Blagojevich claims Emanuel John Harris conversation tape missing, Rod Blagojevich attorneys file pretrial motion

Blagojevich claims Emanuel John Harris conversation tape missing, Rod Blagojevich attorneys file pretrial motion

“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

From the Chicago Tribune February 7, 2011.

“Attorneys for Rod Blagojevich filed a pretrial motion Tuesday seeking what they claimed was missing evidence in the impeached Illinois governor’s corruption trial, including records of a phone call between a Blagojevich aide and then White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

The motion claims the telephone conversation took place just a day before Blagojevich’s December 2008 arrest on charges that include allegations he sought to sell or trade the appointment to President Barack Obama’s vacated Senate seat for personal gain. The motion says details of that conversation could bolster a defense contention that Emanuel, who has not been accused of any wrongdoing, was willing to help with a political deal in which Blagojevich would have named Illinois’ attorney general to the seat.

But the call between Emanuel and then Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris is not among hundreds of transcripts of secret FBI wiretaps recorded before Blagojevich’s arrest. The defense motion points only to circumstantial evidence that it even happened, including a reference in a White House transition-team report from after the arrest that said Emanuel had “about four” conversations with Harris. The defense was given records of only three conversations, according to the motion.

“The fourth and final phone call is the call that is mysteriously missing,” it adds. “Piecing together multiple documents after the first trial, Blagojevich uncovered the fact that the December 8th phone call … took place.”

A message seeking comment left on a voicemail overnight at the U.S. attorney’s office wasn’t immediately returned.

Blagojevich faces 23 charges at his April retrial, after jurors at his first trial last year agreed only on one of 24 counts and convicted him of lying to the FBI. Both prosecutors and defense attorneys have been ordered to file all pretrial motions by next week.

The defense’s latest filing comes just two weeks before Chicago’s mayoral election. Emanuel has a considerable fundraising advantage and leads in polls in the race to replace retiring Mayor Richard Daley.

Emanuel has said little about the Blagojevich case publicly, often citing the ongoing legal proceedings for not commenting in detail. The White House report released in 2008 by the then president-elect’s office concluded neither Emanuel nor anyone else on Obama’s staff had had any “inappropriate discussions” with Blagojevich or his aides.

It found that Emanuel had had “one or two telephone calls” with Blagojevich and “about four” with Harris, who testified for the government at Blagojevich’s first trial.”

Read more:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-us-blagojevichtrial-,0,2339978.story

Here is a wiretap from several weeks before the alleged conversation from the Blagojevich trial.

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125 responses to “Blagojevich claims Emanuel John Harris conversation tape missing, Rod Blagojevich attorneys file pretrial motion

  1. Now that the PTBs have turned against BO, it is time to renew the push for indictments of BO and his local c0-conspirators in every County in every State in America.

    BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  2. Just recently, a Washington, DC-based legal group uncovered documents from the Department of Homeland Security that detail a two-day meeting on January 27 and 28, 2010, between DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and Arab, Muslim, Sikh, and South Asian “community leaders.”
    Judicial Watch communications director Jill Farrell told the Law Enforcement Examiner that her public-interest group obtained documents that include a list of participating individuals and organizations in Napolitano’s meeting with individuals with controversial radical ties, including:

    * Imad Hamad, Midwest Regional Director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. According to investigative reporter Debbie Schlussel, Hamad is connected to the Marxist-Leninist terrorist group Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and has financially supported the Islamist terrorist group Hezbollah. In a television interview in 2002 on Fox’s Detroit affiliate, Hamad supported a Palestine Authority TV program that urged children to become suicide bombers, calling the program “patriotic.”

    * Salam Al-Marayati, Founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC): According to press reports, Al-Mayarati has long been criticized for his extremist views and statements. In 1999 former House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt (D-MO) withdrew his nomination of Al-Mayarati to the National Commission on Terrorism because of Al-Mayarati’s extremist politics. Al-Marayati once said, “When Patrick Henry said, ‘Give me liberty or give me death,’ that statement epitomized Jihad [Islamic holy war].”

    Continue reading on Examiner.com: O’Reilly interview: Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood support questioned – National public safety | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/public-safety-in-national/o-reilly-interview-obama-s-muslim-brotherhood-support-questioned#ixzz1DNE8ZwYv

  3. Beck exposes bo & muslim brotherhood Pt. 1

    Beck exposes bo & muslim brotherhood Pt. 2

  4. Beck exposes bo & muslim brotherhood Pt. 2

  5. CFR Meeting: Zbigniew Brzezinski
    Global Awakening Challenges US Dominance

    Council on Foreign Relations in Montreal in May, 2010

    http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/political-science/cfr-meeting-zbigniew-brzezinskiglobal-awakening-challenges-us-dominance.html

  6. Cheney calls Mubarak a good friend, US ally

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=195586

  7. Jonah | February 8, 2011 at 5:57 am |

    Iowa Republican Focus Group: Obama Is a Muslim (Video)
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:37 PM

    An Iowa Republican focus group ripped Obama over his handling of the Egyptian crisis. Nearly half of the focus group members believed that Obama was acting against the interests of the United States because he was a Muslim. The other half believed he was a committed liberal.

    They all agreed he was a disaster.

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/02/iowa-republican-caucus-voters-obama-is-a-muslim-video/

  8. Bill Cutting | February 8, 2011 at 6:55 am | Iowa Republican Focus Group: Obama Is a Muslim (Video)
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:37 PM
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    Wow, I listened to this on the radio while driving last night, Luntz was shocked. Kudo’s to theses folks for telling the truth.

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    It is obvious from recent Fox videos exposing bo’s involvement with the muslim brotherhood TERRORISTS and the code pink marxist TERRORISTS that the Powers that Be (PTBs) have turned against bo.

    bo’s failed plot to overthrow all of our allies in the Middle East has been so thoroughly exposed that now even the Saudi Royal Family is against bo.

    With all the PTBs against him now, bo’s days of illegally occupying our White House are numbered.

  9. Mandatory Arabic Classes Coming To Mansfield

    Some Students at Mansfield ISD schools could soon be learning Arabic as a required language. The school district wants students at select schools to take Arabic language and culture classes as part of a federally funded grant.

    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/07/mandatory-arabic-classes-coming-to-mansfield/

  10. The court document for the latest filing by Attorney Orly Taitz was posted on yesterday’s thread, but here is a related article:

    BORN IN THE USA?
    Obama’s Social Security number goes to court
    Complaint in federal district seeks evidence of suspected fraud

    Read more: Obama’s Social Security number goes to court http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=261033#ixzz1DNhRNtjU

  11. From the posts of some here, one would think that we have reached the crest of the Egyptian crisis and we are entering relatively safe territory now. To the contrary, read this:

    GLOBAL JIHAD
    Muslim Brotherhood awakens terrorist wing
    Look what Obama’s support for Islamist group is doing

    An Egyptian Islamist terrorist organization founded by the Muslim Brotherhood is re-establishing itself amid the political upheaval in Cairo, WND has learned.

    Both Egyptian and Israeli security officials said the group, Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya, is being reconstituted at the direction of the Muslim Brotherhood.
    (snip)
    While the Brotherhood claimed it abandoned violence to push for a peaceful takeover of Egypt, the group’s new spiritual leader, Muhammad Badi, recently has publicly called for violent jihad, including against the U.S.

    Read more: Muslim Brotherhood awakens terrorist wing http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=261069#ixzz1DNjGj73Y

  12. Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood: In Their Own Words
    (excerpt)
    • The Muslim Brotherhood has taken a greater role in organizing the protest against the Egyptian regime as it unfolds its independent political agenda. Rashad al-Bayumi, the Brotherhood’s second-in-command, announced in an interview with Japanese TV that the group would join a transitional government in order to cancel the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel, as it “offends the Arabs’ dignity and destroys the interests of Egypt and other Arab states.” He further stressed that Egypt does not need American aid.

    • The Muslim Brotherhood does indeed participate in political activity and defend the democratic process. That is not, however, because it has accepted the principles of Western democracy, but rather because the democratic process can be exploited to establish an Islamic regime which will then render democracy unnecessary.

    http://tinyurl.com/4raje4q

  13. Allen West Urges Us To Define Our Islamist Enemy & Then Set Our Objectives Accordingly

    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/02/allen-west-urges-us-to-define-our.html

  14. As Beck exposes bo’s musBro connections, the obots flood the internet with Diversionary Red Herring articles.

    Patriots must focus on taking the necessary steps to legally remove bo.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  15. The Federal Bailout of the States Begins

    http://minx.cc/?post=311810

  16. Philo-Publius | February 8, 2011 at 10:58 am | Allen West Urges Us To Define Our Islamist Enemy & Then Set Our Objectives Accordingly

    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/02/allen-west-urges-us-to-define-our.html

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    President Reagan and President George W. Bush defined the War on Terror against bo’s Muslim Brotherhood. What we the People need to do is indict bo and his local co-conspirators and eliminate the Traitors in our own government.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  17. Sounds like the oldest trick on television crime shows.

    The crook has the evidence stolen and then the crooks lawyer pretends like the prosecution is trying to hide evidence that would show the crook to be innocent.

  18. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/DSouza-Obama-Muslim-Brotherhood/2011/02/01/id/384644

    In Obama’s view, the United States is a neo-colonial power occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, D’Souza says. “He sees the Muslims fighting against America as freedom fighters.”

    As a result, Obama may not view the Muslim Brotherhood as a problem.

    In his eyes, they may be “good guys trying to liberate Egypt from this horrible dictator Mubarak, supported by us, the rogue nation,” D’Souza says.

    “So Obama might encourage the democracy movement, not because he’s an idealist about democracy, but because he might approve of the overthrow of a pro-American dictator and a reduced footprint for America in that region.”

