Speaker Boehner and congress, Legal experts speak out, Obama eligibility, Obama issues

Speaker Boehner and congress, Legal experts speak out, Obama eligibility, Obama issues

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

Quite a few attorneys have been involved in lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility. Some of them are Democrats. Other attorneys and legal experts have commented on Obama, eligibility issues and court proceedings. Some of those expert opinions are presented below.

John Boehner, members of Congress, judges and other officials holding offices designed to serve and protect the American public, pay attention.

Long time Democrat and civil rights attorney, Bartle Bull.

From Citizen Wells November 12, 2008.

Responses to Judge Surrick’s ruling in Berg v Obama.

“Judge Surrick ruling exerpts:

“If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time, voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring in the Amended Complaint.”

“…regardless of questions of causation, the grievance remains too generalized to establish the existence of an injury in fact. To reiterate: a candidate’s ineligibility under the Natural Born Citizen Clause does not result in an injury in fact to voters. By extension, the theoretical constitutional harm experienced by voters does not change as the candidacy of an allegedly ineligible candidate progresses from the primaries to the general election.””

Mark J. Fitzgibbons is President of Corporate and Legal Affairs at American Target Advertising:

“Chief Justice John Marshall, writing in Marbury v. Madison, said that judges have a duty to decide cases under our paramount law, the Constitution. I have lamented previously about how some judges tend to evade their duty to decide constitutional matters by resorting to court-made doctrines.  Judge Surrick’s reliance on case law to dismiss Berg’s suit for lack of standing is reasoned from a lawyer’s perspective, but not heroic and perhaps evasive of his larger duty. 
His decision to “punt” the matter to Congress creates, I suggest, a dangerous, longer and perhaps more painful constitutional quagmire than had he heard the evidence in the case.  Even had the case lacked merit, the Constitution would not have been harmed.”

“Ellis Washington, currently a professor of law and political science at Savannah State University, former editor at the Michigan Law Review and law clerk at The Rutherford Institute, is a graduate of John Marshall Law School and a lecturer and freelance writer on constitutional law, legal history, political philosophy and critical race theory. He has written over a dozen law review articles and several books, including “The Inseparability of Law and Morality: The Constitution, Natural Law and the Rule of Law” (2002). See his law review article “Reply to Judge Richard Posner.” Washington’s latest book is “The Nuremberg Trials: Last Tragedy of the Holocaust.”

Mr. Washington wrote the following response to the Philip J Berg lawsuit and Judge Surrick ruling in a World Net Daily article dated November 8, 2008 :”

“Constitutionally speaking, Judge Surrick’s reasoning is completely illogical and a total dereliction of his duty as a judge to substantively address this most vital constitutional controversy. Instead, in a gutless manner, Surrick dismissed Berg’s complaint 10 days before the elections on a technicality of standing, which to any rational person begs the question: If Philip J. Berg as an American citizen, a respected Democratic operative and former attorney general of Pennsylvania doesn’t have the “standing” to bring this type of lawsuit against Obama, then who in America does have standing? The good judge in all 34 pages of legal mumbo jumbo didn’t bother to answer this pivotal question.

That Berg’s complaint is not “concrete or particularized enough to constitute an injury” is an amazing admission by any person that went to law school and even more so given the fact that Surrick is a respected appellate judge!”

Read more:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/obama-not-eligible-us-constitution-tenth-amendment-bill-of-rights-us-supreme-court-federal-judges-state-judges-state-election-officials-electoral-college-electors-philip-j-berg-lawsuit-leo-c/

From the Michigan Law Review.

John McCain, with two US Citizen parents, has questionable status.

“A. Citizenship and Natural Born Citizenship by Statute

According to the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Constitution “contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization.” Unless born in the United States, a person “can only become a citizen by being naturalized . . . by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens . . . .” A person granted citizenship by birth outside the United States to citizen parents is naturalized at birth; he or she is both a citizen by birth and a naturalized citizen. This last point is discussed thoroughly in Jill A. Pryor’s 1988 note in the Yale Law Journal, The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility: An Approach for Resolving Two Hundred Years of Uncertainty.

The Supreme Court holds that the citizenship statutes are exclusive; there is no residual common-law or natural-law citizenship. Citizens have no constitutional right to transmit their citizenship to children. In Rogers, the Supreme Court upheld a statute requiring children born overseas to citizen parents to reside in the United States to retain their citizenship. Since “Congress may withhold citizenship from persons” born overseas to citizen parents or “deny [them] citizenship outright,” it could impose the lesser burden of requiring U.S. residence to retain citizenship.

Congressional power to withhold citizenship from children of U.S. citizens is not hypothetical; for decades, it was law, and to some extent still is. The Tribe-Olson Opinion proposes that “[i]t goes without saying that the Framers did not intend to exclude a person from the office of the President simply because he or she was born to U.S. citizens serving in the U.S. military outside of the continental United States . . . .” However, the Seventh Congress, which included Framers Gouverneur Morris and Abraham Baldwin among others, did precisely that. In 1961 in Montana v. Kennedy, the Supreme Court construed an 1802 statute to mean that “[f]oreign-born children of persons who became American citizens between April 14, 1802 and 1854, were aliens . . . .” Thus, children of members of the armed forces serving overseas, and diplomats and civil servants in foreign posts, were not only not natural born citizens eligible to be president, they were not citizens at all.

Denial of automatic citizenship had very different implications than it would now because until the late nineteenth century, there was little federal immigration law. There were no general federal restrictions on who could enter the country, no provisions for deportation of residents who became undesirable, and immigration officials to deport them. Of course, these children could become citizens by individual naturalization. But even if the child suffered based on lack of citizenship, according to the 1907 Supreme Court decision in Zartarian v. Billings, “[a]s this subject is entirely within congressional control, the matter must rest there; it is only for the courts to apply the law as they find it.””

Read more:

http://www.michiganlawreview.org/articles/why-senator-john-mccain-cannot-be-president-eleven-months-and-a-hundred-yards-short-of-citizenship

William A. Jacobson, Associate Clinical Professor at Cornell Law School, believes Obama was born in Hawaii but states the obvious.

“There is a bizarre intellectual dance taking place around the topic of Barack Obama’s birthplace. 

The world has been artificially divided into “Birthers” and “anti-Birthers” when in fact I suspect a large percentage or even majority of the population is neither and simply wants all the evidence released so that we can move beyond the issue.  For most people, who have had to show their own birth certificates at various points in their lives, the notion that a presidential candidate should release his or her birth certificate to prove qualification for office reflects neither pro- nor anti-Obama sentiment, but a “what’s the big deal?” attitude.”

“We can deal with accusations of John McCain’s alleged misconduct during imprisonment even though such suggestions were beyond the pale, and also questions as to whether McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone disqualified him from the highest office in the land:”

“We have reached the point that merely expressing normal political and legal inquisitiveness will result in a charge of Birtherism or racism because it now involves Barack Obama, even though similar questions as to John McCain’s eligibility for office were raised in the 2008 election cycle.

I repeat, whiter-than-white John McCain had his eligibility questioned because of his birthplace, so how is it necessarily racist that the same thing takes place as to Barack Obama?  The racist charge is just a way of shutting down the conversation, a convenient excuse for epistemic closure.

As I’ve posted before, I think the circumstantial evidence supports the view that Obama was born in Hawaii, and there is no credible evidence otherwise.  But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.”

Read more:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/12/bizarre-birther-intellectual-dance.html#comment-form

“But to reach this conclusion, the one thing neither I nor anyone else can honestly say is that all the evidence has been reviewed.”

Did you get that Speaker Boehner?

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97 responses to “Speaker Boehner and congress, Legal experts speak out, Obama eligibility, Obama issues

  1. NEW EXCUSE FOR THE DAY – “OK – SO HE IS A USURPER, BUT HE IS A GOOD USURPER!!!”

  2. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/01/definition-of-birther-and-definition-of.html

    If we take BHO Jr. at his word then there is no doubt that he is not a Natural Born Citizen of the United States as required by the Presidential Qualifications Clause of Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 of the United States Constitution. The Constitution requires that to be the President of the United States, a person must be born in the United States of two parents who are citizens of the United States. By BHO Junior’s own admission his father was a British/Kenyan subject (citizen) at the time of his birth. Thus BHO Jr. is disqualified for the Presidency.

