Obama FL ballot challenge, Florida advisory opinion, Abdul Hassan and Obama not natural born citizens, Litigation or contested election

Obama FL ballot challenge, Florida advisory opinion, Abdul Hassan and Obama not natural born citizens, Litigation or contested election

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Why did Obama employ Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie, to request an advisory opinion on FEC matching funds that he was not eligible for?”…Citizen Wells

“Why is Obama now employing private attorneys to keep his name on state ballots, despite compelling evidence that he is not a natural born citizen?…Citizen Wells

This article began as a reminder, a plea, for someone in Florida, after the primary, as we were all led to believe, to contest Obama winning the FL primary due to his lack of eligibility as a non natural born citizen. I vaguely remembered someone getting a response from the FL Secretary of State’s office and an internet search returned little. I found an advisory opinion from the FL Election Department in response to an inquiry from Abdul Hassan, the same person who queried the FEC and got an advisory opinion stating that he was not eligible foe presidential matching funds because he is not a natural born citizen. After a request for assistance on this blog, I was redirected back to the Obama Ballot Challenge where I discovered they had reported the Hassan opinion. So, this article will remain a reminder for someone to challenge Obama in FL and as to how this played out from 2008 to the present.

In November of 2008, after reading the Florida Election Statutes, I contacted the FL Secretary of State’s office for clarification and was told that the only way to remove a candidate was to contest an election after the fact.

From Citizen Wells November 24, 2008.

“The state of Florida has a statute provision for challenging the “certification of election or nomination of any person to office…”.

Florida Election statutes

Title IX

102.168 Contest of election.–
“(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or nomination of any person to office, or of the result on any question submitted by
referendum, may be contested in the circuit court by any unsuccessful candidate for such office or nomination thereto or by any elector qualified to vote in
the election related to such candidacy, or by any taxpayer, respectively.

(2) Such contestant shall file a complaint, together with the fees prescribed in chapter 28, with the clerk of the circuit court within 10 days after
midnight of the date the last board responsible for certifying the results officially certifies the results of the election being contested.

(3) The complaint shall set forth the grounds on which the contestant intends to establish his or her right to such office or set aside the result of the
election on a submitted referendum. The grounds for contesting an election under this section are:”

“(b) Ineligibility of the successful candidate for the nomination or office in dispute.”

Citizen Wells verified this statute with the office of the Secretary of State of Florida.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/florida-2008-election-obama-not-eligible-us-constitution-florida-election-statutes-fl-secretary-of-state-kurt-browning-contest-of-election-unsuccessful-candidate-qualified-elector-taxpayer-p/

From Obama Ballot Challenge January 1, 2012.

“Florida SOS’s unsatisfactory answer to Obama Ballot Challenge”

“This (non)response from Florida Assistant General Counsel Gary Holland suggests that since there is no specific procedure to remove an ineligible candidate from the ballot, that it simply cannot be done and that officials cannot even try to figure out a way to do it. So, they would have him wait until the election is over, with the nation waiting with bated breath, while a court action is initiated and litigated. Simply asinine. Florida: what are you paying your overpriced civil servants for?”

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/florida-soss-unsatisfactory-answer-to-obama-ballot-challenge

This is consistent with what I read and was told in 2008.

Florida has a procedure for advisory opinions.

“Division of Election Advisory Opinions

Who May Request an Opinion?

By law, the Division of Elections may provide advisory opinions only to a supervisor of elections, candidate, local officer having election related duties, political party, political committee, committee of continuous existence or other person or organization engaged in political activity, relating to any provisions or possible violations of Florida election laws.
Legal Effect of an Opinion:

The Division of Elections provides a historical database of advisory opinions for reference purposes only. An advisory opinion represents the Division’s interpretation of the law applicable at the time the opinion is issued, as applied to a particular set of facts or chcircumstances, and is binding solely on the person or organization who requested the opinion. A previously issued advisory opinion may or may not apply to your situation depending upon your particular facts and circumstances and the current state of applicable law. Therefore, before drawing any legal conclusions based upon the information in this database, you or an attorney engaged on your behalf should refer to the current Florida Statutes, rules adopted by the Division of Elections, and applicable case law.”

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/opinions/TOC_Opinions.shtml

Abdul Hassan requested an advisory opinion from the FEC in July 2011.

“No, as a naturalized American citizen, Mr. Hassan is not eligible to receive
presidential matching funds under the Presidential Primary Matching Payment Account Act (“Matching Payment Act”).

The United States Constitution provides that “[n]o Person except a natural born
Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President . . . .” U.S. Const. art. II, sec. 1, cl. 5.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/obama-ga-ballot-challenge-fec-hassan-opinion-quotes-natural-born-citizen-requirement-judge-michael-malihi-why-did-obama-refuse-matching-funds-in-2008-part-5-fec-us-constitution-presidential-eli/

Mr. Hassan received the following advisory opinion response from Florida.

“Section 103.021, Florida Statutes, as amended by Ch. 2011-40, § 45, Laws of Florida (2011), governs ballot access in Florida for presidential candidates who have no party affiliation and those who_are the nominees of political parties. Assuming you satisfy all requirements of section 103.021, the Secretary of State of Florida performs only a ministerial function as a filing officer for such candidates. The Secretary of State has no authority to look beyond the filing documents to determine i f a candidate is eligible. The Florida Supreme Court long ago stated: “The law does not give the secretary of state any power or authority to inquire into or pass upon the eligibility of a candidate to hold office for the nomination for which he is running.” Davis ex rel. Taylor v. Crawford, 116 So. 41, 42 (Fla. 1928). I f a presidential candidate (or the party in the
case of a political party nominee) files the required papers under Chapter 1 03, Florida Statutes, which papers are complete on their face, the Secretary must grant ballot access to the candidate. However, the Secretary’s ministerial granting of ballot access would not preclude litigation from proper plaintiffs to remove a candidate’s name from the ballot i f the candidate does not satisfy
the qualifications for the office of President of the United States.”