  19. It is my belief that the Weather Underground is still very much alive ,and well. It is not a question of will Ayers strike again. I believe it is more accurate to ask WHEN. Ayers is committed to the destruction of this country,and will HAPPILY kill anyone who gets in his,or MMMMSSSSS. Dohrn’s way. Hopefully somebody will catch both of them with deadly weapons or BOMBS in their hands, and do the same thing to both of them that was done to Bonnie and Clyde, which finally put an end to their crime spree. Ayers,like all of us is under a death penalty. That too is only a question of WHEN. Hopefully some of us will live to WITNESS his demise. Without a doubt it will be a violent death.

  20. I wonder when the American People will start to do a little research and begin to put together the connections. Google and Obama in the past. Now, Google Executives ‘Hero’ of the Egypt revolt. Egypt, Tunesia, and Jordon have fingerprints suggesting Obama operations.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/08/google-executive-hailed-hero-online/

    http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/google-blocks-anti-obama-blogs/

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/google-and-the-anti-obama-bloggers/

    Pete

  21. How can anyone be surprised at what is happening in the Middle East?

    When the United States of America elects as their President a virtual “unknown” with the name of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, who lived for a time in Muslim dominated Indonesia and traveled to Parkistan on his so-called college summer vacation; surrounds his entire adult life with radical marxists and pro palistinian supporters, what exactly would one expect????

    I mean, seriously…..Do you think this could have been possible? Let this sink in. If the election was held on 9/12/2001, how many Americans do you believe would have voted for someone named BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA????

  22. A MUST READ EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!

    “[...] OBAMA IS A USURPER, OUST HIM! – SAMPLE LETTER FROM CREATOR OF “CYC” CAMPAIGN FOR READERS TO USE”

    By Gracie Sweet
    Published On February 1, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “It is a national disgrace that our Congress KNOWS there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency, because of the requirement that one “SHALL BE” a “natural born citizen”. There is no doubt that that means having TWO American parents, not one. Do not be cowed by any attempt at a charge of a “witch hunt” from either the Dems or your own party.

    You have the power, Congress[people], to subpoena Obama’s records and make the determination that Americans have been waiting 2-1/2 yrs for. For too long the Democrats have steam-rolled the Republicans, who in trying to retain civil discourse, have instead capitulated to the Democrats race-baiting and every other form of intimidation that they could level at the Republicans.

    It is high-time the Republicans, and you especially because of the position of trust and authority you are in, investigate the People’s claims that Barack Hussein Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT! We are never going to give up getting to the truth, and if our elected officials fail us on this most critical issue, God help you, because we will do everything in our power to vote you out and Tea Party candidates in. We are sick and tired of RINOs who “go along to get along”.

    Investigate Obama, and the sooner the better, because what is happening in the Middle East could very well happen here in this country. All of our elected officials have turned a deaf ear to us for going on three years now and that has to end. YOU HAVE THE POWER, CONGRESS[PEOPLE]!!! USE IT!!!”

    Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/02/01/memo-to-congress-if-obama-is-a-usurper-oust-him/

    An Excellent Comment From:

    “CDR Kerchner says:
    Tuesday, February 1, 2011 at 7:45 PM

    Good letter but to make it explicitly clear in this sentence a couple more adjectives could have been added. It is not that his father was African but that his father was a foreign national and not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant to the USA. So in this sentence if others write change it …

    From: there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency.

    To: there is a problem with Obama, who had a non-U.S. Citizen, foreign national African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency.

    Because these people in Congress weave and dodge on the words in your letters you have to make it explicitly clear to these people in Congress what the main issue is … i.e., that Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant, nor even a permanent resident in the USA. He was a foreign national sojourning here for a few years attending college. The child of a foreign national father is NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States to constitutional standards.

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-maybe-citizen-of-united-states.html

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “Robert Laity says:
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 6:16 AM

    This issue has a long time ago passed the “If” level. OBAMA IS A USURPER.”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  23. Looks like Emmanuel wasted no time getting back to his work of Dirty Politics — just like the White House.

    NO TIME TO BE WASTED: Republicans better turn that heat up QUICKLY or this moron in the WH will be re-elected.

    IF THE GOP WANTS TO KEEP THE STARS AND STRIPES:

    * * * * * * * * * *==================
    * * * * * * * * * *==================
    * * * * * * * * * *==================

    THEY BETTER get that “FIRE THESE PERSONS” BUS BACK ON THE ROAD and start concentrating on EXPOSING these people:
    AXELROD
    REID
    PELOSI
    ISSA
    SCOTT BROWN

    LIGHT A FIRE UNDER THE BUTTS OF THE GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. FROM: THE POST & EMAIL, INC.

    “THE POST & EMAIL ANNOUNCES NEW CITIZEN-DRIVEN ELIGIBILITY INITIATIVE – READER BEGINS “CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMEN” (CYC) CAMPAIGN”

    By Gracie Sweet
    Published On Jan. 17, 2011

    Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/17/the-post-email-announces-new-citizen-driven-eligibility-initiative/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “FIRST REPORT ON CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMEN CAMPAIGN – READER WHO BEGAN CAMPAIGN ISSUES FIRST TALLY”

    By Sharon Rondeau
    Published On Jan. 23, 2011

    Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/23/first-report-on-contact-your-congressmen-campaign/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  25. CabbyAZ………………………………..
    The Muslim SLIME can only perpetrate the downfall of our civilisation, if we are either too weak, too ignorant, or to complacent,and/or a combination of all three, to see the truth before it is too late. But sadly even if we see the truth will anybody have the intestinal fortitude to do anything to prevent his/her own DEMISE in the oozing Islamic slime.

  26. We true Patriots must not fall for the fatalism of the obots.

    The obots want us to become demoralized and feel that we are doomed.

    We must focus on bringing bo and his criminal cohorts like Ayers and Dohrn to justice. Violently striking out at them will do our Nation no good.
    Our Founding Fathers gave us the Grand Jury system for dealing with people like Ayers and Dohrn.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  27. Starla………………………
    You can rest assured that Congress WILL NOT ACT, until the American people FORCE it to act. This will NOT happen by writing to them or emailing them. There is a MORE DIRECT approach which is done EN MASSE, IN DC. Everybody is seeing the MODEL in Egypt. Such a action would serve well to build fires under the butts of our DO NOTHING Congresspersons. Time to put some REAL HEAT under their BACKSIDES.

  28. HonorFirst | February 8, 2011 at 11:52 am |

    Pete | February 8, 2011 at 11:50 am |

    I wonder when the American People will start to do a little research and begin to put together the connections. Google and Obama in the past. Now, Google Executives ‘Hero’ of the Egypt revolt. Egypt, Tunesia, and Jordon have fingerprints suggesting Obama operations.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/08/google-executive-hailed-hero-online/

    http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/google-blocks-anti-obama-blogs/

    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/google-and-the-anti-obama-bloggers/

    Pete

    ——————————————–
    All the research has been done into bo’s muslim Terrorist ties. Beck’s videos above are an excellent source of info. Also bo’s despicable acts in Kenya with his cousin Odinga are well documented as well. Americans just need to open their eyes.

    BO & Odinga incite Riots in Kenya.

  29. By inciting unsuspecting Patriots to commit acts of violence like those committed by bo’s musBros in Egypt, obots are attempting to set up to do exactly what bo wants them to do.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  30. Old Salt,
    “You can rest assured that Congress WILL NOT ACT, until the . . .”
    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT — AS I SAID IN EARLIER POST: GOP REV YOUR ENGINES. TEA PARTY, GET THOSE BUSSES ON THE ROAD DO IT NOW, NOT TOMORROW, DO IT TODAY, RIGHT NOW!!!!

    NO TIME TO WASTE. THIS PRESIDENT NOW IS TRYING TO SELL HIMSELF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS RONALD REAGAN’S CLONE, DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN.

  31. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/07/administration-drop-kicks-ambassador-remarks-mubarak-echoes-sentiment/

    Wisner shocked a conference of diplomats assembled in Munich Saturday when he said that Mubarak had to keep a leadership role at least temporarily if the “fragile glimmerings” of progress were to take hold as quickly as needed to prevent radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood from filling the void.

    “President Mubarak’s role remains utterly critical in the days ahead while we sort our way toward a future” in which Egypt is peaceful and moderate, and committed to its international obligations, including its peace treaty with Israel, Wisner said via teleconference.

    Nearly immediately the administration distanced itself from Wisner…

    “Former Ambassador Wisner is not an employee of the government,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Monday. “He was, based on his broad experience in Egypt, asked by the State Department … to travel to Cairo and have a specific conversation with President Mubarak. He did, and reported that back to us. But his views on who should or shouldn’t be the head of Egypt don’t represent the views of our administration.”

    Clinton added that forcing Mubarak to leave office quickly could complicate the already enormous challenges Egypt faces in transforming itself from autocracy to democracy. In fact, Clinton said, Mubarak’s departure could affect “significant actions” he has himself taken to get the reform process started.