    There is a clear, concise definition of the term “Natural Born Citizen” in Vattel’s Law of Nations which was the principal legal reference book used by the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution.

    “The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    There have been innumerable United States Supreme Court Decisions that have referenced Vattel’s Law of Nations as a resource in interpreting the original intent of the Founding Fathers when writing the Constitution.

  3. Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  4. CW – This quote from your current posting.

    “His decision to “punt” the matter to Congress creates, I suggest, a dangerous, longer and perhaps more painful constitutional QUAGMIRE than had he heard the evidence in the case.”

    The names of my two favorite law firms :

    1 -DEWEY, CHEATHEM & HOWE

    2 – FLOTSAM, JETSAM & QUAGMIRE

  5. BO is trying to undercut the Federal Charge to cover–up the BO regime’s in Judge Roll’s murder. Dupnik should be charged with Criminal Negligent Homicide for allowing the BO Supporter Arizona Killer Loughner to go armed and failing to provide protection for the attendees at Congresswoman Giffords event. The BO Cohort who removed Judge Roll’s US Marshall Protection should also be charged with Criminal Negligent Homicide.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Obama_speech_undercuts_federal_charge_for_judges_murder.html

    Obama speech undercuts federal charge for judge’s murder

    “… Obama told the crowd at the University of Arizona… He (Roll) was on his way back from attending mass, as he did every day, when he decided to stop by and say, ‘Hi,’ to his representative.”

    In the complaint supporting Loughner’s arrest, federal prosecutors argue that Roll wasn’t simply seeking to pay a social call on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) when he showed up at the community outreach event where the shooting spree took place Saturday. Prosecutors and the FBI insist that Roll “was engaged in official duties” because he wanted to talk to Giffords and her staffers about problems with a surging caseload in federal courts in Arizona, particularly along the Mexican border.

    Loughner’s alleged killing of Roll may only be a crime under federal law if Roll was on business and not merely stopping by to say hi to a friend. The death penalty is likely available to the feds anyway, because of the death of Giffords’s aide Gabriel Zimmerman. However, multiple murders are an additional aggravating factor that could lead to the death penalty under federal law, as is the killing of a federal judge when carrying out his official duties.

    As a legal matter, Obama’s view (which tracks with the public narrative offered by Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik) may be irrelevant, but it probably doesn’t help to have the President of the United States emphasizing the social aspect of Roll’s stop to see Giffords on Saturday, rather than the reason prosecutors claim drew him there.

    It should be noted that Roll’s killing is clearly prosecutable under Arizona law. The issue of the strength of the federal charge for his murder mainly affects the dynamic between the state and federal governments over which should go first in prosecuting Loughner. For now, the feds are asserting their right to press forward before the state does.

  6. It was speeches like this that got Congresswoman Giffords and Judge Roll on BO’s Enemies List.

  7. Sheriff’s Department and community-college officials in Pima County are refusing to release a wide range of public documents about the man charged in Saturday’s shooting rampage that left six dead and more than a dozen wounded.

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-pima-county-wont-release-jared-loughner-records.html#ixzz1AvUjSuvS

  8. Obama’s disgusting politicization of the AZ massacre.

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    Last night Michelle Malkin livebloged the “bizarre” pep rally at the memorial for the Tucson massacre victims at the University of Arizona. The university branded the event with a “Together we Thrive” logo and slogan, which was plastered on city buses, signs, and handed out on t-shirts at the event.

    Rather than a solemn memorial service for the wounded and slain, or a call to re-examine the country’s policy towards mental illness, or the failure of the Pima County Sheriff to act on the numerous complaints of threats by the shooter, or address the false accusations by Dem leaders and the media immediately after the shooting, the huge crowd whooped and cheered as Obama took the opportunity to carry on the Democrat meme to address civil discourse and “not be passive in the face of such violence”.

    Malkin liked Obama’s speech but says, “Too late. Awful, awful venue.”

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/12…hite-and-blue/

  9. http://usalyright.blogspot.com/2011/01/disgusting-display.html

    A Disgusting Display

    My God…

    As I write this I’m watching the so-called “Memorial Service” in Arizona.

    Prior to President Obama walking out on stage, while the talking heads were talking a separate video feed was running on my screen showing the “mourners” – many of whom were laughing and joking… many of whom were dressed inappropriately… and what I especially can’t get out of my head is watching that piece of garbage Sheriff Dupnik actually posing with people who wanted photos with him… glad-handing as if he were at a political function.

    Disgusting…

  10. http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2011/01/obama_campaigns_at_memorial_se.html

    Just when you think they can’t be any more crass and disgusting….they go and outdo themselves again.

    This “memorial” has been the most appalling spectacle I have ever witnessed. Screaming, whistling going on. Some overt political messages. Good grief.

  11. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655948/posts

    How awful

    theres whistling and shouting and cheering

    and “lounge” piano music…

    This is a memorial for the victims of a horrible crime ???

  12. “Globe Magazine on ‘stressed-out’ Obama: Obama’s birthplace cover-up takes terrible toll on Prez; the phony birth certificate that haunts him…”

    “Via Globe Magazine; Stressed-out Barack Obama has lost a whopping 30 pounds amid fears that shocking new investigations into his REAL birthplace will bring down his presidency, say sources. Plus, the phony birth certificate that haunts him. Find out who is turning up the heat in a bombshell world exclusive.”

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/608

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/globe-magazine-on-stressed-out-obama.html

  13. http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/they-couldnt-help-it-team-obama-hands-out-t-shirts-at-memorial/

    Rachelle commented:
    Absolutely disgusting. T-shirts? Every day he sinks to new lows.

  14. http://wireupdate.com/wires/14113/politicizing-a-memorial-president-obamas-together-we-thrive-speech-with-t-shirts/

    (WIREUPDATE) — During Wednesday night’s memorial service of the fallen and wounded in the Arizona shooting tragedy attendees received a free t-shirt with a “Together We Thrive” logo emblazon on the front. Many conservatives were outraged that the President and university organizers politicized the event.

  15. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011211/content/01125106.guest.html

    Rush: Good Morning America in New York City was truncated today because of coverage of the snow bomb that went through there. I got a tip earlier today that one of the shooter’s friends appeared on Good Morning America and said the kid, the shooter, never listened to talk radio. Well, now, I, Mr. Talk Radio, found that pretty interesting. So we tried to find it on the New York feed of Good Morning America, it wasn’t there. So we got a transcript of the program, we found out that the kid did say it, the friend of the shooter did say it. We had to get it from the Cleveland feed, and if we weren’t able to do that we were gonna get it on the West Coast feed. Here it is. This morning on Good Morning America a portion of an interview Ashleigh Banfield did with Zach Osler, who is a high school friend of the shooter Jared Loughner. Ashleigh Banfield: “What was his motive in Saturday’s attack and what about the speculation that he may have been fueled by partisan politics and rhetoric in the media?”

    OSLER: He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left; he wasn’t on the right.

    Rush: What Mr. Loughner knows is that he has the full support of a major political party in this country. He’s sitting there in jail. He knows what’s going on, he knows that… the Democrat party is attempting to find anybody but him to blame. He knows if he plays his cards right, he’s just a victim.

  16. Observation…….

    Today, so far, Free Speech posts 15 out of 18 comments. WOW!!

    Talk about Speeking Out…..

  17. Mia | January 12, 2011 at 8:40 pm | CW — Hope you see this.

    I’m so sorry you had to take so much grief for just posting this. I’m not a Sorcha Faal fan, but I found this case he refers to was in fact docketed 11/30/10 and Judge Roll was indeed the judge assigned:

    United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al

    Plaintiff: United States of America
    Defendants: $333,520.00 in US Currency and Saturn Aura XE 2007, VIN 1G8ZS57N97F136757

    Case Number: 4:2010cv00703
    Filed: November 30, 2010

    Court: Arizona District Court
    Office: Tucson Division Office
    County: Santa Cruz
    Presiding Judge: John M Roll

    Nature of Suit: Forfeiture / Penalty – Other
    Cause: Bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States
    Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Plaintiff
    Jury Demanded By: None

    Source: Justia.com Dockets and Filings

    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/arizona/azdce/4:2010cv00703/568697/

    I also found the plaintiff’s motion posted at GodlikeProductions.com: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1317247/pg3

    Thanks, as always, for all you do and keep giving ‘em — well, you know

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    Thanks Mia!

