John Woodman book “Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?”, Citizen Wells analysis and review, Another messenger shooter, Woodman’s motivation

John Woodman book “Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?”, Citizen Wells analysis and review, Another messenger shooter, Woodman’s motivation

“There is an epidemic of messenger shooting in this country.”.”…Citizen Wells

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

***  UPDATE BELOW  ***

Preface:

I had pretty well formulated most of what I was about to write up until a few minutes ago. I was leaning toward giving John Woodman more benefit of the doubt. However, after mulling this over for a few more minutes a disturbing trend or puzzle picture emerged. A number of things Mr. Woodman has stated, used as evidence or omitted concern me. Whether this occurred at the subsconscious level or intentional level I do not know. John Woodman has stated and the premise of his book is debunking the debunkers. He seems more concerned about doing this than arriving at the truth about Obama’s eligibility and whether or not the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov proves a Hawaiian birth for Obama. More on this at the conclusion.

My analysis:

Bold face type used below to emphasize important points.

John Woodman has written and published a book titled “Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?”. I contacted Mr. Woodman several days ago to find out more about the book and his motives for writing it. We have similar work and education backgrounds and we had a pleasant series of email exchanges. I explained my motivation to Mr. Woodman and that I would notify him when I respond. Mr. Woodman has done a good job of analyzing the PDF file and explaining his methodology.

I have well over 30 years experience in Information Technology beginning in 1968 over a broad base of software, hardware and application areas. I have extensively researched and written about Barack Obama. My only motivation is love of and concern for this country. Perhaps my knowledge of Obama, his documented  pattern of lies and deception, has better prepared me to evaluate the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov with a clearer lens. With my decoder ring on Orwellian language interpret settings. Mr. Woodman stayed true to his objective of debunking the debunkers. There is no reason thus far for me to believe he had a hidden agenda. However, before I continue, my biggest overall criticism of Mr. Woodman is this. The burden of proof is on Obama. Even Little League participants are required to submit a photostatic copy of an original birth certificate. Mr. Woodman is guilty of shooting the messengers.
“Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?

I understand that John Woodman probably used that title for publishing purposes, to catch the attention of the public. However, from an objective analysis standpoint, that begins the process with an unproved assumption. And furthermore, Mr. Woodman continues with that nomenclature throughout the book. To his credit, he does mention a few times that the image may be a fraud, but the trend was already established and per Orwell, Hitler and Goebbels, the “lie” was repeated and therefore to be believed.

The correct description and one that I have adhered to when writing about it is:

Is the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov a photostatic copy of a legitimate long form birth certificate for Obama proving birth in Hawaii?

The difference between these 2 statements is crucial in determining the truth.

Why is this important?

1. An image was placed on WhiteHouse.gov with absolutely no proof of chain of document, one that with a cursory examination is highly suspect. Even if proven to have come from the Hawaii Department of Health, it may simply be an abstract.

2. The Hawaii statutes in 1961 and today allow for a birth certificate for a non Hawaiian birth.

Mr. Woodman makes the following “hasty conclusion” or over generalization on Page 205 of his book:

“How Do The Experts Score?”

“So why do the “for’s” at this point, outnumber the against’s?”
Part of the answer is that a few of the individuals in the “for” group have experience and points of view that may not be adequate for, or not quite applicable to, the task. One is a teenager; one is mostly a business owner; another is mostly a financial specialist; one is a writer of non-technical books.

Another is a typographer working with distorted fonts.”

So business owners are incapable of analysis and drawing proper conclusions? This reminds me of the classic attitude of the left and so called intellectuals.

Mr. Woodman, I am uniquely qualified to offer my analysis.

Some of Mr. Woodman’s assertions are wrong or misleading.

From Page 207:

“Dr. Corsi has publicly promoted, either in writing or on the radio, at least twenty-three evidence-of-fraud theories that we cover in this book.
In writing and speaking about his own theories as well as those of others, he has publicly identified the following as potential indicators of fraud:

the nature of the layers
alleged editing of items on the certificate
the white halo
the duplicated characters
the date stamps
the “scanner with x-ray vision
the altered PDF posted at archiveindex.com by Doug Vogt
the supposed kerning
comparison with the “African birth” forgery
the supposed lack of text curvature
the apparent lack of a seal
the alignment of Ann Dunham Obama’s signature
the supposed existence of “hidden text”
the idea that a different document exists
the out-of-sequence birth certificate number
Paul Irey’s theory of different typefaces
the supposed misspelling of the word “THE”
the supposed “smiley face” in the signature stamp
the supposed record of the forger’s initials
the supposed lack of hospital records for Mrs. Obama
the discrepancy in Barack Obama, Sr,’s age
the allegations by Tim Adams
and the idea that Governor Abercrombie had stated that no birth certificate existed.

As we have seen, not a single one of these twenty-three alleged indicators or “proofs” that the document is a fraud or invalid really holds up under close examination..
Not one.”

Semantics! If we strictly look at only the image on WhiteHouse.gov as being tampered with, then perhaps Mr. Woodman can get away with this, although it makes me question his motives. Some of the items above are certainly open to inspection and questioning. However, if our objective is to ascertain whether or not the image represents a legitimate birth certificate, then Tim Adams affidavit and Governor Abercrombie’s statements are highly relevant. And has Mr. Woodman viewed any hospital records for Stanley and little Obama?

On page 217 Mr. Woodman states:

“Also weighing against the idea of a forgery is the fact that any conspiracy  would need to involve:

high officials in Hawaii state government (most likely, stretching across two gubernatorial administrations of both parties)

lower-level Department of Health staff.

probably at least one official from the White House

most likely some intelligence agency personnel

and Barack Obama himself.

As the number of people required for the conspiracy to work goes up, the likelihood of a successful conspiracy goes down.
Nonetheless, I will admit that it’s possible to believe that a fraud has been committed.”

Tim Adams, documented as having worked in the Honolulu elections office in 2008, has signed an affidavit stating that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii than and that it was common knowledge. Governor Abercrombie stated that he could find no birth certifcate for Obama. Only a notation.

Tim Adams and Governor Abercrombie may not relate to the image being a fraud, but they certainly do to Obama being one.

Mr. Woodman spends much of his efforts trying to debunk the layers and anomalies pointed out by others. He may be correct about some of his assertions. His explanation for most of this is a software program. By doing so, he is in fact proving that the image is not a photostatic copy.

He further compares the image to that of certified copies for the Nordyke twins. He states that they are from the same type of forms. However, the biggest difference between the 2 images is that the Nordyke twins certificates have a stamped seal and verbage that states:

“This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record on file.”

The WhiteHouse.com image has the following:

“I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of health.”  Alvin T. Onaki, Ph.D.

Abstract: “The term abstract is subject to different meanings, but in a legal sense, it refers to an abbreviated history of an official record.”

I am not certain what Mr. Woodman is trying to prove on Page 182:

“Did Barack Obama pay $2 Million on lawyers in order to avoid releasing his long-form Birth Certificate?”

“No figure is publicly available on what part of the $2.8 million spent by Obama campaign on legal assistance has gone specifically to pay attorneys in Obama’s eligibility lawsuits.”

“Whatever the amount paid by Mr. Obama to his lawyers for his defense, then, it doesn’t appear to be anywhere approaching the amounts that have sometimes been claimed.”

The sums paid in money are enormous and debatable. However, numerous Justice Dept. attorneys at taxpayer expense have been used since early 2009. Mr. Woodman does not mention Robert Bauer, of Perkins Coie, who represented Obama in lawsuits and was hired as White House Counsel by Obama in 2009.