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/opinions/new/2011/de1103.pdf

Perhaps the following

“However, the Secretary’s ministerial granting of ballot access would not preclude litigation from proper plaintiffs to remove a candidate’s name from the ballot if the candidate does not satisfy the qualifications for the office of President of the United States.”

is stating the obvious. However, in my estimation, it proclaims that the Secretary of State is not the final arbiter and specifically mentions the eligibility aspect. Of course what is left open to interpretation is “proper plaintiffs.”

The Florida Primary takes place next Tuesday, January 31, 2012. Judge Michael Malihi has indicated he will provide a ruling in the GA Obama ballot hearing by February 5 and Georgia Secretary of State Brian P. Kemp has stated that he will abide by the ruling. A ruling in favor of Obama could result in appeals that, even with expedited handling, could drag on for weeks.

We need to have a strong challenge to contest Obama after the primary. In 2008 I contacted and spoke with Bob Barr’s assistant on several occasions to no avail. Let’s get the ball rolling on this initiative.

For more info on a FL challenge:

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-challenge-obama-being-on-ballot.html

 

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197 responses to “Obama FL ballot challenge, Florida advisory opinion, Abdul Hassan and Obama not natural born citizens, Litigation or contested election

  1. I haven’t been around today so I guess maybe everybody has already seen this?

    Judge Malihi Denied Taitz’s Request for Obama’s Hawaii Records: Court Lacks Jurisdiction

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

    Guess that’s not much of a surprise…re: court jurisdiction.

  2. Attorney Mark Hatfield Post Eligibility Hearing Public Statement – 1-26-2012

  3. CW, my 5:13 comment went into moderation….I expected as much since it contains an embedded youtube. It’s Mark Hatfield’s statement post hearing. So once again I’d appreciate your help. Thanks so much for keeping up on everything for all of us.

  4. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Ray | January 27, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    The Dirty “little” Secret Of The Natural Born Citizen Clause Revealed.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the-dirty-little-secret-of-the-natural-born-citizen-clause-revealed/#comment-20850
    __________________________________________________

    This explains our law regarding “Natural Born Citizen” in a nutshell and should now be a required course in High Schools across the nation.
    REMEMBER our dear leader was a lawyer who supposedly understands these laws???

    A MAJOR CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED AGAINST THIS NATION with the help of MANY Corrupted officials. “NOW IS THE TIME for all GOOD MEN to come to the aid of their country.” – An old but meaningful statement.

  5. observer
    Not that much of a surprise, granted, but it does keep things moving in the direction they should be. As JBJD has said, the onus is now on (the one) to produce whatever proof he might have, should he ever want to contest this case. Further, given Orly’s rather slipshod method of presenting her cases, I can’t help but wonder whether or not the judge, in his wisdom, has now shifted the burden of proof where it should have been in the first place, even though it is a bit awkward. This could be an unanswered prayer. IMHO

  6. I have spoken w/ Gary Holland numerous times via email. Like he says, there is a “contest of election” statute (102.168), but no statute to actually judicate the “contest”, and provisions to oust an ineligible candidate only apply to other candidates, and Quo Warranto. The statutes say that the “contest” must be made w/in 10 days after the midnight of the last certification of the primary or election, which is 9 days after the election or primary— so there is a window between the 10-19 days after the primary.
    The venue is Leon Co. Circuit Court. The contest cannot be turned away for “lack of form”, and must be given a speedy hearing. However that’s where any action related to the “contest of Election” statute ends. Basically it is saying that they will listen, pat you on the head, and turn you away.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0100-0199/0102/Sections/0102.168.html

    Judgement of ouster in statutes only applies to other candidates:

    2.1682 Judgment of ouster; revocation of commission; judgment setting aside referendum.—
    (1) If the contestant is found to be entitled to the office, if on the findings a judgment to that effect is entered, and if the adverse party has been commissioned or has entered upon the duties thereof or is holding the office, then a judgment of ouster shall be entered against such party. Upon presentation of a certified copy of the judgment of ouster to the Governor, the Governor shall revoke such commission and commission the person found in the judgment to be entitled to the office.

    (2) If a judgment is entered setting aside a referendum, the election shall be void

    Florida case law though, says that a contest of eligibility is for the “appropriate judicial determination, upon any challenge properly made”
    Cherry v. Stone, 265 2d so., 56

  7. A 33-year-old Phoenix man is being held by sheriff’s deputies in Phoenix in connection with an Internet death threat against Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for his ongoing investigation into the legitimacy of President Obama’s birth certificate.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/27/suspect-ariz-sheriff-death-threat-custody/

  8. If you all would indulge me just one more time today in the interest of clarity.
    As I see it, and for the sake of argument; if you were to apply for a security clearance with a government agency you would more than likely be asked to prove who you were. They agency would not be in the business of gathering whatever personal information you might have, short of maybe a background check of some kind. You are the one seeking the position, therefore you are the one responsible for providing the proof required. The agency then would have the responsibility of validating that proof. If, for instance, you had an agent applying for the position for you, on your behalf then, through the process of agency, they would have to provide that proof. The agency in the case in question is the DNC, because that is the method for candidacy that the states have chosen. Herein lies the problem. The DNC is a national organization presenting a candidate for federal office to a state. The agency relationship exists while providing a nexus between the party, state and federal government therefore, as the federal rules are clear regarding the office, the duty of ascertaining the qualifications of their candidate for office falls upon the party….the party, I believe, at some time, became aware that their candidate did not possess the proper qualifications. By continuing to run a candidate who was unqualified, they perpetrated a fraud upon each and every state, and every elector who relied on their duty to provide a qualified candidate. The implications here are immense………….IMHO

  9. Believe me, I’m curious about the birth certificate too but I am not going to focus on it….it belongs to …”the one”. It is his alone to do with what he wants, whether that be to use it to prove something, for cleaning counters, or just to burn it …..it is his….as it should be.

  10. Thanks Mick.

  11. Mr. Bill….thanks for the article

    Leo had it right….the answer to “natural-born” citizen is very simple. He spelled it out in language that the most common among men can understand,…… and he is absolutely right!

