Supreme Court case Ruben Flores-Villar v US, US citizenship, Obama illegal alien?, Citizen Wells open thread, November 12, 2010

Supreme Court case Ruben Flores-Villar v US, US citizenship, Obama illegal alien?

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

From Kerchner v Obama, filed January 21, 2009.
“43. If Obama was not born in the United States, he cannot gain U.S. citizenship
from his mother because she was only 18 years old at the time of his birth.
Obama’s Father Not a U.S. Citizen

44. Presumably Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth.

45. Obama’s father, Barack Obama Sr., at the time of Obama’s birth was a British
subject/citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, and would have handed
down British citizenship to his son, Obama. Endnote 8.

46. Obama publicly admits his father was not a U.S. citizen and was a British
subject and then a Kenyan citizen when Kenya became an independent country.

47. Hence, at the time of his birth on August 4, 1961, Obama was born to a U.S.
citizen mother but not a U.S. citizen father.

48. Under the definition of an Article II “natural born Citizen,” Obama therefore
cannot be a “natural born Citizen.” Endnote 9.”

For more info on this case:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

My friend and patriot Zach Jones provided this US Supreme Court case yesterday for consideration.

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
RUBEN FLORES-VILLAR,
:
Petitioner
:
v.
:
No. 09-5801
UNITED STATES
:
Washington, D.C. Wednesday, November 10, 2010

“JUSTICE BREYER: I didn’t quite follow this. As I understand it, on what — say: On what remedy will there be if you’re right? This is what I don’t understand.

A child is born abroad. One parent is American; the other is foreign. If the two are married, that child is American only if the father or the mother — one or the other — has lived in the United States for now at least 2 years. It used to be more. Okay? Now it’s 5 years after the age of 16.”

“MR. KNEEDLER:”

“Where you have mixed parentage, the background of the enactment of this in 1940 and reenactment in 1952 and continued up to this present day is Congress was concerned that such a child may not have the requisite connection to the United States. They have a connection to the parent, but may not have a connection to the United States such that Congress wanted to grant citizenship to that person. So what Congress did in the mixed citizenship situation was to require prior residency of the parent as a talisman, as the Court said in Rogers v. Bellei, for a connection to the United States of ten years, five years after the age of 14. Congress has liberalized that, but that was the basic thought.”

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/09-5801.pdf

No wonder Obama has employed so many attorneys to avoid presenting his records. Obama should be immediately arrested and deported. And by the way, all of the attorneys who have assisted him in violating the law should be arrested and disbarred.

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98 responses to “Supreme Court case Ruben Flores-Villar v US, US citizenship, Obama illegal alien?, Citizen Wells open thread, November 12, 2010

  1. Good Morning CW. There are a couple of quote in the text that indicate how wide the discussion of the court could go.

    MR. HUBACHEK: Chadha Zadvydas says that even though Congress has plenary power over the immigration power. When it exercises that power, it has to apply with constitutional limitations. This is the first one of the Court’s cases where -JUSTICE
    KENNEDY: That was an alien admissions case. You are talking about nationality.
    ——-
    How about looking at the text in the Constitution and history of Natural Born Citizens vs. ordinary citizens. Can Congress effect the meaning of a natural born citizen, something specifically stated in the Constitution without going through the Amendment process clearly addressing the term?

    I would say they cannot.

  2. …And, again, there is also Chadha Zadvydas that made clear that the Constitution limits the Congress’s power even in the context of naturalization…..

  3. Obama should be immediately arrested and deported imprisoned. And by the way, all of the attorneys who have assisted him in violating the law should be arrested and, disbarred, and imprisoned.

    FIFY

  4. The Flores case appears to be directly on point if in fact bo was born outside the US.

  5. Thanks Zach.

  6. I just searched the case on google and found a comment from Mario Apuzzo that is relevent:

    Puzo1 said…
    Let Us Move Forward,

    Regarding Ruben Flores-Villar v. United States of America, the real issue is not whether we should have “gender neutralization” of our citizenship and naturalization laws or whether we should have equality of jus sanguinis natural allegiance inherited from the father with that inherited from the mother. Rather, given the biological differences between a man and a woman, the real issue is how best to prove that a child not born in the United States, claiming derivative citizenship from the father, is born and attached to a particular man versus to a particular woman, and what are the limits on Congress’ plenary power to determine how best to resolve such a citizenship and naturalization question. Another sub issue is what is the extent of judicial review of Congress’ plenary power to decide such an issue.

    The law of nations has taught us through the ages that a nation has every right to self-preservation and that a nation best preserves itself through the allegiance that its people give to it. The same law of nations which has its basis in natural law, as confirmed by the common law established by our own U.S. Supreme Court, has taught us that a person gains his or her strongest allegiance through nature, meaning from the parents from whom and from the territory in which one is born. Hence, the nation must have in place the means to protect itself which includes deciding who will and will not be a citizen of the nation. Of course, this concept extends to the need as recognized and constitutionally provided for by the Founders and Framers in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 to have a President and Commander in Chief be a “natural born Citizen.” Because of the critical nature and need for national self-preservation and the Framers’ inclusion of the “natural born Citizen” requirement for presidential eligibility in the Constitution, not even the equal protection clause of the Fifth or Fourteenth Amendment or even Congress’ plenary power over citizenship and naturalization trumps the doctrine of self-preservation of a nation and its people. For an interesting discussion on the concept of Congressional plenary power in the area of citizenship and naturalization, see the amicus curiae brief of the Immigration Law Institute filed in the Ruben Flores-Villar case which can be accessed at http://www.abanet.org/publiced/preview/briefs/pdfs/09-10/09-5801_RespondentAmCuIRLI.pdf

    Also, given that there is an equality of jus sanguinis natural allegiance inherited from the father with that inherited from the mother, a child must be born to both a citizen father and citizen mother in order to be an Article II “natural born Citizen.” The child inherits as much natural allegiance and loyalty from the father as he/she does from the mother. The natural allegiance inherited is as full from one as it is from the other and is as equal if not stronger to that inherited from being born in the territory of a nation.

    Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

    October 19, 2010 9:27 AM

  7. How about looking at the text in the Constitution and history of Natural >>>Zach; Born Citizens vs. ordinary citizens. Can Congress effect the meaning of a natural born citizen, something specifically stated in the Constitution without going through the Amendment process clearly addressing the term?
    I would say they cannot.<<<

    Zach,
    I emphatically agree with your opinion. Congress cannot legislate the Constitution requirements for POTUS away. They can be 'interpreted' by the SCOTUS and they can be changed via the Amendement process, but they cannot be changed by legislation.
    The meaning of NBC has never been described by the SCOTUS, except in Minor vs Happensett, were in the court said:
    "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first."