Page 217

“In other words, if the document is a forgery, then – far from being a sloppy one – it must have been done by an absolute professional with almost flawless attention to subtle detail.
Approaching the subject from a bit different angle, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was a rather different and remarkable young woman. Even so, upon reflection, I find it very unlikely that a white young woman of 18 years would travel by herself, in 1961, literally halfway around the world in order to have her first baby alone in East Africa.
For this reason, the circumstances of the mother weigh against the likelihood of a forgery as well.”

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was certainly different. I am not sure how he applied logic and onjectivity to arrive at that conclusion. We still have no proof of the location of Obama’s birth. It could have been in Canada for all we know.

Page 221

“I am all for declaring Barack Obama ineligible to be President – if he really is ineligible.
But if nobody can produce hard, credible evidence that that’s the case, then Mr. Obama must be understood to legitimately be occupying the Office of President, and be recognized as the choice – for now, at least – of the American people.”
“For too long, politicians and others in our society have gotten away with bending, even twisting the truth. Some have freely profited from doing so, and often at the people’s expense.”

Mr. Woodman, the burden of proof is on Obama just as it is on the young person going out for a little league team. Only, far more important. Obama’s pattern of lies and deceit and keeping his records hidden has heightened the need for scrutiny. We have plenty of proof that Obama is ineligible and none that he is.

John Woodman gets to the bottom line.

Page 206

“I have heard people ask, “Well, if the birth certificate isn’t a fake, then why is it that not one single expert has come forward to state that it’s authentic?”

“In my personal view, a good expert should not attempt to state authoritively that a document “is authentic” without – at a minimum – full access to the original document; and in this case, the record-keeping systems.
This is something we do not have.
Since we don’t have such access, then, we are limited to forming an opinion, based on the evidence we do have.
This includes our detailed, point-by-point analysis, and it includes the relevant statements from the Hawaii Department of Health testifying as to the documents authenticity. On these things we must base our conclusions.”

Access to an original birth certificate proving Hawaiian birth has not been provided. “Relevant” statements from Hawaii officials have been hard to come by. Most of this has been manipulated by the media.

Page 216

“On the other hand, disproving the various claims of fraud cannot prove that the birth certificate is genuine.
You may recall that at the beginning of this book, I stated that a birth certificate might pass every single test we could throw at it, and still be a forgery.”

Aside from any “expert opinion” we have these facts to rely on:

Tim Adams, who is documented to have worked in the Honolulu elections office in 2008 and who signed an affidavit stating that there was no birth certificate for Obama in 2008 and that it was common knowledge. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.

Governor Neil Abercrombie stated that he could find no birth certificate for Obama, only a record of birth.

The WhiteHouse.gov image has the following certification:

“I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of health.”

The image could easily be an abstract, a collection of data permitted by Hawaii law in 1961 and today.

Conclusion:

Regardless of whether or not the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov is a fraud from the standpoint of being altered is irrelevant. The practices of Obama and his cohorts are fraudulent. He has provided absolutely no proof of Hawaiian birth. This does not supercede or diminish the other aspect of his non eligibility. He is still not eligible as a Natural Born Citizen simply because both parents were not US Citizens.

Mr. Woodman, I welcome your response and if I have misrepresented you or erred factually, please inform. But I challenge you to get out of messenger shooting mode and direct your energies toward holding Obama accountable. Your talents are welcome in that endeavor.

Wells

*** Update September 2, 2011, 7:30 PM   ***

This comment was so well written it is worthy of being an addendum.

From commenter Pete:

“Citizen Wells,
No expert can verify an internet document as legitimate, but you can declare it a fraud. Hawaiian law states that public display of private records removes the Hawaiian obligation to protect them. Simply put, if Obama displays his Birth Certificate copy on the internet or on a Federal Government website, he has no right to privacy.

Here are undisputed facts:
1. The Federal Government, via the Executive Branch, has published a Document they claim is Obama’s Hawaiian BC. Not disputed.
2. There is no legal chain of Custody for the document published by the White House.
3. The DoH (Department of Health) in Hawaii REFUSED a legal subpeona to review the Document by experts in person after pre-arrangements had been made.

Obviously the Hawaian DoH has acted appropriately in this case because the information on the White House site does not match DoH records. Specifically, they are obligated to continue to protect the privacy of Obama since his actual records have not been released and seen by the public, or contain information confirming late birth registration.

Further, Judge Lambert’s recent ruling, in contrary to other national judges and Obama senate campaign (the Ryan Divorce documents) has declared that a politician has the right to privacy. That privacy must be given for certain vital records per national law, but that privacy is null and void if the individual make them public (puts on internet).

I don’t think it could be more clear that Obama has privacy laws protecting him as he has NOT released a legitimate copy of his COLB or long form Birth Certificate. What the public has seen is not what is in the record, or he wouldn’t be protected.

As Sherlock Holmes once said “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.”

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118 responses to “John Woodman book “Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?”, Citizen Wells analysis and review, Another messenger shooter, Woodman’s motivation

  1. He says the allegations by Tim Adams “don’t hold up under close examination”?

    He has no problem with the word “abstract” on the alleged bc?

    Albert Renshaw, the genius, can’t be trusted because he’s 16 yrs old?

    Goodman is an obvious fraud.

  2. Norman | September 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
    If you think you will find ANY congressman or senator that will help in your pursuit of the truth about the illegal Obama, you are crazy. I have written each and every congressman and senator and asked each of them to come up with any kind of proof that Obama was legal, and have never received an answer from any of them. They fear a “Black Backlash” if they make any attempt to discredit Obama, causing the normal response from the black “community” in the form of riots, and “civil unrest” This is the normal response from the black culture. Any time there is a problem that they view as anti black, they riot. This can be proven by merely looking into recent history in nearly every state. Good luck getting Obama out of office. I think the only way to get him out is to throw him out bodily, or find some senators and congressmen with balls that aren’t corrupt…

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    While I agree that none in congress are going to do anything to remove bo from office, I disagree with your assertion about the only way to bring bo and his criminal cohorts to justice.

    bo can be brought to justice by Sheriff Joe and the Tea Party members in Arizona and indicting bo and his local criminal cohorts in Grand Juries in your local Counties.

  3. PS: There are conservative communities all across America where bo can be indicted without fear of Blacks rioting because there are so Blacks and they would be easily overcome by the Police if they attempted to riot.

  4. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    “Rosemary’s Baby”

  5. I say “follow the money” on this guy Goodman’s book.

    Who’s gonna buy it? Us eligibility people? Fat chance.
    Are the liars out there going to buy it? I don’t see why they would. At least not in great numbers.

    If we can find out how much money this guy has been paid to write this book and how many of the books are sold in big “batches”, we may be a long way toward finding out his motivation.

  6. More

    Or if they’re trying to hide the payments they make to Goodman and not show it in the publishing area, is he suddenly going to get a substantial piece of new business from the gov’t or an obama backer.

  7. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this book weren’t a “collaborative effort” between Goodman and Obama lawyers.

  8. yo | September 2, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this book weren’t a “collaborative effort” between Goodman and Obama lawyers.

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    You are probably right about this. Remember in the eligibility cases they had no learned treatises to support the validity of bo’s BC claims, so the judges merely alluded to twitter and other such BS. When the criminal trials commence, you bet that they are going to cite Goodman’s book and use him as an expert.

    No doubt that bo’s lawyers are very nervous now because they are criminally culpable to the extent that they participated in the fraud and the criminal coverup.

  9. There are conservative communities all across America where bo can be indicted without fear of Blacks rioting because there are so few Blacks and they would be easily overcome by the Police if they attempted to riot.