    Why in the hell can’t the politicians, media, and the nay sayers see this?

  12. I think the “no show” in this case with its accompanying supreme arrogance of deciding which court is “worthy” and which isn’t may have been a step too far with a judge. Remember this no appearance came AFTER a warning of “at your own peril”. To slap the faces of both a judge and the state’s SoS in such a blatant manner may just force a wording within the judgement that will be more severe to read by the public about their “one” than a more neutral and unchallenged judge might have entered into the record. I wouldn’t be surprised if zero isn’t betting on thug power at the time of voting that will creat another crisis to force acceptance of “the people’s will” even when their vote is wasted on a person ineligible to be on the ballot. EVERYTHING’s answer will be, from now on, a new crisis to take advantage of and to take control of.

    BTW, did anyone notice how after the “confrontation” between Gov. Brewer and zero he put his hand grip on her shoulder as if to show dominance…like putting a dog in its natural submissive position?

  13. Tidbits: What is being Held Back from YOU! http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/26/tidbits-what-is-being-held-back-from-you/ Secrets are More Often Conspiracies and Shame and Seldom are National Security

    by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

  14. rminnc
    Why in the hell can’t the politicians, media, and the nay sayers see this?
    As I stated above, the implications here are immense…..I don’t think, considering how far this has gone, that I would be too anxious for anyone to know about it. That’s for the ones involved in this fraud…the balance just don’t want to admit what an obvious, horrendously damaging mistake they have made…all others not covered above are communists which, more or less, makes them part of the first group anyway…

  15. coldwarvet | January 27, 2012 at 5:40 pm |

    observer
    Not that much of a surprise, granted, but it does keep things moving in the direction they should be. As JBJD has said, the onus is now on (the one) to produce whatever proof he might have, should he ever want to contest this case.
    ******************************************************************
    Close; but no cigar. Read one of the citizen complaints of election fraud to the state AG in, say, Georgia, in the sidebar of my blog. (Complaints can only go to A’sG in states that require candidate eligibility to appear on the ballot.)

    Never ask Obama to prove he is a NBC. He knows whether he is. Rather, ask someone who swore he was, say, the Secretary of the DNC Services Corporation, in a Certification that went to the S’soS to get the name of the Presidential nominee printed on the ballot.

  16. JBJD
    Read my other comment…I kind of thought I might be close, as the heavy lifting in this case has already been done…hope springs eternal I guess…

  17. “BirtherReport.com/ObamaReleaseYourRecords.com Leads to Arrest of an Obot who Threatened to Kill Sheriff Joe for his Investigation into Obama’s Eligibility”

    “Back in October of 2011 an Obot left numerous comments at this blog threatening to kill various people that have pursued Obama’s ineligibility to be president.”
    ———-
    “Arrest made in death threat to Arpaio”
    by Clayton Klapper/KTAR

    “Cox’s mother confirmed with police that he is an avid supporter of president Obama and police say he has a history of assault.”
    ———-
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/birtherreportcom-leads-to-arrest-of.html

  18. Sam Sewell (The Steady Drip blog) lives in Florida. Why doesn’t he challenge?

  19. What is Obama’s problem with women? It could be Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin or now the Gov. of Arizona, OB is always putting them down. He picked a fight on an old issue when Jan Brewer welcomed him warmly to her state. If the GOP were astute, they might pick up on this as a way to win over women especially when Democrats are the party of women. They shouldn’t have a sexist as a head of their party.

  20. He wants white men to service him and women to worship him. Any that do not are discarded.

  21. excuse me people, I should have brought this here:
    rminnc | January 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm |

    Does anyone on this blog, other than me, feel like all these Republican debates have been designed with only one objective in mind…….to take the heat away from Mr. Obama.

    The debates seem to be the only thing the national news wants to discuss, and they have intentionally pitted one candidate against the other over, and over, and over……….and that’s just fine with the democrats and Obama…….

    Now wouldn’t everyone agree that 38 debates is a little bit of over-kill.

    The Democrats are playing the “Divide and Conqueor” game quite well, and most of us peons don’t recognize this!

    Wake up folks!… Obama is your enemy….not those people on stage in those un-necesssary debates where the candidates are cutting each other to ribbons.

    I think you will recognize I haven’t criticized either of the candidates…and too tell the truth, I only listened to two debates. After that, I knew quite well what their positions were. I do not need constant reminders from Brian Williams or any news source.

    We need to concentrate our efforts on the real villain in this drama….MR. BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA,

    if not, by the time elections comes around, we will be so divided that BOZO, the clown, will go back in office, even if only one state lets him on their ticket.
    ********************************
    You are most definitely not the only one who has noticed. Your thoughts here ring such truth and such common sense it could boggle some minds, that is after all, as you have described, it’s precise intention. Exposing the fraud and his fraudsters IS the focus, the rest is a circus designed to force you watch the show over and over. Thank you ‘rminnc’ for pointing this out…that of which should be the front and center daily, as the rest is merely a sick, sick distraction.
    Aloha

  22. Tina | January 27, 2012 at 9:57 pm |

    What is Obama’s problem with women? It could be Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin or now the Gov. of Arizona, OB is always putting them down. He picked a fight on an old issue when Jan Brewer welcomed him warmly to her state. If the GOP were astute, they might pick up on this as a way to
    win over women especially when Democrats are the party of women. They shouldn’t have a sexist as a head of their party.
    ***********************************************************
    ‘Democrats the party of women’…funny, that’s what they tell their supporters over and over, however it is they and Barry who support a cult that treats women worse than any African slave was ever treated. Real men and women do not support the ravaging, brutality and utter disrespect of the opposite sex irregardless of an alleged religion. I don’t know if we can count on any ‘party’ to be this astute, Tina. They’re too interesting in performing like circus animals on stage.

  23. Let them have it out like gladiators. The last man on that stage will mop the floor with the usurper. And, by the way, there are “four” not “two” contenders at this point.

    My guess is that who ever it is, they will not be facing Obama. More likely, they will be up against Billary.

