Sarah Palin book Literary Hoax, Joe McGinniss email reveals unproved allegations, Author McGinniss used unproved tawdry gossip

Sarah Palin book Literary Hoax, Joe McGinniss email reveals unproved allegations, Author McGinniss used unproved tawdry gossip

From Big Government September 22, 2011.

“Explosive Email Shows Anti-Palin Author McGinniss, Random House Likely Published Literary Hoax”

“The awful launch week for the over-hyped, expected bestseller The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, by controversial author Joe McGinniss, just got worse. Much worse.

After a week of universally scathing pans from the reflexively anti-Palin establishment media, McGinniss now faces the fight of his literary life: the accusation that he seems to have knowingly submitted a book to his publisher, Crown/Random House, that was filled with unproved “tawdry gossip” and rumors that lacked “factual evidence.”

In the email below, sent in January of 2011, McGinniss reveals that his manuscript, then under legal review at Crown/Random House, could not prove its most headline-grabbing allegations. And yet, many of these “salacious stories” that lacked “proof” (in McGinniss’s own words) ended up in the book, and on televisions everywhere during the author’s current media tour … without proper sourcing, and without any apparent new evidence to support them.

McGinniss’s panicked state is evidenced by the identity of the recipient to whom he sent his email of distress. Jesse Griffin was the author of an obscure, low-rent, and now-defunct anti-Palin blog that obsessed over Trig Palin’s maternity–claiming, without any evidence, that Sarah Palin was not Trig’s mother.

Was Random House aware that its prized author was making a desperate overtime bid to save face? And if so, why did it allow him to come forth with most of those tawdry accusations without proof or proper sourcing?

This would not be the first time McGinniss has found himself in trouble over accusations of unethical journalism. In 1987, McGinniss agreed to pay $325,000 to settle a lawsuit brought by the convicted murderer who was the subject of McGinniss’s book Fatal Vision. He has also admitted to having surreptitiously distributed a competitor’s manuscript about Palin that was handed to him by his own publisher. The leak allegedly damaged the commercial viability of that book.”

“From: Joe McGinniss
To: Jesse Griffin
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:15 PM
Subject: I have to ask you for help

Jesse–

Legal review of my manuscript is underway and here’s my problem: no one has ever offered documentation of any of the lurid stories about the Palins. Shailey Tripp is the latest example.

APD and Sarah have denied that Todd had any involvement with her. To my knowledge, no one has provided any evidence that he did. TheEnquirer cites AlaskaWTF, which in turn cites the Enquirer: what good is that? I’m also told that the Enquirer is preparing to back off this story and save face by denouncing Ms. Tripp as an unreliable source who promised documentation she couldn’t provide.

She may be mentally unstable and prone to fabrication, delusion, or both. Her joint may be called Blue Hands Massage (brrrrr!), but she’s no Monica Lewinsky with a blue dress with a semen stain, that’s for sure.

Do you believe that Todd paid her for sex? If so, why do you believe that, other than that you wish it were true?

A lurid, sensational, defamatory story about Todd, based only on the account of a woman charged with prostitution, who is no doubt desperate for money, and who sold her story to the Enquirer, is a gift from heaven for Sarah.

Jesse, you can ridicule Sarah for calling in to the execrable Bob & Mark, but the fact is that as far as this story goes, there’s no there there. And rumors about what might come in weeks ahead are not facts. In fact, they’re garbage.”

Read more:

http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/09/22/explosive-email-shows-anti-palin-author-mcginniss-random-house-likely-published-literary-hoax/

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251 responses to “Sarah Palin book Literary Hoax, Joe McGinniss email reveals unproved allegations, Author McGinniss used unproved tawdry gossip

  1. Perhaps it is time for Sarah to nail McGinnis……big time!

  2. I am for the most electable GOP candidate. I like Perry very much, but if Romney gets the nod, I will support him with enthusiasm. Right now Romney looks like he’s gaining a bit. Polls in South Carolina show him gaining there too. He’s way ahead in NH by double digits which he’s suppose to win anyway, but no one else is even coming close in NH. Here’s another interesting poll. But again, I like Perry too, and was very proud of his pro-Israel speech the other day.

    The Fox News debate should be interesting.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/149612/Voters-Considering-Romney-Obama-Perry.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics

  3. http://www.npr.org/2011/09/22/140680875/the-gop-primary-race-four-lessons-from-florida

    A Quinnipiac University Poll released Thursday morning shows that 31 percent of registered Florida Republicans surveyed named Perry as their top choice, with Romney the pick of 22 percent. The rest of the field, led by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 8 percent, trailed badly.

    Social Security won’t sink Perry.

    Romney in recent days has doubled down on criticism of Perry’s past statements about Social Security. And some Florida Republicans have also hit Perry for referring to the program that provides benefits to the elderly as a Ponzi scheme.

    But Florida Republican voters, it turns out, appear to largely agree with Perry.

    When asked by Quinnipiac whether it was fair for Perry to refer to the program as a Ponzi scheme, more than half of those surveyed said “yes.” And when asked if they believe Perry wants to fix or to end Social Security, 60 percent said the governor wants to fix it.

  4. If the GOP can take Florida, it will be great, FS.

  5. The GOP will take Florida with Perry as the nominee, even if boHillary and soros fund a trump/palin independent ticket.

  6. FS………………….
    I watched the video which you keyed in your 10:25AM comment. What I am about to say is in no way an attack upon you or anyone else. That said, for Perry to say that SS funding is in danger in the future is probably accurate for a number of reasons. BUT……..hade it not been used as a FINANCING SOURCE for wars, Congressional pay increases,etc in the first place, it would probably still be a viable entity. Sadly much of what was STOLEN from SS has to date NOT been repaid. Perhaps it is time for Perry to start demanding that the ILLEGAL funding of past wars, is now due to be repaid, and Congress owes SS a bi9g chunk of change as well, because their 26% pay increases was illegally funded. If Perry has the gonads to take the fight to the perpetrators themselves, then I will stand behind him in 2012.

  7. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/09/22/romney_health_plan_a_bust_for_massachusetts_111436.html

    Health care remains one of President Barack Obama’s greatest political weaknesses. The issue remains an equally serious problem for Republican Mitt Romney.

    President Obama’s program to centralize medical decision-making in Washington remains as unpopular as ever. Insurers are raising premiums and canceling policies. The president’s promise that Americans can keep their existing coverage has turned out to be void. Health care providers and insurers are cutting back operations and dropping jobs to comply with the new law.

    Moreover, ObamaCare has bent the cost curve upward by reinforcing the underlying third party payment problem. The administration even double counted its imagined cost savings, causing Medicare’s chief actuary to warn that the program’s latest estimates were essentially fraudulent. Future Congresses will have to reduce promised benefits or public subsidies, or hike spending.

    No GOP presidential contender officially supported the administration legislation. However, Mitt Romney instituted an early variant of the Obama program.

    As part of his liberal phase when governor of Massachusetts — political principles have been ever-flexible for Romney — he orchestrated passage of legislation with eerie similarities to ObamaCare.

  8. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-quinnipiac-florida-poll-20110922,0,6282386.story?track=rss

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry enters tonight’sFox News/Google debate in Orlando as the front-runner in Florida’s presidential primary, a new poll shows.

    The Quinnipiac University survey shows Perry leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 28%-22%, if former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is included.

    In a sample without Palin, registered Republican voters prefer Perry, 31%-22%. In neither sample, no other candidate registers in double digits.

    Offered the option of only Perry or Romney, respondents choose Perry, 46%-38%, with 12% undecided.

  9. Most people are unaware of how the SS system was conceived by FDR. In the years leading up to WW2 most of the larger insurance companies sold annuities. This dates even before the depression. Annuities are STILL sold by the same companies and they are not a PONZI SCHEME. If you think so then tell that to the insurance companies that they are selling an ILLEGAL PONZI SCHEME…..then notice, and listen to the response. In the late 1960s our beloved LBJ along with Congress saw fit to turn the SS Trust funds into a GOVERNMENT FINANCE COMPANY,out of which much of the Viet Nam war was financed. This is when it became a PONZI SCHEME, perpetrated by no less than Congress,and the POTUS himself. nPrior to that the SS funds were indeed an annuity. So if there is anyone to blame for the continued misuse of SS money you only need to look at the criminal perpetrators who were elected to care for the system. This compounded by the continuing misuse of the funds is where you will find the TAPROOT of the problem. Please remember that $500billion was taken from MEDICARE by Congress,and Soetoro to fund Obama care, and fund the IMF with money to pay for abortions to French whores. Need I say more?

  10. The alleged ACCOUNTING CHANGE which was supposedly put in place late in LBJs term was MOST of the COVERUP of the MISAPPROPRIATION of SS funds. The rest was BLATANT LIES! Everybody was too busy pursuing the alleged American dream to even look at what was REALLY happening.Now everybody wants to get all pissed off and call it a PONZI SCHEME. If you want to get POd get POD at the A$$HOLES you elected to “DO THE RIGHT THING” ….not steal from hardworking taxpayers. But the good news is that if you PAY ATTENTION this time, perhaps you can create one HELL of a GOOD START toward GETTING RID of the SLIME IN GOVERNMENT, and fixing the broken SS system……..in 2012. The LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are going to be handed possibly the worst defeat in the history of the Democratic Party.

  11. MUST READ EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INFORMATION!! PLEASE SHARE THIS OUTSTANDING ARTICLE WITH ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS FAR & WIDE!!

    “BOGUS PRESIDENCY EQUALS MONSTROUS CRIME”

    By Paul R. Hollrah
    September 20th, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “For example, if the “natural born citizen” requirement had not represented a major problem at any time in history, why were Democrats suddenly concerned about it in 2003, 2004, and 2005 when a young black man, the son of an American mother and an African father, was emerging as a rising star in their party?

    Barack Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996, one of 6,978 state legislators in the United States. He served eight totally undistinguished years in the legislature… voting “present” on some 129 occasions… before announcing his candidacy for the United States Senate in 2004. It was in that year, the year in which he was elected to the U.S. Senate, that he was selected to deliver the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention. He was elected to the United States Senate in November 2004 and was sworn into office on Jan. 4, 2005. Almost immediately upon being seated, he launched his campaign for the presidency. In the ensuing three years, he devoted most of his time to his presidential campaign and, on Aug. 28, 2008, he defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

    So the question arises, what did Congressmen Snyder and Conyers know that caused them to offer proposed constitutional amendments in the House of Representatives? More specifically, what did they know about Obama’s presidential ambitions and his inability to meet the “natural born citizen” standard, and when did they know it?

    Although the Snyder and Conyers proposals might have raised some eyebrows if their attempts to amend the constitution had been widely reported and debated, it was not until the officers of the 2008 Democratic National Convention officially certified Obama and Biden as the party’s candidates that it became evident that something was seriously amiss.”

    [...]

    “In certifying the party’s 2008 candidates to the state election boards so that ballots could be printed, only one state, the State of Hawaii, received the following certification from Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travis Germond, convention chairman and secretary, respectively:

    “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though (sic) 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”

    The remaining forty-nine states received the following certification:

    “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though (sic) 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:”

    In each instance, the certifications were followed by the names and home addresses of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. However, only the State of Hawaii, pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §11-113, contained the phrase, “… and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.” Other than that, the two documents were identical… even to the misspelling of the word “through” in the second line of the certifications.

    So what does that tell us? Given what is now widely known about the circumstances of Obama’s birth and parentage, one might conclude that high-ranking Democratic officials… most notably convention chairman Nancy Pelosi… were fully aware when they nominated him that Barack Obama was ineligible to serve as President of the United States, by reason of the fact that he is not a “natural born” citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution.

