All person born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZS.html

    Thus, the issue in Wong is citizenship, only.

    Minor presented a voting rights issue, implicating state versus federal rights.

    The fourteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States, in its first section, thus ordains; [n1]

    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction, the equal protection of the laws.”

    And the constitution of the State of Missouri [n2] thus ordains:

    “Every male citizen of the United States shall be entitled to vote.”

    Under a statute of the State all persons wishing to vote at any election, must previously have been registered in the manner pointed out by the statute, this being a condition precedent to the exercise of the elective franchise.
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZS.html

  132. Honor First……………………………
    While I don’t know the exact words used I got the impression that the GAO was telling him that because many records were determined to have little or no value they were DESTROYED for that ALLEGED reason. Yet somewhere on the documents of that department,there was wording that implied all passport records are vital information and have been kept by the GAO since 1925. What I have said here is in my own choice of words,but I am hopeful it implies the correct or approximate story, OK? perhaps it could be rewarding if you were to use your search engine by typing in (GAO>policy>old documents.) exclude the parentheses.

  133. Honor First…………………………
    After you read all of the hits on that query, remove the words old documents and substitute the word passports, but be sure to retain the first two parts of the query. You might find this more specific to your question.

  134. Honor First………………………..
    To do any of the search you will first need to go back to your IP screen whereupon there is usually search capabilities .

  135. oldsalt, my point being, as has already been discussed here….why would a young woman in those days need a passport? Aside from the obvious. So did they say they destroyed HER passport records specifically or did they say they destroyed everyone’s records. If they said they destroyed her passport records then its obvious she was at some point in time out of the country.

  136. jbjd: Sorry, but I didn’t ask what the Wong Kim Ark case was about. It did give a brief, one-line summation of the Minor case, which was inclusive of the citizenship status of the plaintiff, which would suggest that was the ‘holding’ in the case. The question in Minor involves her citizenship:

    “The question is presented in this case, whether, since the adoption of the fourteenth amendment, a woman, who is a citizen of the United States and of the State of Missouri, is a voter in that State, notwithstanding the provision of the constitution and laws of the State, which confine the right of suffrage to men alone.”

    Minor also said, “Certainly, if the courts can consider any question settled, this is one. For nearly ninety years the people have acted upon the idea that the Constitution, when it conferred citizenship, did not necessarily confer the right of suffrage.”

    Also, part of what they had to do was show there was no gender distinction in regard to citizenship; women, just like men could be natural born citizens, but it still didn’t give them the right to vote.

  137. ksdb | September 27, 2010 at 7:59 pm |

    jbjd: Sorry, but I didn’t ask what the Wong Kim Ark case was about.
    ***********************************************
    No, you just conflated the ruling in that case to support your claims about the definition presented in the second case.

    I answered your question. You’re welcome.

  138. Honor First…………………………………………
    I believe that what I read implied that her records “possibly” along with others were destroyed. But I keep having the nagging thought that somebody is doing a real lie job just like the Hawaii DOH has done relating to the existence of any birth records. Isn’t it really convenient that the records in question JUST HAPPENED TO FALL INTO THE WORTHLESS category? Maybe with a little assistance from a member of the Soetoro GOON squad.

  139. I am surprised that no one noticed that the dimWit sunstein didn’t even know when the Constitution of the United States was ratified.

    This IDIOT sunstein is a harvard “law” prof and he thinks the U.S. Constitution was ratified “a century… ago” (in 1910). I wonder if this BOZO sunstein like bo also thinks the U.S.A. has 57 States

    ====================================================“Some conservative legal thinkers like Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas think that the Constitution means what it originally meant. That means we should understand the document by going into a kind of ‘Time Machine’ and capturing the public understanding of the public that ratified the document a century… ago.”
    – Cass Sunstein

  140. I refuse to believe that anybody having his/her presence of mind would have left such an opportunity get away from them . Obots are primarily SNEAKS.,and in all probability there is a copy of EVERYTHING in somebody’s possession and when the OBOTS start to really feel the heat on their asses they will cough up anything that they think will save their OWN butt. Wait, watch,and listen. When you see somebody running toward you with some scraps of paper in HIS/HER hand BE THE FIRST to intercept that person. It could endow you with a lot of money, or put you in jail.

  141. I agree oldsalt…..Somewhere along the line O is going to really hack someone off or they will reach a point as in Christopher Coates and just start singing. I always hoped Rezko would give it up and start talking. I think things are starting to boil up and too many people are regretting their complicity in the obama fraud. Someone will crack eventually.

  142. Free Speech………………………………
    Just think………..if the US starts taking in all of the American territories American Samoa, Puerto Rico, and all the others we might ALL be wrong about how many states we have, including “BODY ODOR” Of course where we are concerned it won’t be because we are MUSLIMS and are totally STUPID about our American History,and Geography..

  143. Honor first……………………..
    I am praying that God will allow me enough tim to witness Soetoro’s political demise. But it will probably not happen until the heat in the kitchen reaches volcanic proportions. At which point they will have a choice, either ROAST alive, or do or say something that will get the fire off of the squealing little RAT.

  144. @HonorFirst,
    the reason for Prairie Fire making a comeback is that the U of Chicago voted against giving Emeritus Professor status to William Ayers the Weather Underground terrorist and bomber.
    Christopher Kennedy, the son of Robert Kennedy is Chairman of the Board at U of Chicago that has the responsibility of making the decision on granting Emeritus Professor status. Chris Kennedy gave a speech regarding the fact that Ayers had dedicated Prairie Fire to a bunch of Communists and “political prisoners” including Sirhan Sirhan. It was sweet revenge for Kennedy to make sure that someone who lauded the murderer of his father got his just desserts :)

  145. HonorFirst | September 27, 2010 at 4:57 pm |

    You’re right. This laugh is on me. LOL

  146. jbjd: The definition of natural born citizen from Minor is cited verbatim in Wong Kim Ark. Nothing needed to be ‘conflated.’ It’s there. Read it if you don’t believe it. That definition was also reinforced by the summation in WKA of what the Minor case was about,as I quoted earlier. I didn’t tell Justice Gray how to write his decision. Also, you seemed to ignore that Virgina Minor’s citizenship was one of the six bullet points in the syllabus of the Minor case which you linked.

    “2. In that sense, women, of born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, have always been considered citizens of the United States, as much so before the adoption of the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution as since.”

    In this instance, as well as within the opinion of the court, citizenship of the parents is a related component of the citizenship of the child. WKA affirmed this in citing Minor’s definition and choosing an alternate path in which to declare its own plaintiff to be a 14th amendment citizen, but not a natural born citizen.

  147. JJ | September 27, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Agreed. We needed to have started that right after the 2008 election hoax.

    The Tea Party better not take any false vote outcomes. We better stand up and fuss loud and long over false “wins.” We can’t let what happenend in the New York House and the Franken election happen again.

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