  18. Good morning America…..

    Today I am mad and confused. I am mad because I watched a MEMORIAL for the dead in Arizona turn into a “pep rally” for a reelection presidential bid.

    I am confused and can’t understand for the life of me why thousands of citizens of that great state willingly became a part of that deception.

    Let me explain what I saw and what I didn’t see last night as obama addressed the nation on the senseless killing of six people and wounding of 13 others by a madman with NO POLITICAL AGENDA.

    First what I saw:
    I saw an Indian chief with a feather in his hand blessing the east,west,north and south doors of the gym in which the MEMORIAL service was conducted. He also blessed the spirits that were moving through the area.

    Next I saw the president and his wife “mouthing” the words to our National Anthem with their hands placed over their hearts. This was a FIRST. He normally shows he respect standing with his hands covering his crouch. Michelle even “mouthed the words too! Miracles do happen. Sister Janet was also trying to “mouth” the words, but somehow I don’t think she was doing so well.

    Next I saw a university president who was acting as the cheerleader for the program to come. He applauded from the stage, each speaker as if they were running for reelection to a public office. His actions spurn the crowd to act in a similar manner.

    I saw two students of the university, one introducing the other as a “hero” and of course the audience responded with loud cheers and applause. I saw a reluctant overweight Hispanic young man describe how he went to and comforted Congresswoman Gillfords prior to the EMT personnel arriving . Trying as hard as I could, I could not equate that to an act of heroism, but I could call it compassion.

    After loud applause for these students…the stage was set for the heavy hitters from Washington. The master of ceremonies ( president of university) then introduced Eric Holder who read a scripture from the Holy Bible of which I’m not sure even he understood. Again the audience had been conditioned to applaud, and they did.

    Brother Holder was followed by Sister Janet who also read a scripture for the Holy Book, which I’m sure she didn’t understand either. As expected and on cue, the Sheeples in attendance gave a loud applause for sister Janet.
    Such piety must have been a first for either of these two.

    Both Brother Eric and Sister Janet’s function was to lay the groundwork for the coming of the messiah…they were to bring the crowd to a point of adoration and expectation…which they did.

    Then the master of ceremonies gave an introduction of “the one” which almost made obama blush…but not quite. The applause and cheers were so loud at this time that I had to turn my television down. Can you imagine this at a MEMORIAL to honor the dead!

    Then “the one” took the stage and began to speak. Almost every sentence brought loud applause, sometime even standing ovations! The crowd was worked up and obama was eating it up.
    During the 34 minutes he spoke, he received more applause than he did at his 2 previous state of the unions addresses.

    At one point in “the one’s” address, chills went up my back….
    When he raise two fingers and slowly said……”and she opened her eyes”. The crowd applauded loudly and he said again…”and she opened her eyes”..again the crowd applauded even louder. I immediately thought, my god, is he equating his powers as if he has just risen Lazarus !!!

    In closing, obama said he hoped the little girl that was slain was in heaven jumping in rain puddles…I DON’T. I hope the little girl is sitting on the lap of our Lord Jesus Christ and he is telling her stories of goodness and how she will be happy in heaven.

    Now what I DIDN’T SEE:

    First I didn’t see any signs of a “man of the cloth” give a prayer for the souls of the dead. I saw no flowers or a cross on the stage.
    I saw an Indian medicine man waving a feather speaking of doors. That may have been correct if the massacre had been on an Indian reservation and the dead had been Indians, but they weren’t.
    Those slain were white, Anglo-Saxons and the killings were in a mall…so I think a religous leader should have given a sober prayer at least to start the ceremony…but that didn’t happen.

    Next, I noticed that the families of the slain and wounded were “corralled like cattle” off to the side. Prime seating in the middle was given to the politicians.

    Next I noticed that the true hero’s of this sorry affair were hidden almost out of sight of the cameras…The man who wrestled the killer to the ground and the 63 year old woman who took the ammo clip from the hands of the killer. These were the people who prevented the shooter from contiuning his killing spree.

    CONCLUSION: Somehow, I felt I was attending a werid church service.

    The Indian Chief gave the opening prayer…
    Brother Eric gave the first reading of Scriptures from the Holy Bible…..
    Sister Janet provided the second reading of the Holy Word…..
    Then “the one” gave the main sermon.

    All of this was done at this MEMORIAL to applause and cheers…
    What was wrong with the picture I received on my television last night?

  19. Rosemary Woodhouse

    That is a great synopsis, RNC- especially since I cannot bear to listen to him speak. Reading “reviews” last night, I also made the Lazarus corollary to Jesus’ raising Lzarus from the dead, as I am sure many did.

    Now that he’s gotten his dose of adulation, something I am sure he sorely misses between vacations- especially mass adulation- as others have noted, the campaign fr 2012 has begun.

  20. RMinNC,

    What was missing was the memorial service in its entirety! Why do we have politicians handling this event? I would prefer that they stay off to the side and participate as attendees, not the main players.

    The bigger question is why do the families of the victims allow this to go on? This stage appearance by the DC politicians served no purpose other than to elevate their position and visibility. A political rally complete with the adoring cheering crowd.

    I agree with you: What about a memorial service honoring the lives of those who were slain? What about a true memorial message from a pastor or minister? What about the feel and rememberance of what a memorial service is? What about PRAYING TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST that He would received and redeem the souls of those who have passed on??

  21. It has been asked, “If there is evidence that a crime might have been committed, why not present it to a sitting federal grand jury?”

    Why not, because that would be playing right into BHO’s hand. It has always been BHO’s endgame to steer any criminal cases against him into his Federal Court in DC where Holder can get him acquitted of any crime, including murder, as Holder did for BHO’s Terrorist Pal, the Embassy Bomber.

    Remember the case of DC Mayor Marion Barry who was acquitted in DC Federal Court even after the jury saw videos of him buying and smoking crack cocaine?

    What do you think would happen if cases against BHO were brought in any Federal Court anywhere in the US? Of course, Holder would simply have all the cases removed to his DC Federal Court and get BHO acquitted on all charges.

    Then Double Jeopardy would be applied by Holder to make sure that BHO can never be prosecuted again for any crimes.

    State Courts are where charges must be brought against BHO and his co-conspirators if you ever want to have BHO brought to Justice.

    Of course, you would not want to bring a case in Monroe County, Tennessee, but imagine if criminal cases were brought against BHO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts like that of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. It is a good bet that BHO and his local co-conspirators would be convicted there.

  22. RMinNC…bravo…..great insight. I too felt like the entire thing was bizarre. The cheering in the building was disgusting. The indian that spoke was absolutely unlike anything I have ever heard. Blessing doors????? Were any of the victims American Indians? Was that speaker an American Indian? It sounded as if he ad libbed his entire speil. I think O’s speech was uplifting, however…..we can thank the speech writer for that. I don’t for a minute believe he meant a word he said. This was political posturing through and through. He does the only thing he knows best. Give a prewritten speech. Other than that, I found the entire event unsanctimonius and staged.

    Watch the other hand!

  23. Alas, Free Speech (and others) again, living in their own little world. I agree with how stunningly awful and crass was the PERFORMANCE. But I, and we all, apparently fall in the “less than 10% who hate Obama no matter what he does”.

    I took a large sampling of major news and polls this AM. The general and UNIVERSAL consensus is that this was a Home Run and possible a Grand Slam. That in one quick thrust, Obama rehabilitated himself from all and sundry negatives – and shone forth as the “Obamessiah we all knew and loved”. One senior newsman even said, “Now we all have tingles up our legs like Chris Matthews had before”.

    I write you to simply caution you that the PROBLEM is very large – and it is NOT TRUE as some would suggest that the BO Regime is about to crumble. We have a massive MASSIVE problem that just got a lot LOT worse.

    I also remind you that Free Speech’s opinion, or mine, or even all 10 or 100 of us together ain’t worth crap. The ONLY thing that matters is what the PTBs think. THEY were rejuvenated and lifted up by yesterday’s events. It further reinforces that fears that touching Hisself in any way would be politically disastrous and potentially incendiary (literally).