    The bogus presidency of Barack Obama is clearly one of the most monstrous crimes ever committed against the people of the United States. But what are the chances that the full extent of the crime will ever be fully disclosed? So long as liberals and Democrats are willing to protect him at all costs, and so long as conservatives and Republicans are afraid to challenge him because of the color of his skin, Obama will likely go unpunished. However, if we could ever get the former speaker secured to a straight-backed chair, leaning backward over a large basin with a towel or wash cloth over her face and a pail of water at hand, we would almost certainly learn the truth.

    Just as Khalid Sheikh Muhammad told the CIA everything they wanted to know about the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks, Ms. Pelosi would be just as certain to spill the beans on exactly when the leadership of the Democratic Party first became aware that George Soros and Barack Obama were intent upon committing the greatest political crime of all time… the brazen theft of the American presidency.”

    Read More Here: http://bobmccarty.com/2011/09/20/bogus-presidency-equals-monstrous-crime/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bogus-presidency-equals-monstrous-crime

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    “DEFEND MICHAEL”

    “WRONGLY- IMPRISONED SOLDIER WRITES TO SUPPORTERS”

    August 23rd, 2011

    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/author/bmccarty/

  12. Interested Bystander

    oldsalt79 | September 22, 2011 at 10:57 am |

    I honestly do NOT think Perry has the backbone to do it, but like you IF he does, I will support that.

    oldsalt79 | September 22, 2011 at 11:16 am |

    You are wise beyond your years oldsalt. The sad fact is that MOST here do not believe you when you state that. The Social Security fund is a perfect example of what happens when WE ALLOW the Government to think they know what is best for us.

    IF someone would have suggested when FDR started SS that it would become the program it is today, they’d be vilified and called “radical” or an “extremist” trying to put “fear” in to the people.

  13. “SCANDALS COULD BRING DOWN OBAMA’S REGIME!”

    (Open Thread)
    Posted on September 21, 2011 by Bridgette
    © Bridgette WTPOTUS 2011

    “Government Scandals Galore!
    Let the Indictments Begin!”

    Read More Here: http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/scandals-could-bring-down-obamas-regime-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-62999

    VERY INFORMATIVE Comments under this article are here:

    “Bridgette | September 21, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    September 12, 2011

    TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:

    Today, I am pleased to submit to the Congress the enclosed legislative proposal, the “American Jobs Act of 2011,” together with a section-by-section analysis of the legislation.

    Lastly, this legislation is fully paid for. The legislation includes specific offsets to close corporate tax loopholes and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share that more than cover the cost of the jobs measures.

    BHO

    Page 133

    SEC. 376. FEDERAL AND STATE IMMUNITY.
    (a) Abrogation of State Immunity- A State shall not be immune under the 11th Amendment to the Constitution from a suit brought in a Federal court of competent jurisdiction for a violation of this Act.

    (b) Waiver of State Immunity-

    (1) IN GENERAL-
    (A) WAIVER- A State’s receipt or use of Federal financial assistance for any program or activity of a State shall constitute a waiver of sovereign immunity, under the 11th Amendment to the Constitution or otherwise, to a suit brought by an employee or applicant for employment of that program or activity under this Act for a remedy authorized under Section 375(c) of this Act.

    (B) DEFINITION- In this paragraph, the term `program or activity’ has the meaning given the term in section 606 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000d-4a).

    (2) EFFECTIVE DATE- With respect to a particular program or activity, paragraph (1) applies to conduct occurring on or after the day, after the date of enactment of this Act, on which a State first receives or uses Federal financial assistance for that program or activity.

    (c) Remedies Against State Officials- An official of a State may be sued in the official capacity of the official by any employee or applicant for employment who has complied with the applicable procedures of this Act, for relief that is authorized under this Act.

    (d) Remedies Against the United States and the States- Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, in an action or administrative proceeding against the United States or a State for a violation of this Act, remedies (including remedies at law and in equity) are available for the violation to the same extent as such remedies would be available against a non-governmental entity.”

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    “Bridgette | September 21, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Sovereign immunity in the United States is the legal privilege by which the American federal, state, and tribal governments cannot be sued. Local governments in most jurisdictions enjoy immunity from some forms of suit, particularly in tort. Foreign governments enjoy immunity from suit, as provided in the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act.

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sovereign_immunity_in_the_United_States

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  14. One of the Best Political Ads in History!


  15. Interested Bystander

    On topic,

    But yet FS has posted link after link suggesting that this book was going to be the “end all” for Ms Palin.

    Strangely, FS hasn’t linked any of those articles on this thread.

    Is your behind stinging a little FS?

  16. http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/09/rick-perry-right-about-social-security

    Aside from these lies, Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. The major difference between Social Security and Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme is his was illegal. Three Nobel laureate economists have testified that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme.

    Nobel-winning economist Paul Samuelson called it “the greatest Ponzi game ever contrived.” Milton Friedman, also a Nobel laureate, said it was “the biggest Ponzi scheme on Earth.” Paul Krugman, another Nobel laureate, predicted that “the Ponzi game will soon be over.”

    Three cheers to Perry for having the guts to tell us that Social Security is a monstrous lie and a Ponzi scheme.

  17. Interested Bystander

    FS,

    Your ad in my opinion is nothing more than a Hollywood produced indoctrination piece.

    Where’s the SUBSTANCE?

    The ad gives NO SOLUTIONS, it only admits that there are problems, and how Perry “believes” that with the help of the people, things will get better.

    Sadly that’s what America has become, a Nation of people who read polls and “goes along to get along”. A Nation of people who are influenced by ads that really don’t address the issues, it only identifies them.

    Maybe Perry will come up with a plan I can support, but from what I have seen of Perry, he looks “made”, and not genuine.

    Like Obama, Perry “talks” a good game.

    I just hope Perry can back up his rhetoric.

  18. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/21/social-security-is-a-ponzi-scheme-only-worse/


    NUGENT: Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, only worse

    Young Americans won’t get a penny for retirement unless system changes

  19. Interested Bystander | September 22, 2011 at 6:58 am |
    Although I agree with Cabby that “tapping the brakes” will slow down and minimize the destruction, unless we apply more and more brakes, the car is STILL going to hit the wall.
    The problem as I see it is this:
    We voted in Reagan in 1980 and he sped the vehicle up to 70mph.
    Bush 41 accelerated up to 80mph.
    Clinton took us to 100mph.
    Bush 43 sped us up to 110mph.
    Obama has us up to 120mph with his foot floored.
    Unless we can vote people in that gets us back to 110, and then 100 and then 90……………and so on until we are at a speed we can sustain, then we simply are NOT doing ourselves any good.
    I’m not unrealistic, I understand we can’t go from 120 to 0 in 2 seconds, we have to do it gradually..
    **********************************************
    IB, I like your illustration. Your point about having to apply more and more brakes is just exactly the way I feel, too. If we get Obama out in 2012, that will be just the beginning of the rest of the fight.

    As you say, “we can’t expect to go from 120 to 0 in 2 seconds”. The problem is that in the past everyone slumped back and let the pedal continue to hit the metal, as we went on our merry way. We no longer have that luxury, because we are nearing a catastrophe.

    Query: Can we apply the brakes fast enough to avert the coming collision? “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

  20. http://www.oaoa.com/articles/perry-72578-fact-sound.html

    Many in the media and in politics have gone ballistic over the fact that Texas Gov. Rick Perry called Social Security “a Ponzi scheme.”

    Although many act shocked, shocked, as if Rick Perry had said something unthinkable, he is not even among the first thousand people to call Social Security a Ponzi scheme. Not only conservatives, but even some liberals, have been calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme for decades.

  21. OT, but you might want to check this out (from an e-mail from Floyd Brown):

    “And one thing you won’t hear from the Obamedia is that one of the most important court cases ever in the history of our nation — Keyes vs. Bowen — is scheduled to be heard in conference September 26 by the U.S. Supreme Court.  This lawsuit could very well result in Barack Obama being denied a spot on 2012 presidential ballots across the country!

    Now, an “in conference” hearing is NOT a trial.  This is a preliminary hearing during which the Justices will decide to accept Keyes vs. Bowen . . . or turn tail and run.
    And you simply cannot allow that to happen.”

    Go to this special website set up for more information:

    https://www.pushmailcards.com/shop/demandscotus.aspx?affillink=wnd01

  22. A Few EXCELLENT & VERY INFORMATIVE Comments From:

    “Jan
    September 20, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    OMG look at the Jobs bill, full on DICTATORSHIP. This is vital

    http://commonamericanjournal.com/?p=33283

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    “Drew
    September 20, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    excerpt from: — http://changingwind.org/index/news.php?extend.181.2

    American Jobs Act: “The Illegal Alien & Unemployed Civil Rights Act”

    “…… Persistence it is to “never let a crisis go to waste,” our Illustrious leader puts out a plan in an appearance of moving toward bipartisanship, while assaulting the very fabric of American Government once more. The entire Democratic Party, at this point, is merely a charade, a feigned patriotism, a feigned concern for the American People, anything to be able to pass legislation that destroys the foundation of the American Republic.

    Imagine illegal aliens going to a U.S. Attorney to file charges against Governor Brewer, or any other Governor who has signed an immigration law, on the grounds that the law was used to demonstrate that the applicant was unemployed, and unemployable, due to not being legally in the United States of America. The ACLU would grab these up by the bunch, suing every State, eventually with a class action lawsuit, totally breaking the bank. And that’s just using illegal aliens. [......]

    The American Jobs Act is a set-up, is something that is antecedent to the formation of this “Politburo” super Congress, and therefore should not be given ANY consideration in how or what they cut, either.

    By the American Jobs Act, what you are witnessing, is that 4th Quarter “Hail Mary” football pass in trying to finally destroy the structure, as well as liquidate the body politic, of America and our individual resources to fight back, being carried on by the “Progressive-Terrorist-In-Chief,” to leverage our desire for jobs against our desire to keep our Freedom, hoping we’ll be so desperate that we’ll choose not to keep what is left of the check and balance power of the States. ……”

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    “Jan
    September 21, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Worth repeating

    Section 376 of Obama’s tax and spend “jobs” bill ends state sovereignty, turns our Republic into a dictatorship and destroys the foundation upon which our country was built. The fundamental transformation of America is almost complete.

    “SEC. 376. FEDERAL AND STATE IMMUNITY.

    (a) Abrogation of State Immunity- A State shall not be immune under the 11th Amendment to the Constitution from a suit brought in a Federal court of competent jurisdiction for a violation of this Act.
    (b) Waiver of State Immunity-
    (1) IN GENERAL-
    (A) WAIVER- A State’s receipt or use of Federal financial assistance for any program or activity of a State shall constitute a waiver of sovereign immunity, under the 11th Amendment to the Constitution or otherwise, to a suit brought by an employee or applicant for employment of that program or activity under this Act for a remedy authorized under Section 375(c) of this Act.

    (B) DEFINITION- In this paragraph, the term `program or activity’ has the meaning given the term in section 606 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000d-4a).”

    Here is the link to 42 USC 2000d-4a which defines “program or activity”:
    “For the purposes of this subchapter, the term “program or activity” and the term “program” mean all of the operations of—

    (1)
    (A) a department, agency, special purpose district, or other instrumentality of a State or of a local government; or

    (B) the entity of such State or local government that distributes such assistance and each such department or agency (and each other State or local government entity) to which the assistance is extended, in the case of assistance to a State or local government;”

    Also…
    “any part of which is extended Federal financial assistance.”…

    …Wake up Governors!! Wake up America!! Tell Congress about Section 376 and why they must not pass this bill.

    Obama’s tax and spend “jobs” bill is a stealth move to end state sovereignty and transform what made our nation the greatest country the world has ever known. If Obama’s bill passes, kiss freedom goodbye and say hello to tyranny.