  24. You’re right Ray, there are 4. You’d never know it by the media would you.

  25. Had to share this post from misscheryl over at Michelle Malkin’s

    This says a lot, and it reinforces my faith in Sara Palin. A Must Read.

    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150516734848435

  26. Ray | January 28, 2012 at 1:42 am |

    Had to share this post from misscheryl over at Michelle Malkin’s

    This says a lot, and it reinforces my faith in Sara Palin. A Must Read.
    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150516734848435
    *******************
    Excellent, thank you.

  27. DABIGRAGU | January 28, 2012 at 2:35 am |
    Long time no see!! I agree with you and Ray about Sarah Palin’s Facebook article. How are things going in the Islands?

  28. The Republican Establishment’s Last Desperate Push: Mitch Daniels Again
    (Excerpts)
    Daniels’ speech referred to himself and his followers as the “loyal opposition,” twice. “The status of ‘loyal opposition’ imposes on those out of power some serious responsibilities,” he intoned. Not the least of these is “to show respect for the presidency and its occupant, to express agreement where it exists. Republicans tonight salute our president, for instance, for his aggressive pursuit of the murderers of 9/11.” [1]

    Eschewing any ideological differences and downplaying the gulf separating the two parties, Daniels said, “The challenges aren’t matters of ideology, or party preference; the problems are simply mathematical, and the answers are purely practical.” This calls to mind another former governor turned presidential candidate: Michael Dukakis. In his 1988 convention speech, Dukakis said, “This election isn’t about ideology. It’s about competence.” A bland, technocratic governor was a loser then (thank God), and would be a loser again today.

    Read more:
    http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/the-republican-establishments-last-desperate-push-mitch-daniels-again/

  29. In re reading all of the ethics committee’s charges against Newt Gingrich, it is easy to see that he was RAILROADED. In the first place he was later found innocent of the charges by the IRS, and to be forced to pay for the investigative costs is complete BULLSH#T. If anybody is liable for the cost of the investigation it should have been the PERSON WHO CONCOCTED the story in the first place who was the LUNATIC who played COOTER in the DUKES OF HAZARD. It was he who went to the LIBS with the story. He hated Gingriche’s guts. It was this person who rightfully should have been forced to re imburse the Government.

  30. Hmmmmmmm? Bush, the Elder and Jeb make an unscheduled visit to the White House. IIRC didn’t Papa Bush make a similar visit to BO a year or two ago? I wonder what’s up?……………..

    Obama hosts George H.W. and Jeb Bush at White House

    Unbeknownst to the press, President Obama met Friday evening with former president George H.W. Bush and his son, former Florida governor Jeb Bush, in the Oval Office.

    White House officials did not list the meeting on the president’s schedule but released a photo on Flickr. According to the photo’s time stamp, the meeting occurred shortly after 5 p.m., about the time the president returned to the White House from a fundraiser.

    When asked what the men discussed and why it wasn’t on the schedule, the White House released a statement saying, “The three men enjoyed a personal visit in the Oval Office – as they have done on previous occasions when President Bush is Washington.”

    The Bushes are in town to attend the exclusive Alfalfa Club dinner Saturday, an annual get-together for Washington power brokers that Obama also is scheduled to attend, according to the Associated Press.

    The meeting came at an interesting time politically, just one day after Obama, in an interview with ABC News, blamed predecessor George W. Bush for policies that brought on the greatest recession since the Great Depression. He also blamed him for initiating the expansion of food stamp rolls.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/obama-hosts-george-hw-and-jeb-bush-at-white-house-112638.html

  31. Jonah, there is just a bit too much coziness with those three to suit me. When you understand what the occupant of the W.H. has done and is doing to our country, how could you want to “visit” with him? We would have a terrible time covering up our disdain and repudiation if we were forced to be in his presence.

  32. Cabby AZ………………..
    Anyone who thinks Daniels is presidential material had better have their head examined. He has proven himself to be a real PUSS#. I doubt that he would be capable of even put a nick in the Soetoro armor. But I have no other issues relating to Daniels.

  33. As I said yesterday the thought of Newt Gingrich being potentially the next potus has ALL of the SLIMEY LIBERALS REALLY WORRIED. ESPECIALLY THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE INVESTIGATION. They KNOW that he will pick them off one at a time, and laugh as he does it. Go get EM NEWT,SIC EM.

  34. Cabby – AZ | January 28, 2012 at 3:54 am |
    ==================================
    George and Jeb made a similar visit to BO two years ago. I wonder if the social calls are friendly or coersive? Would I love to be a fly on the wall. :-)
    - – - – -
    January 30th, 2010
    George H. W. Bush visits White House

    Former President George H. W. Bush met with President Obama Saturday at the White House.

    Washington (CNN) – Former President George H. W. Bush returned to the White House for a rare Saturday morning meeting with President Barack Obama in the Oval Office, but administration officials said no specific issue was on the agenda.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/30/george-h-w-bush-visits-white-house/

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  36. I can smell the New World Order stinch from here. Texas, that is.

  37. As an outsider who remembers when Gingrich was Speaker….. well not everything….. he was the one who push Clinton to the centre. The budget that “saved” Clinton was Gingrich’s budget.

    For years I had heard that there was baggage associated with Gingrich, but now it turns out that the ethics charges were bogus… he was Palinized… a la the Alinsky methods. Romney is using Alinsky tactics against Newt.

    After considering what is coming out, especially where Newt has performed better in debates, Newt is the Reagan man. I have heard people saying that they want a Reaganite in the White House. Newt is the one.

    One can ignore comments about living on the moon or even Mars. That is just a pipe dream… wishful thinking… what it really means is that NASA will return to the knitting… in other words NASA will do what NASA is supposed to be doing with outer space exploration, which is not happening since Østupid came to power.

    BTW… keep an eye out for ethics complaints against Senator Dianne Feinstein. I am not saying that she is guilty of ethics violations, just that she is being accused of ethics violations. If you have not been keeping up with the Ulsterman Report, then I suggest that you have a good read of the White House Insider reports because it is explosive!!

