Adobe expert questions Obama birth certificate, WhiteHouse.gov image OCR, Merged from several originals?

Adobe expert questions Obama birth certificate, WhiteHouse.gov image OCR, Merged from several originals?

“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for
years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed
a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original
copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells

“As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any partiucular number of the Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in it’s stead. This process of continuation alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound tracks, cartoons, photographs–to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to be correct; nor was any item of news, or expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to be on record.”…George Orwell, “1984″

Obama has still not released a certified copy of an original birth certificate. All we have seen lately is a computer generated image placed on WhiteHouse.gov.

From Citizen Wells April 28, 2011.

“The information presented below does not address whether or not the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov yesterday came from the State of Hawaii or not. I am not a document analysis specialist and the issue is not critical to evaluate the credibility of the document, Obama and the persons responsible for placing the document on WhiteHouse.gov. Those in the media and elsewhere accepting this document as a certified copy of a birth certificate to authenticate Obama’s birth in Hawaii have not done their due diligence and once again reveal the sad state of “news” in this country. The information below has a basis in fact and documentation and will no doubt befuddle many.”
“Loretta J. Fuddy, Director of Health, states that she is making an exception to departmental policy to accomodate Obama. Is that due to the third party, Ms. Corley acting as a go between? Ms. Fuddy then confirms that the copies will be computer generated.”

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From Citizen Wells April 30, 2011.

“When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was
computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original
birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a
database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the
source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and
maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if
authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a
US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.”

“Jana Winter of Fox news presented this article on April 29, 2011.

“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”

“The White House has released President Obama’s long-form birth
certificate, saying the document is “proof positive” the president was
born in Hawaii.

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim
the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on
Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its
authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.”

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Fox News misrepresented the comments made by the OCR expert regarding the image released on WhiteHouse.gov.

From World Net Daily June 21, 2011.

“Fox News expert denies he claimed birth certificate legit
Angry at network for refusing to retract its story on Obama document”

“The computer graphics expert Fox News relied upon to claim the birth certificate the White House released April 27 was legitimate insists that the network must retract the story, claiming it deliberately misquoted him and continues to ignore his repeated requests.

Jean Claude Tremblay told WND that that none of his comments would permit the conclusion that the Obama birth certificate is an authentic document.

“I no longer trust Fox News,” he said, expressing anger verging on disdain for the way he feels the network treated him. “Despite my protests, Fox News will not allow me to correct their story.”

Read more:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=314041

From World Net Daily June 24, 2011.

“Adobe engineer doubts Obama birth certificate
Concludes ‘something digital came between the paper and the glass'”

“Gary Poyssick, an early employee of software giant Adobe System Inc.,
continues to maintain there is something “fishy” about the Obama
long-form birth certificate released by the White House.

“What the White House released is not a simple scan,” Poyssick told
WND. “Something digital came between the paper and the glass.””

“His initial reaction was to declare the birth certificate an outright forgery.

“I could have done a much better replica myself, if the president had
asked,” Poyssick told The Political Sandbox blog when the birth
certificate first appeared and he opened the document in Adobe
Illustrator. “The guy that did this is a bimbo in that he forgot to
‘flatten’ his works to soften the background edges so the fake letters
blended, softly into the green paper.

Observing that the birth certificate document had multiple layers when
opened in Adobe Illustrator, Poyssick was amazed the White House had
released an electronic PDF file that had not been “flattened” so as to
remove all evidence that it had been modified.”

“”The reality is that clipping masks are commonly used not to scan a
document for preview or printing, but to merge or compose one or more
images,” he says in the final analysis. “It is – in my opinion and my
opinion only – a document that was, in fact, merged from several
originals.””

Read more:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=314717

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33 responses to “Adobe expert questions Obama birth certificate, WhiteHouse.gov image OCR, Merged from several originals?

  1. I’m not diputing the Adobe guy,
    I still think HJ Bounel was born in Hawaii and adopted by Lolo thus denationalized.
    The only way to settle this for good is look at “all the records” on file with HDOH , and that’s not going to happen. IMO

  2. diputing
    edit
    disputing

  3. “WORLD WAR III DEFINED: WIDER WAR UNFOLDING IN MIDDLE EAST”

    Infowars
    June 23, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “It’s time to identify the unfolding Middle East crisis for what it is– a wider world war. Elaborating on his previous video “Obama Launching World War III,” Alex Jones analyzes the more than nine years of expanding middle east conflict since 9/11, with the U.S. now engaging in 5 simultaneous proxy wars including Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan and Yemen.