    Read the complete, with an excellent video, at NoisyRoom.net.
    H/T Trevor Loudon where one commenter writes:”

    “1389AD says:
    September 19, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    The US Constitution cannot be overridden by federal law. A federal law cannot waive the constitutional rights of any State or of all of them.
    Sadly, we cannot rely on the Supreme Court to knock out every law that violates the US Constitution.

    Go to the link to read the rest of it.
    http://commonamericanjournal.com/?p=33283

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  23. boHillary demRats are desperate to distract attention from the real issues to irrelevant court cases, braking analogies, annuities, sarah palin gossip, and boHillary bridges to NOWHERE!

  24. A Few EXCELLENT & VERY INFORMATIVE Comments From:

    “Tenacity
    September 19, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    jane, they are already harassing us and stealing from us. We have been paying for protection and not getting protected. It’s time to stand up to the bully. Educate the people in your community to the following: 1) They have the right to judge the law. Send them to http://FIJA.org. 2) Encourage them to do research getting news from websites not associated with lame stream media. 3) Teach others that the Federal Reserve are private banksters that control everything by stealing from us by way of the unconstitutional income tax. They are going to harass us no matter what until we take a stand and hold them to the constitution. 4) encourage folks to read books like, Walls In Our Minds, 5000 Year Leap, Illusion of Freedom, Nullification, Why The Militia & The Creature From Jekyll Island, to name just a few. 5) Push for Sound Money legislation in your State and now at the Federal level thanks to Dr. Ron Paul. We must expect some harassment if we are going to take serious civil action. The idea is to make them fear the people more than the people fear them. Freedom is not free. I could give you a lot of founding father quotes on this but believe you get it.”

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    “drkate
    September 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Here’s the article:

    http://theobamahustle.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/stanley-a-dunham-obamas-grandfather-and-stanley-a-dunham-obamas-mother-shared-the-same-social-security-number/

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    “drkate
    September 19, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    another scam…collecting social security benefits. I wonder if the SSA has a death certificate for stanley a dunham, or two death certificates…”

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    “Jan
    September 19, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    THE SATANIC Denver International Airport Conspiracy! SATAN’S NEW-WORLD-ORDER-AIRPORT”

    http://usahitman.com/dia-conspiracy/

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    “OBAMA’S FASCIST ECONOMY”

    By Steve McCann
    September 21, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “The Obama regime has thrown out the rule of law when it comes to the rights of private investors by their actions against the bondholders of Chrysler and General Motors, as well as forcefully taking over and operating both companies and others as quasi-private entities. They have chosen which businesses will succeed or fail by the taxpayer financing of companies such a Solyndra among a score of others, others of which have failed. The Obama appointees to the National Labor Relations Board are now dictating to companies where they can locate and are attempting to force their workers into unions without secret ballots.”

    Read More Here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/obamas_fascist_economy.html

    * * * *

    “heather
    September 21, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    And what barry and co and the GOP don’t get is: no where in the constitution does it say that the people should fund anything to do with corporations/businesses. NO WHERE! This is all illegal and we need to hold them accountable for attaching our names to their deals!”

    * * * *

  25. Tina | September 22, 2011 at 10:37 am |
    I am for the most electable GOP candidate. I like Perry very much, but if Romney gets the nod, I will support him with enthusiasm. Right now Romney looks like he’s gaining a bit. Polls in South Carolina show him gaining there too. He’s way ahead in NH by double digits which he’s suppose to win anyway, but no one else is even coming close in NH. Here’s another interesting poll. But again, I like Perry too, and was very proud of his pro-Israel speech the other day.

    The Fox News debate should be interesting.
    —————————————————————————————————–

    Agreed 100%

    I hope they mix it up a little on the issues and not waste time on BS.

    Let’s see who moderates this thing.

  26. A Few EXCELLENT And VERY INFORMATIVE Comments From:

    “RRR
    September 16, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    Any county sheriff has greater authority than even the secret service.

    They can arrest the usurper and charge him and put him on trial as well.

    Ann Barnhard did a bit on such awhile back.

    http://barnhardt.biz/

    * * * *

    “drkate
    September 16, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    So, that means that the Sheriff surely has the authority to arrest anyone who submits fraudulent paperwork, maybe even the authority to stop the SOS from putting Obama’s name on the ballot.”

    * * * *

    “JJ
    September 17, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Dr. Kate—I watched Sheriff Mack’s video, and he said any agency—CIA, FBI, IRS agent—calls and gets authoritization from the county sheriff to enter his county.

    He has the authority to arrest any agent, regardless of the organization he/she represents any time he sees fit.
    (paraphrased)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~”

    * * * *

  27. http://drudgereport.com/

    Dow plunges 400 points…
    Global markets tumble 4%…
    ZOELLICK: ‘World in danger zone’…

    GLOBAL MELTDOWN: INVESTORS DUMPING EVERYTHING

    RECESSION ‘LOST GENERATION’…

    6 Million people age 25-34 live with parents, up 25%…
    ——————————————————————————–
    Jobless claims top 400k – again….

  28. Reposted From Previous Thread:

    “ALINSKY, OBAMA: LIES, LIES, LIES”

    By Ellis Washington
    The Report From Washington
    © 2011
    September 16, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “The Alinksy radical has a single principle – to take power from the Haves and give it to the Have-nots. What this amounts to in practice is a political nihilism – a destructive assault on the established order in the name of the “people” (who, in the fashion common to dictators, are designated as such by the revolutionary elite).

    ~ David Horowitz

    [...]

    “Truth was not only relative to Alinsky, it was irrelevant. Alinsky wrote, “An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth – truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing. … To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations.”

    It was Nietzsche who coined the ideas “God is dead” and “will to power.” Once you remove God from politics, law, culture and society, all you need is a charismatic radical leader to fill the void, to impose his will on the people, to be so fanatically devoted to an overarching, controlling idea – the STATE is god and has all the answers to society’s problems (as in the case of every Democrat from Woodrow Wilson to Obama) – that all other issues pale in comparison.

    That’s what Obama’s current $650 billion job’s bill together with his multi-state promotional tour is all about – it’s all lies, lies and damn lies concocted to deceive those whom Lenin called ‘useful idiots.’”

    Read More Here: “ALINSKY, OBAMA: LIES, LIES, LIES” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=345625#ixzz1YFUj78pI

  29. citizenwells | September 22, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    Dow Biggest 2 day drop Since 2008

    http://citizenwells.net/2011/09/22/dow-biggest-2-day-drop-since-2008-djia-down-over-400-september-22-2011/

    ——————————————————————–
    Thanks CW! DOW down 471 pts. so far today. Investors are dumping everything. There is no confidence left in the boHillary Regime.

    http://drudgereport.com/

    Dow plunges 400 points…
    Global markets tumble 4%…
    ZOELLICK: ‘World in danger zone’…

    GLOBAL MELTDOWN: INVESTORS DUMPING EVERYTHING

    RECESSION ‘LOST GENERATION’…

    6 Million people age 25-34 live with parents, up 25%…
    ——————————————————————————–
    Jobless claims top 400k – again….

  30. boHillary demRats are desperate to distract attention from the real issues to irrelevant court cases, braking analogies, annuities, sarah palin gossip, have & havenots, Tenacity, bridges to NOWHERE, RRR, starla and other boHillary BS!

  31. “OBAMA SHOULD BE IN JAIL”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=345557

    * * * *

    “UPDATE: WHY DID THE OBAMA REGIME LOAN HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO SOLYNDRA… AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS EMPTY-HANDED?” http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/09/14/why-did-the-obama-regime-loan-half-a-billion-to-solyndra/

    * * * *

    “OBAMA DIRECTS DOLLARS TO ABORTION BUSINESS”

    http://www.com/?pageId=345577#ixzz1YF7dW34O

  32. Contrary to starla’s BS, the Republicans don’t want bo in JAIL Yet. They want the DUMB demRats like starla to re-nominate bo. Then we will see to it that boHillary and their Criminal Cohorts like starlaare in JAIL where they belong!

    Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  33. “ILLINOIS GOVERNOR’S HAMAS COUNCIL”

    By Pamela Gellar
    Defending The West
    WordNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    September 13, 2011

    Read More Here: “Illinois Governor’s Hamas Council”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=344713

    * * * *

    “WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH SHARIA?”

    “CONFERENCE FOCUSES ON CHOICE BETWEEN CONSTITUTION AND ISLAM’S LAW”

    © 2011 WND
    September 16, 2011

    Read More Here: “What Will You Do With Sharia?” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=345793

    * * * *

    “THE THREE MOST SIGNIFICANT OBAMA ELIBIGILITY HURDLES –
    FROM THIS WRITER’S PERSPECTIVE”

    By Sharon Rondeau
    September 15, 2011

    “THE THREE MOST SIGNIFICANT OBAMA ELIBIGILITY HURDLES – FROM THIS WRITER’S PERSPECTIVE” – Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/09/15/the-three-most-significant-obama-eligibility-hurdles/

  34. Contrary to starla’s BS, the Republicans don’t want bo in JAIL Yet. They want the DUMB demRats like starla to re-nominate bo. Then we will see to it that boHillary and their Criminal Cohorts like starla are in JAIL where they belong!

    Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  35. Thanks CW. Joe McGinniss is a LIEBERAL smear merchant…..everybody knows this. Yet, our resident “conseeerrrvative” FS was using pages out of his book the past several days to smear Sarah Palin. The same Sarah Palin who has done nothing wrong except to energize a part of this country that knows in our hearts that something is seriously wrong with our country.

    ENOUGH SAID!!!!!


  36. demRat paxson is obviously a boHillary PERVERT!
    —————————————————————————
    Paxson | March 21, 2011 at 8:58 pm |

    “Hillary… is looking like Barry frigging Goldwater to me right now. She’s the only grown up in the room and…there is no doubt that she is an American and loves our country…”

  37. http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/study-most-new-texas-jobs-went-immigrants

    Given Perry’s soft stance on illegal immigration, this could give him some problems in tonight’s debate. Byron York has been all over this issue. I’m hoping the Gov. Perry’s answers are a bit more well defined as to what his approach will be with respect to the illegal immigration issue in the rest of the country should he be elected President.

  38. I won’t comment on sarah palin’s troubles, I don’t like her personally, find her annoying and not a good speaker.
    ========================================================
    Romney camp going for the jugular on Perry
    I an R primary , this kind fo stuff is fair game IMO.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/22/conservative-ire-with-perry-runs-deep-reflects-racial-politics/

  39. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 2:48 pm |

    ….and you, my friend, are a fraud! A semi “autistic” one at that. I am no way degrading people with autism, and have known several wonderful people with the disease, but their minds work in a similar fashion as our resident goon.

  40. fo

    of

  41. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm |

    Fair enough with respect to Sarah Palin, we don’t all have to agree here about each individual in our public square. But then again you aren’t quoting known LIEBERAL smear merchant Joe McGinniss (amongst other similar LIEBERALS on other politicians with whom you disagree) to make your point regarding your opinion of her.

  42. Re: Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

    “Contrary to starla’s BS, the Republicans don’t want bo in JAIL Yet. They want the DUMB demRats like starla to re-nominate bo. Then we will see to it that boHillary and their Criminal Cohorts like starlaare in JAIL where they belong!”

    * * * *

    What a degenerated mental and spiritual state you are in FS. I can’t talk with someone who is not in their sane mind currently. Imho, you may possibly be deranged, mentally ill, drunk, or high on drugs, or having a mental breakdown. Please seek medical help, and GODS intervention and try to pray to GOD and ask GOD for your much need healing in the Mighty Name of Jesus.

  43. Starla | September 22, 2011 at 2:59 pm |

    The most disturbing, and perhaps most telling, thing is that he also doesn’t have an ounce of humility.