  38. Does anyone know how to get on the Gingrich Moon colonization list ?

    I hope Newt doesn’t throw in the towel too fast, we need him and Ron Paul to stick around for awhile.

  39. “If you have not been keeping up with the Ulsterman Report, then I suggest that you have a good read of the White House Insider reports because it is explosive!!”
    —————————————————————————————–
    Yes good reading along with the Globe, Enquirer and other supermarket rags.

  40. “Newt is the one.”
    ————————————–

    Thats not what his ex wives say. Newt = Slick Willy

  41. “As I said yesterday the thought of Newt Gingrich being potentially the next potus has ALL of the SLIMEY LIBERALS REALLY WORRIED.”
    —————————————————————–

    The Libs want Negative Newt. He’s a loser for sure in the general election.

    Get a clue.

  42. Newt is the slimy one. And why is he always so sweaty? I thought looks matter, Tina? LOL
    Newt is a total insider, business as usual. Newt cares only for himself and he’ll do whatever he can to self aggrandize. He chooses wives by how good they would look as first ladies just to promote himself.
    Character matters!

  43. Good Morning!

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2839192/posts

    Tea Party Leaders Endorse Gingrich: High Risk, Low Reward
    Sunshine State News ^ | January 28, 2012 | Kenric Ward

    Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:54:50 AM by Cincinatus’ Wife

    In throwing their support to Newt Gingrich, a group of Florida tea party leaders risk throwing away their clout and credibility, observers of the movement say.

    “The Florida Tea Party Coalition With Newt” endorsed the former House speaker on Thursday, saying they would “help defeat Massachusetts Moderate Mitt Romney and then President Barack Obama.”

    “It is clear to me and many others in the tea party movement that Newt is the Reagan conservative that America needs,” said Peter Lee, founder and director of the East Side Tea Party of Orlando.

    Lee was joined by statewide tea leader Patricia Sullivan, who said, “I stand with Newt because I know he will stand up to the establishment and insist on fiscal reforms.”

    In all, more than 30 Florida-based tea activists signed on to the coalition. The geographically diverse representatives ranged from the Panhandle to Broward County.

    Separately, the TEA Party of Florida, the only political tea party registered with the state Division of Elections, endorsed Gingrich.

  44. Unfortunately Newt IS the establishment. But not the conservative establishment. He is for universal healthcare and stood with Pelosi for a global warming tax on your carbon usage, the very air you exhale.

  45. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2839085/posts

    Sarah Palin: Newt Gingrich’s secret weapon
    The Politico ^ | January 27, 2012 | Ginger Gibson

    Posted on Friday, January 27, 2012 8:45:21 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

    Newt Gingrich has a new unofficial campaign surrogate and her name is Sarah Palin.

    As the 2008 veep nominee sees it, Gingrich is getting a raw deal from the national media and conservative elite, the very same forces who conspired against her when she was on the national ticket. Palin hasn’t endorsed Gingrich — and has no official role in his campaign — but she is repeatedly surfacing at just the right times on the national airwaves to vociferously defend him.

    In her latest appearance, Palin stated: “Look at Newt Gingrich, what’s going on with him via the establishment’s attacks,” she said, though the original question was about Ron Paul. “They’re trying to crucify this man and rewrite history and rewrite what it is that he has stood for all these years.” ….

  46. http://gulagbound.com/25499/mitt-romneys-mentor-his-father-a-fan-of-saul-alinsky/
    Saul Alinsky and the Romneys’ Progressive Activism

    by Dan Reihl

    Mitt Romney’s father, liberal Republican George Romney, met with and endorsed infamous progressive activist Saul Alinsky; meanwhile, in a defense of Mitt Romney against charges of racism, the National Black Chamber of Commerce points out the significant influence the elder Romney had on son Mitt and credits the Romneys for a long history of progressive activism….

  47. Ok, Newt says he isn’t a ‘lobbyist’, but has only offered ‘strategic consultancy’ so that’s different. You can call it what you will, it’s still the same.
    *Newt was also a proponent for the unconstitutional Patriot Act.
    *He praised McCain for returning to Washington from his campaign to vote for TARP. Newt said, “This is the greatest single act of responsibility ever taken by a presidential candidate and rivals President Eisenhower saying, ‘I will go to Korea.”

  48. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Does anyone here remember the old joke -What does a 500 pound parrot say -’Polly Wants A Cracker NOW!!’

    WELL WE NEED TO FORM A CONSTITUTIONAL PARTY ‘NOW’

  49. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Which reminds me – Obama goes into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder. ‘Where did you get that?’ inquired the Barman.

    ‘Why in Africa, they are all over the place!’

    SAID THE PARROT

  50. “Newt Gingrich has a new unofficial campaign surrogate and her name is Sarah Palin.”

    Poor Sarah Palin, doesn’t even know who the establishment is. Maybe she should look at the signature on her Faux News paycheck.

  51. Convicted felon Duke Cunningham has endorsed Newt!
    Once a DC politician, always a DC politician.

  52. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | January 28, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    ———

    re – obama and the parrot.

    That’s great! I am still giggling. :-)

  53. Spiritual Guardian Angel Of God

    “OBAMA PRESIDENCY CHALLENGED IN GEORGIA COURT TODAY: INELIGIBILITY EVIDENCE SUBMITTED IN TRIAL FOR THE FIRST TIME ~ STATE OF GEORGIA JANUARY 26, 2012″

    Article & A Video Of Susan Daniels 1/26/2012
    At The Court Hearing And Many Articles & Links & 4 Videos Here:

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/26/video-today-obama-on-trial-in-georgia-constitutional-eligibility-hearing-in-georgia/

    * * * *

    “OBAMA BLOCKED FROM REGISTERING FOR ALABAMA STATE PRIMARY UNTIL ELIGIBILITY IS VALIDATED BY COURT”

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/13/obama-blocked-from-registering-for-alabama-state-primary-until-eligibility-is-validated-by-court/

    * * * *

    “BREAKING => TWO NEW STATES MASSACHUSETTS AND OBAMA’S VERY OWN ILLINOIS CHALLENGE BARACK’S OFFICIAL BALLOT ELIGIBILITY”

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/21/breaking-two-new-states-massachusetts-and-obamas-very-own-illinois-challenge-barracks-official-ballot-eligibility/

  54. All,
    It is worth giving a listen to the interview of Carl Swensson on the Manning report for his thoughts post-Georgia ballot hearing…Linked below. //M-P

  55. romney is going to take florida
    paul and
    santorum will drop out of the race

    paul is done, he is not even in the primary, early polling showing
    floridians are more liberal than South Carolina and that
    bodes well for romney, the rino.