  10. bo will be inciting more riots like he did in Wisconsin and Kenya in the coming months. Sooner or later bo will have to be indicted, physically removed from the White House, and imprisoned at an undisclosed location to await trial. The politicians in DC are fooling themselves if they think then can deal with a madman like bo through the political process.

  11. Perry’s camp downplayed the new poll, with political adviser David Carney telling McClatchy via email, “Polls at this point are neither predictive nor enlightening, but they kill lots of trees and keep many people employed.”

    However, political analyst Sherry Bebitch Jeffe of the University of Southern California said Perry’s recent candidacy had made him “the new, new thing. It’s not surprising he’s gotten a bump in the polls.”

    “It’s still not happy news for Obama or Romney,” Jeffe added. “It’s early. The primary election season is a series of statewide elections and this is a national poll.”

    Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said of Perry that “In a series of polls, he’s skyrocketed to the front-runner position, and that is significant.”

    Cal Jillson, a professor of political science at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, said the poll mattered: “It’s as significant as anything can be four or five months before any votes are cast. There was an appetite for Perry in the Republican primary, and I think there is a clear dissatisfaction with the Obama presidency.”

    Jillson said it would help Perry with fundraising and, moreover, “I think it gives him confidence.”

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/02/2387800/texas-rick-perry-beats-obama-for.html#ixzz1WpmCfQq6

  12. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Free Speech | September 2, 2011 at 5:32 pm |

    yo | September 2, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this book weren’t a “collaborative effort” between Goodman and Obama lawyers.
    __________________________________________________

    The biggest contributor to the Democrat Party are the American Trial Lawyers Ass’n.(Has a new name now)
    LOOK IT UP

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_for_Justice

    PS – Read about Fred Baron

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Baron

  13. http://news.yahoo.com/rick-perry-stopped-204000800.html

    Perry cannot be a dangerous right wing nut and a closet liberal at the same time. But the fact that he is being accused of both suggests a certain panic setting in on other people, the man who would stay president and the men and one woman who would become president. If Perry is not stopped and diminished soon, his momentum would become unstoppable.

    President Obama would be faced with one of his worst nightmares, a conservative, tough talking Texan who polls well against him. He would not want part of his tattered legacy to be enabling another person like that ascending to the Oval Office.

    The other Republicans who hear “Hail to the Chief” in their dreams are contemplating having that dream dashed. They will have to forget all the mean things they said about Perry and support him in the common cause of making Obama a one termer. They will have to curry favor with the nominee for offices in his new administration. Secretary of Commerce and Trade Representative are no doubt fine things to be. But they are not president of the United States.

    Sarah Palin is waiting in the wings, with the question of will she or won’t she and when will she? John Fund has the theory, shared by some, that she will decline to run and throw her weight behind Perry. Looking at Perry’s great polls and her terrible ones, the strategy might be a good one from Palin’s standpoint. This will especially be true if Perry grants her, in the way of a thank you, an office. If not the Vice Presidency, Secretary of Energy might do. 2020 is not that far away and she would still be in her prime.

  14. I received an intelligent, mature email response from John Woodman, the author.
    He was appreciative of the review.
    I look forward to reading his detailed response.

  15. Your last paragraph is well said, CW.

  16. Sorry last two paragraphs.

  17. I gave John Woodman a heads up on the article and I will wait for his response before commenting further.
    I want the truth.

  18. Citizen Wells,
    No expert can verify an internet document as legitimate, but you can declare it a fraud. Hawaiian law states that public display of private records removes the Hawaiian obligation to protect them. Simply put, if Obama displays his Birth Certificate copy on the internet or on a Federal Government website, he has no right to privacy.

    Here are undisputed facts:
    1. The Federal Government, via the Executive Branch, has published a Document they claim is Obama’s Hawaiian BC. Not disputed.
    2. There is no legal chain of Custody for the document published by the White House.
    3. The DoH (Department of Health) in Hawaii REFUSED a legal subpeona to review the Document by experts in person after pre-arrangements had been made.

    Obviously the Hawaian DoH has acted appropriately in this case because the information on the White House site does not match DoH records. Specifically, they are obligated to continue to protect the privacy of Obama since his actual records have not been released and seen by the public, or contain information confirming late birth registration.

    Further, Judge Lambert’s recent ruling, in contrary to other national judges and Obama senate campaign (the Ryan Divorce documents) has declared that a politician has the right to privacy. That privacy must be given for certain vital records per national law, but that privacy is null and void if the individual make them public (puts on internet).

    I don’t think it could be more clear that Obama has privacy laws protecting him as he has NOT released a legitimate copy of his COLB or long form Birth Certificate. What the public has seen is not what is in the record, or he wouldn’t be protected.

    As Sherlock Holmes once said “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”.

  19. http://nation.foxnews.com/obama-jobs-plan/2011/09/02/wh-already-lowering-expectations-jobs-speech

    In what could be a way of lowering expectations for next Thursday’s big economic speech, aides to President Obama are privately spreading word that he will not present his entire jobs plan in his address to a Joint Session of Congress.

    Aides say Thursday’s speech will be part of a bigger plan the White House will roll out throughout the fall with the president hitting the road for speeches and town hall appearances.

    Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/09/02/white-house-hints-more-economic-speeches-proposals-ahead#ixzz1Wq0ptkEO

  20. Pete.
    Amen.

  21. VERY well said, Pete!

  22. the greatest election of all time a half white half black man gets elected.!! So when he signs his first ORDER!!!!! The media is where? NOWHERE!!! Cause they knew he is a fruad!!!! What was was it? SEALING ALL RECORDS!! that should be a lawsuit right there

  23. CW. Pete’s post could be a separate thread. It is one of the best I have seen from your followers in a very long time.

  24. http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/08/virtually-zero-chance-of-ron-paul-third-party-bid-says-jesse-benton/

    Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul’s presidential campaign said Monday that he’s very unlikely to run for president as a third-party candidate.

    “We don’t deal in absolutes, but there’s virtually zero chance,” said Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton. “He has no plans, no interest. It’s as close to zero as it can be without absolutely ruling it out.”

  25. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/ron-paul-campaign-virtually-zero-chance-of-third-party-bid/2011/08/15/gIQAZvC2IJ_blog.html#pagebreak

    Benton noted, though, that the practicalities of running a third-party campaign make it very difficult to seek the GOP nomination first. Some states, for example, require that a candidate filing for a primary under one party’s banner sign a pledge promising to not run with another party in the general election.

    “You have to make a decision pretty early on which way you’re going to go,” Benton said, “and he’s chosen to stay in the Republican Party.”

    There is also plenty of reason for Paul not to do something that would irritate the Republican Party. His son, freshman Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), is a rising star in his own right and could have presidential designs of his own.

    If the elder Paul were to ruin the GOP’s chances of winning the presidency next year, it could compromise the younger Paul’s standing in the party.

    Altogether, it makes a third-party bid from Ron Paul intriguing but very unlikely.

  26. yo | September 2, 2011 at 5:19 pm | I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this book weren’t a “collaborative effort” between Goodman and Obama lawyers.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this book weren’t a “collaborative effort” between Goodman and Obama lawyers…..and Bill Ayers!!!

  27. CW, I received this email today! It must be untrue but I am sending it FYI!
    Speak to me O’ Supreme Court. Is he or isn’t he. I want to know.
    VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP BEING LOOKED AT BY SUPREME COURT
    I did not think that the US supreme court would consider these petitions because of the risk of racial unrest, as well a criticism of the court if found that his candidacy and subsequent taking office was illegal It appears I was mistaken. I have seen zero about this in the media.