  44. Contrary to starla’s BS, the Republicans don’t want bo in JAIL Yet. They want the DUMB demRats like starla and paxson to re-nominate bo. Then we will see to it that boHillary and their Criminal Cohorts like starla and paxson are in JAIL where they belong!

  45. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
    boHillary demRats are desperate to distract attention from the real issues to irrelevant court cases, braking analogies, annuities, sarah palin gossip, have & havenots, Tenacity, bridges to NOWHERE, RRR, starla and other boHillary BS!
    ************************************
    In other words, your posts are the only relevant ones – You’ve got a case of something that is antisocial, to say the least. There have been some good discussions here for awhile, and now you have to get cantankerous and start picky, picky. I feel sorry that you seem to be so tormented.

  46. demRat paxson is obviously a boHillary PERVERT!
    —————————————————————————
    Paxson | March 21, 2011 at 8:58 pm |

    “Hillary… is looking like Barry frigging Goldwater to me right now. She’s the only grown up in the room and…there is no doubt that she is an American and loves our country….”

  47. Free Speech, Take a break. Take a walk or a nap, please. Get away from the computer and give your mind a rest for a spell. I mean that kindly.

  48. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    ……DUMB demRats like starla
    ……demRat paxson
    *********************************************************
    Hey, Leo,

    I understand (from one of your long time ‘pals’) that you ran for several elective offices in TN as a DEMOCRAT.

    Talk about the damned pot calling the kettle black.

    …..With much love and hugs from your demRat pal, SueK


  49. Cabby – AZ | September 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
    “In other words, your posts are the only relevant ones…”
    —————————————————————————
    Not at all, there are others who make intelligent posters but U, demRat paxson and LUNATIC starla are NOT among them. It is easy to be reasonably intelligent among MORON demRats like U cabby, starla and paxson.

  50. SueK…except for the fact that I’m fairly certain that Starla is not a DemRat, and I know that I have never voted for one in my life. That’s what makes this whole charade here from FS so disgusting and morbidly humorous.

    HE’S A FRAUD!

    This time, truly…. ENOUGH SAID!


  51. demRat paxson is obviously a boHillary PERVERT!
    —————————————————————————
    Paxson | March 21, 2011 at 8:58 pm |

    “Hillary… is looking like Barry frigging Goldwater to me right now. She’s the only grown up in the room and…there is no doubt that she is an American and loves our country….”

  52. Re: Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Paxson inho don’t waste your precious time on earth and try to
    converse with this very disturbed individual, FS. There is so much work to do on earth! …

  53. I know, Starla. Take care.

  54. Starla | September 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    Re: Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Paxson inho don’t waste your precious time on earth and try to
    converse with this very disturbed individual, FS. There is so much work to do on earth! …

    ——————————————————————-
    In other words demRat LUNATIC starla is telling demRat PERVERT paxson that they are LOSING in the MORONIC demRat DISINFORMATION schemes!


  55. 488 of the 500 DOW Stocks are tanking thanks to the boHillary demRat MORONS!

  56. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm |

    No. Starla was saying that God is on our side because we are good. You have been sent here for nefarious purposes.

  57. Lou Dobbs and Darrell Issa – updates on Obama crimes Fast & Furious, Solyndra and Lightsquared

  58. bill clinton is now saying that Gov Perry is TOO MUCH pro Israel.

    That should help his Lesbian Pro muslim wife! NOT!

    LOL!

  59. Starla | September 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    Re: Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Paxson inho don’t waste your precious time on earth and try to
    converse with this very disturbed individual, FS. There is so much work to do on earth! …

    ——————————————————————-
    In other words demRat LUNATIC starla is telling demRat PERVERT paxson that they are LOSING with their MORONIC demRat DISINFORMATION schemes!

  60. “THE MOSQUE AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE”

    By Pat Boone
    WorldNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    August 21, 2010

    Excerpt:

    “For two years, the president has scarcely noted the National Day of Prayer nor participated in it at all. You’d think a Christian president would be motivated otherwise. Muslims and homosexual activists have been invitees at the White House more than any Christian or Jewish representatives have; odd for a Christian, isn’t it?

    Though the name may be changed, the “Cordoba House” is clearly a clever, intentional reference to the almost four-century conquest of formerly Christian Spain by the Muslims who established the Caliphate of Cordoba and instituted the Shariah society they intend for America. This society gives citizens three choices only: 1)convert to Islam, 2)become subjects of the state, second-class citizens who pay a heavy jizya or tax, or 3)be killed.

    In the Muslim world, “Cordoba” signifies successful conquest, pure and simple. But Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, Muslim founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, says: “For us, a mosque was always a place to pray, to be together on holidays – not a way to make an ostentatious architectural statement. Ground Zero shouldn’t be about promoting Islam. It’s the place where war was declared on us Americans.”

    Besides, why spend 100 million on that place, when the 2010 White House is already serving the purpose?”

    Read More Here: THE MOSQUE AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=193897#ixzz1YiFnajuS

    * * * *

    “WOMAN SUES STATE OVER MANDATORY ‘MARK OF THE BEAST’
    – CHALLENGES REQUIREMENT FOR BIOMETRICS TO GET DRIVER’S LICENSE”

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WND
    Septemeber 21, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “An Oklahoma requirement that driver’s license applicants submit to “biometric” digital photographs – which are “stored and shared” without the applicant’s knowledge – is a violation of religious rights, charges a lawsuit filed against the state’s Department of Public Safety and several individuals.

    The suit names Public Safety Commissioner Michael C. Thompson.

    The state has told the plaintiff, Kaye Beach, that she must submit to the biometric requirement to obtain a license in the state, and there is no exemption based on religious beliefs.

    The lawsuit contends the requirement, however, violates the Oklahoma Constitution because it “substantially” burdens Beach’s free exercise of religion and does not accommodate her sincerely held religious beliefs.

    The case seeks a ruling that “in order to comply with the Oklahoma Religious Freedom Act, the state must provide an accommodation to Ms. Beach … which allows her to submit a low-resolution non-biometric facial photograph in order to obtain a driver’s license.”

    “Whether a biometric ID card in the form of a driver’s license or other government-issued form of identification is the mark of the Beast or merely the long arm of Big Brother, the outcome remains the same – ultimate control by the government,” said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, which is handling the case.”

    Read More Here: “Woman Sues State Over MANDATORY ‘Mark Of The Beast'” http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=347221#ixzz1YiHy4ba3

    * * * *

  61. ..

  62. Starla | September 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    Re: Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Paxson inho don’t waste your precious time on earth and try to
    converse with this very disturbed individual, FS. There is so much work to do on earth!

    ——————————————————————-
    In other words demRat LUNATIC starla is telling demRat PERVERT paxson that they are LOSING with their MORONIC demRat DISINFORMATION schemes!

  63. FS, what is the purpose of the name-calling? Does it make YOU feel better?

  64. “‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ INVESTIGATED FOR VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW”

    ‘THIS ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE TRAFFICKING OF WEAPONS’

    By Michael Carl
    © 2011 WND
    September 21, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., says the Obama administration’s Fast and Furious gun trafficking operation could have violated international arms trafficking agreements and that criminal charges are a possibility.”

    [...]

    “Every single agent we’ve ever talked to has said you don’t let guns walk. In this case, that administration took an active hand in deliberately letting guns walk, so you’re (to Firearms and National Security writer Mike Vanderboegh) absolutely right. We’re looking and saying, ‘Who are the management?’ Who are the higher ups that did this?'” Issa added.”

    [...]

    “[...] We were very happy to see the U. S. attorney’s office in Phoenix relieved of these prosecutions so that we can have somebody not tarnished by actually creating the problem they’re charged with prosecuting,” Issa explained.

    “Yes, we would like to have a true special prosecutor on this, particularly when it’s obvious that if [Attorney General] Eric Holder didn’t know, it’s obvious that he didn’t want to know or because he wasn’t doing his job. That creates a clear pattern of we’d like to know who did know and why they didn’t brief the attorney general,” Issa stated.”

    [...]

    “Issa said Napolitano has some issues of her own.

    “It’s one of the interesting things about the secretary is that she seems to know everything and be running everything unless something goes wrong. It’s been one of our problems as you know that she’s been investigated for her key political appointees,” Issa stated.”

    Read More Here: “FAST AND FURIOUS’ INVESTIGATED FOR VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW – ‘THIS ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE TRAFFICKING OF WEAPONS'”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=347141

    * * * *

    “THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE SOLYANDRA SCANDAL”

    By Jane Chastain
    Politically Direct
    WordNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    September 21, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “If we learn anything from the Solyndra debacle, it’s that the government should not be in the business of making loans, period!

    The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is now investigating the allegations of improper dealings between the White House and the failed energy company. Taxpayers would be better served if Congress simply would vote to end all government-backed loan programs.

    Fat chance! These government-backed projects represent a mother lode of campaign contributions for both political parties.

    Judges are expected to recuse themselves from trying cases in which they have a vested interest. However, our elected representatives have no qualms about sitting on committees and voting on bills that favor their major donors. It is done every day Congress is in session. It is business as usual.

    Admittedly, the Solyndra case smells worse than most. The Bush administration shelved the loan request because the company was too shaky. A couple of months later, despite many red flags from budget analysts, Obama’s energy secretary, Steven Chu, announced the government would give Solyndra $535 million from the stimulus. To make matters worse, last February, when the company was about to go belly up, the Obama administration illegally refinanced the loan putting private investors ahead of the taxpayers.

    Can we really be surprised to discover that Solyndra executives were big contributors to Obama’s presidential campaign or that one of Solyndra’s major investors was Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, a bundler of campaign cash?

    Shocking? Not really.”

    [...]

    “You give me tons of campaign cash and I will give you government money for your pet project no matter how big or how shaky.” That’s how Washington works. We the taxpayers are the poor saps left holding the bag for these bad “investments.”

    Read More Here: “The Takeaway From The Solyandra Scandal” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=347281#ixzz1YiQfJGQP

  65. “‘INMATE’ RACHEL MADDOW: BIG MOUTH, LITTLE COURAGE”

    By Joseph Farah
    Between The Lines
    WorldNetDaily Exclusive Commentary
    © 2011
    September 22, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “I don’t pay too much attention to MSNBC and Rachel Maddow.

    About the only time I watch this kind of programming is when it focuses on me. I usually catch up on YouTube posts, rather than suffer through the tedium and infuriation of actually watching a cable network at which the inmates are quite literally running the asylum.

    One of those exceptions came last week when Maddow performed one of her rants about WND. I invite you to watch it so you can judge the levels of incoherence and incongruity for yourself.

    It starts, interestingly enough, with Maddow focused on my latest efforts in challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for the presidency – a banner asking “Where’s the Real Birth Certificate?” flown over the Republican presidential debate in Tampa. [...].”

    [...]

    “Understand what you are dealing with when you watch MSNBC. You are witnessing a media phenomenon that has more in common with the old Soviet-era, official state press organs Izvestia or Pravda than what we once knew, a generation ago, as American-style, professional journalism.”

    Read more: “‘INMATE’ RACHEL MADDOW: BIG MOUTH, LITTLE COURAGE” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=347173#ixzz1YiT4Hsy0

  66. Cabby – AZ | September 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm |

    I think the purpose of his name calling is not so much to make himself feel better, but to make this forum feel worse. (Which may make him fell “better”.) His M.O. is straight from Rules for Radicals. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, use ridicule, accuse others of what he himself does. I know one thing, he’s no ‘conservative’.

  67. RICK PERRY IS LYING ABOUT HIS CLAIM THAT HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE TARP PROGRAM

  68. Interested Bystander

    FS commented:

    “boHillary demRats are desperate to distract attention from the real issues to irrelevant court cases, braking analogies, annuities, sarah palin gossip, have & havenots, Tenacity, bridges to NOWHERE, RRR, starla and other boHillary BS!”