    The court has emphatically spoken that those citizens born on native soil, of native parents are NBC, without question. ALL OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE IN QUESTION. Thus, Obama status is, by the words of the SCOTUS in question. Beyond this, we have no direct mention on the meaning of NBC in SCOTUS. The Constitution does reference the Law of Nations written by Vattel, and many terms come directly from there: including the above SCOTUS comment of native born on native parents (note the pleural).

    What should have happened is the SCOTUS making a decision on what constitutes NBC by accepting an eligibility lawsuit early on. Now, it makes the SCOTUS appear inept and politically corrupt. The SCOTUS clearly had a legal, moral, and Constitutional obligation to define the term NBC as it applies to POTUS when the problem arose or was questioned.

    My impression has been that the fight has always been to prevent discovery for Obama, not to prove or disprove the liberal theory on NBC being changed by judicial rulings. The later could be debated in front of a court, and the SCOTUS judges could 'define' the term NBC as it pertains to POTUS for all time. No, this wasn't the point of the Obama team, it has been as CW says "blocked the release of records" which points to a much more sinister, but obvious conclusion. Obama isn't even a legal US Citizen and has committed fraud for years, including a fake SSN.

    Pete

  8. I wonder if what might happen would be for the Court to be clear enough as to the meaning of NBC to allow state legislatures cover to put in place guarantees that only natural born citizens are allowed to run.

    That would limit the damage of a second Obama term without actually nullifying his election. It might keep riots in the streets from occurring. It would preclude a run by Jindal and possibly Rubio but it is what it is.

    They have shown themselves to be cowards. However, if the Court does not take steps to limit the power of Congress the Supreme Court may wake up and find they have the same power as Chavez’s supreme court.

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  10. Congress violated their oaths of office by ignoring the eligibility issue. They knew about it and ignored it. Congress should not have to come up with new legislation every time the Constitution is violated. Barrack Obama is not and never was eligible to be the president of the United States. Obama should be arrested, not impeached. Legally, he is not a sitting president.

    We need to do what is right to save our constitutional republic. Worrying about people getting mad and rioting in the streets should not be an issue. Obviously it would be nice to not have rioting in the streets, but we can’t worry about offending people so much that it is more important that enforcing our laws. Being politically correct and worrying about hurting other people’s feelings is one of the reasons we are in so much trouble as a nation. Government officials are letting Muslims get away with breaking our laws all over the United States in the name of tolerance.

    Our country is under attack from within. We need to do what is necessary to defend it.

  11. http://www.wnd.com HOW CONGRESS WAS PREPPED TO DISMISS BIRTHERS

    Call Congress and tell them to copy this article and give it to the Congressmen and women Tell them they were duped BIG TIME!!!! Better start taking their JOB,AS, SERVENTS AND PROTECTORS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND AMERICAN PEOPLE MORE SERIOUSLY!!!! They look like fools!!
    We out here seem to know more than the elected leaders and that is scarey!!!

    You have Retired Generals that say we need a special election,Plenty of documents and Truth everywhere to have this admin dismissed ASAP
    Any one covering this up should get in trouble for Treason.
    Ask Congress since they are so about the Constitution,Let America see that the Constitution really works.Only a Natural Born citizen can be President of America > Period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So Let’s have the Constitution work NOW

  12. Story right now at WND, tried to post link and failed.

    How Congress was prepped to dismiss ‘birthers’
    Research office memo includes FactCheck.org attack

  13. BORN IN THE USA?
    How Congress was prepped to dismiss ‘birthers’
    Research office memo includes FactCheck.org attack
    Posted: November 11, 2010
    10:15 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    The Congressional Research Service issued a memo to prepare members of Congress to rebut and defuse questions constituents were asking regarding Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility under the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution.

    CRS staff member Jerry W. Mansfield, an information research specialist in the Knowledge Services Group, confirmed to WND that he authored the June 5, 2009, CRS memo entitled “Qualifications of Barack Obama to Be President of the United States.”

    WND has posted the CRS memo on Scribd.com for download.

    Attached to the memo was an attack piece published by FactCheck.org to dismiss claims that Obama’s short-form Certification of Live Birth, or COLB, originally published during the 2008 presidential campaign by DailyKos.com, was a forgery.

    The memo was addressed to Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif., and sent to Jeffrey Post, a staff member in the congressman’s office.

    Get the free, in-depth special report on eligibility that could bring an end to Obama’s presidency

    Attached to the memo were copies of four articles from the Internet aimed at debunking and dismissing arguments questioning Obama’s eligibility.

  14. We are missing the Bigger picture here. Obama was adopted by an Indonesian and became an Indonesian citizen,known as Barry Soretto.
    Then came back as a Foreign student.Went to school as a Foreign student.
    Applied for college,received student loans,as a foreign student.????
    College records SEALED.iS THIS THE true smoking gun??????
    Can this explain his multiple S.S. NOS ??? iS THIS WHY HIS PASSPORT HAS BEEN SEALED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ???THINK THE NATURAL BORN WAS TO KEEP THE Public from looking into the REAL CRIMES ????Defrauding the American Government ??? WHY HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEEN SEALED ?? NEED to call Congress and demand they be RELEASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASAP

  15. Truth Now | November 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    We are missing the Bigger picture here. Obama was adopted by an Indonesian and became an Indonesian citizen,known as Barry Soetoro.

    Truth Now, I think you are right. The Indonesian citizen angle has been downplayed, and according to a Berg lawsuit, would disqualify Barry, just to add to list of reasons.

  16. The Law of Nations is in fact mentioned in the Constitution. As well when reading the law of nations, citizenship is defined. Bring on the civil war if we must. We are a nation of Laws, Truth and Justice is the American way.

  17. Let this be a lesson to everyone. The democratic party is corrupt, and will strive for power, and control, over the people using unconstitutional and illegal means. Are these the people you want to lead the nation? The democratic party is corrupt and should go down, and be prosecuted under a RICO suit for using BS to install Obama as president.