    If you haven’t already heard – the case of Obama being a citizen – or not – has reached the Supreme Court of the United States on Tuesday 7/26/2011. If you believe he is a citizen, then you will most likely delete this. If you suspect he is not a citizen, then this will please you and so many others. It is finally going to come to a head as it can go no further than this court.

    VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
    AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –
    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr Holder has refused to comment on the matter….

    LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !
    Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
    While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

    So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

    And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

    The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they MUST have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

    Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20? A : Yes, by his own admission.
    Q: What passport did he travel under? A: There are only three possibilities. 1) He traveled with a U.S. . … Passport, 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. … State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
    Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

    Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.

    Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
    If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.
    If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!

    PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW……..OUR COUNTRY IS IN DIRE NEED OF CHANGE FOR THE BETTER!!!

  28. hillbo demRat paxson,

    I’v seen your posts on the anti-CW sites where you say such defamatory things about CW as, “CW has lost ALL credibility and his blog is not worth papering the bird cage with.”

    If you feel that way why do you continue to pollute CW with your WORTHLESS BS posts, hillbo demRat?

  29. I would never use the phrase “not worth papering the bird cage with”. There was a time when CW banned me and I was angry with him. He knows that and he let me back. I think that we, CW and I, are o.k. now even though I don’t understand why he protects your sorry but… why don’t you stay out of my relationship with CW? Its none of your business.

  30. Woodman doesn’t know what he is talking about. I wonder if he actually went through that document putting through certain software to see how some of the letters came from a scan from other documents and was turned at -90 degrees angle to line up with the rest of the word, such as the word none. His book should be considered a work of fiction. There is no basis for his flimsy argument. He is an obot fraud.

  31. rog, sorry, not true.

  32. Along the same lines, FS, it is you who pollutes this place with your psychotic behaviour.

  33. My question is if you dislike CW so much why do you continue to pollute CW with your WORTHLESS BS posts, hillbo demRat paxson?

  34. I seen it rumored that SCOTUS was investigating bo’s criminal acts but I doubt that since such investigation would be impermissible pursuant to Rules and Laws governing SCOTUS procedure.

    Basically the Court must have a case before it before it can consider evidence. To my knowledge no criminal case regarding bo has ever come before the Court. The Court does have original jurisdiction however, if a criminal case were to to filed.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  35. With original jurisdiction SCOTUS could act quickly on a criminal prosecution of bo if they had a mind and the will to do it.

    Unfortunately none in our federal government have the will to prosecute bo. The Republicans think they can deal with bo politically. I doubt it. Sooner or later bo will have to be indicted and arrested to have him removed from our White House.

  36. Mark Levin is now talking about bo and holder’s cover-up of Fast and Furious. That is merely one of the grounds that provides more than ample criminal information for bo’s indictment.

  37. Partial List of crimes BO and his local co-conspirators:

    War Crimes in Libya

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    Birth Document Forgeries

    TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    Union Assaults

    Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    Identity Theft

    Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-indict-bho-for-criminal-cover-up.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  38. If I disliked CW, I wouldn’t post here at all. As hard as it may be for you, why don’t you butt out of CW’s and my interpersonal relationship?

  39. Vice President Cheney will be on Mark Levin’s show in a few minutes.

    http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930

  40. American flag lowered in presence of Saudi Arabian flag at Ft. Collins public school

    http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=10886

  41. That’s it Mr. Woody ? WTF
    Did you ever consider Canada? If you had done any research at all you would have known that SAD showed up in Seattle a couple of weeks after BHO was born. Look at a friggin map.

    If, and that’s a big if, he was born on foreign soil.
    Canada was the most likely spot. I don’t even think you needed ID to go back and forth across the border back then.

    Hussein, still a Natural Born Brit, not eligible.
    ———————————————————————————-
    Even so, upon reflection, I find it very unlikely that a white young woman of 18 years would travel by herself, in 1961, literally halfway around the world in order to have her first baby alone in East Africa.
    For this reason, the circumstances of the mother weigh against the likelihood of a forgery as well.”

  42. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/02/demand-for-more-answers-in-fast-and-furious-scandal/?test=latestnews

    Just hours after the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, federal officials tried to cover up evidence that the gun that killed Terry was one the government intentionally helped sell to the Mexican cartels in a weapons trafficking program known as Operation Fast and Furious.

    The revelation comes just days after a huge shake-up of government officials who oversaw the failed anti-gun trafficking program and Congress renewed its demand for more answers.

    Also late Thursday, Sen. Charles Grassley’s office revealed that 31 more Fast and Furious guns have been found at 12 violent crime scenes in Mexico.

  43. .More on Fast and Furious BHO weapons scandal
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20110902,0,7480365.story

    One has to wonder how many innocent Mexican Citizens were murdered with BHO’s weapons to drug cartels program.

  44. rminnc,

    Sorry I asked you to try and articulate why you are so fearful of the bilderbergers.

  45. rminnc,

    In your tirade you mention david rockerfeller. What does david rockerfeller have to do with Gov. Rick Perry? Rockerfeller has never given a dime to Gov. Perry, but I bet that if you check Romney’s campaign finance records you will find rockerfeller listed as one of his donors.

  46. Pat 1789 | September 2, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    .More on Fast and Furious BHO weapons scandal
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20110902,0,7480365.story

    One has to wonder how many innocent Mexican Citizens were murdered with BHO’s weapons to drug cartels program.

    —————————————————————–
    No one has asked the most important question, why did bo want to arm the mexican drug cartels?

  47. More……

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/cover-up-is-undeniable-grassley-issa.html
    [LATER: The target of this is Burke. Burke is in a bind. He is reported to have been losing both sleep and weight, and is looking "haggard and weary." His interview with the committee a few days was unsatisfactory, from what I hear, on both sides. He's going to have to give a lot more up before he gets any kind of deal. Who could he give up?

    The references to OCDETF are no accident. F&F was a DOJ-driven operation encompassing a whole lot of other agencies besides ATF -- including, significantly, DHS -- and higher ups in DOJ. And Burke was? Anybody? Bueller? That's right, Napolitano's former chief of staff. Burke can give them a whole hell of a lot more than he has so far. The reference to the FBI investigation was not done idly either. The prairie fire picks up velocity.

    Who's got the popcorn? ]

  48. In the Supreme Court of the State of Oklahoma #109 808
    S.L.C. Vs the State of Oklahoma
    The Honorable Mary Fallin, Governor et al

    APPLICATION TO ASSUME ORIGINAL JURISDICTION
    MOTION OF MANDAMUS
    MOTION
    CERTIFICATION OF U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION
    TO THE
    SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

    On August 30th the Oklahoma Supreme Court Chief Justice ordered the Court Clerk to enter an Order directing the Respondents to respond no later than September 19th, 2011

    Read action at;
    Application; http://www.scribd.com/doc/63660276/pdf- … rm-13-8-25
    Order; http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/636798 … 1b13q56r6k
    Follow progress at Forum site;
    http://www.nbcfund.com/chatforum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1073

  49. Thanks!

    I was wondering what happened to Steve’s case.

  50. Pat 1789 | September 2, 2011 at 9:49 pm |

    bo, holder, napolitano and all the other criminal cohorts should be indicted for criminally negligent homicide at the very least. It is reasonably predictable that providing weapons to the drug cartels would result in the murder of US and Mexican citizens.

  51. Philo-Publius | September 2, 2011 at 9:54 pm |

    It is good to see that cases are finally being brought before the Court upon original jurisdiction.

    http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/few-good-men-by-ea-leo.html

  52. Presidential Debate
    This Monday, September 5th, our friends at the pro-life American Principles Project will host a Presidential Debate in Columbia, South Carolina.