  56. “OBAMA PRESIDENCY CHALLENGED IN GEORGIA COURT TODAY: INELIGIBILITY EVIDENCE SUBMITTED IN TRIAL FOR THE FIRST TIME ~ STATE OF GEORGIA JANUARY 26, 2012″
    Article & A Video Of Susan Daniels 1/26/2012
    At The Court Hearing And Many Articles & Links & 4 Videos Here:

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/26/video-today-obama-on-trial-in-georgia-constitutional-eligibility-hearing-in-georgia/

    * * * *

    “OBAMA BLOCKED FROM REGISTERING FOR ALABAMA STATE PRIMARY UNTIL ELIGIBILITY IS VALIDATED BY COURT”

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/13/obama-blocked-from-registering-for-alabama-state-primary-until-eligibility-is-validated-by-court/

    * * * *
    “BREAKING => TWO NEW STATES MASSACHUSETTS AND OBAMA’S VERY OWN ILLINOIS CHALLENGE BARACK’S OFFICIAL BALLOT ELIGIBILITY”

    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/21/breaking-two-new-states-massachusetts-and-obamas-very-own-illinois-challenge-barracks-official-ballot-eligibility/

  57. Published on Friday, January 27, 2012 by Common Dreams
    The Shadow Banking System: A Web of Financial Fraud
    by Ellen Brown

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/27-3

  58. Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out of the race…..he will be going all the way….this is for you naysayers here…..time you wake up and see he is the only one who is UNCORRUPTABLE and is willing to stand for the people!

    Paul Craig Roberts – How Ron Paul Could Win

    In the Soviet Union common criminals were punished less harshly and received better treatment than political prisoners. A person who had committed a violent crime had more rights than someone who expressed criticism of the government and could be portrayed as having acted against the government. We now have the same situation in the US.

    In a recent case the Supreme Court overturned the sentence of a drug dealer who was convicted on the basis of a warrantless 28-day search by having a GPS device affixed to his car. In other words, a common criminal still has privacy rights under the Constitution, but not US citizens who are suspected of vague and nebulous “terrorist support.”

    Both Republicans and Democrats have demonstrated disregard for the civil liberty protections guaranteed by the US Constitution. Among the visible candidates for president, only Ron Paul has respect for the Constitution. As it is now possible for the executive branch to take away the life and liberty of a US citizen without due process of law, the Constitution is for all practical purposes lost. Tyranny looms, and Ron Paul is the only candidate who stands against tyranny.

    This is why I have written that Ron Paul is our last chance and encouraged his libertarian handlers to be flexible enough for the electorate to elect Ron Paul. I agree that Ron Paul, if elected president, would be hamstrung by the Establishment, but the other candidates offer no hope whatsoever.

    more here

    http://www.degaray.com/?p=1991

  59. A GREAT VIDEO!!

    Obama Ignored GA Eligibility Hearing; Judge To Make Ruling

    “TV news clips on Obama presidential eligibility hearing, January 26, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia.

    At this hearing Plaintiffs presented evidence challenging Obama’s eligibility to be a Presidential candidate on Georgia ballots because he is not a natural-born citizen. Thus he violates the US Constitution.

    Instead of appearing at court, Obama’s attorney wrote an inflammatory letter to Secretary of State demanding the Court be overruled. He claimed that that the Judge had allowed it to “run amok”. The Secretary of State wrote back that failure to appear in Court will be “at your peril”.

    In fact Obama and his attorney were the parties who “run amok” by dishonoring the court by refusing to appear. The hearing was conducted without them.

    By refusing to appear in court, Obama surrendered his rights to present a defense, and his attorney dishonored the Court. They can expect the Court to rule in favor of the plaintiffs. This is what the Georgia Secretary of State meant when he wrote to Obama that non-appearance would be “at your peril”.”

    * * * *

  60. Kim….keep up the fight…you are the only one here making any sense and of course MITTENS is NO BETTER than this phoney baloney!

    Supporters of Ron Paul, who has a well-organized campaign in Nevada, have complained bitterly about the situation, which they believe will allow Adelson to somehow rig the caucus results in favor of Gingrich.

    “This is all happening because Sheldon Adelson feels like he needs to intervene and cause chaos,” said Carl Bunce, Nevada chairman of the Paul campaign. He likened the situation to allowing absentee balloting after an election has already ended.
    In Nevada, Sheldon Adelson Gets His Very Own Caucus
    http://www.theatlantic.com
    The next primary contest after Florida is shaping up to be a confusing mess — and one billionaire is getting a very special accommodation.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And then there is this……

    ABC News: Gingrich backer under criminal investigation for bribes, mob ties

    Ron Paul 2012

    Bribes, Chinese Mob Ties Alleged at Casino of Gingrich Money Man
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bribes-chinese-mob-ties-allege

  61. A Crazy Old Coot

    OldSalt, I am still amazed at how much I agree with your thoughts.

    As for Newt being a slick willy, remember willy served 2 terms. If Newt can deflect all the negative accusations against him, he will win. I pray that happens.

    In the Primary, there is NO WAY that I will vote for Romney. Paul lost me long ago due to his foreign policy. However, with that being said, I will support the Repub in the General election as long as they pick an eligible running mate (No Rubio or Jindel).