    I cannot emphasize enough – and will try to reemphasize – what we have been doing and suggested avenues of attack have failed miserably. Obama is stronger right now than in any time since late 2008 and early 2009.

    Our ONLY viable path of action is make them fear us more then they fear our opponents. The only nonviolent way I can think of to do that is a MAJOR sitin at Wash DC.

    I want to hear other VIABLE suggestions. And I want to hear a lot less BS. The BS around here is sounding an awful lot like Alinsky disinformation, and confuse and compound the truth with the error, techniques.

    Please – people – RIDICULE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HELPING – and FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS.

    Regardless of perversions, criminality, ineligibility, etc. etc. – THE ENEMY IS FORMIDABLE. Let’s act like it.

    This is NOT A GAME with gentlemen’s rules. This is REAL LIFE with gloves off and no holds barred.

    And, PLEASE, no more “princess fits” – it is not becoming to serious discussion.

  24. CA Patriot | January 13, 2011 at 11:29 am |

    RMinNC,

    =========================

    Brilliant observations. This commenter could not agree more. But none of that matters. What matters is that the PTBs and the country-at-large ate it up – and wept and cheered.

    In case you did not notice – all of us “right thinkers” were summarily dismissed this morning – with a wave of the hand – as the “10% who hate Obama no matter what he does”.

    Our republic cannot survive as long as the MSM own us – and the stage we play on – and the script. A constitutional democracy can ONLY survive if the public (who vote, and who are supposedly the sovereigns) are fully and adequately informed. We are not. In fact, just the opposite.

    You all lose sight – at least from time to time – of the one absolutely killer argument they have against us: “If things were like that, or if things were that bad, somebody would be warning us.” The “somebody” of course being “mainstream”.

    If we don’t figure out how to crack that nut, we will not win.

    WE MUST QUIT WASTING TIME WITH DEADENDS AND SIDESHOWS – AND CONCENTRATE, CONCENTRATE, CONCENTRATE!!!

  25. Does the name Paul Wellstone ring a bell?

    “No Contest
    Paul Wellstone’s memorial service turns into a pep rally.”

    http://www.slate.com/id/2073324/

  26. “Birth-certificate billboards inch closer to D.C.”

    “It’s been on the Gulf Coast, in the Southwestern deserts, the heart of the Midwest, along California’s boulevards and in Texas, and now the “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” campaign is reaching into Maryland, in the shadow of Washington, D.C., where a billboard has been erected on Route 40 near Elkton.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=250269

  27. Carlyle….

    You replied that “our observations don’t matter”……..and “the PTB and country-at-large ate it up”…..

    I must disagree with you…OUR OBSERVATIONS DO MATTER….they may not matter to you, but they damn sure matter to me…I’m sure they matter to about 70% of all other Americans too!
    Remember we just had a mid-term election which proved OBSERVATIONS matter! Just ask the democrats who lost their seats if OBSERVATIONS matter. I’m sure their response would be a resounding Y E S !

    and as far as “the country eating it up”… if you had said the main stream media (MSM) ate it up, I would wholeheartly agree with you…
    but, I’m not so sure “the country-at-large” fell for and “ate up” the BS flowing like a river at Tucson last night!

    At least…this American didn’t!

  28. Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    It has been asked, “If there is evidence that a crime might have been committed, why not present it to a sitting federal grand jury?”

    Why not, because that would be playing right into BHO’s hand. It has always been BHO’s endgame to steer any criminal cases against him into his Federal Court in DC where Holder can get him acquitted of any crime, including murder, as Holder did for BHO’s Terrorist Pal, the Embassy Bomber.

    Remember the case of DC Mayor Marion Barry who was acquitted in DC Federal Court even after the jury saw videos of him buying and smoking crack cocaine?

    What do you think would happen if cases against BHO were brought in any Federal Court anywhere in the US? Of course, Holder would simply have all the cases removed to his DC Federal Court and get BHO acquitted on all charges.

    Then Double Jeopardy would be applied by Holder to make sure that BHO can never be prosecuted again for any crimes.

    State Courts are where charges must be brought against BHO and his co-conspirators if you ever want to have BHO brought to Justice.

    Of course, you would not want to bring a case in Monroe County, Tennessee, but imagine if criminal cases were brought against BHO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts like that of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. It is a good bet that BHO and his local co-conspirators would be convicted there.

  29. It’s very telling that Barack Obama has the capacity to tell a lie, a lie that is so easily disproved, in front of the entire country at a memorial service.

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/did-obama-lie-about-giffords-opening-her-eyes-for-the-first-time-video/

  30. Justice William O. Douglas: “The Constitution is not neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of the people.”

    Abraham Lincoln: “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

    You see our Founding Fathers never intended for us to be lorded over by corrupt criminals in the White House and Congress. To the contrary, our Founding Fathers intended for We the People to have control over our Government and our politicians.

    That is one of the primary reasons that they bestowed upon us that extraordinary Bill of Rights which provided for the Grand Jury System controlled by the people not the politicians.

    In our Founding Fathers’ prescient wisdom, they designed a Grand Jury System in which no man, not even the President of the United States, is above the Law.

  31. RMinNC | January 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    Carlyle….

    You replied that “our observations don’t matter”……..and “the PTB and country-at-large ate it up”…..

    I must disagree with you…OUR OBSERVATIONS DO MATTER….they may not matter to you, but they damn sure matter to me…I’m sure they matter to about 70% of all other Americans too!

    ——————————————————————
    It is best simply to IGNORE THE IDIOT OBOT carlyle. Obot carlyle is only here to disrupt from intelligent discussion.

  32. BO is incapable of telling the Truth.

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/did-obama-lie-about-giffords-opening-her-eyes-for-the-first-time-video/

    In one of the most memorable moments of the memorial last night in Tucson, Barack Obama told the pep rally audience that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords had opened her eyes for the first time on Wednesday night.
    It was very emotional moment:

    But, unfortunately it was not true.
    The Sonoran Chronicle reported that Rep. Giffords could open her eyes on Sunday.
    (The Sonoron has since pulled the article.)

    Giffords can open her eyes, but because she is on a ventilator she can’t speak, said Rhee.

  33. ‘It is best simply to IGNORE THE IDIOT OBOT carlyle. Obot carlyle is only here to disrupt from intelligent discussion.’
    Carlyle’s 11:45 post confirms this observation and reveals them as someone who does not desire the American liberty we are fighting to recover.

  34. It is fast becoming a waste of time to even think that we will ever be successful in any sort of legal or court action to bring down Soetoro. However this is not to say that we should give up in this aspect of it. We simply come together first and foremost, into a continually growing force. Then when we CONCENTRATE our efforts upon a mission it is MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. Of course there IS NO GUARANTEE of anything on earth. The guarantees come as a result of INTELLIGENT COOPERATION between ALL OF US working together and focusing upon the more vulnerable,and otherwise weakened places in the Soetoro regime. We amputate a finger here,and a toe there,until we have finally weakened him enough to allow us to now amputate a FOOT or a HAND, I don’t mean this in stark reality,I am saying this as a PROCEDURAL ploy,and as a method to move forward. We ATTACK,ATTACK AND ATTACK all weakened places on a CONTINUOUS BASIS. Certainly the BILLBOARDS is one excellent example of such an attack. I support Unruh in this pursuit. Another potential avenue of attack is via the Kenya connection. That country is near a Civil war,and there are literally thousands of well connected people who for a PRICE could be persuaded to provide certified copies of certain locked down documents,which could possess a great deal of potential DISCOVERY to use against Soetoro at a later date.The BC should remain under constant attack,and from every quarter possible.If a shovel won’t work then we bring an air drill. If that don’t work then we bring DYNAMITE. The DAM WILL COLLAPSE if we keep a CONTINUOUS attack upon it,and once it breeches ALL of the water behind it will flow DOWNSTREAM. This will include all submerged and otherwise hidden entities. In this case the HIDDEN ENTITIES referrs to the PERSONAL DOCUMENTS OF Barry Soetoro.In that guise Carlyle is RIGHT. We MUST work together in CONCENTRATED NUMBERS, and DO EVERYTHING,and ANYTHING each of us can if it is determined that it will HELP OUR CAUSE. Further there certainly is nothing wrong with the MUTUAL EXCHANGE of ideas regarding how best to carry out our attacks. Some people have special information that MIGHT make the differrence. They NEED to be heard. Yes they might say it in a differrent way,but we MUST ALWAYS keep the OBJECTIVE in mind, and if they can help lets give them a seat at the table. But in so doing we must also be extremely careful. Such people could be PLANTS. The best way to catch a plant is watch him/her CLOSELY and see how they behave. Listen CLOSELY to what they say, because sometimes it is ONE or TWO misplaced words that EXPOSES THEM. Often it is what ISN’T said that tells the story. At any rate we need to COME TOGETHER,and stop the PETTY BICKERING. All that accomplishes is DIVIDING US. ” A house divided cannot stand”. I read the comments of everyone,because I have found that usually there is solid logic behind most of what everyone has to say, and sometimes there is something to be learned as well. I personally believe that everybody who offers a comment on CW has something that they see as IMPORTANT to say. If they are OBOTS then let them spew their verbal invective, because if we don’t agree we tell them so and I am sure that if CW gets enough of their ideas,he knows exactly how to bring an end to their imput on this blog. He remains the JUDGE ……….IRREGARDLESS!