    Presidential candidates and SBA List Presidential Pledge signers Rep. Michele Bachmann, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, Rep. Ron Paul, and Governor Rick Perry will all be participating.

    Herman Cain and former Governor Mitt Romney will also join the debate, where questions will be posed by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), Rep. Steve King (R-IA) and American Principles Project founder Robert P. George.

    Will you tune in to watch and hear what the candidates will say about Life? There are two ways to watch:

    Live-stream the debate from 3:00 – 5:00 PM EST at http://www.Townhall.com (Bookmark this page now!),
    OR watch debate live on CNN from from 3:00 – 5:00 PM EST.

  53. Sheriff for the City of Jacksonville, Fla., Orders all television and radio media stations they are no longer allowed access to their Police-scanners. Breaking News http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/2011/09/02/Controlled-Media!-3600-PD-EMPLOYEES-TOLD-TURN-IN-YOUR-POLICE-SCANNERS-Without-the-ability-to-hear-it-in-real-time-as-its-happening-youre-going-to-have-to-rely-on-them.aspx

  54. Thanks to Citizen Wells for posting a review of my book. His perspective is way different from my own, so I’ll make some comments at some point. But thanks for the review.

    I would invite everyone to actually read the book rather than condemning it (and me) out of hand. It’s honest, factual, and (if I do say so myself) the result of a lot of good research.

  55. Pingback: Citizen Wells: “The Burden of Proof is on Obama.” | Investigating the Obama Birth Certificate Mystery

  56. Citizens Wells’ review now mentioned and linked to from my site!

    http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2011/09/citizen-wells-the-burden-of-proof-is-on-obama/

  57. Project Gunrunner Tied Directly to President Obama

    This article was posted on Big Government, July, 2011, but I don’t believe it is widely known. It seems that a C-SPAN video from March, 2009, is making the rounds anew and it appears that Deputy Attorney General David Ogden AND Obama are definitely linked to the infamous “Project Gunrunner” by Ogden’s own mouth. Note the opening words, “The president has directed us to take action…..”

    (excerpt)
    Ogden is shown in the video that resurfaced Friday as he addresses reporters at a Department of Justice briefing.

    “The president has directed us to take action to fight these cartels,” Ogden begins, “and Attorney General Holder and I are taking several new and aggressive steps as part of the Administration’s comprehensive plan.”
    He goes on to outline that plan, using the exact words below:

    “DOJ’s Drug Enforcement Administration, which already has the largest U.S. drug enforcement presence in Mexico with 11 offices in that country, is placing 16 new DEA positions in Southwest border field operations specifically to target Mexican trafficking and associated violence.”

    “The DEA is also deploying four new mobile enforcement teams to specifically target Mexican methamphetamine trafficking, both along the border and in U.S. cities impacted by the cartels.”

    “DOJ’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is increasing its efforts by adding 37 new employees in three new offices, using $10 million in Recovery Act funds and redeploying 100 personnel to the Southwest border in the next 45 days to fortify its Project Gunrunner which is aimed at disrupting arms trafficking between the United States and Mexico.”

    “ATF is doubling its presence in Mexico itself, from five to nine personnel working with the Mexicans, specifically to facilitate gun-tracing activity which targets the illegal weapons and their sources in the United States.”

    Read more:
    http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/07/12/project-gunrunner-tied-directly-to-president-obama/

    It now seems that the stonewalling that is going on may end up being the bigger crime.

  58. Good morning Zach, et al.

  59. Mr Woodman,

    Obama and his crew insist he was born in a hospital. If so, there is a hospital generated bc. They are moving heaven and earth to prevent this bc, if it exists, from seeing the light of day. What has been shown is not a hospital generated bc. You know that. Now, if a document is being shown that has the word abstract on it, and the powers that be will go to virtually any length to prevent the original document from being seen, then common sense tells you that either a. there is no original b. the abstract does not have the same info as the original, or c. there is further information on the original that is so significant that the abstract cannot rightly, or legally, be called an abstract.

    It is an abstract. It has been slapped together by people sympathetic to him.
    Is this really in dispute?

    What is the point of trying to exonerate this document?
    I don’t get it.

    Will you be working on another book on Obama’s social security number?
    Are you gathering evidence on how his ssn is legit?

  60. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Just another “Book Selling Whore”

  61. rminc,

    It is obvious that there are people that want to dominate and enslave the entire world. bo and the muslim brotherhood definitely have such evil intentions. bo and the UN are a real threat to our liberty.

    I found this article about the bilderbergers. Did you know that John Edwards spoke at the bilderberger conference and shortly thereafter Kerry chose Edwards as his VP? If the bilderbergers have such great power why isn’t John Edwards, the President of the United States?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22957.html

    In 2004, then-Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) attended the Bilderberg conference in Stresa, Italy, and both TIME magazine and the New York Times reported that his performance at a debate there played a role in his selection one month later as the vice presidential running mate for Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.

    But any suggestion that Bilderberg is secretly anointing world leaders or plotting global policy is the provenance of “the black helicopter crowd,” the attendee of this year’s conference told POLITICO.

    The meetings are “one of the least well-kept secrets in the world” and “don’t have any decision-making authority,” said the attendee

  62. http://www.sacbee.com/2011/09/03/3881777/perry-pulls-ahead-of-obama-in.html

    Since his late entry into the race Aug. 13, Perry has surged to the top of six major polls, displacing former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the former front-runner.

    Perry heads to South Carolina on Labor Day for a forum with other major GOP candidates. On Wednesday, Perry will participate in his first debate with his Republican rivals at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, followed by another debate Sept. 12 in Tampa.

    In the new Rasmussen poll, Romney trails Obama 43 to 39 percent. Earlier in the year Romney edged the president by one point. The new poll also found that Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., trails the president by 46 to 38 percent and businessman Herman Cain loses to him 42 to 35 percent.

  63. http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/rick-perry-slams-job-killing-regulations-for-unemployment-report/

    Texas Governor Rick Perry, an official candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, slammed the latest unemployment report on Friday. Perry’s comments were made on the heels of the US Department of Labor’s release of the August unemployment report. The newest unemployment figures show that the nation’s unemployment rate remains at 9.1 percent.

    “President Obama’s job-killing polices continue to wreak havoc on the American economy,” Perry said on Friday. Perry has long been a fan of reducing the number of regulations on small businesses. Perry has found success creating jobs in Texas; a state where 40 percent of the nation’s new jobs have been created since June 2009.

  64. http://news.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20110903as_race_ramps_up_gop_asks_if_rick_perry_can_stay_atop/srvc=home&position=4

    For all that, party insiders say Perry can be a potent and resilient contender if he avoids major missteps. They say that polls and anecdotal evidence suggest he can appeal to a crucial swath of Republican activists: deeply conservative voters who place a somewhat greater emphasis on the economy, especially jobs, than on social matters, such as gay marriage.

    Unlike Bachmann, a three-term House member, Perry can point to a record of robust job creation as governor. Unlike Romney, Perry espouses a long-held anti-Washington, anti-regulation philosophy that doesn’t leave hard-core conservatives wondering whether he’s a soul mate.

    Romney did, however, adjust his Labor Day weekend schedule to add a tea party event in New Hampshire and an appearance with Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C. DeMint, a tea party favorite whose endorsement could be valuable, also is hosting Perry, Bachmann, Texas Rep. Ron Paul and others at a forum Monday in Columbia, S.C.

  65. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/ron-paul-calls-rick-perry-candidate-of-the-week/

    Paul also dismissed speculation he would abandon his Republican candidacy for another party. When asked directly by the AP whether he had ruled out a third-party bid, Paul said, “Essentially I have.”