  18. Truth Now | November 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    We are missing the Bigger picture here. Obama was adopted by an Indonesian and became an Indonesian citizen,known as Barry Soretto.
    Then came back as a Foreign student.Went to school as a Foreign student.
    Applied for college,received student loans,as a foreign student.????
    College records SEALED.iS THIS THE true smoking gun??????
    Can this explain his multiple S.S. NOS ??? iS THIS WHY HIS PASSPORT HAS BEEN SEALED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ???THINK THE NATURAL BORN WAS TO KEEP THE Public from looking into the REAL CRIMES ????Defrauding the American Government ??? WHY HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEEN SEALED ?? NEED to call Congress and demand they be RELEASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASAP
    ==========================================

    BINGO!!!

  19. Truth Now _ I agree with you and have been disturbed all along at the non focus on BO gaming our system to suit his pursuit of climbing over people / rules to gain prestige and power . Gaming the system / community organizing / non profits/ charitable org.s houses for deceptive agenda’s to change our way of life in the US – using taxpayer money to fund evil disguised as humanitarian – pretending to ( lying to be precise ) be a foreigner to gain access to student aid then claiming to be American citizen – there in lies the rub-
    How far does this trail lead – miles I’m certain ! The lady protestith too much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. “We Told You So! The Congressional Research Service CONFIRMS IT”

  21. Truth Now | November 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    We are missing the Bigger picture here. Obama was adopted by an Indonesian and became an Indonesian citizen,known as Barry Soretto.
    Then came back as a Foreign student.Went to school as a Foreign student.
    Applied for college,received student loans,as a foreign student.????
    College records SEALED.iS THIS THE true smoking gun??????
    Can this explain his multiple S.S. NOS ??? iS THIS WHY HIS PASSPORT HAS BEEN SEALED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ???THINK THE NATURAL BORN WAS TO KEEP THE Public from looking into the REAL CRIMES ????Defrauding the American Government ??? WHY HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEEN SEALED ?? NEED to call Congress and demand they be RELEASED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASAP
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Truth….I agree…..let’s get on it…..we should even call people not in our district like Rand Paul and Col. West…..I live in Nevada and they are all still playing the same game here and the majority of voters are still ignorant after having put “Dirty Harry” back in office……however….I will be hounding Joe Heck as I helped him to defeat Dina Titus!!

  22. Jonah………………………………………….
    Now all we have to do is find a sympathetic court,and Federal judge who is NOT on Soetoro’s payroll. We could have ABSOLUTE, AND CONCLUSIVE ,DOCUMENTED PROOF OF SOETORO’S CRIMES, BUT WITHOUT A FEDERAL COURT IN WHICH TO TRY HIM WE ARE HAMSTRUNG. ANY ATTEMPT TO TRY HIM IN A STATE COURT WILL ALSO FAIL,BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE PLACE. NOR WILL ANY INDICTMENTS BROUGHT BY CITIZEN GRAND JURIES BE SUCCESSFUL. THEY MUST BE TRIED IN A FEDERAL COURT. AT THIS JUNCTURE WE ARE LEFT WITH THE SCOTUS, NO ACTION,OR REVOLT. PICK YOUR POISON.

  23. http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/11/man-facing-federal-and-state-charges-in-monroe-county-tn-stemming-from-fitzpatrick-case/

    ——————————————————————————–

    As he stated in an radio interview on the site below, Darren Huff did not attempt to make a citizens arrest, nor did he attempt to “take over the town” on 4-20-10.

    http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2010/04/walter-fitzpatrick-leo-haffey-jailed-in.html

  24. Good Morning! Excellent posts today. You know the KISS rule? (“keep it simple, stupid”?)

    Here is one SMALL piece of the puzzle that I believe congressional committee chairmen, Rep. Darrell Issa (CA) and Rep. LaMar Smith TX) , who have said they are going to start investigations, investigations….., could tackle without being labeled “birthers” (a nasty word to describe us who believe the NBC constitutional requirement) – the multiple social security numbers used by Obama and especially the one presently used by him.

    Now, how hard is that? No fair and honest person would call that witch-hunting or unreasonable. After all, there is already plenty of evidence already obtained re. this “irregularity” and no one in their right mind could say that this doesn’t smack of possible criminality which needs to be investigated.
    The fraudulent use of social security numbers has already been established to be a crime, regardless of who the perpetrator is.

    Here is the simple part for us patriots: Start a letter-writing campaign to both Issa and Smith making a forceful and convincing plea as to why our President appears to have broken the law with respect to this “simple” matter, which anyone of us Americans would have to answer for if we had done the same thing.

    This matter could be investigated by them without any hoopla, and, besides, who knows where else it might lead?!?!

  25. http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM HAS ACTUAL DOCUMENTS OF NUMEROUS S.S. NOS hAVE CONGRESS CALL ORLY AND GET THE DOCS!!! Orly also has documents of over 60 properties bho had that spanned several states when in ILLINOIS Think it is actually 100 properties.
    Need to call her and request meetings and or docs on all she has.Tell them Dr. Keyes and over 150 military are her clients !!!! Also the world knows who he is and that is putting our America in a bad situation.America first!!

    http://www.americangrandjury.org great speech by Pence.Obama should read this.Show him his real position!! Set him straight!!!

  26. We didn’t lose the election because of me,” Ms. Pelosi told National Public Radio in an interview that aired Friday morning. “Our members do not accept that.”
    http://tinyurl.com/272vyu4

    Warning Labels for Voting Democrat
    http://tinyurl.com/27hjtdm

  27. Has anyone else read the Dinesh D’Souza article in Forbes magazine,? I have yet to read his book “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” which expands on it but he lays out an absolute textbook example of why the Framers insisted on the NBC clause. Zero is loyal to his father’s memory. Dedicated an entire book it, .i.e., “Dreams from My Father”. Who was his father? He was a Kenyan national with a Kenyan religious/poitical/cultural worldview. I have to see an article or debate on the issue but I still believe it worthy of one.

  28. …I have yet to see an article or debate…

  29. Pelosi Barricades Self in Office, Refuses to Hand Over the Gavel
    http://tinyurl.com/388nadc

  30. Philo-Publius | November 12, 2010 at 12:32 pm |

    Pelosi Barricades Self in Office, Refuses to Hand Over the Gavel
    http://tinyurl.com/388nadc
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Whether the above is true or not the woman is definitely a LUNATIC!!!!