    No FS we’re anxiously awaiting YOU to inform us of what the REAL issues are. (sarcasm intended)

    Allow me to take these one by one:

    “irrelevant court cases”:

    Like the ones YOU are suggesting using citizen grand juries and such. Haven’t you been suggesting this for the better part of 3 years?

    And how’s that working out for you?

    How many cases do you have pending in the Supreme Court of the United States?

    My prediction:

    IF the Supreme Court decides to hear this case in full session, FS will deem it THE MOST IMPORTANT case in history.

    “braking analogies”

    Yeah like YOU have a better analogy of how best to slow down our speeding towards disaster?

    “annuities”

    Like I commented to oldsalt earlier, “some” people do not understand how Social Security was supposed to work.

    “sarah palin gossip”

    You honestly have the ba!!s to post this comment?

    I think all one has to do is go back for the past week and look who’s been posting Sarah Palin gossip.

    Sorry (not really), but for YOU to post this comment about Palin proves YOU are a hypocrite of the highest order. (and to put it mildly, an idiot)

    My goodness, I don’t even need to go on.

    I believe that 90% of the commentors on here see you for what you are FS.

    Then FS comments this:

    “In other words demRat LUNATIC starla is telling demRat PERVERT paxson that they are LOSING with their MORONIC demRat DISINFORMATION schemes!”

    That’s really funny FS, because the way I, and I believe MOST others on this blog believe 99% of the “MORONIC demRat DISINFORMATION schemes” comes from YOU.

    I honestly do not understand how CW can allow you to continue to comment here especially AFTER he has shown that YOU are full of crap for posting all of those links to McGinnis interviews and excerpts from the book.

    Really FS, how can you with a clear mind post these comments?

    You flip flop almost daily.

    Just last week weren’t you urging Jeb Bush to get in the race because Perry had had back surgery or some such nonsense? Like having some medical procedure done disqualifies you from being President? Next he’ll be informing us that having your tonsils or appendix taken out disqualifies you from running from ANY office.

    You are in serious need of some professional help.

  69. ,,,

  70. Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  71. ..

  72. FS is FOS! We all know this, he’s mentally challenged, deranged and in serious need of professional medical attention. With all do respect, why do you stick around for the abuse? CW is obviously an enabler for some strange reason, who knows and at this point who really cares. Things change dear people. This blog has changed, it does not deserve the support you have given it. The ONLY person this blog supports is FOS (Full of Sh!t). It’s now been over a year that CW allows this deranged character to malign and attack you viciously. Something is not right here, something is very sick here. If you want this type of abuse, may I suggest you hook up with an addict or alcoholic, because quite frankly you’d be treated with more respect. Over and out, I will NEVER be back. You good guys take care, while FOS fizzles out, ALONE!

  73. DreABIGRAGU | September 22,! 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    I will NEVER be back.
    —————————————–
    GOOD! Take the rest of the demRat SCUM like paxson, starla & cabby with you!

  74. Levin: romney is demogaging and he has the ABSOLUTE WORST record on Health Care of any candidate! romney is “SOUNDING LIKE A LIBERAL demRat.”

  75. DABIGRAGU | September 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    I will NEVER be back.
    —————————————–
    GOOD! Take the rest of the demRat SCUM like paxson, starla & cabby with you!

  76. “OBAMA’S FASCIST ECONOMY”

    By Steve McCann
    September 21, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “ObamaCare is not about health care, per se; rather, it is intended to dictate to business and the individual what insurance they must buy, what health care they are allowed to access, and ultimately what behavior is acceptable — all at the whim of a centralized bureaucracy. The Dodd-Frank Bill firmly establishes the concept of “too big to fail” for certain financial institutions, thereby subjecting them to the absolute control of the state while allowing, and in many cases forcing, others to cease doing business, as well as instituting lending and operating policies determined by government regulators.

    The Obama regime has thrown out the rule of law when it comes to the rights of private investors by their actions against the bondholders of Chrysler and General Motors, as well as forcefully taking over and operating both companies and others as quasi-private entities. They have chosen which businesses will succeed or fail by the taxpayer financing of companies such a Solyndra among a score of others, others of which have failed. The Obama appointees to the National Labor Relations Board are now dictating to companies where they can locate and are attempting to force their workers into unions without secret ballots.

    [...]

    A key characteristic of the reality of fascist thinking is rampant cronyism and corruption. Certain capitalists, wishing to ingratiate themselves with the state, are willing to fund the election of those in power in exchange for favorable government contracts and avoidance of regulatory wrath. Recently, much of Wall Street, Hollywood, the unions, major companies such as General Electric, and the super-wealthy such as Warren Buffett are willing to sleep with those in power and be used as props in any propaganda campaign initiated by the Obama regime.

    The Obama administration has, through the Justice Department and other agencies, behaved exactly as many quasi-fascist regimes in the past — almost all of whom have been governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect themselves and their friends from accountability.”

    Read More Here:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/obamas_fascist_economy.html

    A Few Comments Under This Article:

    ” robin27 Yesterday 03:37 AM

    Lets see…What happened to Mussolini? Hitler? Ahhh eventually the people’s eyes were opened, to see the lies, hypocrisy and betrayal! Albeit after invading many countries, losing many millions of Soldiers and, civilians, and then being beaten back and losing yet another World War…over 65 years later and still recovering from! Heres to hoping this complete sham and tragedy ends, sooner than later. Lest we end up, in far worse off situation. Not only with the current POTUS but also with the “Business as Usual” politics of the last 30 years or so. Democracy is GREAT as long as Politicians are Honest. Something we need to start making sure of. ”

    * * * *

    “Expat_Pa Yesterday 04:30 AM

    Of course Obama would use a fascist economic model. Mussolini, Wilson, FDR, and Obama have one thing in common: they all drank from the waters of Columbia’s Political Science Dept. If he had been properly vetted by the press, we would have learned about his interests and sympathies early in life. ”

    * * * *

    ” Questioning Yesterday 04:39 AM

    Excellent essay. I agree that in the end the most damaging legacy of the ‘obama years’ will be the fascist machinery left in place in Wash DC. The next Presidential election will be to see who gets the reigns. And we have to ask ourselves; do we just want another big government statist (even if they are ‘compassionate conservatives’) in the White House or someone who will root out the crony capitalism wherever the trail leads? [...]”

    * * * *

    “red oak Yesterday 06:57 AM

    If Obama can open the eyes of the American populace to the damage done by FDR to this country, and start us on the path to dismantling the federal agencies and regulations FDR wrought upon this country, then he will have been a success. FDR didn’t let a good crisis go to waste.”

    * * * *

  77. DABIGRAGU | September 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    I will NEVER be back.
    —————————————
    GOOD! Take the rest of the demRat SCUM like paxson, starla & cabby with you!

  78. Sadly many of the people who are calling SS a PONZI SCHEME were not even born yet before 1950. Thet is one reason why they don’t have a clue what or how the SS system was concieved. Yes there are variables that heve been attached to the system during the 1960s that the system was NOT designed to handle to begin with. It was originally concieved as one leg of a three legged stool. As an annuity it would have fullfilled the purpose. Other variables includes the fact that people are now living longer. Nor was SS ever meant to handed out to people who never even paid in a single dime. Nor was it meant to be a GOVERNMENT FINANCE COMPANY,and it was handed out freely and is still being handed out to ineligible people. To qualify originally you had to be a member of the annuity,and pay into it regularly. Later it became law that it would be witheld from all paychecks. This action made the system no longer a choice. It became mandatory. I believe that all people who paid in should now have the right to a refund of all that they paid in so that they themselves can administer their own SS funds. But in reality after a period of about 25 years I would be willing to bet that only a handful of those people would still have any funds left either. Most would have already used what they saved originally. Especially given todays circumstances. In reality the young people still would not have a viable retirement system in place by the time they are ready to retire. Social Security can be made only so large. After that people need to have something in addition which they can depend upon to be there qwhen they retire.

  79. “CAN ISRAEL SURVIVE?”

    By Victor Davis Hanson
    September 22, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “Will Israel survive? That question hasn’t really been asked since 1967. Then, a far weaker Israel was surrounded on all sides by Arab dictatorships that were equipped with sophisticated weapons from their nuclear patron, the Soviet Union. But now, things are far worse for the Jewish state.”

    [...]

    “Not now. A soon-to-be-nuclear Iran serially promises to destroy Israel. The Erdogan government in Turkey brags about its Ottoman Islamist past — and wants to provoke Israel into an eastern Mediterranean shooting war. Pakistan is the world’s leading host and exporter of jihadists obsessed with destroying Israel. The oil-rich Gulf states use their vast petroleum wealth and clout to line up oil importers against Israel. The 21st century United Nations is a de facto enemy of the Jewish state.”

    [...]

    “Meanwhile, the West is nearly bankrupt. The European Union is on the brink of dissolving, its population shrinking amid growing numbers of Islamic immigrants.”

    [...]

    “But now a new array of factors — ever more Islamist enemies of Israel such as Turkey and Iran, ever more likelihood of frontline Arab Islamist governments, ever more fear of Islamic terrorism, ever more unabashed anti-Semitism, ever more petrodollars flowing into the Middle East, ever more chance of nuclear Islamist states, and ever more indifference by Europe and the United States — has probably convinced Israel’s enemies that finally they can win what they could not in 1947, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982 and 2006.

    So brace yourself. The next war against Israel is no longer a matter of if, only when. And it will be far more deadly than any we’ve witnessed in quite some time.”

    Read More Here: http://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2011/09/22/can_israel_survive/page/full/

    * * * *

    “ISSA ACCUSES DOJ OF OBSTRUCTING INVESTIGATION WITH AUDIO RELEASES” (Article & Video)

    By Katie Pavlich
    August 22, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “As Issa describes in the CNN report, this is just another attempt, in a long line of stonewalling tactics, to obstruct the Oversight Committee investigation. Why? Because the Justice Department Inspector General is protecting Obama political appointees within DOJ. DOJ has stonewalled this investigation from the beginning and officials within the department, including the inspector general, will continue to do so because they have a lot to hide.”

    Read More & See Video Here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/09/22/issa_accuses_doj_of_obstructing_investigation_with_audio_releases

    * * * *

    Two Comments From Under This Article:

    “Dan_NV Wrote: 1 hour ago (5:27 PM) It isn’t really a case anymore of did someone commit a criminal act, both by intentionally allowing guns to cross the border into Mexico and what is now clearly a cover-up as well, it becomes a question of who knew, and how high does it go.

    The evidence is no longer circumstantial; there was “malice aforethought” in this operation. Something tells me that the rank and file within the BATFE will not be willing to take one for the gipper on this one; the penalties are just too damn severe.

    Consider the utter hypocrisy in all this as compared to the near Kangaroo court mentality in the prosecutions of Border Patrol Agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos for the horrific crime of protecting themselves. ”

    * * * *

    Frank Wrote: 39 minutes ago (6:20 PM) This is Fank from the UK

    Dan we already know there has been a criminal conspiracy, as to how it went that is immaterial at this point, and for the following reason. There is now a concerted conspitacy to prevent the truth of what has happened being revealed and that goes right to the heart of this administration.

    I would urge the President, the AG, the Head of ATF and the Sec. of Home Land Security to remember that the thing which brought dow Nixon, got Clinton impeached and sent Scooter Libby to jail was NOT the overt act but the covert act of cover up.”

    * * * *

    “THE PHILOSOPHICAL TYRANNY OF THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA”

    By Alan Sears
    September 22, 2011

    Excerpt:

    “In China, human rights are not recognized as fixed or unalienable. Rather, they are a benevolence to be given or taken away in response to the mindset and behavior of individual Chinese citizens. Those who are “loyal to the Communist Party” are allowed rights and citizens who aren’t loyal to the party are denied rights.