  35. Paxson @ 12:16 pm |
    Lying is the one thing that he is good at. I got stuck watching part of it with the sound turned off, he was doing his Mussolini thing last night. A Dem pep rally disguised as a Memorial service how very sad for the victims and their families.
    “It’s very telling that Barack Obama has the capacity to tell a lie, a lie that is so easily disproved, in front of the entire country at a memorial service.”

  36. RMinNC | January 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

    Carlyle….

    You replied that “our observations don’t matter”……..and “the PTB and country-at-large ate it up”…..

    ===============================

    I am with YOU. I nearly puked. But what you and I think or puke is of little significance. The country in November voted against the Democrat Congress and their associates – to a certain extent Senators and Governers. It is not clear they voted against Obama.

    Further, you need to thoroughly understand that voting against policies and all the speechifying etc. that goes with it are far different than voting against the man – or the Obamessiah – or comprehending that he is personally a fraud and a usurper.

    Polls and PTBs believe that it is “unfortunate” that Obama withholds his records. But most believe he is eligible and not a fraud, and that at most there is something personally embarassing in there. (And that further the “vast right wing conspiracy” will milk it.)

    My key point for today is that Obama’s PERSONAL fortune and charisma, etc. just went WAY UP.

    That does not mean I am happy about it. It means that sticking our head in the sands and ignoring that fact is fatal.


  37. Bill G | January 13, 2011 at 1:07 pm | ‘It is best simply to IGNORE THE IDIOT OBOT carlyle. Obot carlyle is only here to disrupt from intelligent discussion.’
    Carlyle’s 11:45 post confirms this observation and reveals them as someone who does not desire the American liberty we are fighting to recover.

    —————————————————
    Ditto!

  38. Free Speech……………..Ref.12:23 PM
    I cite your reference to Abe Lincolns famous line “We the People are the rightful masters…………………”. This couldn’t apply more to our mission which is to “Sink the Soetoro ship by any means necessary”. In a FIGHT we don’t have time to fight among ourselves.If we do we will CERTAINLY LOSE the war. ” A house divided cannot stand”. Just a peaceful thought!

  39. oldsalt79 | January 13, 2011 at 1:19 pm |

    ==============================

    Good job.

    One cannot climb out of the pit of Amateur Hour until one comprehends the adult notion that just because you disagree with someone does not automatically mean they are wrong or are the enemy.

    Further we cannot win the “war we are fighting for American Liberty” until we realize our petty opinions and observations don’t matter much. “They” do not respect us and “they” do not fear us. Until they do, the status quo will continue.

    Why do you think the USSC can “get away” with punting over and over? It is DIRECTLY because they have NO FEAR of punting and they have GREAT FEAR of running the play.

    Consider an analogy with Civil Rights movement. It doesn’t (and did not matter) how many righteous people there were or how many preachers. And the random acts of violence or other extremism didn’t matter either. The only thing that mattered was that THE PEOPLE got up off their butts and clogged up the streets.

    I am trying to get people to understand that what they have been doing and what they propose to keep doing IS NOT working and CANNOT work. The ‘enemy’ is more bigger and more powerful than that.

    If people want to sit in their pajamas, in front of their computer, and foam at the mouth, throw princess fits, and mock me – I don’t care. I am as much a patriot as anybody here – and more than most. I am just sick and tired of watching ineffective behavior.

    We have got to PUT UP OR SHUT UP. The time is NOW. THEY are winning, not us. Every day that goes by, more evil is done. Every day that goes by, the weed is harder to uproot. Every day that goes by, it is closer to The Usurper running out his term, quietly going away, and then getting his picture on the money and face on Mt. Rushmore.

    He will be lionized, like MLK, as “the greatest” and a “turning point” in American History.

    Is that what you all want? That is where you (I mean the juvenile and wrong-headed portion of you, obviously) are headed. Enjoy.

  40. Some things you just can’t pep rally your way out of.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0113/With-new-oversight-powers-House-GOP-aims-to-put-Obama-on-defensive

    With new oversight powers, House GOP aims to put Obama on defensive
    Obama has faced little congressional oversight so far, but with House GOP probing into policies ranging from illegal immigration to health care, the president’s oversight holiday may be over.
    With new oversight powers, House GOP aims to put Obama on defensive
    Obama has faced little congressional oversight so far, but with House GOP probing into policies ranging from illegal immigration to health care, the president’s oversight holiday may be over.

    Incoming oversight committee chair Rep. Darrell Issa (R) of California plans 280 hearings this year alone.

    AP
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    By Gail Russell Chaddock, / staff writer / January 13, 2011

    Washington
    With Republicans taking up gavels in the House, a season of inquiry is opening on Capitol Hill, putting the Obama administration on defense through the 2012 elections.

    Skip to next paragraph
    Related Stories
    On Obama’s agenda: maintain momentum and parry GOP jabs at ‘ObamaCare’
    Obama team braces for Rep. Darrell Issa, avid investigator
    .To date, the Obama administration has faced relatively little congressional oversight. During the past two years, the House Oversight and Government Reform panel has held 197 oversight hearings. But that will change now that Republicans have control. Incoming oversight committee chair Rep. Darrell Issa (R) of California plans 280 hearings this year alone – and counting.

    With the White House and the Democrat-controlled Senate still able to stymie GOP legislation coming from the House, investigations might be one of the most potent ways for House Republicans to leave their mark on this Congress. Committee chairs have broad powers to investigate – and Republican leaders are encouraging them to do so.

    Five House controversies from Week 1: Did Republicans break promises?

    New probes will emerge from many committees and on a range of topics, from the actions of the Federal Reserve during the financial meltdown to enforcement of illegal-immigrant laws to how the administration is implementing sweeping health-care and financial reforms passed by Democrats last year.
    But ground zero is the House oversight committee, a panel with an unusually free hand to pick targets to investigate. Chairman Issa – who famously referred to President Obama as “the most corrupt president in modern times” – calls himself “the House GOP’s chief watchdog.” But he plays down the firebrand image. There will be no witch hunts, he says.
    He, like other committee chairs, is under a mandate from GOP leaders to relate all that they do to the No. 1 issue on the minds of Americans: creating jobs.
    “We are going to focus on jobs and the economy,” Issa says.
    Rep. Fred Upton (R) of Michigan, a moderate and chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee, says his top priority will be “repealing the job-killing ObamaCare.” In addition to probing the implementation of health-care reform, his panel will be investigating how the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) plans to regulate climate change.
    (more)

  41. “Observations” are a precursor to actions. That is one of the reasons why there is very often FORWARD OBSERVATION POSTS in ANY planned, or even ongoing actions. I t is best to have as much information relating to enemy movements, and concentrations,as well as enemy rifle and artillary positions. This comes via FORWARD OPs. Observation often leads to winning the battle,and subsequently……the war.

  42. Michelle | January 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm |

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  43. oldsalt79 | January 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm |

    As I have told you before, os, I do NOT agree with your VIOLENT call for ARMED REVOLUTION. When you use such VIOLENT RHETORIC, you are not better than BO.