  31. CW-a few things that has always bothered me re: Obama set-up as potus-all goes back to South Side, Cook County Chicago-corruption and follow the money.
    How far out in years does the Olympic Committee start picking cities for the Olympics-10-20 years-that Obama was community organizer/slum landlord. In other words he and Jarrett were picking up these properties on the cheap and running them further into the ground, to make them less valueless-most of the South Side looks like the top picture in warning labels for voting Democrat-a guy with a bulldozer could level the entire area in a week.
    Does/did the Olympic Committee take bribes or was Chicago under some illusion that they would definitely get the Olympics. Would be huge for that area of Chicago.
    Does this tie into O’Hare needing a new runway for expected traffic due to Olympic flights-also would be a huge project-therefore Bensenville, Illinois almost the entire town would be removed for this project.
    Rosemont, Illinois-a syndicate city always has been-Obama had something going on there too.
    In their wild and crazy imaginations could they have thought the Olympics/Chicago was in the bag? and if so why did they lose out.
    This would have meant several fortunes for the Obama group and unions-I doubt very much sealed bids. Something fishy with this entire deal.

  32. They admit it’s a parody at the end.

    I LOVE the “Vegan” comment at the end.

    Thanks, Philo!
    :)

  33. So losing the Olymipics may have been a bigger loss to Zero than we would think.

    I’d be sweating bullets my investors would have a score to settle.

  34. Jacqlyn Smith @ 12:40 pm |
    Jacqlyn-yes they did label this as satire, since with the way this group has been acting it is hard to tell the difference-therefore labels needed. Fine line between sanity/insanity-but not right/wrong.
    (Yes, this is a parody. Unfortunately, Pelosi’s four years as speaker actually occurred.)
    “Whether the above is true or not the woman is definitely a LUNATIC!!!!”

  35. >>>>Matt: We need to do what is right to save our constitutional republic. Worrying about people getting mad and rioting in the streets should not be an issue. Obviously it would be nice to not have rioting in the streets, but we can’t worry about offending people so much that it is more important that enforcing our laws.<<<

    Matt,
    This has been the biggest lie of all. The lie that people will riot when the learn that Obama isn't eligible. ROFLOL, it's not happening unless the democratic party and socialist party incite riot on purpose. Conservatives aren't prone to riot, and most already know. This "they will riot" is an attempt by liberals to scare people into not seeking out the truth. This is nothing more than 'dirty politics'. Supreme act of cowardice to say such things, nobody is going to riot when they find out Obama and the DNC lied.
    Pete

  36. Pete @ 1:03 pm |
    I agree-this rioting garbage is insane. Look at all the places where it occurred-South Side never rebuilt-businesses not only moved away they moved far, far away. No business can afford the risk, the insurance etc., this is why most of those cities look like the picture they show on the warning labels for voting Democrat. Cruel to the honest citizens that are trying to live there in peace, about all that really happened was the criminal element took over with all of their corruption.

  37. I believe it was Rove that had said about Barry that he acted like a Kenyan Anti-Colonialist….Yet he didn’t make the connection that he was born with dual citizenship with britain/and kenya….so it’s no wonder he acts like a Kenyan Anti-Colonialist! Hence the reason why a dual citizen should not and can not be president. Just using common sense if you are born with dual citizenship there is a 50/50 chance you’ll choose allegiance to the US vs the Kenyan. And the way barry was raised the US allegiance didn’t have much of a chance i’d say

  38. hockeyfan530 | November 12, 2010 at 2:17 pm |
    “I believe it was Rove that had said about Barry that he acted like a Kenyan Anti-Colonialist….”
    ——————————————————————————————–

    Newt Gingrich said this, not Karl Rove.

  39. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626246/posts

    “I finally got into the downtown Knoxville area…The next thing I knew, I passed another entrance ramp and a sheriff’s deputy got behind me and turned the lights on…there were between 15 and 20 law enforcement vehicles pulling me over. They were ready for anything. I had assault rifles, shotguns, everything pointed at me.”

  40. i stand corrected. Thanks

  41. Anyone thinking about traveling to Tennessee should read this article and the comments.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/11/man-facing-federal-and-state-charges-in-monroe-county-tn-stemming-from-fitzpatrick-case/

  42. bob strauss | November 12, 2010 at 9:39 am |

    They knew–they all knew—and in January, 2009, while we watched, waiting for Cheney- the criminal of 9/11- to call for objections, they knew.
    We were played…and it will continue until this nation takes to the streets like Germany.

    The TSA revolt against airport scanners is drawing fire–and tonight after 90 million see the FEMA camps, the stored and stacked coffins, the plan to steal water rights on Conspiracy Theories on station #246, even more will revolt.
    You think last weeks show about wall street theft was enlightening????
    This is about your children…

  43. Death for all Traitors can not happen soon enough. A Nation of Laws…Truth and Justice. No one is above the law!!!

  44. Truth Now | November 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    This selection as you call it is a very deep rabbit hole..of all the choices, a socialist, a communist wouldn’t have been hard to find…hell, Hillary would have been great!! She attended all the same classes and her political philosophy is the same.
    Why Soros dumped Hillary and picked up the fraud is one thing noone can answer—since Soros paid for Chelsea’s wedding, there are no hard feelings and from this we can assume Hillary was in on the treason.
    Just keeps getting deeper and darker, huh??

  45. A coup detat occurred in this nation—TPTB weren’t worried about a few sealed records…every justice– local, state, and federal, even the SC was bought or threatened.
    I’m going with threatened because if not, we are in a situation that can’t be reversed without a reverse coup.
    EVERY action in the last two years took preparation for years from those like Bush, Clinton, and CONgress to pass legislature benefitting TPTB, not the taxpayers.
    This coup didn’t take place overnight—and sadly, it wouldn’t have mattered who was in the big house–it hasn’t mattered for years.
    The birth is just a little distraction–they knew nothing, not any litigation would ever go anywhere–and I suspect that is why the idiot was chosen—for where has the focus been for two years??
    Petitions, letters, rallies, marches, demonstrations, phone calls, emails–nothing will change or undo what has already been accomplished.
    This is too big….revolts, refusals to accept their dictates will work only on a large scale–like Germany; they kept 1500 officers busy for 24 hours protesting nuclear waste coming through on a train. Hundreds of thousands revolted–that and only that will work…keep your ammo dry. ..AND STORE FOOD AND WATER and a gas mask!!