  32. The revolution in Egypt is being masterminded by a phalanx of young Internet executives in the Big Apple’s SoHo, specially set up for fomenting revolutions, and the unwitting American taxpayer is paying for it.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33049

  33. SHERMAN TANK | February 8, 2011

    “THIS PRESIDENT NOW IS TRYING TO SELL HIMSELF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS RONALD REAGAN’S CLONE.”
    ———————————————————
    NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

  34. Philo-Publius | February 8, 2011 at 12:38 pm | The revolution in Egypt is being masterminded by a phalanx of young Internet executives in the Big Apple’s SoHo, specially set up for fomenting revolutions, and the unwitting American taxpayer is paying for it.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33049

    —————————————–

    Actually these revolts for regime change were masterminded by bo and his muslim brotherhood. There is plenty of PROOF of bo’s direct involvement in these illegal revolts against our Allies. See the Beck videos above.

    http://bigpeace.com/bbarrack/2011/01/30/underground-uprising-in-egypt/

    We know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports the uprising in Egypt. The Obama administration does as well. Based on the release of a secret document, it’s been learned that the United States government supported the April 6 Youth Movement – a group that played a key role in the uprising – in the form of a summit in Washington, D.C. That summit took place from December 3-5, 2008. We also know that Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn were in Cairo a little more than one year later, engaging in protests while attempting to show solidarity with Hamas by entering Gaza with Egyptian protesters.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289698/Egypt-protests-secret-US-document-discloses-support-for-protesters.html

    Washington Meetings and April 6 Ideas for Regime Change

  35. Thanks for fighting for truth and justice. I just came back from the Doctors office, and asked him what he thought about ObamaCare ect… He claims it doesn’t matter the citizenship of the parents…..I said and you claim to have an education…. I told him I would return with some info. A Woman’s Job is never done. :)

  36. The Great Patriot Donald Rumsfeld is on Rush now. He is criticizing the uncivil obots who are calling for violence like we have witnessed by bo’s muslim brotherhood in Egypt.

    Rumsfeld said the bo regime will not speak out about the evil of the muslim brotherhood Terrorists.

    Rumsfeld said the problem in Egypt the most vicious radicals will try to take over.

    Rumsfeld compared Egypt now to Iran in 1979.

  37. Listening to Donald Rumsfeld makes me hopeful for our future. He said, “God bless President Bush.” He said that President Bush courageously put a system in place that keep us safe for nearly a decade and that the system is still in place.

    Now all we need to do is legally remove the bo regime and start securing our Nation again.

    BO MUST GO!

  38. Margie…
    Keep this in the back of your mind the next time you go to that Dentist who appears to support this Administration and Obamascarecare:

    I REFUSE TO DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT. I VOTE WITH MY POCKET BOOK.

    DO NOT SUPPORT BUSINESSES LIKE YOUR DENTIST.

    VOTE WITH YOUR CHECK BOOK. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

  39. Philo-Publius

    Code Pink & Muslim Brotherhood Held Joint Protests Together BACK IN 2008

    http://tinyurl.com/6x6jufs

  40. Rush had a Fabulous interview with Rumsfeld. He is such an incredibly positive and powerful man.

  41. Rumsfeld? You mean MR. ASPARTAME!!! Powerful…yes. Positive… depends on which side your on.

  42. Code Pink & Muslim Brotherhood Held Joint Protests Together BACK IN 2008

    http://tinyurl.com/6x6jufs

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    Aljazeera: But what does the US have to do with a military trial in Egypt?

    Cindy Sheehan: If we [America] really want to promote democracy in this region then we cannot silence the voices of the Muslim Brotherhood because they’re the moderate voice….
    ————————————————-
    BO was involved in these illegal attempts at regime change from the beginning.

    Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood Links Deserve Second Look

    http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=2972

    http://bigpeace.com/taylorking/2011/02/03/obama-code-pink-and-egypt-there-are-no-coincidences-in-politics/

    Code Pink has worked to support the communist dictatorship of the Castro brothers in Cuba, the terrorist regime of Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and the government of Fidel Castro wannabe Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. The group has visited each of these nations as guests of their respective governments.

    Code Pink has also met with various terrorist groups including Hamas, the Taliban and Iraqi “insurgents.” Code Pink has even acted as a messenger between terrorists and President Barack Obama.

    Last year Code Pink invited the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood to “join us in cleansing our country.”

  43. Prairie | February 8, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Rumsfeld? You mean MR. ASPARTAME!!! Powerful…yes. Positive… depends on which side your on.
    ~~~~~~~~
    Oh, Prairie…you’re just getting started with this traitor’s issues.

  44. I’m on the same side that Rush is on. The side of the United States of America against bo & the muslim brotherhood.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/obama-met-muslim-brotherhood-members-in-u-s-1.277306

    U.S. President Barack Obama met with members of Egypt’s Islamist opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, earlier this year, according to a report in Thursday editions of the Egyptian daily newspaper Almasry Alyoum.

    The newspaper reported that Obama met the group’s members, who reside in the U.S. and Europe, in Washington two months ago.

    According to the report, the members requested that news of the meeting not be publicized.

    http://biggovernment.com/taylorking/2011/01/29/did-muslim-brotherhood-learn-day-of-rage-egypt-protest-tactics-from-obama-allies-bill-ayers-and-code-pink/

    One year ago, Big Government reported the anti-American global left, led by Code Pink, traveled to Egypt to undermine the blockade of Hamas-controlled Gaza.

    President Barack Obama funder and Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans, accompanied by Obama’s Hyde Park friends and neighbors – the former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn – organized an inside-outside game of political theater to bring pressure on the Mubarak regime to allow the aid for Hamas to be delivered though Egyptian checkpoints.

    http://bigpeace.com/bbarrack/2011/01/30/underground-uprising-in-egypt/

    We know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports the uprising in Egypt. The Obama administration does as well. Based on the release of a secret document, it’s been learned that the United States government supported the April 6 Youth Movement – a group that played a key role in the uprising – in the form of a summit in Washington, D.C. That summit took place from December 3-5, 2008. We also know that Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn were in Cairo a little more than one year later, engaging in protests while attempting to show solidarity with Hamas by entering Gaza with Egyptian protesters.

  45. JJ,
    I know. Sad how this site has been infiltrated. Miss you. Keep the pantry shelves stocked my friend.

  46. “MUSLIM WHO CALLED FOR ENGAGEMENT WITH MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD TO ADVISE WHITE HOUSE”

    Posted by smoothstone

    Excerpt:

    “I don’t recall President Truman or President Roosevelt hiring a Japanese to work in the White House after the Japs destroyed Pearl Harbor, do you? Nor did any Japanese work in the White House after February 23rd, 1942 when a Japanese submarine bombed the Californian coast.

    No doubt the White House should be renamed Taqiyya House. The betrayal of American traditions, American pride, and American nationalism by Barack Hussein Obama have only just begun. Via JihadWatch:

    Read More Here: http://smoothstoneblog.com/?s=taqiyya

  47. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-s-claim-he-did-not-raise-taxes-rej


    President Obama’s assertion on Sunday that he “didn’t raise taxes once” is “blatantly false,”
    a taxpayer watchdog group says. Obama made the claim in his pre-Super Bowl interview with Fox News host Bill O’Reilly.

  48. It is very troubling that troops under the command of bo are being sent to Egypt. bo will likely use this deployment to further destabilization the government of President Mubarak and hasten a insurrection by his muslim brotherhood.
    ——————————————
    This senior Marine told our source that the Pentagon will deploy “multiple platoons” to Egypt over the next few days and that the official reason will be ‘to assist in the evacuation of US citizens.”

    Our source was told that “the chances they were going over there went from 70% yesterday to 100% today.”

    We’re keeping these people anonymous because both would get in trouble for sharing this information with the press.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/senior-us-marine-says-multiple-platoons-are-headed-to-egypt-2011-2#ixzz1DOuvEsJk

  49. Hannity: Michelle Bachmann says “we can’t shut this pResident down fast enough.”

    ———————–
    Amen!

  50. “ESPIONAGE – BETRAYAL OF GREAT BRITAIN”

    Posted by Erica

    The Betrayal Of Great Britain
    Editorial
    Investor’s Business Daily
    February 8, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “Alliances: When spies give military secrets to a foreign power, it’s espionage. When an American president does it, betraying an ally to befriend a longtime foe, what do we call it?

    According to diplomatic cables obtained by Britain’s Daily Telegraph, mined from the thousands of classified documents released by WikiLeaks, the U.S. government agreed to provide Russia with information on the British nuclear deterrent as part of the deal behind the ratification and signing of the New START treaty.”

    Read The Full Article Here:

    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/02/espionage-betrayal-of-great-britain.html

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  51. Why is the bo regime not speaking out in support of this Peaceful Demonstration in Iran against the muslim DICTATORSHIP?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/world/middleeast/09iran.html?src=twrhp

    Since the Iranian government is painting events in Cairo and elsewhere as the long-awaited regional blossoming of its own Islamic revolution, to deny a permit for such a march would show that their position in support of the Arab movements is fake, Mr. Karoubi, 72, said in a rare interview from Tehran…

    “Any kind of event that involves the rise of the people and the fight against dictatorship in the Muslim world is in our benefit,” said Mr. Karoubi, speaking in Persian from inside the isolation of his home. “Next Monday will be a test for the Green movement—if the government issues a permit, there will be a huge demonstration and it will show how alive the Green movement is.”

  52. Sherman Tank….It wasn’t a Dentist…anyhow, I just came back from going there with my info. He claims anyone born here is a natural born citizen. Of course I told him he is wrong. I explained he has Dual citizenship because his father was never an American Citizen. It was like trying to educate Tingles. Someone please end this Nightmare.

  53. Maybe President Mubarek will spill some beans about Obummer since it looks as though he won’t be getting any aid any time soon. Please Prez. Mubarek, for your side and ours, publish what you know about Obummer, help put the final nail in his coffin.

  54. bo is preparing to take control of all Radio and TV Stations Nationwide. If congress gives bo the kill switch, then we will have no way of getting truthful information.

  55. Margie, thanks for the explanation. Boy! Its hard trying to get through to dumb people isn’t it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still, I say, we should vote with our pocket books. Your doctor doesn’t have a bloddy clue. Furthermore, where’s the birth cert?