    And Obot carlyle, with whom you ODDLY now agree, is an IDIOT so obviously I am NOT going to agree with an OBOT IDIOT like carlyle.</b..

  44. If we do nothing else we MUST…….NO MATTER, AGAIN hand the LIBERALS their heads in 2012. We should be concentrating upon that as a PRIMARY, and an ABSOLUTE fail safe strategy. If we are not able to beat Soetoro at his own CROOKED game then we take charge of the ONLY remaining game in town……….the 2012 elections. We MUST be PREPARING and PAVING our road NOW. If we shut him out in 2012 he will end up as a highly CRITICISED ex POTUS, just as was Jimmy Carter. Carter was laughesd at, cursed, and otherwise berated, and it STILL goes on wherever he shows up.. I foresee this as a secondary option. We simply DEFEAT HIM in the election, which will fix it so that SOETORO will be laughed at and OTHERWISE ridiculed for the rest of his life. He will not be able to go anywhere without being either SPIT ON, RIDICULED, OR CALLED NAMES, some of which MIGHT HAVE RELAVENCE to his already well known and documented LIFE STYLE. Sadly his innocent kids will suffer for his ineptitude.

  45. I’m sure any allegations against Obama by 112th Congress will take 4-5 years to investigate, then he will get a pass from the 113th Congress. We already have the 112th Speaker of the House Carrying Obama’s water less than 72 Hours after being sworn in. Nothing to see here.

  46. oldsalt79 | January 13, 2011 at 2:19 pm |

    It is UTTER FOLLY to advocate that we the people wait until 2012 to legally take our Country back!

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  47. From: WITHOUT OBAMA WE THRIVE!

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/without-obama-we-thrive/#more-5195

    A Comment:

    “Katie
    January 13, 2011 at 9:43 am

    “In one of the most memorable moments of the memorial last night in Tucson, Barack Obama told the pep rally audience that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords had opened her eyes for the first time on Wednesday night.

    It was very emotional moment:

    But, unfortunately it was not true.

    The Sonoran Chronicle reported that Rep. Giffords could open her eyes on Sunday.” (The Sonoron has since pulled the article.)

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/did-obama-lie-about-giffords-opening-her-eyes-for-the-first-time-video/

  48. Emudude | January 13, 2011 at 2:21 pm |

    =============================

    My concern too. I fear all the current huffing and puffing is simply pandering to the tea party. If they were serious, they would stop all work in the congress and have emergency hearings to clear up the eligibility issue once and for all. This whole think could be sorted in one month or even one week.


  49. Bill G | January 13, 2011 at 1:07 pm |

    ‘It is best simply to IGNORE THE IDIOT OBOT carlyle. Obot carlyle is only here to disrupt from intelligent discussion.’
    Carlyle’s 11:45 post confirms this observation and reveals them as someone who does not desire the American liberty we are fighting to recover.

    —————————————————
    Ditto!

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/exposing-obamas-psyops-agents-and.html

  50. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Carlyle- We can scream it from every blog. Nothing of substance will be done until a “leader” with credibility steps forth to organize a massive sit in @ DC- one in which we copy the left’s play book and DO NOT LEAVE! Someone along the lines of a Beck or a Limbaugh. Then, and only then will our plight- America’s plight- be reported by the media.

    In the mean time (and I myself am guilty as charged), we post anonymously on blogs and complain while our Republic is destroyed.

  51. AN EXCELLENT COMMENT
    FROM: “WITHOUT OBAMA WE THRIVE!”

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/without-obama-we-thrive/#more-5195

    “heather
    January 13, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Mary–I have said continuously that every incident concerning barry, or hardship of any kind is a false flag event with a dog and pony show exit…He even had Tshirts there printed with his new logo together we thrive—how very coincidental is that!

    I have also repeated on Dr Kates, that since he has Holder suing AZ for Jan Brewers new immigration bill, he has ENCOURAGED AND INVITED AND DEMANDED that Mexico, Central America, and South America to join in on this lawsuit, saying it is illegal.

    This is treason in the highest–first they deliberately have us in war in more than 1 country, to keep our troops out of America to protect us, and 2nd to encourage any country to sue ours/states is treason……………yet no one does or says a freakn thing. Why are WE THE PEOPLE not sueing him directly for this–and to say we cant sue the govt is bull, a class action all American law suit should be brought against him and all of his bogus agencies that he just puts in place to defeat us.

    And now the newest of all—steal all of our bank accounts and if we decline to give them up the IRS will screw us royally–who the hell does this freakn freak think he is—-we need to be 25 steps ahead of them and take the bull by the horns and that’s all I can post here”

  52. http://www.prisonplanet.com/attempt-by-obama-operatives-to-turn-memorial-into-political-rally-backfires.html

    On Wednesday night in Tucson, Arizona, Obama and the Democrats disrespected the dead and turned a memorial into a cheap and tawdry political rally for the re-election campaign of Barry Obama.

    A few of the usual pundits and observers noticed the obvious attempt to gain political mileage out of the dead and wounded by the Obama machine.

  53. http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-reaction-to-arizona-shooting-manufactured-out-of-rahm-emanuel-playbook.html

    Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has hit out at politicians and those in the media that have attempted to use the tragic shooting in Arizona as a political point scoring exercise.

    Appearing on Freedom Watch with Andrew Napolitano, Paul referred to the former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel’s notorious assertion “you never want a serious crisis go to waste”.

    “Well, these are the kind of things that I think some on the left decided to manufacture even before the events occur. I mean, this is part of the playbook of Rahm Emanuel where they say any crisis should be used to their advantage to further their agenda.”

    “The people who politicize this really ought to be ashamed of themselves.” Paul added.

    “I think it also does a disservice to those who died, to Judge Roll, who died, to representative Giffords. It’s a disservice to them that all of a sudden this tragedy that involves them in a very personal way, and their families, is being discounted so people on the other side of the political spectrum can make political points.”

  54. We must be very careful who we select to run for office in 2012, and above all else we MUST NOT ALLOW the LIBERALS to take a path of CROOKED procedure which it is now very obvious that the Hawaii Democratic Party IN FACT DID, and will probably attempt to do again,but MMMMSSSSS. Pelosi will not be able to assist with this time around. We must select the BEST POSSIBLE candidates, and NOT ALLOW anyone who IS NOT A NBC. to ever be placed on the ballot. As most of us now are aware this fight begins with the leadership,and electors of each state. People like Jindal,and Rubio are NOT NBC. I too like Rubio, but we cannot allow either of them to become candidates for potus. Fortunately we already have a pool of very strong people available to us. The secret will lie in who we choose. I personally think that a ticket having Huckabee, and Sarah Palin would be the winning ticket.But Gingrich running with Huckabee could also beat Soetoro. Equally viable would be a ticket of Newt Gingrich, and Commander Kerchner. Another alternate would be Baldwin, and Keyes, or perhaps Allen West in Keyes place. West could probably fit in well with anybody’s ticket. He is also a very strong potential candidate. Right now though, I still lean towards Huckabee with Sarah Palin. I believe that Palin would capture MOST of the US female vote, and Huckabee would capture enough of the male popular vote, that would leave the electors NO CHOICE even if they were rigged. I think that as it stands now these two have the best chance of together showing Soetoro, and Biden the door. Whoever we choose we MUST PAVE OUR road ahead of us. There are too many potential dangerous potholes.

  55. The MSM would be able to have a field day with Gingrich’s past, but they will be SHOVELING MANURE AGAINST the TIDE where Huckabee and Palin are concerned. They tried it with Palin and spent millions trying to dig up SHI# from her past,and they FAILED MISERABLY. They tried to berate Huckabee as being a dimwitted preacher from Arkansas. Again they Failed MISERABLY. Both Palin and Huckabee have had solid and volumnous high quality PR since 2008. They can easily cash in on this very good PR. The American public has a PERFECT VIEW of both of them. I believe that together they could win the 2012 election by a LANDSLIDE. Public perception of a candidate will be the determining factor. As it stands now both Palin and Huckabee have HAD over two years each to put together their public perception. MSM will AGAIN fail when they attempt to discredit either Huckabee or Palin.