  46. Are we living a coup de tat?
    Did McCain and the Repubs agree with the Dems and Obie that the two (ineligible) candidates could run (damn the constitution)?
    If so, how can we confront these conspirators ?
    If so, as patriots, what is our responsibility to confront the coup?
    What rights do we have? How has the US recognized deposed governments?
    We need to get this resolved… forget the possibility of riots in the streets… France appeased the muzzies and they still have riots (same for England, Sweden…)
    So don’t think confrontation is the sole cause of rioting – appeasement might be worse! (In this case leading to tyranny, financial collapse, and then riots..)
    I think most of the US wants to know the truth and root out the DC corruption which has plagued us for decades.

  47. Jonah | November 12, 2010 at 10:28 am |
    Defrauding the govt?? I think the fraud and TPTB(his handlers) have taken that to an all new level with what has been passed in CONgress and the EOs passed in the last 2 years.
    I think the EOs and legislation is just part of the ‘coup’ which gives the appearance that it’s all done legally and within ‘righteous’ parameters.

  48. TJ | November 12, 2010 at 3:55 pm |

    TJ…think about that question—what rights do we have??
    A coup has occurred..your nation has been taken over by communist, socialists, Illuminati, the 300 Club, the Rothschilds, the Bilderberg Group…and ‘

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    V.K. Durham & Bruce Curtis on PROGRESSIVE RADIO @ 2:PM CST RE: INTERNATIONAL CABAL PULLING OUT LAST STOPS ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY THE U.S. OF A.

    http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/truth-and-freedom/

  50. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/11/bp-oil-slams-florida.html

    This page links to several articles about what’s really happening with the oil spill. Not good.

  51. JJ
    The only question remaining in my mind is ….”How long is the American people going to sit on their hands as they wait for somebody else to fire the first shot, or take the first angered step towards DC”.

  52. Currently a Foreign & Domestic Coup D’Etat War is attacking & waging War against We The American People, but We The American people recognize it for what it is and definitely We The American People can stop it!! Remember, We The People consent to be governed only by our consent & only by the Rule Of Law that in our Freedoms we give our consent to obey and to governed under by our Almighty God, and by our God-given inalienable Freedoms, Civil Rights, & Liberties.

    We The American People do not consent to be governed by evil criminal lawlessness, tyranny, any crimes or any criminal behavior of any kind,
    sins, evil, & or by a Foreign & Domestic lawless Coup D’Etat power-grab for the soul of America. America stands at the point where Truth, Morality, Ethics, Law, Godliness, Holiness will reign & rule America, or evil, lawlessness, corruption, sins, tryanny, and crimes of every kind in sins against GOD and humanity will overthrow and destroy ALL humanity in America and on the earth!

    ALL Treasonous Traitors who are committing high Crimes & High Treasons against 310 + Million American citizens MUST be removed before the USA is completely overthrown in the Coup D’Etat War that is currently attacking
    every USA American citizen and that is currently happening in the USA.

    It is either the Rule of Law that comes directly from Almighty God the Creator to humanity in Truth, Virtues, Wisdom, Ethics, Judgment, Righteousness, Love & Mercy & Goodness that will rule in America, and that will rule over humanity in America, OR evil of every kind, sins, lawlessness, corruption, and crimes being committed against GOD, humanity & animals that will destroy America in thie Foreign & Domestic Coup D’Etat & the souls of billions of people!

    Americans, choose who you consent to be governed under today: Almighty God & truth, wisdom, virtues, morality, ethics, righteousness, goodness, holiness, Godliness, judgment, & law, or evil, crimes, lawlessness, lies, sins, evil corruption, & Satan the devil!

    God Almighty gives this choice for ALL people to make.

  53. oldsalt79 | November 12, 2010 at 4:40 pm |

    Whoa! oldsalt, this is not a time for violence. If you are not content to wait for congress or SCOTUS to legally remove bo then form a Grand Jury and indict bo yourself.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

  54. From: http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/local-florida-news-report-could-all-be-risk-medical-doctor-patients-symptoms-toxic-exposure-oil-dispersant-videos

    “Could we all be at risk?” asks local Florida news station — Medical doctor has patients testing in 95th percentile for oil spill-associated chemicals (VIDEOS)
    November 9th, 2010 at 08:14 PM

    “What Are The Long Term Health Effects of the BP Oil Spill?”
    November 9, 2010:
    # # # #

  55. I would love to see all Treasonous Traitors who are subverted and overthrowing the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution Immediately Arrested by force if need be. No one is above the law. When law enforcement in the USA, FBI, Congress, USA judiciary, & the USA military refuse to obey the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution, they need to be removed. We The People will not consent to be ruled over & governed by evil, lying, corrupt lawless people.

    CHRIST THE LORD said in the Holy Bible that if the salt looses its savor it is good to throw it out. The salt that has lost its savor that CHRIST THE LORD is talking about is injustice, lawlessness, evil, sins, & unrighteousness.

  56. I would love to see all Treasonous Traitors who are subverting and overthrowing the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution Immediately Arrested by force if need be. No one is above the law. When law enforcement in the USA, FBI, Congress, USA judiciary, & the USA military refuse to obey the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution, they need to be removed. We The People will not consent to be ruled over & governed by evil, lying, & corrupt, & lawless people.

    CHRIST THE LORD said in the Holy Bible that if the salt looses its savor it is good to throw it out. The salt that has lost its savor that CHRIST THE LORD is talking about is injustice, lawlessness, evil, sins, & unrighteousness.

    I am saying this because I want to defend the children and all of the defenseless people and animals who are not being defended by many evil, lying, corrupt Treasonous Traitors who are inside the USA and who are acting outside of the law in many law enforcement dept’s in the USA, in the FBI, Congress, USA judiciary, & in the USA military who are unfortunately ignoring and refusing to obey many USA Rule’s Of Law & ignoring and refusing to obey, support, uphold, protect & preserve the USA Constitution.

    Yes, many people today in the USA are refusing to protect the 310 + Million USA American people’s lives, safeties, futures, and our inalienable God-given Freedoms, Civil Rights, and Liberties.

  57. Starla | November 12, 2010 at 5:17 pm |

    I would love to see all Treasonous Traitors who are subverting and overthrowing the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution Immediately Arrested by force if need be. No one is above the law. When law enforcement in the USA, FBI, Congress, USA judiciary, & the USA military refuse to obey the USA Rule Of Law in the USA Constitution, they need to be removed. We The People will not consent to be ruled over & governed by evil, lying, & corrupt, & lawless people.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hi Starla…..please study this it is important….