    To put it another way, instead of a fundamental right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, China has a fluctuating rewards system that favors those who seek the government’s ends over individual liberty. This is a “human rights theory with Chinese characteristics.”

    And this de jure intolerance of the human heart’s desire for freedom is not without de facto imitators around the globe. Ironically, these imitators are often found among those who are the first to demand tolerance for their views and ideas, and they are found in this, the freest and most tolerant country in the world.”

    Read More Here: http://townhall.com/columnists/alansears/2011/09/22/the_philosophical_tyranny_of_the_homosexual_agenda/page/full/

  80. starla is a demRat LUNATIC!


  81. Dang it must be debate night, the fireworks are going off! LOL
    ————————————————————————————————-
    @ Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 2:54 pm |

    My thing with SP is that I think she is more of a celeb than a serious political candidate, the Palin’s should consider a reality show. I wish them well.
    I don’t think she is dumb, just not a good communicator and does not seem to have command of the issues. Everytime I see her on Fox ( when I watch anymore) I cringe.

  82. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 7:15 pm |

    I’m not convinced this commentor is not a computer, spamming this blog

  83. LOL! demRats are losing it!


  84. oldsalt79 | September 22, 2011 at 7:06 pm |

    SS is a pay as you go system, it says so on the website, not an annuity.

    The first people who collected did not pay into the system, for the most part.

    The facts are that there are not enough people paying in now and into the future for those 1 to 50 year olds to collect benefits the same as those that are 51 and older.

    There are 4 solutions IMO

    A. Let it go bankrupt
    B. decrease benefits for everyone to keep it solvent.
    C. Increase taxes on the 18 to 50 folks so 51 and older can get theirs.
    D. Call it what it now is ” The Dole ” and means test it. (canada style)

    What do you think is going to happen if option C is implemented ?
    .

  85. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    I’m not convinced this commentor is a MORON!

  86. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    Manning should get his own show on Fox opposite Sharpton.
    Fox has nothing from Cavuto to Hannity (except for Brett).
    After Hannity nothing until the morning, dead air.


  87. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    I’m convinced this commentor is a MORON!


  88. MUST READ ARTICLES!!

    “OBAMA’S ILLEGAL AMNESTY AND THE DEATH OF A NATION”

    http://www.molokaiadvertiser-news.com/MAN_9-14-11_.pdf

    Excerpt:

    “Barack Obama’s leadership in the BATF Fast and Furious guns to Mexico scandal, and his decision to create amnesty for illegal immigrants violates existing Federal laws, the Constitution for the United States of America the Supreme Law of the Land, and the self-governance of the American Citizens and the States.

    Obama is acting like the Dictator of America, instead of Commander In Chief.”

    Read More Here: http://www.molokaiadvertiser-news.com/MAN_9-14-11_.pdf

    From: “A NEW ARTICLE ON OBAMAFORGERYGATE IN HAWAII”

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=25769

    http://www.molokaiadvertiser-news.com/MAN_9-14-11_.pdf

    * * * *

    * Scroll down to page three of the above link to read alsothis article:

    “WHO CAN ARREST OBAMA?” (On Page 3 – Sept. 14, 2011)

    Excerpt:

    “Who can arrest a sitting President, if he commits numerous felonies or starts working for enemies of the United States of America? Someone please let us know who such a duty would fall to?

    The biased medias and corporate media pawns keep covering for Obama claiming that Fast and Furious was some kind of law enforcement “sting operation” that went awry. The biased print Media in America, including the Mexican billionaire owned New York Times, claims that the Fast and Furious scandal was just a stupid mistake. They claim that very intelligent people managed to do such a ‘stupid’ thing over a period of years involving the CIA, FBI, ATF, DOJ, and at least three high ranking staffers in the White House!”

    Read More Here: http://www.molokaiadvertiser-news.com/MAN_9-14-11_.pdf (Scroll Down To Page 3)

    * * * *


  89. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    I’m convinced this commentor is a MORON!

  90. Why D Rats will lose in 2012, this commie broad is insane !

  91. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    I’m convinced this commentor is a MORON!
    ————————————————————————————-

    I said computer

  92. ..

  93. DABIGRAGU | September 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    FS is FOS! We all know this, he’s mentally challenged, deranged and in serious need of professional medical attention. With all do respect, why do you stick around for the abuse? CW is obviously an enabler for some strange reason, who knows and at this point who really cares. Things change dear people. This blog has changed, it does not deserve the support you have given it. The ONLY person this blog supports is FOS (Full of Sh!t). It’s now been over a year that CW allows this deranged character to malign and attack you viciously. Something is not right here, something is very sick here. If you want this type of abuse, may I suggest you hook up with an addict or alcoholic, because quite frankly you’d be treated with more respect. Over and out, I will NEVER be back. You good guys take care, while FOS fizzles out, ALONE!
    _________________________________
    DABIGRAGU,
    I am sad to see you go. I don’t fully understand why CW continues to support him. I dropped out a little while ago after he posted some very vile comments about me. I wish you the best. Let us know where you are. I have not always agreed with you, but I respect your opinion.

    God bless you.

  94. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:18 pm |

    I’m convinced this commentor is a MORON!


  95. indymac | September 22, 2011 at 5:11 pm |

    Indy, one word, J.E.A.L.O.U.S.Y.

  96. ..

  97. DABIGRAGU | September 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    I will NEVER be back.
    —————————————–
    GOOD! Take the rest of the demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, cabby et al with you!

  98. Jew Hater Bill Clinton weighs in.

    If only Israel would submit to their own destruction would the D RAT party be happy.

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/22/bill_clinton_netanyahu_killed_the_peace_process

  99. In DABIGRAGU’s words, “Something is not right here, something is very sick here.” Are you listening CW?

    From the musical “1776”:

    “Is anybody there… does anybody care?”

  100. Cabby – AZ | September 22, 2011 at 12:49 pm |

    OT, but you might want to check this out (from an e-mail from Floyd Brown):

    “And one thing you won’t hear from the Obamedia is that one of the most important court cases ever in the history of our nation — Keyes vs. Bowen — is scheduled to be heard in conference September 26 by the U.S. Supreme Court. This lawsuit could very well result in Barack Obama being denied a spot on 2012 presidential ballots across the country!

    Now, an “in conference” hearing is NOT a trial. This is a preliminary hearing during which the Justices will decide to accept Keyes vs. Bowen . . . or turn tail and run.
    And you simply cannot allow that to happen.”

    Go to this special website set up for more information:

    https://www.pushmailcards.com/shop/demandscotus.aspx?affillink=wnd01

    **********************************
    Cabby-AZ, Kagen and Sotomayer need to recuse themselves due to conflict of interest.

  101. bob strauss | September 22, 2011 at 8:21 pm |

    This suit ain’t going anywhere, I’ll save my money.


  102. demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, sueQ, cabby et al will be punished. We have identified and located all the demRat PERVERTS!

    LOL


  103. Fifties Star Pat Boone Reveals He’s a Birther: Birth Certificate is a ‘Photoshopped Fraud’

    Pat Boone was a pop sensation back in the 1950s. And now he‘s becoming an internet sensation with his recent admission that he’s a birther.

    Boone admitted as much to the San Francisco Chronicle while attending the California GOP convention.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fifties-star-pat-boone-reveals-hes-a-birther-birth-certificate-is-a-photo-shopped-fraud/

  104. Hey Paxson,

    I know an excellent attorney in your area who would be happy to initiate a libel suit on your behalf.

    One particular individual here has called you ‘gay’ on a number of occasions; we know this to be completely false.

    As you may know, there are four elements of libel and if you can answer ‘yes’ to these four questions, you have a case. They are:

    1. Is there publication-did a 3rd party see the statement?
    2. Is there a defamatory statement-are words capable of defamatory meaning?
    3. Is the plaintiff identified-can people determine who you are referring to?
    4. Is the statement false-would the truth remove the harm to reputation?

    You can indeed answer ‘yes’ to these questions.

    You know how to contact me; let me know what you’d like to do.

  105. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    Jew Hater Bill ClinERn weighs in.

    —————————————-
    It is QUEER that U d0 not condemn the muslim PERVERT?

  106. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 8:35 pm |

    demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, sueQ, cabby et al will be punished. We have identified and located all the demRat PERVERTS!
    _______________________
    SO! You have identified and located me, and now you plan to punish me. How so little man? Sounds like a bonified threat to me. I will be in touch with my lawyer immediately, as well as local and state law enforcement.

  107. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 8:40 pm |

    Yes very Queer

  108. Now you did it FS, are you scared?

  109. Called my attorney, he says it’s ok to libel and insult anonymous internet commentors. LMAO

  110. Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 8:29 pm |

    bob strauss | September 22, 2011 at 8:21 pm |

    This suit ain’t going anywhere, I’ll save my money.
    *****************************************
    There is no way Obama’s two chosen justices should sit in judgement of the fraud who put them on the court. Even an idiot can see the conflict of interest.

  111. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 8:35 pm |

    demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, sueQ, cabby et al will be punished. We have identified and located all the demRat PERVERTS!
    _______________________
    Apperantly CW removed this post because it might provoke lawsuits from multiple people. SO BE IT!

    I saved it.

  112. SueK @ 8:40

    I’m secure enough in my “manhood” to let FS get under my skin with Junior Highschool type insults. What does bother me is his constant use of LIEBERAL pundits, writers, commentators, comics, publications etc. to smear good Republican leaders who may not be in congruence with the FS (douchebag) at a given moment in time.

    Mr. Wells essentially called FS out for his multiple usages of McGinniss smears on Sarah Palin in this very thread post. Unfortunately for FS, he has no humility so it went completely over his head.

  113. Pat1789 @ 7:15

    I can see how you can see this and I have been there myself regarding Palin. She has grown on me, however.

  114. Jonah | September 22, 2011 at 8:36 pm |

    Fifties Star Pat Boone Reveals He’s a Birther: Birth Certificate is a ‘Photoshopped Fraud’

    Pat Boone was a pop sensation back in the 1950s. And now he‘s becoming an internet sensation with his recent admission that he’s a birther.
    *********************************
    Jonah, here’s Pat Boone introducing Orly Taitz.

  115. who wrote these debate questions, Obama?

  116. This Debate is FANTASTIC

    http://live.foxnews.com/

  117. Paxson,

    Please listen!
    ____________________

    Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 8:35 pm |

    demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, sueQ, cabby et al will be punished. We have identified and located all the demRat PERVERTS!
    _________________________

    FS has threatened us. That is against the law. I am exploring my options.

  118. Ron Paul nutter question

  119. Oh here he goes blah blah

  120. romney is a WIMP[!

  121. I wonder if Johnson cleaned my gutters once, he looks familiar

  122. The echo is annoying, poor set up.

  123. Romney looking good so far!

  124. GOV PERRY IS WINNING!

  125. Right hook by Mitt !!!

  126. Free Speech | September 22, 2011 at 8:35 pm |

    demRat SCUM like paxson, starla, sueQ, cabby et al will be punished. We have identified and located all the demRat PERVERTS!
    _________________________

    FS has threatened us. That is against the law.

  127. romeney is a LYING WIMP!

  128. SueQ @ 9:14

    You do what you have to do. Just remember that he is a dimunitive person who isn’t worth the soil on the bottom of my shoe. Every time that he opens his mouth he reveals himself.

  129. Go Mitt, didn’t inhale!

  130. Newt!!!!

  131. Mitt is a likable guy, Pat. Not perfect, but none of them are. Some less perfect than others. All better than what we have. Even Ron Paul.