    “The reason I rule it out, the easiest way, and this is disgusting, because we don’t have a very good Democratic process here. … The Republicans and Democrats write the laws, so they make it very hard to get on the ballot,” Paul said.

  66. “yo” made some comments and asked some questions that I’ll respond to.

    > What has been shown is not a hospital generated bc. You know that.

    I set out to discover whether or not that was true. I would encourage you to read the book, carefully, and emotionally divorced from the conclusion. Unfortunately, quite a few people are now so emotionally invested in their conclusion that they may not be able to clearly reevaluate their position.

    > What is the point of trying to exonerate this document? I don’t get it.

    The statement, “John Woodman has stated and the premise of his book is debunking the debunkers,” is not, in my opinion, an accurate characterization. I will probably explain why more fully later, but the abbreviated version is: I set out to discover the truth. Having invested 3 months of my life into discovering the truth (which included a lot of details on various issues that haven’t been widely known until now), the next question was, “Do I file my discoveries away in a drawer, or do I publish them?” I made the decision to publish them, because I knew that my discoveries would shed genuine light on the whole controversial matter, and because I decided that truth ought to be promoted, even if it may be disappointing and inconvenient to some of us.

    > Will you be working on another book on Obama’s social security
    > number? Are you gathering evidence on how his ssn is legit?

    My full-time work is in the computer field. Many of the important issues regarding the long-form birth certificate are computer related. And, they were issues in which enough information was publicly available for me to attempt an informed evaluation. For that reason, investigating the forgery theories was a good match. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to the information I would need to really investigate the social security number issue. It’s not publicly or legally available. For that reason, I don’t see a pathway for me to do such an investigation.

    Again, I do encourage you to read the book I’ve written, and to do so with an honest, open mind and emotionally separated from the results. Yes, of course I make a few bucks if you buy the book. But honestly, as I’ve said in the description of the book, you really cannot fully understand the Obama birth certificate controversies unless you do read and truly understand the book. I am fully confident in the investigation I conducted, and in the truth of what I’ve presented. And as I’ve said in the book, if anybody produces convincing evidence otherwise, I’ll try and cover that, too.

    Thanks for the questions!

    John Woodman

  67. Obama sticker in urinal draws criticism and laughs KGET TV 17

  68. John Woodman | September 3, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    “yo” made some comments and asked some questions that I’ll respond to.

    > What has been shown is not a hospital generated bc. You know that.

    I set out to discover whether or not that was true. I would encourage you to read the book, carefully, and emotionally divorced from the conclusion. Unfortunately, quite a few people are now so emotionally invested in their conclusion that they may not be able to clearly reevaluate their position.

    ——————————————————

    Mr. Woodman,

    Your answers to the questionable and blatantly false conclusions in your book are disingenuous and evasive and that is putting it politely. bo has never produced a copy of his original BC in any form. All the documents produced by bo’s cohorts are obvious forgeries as has been documented by many legitimate document experts.

  69. CW,

    I appreciate your objectivity but you give Mr. Woodman far too much “benefit of the doubt.”

    Your conclusions are correct regarding bo’s failure to produce a photostatic copy of an original birth certificate. Enough said. bo would have not produced a abstract forgery of his birth record and spent millions of dollars in lawyers’ fees to block discovery of a photostatic copy of an original birth certificate if he had one.

  70. Mr Woodman, explain this.

  71. http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/07/12/project-gunrunner-tied-directly-to-president-obama/

    In a Dec. 3, 2009, article about the announced resignation of Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, the Wall Street Journal’s Evan Perez wrote that Ogden hasn’t been identified with any major Justice Department policy initiatives. Now that this C-SPAN video from March 24, 2009, is making the rounds anew, it appears Ogden’s name — and that of President Barack Obama — is going to be associated with one now.

  72. http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/06/issa-grassley-blast-holder-in-letter-after-secret-meeting-with-atfs-ken-melson/

    Top Republican lawmakers have authored an explosive new letter containing details of secret testimony by acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson, which reveal for the first time the extent to which his agency was involved in an international gun selling scandal.

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, and Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, fired off the letter to Attorney General Eric Holder Tuesday detailing what Melson told Congressional investigators in a secret July 4 testimony.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/06/issa-grassley-blast-holder-in-letter-after-secret-meeting-with-atfs-ken-melson/#ixzz1WuHE5D00

  73. John Woodman | September 3, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    ============================================
    Mr. Woodman,

    Please go to Obama’s birth certificate posted at the White House web site…..
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

    Copy it and then paste it in Microsoft Publisher or Paint or on a Word document.

    What do you see???

    Please explain the white splotches and why did the print disappear?

  74. Pete | September 2, 2011 at 6:41 pm |

    “Hawaiian law states that public display of private records removes the Hawaiian obligation to protect them.”

    Hi Pete or anyone, do you possibly have a link to this law?
    Thanks

  75. Isn’t the answer to the birth certificate in plain sight? The word, “African” for the Fathers Race. Is this somehow allowable even on an abstract version of a Certificate of Birth or Certification? If so. where are all the other documents with Chinesse, Japanesse, Eskimo, Austraillian, South Americain, Pigmy, Asian, Irish, Haitain, Native Americain Indian. Many, many marriages are of differant nationalities and races, who then give birth to a child who recieves a Birth Certificate for the proud parents. And yet, this is the only document of this exception. If not, the obottie’s would have a front-page display on every major newspaper of all the other examples showing whatever race or world continent other Mom or Dad races were just like, “little obama’s”. I see, Mr. Woodman has also looked at the, “African forgeries”. Would these have been also, Lucas Daniel’s Safari Certificate example, if so, I would consider purchasing the computer analysis of his truth’s.

  76. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62572.html

    While the emails don’t contain tactical details of the operation, they do show that the White House was in frequent direct contact with the ATF officials directly involved in Fast and Furious. The exchanges also suggest that ATF officials in Phoenix thought White House officials shared their goals and were acutely interested in the bureau’s work aimed at tackling the flow of guns into Mexico.

    During the the operation, as many as 2,000 guns that agents suspected were headed to the cartels traveled to Mexico. The investigative tactics caused internal dissent at ATF. The discord broke into the open after two guns from the operation were discovered at the scene of the shooting death of a Border Patrol agent in Arizona last December.

    “The committee is examining the role of White House officials in Operation Fast and Furious, including concerns that their interactions with ATF personnel may have undermined the chain of command in a law enforcement operation and increased risks to public safety,” committee spokeswoman Becca Watkins said.

    Another lawmaker who has pressed for more answers about Fast and Furious, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), suggested Friday that people in the White House beyond O’Reilly, Restrepo and Gatjanis must have been aware of the operation — possibly including President Barack Obama.

    “Presumably, people in the White House want us to think only these three people knew anything about Fast and Furious, but if they’re advisers to the president on national security, wouldn’t they be telling the president about important information in our relationship with Mexico?” Grassley said in an interview with Fox News. “Why wouldn’t they be telling other people?”

    The U.S. Attorney for Arizona at the time, Dennis Burke, resigned Tuesday, after acknowledging a series of mistakes by his office “at every level” involved with the Fast and Furious probe. The Justice Department also reassigned acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson this week to a more obscure Justice Department post. No official reason was given for that move.

  77. John Woodman | September 3, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    “yo” made some comments and asked some questions that I’ll respond to.

    > What has been shown is not a hospital generated bc. You know that.