  56. “OBAMA UNVEILS 2012 CAMPAIGN SLOGAN”

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/obama-unveils-2012-campaign-slogan/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “LAW TO BAN “HYPERCHARGED” CRITICISM OF POLITICIANS”

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/law-to-ban-hypercharged-criticism-of-politicians/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “MONTANA IS 5TH STATE TO PROPOSE ELIGIBILITY BILL”

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/montana-is-5th-state-to-propose-eligibility-bill/

  57. A Conservative Military Man of Honor and Distinction will emerge to defeat whatever commie the dems choose once BO is legally removed.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/montana-is-5th-state-to-propose-eligibility-bill/

  58. 68Truthseeker

    Jeff Kuhner on Obama’s Eligibility; Media Privately Admit Serious Constitutional Crisis – 1/6/11

  59. MEST READ!!

    DR. ORLY TAITZ’S VERY EXCELLENT – PUBLIC LETTER TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=17728

  60. MUST READ!!

    DR. ORLY TAITZ’S VERY EXCELLENT – PUBLIC LETTER TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=17728

  61. Free Speech…………………
    Until we can TAKE BACK our FEDERAL Courts there is NOTHING that will move our common cause forward. It is beginning to show through the fabric, and both YOU and I will be FORCED to wait until 2012, that is unless somebody is willing to step up to HOME PLATE and HIT ONE or TWO out of the park. Can you do this? If so then I will stand behind you ,otherwise it is not folly,but CIRCUMSTANCES that CANNOT be changed easily. This will require ALL of ue in UNISON to DIG EVEN DEEPER in our efforts to get Soetoro out the door. As I said if you have a POSITIVE way to do this then by all means……pick up the BAT, and PLAY BALL! Batter up! Three strikes …..your OUT……. LOL

  62. GORDO | January 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm |

    “Birth-certificate billboards inch closer to D.C.”
    _________________________________________________

    They need to put one right on CONSTITUTION AVE.!!

    Where do we sign-up?

  63. Starla………………………….
    Anybody who is able to push through a bill to keep people from their RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH had better be ready to PRACTICE WHAT he/she PREACHES.

  64. oldsalt,

    You do nothing more than distract from intelligent discussion when you post about things that you know nothing about like the Federal Court System.

    It has been asked, “If there is evidence that a crime might have been committed, why not present it to a sitting federal grand jury?”

    Why not, because that would be playing right into BHO’s hand. It has always been BHO’s endgame to steer any criminal cases against him into his Federal Court in DC where Holder can get him acquitted of any crime, including murder, as Holder did for BHO’s Terrorist Pal, the Embassy Bomber.

    Remember the case of DC Mayor Marion Barry who was acquitted in DC Federal Court even after the jury saw videos of him buying and smoking crack cocaine?

    What do you think would happen if cases against BHO were brought in any Federal Court anywhere in the US? Of course, Holder would simply have all the cases removed to his DC Federal Court and get BHO acquitted on all charges.

    Then Double Jeopardy would be applied by Holder to make sure that BHO can never be prosecuted again for any crimes.

    State Courts are where charges must be brought against BHO and his co-conspirators if you ever want to have BHO brought to Justice.

    Of course, you would not want to bring a case in Monroe County, Tennessee, but imagine if criminal cases were brought against BHO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts like that of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona. It is a good bet that BHO and his local co-conspirators would be convicted there.

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

  65. Why hasn’t a conservative expressed outrage at the BO’s wasting our money on his DISGUSTING PEP RALLY.

    I heard Rush today and he really humiliated BO but no mention was made by any of his callers about BO wasting Federal money on his HIDEOUS NARCISSISTIC ORGY last night.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//110112/480/urn_publicid_ap_org_ffb533d16d6548058df1085e682a679d/

  66. WE THE PEOPLE wear a collective shoe size of size 15. If it becomes necessary we only need to plant this size 15 shoe firmly on the backside of any Congressman/Congresswoman who we send to represent us,but become the GOOD OLE BOYS, OR GIRLS instead, and MISREPRESENT us. The EXITS OF MOST STATEHOUSES ARE CLEARLY MARKED.They will INDEED feel the brunt of our size 15 on their respective rear ends at the EXITS. We need to start training the size 15 practitioners NOW in preparation for 2012. The shoe then needs to be squarely planted on the backside of anyone who PRETENDS TO BE OUR POTUS, along with their supporters, cabinet members,and their DOJ criminal allies.

  67. A question for our legal eagles – Wont the USURPER have to resubmit all the forms necessary to prove his eligibility again to the different states? I think this narcissistic impostor has a feeling that the people will demand that he be made eligible. I KID YOU NOT.

  68. Walmart should be sued along with Dupnik for Negligence in a Wrongful Death Lawsuit.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/see-something-say-something-loughner-bought-bullets-at-walmart.html

    It looks like Walmart and its customers dropped the ball.

    “Jared Lee Loughner was turned away at one Walmart location when he tried to buy bullets just hours before his shooting rampage in Tucson,” reports the Daily Beast. “He eventually went to another Walmart and successfully bought ammunition, according to sources close to the matter who spoke to The Wall Street Journal. No reason was given for the first Walmart rejecting him.”

  69. Free speech……………….
    Then all you have to do is step up to the plate asnd SHOW US HOW it should be done. Again I see this only as your opinion to which you are indeed entitled. But don’t try to assess what I know and or don’t know in a public forum which is designed to either HUMILIATE or PUBLICALLY DISCREDIT ME. I have already been inm contact with thwe Tennesseee Disciplinary Commission regarding your verbal outrages against many of our members IN PUBLIC FORUM.

  70. ms.helga | January 13, 2011 at 4:20 pm | A question for our legal eagles – Wont the USURPER have to resubmit all the forms necessary to prove his eligibility again to the different states? I think this narcissistic impostor has a feeling that the people will demand that he be made eligible. I KID YOU NOT.

    ————————————–

    Yes, Ms Helga, you are correct.

  71. Free Speech…………………
    You have a lot to lose.

  72. MS Helga……………………
    That loosely would be regarded as PRECEDENT which will be established if he is not brought into a court prior to his attempt to run for a second term. His supporters can point to this and try to make everybody think up is down, and sadly most will probably swallow it hook line and sinker.

  73. Rosemary Woodhouse

    oldsalt wrote, “We must select the BEST POSSIBLE candidates, and NOT ALLOW anyone who IS NOT A NBC. to ever be placed on the ballot. As most of us now are aware this fight begins with the leadership,and electors of each state. People like Jindal,and Rubio are NOT NBC. I too like Rubio, but we cannot allow either of them to become candidates for potus.”

    Yet there are republicans and conservatives speaking of either as a good, solid candidate. This must be headed off at the pass. At issue is the definition of NBC since, shockingly, this seems to be a matter of debate. And for the record, and as I’ve written before, I, too, like Rubio and Jindal- just not for POTUS.

    This is how society becomes debauched and the rule of law rendered disposable: a slow, steady, chipping away while the populace turns its collective head and pretends nothing is amiss.

  74. oldsalt,

    Evidently, you have a problem with reading comprehension so just watch or listen to the video.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  75. oldsalt, another video for your much needed education.

  76. More education for you, oldsalt.

  77. oldsalt listen carefully.

  78. RMinNC @10:54 said: “First I didn’t see any signs of a “man of the cloth” give a prayer for the souls of the dead. I saw no flowers or a cross on the stage.
    I saw an Indian medicine man waving a feather speaking of doors. That may have been correct if the massacre had been on an Indian reservation and the dead had been Indians, but they weren’t.
    Those slain were white, Anglo-Saxons and the killings were in a mall…so I think a religous leader should have given a sober prayer at least to start the ceremony…but that didn’t happen. ”
    ********************************
    Thank you for your observations. I agree 100% with what you wrote. The man who gave the prayer is a physician of Indian and Mexican heritage who made it a point to speak about his own ethnic background/religious ritualistic practice for quite awhile, exploiting the podium to make a political point and to highlight that his son is serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan. As you stated, this memorial was supposed to be about the victims.
    FYI, the shooter abused Salvia, a hallucinogen used by the Mazateca shamans in religious ritual, which is being trafficked into our neighborhoods by the Mexican drug cartels, as reported last night on Michael Savage’s radio program. Yes, tuning into one’s inner voices by dropping out with drugs often provokes anti-social behavior, self-neglect, isolation, psychosis, aggression or violence against others, but the mainstream media views the villains in this tragedy as talk radio, firearms and budget cuts to mental health services in the 70’s. Preventing our children from falling victim to the poison in the streets and the gangs which grow it, ship it and sell it seems to be an unpopular platform for the mainstream pundits, especially since many of the drug traffickers invaded our southern border and can vote in the next election.