  56. kiltie | February 8, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
    Maybe President Mubarek will spill some beans about Obummer since it looks as though he won’t be getting any aid any time soon. Please Prez. Mubarek, for your side and ours, publish what you know about Obummer, help put the final nail in his coffin.

    ——————————————————
    bo has betrayed so many of the Powers that Be both in the United States and throughout the World, it is just a matter of time before the PTBs get revenge.

    Politicians in the US don’t want to attack him because they fear voter backlash, but Foreign Powers don’t have those reservations.

  57. RUMSFELD IS NOT A PATRIOT. He along with Bush, Clinton, Rove, etc., should be prosecuted for war crimes. Here is an excerpt from his own book, in his own words.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/08/donald-rumsfeld-book-misstatements-wmd

    The former US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, admits in his memoirs that he made a mistake in claiming that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction sites round Baghdad and Tikrit, one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq invasion.

    Rumsfeld says now: “I made a misstatement.” What he meant to say is there were ‘suspect sites’.

    Rumsfeld and his kabal have been responsible for more deaths than anyone in the past 30-40 years, including all deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Without his support of WMD being in Iraq, we would not have invaded. I don’t understand how so many people buy into repubs = good, dems = bad.

    Rumsfeld is also responsible for the FDA approval of aspartame and its subsequent addition to thousands of foods. Aspartame is a an excitatory neurotoxin. Aspartame was not originally approved by the FDA for use in food until Rumsfeld took over at the FDA.

  58. “ALLEN WEST URGES US TO DEFINE OUR ISLAMIST ENEMY & THEN SET OUR OBJECTIVES ACCORDINGLY”

    Posted by Erica (Video)
    Monday, February 7, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “Newly elected Republican, Allen West (FL), states plainly in this video that the American people must realize the Islamist enemy we face is not a religion. West says “it is theo-political belief system, a construct”, and that this battle has been going on for 1,388 years. He recommends we study history, and to that end he cites key battles in the war between Muslims and Christians. Below are some links to illustrate Rep. Allen’s remarks.

    Charles Martel and The Battle of Tours, 732 A.D.

    The Byzantine [Christian] Loss at Manzikert in 1071.

    1095: Urban II’s clarion call for Crusaders to retake Christian cities captured by Muslim Turks.

    Fall of Constantinople, 1453.

    Two Battles That Saved the West: Lepanto 1571, and Vienna (on Sept 11th!) 1683.”

    Read More Of This Excellent Article Here:

    http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/02/allen-west-urges-us-to-define-our.html

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    MUST SEE VIDEO!!!!!!

    “SLAY THE IDOLATORS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbaln3Uqfc&feature=player_embedded#

    Col. Allen West answers questions about knowing the Islamic Muslim
    enemy. “Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.”

    The 100% Lawless, Tyrannical, Terrorist Islamic Muslim Political Terrorist Totalitarian Dictatorship One-World-Government regime plans uses OPEN JIHAD TERRORIST ATTACKS OF JIHAD WAR, & STEALTH HIDDEN ATTACKS OF TERRORIST JIHAD WAR INSIDE GOVERNMENTS & NATIONS with the End-Goal TO CONQUER, ATTACK, OVERTHROW, BRUTALLY CRUSH, TORTURE, MASS MURDER, END, & ANNILHILATE ALL Non-Islamic Muslim Sovereign Nations Governments (Especially Israel & The USA Nations), ATTACK, END, CONQUER, & TO OVERTHROW ALL Non-Islamic Muslim Nations Sovereignties; & TO END, CONQUER, & OVERTHROW ALL Non-Islamic Muslim Businesses, Cultures, Education & Schools, Courts Of Law, People, & ALL Religions that are non-Islamic Muslim, & that use non-Sharia Law Courts in Islamic Muslim’s Fanatical Terrorist goals to obtain a Terrorist Islamic Muslim & Sharia Law, Communist/Marxist Socialist One World Government/New World Order Terrorist Totalitarian Dictatorship over ALL Governments, ALL Nations, & ALL People on earth using Open Attacks Of Jihad War, & Stealth (Hidden) Attacks & Tactics of Jihad War Inside A Country To Overthrow & Conquer A Nation’s Government in “Taqiyya.”
    “Taqiyya” = Concealing & Denying In Constant Lies & Deceit That Islam Commands Open Jihad Attacks Of War, & Stealth (Hidden) Jihad Attacks Of War (Espionage) To Take Place & Happenj In A Nation – To Conquer & Overthrow that Government & Nation in Islamic Muslim Jihad War .

    “Taqiyya” = Concealing, Hiding, Denying, & Lying About The True Terrorist Goals of the Terrorist Fanatical Political Totalitarian Dictatorship Government of Islam which are To Overthrow A Nation using Islamic Muslim Open Covert Jihad Attacks Of War, & Stealth (Hidden) Subversive Espionage Attacks Of War Against a Nation, Government & People from the inside that Nation with Islamic Muslim constantly lying about their true agenda, intents, & goals which are to Conquer, Overthrow, & Destroy A Nation in Terrorist Open Jihad Attacks of War & in Stealth – Hidden – Espionage Jihad Attacks Of War from inside a Government & Nation = Taqiyya.

    “Taqiyya” = Islamic Muslim Tactics Of Jihad War. Islamic Muslims Conceal & Deny in Constant Lies & Deceit that the Islamic Muslim’s Terrorist Satanic scriptures of the “Qu’ran” & their Terrorist Sharia Law Commands Islamic Muslims to openly use Open Jihad Attacks Of War, & to use Stealth (Hidden) Jihad Attacks Of War (Espionage) To Be Waged Against A Government, Nation, & People. For Islamic Muslims to Hide, Conceal, & Constantly Lie about the Terrorist Islam’s Political Totalitarian Dictatorship Government’s Agenda & Goals which are To Conquer & Overthrow ALL Governments & Nations & People in Islamic Muslim War.

    “Taqiyya” = Concealing, Denying, Hiding, & Lying About Terrorist Islam’s Agenda & Goals which are To Conquer & Overthrow ALL Governments & Nations & People in Islamic Muslim Jihad War using Islamic Muslim Open Jihad Attacks Of War, & Stealth (Hidden) Espionage Attacks Of War Against a Nation, Government & People from Inside the Nation. Lying about & denying that Islamic Muslims are attacking in Stealth (hidden) espionage Jihad War Inside A Government & Nation to Conquer & Overthrow it.

    Islamic Muslims are taught it is good & holy to constantly lie about their true agenda, intents, & goals which are to Conquer, Overthrow, & Destroy A Nation in Terrorist Open Jihad Attacks of War, & in Stealth – Hidden – Espionage Jihad Attacks Of War from Inside of that Nation & Government = “Taqiyya.”

    “Taqiyya” = The True Terrorist Goals of the Terrorist Fanatical Political Totalitarian Dictaorship Government of Islam which are To Overthrow A Nation using Islamic Muslim Open Jihad Attacks Of War, & Stealth (Hidden) Espionage Attacks Of War Against a Nation, Government & People from Inside The Government & Nation where the Islamic Muslim are Constantly Concealing, Hiding, & Lying about their True Agenda, Intents, & Goals which are to Conquer, Overthrow, & Destroy A Nation in Terrorist Open Jihad Attacks of War & in Stealth – Hidden – Espionage Jihad Attacks Of War = “Taqiyya.”

  59. ALERT ALERT – Fox News with Neil Cavuto covering Government workers in D.C. marching for MORE PAY.

  60. I started blogging about Ayers etc and Egypt on my local paper and lost another hard drive. Third one in the past year and a half. Bastards.

  61. P.S. – TRIAL LAWYERS – 0
    TOYOTA – 100 Billion

  62. Do we have any hope we can get Allen West to run in 2012? A Man of Honor is rare in Politicans. I better go work out, to release some anger, stay safe all, and Thanks for fighting for my Father’s Country. The USA.

  63. Ask Congress WHY DID BHO HAVE AN ISLAMIC SYMBOL ON HIS CAMPAIGN AIRPLANE,WHEN RUNNING FOR PRES.OF THE US ,NOT KENYA????? WHY ARE THEY STILL USING THE SYMBOL?
    SEARCH ISLAMIC SYMBOLS AND UP COMES RISING SUN.
    2 YRS AGO A S EARCH WAS DONE OBAMA SYMBOL,MEANING OF
    RISE OF ISLAM,CONQUERING MOVEMENT,ISLAM ABOVE ALL OTHER FAITHS
    THIS WAS ON PLANE RUNNING TO BE AMERICAN PRESIDENT.SHOWS HOW IGNORANT OUR OFFICIALS AND AMERICA REALLY IS

  64. Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    I started blogging about Ayers etc and Egypt on my local paper and lost another hard drive. Third one in the past year and a half. Bastards.

    ————————————————————
    What happened? Did your cpu get a virus?

  65. “WHAT IS TAQIYYA”

    TAQIYYA (sometimes spelled TAQQIYYA or TAQIYA) IS THE DUTY OF ISLAMIC MUSLIMS TO LIE ABOUT THE BELIEFS, METHODS, OBJECTIVES, END GOALS, & THE TRUE AGENDA OF ISLAM TO NON-MUSLIMS.

    Taqiyya (bad faith, deceit, contempt for the truth, false promises, evasion, deceptive moderation and crocodile tears for terrorist victims) negates any attempt at interfaith dialogue between Islam and other belief systems.

    In Islam it’s ok to lie and deceive Kafirs (infidels) because ISLAM IS IN A PERMANENT STATE OF WAR WITH ALL NON-MUSLIMS AND DECEPTION IS A LEGITIMATE TACTIC OF ISLAMIC JIHAD WAR AGAINST HUMANITY. The word or promise of a Muslim to a Kafir counts for nothing in the eyes of Allah.