    Tensions with Syria, Russia, China and other players may further fan the flames in the region, as top globalists, including Bilderberg attendees, have announced their intention to put ground troops in Libya and kick-off a “big war” encompassing much of Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.

    Despite opposition to the wars in U.S. Congress and throughout the NATO alliance, the Nobel Peace President will continue to try and save face as he escalates deadly conflict on behalf of his masters under a “humanitarian” pretext. The elites have craftily planted the seeds of chaos under the guise of the “Arab Spring” they helped fund and organize, which is now blossoming into an all-out war that could draw in major powers and proxy regimes alike.”

    http://www.infowars.com/world-war-iii-defined-wider-war-unfolding-in-middle-east/

    WORLD WAR III DEFINED: WIDER WAR UNFOLDING IN MIDDLE EAST

    * * * *

    “WORLD WAR III DEFINED: WIDER WAR UNFORLING IN MIDDLE EAST”

    “Uploaded by TheAlexJonesChannel on Jun 23, 2011″

    http://www.infowars.com/world-war-iii-defined-wider-war-unfolding-in-middle-e

    Excerpt:

    “It’s time to identify the unfolding Middle East crisis for what it is– a wider world war. Alex Jones analyzes the more than nine years of expanding middle east conflict since 9/11, with the U.S. now engaging in 5 simultaneous proxy wars including Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan and Yemen.

    Tensions with Syria, Russia, China and other players may further fan the flames in the region, as top globalists, including Bilderberg attendees, have announced their intention to put ground troops in Libya and kick-off a “big war” encompassing much of Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.

    Despite opposition to the wars in U.S. Congress and throughout the NATO alliance, the Nobel Peace President will continue to try and save face as he escalates deadly conflict on behalf of his masters under a “humanitarian” pretext. The elites have craftily planted the seeds of chaos under the guise of the “Arab Spring” they helped fund and organize, which is now blossoming into an all-out war that could draw in major powers and proxy regimes alike.”

  4. MUST READ IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!

    “U.S. CONGRESSMAN: CONCERNS ABOUT OBAMA’S BOGUS BIRTH CERTIFICATE & SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER RAISED WITH RELEVANT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES”

    Obama Release Your Records on 7:34 PM
    Thursday, June 23, 2011

    “Found: Congressman Who Has Read More than Maskell’s Memo!”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/us-congressman-concerns-about-obamas.html

    * * * * *

    From: Thursday, June 23, 2011

    AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM DOUG VOGT…YOU CAN HELP GET “OBAMA” REMOVED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!…

    Dear Patriots,

    I found this in the Federal Statutes and that is what I am going to do.
    Section 4 forces me to notify a governmental official, which I did when I notified the Director of the FBI.

    I will also be mailing him and the special agent in Hawaii the final 28 page report.

    If they do nothing, read section 3 of the law–interesting isn’t it? If I don’t get an answer from them that they are doing something, then next step is to notify every Federal Judge that will get a copy of the report along with the final Affidavit. If I don’t hear from them, then it will be every Federal Attorney will get copies. The Final ones on the list listed under Section 4 is the Military. Well then line Generals will get a copy. After all I am compelled by the Federal statutes to notify these officials.

    Since I am the one that proved Obama’s COLB is a Forgery I guess it is going to be my job. You may please contact the news media and the newspapers and anyone else you can, like Congressman and Senators and maybe between both of our efforts we will make it so hot for him that he will resign.

    Go to: ONENATIONUNDERFRAUD for contact information.

    TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

    PART I – CRIMES, CHAPTER 1 – GENERAL PROVISIONS

    Sec. 3. Accessory after the fact
    Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact. Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.
    Sec. 4. Misprision of felony
    Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
    Best to all of you
    Douglas Vogt

    HERE IS DOUG’S REPORT WHICH YOU CAN DOWNLOAD, PRINT AND MAIL TO YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPS:

    http://www.archiveindex.com/Obamas_Certificate_Forgery.html

    Posted by giveusliberty1776 at 9:43 PM

    2 comments:
    Anonymous said…
    This information needs to be posted on the birther report.com obama release your records and the free republic. you should also try to get wnd and dr. corsi to post a story on their website. make this go viral everywhere possible.