    There is some very powerful info here , being exposed…………….hrs of it…………..take a look and then go to the archives of the truth and freedom radio shows with VK Durham and Bruce Curtis the host….you will learn a lot and you will know we don’t have much time now…..

    [link to http://www.theantechamber.net

    V.K. Durham & Bruce Curtis on PROGRESSIVE RADIO @ 2:PM CST RE: INTERNATIONAL CABAL PULLING OUT LAST STOPS ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY THE U.S. OF A.

    http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/truth-and-freedom/

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=187306

  58. Alan Keyes : Will New GOP House Ignore Lt. Col. Terry Lakin And The Constitution

  59. BREAKING NEWS! We Told You So! Congressional Research Service CONFIRMS IT!

  60. Charles Goyette, an American talk show host is the AUTHOR of the book, “The Dollar Meltdown: Surviving the Impending Currency Crisis with Gold, Oil, and Other Unconventional Investments”

    This is an excellent book to read. You can find it here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Dollar-Meltdown-Surviving-Unconventional-Investments/dp/1591842840

    http://search.half.ebay.com/Charles-Goyette_W0QQmZbooksQQsbyZ2

    Here is a lot of excellent information to read here about the USA economy:

    http://www.charlesgoyette.com

    # # # #

  61. Re: Jacqlyn Smith | November 12, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Hi Jacqlyn!! I’ll read it & study it and get back to you about this, God willing.

  62. Starla | November 12, 2010 at 5:30 pm |

    Re: Jacqlyn Smith | November 12, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Hi Jacqlyn!! I’ll read it & study it and get back to you about this, God willing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Thank you so much Starla…..I certainly need your help and we need to make this go viral…..I have been studying it for a few months now but am no where an expert…..GBU girl!

  63. “NATIONAL OBAMA ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT”

    “This is a partial listing of lawsuits, complaints and FOIAs (by subject matter) filed against President Barack Obama and his administration by Judicial Watch on behalf of the American people in pursuit of the president’s repeated violations of the law and his contempt for the public’s right to know.”

    Obama Accountability Interim Report – October 2010

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/national-obama-accountability-project

    # # # #

  64. Obama is so full of it, he would have to climb very high to reach the bottom rung of Terrible potus-he is a real pos.
    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
    BREAKING: Sunday WaPo Editorial Calls for Obama to Step Aside in 2012
    November 12, 2010 by texasdarlin
    I don’t know how much credibility Schoen and Caddell have as Democratic advisers, but the very fact that the Washington Post is publishing this proposal is odd at minimum, if not stunning.
    One and done: To be a great president, Obama should not seek reelection in 2012
    By Douglas E. Schoen and Patrick H. Caddell
    Sunday, November 14, 2010
    If the president goes down the reelection road, we are guaranteed two years of political gridlock, at a time when we can ill afford it. But by explicitly saying he will be a one-term president, Obama can deliver on his central campaign promise of 2008, draining the poison from our culture of polarization and ending the resentment and division that have eroded our national identity and common purpose.
    Obama himself once said to Diane Sawyer: “I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.” He now has the chance to deliver on that idea.
    I can’t imagine the Post publishing such an “opinion” without cause. Ideas anyone? Do you think this is related to the WSJ’s bizarre suggestion a couple of weeks ago that Obama had not yet decided whether to run for re-election? Why Would Donors Be Wondering in Nov. 2010 Whether Obama will Run for Re-election

  65. How Congress was prepped to dismiss ‘birthers’
    Research office memo includes FactCheck.org attack
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=226697

  66. http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=13492955

    Nashville TV Station covered murder of TN Republican Elections Commissioner.

  67. Only in Tennessee would it take 4 months to investigate a murder when the primary suspect is in the Sheriff’s office. Meanwhile the Sheriff’s Deputies are too busy arresting innocent travelers between Chattanooga and Knoxville.

    http://www.wate.com/global/story.asp?s=12842099

    The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is now in charge of the investigation. So far, Sheriff Bill Bivens has been tight lipped about the county election commissioner’s death.

    Perhaps the reason for the sheriff’s silence is because the case is too close to home.

    During a phone interview with 6 News Monday night, one of Bivens’ deputies revealed he is a suspect.

    Kenny Hope said he was questioned by TBI agents over the weekend and says he was told he is a suspect in Miller’s death.

  68. Received from a friend…

    That madman, Obama, is selling the entire country off. TREASON, TREASON, TREASON! What part of TREASON do they not understand.

    http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/China-SAIC-Stake-GM/2010/11/11/id/376765?s=al&promo_code=B189-1

  69. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626366/posts?page=15

    Its not just in that part of Tennessee, this state is polluted with corrupt law enforcement and out of control local politicians…

    15 posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 5:14:06 PM by The Magical Mischief Tour

  70. Leave it to Nashville!Laughing my butt off!

  71. Public School Bans U.S. Flag To Avoid “Racial Tension”

    Who would have ever imagined that the Stars and Stripes would be considered offensive on its own soil and in a government-financed institution, no less?\

    “Since when is honoring Veterans Day with the display of the American flag disruptive?”
    http://tinyurl.com/24klq8s

  72. hockeyfan530 | November 12, 2010 at 2:32 pm |
    i stand corrected. Thanks
    ___________________________________________________

    No worries, hockeyfan530… I wasn’t nitpicking…I heard what you were saying..doesn’t matter who said it..

  73. Truth Now | November 12, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    We are missing the Bigger picture here.

    So, Occidental College must have known what was in their Obama records, when requested, and went instead to their lawyers who also just happened to be joined with Obama’s. They too then were complicit.

    Since Issa is in such a hurry to begin investigating things, tell him to first investigate congress’ involvement in putting an ineligible man up for the Presidency.

  74. If the federal gov’t were to allow it’s expenditures to grow by 2% per year from where they currently are, and to keep the bush tax cuts, we would be out of the deficit in ten years. That is per an article by a fellow at the Cato institute.

    Do you know what that means? It means the much talked about deficit commission is a big democratic scam! There are ten dems and eight repubs and the repubs are letting them get by with this scam.

    The scam is to project huge increases in gov’t spending , and then claim that they are making huge cuts to those programs. The truth is, the programs could Grow by two percent a year and we could get out of this. But, to call it huge spending cuts, bogus ones at that, it means that they will get even republicans to scream that we can’t make cuts that deap, and voila, we’re in for either more taxes or a continued big deficit.

    The size of gov’t is NOT going down, folks. When they inevitably tell you that their cuts are making it go down, just remember that it isn’t a real cut, it’s just a cut from the projected increases. They’ll still be spending more money.