    So taqiyya means that the only time you can be sure that an Islamic Muslim
    (Mullah) is telling the truth to you is when he says he’s lying to you.

    From: http://smoothstoneblog.com/?s=What+Is+Taqiyya%3F

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “HEY, WHO’S THE GUY WITH THE SWORD?”

    Excerpt:

    “Folks, study carefully the painting above.

    That is our great Jewish hero, David, about to sever the head of the arrogant Philistine, Goliath, depicted here in a powerful painting by one of my favorite artists, Peter Paul Rubens.

    There are many visual metaphors for a smooth stone. However, I chose this particular painting to represent this blog because the name of this blog is taken literally from the Bible story of David and Goliath, in 1 Samuel 17. You see, all it took was one smooth stone to slay the arrogant Philistine.”

    Read More Here: http://smoothstoneblog.com/hey-whos-the-guy-with-the-sword

  66. Not sure. Had slow key strokes and then crashed. I hope it is still under warranty. I’ll be lurking from my android for a while.

  67. Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm |

    RUMSFELD IS NOT A PATRIOT.

    _____________________________________________

    Donald Rumsfield was a U.S. Naval Air carrier pilot and he swore to this oath –

    THE KNIGHT’S CODE
    HIS HEART KNOWS VIRTUE
    HIS TONGUE SPEAKS ONLY TRUTH
    HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WEAK
    HIS SWORD DEFENDS THE HELPLESS
    HIS WRATH UNDOES THE WICKED
    THIS WAS TH E OATH OF A FIGHTER PILOT.

  68. Free Speech | February 8, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    I started blogging about Ayers etc and Egypt on my local paper and lost another hard drive. Third one in the past year and a half. Bastards.

    ————————————————————
    What happened? Did your cpu get a virus?

    My security system has detected and blocked 333 trojan horses and 6 virus in past 6 months.

    obots send emails to try and infect Patriots’ systems. A common subject line in malalicious emails is “GCongress.”

    I have my system set to block and delete all “GCongress” emails.

  69. LOL:) Mrs. Farud just announced that her husband has kicked his habit and has not smoked in a year! I don’t believe it!!

  70. Ms. Helga, Do you know what a straw man argument is? You just made one. This description is from wikipedia:

    A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position.[1] To “attack a straw man” is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]

  71. “LEON PANETTA, AWOL – WHERE’S OBAMA’S CIA DIRECTOR?”

    By Catscanner150
    Posted on February 8, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “The Obama administrations fingerprints are all over the turmoil in Egypt. Here we have the government of a sovereign nation in which our president and government is trying to overthrow by violence through proxy (Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Hezbollah).

    It’s time to change the CIA from Central Intelligence Agency to the Communists In Action, at least until this administration gets tossed out on its ass.”

    Tom in NC

    Read More Here: http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/leon-panetta-awol/

  72. obots are always making straw man and red herring arguments to divert attention from bo’s crimes.

  73. The Great American Patriot Donald Rumsfeld will be on Hannity tonight.

  74. Now Michelle Bachman is under Federal Mandate to account for EVERY PENNY of her$6million of campaign funds. So if this is to happen then it also needs to APPLY TO MR. BUNG HOLE AS WELL. It is KNOWN fact that he accepted MASSIVE FUNDING from BOTH Mansour,and Auchi. All was electronically forwarded from OFFSHORE points of ORIGIN. The massive contributions were broken down, into $200.00 increments,assigned erroneous names TAKEN FROM CHICAGO TELEPHONE BOOKS,then entered into the SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS FUND,by two of his SLIMEY ISLAMIC BUDDIES from Occidental College who he hired to manage his alleged SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS FUND. If Bachman must account for every penny of her SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS FUND then SO MUST SOETORO. The people whose names appear ahead of each contribution in his FUND should be contacted, put under oath, and then ordered to state if they actually made the contribution or not. If they say they did then each must prove it in a court of law, under the penatties of perjury. Lets get down and dirty with MR BUNG HOLE. Further this was all made available to the DOJ in a formal complaint filed by two young Chicago attorneys. The last I heard of the complaint is that it was never acted upon by the DOJ, and thwere is NO( record of it having ever been filed. If that is the case then how about the signatures of the poople who signed for the original complaint. I am surwe that the signatire did not erase itself on the forms that they would still possess, nor did the date of the signature erase itself. If these attorneys can be located,and are willing to once again file the complaint,it could compell BUNG HOLE to back off of Bachman. Especially if the complaint is given lots of publicity.

  75. Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    Rumsfeld and his kabal have been responsible for more deaths than anyone in the past 30-40 years, including all deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Without his support of WMD being in Iraq, we would not have invaded. I don’t understand how so many people buy into repubs = good, dems = bad.
    *******************************************
    You and others are certainly entitled to your opinions about Rumsfeld, but you are not entitled to incorrect statements about his being “responsible for more deaths than anyone in the past 30-40 years, including all deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan”. Let’s look at some figures:

    A very high-range figure for all deaths in Iraq during the three decades from Saddam Hussein to George Bush is 900,000, of which 500,000 occurred during Saddam’s reign 1980-1988. Another 100,000 died during the 1990 Kuwait occupation , and it is estimated that 200,000 disappeared under the Iraqi secret police. It is estimated that 100,000 died under the efforts to rid Iraq of Saddam. Afghanistan total casualties, civilian and military for this past decade would be covered liberally by 40,000, or so.

    The above figures are indeed shocking, because human life is precious, but this has been the history of this evil world.

    Now, to put the above into perspective. The Rwandan massacre resulted in 800,000 to 850,000 deaths in 1994 in just three months. Darfur, in this 21st century deaths are estimated at 400,000, through purges.

    Let’s go back to the Clinton years – 200,000 are estimated to have been killed by the Serbs in purging Bosnia. Back into the 1970’s, Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge massacred 1.2 million to 1.7 million in less than four years.
    I have not included the killings that took place during the close of the Viet Nam war.

    Therefore, a review of the above will clearly show how patently false and unfair it is to saddle Rumsfeld with “more deaths than anyone in the past 30-40 years.” This type of thinking just reflects how deep-seated Bush Derangement Syndrome actually is.

  76. ……………..because Bachman has probably done nothing. But if she did it probably was NOTHING MORE than what Soetoro himself had ALREADY done. But in the final analysis WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS ALSO GOOD FOR THE GANDER. BRING IT ON …….BUTT HOLES! LETS LOOK AT …….ALL OF IT! CAN YOU STAND THE LIGHT OF DAY? I AM BETTING THAT BACHMAN CAN.

  77. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41650

    So why isn’t Obama working to limit the Brotherhood’s scope and influence? Maybe because he doesn’t really have a problem with the Brotherhood, despite its hostility to America. He made sure to invite Brotherhood leaders to attend his notorious speech to the Islamic world in Cairo, Egypt, in June 4, 2009. Starting in the earliest days of his administration, he showed an intense desire to establish friendly ties with Brotherhood-linked organizations—despite the Brotherhood’s stated goal of “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.”

  78. I was not including the Pol Pot reign of terror in this statement. The Rwandan massacre was under Bill Clinton’s term and I included him in the statement about Rumsfeld and Bush being war criminals. Clinton did NOTHING to stop the Rwandan civil war. The ethnic cleansing in Bosnia also occurred under Clinton, where every bridge over the Danube river was destroyed by American jets painted over with NATO insignia.

    The following article documents the possibility that up to 511,000 Iraqi’s have died between the period of 2003 and 2006. This includes the breakdown of the healthcare delivery system in Iraq from the destruction of the infrastructure as well as many undocumented deaths, both direct and indirectly, due to the war. A quote by Tommy Franks during this time was incredibly flippant about the war-related deaths in Iraq, “We don’t do body counts.” http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew01092006.html

    If you ask Wikipedia how many Iraqi’s have died in the war, the answer is between 100,000 and 1.5 million (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Iraqis_have_died_in_the_Iraq_War).

    If you look at USA casualties, 4436 killed in Iraq, 1472 killed in Afghanistan. Neither of these numbers include contractors and ancillary personnel. What about > 100,000 USA vets wounded d/t Illegal Iraq war (congress never declared war). 320,000 vets with serious brain injuries, not including concussions, 18 vet suicides per day. http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

    I don’t believe that the USA should get involved in wars unless we are directly attacked or our assistance is requested (and not by false flag operations which got us into several wars in the past 60 years). Involvement in civil wars has never gone well for the USA, including Vietnam and Korea.

    Now, if you want to explore the aspartame issue, go to this site and see the evidence. I can also find you tens if not hundreds of professional peer reviewed journal articles documenting the toxicity of aspartame.

    If quoting facts and historical figures documenting the carnage left behind by the Bush’s and Clinton administrations is Bush Derangement Syndrome, then I proudly have it! I don’t mind standing among a small circle of people willing to give due diligence to subverted American foreign policy aimed at sustaining and growing the military-industrial complex. I stand on the side of God and goodness, not evil, death, destruction, and hypocrisy. Bush may have done some good things during his presidency, but this does not redeem him from the evil he participated in.

  79. Cabby – AZ | February 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm |

    Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm |

    ==================================

    Ah, yes, the DOWNSIDE or Freedom Of Speech. Anybody can say anything they want. The Internet is aswarm with such stuff. And then it gets repeated. And magnified. And amplified. And twisted. Just like “gossip” but on steroids.

    Don’t believe ANYTHING you read on the Internet. EVERYTHING must be checked out from multiple sources and analyzed and weighed.

    The MSM has a different problem. They do tend to check and doublecheck sources, but THEIR biggest problem is masquerading OpEd as News and in failure to cover certain items.