    June 24, 2011 7:13 AM
    Anonymous said…
    Thank you, Mr. Vogt.
    While it is certainly important to know all of the laws that congresscritters and others *could* be arrested and charged with, what cop will put his job and pension on the line by actually arresting one of these critters? Can they be placed under citizen’s arrest? I am reminded of Commander Walter Fitzpatrick who had the citizen’s arrest warrant in hand when he went to serve it, but they arrested HIM instead!! There HAS to be a way to crack this nut!!

    June 24, 2011 10:44 AM

  5. From: Give Us Liberty Website

    AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM DOUG VOGT…YOU CAN HELP GET “OBAMA” REMOVED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!…

    Read More Here: http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/06/important-message-from-doug-vogtyou-can.html

  6. If you acknowledge the different aliases and SSNs, the fact that he worked for BIC, that his mother worked for the CIA under various auspices, you have to eventually see the CIA behind all of this, including the phoney birth certificates. Only the CIA could keep his records out of reach and only with CIA backing could he get so many in government and the media to go along and help him get elected.

    The problem is the CIA. It has gotten out of control. The CIA supported the Muslim Brotherhood during the Cold War with the Soviets. The agency actively recruited Muslims to fight Soviet Communism. It helped to create the Jihadist problem we have today.

    “Barry Soetoro” is the only verifiable legal name we have for this guy. When he was born, who knows what name he was given? “Obama” seems to be an identity created for him by the CIA.

    The reason the Founders of our Constitution were so intent on checks and balances is they knew human nature and that power corrupts. There has not been adequate Congressional oversight of the CIA and other intelligence agencies. As a result, we have a hidden arm of government that controls information and does what it wants. Soetoro works for these folks and they work for him. They are very entrenched now and our Constitution hangs by a thread.

  7. Glen Beck just figured that Obama’s parents were never married and announced on the radio that Obama is a “bastard.”

    Q. Does this mean that Obama is a bastard child, or a BASTARD?

    I’m confused!

  8. From: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/us-congressman-concerns-about-obamas.html#comment-form

    An Interesting Comment:

    “AuntieMadder said:

    OT: This made me feel physically ill…and it wasn’t due to just the sound of Tom Brokaw’s voice this time.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/23/quotes-of-the-day-723

    Here’s a snip from the page:

    “We can pat ourselves on the back about the past 223 years, but we cannot let the Constitution become an obstacle to the U.S.’s moving into the future with a sensible health care system, a globalized economy, an evolving sense of civil and political rights. The Constitution, as Martin Luther King Jr. said in his great speech on the Mall, is a promissory note. That note had not been fulfilled for African Americans. But I would say the Constitution remains a promissory note, one in which ‘We the People’ in each generation try to create that more perfect union.”

    Absolutely nauseating, isn’t it?

    June 24, 2011 5:30 AM”

  9. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Dean M. | June 24, 2011 at 3:52 pm |

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    THE BIG QUESTION – “It is not “Who works for the CIA, BUT “WHO DOESN’T WORK FOR THE CIA?”

    AND – Government of the people, by the people and for the people HAS BECOME – Government to the people, by the GOVERNMENT and for the GOVERNMENT!!!

  10. AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM DOUG VOGT…YOU CAN HELP GET “OBAMA” REMOVED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!…

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/06/important-message-from-doug-vogtyou-can.html

  11. Alexander Hamilton wrote Federalist #68. It has to do with our method of choosing our President. The Electorial College is supposed to safeguard our country by properly vetting any candidate who might try to usurp the office. He gave this warning in Federalist #68:

    “These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire to foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?”

    The problem with the last Presidential election is the Electorial College did not do its job. Soetoro was not properly vetted. His past was kept classified and the Electors just accepted the CIA’s guaruntee that the guy was alright.

    Had the people known Soetoro had worked for the CIA, that he had used various aliases and had been recruited because of his Muslim ties, he most likely would not have been nominated, let alone, elected.