    I set out to discover whether or not that was true. I would encourage you to read the book, carefully, and emotionally divorced from the conclusion. Unfortunately, quite a few people are now so emotionally invested in their conclusion that they may not be able to clearly reevaluate their position.
    ========================================================

    For heaven’s sake, Mr Woodman, the document obama presented to the world says

    ABSTRACT

    right on it!

    Come on! Do i need to read a book to find out if the doc is a real hospital generated birth certificate?

    What are you trying to pull?

  78. Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:
    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Gun to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.
    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  79. yo | September 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm |

    woodman will probably be an expert witnesses for bo after he is indicted for fraud. However, considering the much more serious crimes that bo and his criminal cohorts have committed I suspect that BC forgery and fraud will be the least of bo’s worries.

  80. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45398

    By now, “Gunwalker” and “Fast and Furious” have both entered the national lexicon. And although the amount of information known about the operations varies from person to person, the majority of Americans know they have something to do with the selling of guns to “straw purchasers” in the U.S., who were supposed to smuggle the guns into Mexico and put them in the hands of cartel members, who were then to be arrested.

    What most people seem not to know is who exactly was behind the Gunwalker and Fast and Furious operations. Was it the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives)? Yes. Was it also Attorney General Eric Holder? Well, there’s no doubt he was instrumental in Gunwalker, and it’s now known that his chief of staff was briefed on Fast and Furious. So how about President Obama? What did he know? According to information that has surfaced during ongoing investigations by Rep. Darrell Issa (R.-Calif.) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R.-Iowa), it’s certain that knowledge of Fast and Furious went all the way to the White House.

  81. http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2011/08/14/fast-furious-update-william-hoover-claims-exit-strategy-meeting/

    Short version of Fast & Furious, for those who came in late: the federal government decided to try to fight the spread of illegal weapons sales among Mexican narco-terrorist gangs by… encouraging and facilitating the sale of illegal weapons to Mexican narco-terrorist gangs. No, it did not end well: the guns that were illegally resold often got lost track of, right up to the point where they appeared on Mexican murder scenes (at least one of which was a US Border Patrol agent’s). This scandal has been building for several months, and is now at the point where people are seriously starting to wonder if they’re going to be going to jail for their actions – and how they’re going to avoid that.

  82. Jonah.
    Mr. Woodman provides an explanation for some of the anomalies.
    Bottom line: This is just an image of something. What the something is remains a mystery.

  83. Mr. Wells,

    I’ve copied and pasted many pdf documents from genealogy sites and have never see one come apart. So I’m just curious as to why Obama’s looks so strange and I was hoping Mr. Wood could explain it.

    Just as an example, Missouri provides a wonderful collection of death certificates on the internet, in pdf form.
    http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#searchdeat

    Here is Adolphus Busch’s death certificate. You probably don’t know who he is but many of you drank his beer. He is from the Anheuser Busch dynasty.

    http://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1946/1946_00028527.PDF

    To copy it, left click on the document and then paste it Microsoft Publisher or Paint or on a Word document . Viola! The image is identical.

    So why does the Obama BC look so strange when copied and pasted?
    Mr. Woodman?

  84. http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/www.starpharma.com/Article_2011-08-30-ATF%20Director/id-713d6f06180a4fb7ab6411a759e9f97d

    The operation has resulted in charges against 20 people and more may be charged.

    Kenneth Melson will be replaced as ATF’s acting chief by B. Todd Jones, the U.S. attorney in Minnesota.

    With Republicans in Congress and the department bickering over the investigation, Melson finally testified recently to Hill investigators in private. He said his department superiors “were doing more damage control than anything” and trying to keep the controversy away from top officials.

    Also leaving was Dennis Burke, U.S. attorney in Arizona, whose office was deeply involved in Operation Fast and Furious. Burke will be replaced on an acting basis by his first assistant, Ann Scheel.

    In a related change, the line prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Phoenix who worked on the Fast and Furious investigation, Emory Hurley, was reassigned from criminal cases to civil case work, according to an administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity about the personnel matter.

    The moves are the latest and most significant effort by the Justice Department to address the controversy. In earlier personnel changes, three ATF agents were laterally transferred starting in May from operational positions to administrative roles.

  85. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/09/01/grassley-issa-expand-fast-and-furious-investigation/

    Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) and Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) said they were expanding their probe into a troubled anti-gun-trafficking program, two days after the Justice Department announced a shake-up of officials who oversaw the program.

    On Tuesday, Mr. Burke resigned and Kenneth Melson, acting head of the ATF was reassigned. In addition, an assistant U.S. attorney in Arizona, Emory Hurley, was also reassigned.

    In their letter, Messrs. Grassley and Issa zeroed in on a court filing by the Phoenix office seeking to deny Mr. Terry’s family rights under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, and expressed concerns about conflicts of interest in prosecuting the Terry case. “Since your office directed and approved the daily tactical decisions in Operation Fast and Furious, it is hard to avoid the perception that a conflict of interest exists,” the two wrote.

  86. Why are they building / or built a Barack Hussein Obama Cultural Center in the village of his birth in Kenya, not on an Island in Hawaii? Regardless where he was born, neither of his Father’s were American Citizens. One must have SOLE allegiance to the USA to become CIC of the USA. Keep fighting for truyh and justice. Stay safe, United we Stand, God Bless. TEA, (Truth Everywhere Always) It is beyond time, Little BO peep loses his Sheep.

  87. Why did they build/building a Barack Hussein Obama Culyural Center in the village of his birth in Kenya? Not on some Island in Hawaii? Regardless where he was born, neither of his Father’s were American Citizens, therefore Dual citizenship. One must have SOLE Allegiance to the USA to become CIC. It is beyond time BO Peep loses his SHEEP. Keep fighting for truth and justice, stay safe, God Bless.

  88. Sorry, puter messing up.

  89. questions: has anyone looked into lamberth’s past for corruption ??
    is the supreme court going to revisit eligibility this fall ??
    is there anything i can do with lots of time on my hands in connecticut to chase down the ss # part of the scandal ??
    has anyone confronted bill o’reilly, the self proclaimed champion of the truth, about his statement that obama senior lived in connecticut for years.
    can you elaborate on the occidental college transcripts ??
    is there anything to the pan am flight records ??
    has anyone been able to connect a “money trail” to any of the obots (ie the fogbow hillbillies) ?? tim adams is sure they are on some obama payroll somewhere, i agree.

    i’m fiing for a national parks permit for a birther rally next summer hopefully in lafayette square, do you think anyone would come ?? i will still do it even if i’m the only one there, i’m that sure about obama being correct. i asked jerry a couple of days ago just to be sure, he still believes obama was born in kenya. he agrees with me that this will eventually come out through the court of public opinion/public pressure.

  90. corrupt.. i’m that sure about obama being corrupt, not correct. i’m that sure about us being correct about obama being corrupt. that’s what i meant to say.

  91. i just read again the scalia/occidental transcripts piece. has anyone considered that whobama might have traveled with a fake canadian or mexican passport… or any other country?? when you’re corrupt after all, the sky is the limit..

  92. @ Free Speech:

    > Your answers to the questionable and blatantly false conclusions in
    > your book are disingenuous and evasive and that is putting it politely.

    The first question is: Have you read the book?

    The second question would be: Have you read the book with an open and honest mind, detaching yourself from your desire for the results to confirm what you already think you know?

    If you do so, and if you can genuinely and truly invalidate any of the careful investigation and careful conclusions reached in the book, and show that credible evidence for forgery does indeed exist, then I’ll change my conclusions.

    @ bob strauss:

    I don’t question that Mr. Polland produced a fake replica of a short-form birth certificate for Mr. Obama. Nor do I question that the White House may have picked up Polland’s fake image, and linked to it.