    How are We The People supposed to be fully informed? How can We The People reliably vote? How can We The People be even remotely “sovereign” under such circumstances?

  80. Free Speech | February 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm |

    Free Speech | February 8, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    I started blogging about Ayers etc and Egypt on my local paper and lost another hard drive. Third one in the past year and a half. Bastards.

    ————————————————————
    What happened? Did your cpu get a virus?

    My security system has detected and blocked 333 trojan horses and 6 virus in past 6 months.

    obots send emails to try and infect Patriots’ systems. A common subject line in malalicious emails is “GCongress.”

    I have my system set to block and delete all “GCongress” emails.
    ****************************
    FS, Just an FYI great site will help you clean all the nasties.
    Do it yourself or ask for help in the forum, never a charge and I’ve found them to be most thorough, accurate and professional.

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  81. Here is the site to visit and learn about the health effects of aspartame.

    http://www.aspartamekills.com/

  82. Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm |

    Not sure. Had slow key strokes and then crashed. I hope it is still under warranty. I’ll be lurking from my android for a while.
    ************
    Oops Paxon this was meant for you:

    Just an FYI great site will help you clean all the nasties.
    Do it yourself or ask for help in the forum, never a charge and I’ve found them to be most thorough, accurate and professional.

    http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/2852-malware-and-spyware-cleaning-guide/

  83. DABIG | February 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Free Speech | February 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
    Free Speech | February 8, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    I started blogging about Ayers etc and Egypt on my local paper and lost another hard drive. Third one in the past year and a half. Bastards.

    ————————————————————
    What happened? Did your cpu get a virus?

    My security system has detected and blocked 333 trojan horses and 6 virus in past 6 months.

    obots send emails to try and infect Patriots’ systems. A common subject line in malalicious emails is “GCongress.”

    I have my system set to block and delete all “GCongress” emails.
    ****************************
    FS, Just an FYI great site will help you clean all the nasties.
    Do it yourself or ask for help in the forum, never a charge and I’ve found them to be most thorough, accurate and professional.

    http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/2852-malware-and-spyware-cleaning-guide/

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  84. >>>Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm | RUMSFELD IS NOT A PATRIOT. He along with Bush, Clinton, Rove, etc., should be prosecuted for war crimes. Rumsfeld and his kabal have been responsible for more deaths than anyone in the past 30-40 years, including all deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Without his support of WMD being in Iraq, we would not have invaded. I don’t understand how so many people buy into repubs = good, dems = bad.<<<

    Crystal,
    I will attempt to keep this brief. WMD's were in Iraq. Please, take the time to educate yourself as to the FACTS, not the Liberal medias propaganda. See Wikileaks and WMD's and IRAQ. Yep, they were there all the way down to the VX nerve gas and the labs. The FACT that WMD's were found in IRAQ is NOW NOT DISPUTED. Here is the QUESTIONS you need to be asking.

    Why did John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barrack Obama, all Senators state PUBLICALLY that there were NO WMD's in IRAQ when THEY KNEW that they had been found in quantity? Why did the Bush Administration NOT ADVERTISE that they had been found?

    You want me to believe in the Rumsfeld is no patriot, then find an intelligent answer for those two questions and post them here. I already have an answer from someone whom was there and helped dispose of the VX nerve gas, and Mustard gas in LIVE SHELLS.

    Pete

  85. Pete – You need to document the presence of WMDs in Iraq. It is well accepted today that they were not there, other than what would be considered normal weapon development for any country. Rumsfeld has admitted he misspoke regarding WMDs in Iraq (see above link). The presence of WMDs in a sovereign country is considered normal. Name me an industrialized country that has not developed WMDs. Do you understand the concept of mutually assured destruction? This means that if I have a bad weapon, my enemy may think twice before attacking me bc my enemy knows I can retaliate. This is the general concept of war and peace throughout the civilization of mankind. When did Iraq attack the USA???

    Before I answer your questions, maybe you should answer them. Why did most of our elected officials deny the existence of WMDs in Iraq? Good question, go ahead and take a gander at it.

    If you want to use Wikipedia to answer your question, here is an excerpt:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    After the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[1] In response to diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[2] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give “immediate, unconditional and active cooperation” with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[3]
    During the lead-up to war in March 2003, Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting “proactive” but not always the “immediate” Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[4] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441 but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[5][6][7] Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[8] President Bush asserted peaceful measures couldn’t disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[9] despite multiple dissenting opinions[10] and questions of integrity[11][12][13] about the underlying intelligence.[14] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[15] President Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was “the intelligence failure” in Iraq,[16] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration “misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq”.[17]

    I can show you all kinds of WMDs in the local science lab where I did my Ph.D. research. We had cholera toxin, a number of nerve gases and “unknown” toxic substances given to us for testing by DARPA, and too many others to mention here. They are all deadly. We have many labs in the USA that do research with nerve gases. Does this mean we are on the verge of starting WWIII? The presence of WMD does not justify invasion of a country. If it does, why don’t we invade Iran, N. Korea, Pakistan, etc?

  86. This article explains why Obama is not a natural born Citizen, and why he is not qualified to be POTUS. Very easy to see the logic of the framers, and their intent when writing the Constitution.

    Who is a Citizen-at-Birth, or a Natural Born Citizen?
    January 7, 2011 by paralegalnm

    “The state of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there,” the speaker [John Boehner] responded. “That’s good enough for me.“ http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027684-503544.html

    I submit that Speaker John Boehner neglected his due diligence.

    Who is a Citizen-At-Birth?

    Who is a Natural Born Citizen?

    natural-ize — def. to remove alienage by statutory provision or oath.

    natural born citizen – a child born without alienage, e.g., not dealienaged by statutory provision.

    These two questions must be asked by the 112th Congress for two reasons:

    1) Illegal immigration and the ‘border,’ ‘anchor,’ or ‘jackpot’ baby is creating citizens at birth bankrupting hospitals, communities, and diluting state sovereignty.[1]

    2) By claiming Hawaiian birth, Barack Hussein Obama assumed constitutional eligibility to be President of the United States. However, reading Article II, Sec. 5 of the U.S. Constitution in context of the intent of the framers would deny the son of a British subject natural born citizen eligibility (unless born prior to the “the time of adoption of this constitution.”).

    When Attorney Phillip Berg filed his 2008 lawsuit against Barack Hussein Obama, I was intrigued. However, after two weeks of personal research in my spare time, I had to conclude that Barack Obama was, indeed, a U.S. citizen, but only by statutory provisions.[2]

    The next question was if he was a natural born citizen as required by Article II, Sec 5.

    The answer was, clearly, No. Obama inherited British and Kenyan nationality at birth through an alien, non-immigrant father.

    na-tur-al-ize – def. dealienage by statutory provision at birth or oath.

    natural born citizen – def. a child born without alienage, i.e., not requiring ‘dealienage by statutory provision.’

    By the time you finish reading this memo, you will wonder how Speaker John Boehner, most of congress,* the media, and many legal scholars got the intent of the framers and the first legislators so wrong.

    They lacked curiosity and due diligence, which I hope I can provide you in this memo, and the memos linked within.

    *See Appendix A for letters from Congressmen Burgess and McCotter.

    The framers created the term of art ‘natural born citizen’ based on Vattel’s ‘Law of Nations.’

    § 212. Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens,* are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

    * English translation from the original French

    Conversely, a society will dilute itself and cease to exist if it allows itself to be populated by children of aliens . . . . . This is why La Raza and the Mexican government so strongly support birthright citizenship; it fulfills their political agenda.

    Minor vs Happersette, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) was, at least, honest in its appraisal of ‘natural born citizen’ being unquestionably the child of U.S. citizen parents, and only possibly relying on native-birth alone.

    http://paralegalnm.wordpress.com/

  87. >>>>Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 9:06 pm |

    Pete – You need to document the presence of WMDs in Iraq. It is well accepted today that they were not there,<<<<

    You obviously didn't bother to go look up your statements. Wikileaks BURIED the claim you made in your first line, with the release of classified data from Iraq–do a search online. Further, you never bothered to ask anyone who was there, just like the media. You didn't answer my questions (and there were only two), or even attempt to do research into the issue. That means you don't care about the truth, aka liberal derangement syndrome. BTW, please show me your PhD project that put VX nerve gas in an operable long range artillery shell (say 40-60 miles range). Since you are a PhD do you know what VX is, and what it is capable of? Finally, as far as reason to invade a country, after 911. I would say any credible evidence of ongoing military hostile activity (actively attempting to shot down US aircraft on UN patrol), terrorist funding (hamas and hezbolla), previous terrorist attacks on US interests (phillipines embassy (not disputed) and likely Oklahoma City bombing planning–read the third terrorist), failing UN resolutions, and CREDIBLE statements by heads of State (KGB, CIA, MI-6 and Putin) of planned attacks on US soil, al queda training camps in Iraq (please don't insult the people that lost friends taking down these camps) would be adequate for competent leadership. Perhaps you wanted incompetent leadership…….oh I forgot…..got that now. Keep listening to the media and the democrats……they wouldn't lie…..oh wait….I forgot about the Gulf of Tonkin and LBJ!!! Well, maybe they would, perhaps you should internet search that as well.
    Pete

  88. The Alex Jones Show LIVE – February 8th 2011 – Part 3 of 13

  89. Jones is warning that Tyranny is at our doors…. listen to pt 4 today….

    The Alex Jones Show LIVE – February 8th 2011 – Part 4 of 13

  90. Hey Pete, I don’t want to argue with you or anyone else for that matter. I just want people to do their own research, to learn as much as possible about topics that interest them, and to use dispassionate logic to come to conclusions. I voted for Bush twice. I have since come to the conclusion that voting is pointless (unless there are local elections with temperance related issues on the ballot). I don’t expect anyone here to agree with this, but maybe with time, more people will come to this realization. Politicians hedge their bets on both sides of the aisle. We’ll see how the newest Tea Party officials work out, hopefully better than Scott Brown from Mass.