  75. Who Are The Scarborough Seven?

    Democrats in Washington have been horrified by this president’s handling of things for a year and a half now. Top Democrats in the U S Senate have all told me individually “This guy has no idea what he’s doing”.
    See more…….

  76. Here’s another article you should read before you blindly travel to Tennessee.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/01/22/memphis/index.html

    The jail from hell

    Most inmates are housed two, sometimes three to a cell the size of a walk-in closet, despite a court order requiring that the jail place inmates in individual cells to keep predatory inmates away from weaker ones.

    And far from protecting inmates from jailhouse violence, the poorly trained, badly paid and demoralized guards — who are themselves at great risk of physical harm — practice it themselves, according to lawsuits. Last month, two inmates arrested for DUI filed separate suits. One alleges guards broke his jaw for not answering a question correctly. The other accuses the guards of providing poor medical care after other inmates, wanting his diamond ring, broke his ankle and his fingers. (After being caught stealing from inmates, guards are now no longer allowed to confiscate their charges’ valuables.)

  77. 68Truthseeker | November 12, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
    BREAKING NEWS! We Told You So! Congressional Research Service CONFIRMS IT!

    ==================================================
    We discussed here, months ago, about the fact that Obama was never vetted so it is good to hear someone of authority verify it. Since the Federal government failed to vet Obama, maybe the individual states should do their job for them. States must pass a law that would require that all candidates meet the eligibility requirements before being placed on the ballot. That means presidential candidates must present an official certified birth certificate to each political party in the state. My State Senator had to provide a birth certificate in order to run for the MO Senate so why shouldn’t presidential candidates do likewise? If just a few states pass laws that all candidates must show proof of eligibility and if the Democrat party is foolish enough to nominate Obama and he still refuses to show his BC, his name will never make the ballot and it would be impossible for him to receive their electoral votes.

    You may consider writing to your state legislators.

  78. I was a prison gaurd in smyrna del,when inmated come through reciveing,we inventory all belongings,the inmate sign’s off on it.We had 4 inmates in soom rooms. and we were always getting sued,for anything and everything.they always claimed we stole from them or didnt give them something,they had nothing better to do but try and get back to court so they could get a day away from prison.

  79. Another video:

    “Congress was PREPPED to Answer Birthers!”

  80. Free Speech | November 12, 2010 at 9:32 pm |

    Those fellas that raped that Lebarto need to be tracked down and have their cocks chopped off. But besides that, the fact the Salon (of all media outlets) is writing about the Tennessee penal system means that the word is getting out about the situation down there.

  81. Liberto, sorry. We are amongst animals in this world. Somebody needs to find those characters, cut their cocks off and jam them in their mouth while they are still alive. Sorry, sounds harsh. But it’s amazing.

  82. Nancy is certifiable but partially correct. Nancy is corrupt along with Obama/Reid and the DNC-that is why they lost the election, that and the American people along with the Tea Party and many others-Citizen Wells, Breitbart, and many citizen activists-lawyers, blogs kept their fellow citizens informed of the major corruption employed by DC-ACORN, SEIU, out of control LABOR UNIONS, an unending list of creeps working against WE THE PEOPLE.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-we-didnt-lose-the-election-because-of-me/
    “We didn’t lose the election because of me…
    The reason they had to try to take me down is because I’ve been effective in fighting the special interests in Washington, D.C. I’m also the most significant attractor of support for the Democrats. So I’m not looking back on this. They asked me to run. I’m running. And again, our members understand they made me target because I’m effective.”

  83. http://www.breitbart.tv/dnc-affiliated-students-accused-of-felony-voter-fraud-in-minnesota/
    Several University of Minnesota students associated with “Organizing for America” have been accused of vouching for individuals they did not know, a felony under Minnesota state law.

  84. Michele, people that commit voter fraud or are complicit in voter fraud should face extreme penalties (20 years to life) for their offenses. There is really no bigger offense against the greater society in a democracy than people like this.

  85. Paxson @ 11:57 pm | I agree and I always hope that the small fry will lead to bigger FISH. Did you notice at the end of the video a $500.00 reward-I would do it for free but if it helps catch these hoodlums so be it-and they stated they are still going through piles of e-mails, so this could prove to be interesting. The American voters/taxpayers are done with this voter fraud nonsense and we want to get it straightened out immediately. Can you imagine your average grocery store operating like this.

  86. Michele..the fact of the matter is that voter fraud is not merely “nonsense”. It should be prosecuted like murder, rape etc. Essentially these people are raping society. We need to lobby our representatives to create bigger penalties for voter fraud. I”m opposed to the death penalty, but that would be too good for these people.

  87. Here’s a little background to the above entitled case:
    Ruben Flores-Villar was born in Tijuana, Mexico, to a noncitizen mother and a U.S. citizen father who was 16 at the time. His father and grandmother, also a citizen, brought Flores-Villar to the United States for medical treatment when he was several months old. He grew up in California with his grandmother and father, who acknowledged paternity with the Civil Registry in Mexico.
    (* Sounds like bo only the citizen parent was the mother)
    On March 22, 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court accepted the case for review.

    Question presented: Whether the Court’s decision in Nguyen v. Immigration and Naturalization Service (2001) permits gender discrimination that has no biological basis?

    Background On Nguyen v. INS
    Nguyen v. INS (2001)

    Facts: 28 USC § 1409 governs US citizenship for a child born to a US citizen and a non-citizen when the parents are unmarried and the child is born outside of US and its territories. There are different requirements for the mother who is a citizen versus the father who is a citizen. If the father is the citizen he has three options: legitimation, declaration of paternity under oath by father, or a court order of paternity. Mother doesn’t have to do these things. The difference is the relationship b/w the parent-child at the time of birth.

    Holding:
    On June 11, 2001, a divided Court held 5-4 that the federal statute does not violate the constitution’s equal protection clause because the different requirements on unmarried fathers and unmarried mothers is justified by two important governmental interests:

    1) Because a mother’s relation is verifiable from the birth itself and is documented by the birth certificate or hospital records, and a father need not be present at the birth, the imposition of different rules to establish parenthood is neither surprising nor troublesome from a constitutional perspective.