  132. Gov Perry is WINNING this debate!

  133. The losers are wearing yellow ties!

  134. Perry cheap shot boohhhhh

  135. Mitt’s “Nice try” retort was fairly humorous.

  136. Paxson,

    Doesn’t it bother you that he has “identified and located” us? Doesn’t it bother you that we are going to be “punished”? This is very disturbing to me and very much worth a call to law enforcement.

  137. Newt, good one!

  138. SueQ. I wish he were at my front door right now :) . He’d learn a lesson or two in the laws of physics. That being said, he’s a punk so no I don’t worry that he says he has located me.

  139. Mitt Knock down punch!

  140. Romney is very impressive. Cain and Newt are too. Perry still needs practice. He looks stiff. Might be his back issue, but it is hurting him. Again, he speaks better off the cuff. I still feel that way. All of them are doing well so far.

  141. SueQ, that being said…if I were a woman with a husband as ill as yours is…given the violent history of the man, perhaps we are not in the same position. So I don’t blame you…

  142. Perry , no answer for college education for illegals

    not good

  143. Rick joining in on the ass kicking, Perry is down

  144. This is the best that Santorum has been all cycle.

  145. Gov Perry hit the Immigration Issue out 0f the Park.

  146. Perry needs to answer these questions on his illegal immigration stance. It’s important. I understand that given the proximity of his state to Mexico that he is in a different position. But catering to illegal immigrants to win the Governorship of Texas is not going to cut it on the national level.

  147. Paxson | September 22, 2011 at 9:56 pm |

    agreed Mitt and RS drew blood on that one

  148. Perry’s positions on his state problems with immigration aren’t deal killers for me with him. I just want to know where he stands on a national level.

  149. I wish Cain hadn’t brought up his “9-9-9″ plan a while back. His articulation of a flat tax would be much more serious without the slogan.

  150. Cain is still the man. Not going to win, but I just like the guy.

  151. Gary Johnson is nuts

  152. Perry needs to book up on foreign policy.

  153. Santorum is killing the no war wimps.

  154. Huntsman should be horse whipped

  155. Quit messing with the Military!

  156. Huntsman is a wimp and just looks sleazy. My men fighting overseas won’t like johnson’s 48% cut of the military. Santorum is on fire tonight.

  157. Did Bachman just call Perry a crook?

  158. bob strauss | September 22, 2011 at 9:10 pm |
    Jonah | September 22, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
    Fifties Star Pat Boone Reveals He’s a Birther: Birth Certificate is a ‘Photoshopped Fraud’
    Pat Boone was a pop sensation back in the 1950s. And now he‘s becoming an internet sensation with his recent admission that he’s a birther.
    *********************************
    Jonah, here’s Pat Boone introducing Orly Taitz.

    ===========================================
    Bob,
    Thanks. It is good to hear from those who keep up with the Obama critics instead of reading all the infighting that goes on here at times. It is distracting but I suppose some people deliberately steer us away from serious conversation about Obama the Fraud. It’s obvious who they are, don’t you think?

  159. Jonah @ 10:28

    Just protecting myself, Jonah, and pointing out the massive inconsistencies of a certain individual. We’ve gone over this before, and I know what your position is on the subject. Skip over my posts. But you might miss a nugget or two of insight every now and then if you do, your choice.

  160. Ok, it’s getting boring
    I’m out

  161. Jonah | September 22, 2011 at 10:28 pm |

    Maybe you should sue CW because your expectations weren’t met.

  162. I’m a Herman Cain fan and supporter. I have been since before he started. So no, I was not laid to waste and I’m not really sure what our resident douche was referrring to. But I’m out of here too. FS can play with himself for a while. What a nasty, meanspirited and maniacal person that he is…

  163. Great debate.

  164. Love Cain. Many suggested him for VP at the end. He would be great. 999 is a great idea. Perry was strong at the end. Romney still very polished, and very presidential. In fact, Romney and Cain look most presidential.

  165. Wow. Frank luntz group says Romney won overwhelmingly.

  166. Paxson, I am a Herman Cain supporter, too. It would be an honor to be wasted by him. Free Speech, you are talking out of your head most of the time. Too bad that Perry didn’t do as well tonight.

  167. THE mormon obamney

    The obamneyCare demRat mitt has NO CHANCE of winning the Republican Nomination.

    c

  168. THANK YOU!!

  169. Notice sent to sheriff’s offices in all 50 states.
    Sheriff’s Eligibility ‘Posse’ Sparks Media Whirlwind

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/09/notice-sent-to-sheriffs-offices-in-al.html

  170. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I feel privlidged to FINALLY be included in the group labled “demrat” by FS.

    FS,

    Try IB, all my “friends” refer to me by IB. (saves a few key strokes also)

    Is oldsalt a “demrat” also FS?

  171. Interested Bystander

    oldsalt79 | September 22, 2011 at 7:06 pm |

    I wasn’t born until the 60’s, but became aware of the ponzi scheme’s “birth” in the late 70’s at the age of 18.

    I was interested even then about politics, and the Social Security program was of interest to me because it was the FIRST program of it’s kind. Social Security was an issue when Reagan first ran for President, and I was interested in finding out how the program started. Of course I had to go to a library and actually RESEARCH it. Back then we didn’t have the luxury of having a “search box”.

    I learned exactly what you wrote.

    Excellent job of explaining what SS was supposed to be.

  172. Interested Bystander

    Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:35 pm | commented:

    “SS is a pay as you go system, it says so on the website, not an annuity.”

    It is NOW, that’s not the way it was supposed to be, do your research.

    Then Pat comments this:

    “The first people who collected did not pay into the system, for the most part.”

    Right, but those folks didn’t drain the system like the current crop of people that are getting SSI benefits without paying in are doing. Maybe this chart will help you understand how benefits were paid from the 50’s to today:

    http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/supplement/2010/2a20-2a28.html#table2.a27

    Pat continues:

    “The facts are that there are not enough people paying in now and into the future for those 1 to 50 year olds to collect benefits the same as those that are 51 and older.”

    That’s the point oldsalt, I believe, was trying to make, the program was NEVER started to evolve in to what it has become.

    Pat goes on with solutions:

    “There are 4 solutions IMO

    A. Let it go bankrupt”

    It’s already bankrupt Pat, you point that out in the last paragraph.

    Pat’s next solution:

    “B. decrease benefits for everyone to keep it solvent.”

    That’s the plan NOW, but the spineless Representatives keep going back on their promises. One other part of this solution is to raise the retirement age. I believe that this is simply slowing down the inevitable which is your first solution.

    Pat’s next solution:

    “C. Increase taxes on the 18 to 50 folks so 51 and older can get theirs.”

    That still doesn’t solve the problem of not enough people contributing to the program for the number of people receiving benefits. You’d have to tax them at about the income tax rate to make the program sustainable.

    I don’t think the general public would look too kindly on this solution.

    Pat’s last solution:

    “D. Call it what it now is ” The Dole ” and means test it. (canada style)”

    A bold solution, and one that could work, but it sure doesn’t seem fair that someone pays in to a fund and receives no benefits from it. Isn’t that commonly known as redistribution of wealth? Because you are expecting those who won’t get benefits to pay in to the system until such a time that it is determined that they are worth too much to get benefits, right?

    I just don’t think this solution is “fair”, do you?

    Pat concludes with this:

    “What do you think is going to happen if option C is implemented ?”

    I’m thinking you’d have some pretty peed off 18 to 50 year olds, myself included.

  173. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I think it became obvious last night(if not before) that FS showed his true colors by breaking Ronald Reagan’s 11th Amendment.

    http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservativeopinion/2007/06/30/obey-ronald-reagan%E2%80%99s-11th-commandment/

  174. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – Watching MSNBC spin itself into the ground this AM. They are beginning to realize that the end is near.
    Remember – “MSNBC Is The Rectal Thermometer For Potomac Fever”

  175. >>>oldsalt79 | September 22, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    Sadly many of the people who are calling SS a PONZI SCHEME were not even born yet before 1950. Thet is one reason why they don’t have a clue what or how the SS system was concieved. Yes there are variables that heve been attached to the system during the 1960s that the system was NOT designed to handle to begin with……<<<<

    Oldsalt79,
    You are a wise man. FDR saw the danger of government interference with the SS system and annuities. FDR had the system set up properly. Then along came LBJ, who didn't like to be second to anybody, and poof SS was RAIDED for the grand society. Then, along came Clinton and poof SS was again rolled into the federal budget. Democrats started social security and then they raided and destroyed it by changing the laws later. You are correct that it was SS was set up it was NOT a Ponzi scheme, but LBJ and Clinton stole the money, changed the laws and safeguards, and now it's a Ponzi scheme.

    I basically understood that SS had become a slush fund for socialist projects along time ago. The MISTAKE that FDR made is that he didn't have SS passed as an Amendment to the Constitution, where theft from later congressional law changes would have had to been OK'ed by the states. SS will never last because it does not have any Constitutional safegauards, and a lot of money is involved.

    Pete

  176. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I think the Solyndra scandal will be the final straw that breaks this administration down. MSNBC trying to “POOPOO” this story NOW.

  177. As long as SS remains tied to the General Fund it is NOT repairable. It will CONTINUE to be a GOVERNMENT FINANCE Company,and the funds it contains (very little these days) will continue to be used for everything except the purpose it was intended to serve. When (IF EVER) a little honesty returns to Congress,and the POTUS perhaps then the SS system will once again be RETURNED to ANNUITY status,and LEFT alone. IB got it exactly right. I have watched SS become a monster that was created by people who decided it was their own PRIVATE MONEY SOURCE. I personally think that our younger people have a valid argument, when they say that it is probable that SS will not exist when they reach the age for retirement. However I do not agree that it is NOT repairable. It is only not repairable as long as it remains attached to the general fund. Politicians in general have seen fit to help themselves to it because it IS accessable to them. It needs to be returned to it’s original trust fund (annuity) status,and crooked politicians prosecuted who venture to

  178. aristotlethehun | September 23, 2011 at 1:54 am |
    Notice sent to sheriff’s offices in all 50 states.
    Sheriff’s Eligibility ‘Posse’ Sparks Media Whirlwind

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/09/notice-sent-to-sheriffs-offices-in-al.html

    ———————————————————————
    Excellent!

    Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  179. The debate favored the Frontrunners Gov Perry and romney. The only other candidate to score points was Herman Cain.

  180. Pete…………………..
    It is heartening to see that finally somebody has taken the initiative to reasearch the foundation upon which SS was originally constructed. The younger folks are quick to simply scream the same rhetoric as everybody else with out even taking a few minutes to determine WHY SS now appears to be a PONZI SCHEME. Perhaps the PERRY campaign will take a few minutes to do as you obviously did.

  181. Interested Bystander | September 23, 2011 at 6:10 am |
    Pat 1789 | September 22, 2011 at 7:35 pm | commented:
    “SS is a pay as you go system, it says so on the website, not an annuity.”

    IB said
    It is NOW, that’s not the way it was supposed to be, do your research.
    ——————————————————————————————————
    As usual you come here late to the argument and start attacking not even knowing what you are talking about.
    What do they call that these days trolling?

    We have been over this before.
    It’s not Pat 1789 that says it’s not an annuity, it’s SCOTUS in Fleming v. Nestor 1961.
    Doesn’t matter what it was sold as what Johnson or some other politician did/said blah blah blah, it is what it is , a pay as you go TAX whose benefits can be adjusted or not given at all as congress sees fit.

    Right or wrong that’s the way it is.

    “Many people believe that Social Security is an “earned right.” That is, they think that because they have paid Social Security taxes, they are entitled to receive Social Security benefits. The government encourages that belief by referring to Social Security taxes as “contributions,” as in the Federal Insurance Contribution Act. However, in the 1960 case of Fleming v. Nestor, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that workers have no legally binding contractual rights to their Social Security benefits, and that those benefits can be cut or even eliminated at any time.”