    You did not give a link to the Wikileaks (not related to the Wikipedia document with references that I linked to) documents you are referencing so I am unable to offer an opinion. From my reading, most of the nerve gas found in Iraq was degraded and pre 1990-1991 Gulf war. I’m sure our soldiers found these stores and disarmed them in the second gulf war. I too have friends in the military (SEALs and Air Force) who can corroborate what you say, however, the finding of nerve gas in Iraq does not mean they were going to use it. I know nothing about missile delivery of nerve gas, I only know what happens to networked nerve cells when they are exposed to both toxic and trophic compounds in various disease models. So let’s just agree to disagree about the pretense of WMDs in Iraq to justify the invasion of Iraq. I would prefer to focus my efforts on those who come back from Iraq with brain damage from blasts and other types of injuries, uncontrolled seizures, and chronic pain syndromes, all brought to the vets and their families by the wonderful decisions of our past presidents and their administrations.

  91. http://bigpeace.com/taylorking/2011/02/04/code-pink-obama-hamas-muslim-brotherhood-ally-raising-tax-exempt-money-to-overthrow-egypt-govta/

    As we reported previously, Code Pink has been on the ground in Cairo since the beginning of the uprising. The group has made nine trips to Egypt in the past two years as part of a campaign to undermine the Egyptian government and the blockade against Hamas-controlled Gaza.

    The headline for the appeal published at the Web site of Code Pink’s fundraising partner Democracy in Action reads:

    “Help us raise $5,000 in emergency funds today to support the Egyptian revolution!”

    Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin posted on Twitter from Egypt at 3:19 a.m. Cairo time on Friday that more than $10,000 had already been raised.

    Code Pink says it is a 501-c3 tax exempt organization and posts the tax ID number 95-4658841 on the fundraising appeal. Code Pink says on the appeal, “any donation you make over the $5 is a tax-deductible contribution to CODEPINK.”

    Being that 501-c3 organizations are prohibited from raising or spending money for candidates or partisan political activity, how can it be lawful to raise and spend tax exempt funds to overthrow a government? Again, Code Pink states upfront the money is to “support the Egyptian revolution!”

    Code Pink has a history of working with and giving humanitarian aid to terrorist groups like Hamas. It passes itself off as non-violent but supports those who engage in violence against America and her allies–especially Israel. Code Pink knows that humanitarian aid relieves pressure on groups to provide the basics to combatants and their families so that the tools of revolution can be bought and morale maintained.

  92. i asked a friend today hows work? he replied great the miltary contracts keep us real busy. i said i guess war pays , then i mentioned we were successful in iraq, terrorist,afganiststan, introducing homeland security,patriot act,tsa scanners.the list is endless. how did this all begin? he said right after 911. bingo!!! all happend by pure luck. no way. we have been had. go to teamlaw for education of lifetime in 2 hours

  93. FS. Didn’t the Patriot Act cover that sort of activity under anti-terrorism money laundering laws? Overthrowing a friendly government could /should cover that. Too bad that DHS is more concerned about my 80 year old Mom who holds a sign protesting abortion once a year than they do about real terrorists.

  94. The trouble with trying to find justification for going into Baghdad is all due to the weakening of our original mighty campaign in the first Gulf war. Bush 1 stopped short of completion when he should have gone on to Baghdad. That was followed by not responding with any force to Saddam’s flaunting the rules like the no fly zone, etc. Good grief, Saddam was a one man (accompanied by his sons) slaughter house. He used weapons to slaughter the Kurds and his own in a massive way. Why people can’t justify that stuff as WMD only shows a kind of silly semantics sophomoric excuse. Commiting those crimes and demonstrating a willingness to invade his neighbors was evidence enough of the regional danger he posed. And that region was important to our security. Since we didn’t follow through on the original campaign we’re left with all this toing and froing today.

  95. Oh yeah I forgot. The terrorists are their base and constituents.

  96. Paxson | February 8, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    FS. Didn’t the Patriot Act cover that sort of activity under anti-terrorism money laundering laws? Overthrowing a friendly government could /should cover that. Too bad that DHS is more concerned about my 80 year old Mom who holds a sign protesting abortion once a year than they do about real terrorists.

    —————————————————–
    bo is the #1 Terrorist.

  97. Observer | February 8, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    The trouble with trying to find justification for going into Baghdad is all due to the weakening of our original mighty campaign in the first Gulf war. Bush 1 stopped short of completion when he should have gone on to Baghdad. That was followed by not responding with any force to Saddam’s flaunting the rules like the no fly zone, etc. Good grief, Saddam was a one man (accompanied by his sons) slaughter house. He used weapons to slaughter the Kurds and his own in a massive way. Why people can’t justify that stuff as WMD only shows a kind of silly semantics sophomoric excuse. Commiting those crimes and demonstrating a willingness to invade his neighbors was evidence enough of the regional danger he posed. And that region was important to our security. Since we didn’t follow through on the original campaign we’re left with all this toing and froing today.

    ————————————————
    colin powell is to blame for stopping short of Baghdad the first time. We are going to have to have a permanent presence in Iraq. It is of vital interest because of the oil supply. We need to be supporting our Allies and not attempting to overthrow their governments.

  98. OT, but what’s going on? All ambassadors are called back to Washington . . . at the same time.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/399/615/All_Ambassadors_Called_Back_to_Washington.html

  99. Crystal…………………….
    Interesting stuff exchanged between you and Pete. Read every line of it all. Real learning experience to say the least. However I am left with only one question which I am sure that you can answer for me given your SUPERIOR education. I am wondering exactly what you call the agent that was used by Saddam on the Kurds. Was this a WMD or is this just my imagination? Just wondering.

  100. Old Salt. There were no less than 16 UN resolutions asking that butcher to comply with the treaty after the first Gulf War. He was a threat to the region and was becoming cozy with Al Quida. Hindsight is 20/20, but you can’t talk sense with revisionists. We all watched the many year build up that included the Clinton presidency. After 9/11 why take any chances. Could things have been handled differently? Maybe. But Rumsfeld and Bush are no war criminals.

  101. Paxson………………..
    I can’t help get the feeling that you think that I am somehow condemning Bush and his cabinet,when I only asked Crystal for a clarification of what he/she thinks is a WMD. I already know the answer,I am just trying to see what Crystal says. Perhaps I am misreading your comment as well. The last people who I would ever call traitors are Bush senior or his son. Bush senior flew both Dauntless and Avenger Navy bombers in WW2, and was subsequently shot down by the Japs. He is one of the very few who lived to tell about it. I am sure that had the Japs had their way he too would be only history. G W Bush was involved with the Texas Air Guard. To what extent I don’t really know. However I do know that several SLIMEY LITTLE DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS tried to PHONEY UP SOME DOCUMENTS, pertinent to Bush’s unit,and they GOT CAUGHT at it. Just some more LIBERAL A$$HOLES. They were so damn dumb they forgot to use a typwriter of the same period. Complete MORONS.

  102. “Left scared of ‘birth certificate’ issue”

    Joe Farah:

    “Why is the political left so scared of the “birth certificate” issue, while many on the right dismiss it?”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=261329

  103. Old Salt – what do you call agent orange? and the fact that we sprayed it for 9 years all over Vietnam.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

    I never once said I supported Saddam Hussein. He was a tyrant, criminal, evil man. However, this country was OK with him for many years, essentially condoning his actions with the Kurds. What do you think of Hosni Mobarack and his tyrannical and evil ways, his complete disregard for human life, the rule of law, and complicity with the US. We enriched him by billions of dollars!!! When will Americans wake up and see that our military, for all the good that it has done in say WWII, it has largely since that era been used by political parties to enrich and accumulate power and wealth among the ELITES. Our young men are fodder for their grand schemes, and they have convinced us to call killing other human beings in the name of oil security or whatever the cause du jour is, to keep feeding their hunger for power and domination. Why do you think only 10-12% of those in direct combat actually aim their guns to kill? Think deeply about this.

  104. So Old Salt, it’s ok when WE use a weapon of mass destruction to kill innocents, but when Saddam does it, we are ok with it until we decide almost 15 years later and need justification to invade Iraq for oil. What do you think of Turkey taking out the Kurds little by little for decades?

  105. Old Salt, how about some napalm with your modest breakfast of rice patties?

    I couldn’t even finish watching this video. War is a sickness. Don’t you understand all human life is valuable. No race or ethnicity is any less valuable than another in God’s eyes. God/Heaven cannot come soon enough. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

  106. I was against the 2nd invasion of Iraq right up until the invasion began and then I changed my mind. Why? First of all I had believed the lying MSM and this had clouded my judgment on the subject. Second, I saw the way in which so many ordinary Iraqis welcomed the soldiers. They saw them as liberators from a real tyrant.
    The issue of the existence of WMDs seems to be the focus of those who claim that Rumsfeld and GWB are alleged war criminals. People who think in that way simply refuse to look at all of the facts, and oil was not one of the issues since the USA and Canada have sufficient oil reserves that they do not need to be dependent on oil in the Middle East (if only they would get off their butts and drill for that oil!!).