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  62. This comment is not for the purpose of angering supporters of Ron Paul but rather it is intended as FOOD FOR THOUGHT………
    For many months perhaps even longer,I have realised that Ron Paul would never be elected under any scenario. With this in mind I have watched his manner of speech,his body language,and other pertinent facts. When I summarise why he is still in the race, and the liklihood that he will continue to remain in the race it all adds up to one thing…..he is hoping to draw off a high percentage of the middle ground voters, which would indeed aid Soetoro. I am now even more convinced than ever that this is his real objective,for which I believe he has been handsomely paid by the Soetoro GOONS. After all they openly BRAGGED about the fact that they had a BILLION dollars available to them. I would look upon Paul as somebody who is technically aiding the enemy of our country

  63. Elliott Abrams Caught Misleading on Newt
    By Jeffrey Lord on 1.27.12 @ 11:28AM
    “It does no one — least of all Elliott Abrams or Governor Romney — any good to try and say that Newt Gingrich, as loyal a friend and ally to Ronald Reagan as could be found in the day — was somehow some crazed anti-Reaganite who got the Cold War wrong. Not only is this not true, its laughably untrue. Quite noticeably in last night’s debate, on the heels of the release of that video showing Nancy Reagan herself praising Newt and the news that Michael Reagan is endorsing the ex-Speaker, Romney sheepishly began to back away from all of this zaniness.”
    read whole article: http://spectator.org/blog/2012/01/27/elliott-abrams-caught-misleadi

  64. I am not accusing him of anything, saimply because I cannot prove anything that I am alleging. But I believe in my own reasoning, and I further believe that even his own campaign does not have a clue about his real intentions. This would not be the first time that this sort of activity has taken place in our national election cycle. It used to be pretty much a practice of an individual who claimed he could live off of $9000.00 a year. He has a well known name, but I will not mention it here.

  65. Scarolina…………….
    I would venture to guess that Micheal Reagan has more HONESTY in his little finger than Romney has in his entire body. I look upon him as a Republican version of Soetoro. Yet a whopping number of Americans are STILL supporting the potential LIAR IN CHIEF. This fact doesn’t say a hell of a lot for those who BLINDLY support him. He knew exactly what was going on at Bain Capital, he was a board member.

  66. Old Coot……………
    I don’t know how old you are,but speaking for myself I have been on earth since 1932. In the interim period I have learned much of what I know from the school of hard knocks. Life’s school teaches at a level that is NEVER FORGOTTEN. I have learned how to think for myself,and dig up my own facts. I try hard to live up to my surname which is Wright, and therefore I am Wright 100% of the time. LOL. In that same vein I would add that life’s experiences should be telling everybody the truth about what is going on botrh in our statehouse as well as the WH. We are the people who hold the responsibility for who gets sent to Indianapolis, or who goes to Washington. If we don’t take the initiative to examine closely what those elected people are ,or who they are, and what they really stand for then it is qwe alone who must bear the burden of our own mistakes,or lack of concern at voting time.

  67. rminnc | January 27, 2012 at 6:59 pm |

    Mr. Bill….thanks for the article

    Leo had it right….the answer to “natural-born” citizen is very simple. He spelled it out in language that the most common among men can understand,…… and he is absolutely right!

    Why in the hell can’t the politicians, media, and the nay sayers see this?
    *********************************************************
    rminnc, My answer to your question.

    Because their usurper wouldn’t be eligible to be President, so they pretend to not know what a natural born Citizen is. Total dishonesty.

    Thank you for your question.

  68. OLD Salt…I have been lurking and reading your comments here for a while…but NOW I must speak my peace….though I respect you for having served in the military that is where it ends now….you are blatantly out of line and sadly against and smearing a fellow veteran in the name of DR. RON PAUL…..your last remarks could not be further from the truth….Dr. Paul is a very courageous man to take on the ESTABLISHMENT which NEWTard and MITTENS are both a part of….pure and simple…..why do you think there is a media black out on the Doc…..they don’t want his message to spread….that’s why! Time to wake up my friend…you are being duped BIG TIME by the GOONS in the GOP….they are NO better than the THUGS on the other side of the aisle with a “D” behind their name….voting for a Party is why we are in this mess….PARTY POLITICS NEEDS TO END AND ASAP!!

    Have you asked yourself why Dr. Paul is the most popular among the military……many of them are waking up to the truth about the military industrial complex and what they are REALLY up to…you evidently don’t have a clue what is going on!!! Below is a link to the info of a march on DC for Dr. Paul…..this is how much the military is supporting Dr. Paul…..you should really get involved with these folks and DE-PROGRAM yourself….sounds like there are a few other military people here that need DE-PROGRAMMING as well…..BTW my entire family is of military background as well…..YOU AND SOME OTHERS HERE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THIS HONORABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY MAN……
    *******************************************************************************************
    Veterans organize march to the White House on President’s Day

    Our nation’s veterans and active duty military will be gathering at the Washington Monument at noon on February 20, 2012. They will then proudly fall into formation as they march from the monument to the White House. Active duty military are asked to not wear their uniforms.

    In a public show of strength, they will be undertaking what may best be described as perhaps one of the most unique anti-war protests and endorsement of a Presidential candidate in our nation’s history. Upon arriving at the White House, they will make an “about-face” so their backs are turned on the current administration. With a folded flag in view as a symbolic tribute to our fallen men and women in uniform, they will then hold a salute for as many seconds as those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice during Obama’s time in office. Family members of KIA are invited to place their hands on the folded flag. There will be transportation for disabled veterans to participate. They are also encouraging family members of military and all non-military supporters of their cause to come out and fall-in behind them in this march.
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    Make no mistake about it, members of our military and our nation’s veterans are not pleased about these unconstitutional, endless wars. They are not happy with the mainstream media’s biased and deplorable coverage of the only candidate in the Republican field that is not only a veteran but has a spotless voting record that spans over decades and demonstrates that he has always stood up and defended the constitution of the United States, even when it often meant that he had to stand all alone.