  79. Evidently you are as courageous as the average Honduran, oldsalt.

  80. Lillibet | January 13, 2011 at 4:44 pm | RMinNC @10:54 said: “First I didn’t see any signs of a “man of the cloth” give a prayer for the souls of the dead. I saw no flowers or a cross on the stage.
    I saw an Indian medicine man waving a feather speaking of doors. That may have been correct if the massacre had been on an Indian reservation and the dead had been Indians, but they weren’t.
    Those slain were white, Anglo-Saxons and the killings were in a mall…so I think a religous leader should have given a sober prayer at least to start the ceremony…but that didn’t happen. ”
    ********************************
    Thank you for your observations. I agree 100% with what you wrote. The man who gave the prayer is a physician of Indian and Mexican heritage who made it a point to speak about his own ethnic background/religious ritualistic practice for quite awhile, exploiting the podium to make a political point and to highlight that his son is serving in either Iraq or Afghanistan. As you stated, this memorial was supposed to be about the victims.
    FYI, the shooter abused Salvia, a hallucinogen used by the Mazateca shamans in religious ritual, which is being trafficked into our neighborhoods by the Mexican drug cartels, as reported last night on Michael Savage’s radio program. Yes, tuning into one’s inner voices by dropping out with drugs often provokes anti-social behavior, self-neglect, isolation, psychosis, aggression or violence against others, but the mainstream media views the villains in this tragedy as talk radio, firearms and budget cuts to mental health services in the 70′s. Preventing our children from falling victim to the poison in the streets and the gangs which grow it, ship it and sell it seems to be an unpopular platform for the mainstream pundits, especially since many of the drug traffickers invaded our southern border and can vote in the next election.

    ——————————————-
    Yes, BO is aiding and abetting his Drug Terrorist Pals in their invasion of Azrizona which is why Judge Roll and Congresswoman Giffords were on BO’s Enemies List.

  81. More Obama Hypocrisy

    There is a famous photo of four national leaders standing before the American flag. The Pledge of Allegiance was being recited. Three of them have their hand on their heart–one does not. The one who didn’t have his hand on his heart was Obama. Obama once described the National Anthem as inspiring to violence and war. He wants a new one.

    Last night he told every one to put their hand over their hearts and pay attention to the words of the National Anthem. What a hypocrite.

    Obama went to speak at a Christian school and insisted all the Christian religious symbols and statues be covered. Last night he quoted from the Bible instead of the Quran. That must have been painful for him!

    Our we beginning to see the powerful influence of Bill Daly, from Chicago, his new chief of staff over Obama? Suddenly Obama is becoming an American patriot and a Christian? The entire speech was too long winded and disingenuous to me. The sad thing is there are too many people with short memories to see through the usurping, lying fraud.

  82. Free Speech…………….
    I reiterate……you are entitled to your OPINIONS. That is one of the primary functions of the blog. I also reiterate don’t verbally attempt to publically discredit,and/or humiliate me, or anyone else on this blog. I have printed off every thing that you have said for a very long time,and am preparing a parcel to be forwarded to both the Tennesee Bar Association, and the State Disciplinary Arm of the Tennesee Supreme Court. This complaint will go forward via our Our Superior Court, unless you are willing to tone down your often extreme verbal attacks on the members of this blog. I believe that I would have little problem in soliciting the signatures of all who were verbally PUBLICALLY ATTACKED , discredited,and otherwise humiliated by your words. This is conduct unbecoming a LISCENSED attorney. The Tennesseee Bar Association has asserted that a formal complait will be acted upon. As it stands now you are a member IN GOOD STANDING. They can change that.

  83. Old Salt, Here! Here! The most effective promises are those which can be kept. I am also a State licensed professional and have been careful to be responsible in my remarks on this blog, in the event that I am held to account for them.

  84. From Newsmax
    Obama’s Last Stand
    A re-energized Republican Party is storming Washington following its election success armed with an ambitious agenda to stop and roll back President Obama’s liberal agenda.
    Newsmax magazine’s special report, “Obama’s Last Stand: The Showdown,” takes an in-depth look at a GOP determined to slash spending, cut taxes, reduce the deficit, replace Obamacare, launch investigations – and most significantly, the GOP’s secret plan to take back the White House and make Obama a one-term president.
    Make no mistake, Obama and the GOP are heading for a showdown in Washington, with Republicans drawing battle lines against an unpopular president — and Obama facing his last stand

  85. Free Speech………………
    Your most recent “availability” to the Nashville court system is without a doubt still in record,I tend to think that both the Nashville Bar Association, and the Disciplinary Arm of the Tennesee Supreme Court would not look favorably upon your CHILDISH, and unmerrited outbursts against others who are merely expressing their thoughts in public forum. A compaint particulary when it involves INTERSTATE internet activity might possibly provoke DISCIPLINARY action against you.
    Sadly I often agree with what you have to say. But it is totally unnecessary to verbally attack people and ATTEMPT TO PUBLICALLY HUMILIATE them or otherwise discredit them. If it causes anyone a loss you could be held liable for compensating your victim,and given the new forthcoming FCC laws regarding the internet you could become the first person to be prosecuted for INTERSTATE INTERNET CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. and at the same time maybe even have your LAW LISCENSE YANKED.
    Perhaps someday we can discuss issues with each other in a CIVILISED, and otherwise PEACEFUL manner. I think that EVERYBODY on the blog would INVITE such exchanges. It really isn’t that difficult. You need to learn to control your temper,just as I had to learn to control mine. We can be civilised if we are willing to work at it. Perhaps you can agree with that.

  86. I really admire and respect Chris Christie-he has a very difficult job with many challenges which he is taking head on for WE THE PEOPLE.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/gov-christie-ill-fight-when-it-matters/

    Gov. Christie: ‘I’ll Fight When it Matters’

  87. Bill G ………………..
    Thanx for the agreeing with what I ALREADY KNEW before FREE SPEECH was EVEN ON EARTH. Having operated a business for several DECADES, I occasionally found it necessary to confront several so called attorneys because for one reason or another they thought that they didn’t have to pay for what they ordered. We were often faced with having to file a complaint against them first at the Bar Association level then if that didn’t produce payment then he went before the Disciplinary Commission. Here in Indiana that has ALWAYS produced an AGREEMENT TO PAY THE OUTSTANDING DEBT. Particularly when accompanied by the DAMNING evidence.

  88. Michelle………………..
    The last info that I read said that at least 70% of Americans, and probably from all walks of life, do NOT want the FED to increase the FEDERAL debt limit. Everytime that they have done that they have FAILED to remain within that established limit. Now they want it extended AGAIN. The people who can’t control their spending habits of OUR MONEY need to be the recipients of the proverbial SIZE 15 planted squarely upon their backsides via the BALLOT BOX.

  89. I so agree with everyone that this memorial should have been held in a church, with ministers, priests, rabbis, jointly or separately, conducting the service, and feel such additional sadness for the victim’s families being there and having to endure that charade. It’s certainly been said before, but where was Obummer’s memorial when many more were wounded and killed at Fort Hood? Why can’t Obummer show up where there is a cross displayed, and demands religious icons and crosses be covered in venues where he is going to read from his teleprompter? How many of that loud, offensive rabble in attendance at the memorial were paid to be there and bussed in?
    Remember when Obummer wanted his followers to hold their two hands upraised together and form an “O” for his greater glory? I suggest when Obummer makes an appearance henceforth the public, en masse, should form crosses with their fingers and hold a sea of crosses up to his face.

    Old Salt: Love your common sense and gumption…don’t let
    “elititists in their own mind only” grind you down.

  90. kiltie | January 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    kiltie says,
    Old Salt: Love your common sense and gumption…don’t let
    “elititists in their own mind only” grind you down.
    *******************************
    To whom it may concern: Listen up!

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