    The other problem we have is that intelligence agents are subject to a digression and disloyalty if they identify too much with “target nations.” What happens then is called “transference.” An agent’s loyaly transfers away from his own country and its allies to the target nations.

    Soetoro apologizes for America, snubs Israel, sends back the bust of Winston Churchill to England, but wishes Iran Happy New Year in Iranian, extolls Iran’s cultural contributions and does nothing to stop Iran’s nuclear development. This is just scratching the surface, naming obvious, open examples.

    Do we now have the very problem for which Hamilton warned us? Have they raised a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? There are so many indications that Soetoro’s sympathies lie elsewhere. What are we to do?

    It is time to clean house. It doesn’t matter that what has been done was done under the guise of “national security” by the CIA. The birth certificates are false documents and it doesn’t matter that the CIA produced them. Soetoro is responsible and they have violated the law on this account alone. It is an impeachable offense. We need to get the House of Representatives to initiate impeachment charges on the grounds of fraud and forgery.

  12. Philo-Publius

    MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
    This is a follow up to my last report, US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/

  13. Mr. Bill (ms. Helga)–Of course you are right. We don’t know who we can trust and who is working for whom. In my view, we have to start with our Represenatives in the House. We must get them to initiate impeachment proceedings against Soetoro. We must let them know in no uncertain terms that we will hold them directly responsible.

    Observer–Thanks for the Vogt information. His findings are the basis for impeachment. IMPEACH SOETORO! He has not proven he is “Obama,” but has used a forgery to try to do so. The only legitimate records we have show his name to be Soetoro. So now he has crossed the line. The CIA is not authorized to commit fraud and forgery against the American people. In the name of “National Security” they may think they have that right, but they don’t. They need to be put in their place and fast. Patreus, Panetta–the whole lot need to be removed, to include the impeachment and removal of Soetoro. As I said above, our Constitution is now hanging by a thread. It is time to act. WE NEED TO PRESSURE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES relentlessly. I am writing to my Congressman right now. It is going to be a stern, strong letter.

  14. Dean, you can’t impeach an illegal usurper pResident.

  15. “Meet PJ Foggy, Radical Obama Obot & the Odd Eligibility Protection Posse”

    “Who is Bill Bryan, aka “PJ Foggy” the Raleigh, North Carolina florist? And what is his connection to the rabid pro-Obama Fogbow Forum and website Politijab? Who brags that he took down Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren’s Gretawire? Who at one time held a license to practice law? Who is reported to be at the center of the network of Obama radical activists who forged and distributed a fraudulent Kenyan birth certificate in August 2009? Who has made various attempts to influence various judges before whom attorney Orly Taitz has brought eligibility law suits?”

    Gulag Notes:

    “Tracy also discusses numerous other O-bots and their apparent identities …

    Tracy’s videos on these subjects may be found at:”

    http://www.liveleak.com/c/KenyanBornObamAcorn

    http://gulagbound.com/17123/streaming-meet-pj-foggy-radical-obama-obot-the-odd-eligibility-protection-posse/

    ==========
    Listen:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2011/06/24/the-andrea-shea-king-show

    Download:

    [audio src="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2011/06/24/the-andrea-shea-king-show.mp3" /]

  16. bob strauss

    Bringing this forward from last post by CW, it was posted at the end and I don’t know if anyone saw this, by Leo.

    MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
    Posted in Uncategorized on June 24, 2011 by naturalborncitizen

    [This is a follow up to my last report, US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. ]

    Since my last report, many people have asked why the definition in Minor v. Happersett of a “natural-born citizen” (as a person born in the US to parents who are citizens) is binding legal precedent. The answer is in the Court’s holding that Virginia Minor was a US citizen…because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens. That part of the actual holding is listed in the official syallbus of the case.

    And furthermore, Minor was the first case to hold that women are equal citizens to men. To this day, that case is still cited as the first US Supreme Court decision which recognized that women were, in fact, citizens. It is still precedent for that determination. Google [ "minor v happersett" "women are citizens" ] and review the results. A multitude of articles discuss the holding of Minor – that women are US citizens.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  17. GORDO | June 24, 2011 at 7:10 pm |

    I remember that guy from my CIA days.