    (2) Though the interest in ensuring that the child and citizen parent have some demonstrated opportunity to develop a relationship that consists of real, everyday ties inheres in the event of birth in the case of a citizen mother and her child, the same is not necessarily a biological inevitability in the case of an unwed father. He may not know that a child was conceived, and a mother may be unsure of the father’s identity.

    http://www.onthedocket.org/cases/2000/nguyen-tuan-et-al-v-immigration-naturalization-service-06112001
    http://www.onthedocket.org/cases/2009/flores-villar-v-us

  88. All need to watch Jesse Ventura Fridays,9 and 10 EST.mAKE SURE TO TELL
    ALL TO WATCH TRU T-V RECORD ALL SHOWS.

    ALEX JONES ON LAST NIGHT WITH JESSE,EXPOSING CAMPS!!
    This is not good!!! America better wake up fast. Amazing how all this is right under America’s noses,and many do not have any idea.A shock to think our wonderful country has been invaded by such evil people???

  89. Michelle | November 12, 2010 at 5:47 pm |

    ……..”I can’t imagine the Post publishing such an “opinion” without cause. Ideas anyone? Do you think this is related to the WSJ’s bizarre suggestion a couple of weeks ago that Obama had not yet decided whether to run for re-election? Why Would Donors Be Wondering” …….

    *******************************************************************

    Michelle,

    Great Questions.

    As I have stated many times in the past, Obama will not run for a second term as there are clear signs to this notion. Hillary Clinton has already met several times in the past 4 months with the key donors for the democrat party. I can assure you, this was not to show off her Betty Crocker skills with aspired anticipation of landing her photo in the monthly Better-Home & Garden Magazine. Instead, it relates to “Buyers Remorse” from those key donors that abandoned Hillary and chose Obama in 2008 and now backing Hillary. She is the Secretary of State and does not require Donors, so why meet with them? Unless……

    In addition to that fact Michelle, I am reminded that Kenya paved the way this year for Obama to be eligible for President of Kenya. In fact, Obama’s name was specifically used with praise and cheer when changing the status in the Kenya constitution for those that may hold the office.

    Having said that, it is my opinion, knowing Obama’s Narcissistic mental disturbance, viewing himself as King of the World, would dare not pass up this opportunity. To be the First Person, Ever, to be voted in as President for 2 different Countries on 2 different Continents, is something he will not pass up. Everything happens in planning for a reason, a known one at that.

    He will leave claiming success and victory, same as he did with his recent Asian tour, although he secured absolutely nothing and came back empty handed.

  90. Many people see MMMMSSWSS, Pelosi as the ULTIMATE “NARCISSIST”. I am one of them. She is so in love with herself she cannot think in rational terms. In short she is INSANE.

  91. oldsalt79.
    I agree. Pelosi is mentally ill.

  92. What I am about to say can be looked upon by everyone in any way they choose .It is immaterial to me. I have for over a period of several years been reading about and studying George Soros. Glen beck has recently tried to do the same,and is presently trying to tell us the truth about SOROS,who wasted no time in threatening Beck.. Unfortunately Beck will not speculate what he percieves as the true INTENT of Soros. Given his financial resources he is sort of like a monetary system in itself. He can literally BUY MOST ANYTHING he wants. He is now attempting to BUY absolute control of EARTH. He is well on his way to accomplishing his goal. He knows that if he can control the US he will be able to eventually OWN all of the remaining continents over a period of time. He is another NARCISSIST,who thinks that he is going to live FOREVER. The old saying”It takes one to recognise another”, is in all probability the reason why he chose to align himself with Soetoro. He saw a reflection of himself in Soetoro. I believe that in his obviously sick mind he thinks that if he can control the US, he can extort anything from any country on earth. He wants the world to be subservient to him. To acxcomplish this he must operate something like the old plantation owners of the old south.,who owned slaves whose efforts earned them little reward. So the world will ultimately become his plantation. The STARVING, and demoralised masses of the world will become his slaves. His beliefs also includes MASS GENOCIDE of AMERICANS. He would like to see the population of his US plantation staff not exceed more than 15 or twenty million slaves. What will he do with the remaining 285 million people. Here is a really diabolical plan. He creates such a diminished dollar that eventually nobody has any meaningful amount of money left. This includes ALL business in the US as well. When the businesses can no longer operate they will close up. This could be POWER COMPANIES, FOOD PRODUCERS, MANUFACTURERS, ENERGY ETC. When this is finally in place EVERYTHING, will stop operating, and/or producing. Can you imagine 300,000,000 people without FOOD, SHELTER, or means to earn a living? They will have no money unless they are willing to become a SLAVE, and literally owned by George Soros. Even then he will offer them very little,but because they are extremely hungry, they will become Soros’s slaves. When he creates his MANMADE FOOD FAMINE he will effectively murder millions of surplus people via STARVATION. It would seem that he would want the population of Americans to diminish steadily,because he will replace us with ILLEGALS who will work for pennies ,and/or food. At this point he will have established his NATIONAL PLANTATION throughout the US. He of course will be the OWNER of it all. The failing in all of this is that he better get it done quickly,because he himself is no spring chicken. If he passes away before he completes it ,you will then see the slime of humanity crawl out from under rocks and do battle with each other for a few crumbs of what Soros leaves behind. At this point what is left of the US will deteriorate into a complete cesspool of crime,rape ,robbery,and murder. The US will have been FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMED into even less than a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. Republicans,and Democrats will no longer exist, and there will be NO STATE,or FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS. There will only be PAID GOONS, who will daily murder people who dare to speak without permission. The slaves will not be permitted to own ANYTHING. They will be housed in huge dormitories, that lack any of the amenities of civilisation. In summary America will be taken backward several centuries in time. Of course this is ALL SPECULATION,but we are getting awfully close to such a life becoming a reality for all of us. As I stated in an earlier comment we don’t have many choices left. We can do nothing, and let it all happen; we can rely upon the SCOTUS to act positively, or we can revolt against it. You can sit on your hands and wait for somebody else to decide what course to take or you can DETERMINE YOUR OWN COURSE. Hopefully our society will survive until 2012, at which point those among us who thought that becoming a Socialist State is so good,and otherwise wonderful, will have changed their minds. If we are lucky we might even have a chance to BLOODY George Soros’s nose ,and effectively fracture the noses of all of his paid Congressional, and Judicial GOONS. I believe that if we don’t get the job done in 2012, America will no longer exist as we knew it. I personally see this or something similar as being just over the horizon. You can call me crazy,or anything else you choose,but it will not change my mind. This is simply WHAT I THINK. Hopefully I will be proven wrong when the truth finally emerges.

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