    That demonstrates two things: 1) That Ron Polland is prepared to produce and publicly post a fake document, and 2) that it’s very possible, using Photoshop or other graphic programs, to produce a fake document that looks very convincing. That shouldn’t be surprising.

    What Polland’s fakery fails to demonstrate, though, is that either the short-form or long-form birth certificates presented by the White House are fake.

    I’m not even quite sure what Polland was trying to prove, except that somebody *can* produce documents that look real using Photoshop. But I think most of us knew the power of Photoshop already.

    @ Jonah:

    > Please explain the white splotches and why did the print disappear?

    If I understand your question correctly, this should be pretty well covered in the book.

    > I’m just curious as to why Obama’s looks so strange and I was hoping
    > Mr. Woodman could explain it.

    PDF files are basically a container. You can put all kinds of things into them, and they can be put together in many different ways. When I created the cover for my book, I created a PDF file that contained a single flat image. Obviously, that’s not the construction of the Obama one.

    There have been a whole bunch of different specific questions asked regarding the Obama PDF file. Nearly the first half of the book is dedicated to these. I spend a total of 90 pages, with lots of illustrations, on explaining the many various aspects of what’s going on there.

    @ James:

    > Would these have been also, Lucas Daniel’s Safari Certificate
    > example, if so, I would consider purchasing the computer analysis of
    > his truth’s.

    From what I understand, 1) Lucas Daniel Smith’s certificate misspells the registrar’s name; and 2) Mr. Smith apparently has 5 prior convictions for forgery. I did not consider Mr. Smith to be at all a credible source of information, and therefore didn’t mention him in the book. There were 221 pages’ worth of other issues that I found more credible than Mr. Smith.

    @ yo:

    > Come on! Do i need to read a book to find out if the doc is a real
    > hospital generated birth certificate?

    You need to read this particular book, emotionally detached from the conclusions and prepared to change your mind on the basis of new information. And you need to fully understand the entire thing, if you want to truly understand the controversies.

    So, with the further note that even when a document passes all available tests, it’s at least possible that it still might be a forgery — I think that would mean the answer is yes.

    Finally,

    @ Scott:

    You ask many good questions, none of which have been in the scope of my inquiry.

    Best wishes,

    John Woodman

  93. Mr. Woodward,

    In response to certain questions left here, you wrote in part, “I set out to discover the truth. Having invested 3 months of my life into discovering the truth . . .”

    Excuse me, but there are intellectuals and various experts within our movement who have been religiously dedicated to unearthing the truth for three years or better. And as any academic can attest, three months in the scheme of a research project puts one barley out of the starting gate. Admittedly I have not read your book, but from what I’ve garnered here my initial impression is that you have a lot of catching up to do.

    C.A. Holly

    P.S. Just curious, off the top of my head: 1. Did you pursue the angle of somehow obtaining a copy of baby Virginia’s birth certificate? Better yet, do you know what that means? 2. Did you track down any of the wire service and other print reporters who referred to Obama as “Kenyan born” (when he was engaged in Illinois politics and later when he campaigned for the U.S. Senate) and inquire where they got their information? 3. Did you travel to Kenya and attempt to ascertain from political figures there what evidence led the Kenyan Parliament and indeed the whole country to celebrate the electoral victory of their “native born son” to the U.S. presidency? 4. Has it sparked your interest that when presented with the opportunity on Kenyan soil to put to rest the supposed myth of being Kenyan born, Obama never set the record straight in front of adoring crowds but rather oddly enough remarked on how nice it was to be “home”?

  94. Mr. Woodman, my apology for addressing you just now with the surname Woodward. — C.A. Holly

  95. I now have a response up to Mr. Wells:

    http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2011/09/answering-citizen-wells/

    John Woodman

  96. Just took a look at John’s you-tube video’s. His conclusion as to the why and how the document was produced may hold some weight, though very little. His assumption of how the layers were produced because of a machines optimum enhancement causing variations in the pixels because of anomolies in the document could be true, also. But his conclusion of his checklist falls well short of a solid proof that this explains the documents authenticity, is absurd. So,”let the games begin”. I think all that happened, is the machine, most likely the Whitehouse Copier had a, “Whitehouse Moment”. and so everybody was fooled about the document being a forgery. Maybe instead of the Birth Certificate, we can subpoena the Whitehouse copier. I don’t think there’d be any complaints, though I could be wrong.

  97. @ James:

    Thanks for having a look at the videos.

    Those were produced very, very early in my investigation, roughly 10 days after the birth certificate was released, and only have to do with the basic layers phenomenon.

    Nonetheless, the evidence at that point was pretty indicative that the layers were not likely to be proof of forgery. It was good enough that I was prepared to stake my reputation as a computer professional on it, at a time when virtually everybody in the public sphere was claiming that the layers were “proof” of forgery.

    One problem, however, was that the results were not fully conclusive, and another was that the evaluations in the videos were based on my professional experience and judgment, which many people would take to be subjective, and anybody whose mind is already made up (like yours) could easily discount.

    Later in the investigation, I discovered stronger evidence that led in the same direction.

    In fact, virtually all of the evidence I discovered from the technical point of view led in the same direction. Again, that becomes clear to those who are willing to set aside their preconceived judgments, and read and understand the book.

  98. Bravo, Citizen Wells. Bravo!

  99. john, are you connected in any way to the whitehouse, obama, the democrat party or fogbow ??

  100. Pat 1789 | September 2, 2011 at 8:52 pm | That’s it Mr. Woody ? WTF

    Mr Woodsman I apologize for calling you Mr Woody
    I forgot my own rules

    1. all publicity in the BHO eligiblity case is good publicity
    2. See rule 1

    Carry on

    http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2011/09/answering-citizen-wells/

  101. @scott:

    No, except to the extent that since finishing my book I am dialoguing with people on both sides of the aisle. There’s a thread concerning my book at thefogbow.com, and I’ve posted 3 times in that thread.

  102. John Woodman | September 3, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    @ Jonah:
    > Please explain the white splotches and why did the print disappear?
    If I understand your question correctly, this should be pretty well covered in the book.
    > I’m just curious as to why Obama’s looks so strange and I was hoping
    > Mr. Woodman could explain it.
    PDF files are basically a container. You can put all kinds of things into them, and they can be put together in many different ways. When I created the cover for my book, I created a PDF file that contained a single flat image. Obviously, that’s not the construction of the Obama one.
    =========================================================
    Mr. Woodman,

    The White House could have used a single flat image just like your bookcover and just like the MO Secretary of State’s thousands of online death certificates. The Obama birth certificate has all indications of being pieced together like a picture puzzle, to create one image. Why do that when a single flat image would suffice? Such manipulation strongly suggests false representation of an original document.

    Would you comment on the COLB that was posted by fightthesmears in comparison to the COLB posted on factcheck? The document would have been received from the Hawaii DOH in a legal size envelope and folded in a distinct manner. There are no folds on the FTS document but they somehow appear on the FC document. This is an extremely troubling aspect that lends one to suspect that the two images ARE NOT the same document.

  103. @ Jonah:

    Do you have a good link to the specific images you’re referring to?

  104. Never mind — I know, really, what images you’re referring to. I’ve been working with them all day, in fact.

    And I have made some interesting discoveries, which I will post later at my own site. Stay tuned!

  105. i double checked with tim adams because i was incredulous to hear of this, but here is his email back to me:

    Scott
    Yes, one of the first moves Abercrombie made was to clean house at Hawaii D.O.H. It’s in the local papers (I believe February), following his election.

    this to me is another red flag among thousands…
    tim is going to do some writing for my site as a senior correspondent.

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