  18. Borrowed this comment from the NBC blog
    Simple enough that even Joe sixpack will understand. Spread it around.
    ———————————————————————————
    June 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM
    Leo,

    You have done an excellent job as to explaining who the natural born citizens are and why the 14th Amendment citizens are not natural born citizens.

    I work in building automation and read control basic ( logic ) almost every day.

    And I’ve always had a problem with people construing the 14th Amendment citizens as natural born citizens.

    Just as in control basic it doesn’t add up.

    The Amendments says, All persons born (A) or naturalized in the United States (B) and subject to the jurisdiction thereof (C), are citizens (D).

    In control basic it Reads:

    ( A , B ) and C = D

    Since the Amendment uses the word ” or ” in between ” persons- born ” and ” naturalized ” it tells us that ” A ” and ” B ” are the same and if ” C ” is true you have “D”.

    We know without a doubt that a naturalized citizen can never be defined as a natural born citizen and we have the 14th Amendment defining persons born as the same as those naturalized.

    Therefore logic does not allow the 14th Amendment citizens to be defined as natural born citizens.
    ed. interesting logic. I hadn’t thought about it that way. – Leo
    I will apply that same logic to Minor V. Happersett in my next comment.
    ————————————————————————-
    IMO, HJ Bounel was born a 14th ammendment citizen, not POTUS eligible.

  19. NBC Vic Hern

    Just a gut feeling on my part, but that feeling is nagging.
    Not long after our next big poll party, someone else will
    become Osama-like shark bait. Win, lose or no-show.

  20. “ORYR ON THE GROUND FOR PAST 24 HRS IN INDIA…waiting to catch bus to Islamabad. Wow…this investigation has taken a wild turn!”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/oryr-in-indiaplanning-to-travel-to.html

  21. Perhaps this is why Obama had to sleep on it before he ordered the Osama raid without telling Pakistan. Maybe he was worried they would release info on him in retaliation. But still don’t know why an investigator would tell people where he was going ahead of time. Just do it, and get out of there quietly.

  22. White House Insider: Obama “Panicked” Over Re-Election Prospects
    Dated June 23rd

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obama-panicked-over-re-election-prospects/

  23. Philo-Publius

    A Poster at Leo’s blog comments

    jimmy Says:
    June 24, 2011 at 6:30 PM
    I’m trying to link this to my FB page, but FB keeps removing it.
    Am I allowed to link this ?

    Leo replies.
    ed. It looks like we may have really struck a chord now… I am receiving multiple messages that Facebook is banning links here. This is huge if true. – Leo

  24. jacqlynsmith

    If you are on facebook here’s how you can help…..if not just go to the campaign site and donate….

    Ron Paul 2012
    We’ve raised over $3.3 million for this quarter! Can we reach $5 million before July 1st? Please consider changing your profile picture to spread the word. If you can, make a donation at http://www.ronpaul2012.com (orders from the campaign store count as a donation).. or donate to a specific project in Iowa at http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php

  25. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    MEANWHILE at the New York State Legislative games last night –

    God – 0
    The Devil – won

  26. Cabby – AZ | June 25, 2011 at 3:37 am | White House Insider: Obama “Panicked” Over Re-Election Prospects
    Dated June 23rd

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obama-panicked-over-re-election-prospects/

    __________________________________________________

    I think we could use a Chicago “insider” since that’s where the masterminds/forgers and their connections operate from. Those within the WH gang may themselves even be out of that other loop since they’re just now coming to wonder about O’s undocumented past. Anyone “on the ground” in that territory, Chicagoland, though better have made out their last will beforehand!

  27. The devil may have won this particular battle but God never loses. He is the infinite power and glory.

  28. jacqlynsmith | June 25, 2011 at 8:29 am |

    He’s still to old.

  29. jacqlynsmith

    Pat 1789 | June 25, 2011 at 4:44 pm |

    jacqlynsmith | June 25, 2011 at 8:29 am |

    He’s still to old.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Age is a state of mind and a matter of health….maybe it is YOU that is TOO old!

  30. Bob Strauss…………………..Can you supply the date of Minor vs Happersett? Also the date of the finding as well.

  31. Pingback: Howard Coble Congress, Obama birth certificate fraudulent, Major General Paul Vallely, 10 CIA Agents say Obama birth certificate forgery | Citizen WElls

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