    The WMDs existed in Iraq. Saddam used mustard gas and probably Sarin on the Kurds which he sprayed from the air. Thousands died from that particular activity. I can remember seeing some of the pictures of the Kurds that had been killed. It was not pretty. The UN had repeated resolutions insisting that Saddam was to destroy his WMDs and that inspectors be allowed to make sure that the weapons had been destroyed. Saddam Hussein played footies over the matter.
    John Doe #3, the one that got away in Oklahoma was an Iraqi who was a former bodyguard to Saddam Hussein. We cannot be certain to what extent that Saddam Hussein had sponsored world wide terrorism. He was involved with Muslim Brotherhood, and when he seized control in Iraq he killed the members of the Legislative Assembly. Saddam Hussein was always a bad egg.
    With regard to deaths in Iraq during the invasion: the deaths caused by war activity were minimal. Some of the reports such as the one published in Lancet were a gross exaggeration of the numbers that had died as a result of the “war”. The majority of deaths have been Muslim killing Muslim. (Sunni vs Shia). There have been large numbers killed due to car bombs set off in market places and near mosques, etc. etc.
    The “war” itself ended years ago, not all that long after the invasion took place. The balance of the time has been spent fighting insurgents who have been Al Qaeda trained. The soldiers have been training the Iraqi forces and they have assisted in Ambon Province to get rid of the Al Qaeda insurgents. The actual work of securing Iraq is almost complete.
    The one issue that remains in Iraq is Shia vs. Sunni. The Sunni are a minority that had been propped up by Saddam Hussein. The Shia are propped up by Iran. I can understand why the CIA took a chance with Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war. It has to do with Iran and the desire of the Grand PoohBah for outright world dominance.

    Wikpedia is not a reliable source of information. There is absolutely no quality control over the information that is entered. Quite recently I have seen some very big errors on Wikpedia. It is not a reliable resource. On the other hand Wikileaks did get hold of original documents that proved the WMDs were found. The find was covered up… and this is consistent with information that I had seen about finds in Iraq that were denied by the LSM.

    In other words, the action was justified. The majority of the deaths have been caused by Muslims killing Muslims and Christians, and very few were the result of military action. Wikpedia has exaggerated the information.

  107. Old Salt. I was agreeing with you.

  108. Crystal | February 9, 2011 at 2:25 am |
    So Old Salt, it’s ok when WE use a weapon of mass destruction to kill innocents, but when Saddam does it, we are ok with it until we decide almost 15 years later and need justification to invade Iraq for oil.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    We’re all assuming then, by your own strong ideals to be followed by others in power, that you do not drive a car or heat your home or use most items available today out of those strong personal convictions?

  109. Crystal…………………
    Agent Orange = a toxic DEFOLIANT. Again what was the agent used by Saddam on the KURDS, or does answering this conlict with your phd., and imaginary SUPERIOR status to everyone else.

  110. Crystal……………….If you want to see just how important you really are just stick your finger in a glass of water then notice the hole in the water after you remove your finger.

  111. Re: Crystal | February 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm |

    Here is the site to visit and learn about the health effects of aspartame.

    http://www.aspartamekills.com/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Crystal, thank you very much for posting this!

  112. Can anyone name the last time that the US used a weapon of mass destruction was? I know the answer let us see if you do?

  113. Old Salt – I did not mean to personally attack you when I posted about agent orange and napalm use by the US Military in Vietnam. I apologize if you felt personally singled out. This is the last post on this topic on this thread I will make. This is information about agent orange and its toxicity.

    This is the webpage where the following information regarding agent orange was obtained. There are many other websites that support the findings of this report.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4490

    Here are some excerpts:

    Ten years are necessary to spray 84,000,000 litres of defoliants.

    COMPOSITIONS. Among those defoliants, there is Agent blue, holding cyanide particularly efficient to poison the rice fields, Agent green, Agent white, Agent purple, Agent pink, according to species to be destroyed, then Agent orange, so called because of coloured strips on the barrels containing the poison. Agent orange represents by only one 62% of the sprayed defoliants’ mass in Vietnam.

    Agent orange contains the Tetrachlorodibenzo-para-dioxin, or TCDD 2,3,7.8 on account of its molecular composition. The dioxins are made of 2 benzene nuclei, 2 chlorine, fluorine or bromine molecules (4 for the most toxic variety). The TCDD dioxin is the strongest known poison – one million times more toxic than the most harmful natural poison – and besides the most lasting one.

    EQUIVALENCES. If an equivalence is not at all scientific – since it bases on a data to make a comparative projection. – it has sometimes worth to impress our mind perceiving the extent of disaster. …A 2002 study of University of Colombia of New York reveals that 80 grams of dioxin poured in a town’s water supply would kill 8,000,000 inhabitants. On that base, 40 billions times the lethal potential for one human being would have been sprayed over Vietnam.

    STABILITY. The TCDD dioxin is measured in picogram, that is to say in millionth of millionth of gram. It has a great stability. In Vietnam, it is in soil, water, mud, sediments and so passes in the food chain.

    FOOD CHAIN. In the food chain dioxin is found in large quantities in animal fat tissues, meat, milk, eggs and fish. The scientists created a unit named TEQ – Toxic Equivalent Quantity – so as to determine a toxicity limit for food consumption. In France for instance the accepted dose is from 1 to 4 picograms per day per kilo of body weight. In USA the accepted dose is more drastic, it is 0,0064 picogram, that is to say 160 times less than the lowest French standard. In Vietnam that dose can reach 900 picograms per kilo of body weight per day for one person.

    ENTERING IN CELLS. The cell’s nucleus is protected by a “defence perimeter” which has the part to prevent the molecules not having required structure to enter the nucleus and therefore to interfere with the genetic heritage. But, within cellular cytoplasm (i.e. the whole of cell’s elements except the nucleus) dioxin blends with a component, naturally present in every cell, the aryl-hydrocarbon receptor and is able to enter the cellular nucleus’ defences, “passing oneself off “ as a hormone. It is that complex dioxin-receptor which will mix-up the hormonal messages of our endocrinal system (the whole of glands with internal secretion, throwing in blood the produced materials called hormones) and will activate some parts of DNA, areas so-called “dioxin sensitive” and therefore involve toxic effect.

    UNSEEN CONSEQUENCES. The Vietnamese people observe the ancestors’ worship in a fervent way. They wish an offspring able carrying on that cult. If that is not the case a large guilt appears towards ancestors. We understand why families who had one, two, three children suffering from serious handicaps conceived a fourth, a fifth and a sixth ones and more sometimes … One say that a large number of births are not listed, the children are “hidden”. It is necessary to understand the parents’ dreadful mental torture, who see their child being born with two heads or with two faces on the same head or without arms nor legs, when it’s not with external organs.

    And when TCDD dioxin does not succeed passing through the mother-to-be placenta and child was born healthy, the mother, who breastfeeds him, poisons him because the maternal milk is a major elimination way for dioxin. Again, let us think the psychological devastation of mothers.

    DISEASES. Even people who look to be in good health suffer often from:
    – Dermatosis (chloracne, skin disease characterized by comedos, cysts and papules; hyper-keratosis, hyper-pigmentation).
    – Hepatic disorders
    – Cardiovascular disorders
    – Suffering of uro-genital system
    – Nerve disorders (Loss of libido, migraines, peripheral neuropathies, suffering of sensorial faculties
    – Psychiatric disorders (nervousness, insomnia, depersonalization, depression, suicide)

    COMPENSATIONS, SCIENTIFIC PROOFS. The “Stellman report”, which is the undisputed referring study about defoliants in Vietnam, values until 4,800,000 potential or silent sprayed victims. Attention, this number does not take in account victims later poisoned by food chain during more than 40 years, nor the offspring of the next three generations until today. The past and present victims are millions.

    MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES. As for the poison makers, they supplied the American Army for their maximum benefit, with full knowledge of the composition of its product and its destination – since June 1965, i.e. at the beginning of Agent orange spraying, an alarm on the very special toxicity of TCDD is expressed by a research in biochemistry laboratory, actually by one of the major suppliers – Among those 37 companies which made poison, the headmasters are Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Uniroyal, Diamond, Thompson, Hercules and others.

    JUSTICE. On the 10th of March 2005, a judge, that one who defended the American veterans, themselves Agent orange victims and obtained “compensation” for them, rejects the complaint of Vietnamese victims! That judge says there is nothing in the texts of International Law which may forbid the use of herbicides. Except the fact that defoliants did not exist when some texts of International Law, in force at that time, signed by the United States of America, were written. The real question is not to know if Agent orange sprayed over Vietnam is a poison or a defoliant , the real question is to know if that defoliant contains poison? “YES” answer the universally unanimous scientist community. A dreadfully teratogenic poison.

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  115. Prairie | February 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm | JJ,
    I know. Sad how this site has been infiltrated. Miss you. Keep the pantry shelves stocked my friend.

    I even have a military tent stove –burns coal or wood…
    water, Berkey…check
    food, check
    lamps/lanterns/oil, check
    Coleman cook stove/fuel, check
    alternative heat, check
    ammo/guns…who, me???
    !!!!!!!!!!

    Crystal…add me to the Bush Derangement Syndrome club.
    Rummy and Bush are guilty of war crimes…as well as 9/11. …isn’t that what the world knows??
    Ask the residents of Switzerland why they vow to assassinate Bush if he shows in their country—the murderer canceled his visit because they will either kill him or arrest him and then kill him…Rumsfeld is also guilty of crimes against humanity with the aspartame trick…no more gum, sodas, and every item I use now, I must read the ingredients; be careful, the new aspartame is Neotame.

    Neotame – The New Version of Aspartame

    A number of beverages have recently been introduced in Australia and New Zealand where neotame received its first approval in August 2001. … Just Another Chemical Cocktail: As with aspartame, neotame is also a flavor enhancer. Glenn Corliss, senior food scientist for The NutraSweet Company, stated, “Studies have shown…
    http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0305/neotame-the-new-versi...

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