    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5776

    I would like to see some serious discussion in the 2012 campaign what we are going to do about it.
    Passing the buck to our kids because our generation refused to tackle this is disgraceful.

    How come no one is asking D RATS what their remedy is ?
    Why are seniors not demanding reform instead of demanding the status quo?

  182. Free Speech | September 23, 2011 at 8:37 am |

    It’s Romney capitol R

    I like Rick, but he has some work to do if he wants to win this.

    The whole free college for illegals bothers me.

  183. I’m out , have a nice day !

  184. Pete…………………
    There IS hope for our SS system,but it needs to be first returned to it’s original foundation, then as you said it needs to come under Constitutional protection. But….If slimey politicians choose to IGNORE the Constitution then we are right back at square one. We must FIRST CLEAN OUT THE SLIMEY POLITICIANS, and put a number of them in prison for breaching the requirements of the Constitution, which they SWORE to uphold. This screams to be made into a Federal CRIME. If a few people like Chuckey Schummer, Dickey bird Durbin,along with a few other of the slimey politicians on both sides of the isle have their rear ends roasted to WELL DONE,it might serve as a wake up notice to the rest of the poliiticians who are now contemplating getting rich at taxpayer’s expense.

  185. Rick Fairy’s dying campaign.

    “A favorite word to describe the Texas governor: “stumbled.” Perry was clobbered, again, by all sides. But he had trouble at times enunciating his own attacks, such as one toward the end against Mitt Romney over the former Massachusets governor’s flip-floppery over abortion.

    “I like Perry but boy, he didn’t do well. He stumbled,” said former state Sen. Carey Baker of Eustis, who still expected to support Perry.

    Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2011/09/rick-perrys-debate-trouble-and-whats-up-with-the-boos.html#ixzz1YmUEvPAQ

  186. 2 more sheriffs to be asked to review Obama eligibility
    Two more county sheriffs soon will be asked by their constituents to launch investigations into a dispute that already is the focus of a special five-member “Cold Case Posse” in Arizona – the authenticity of Barack Obama’s birth documentation and his linked eligibility to be president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements.
    Read the latest now on WND.com.

  187. Pat 1789 | September 23, 2011 at 8:54 am |
    Free Speech | September 23, 2011 at 8:37 am |

    It’s Romney capitol R
    ———————————————————————————-
    Sorry but I have no respect for romney. If he is the nominee, boHillary will win by running a trump/palin or trump/paul soros funded campaign. As Rush Limbaugh has said Perry and George W Bush both had to make concessions for the Hispanic Voters in Texas. The Texas Legislature voted overwhelmingly for the In-State Tuition bill. Perry is absolutely right about the border fence. It is a RIDICULOUS idea that will NOT work and will NEVER be built. There is NO MONEY for the fence. Gov Perry is right. Use of the National Guard and Drones are the only feasible way to deal with the illegal invasion from Mexico

  188. Pat 1789……………….
    You forgot to ask if I am one of the takers,or a person who is DEMANDING reform. I am the latter,as well as the prior. I am both. This is because you obviously do not believe,or for that matter even care about what the reasons are why it now IS WHAT IT IS…….which I happen to AGREE with in CONTEXT. Yet I believe that it is important to understand what happened that MADE THE SYSTEM into what it is today. Then you will have the understanding exacty where to begin to fix the system. Logically it will NEVER be fixed if it remains attached to the General Fund. I am now 79 years of age, and saw firsthand what was being done by LBJ, and his cohorts in Congress,and I voted against him. You are right otherwise.

  189. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    For anyone interested the Solyndra hearings are now LIVE on C-span3.

    This will be the last straw of the USRPER’s administration. THE WITNESSES HAVE TAKEN THE 5TH!!

  190. FS @ 9:24

    There is no money for the fence, but there is plenty of money for “nation building” in Afghanistan and Iraq? Both of which you support?

    I am in agreement that a “fence” can be multiple things that does not have to be a physical entity.

    With regards to the Texas Dream Act, that Perry supported and still supports, I understand that he took this position based upon the (apparent) will of the Texas public. WHERE DOES HE STAND ON A NATIONAL DREAM ACT? That is the million dollar question that I’ve failed to hear him answer.

  191. bob strauss | September 23, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    2 more sheriffs to be asked to review Obama eligibility
    Two more county sheriffs soon will be asked by their constituents to launch investigations into a dispute that already is the focus of a special five-member “Cold Case Posse” in Arizona – the authenticity of Barack Obama’s birth documentation and his linked eligibility to be president under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements.
    Read the latest now on WND.com.

    ———————————————————————-
    Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for these crimes:

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, “Fast & Furious” Sales of Guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Union Assaults, Election Fraud & Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.), Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign Entities, WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BHO regime to our enemies, and War Crimes in Libya.

    If the politicians refuse to take action then form a Grand Jury:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

    http://forms.lp.findlaw.com/form/courtforms/state/nc/nc000205.pdf

  192. Whether or not SS benefits can be cut off at any point in time is one thing,but repairing the system is another. Childishy lawyers can quote case law,and the rulings of the SCOTUS yet this STILL does not fix the system. All the citing of the Scotus,and case law accomplishes is shoveling manure against the tide. You are doing the same thing that you accuse the older generation of doing. Take the INITIATIVE to FIX the problem instead of talking about what is wrong (PONZI SCHEME). If you believe that is what it is then show us how to fix it ……….put youer money where your mouth is. ………that is exactly what I have been doing lately. I have been researching the future candidates so that in 2012 when I cast my vote, I will indeede have taken my share of the necessary action to repair the failed system. It can be repaired!

  193. The biggest “fence” would be removing the incentives that draw the illegal immigrants to our country like subsidizd education, free health care, low barriers to employment (no e-verify etc). It appears that Texas has made itself a giant magnet for illegal immigration.

    As Byron York pointed out, 78% of the jobs that Perry “created” were for immigrants. How does this help us?

  194. Paxson…………………………
    Here is something to chew on!…Why not create something like the old WPA,and offer ALL of the unemployed in our country a job helping to build the FENCE on the border. It might even become what the Hoover dam was during it’s construction. It was a magnet that attracted workers from everywhere in the US. Maybe if these people get just a little hungrier,and their kids ask them “Can I have something to eat….I am hungry!” Maybe that would provide the incentive for a MASS of unemployed workers to converge upon our Southern border to HELP with the first steps to turn our country around, by accepting a job with the WPA construction of the GREAT WALL OF AMERICA! If China could do it then America can do it much better!

  195. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | September 23, 2011 at 9:42 am |

    For anyone interested the Solyndra hearings are now LIVE on C-span3.

    This will be the last straw of the USRPER’s administration. THE WITNESSES HAVE TAKEN THE 5TH!
    *******************************
    It’s interesting to watch people come up to speed, and learn what the “birthers” have known since 2008, when the bastard (Obama) was running for President, and we all told them, he didn’t qualify, and the entire episode would be illegal.

    Now the illegality includes, sending 1,000 AK47’s to the drug cartels, which I believe have been infiltrated by Hamas, the killing of a federal agent, members of our military thrown in jail, and robbing the U.S.A., of Trillions of dollars. All of this was done, including throwing Israel under the bus, by an illegal federal government, led by a usurper, who’s signature on any document is worthless, and illegal.

    We told you so!

  196. Oldsalt, in this day and age the “fence” would probably be built by the same illegal immigrants that it is being constructed to keep out….

    The real “fence” is policies that removes the incentives for them to come… This is why Perry’s answer is much anticipated. We know his soft stance in Texas, where does he stand as President? Does he support a national Dream Act like he signed in Texas? Seems like he does relative to his answers to date. Why doesn’t he support an e-verify program? Like Gingrich said, AMEX or Mastercard could implement a low cost version of it virtually overnight.

    Seems like Perry’s postions promote a porous border, even though his weak “boots on the ground” argument says otherwise.

    It’s the magnet, stupid…should be the retort.

  197. The only reason why such a venture could not be done would be because the politicians do not want it to happen. If enough people who have hit the bottom of the barrel were to converge upon the Southern border it would probably become a real ARMY of potential labor for the project. If Soetoro is interested in producing jobs out of thin air,then this would be one way to go about it. Yes, like FDR so aptly said ” There will be a chicken in every pot”. Now do our unemployed people have the guts to do it or will they whine and light up another joint, or snort another hit of cocaine. It will be their decision. The GREAT WALL OF AMERICA COULD EASILY BE CONSTRUCTED.

  198. bob strauss | September 23, 2011 at 9:15 am |

    Thanks Bob!

  199. We can never put enough boots on the ground to close the border.

    Also, in terms of religion, I don’t mind any religion for POTUS, but they have to be a loyal American and love our country which includes defending our friends overseas. Obama has proven to me over and over again, he is not a loyal American, witnessed most recently during the 10th anniversary of 911. That’s my humble opinion. Maybe some people won’t vote for Romney because he’s a Mormon, but in my very Southern Baptist neighborhood, I don’t hear complaints about Romney’s religiion. People are more concerned about jobs and the poor economy.

  200. Paxson…………………..
    While I have not yet gotten behind any of the (alleged) candidates, I have not taken ANY of them off of my list. Including Newt Gingrich. You have touched upon something that has been bothering me since day one of Perry’s campaign, and I too am STILL waiting for an answer.

  201. Tina. He says no fence, but says more boots on the ground (not really saying how many or what they will do), while at the same time promoting policies that attract illegal immigration. In addition, “boots on the ground” within the U.S. kind of gives me the creeps. I understand that the border is a different issue, but the U.S. military really shouldn’t be acting as a police force. In fact, it is against the law.

  202. Oldsalt @10:39. I just want the candidates to be clear as to where they stand on issues. They all are better than Obama.

  203. The real “fence” isn’t a “fence” at all. It is removing the incentives for these people to come here in the first place. Herman Cain has a clearly defined position. So does Gingrich, Santorum, Bachman and Huntsman on the issue. All want to remove the magnet.

    Johnson and Paul don’t care. I’d have to put Perry in the Johnson and Paul camps. Although Perry and Johnson would not subsidize these people because they are more pure libertarian.

    Only Perry would let them in the country AND subsidize their existence in our country.

    He is the weakest candidate in terms of illegal immigration.

  204. Sorry..Romney would be in the first group of candidates with a clearly defined position on removing the magnet. Forgot to mention him.

  205. BYE BYE EVERYBODY…………PUT IN MODERATION BY THE CHILD PRODIGY.

  206. boHillary demRat paxson obviously thinks that Perry’s mere signing of a bill passed by an OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of the Texas Legislature will result in the boHillary favored romney getting Republican nomination. As usual, the boHillary demRat paxson is WRONG!

  207. Contrary to boHillary demRat paxson’s BS, Gov Perry has the strongest position against illegal immigration of all the candidates. He is the only candidate who has enforced immigration laws.

  208. The boHillary internal polling must be showing that boHillary will lose in a race against Rick Perry even with trump/palin running as independents. The boHillary demRats desperately want romney to win the Republican nomination.

  209. Tina,

    romney’s mormonism is just one of the many reasons Conservative Christians will NOT vote for him.

    Other reasons Conservative Christians are against romney are: romney is pro-Abortion, pro-ObamneyCare and romney is responsible for destroying jobs in the US. romney is almost as bad as boHillary.

  210. Paxxon – As to the fence, “Catus is our freind”. Ranchers use the variety to form an inpenatrable barrier, as did the “Apache” to keep out intruders. Grows to as high as 30 ft. tall, with spikes as thorns that can easily impale any attempt to breach, ladders don’t get it. http://www.plantcare.com/encyclopedia/ocotillo-2335.aspx

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