    They intend to send a powerful message to us all. The event is called, “Ron Paul is the Choice of the Troops”. Adam Kokesh has sent out a call to rally together for this event. Adam is a veteran of the Iraqi war and member/co-founder of such groups as: Iraqi Veterans Against the War and Veterans for Ron Paul. He is also the host of a patriot-minded television show called. “Adam vs the Man”.

    There are many other similar groups such as: Veterans for Peace, Combat Veterans for Ron Paul, US Army for Ron Paul and the list goes on.

    For Americans that just don’t believe or understand that Ron Paul does indeed have overwhelming support from our military, perhaps this is the event to answer that question. They do exist and maybe this is their way of saying to America in a profound way, “Can you hear us now?”

    There is an upcoming moneybomb to raise funds for this effort which is scheduled for February 1st which also happens to fall on the 55th wedding anniversary of Ron and Carol Paul. Donations can be made at this site and include in your comment, “Veterans March”. The group is also featuring a video contest to advertise this historic march on the White House, please (see video) for more information about the event.

    There is a facebook group that has been set-up here for the latest updates.

    http://www.facebook.com/events/192677970828185/

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/veterans-organize-march-to-the-white-house-on-president-s-day

  69. typo or lack should be “for lack”

  70. Jaqlyn smith………………

    Believe what you wish, that is why it is a blog. I simply spoke my mind. I do not expect others to believe what I have to say at ANYTIME, I simply offerred it as FOOD FOR thought. I also said that it was not for the purpose of angering people. If you have taken it in anger I apologise for that but I do not change what I think Bye Bye.

  71. By the way can you list some of the Military who you have personally talked with who support Ron Paul? Name rank and serial number will suffice.

  72. Sadly MMMMMSSSSSS. JAQLYNSMITH is trying to speak fr ALL Veterans. I would have to tell her that most veterans do choose to SPEAK FO THEMSELVES ……most of the time. This alone tells me that MMMMMSSSSS. Smith doesn’t know veterans from a hole in the ground. Her SELF appointed SPOKESMANSHIP also tells me that here again is an OVEREDUCATED LIBERAL who thinks UPis DOWN.

  73. Old Salt……I don’t take it in anger….I take it in disgust that you would be so misinformed as to have such a ridiculous opinion of a great man who is fighting his heart out right now for both you and I…..then to ask me to list all the military I know who support Dr. Paul is even more ridiculous…..I know many and they are evidently NOT people you know…..get DE-PROGRAMMED……do it for you and your loved ones! My family was Navy and my husband’s family are all Air Force…last time I checked they still had a say!

  74. A Crazy Old Coot

    oldsalt79 | January 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    I, for one, am a retired vet and do not support Dr. Paul. So, she does not speak for me. Like you, I have been on this earth for a long time (1942) and have learned to think and speak for myself. I take responsibility for the things I do and say, I don’t try to put it off on someone else.

    I’m sorry if my opinions do not agree with someone elses, but that’s life. I have been wrong before and will be again, but again, that’s life.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  75. Wake up folks…..

    Secrets are More Often Conspiracies and Shame and Seldom are National Security

    by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

    Let’s start this out with an attention grabber. Out there, somewhere is a photograph of Osama bin Laden and George H. W. Bush, shaking hands in the White House. It exists. There is this and more, so much more, that would make America’s heads spin.

    The actual trained journalists around me beat this into my head. OK, here it is.

    Those who follow rumors, which means every single one of us, know that former President George H. W. Bush worked with the bin Ladens, a wealthy and respected Saudi family that invests in a group of military companies called The Carlyle Group, headed by many former world leaders.

    If they get away with this, there is nothing that they will not do to us.

  76. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm |

    oldsalt79 | January 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    I, for one, am a retired vet and do not support Dr. Paul. So, she does not speak for me. Like you, I have been on this earth for a long time (1942) and have learned to think and speak for myself. I take responsibility for the things I do and say, I don’t try to put it off on someone else.

    I’m sorry if my opinions do not agree with someone elses, but that’s life. I have been wrong before and will be again, but again, that’s life.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I didn’t say all military…..it is evident you two don’t but the majority do…..it is unfortunate though that you would put out such libel and venom against a fellow veteran when the others who you claim to be SOOO good for America are just a couple of CHICKEN HAWKS who have served NO ONE but their own greedy selves!

  77. Politics | January 28, 2012
    Friday night document dump contains damaging info on Holder
    Anthony Martin
    Conservative Examiner

    In an unannounced late Friday night document dump last evening, the Justice Department, at the direction of the White House, released 500 pages of material on the Operation Fast and Furious scandal, also known as Project Gunwalker. The documents contain information indicating that the White House is now willing to sacrifice Attorney-General Eric Holder in order to protect itself.

    Until now the White House has engaged in a not so subtle effort to protect Holder, believing that if Holder is taken down, the Obama White House goes down with him. Apparently that tactic has changed.

    NPR was chosen as the news outlet that would receive the documents and report on them.

    The documents and email exchanges can be viewed here.
    Advertisement

    The smoking gun, the clear-cut proof, that the Justice Department was aware early on that Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered with one of the guns the Obama Administration bought with ‘straw purchasers’ who would send the firearms to Mexican drug cartels is contained in the stack of emails released to NPR:

    The email messages show the former top federal prosecutor in Arizona, Dennis Burke, notifying an aide to Holder via email on Dec. 15, 2010 that agent Brian Terry had been wounded and died. “Tragic,” responds the aide, Monty Wilkinson. “I’ve alerted the AG, the acting Deputy Attorney General…”

    Only a few minutes later, Wilkinson emailed again, saying, “Please provide any additional details as they become available to you.”

    Burke then delivered another piece of bad news: “The guns found in the desert near the murder [sic] … officer connect back to the investigation we were going to talk about — they were AK-47s purchased at a Phoenix gun store.”

    Those emails were exchanged within 24 hours after Terry’s murder.

    In sworn testimony to Congress Holder has stated that neither he nor anyone in the Justice Department were aware of the facts involving the murder of Agent Terry. Holder further denied knowledge of Fast and Furious until early in 2011 when he was called to testify before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

    According to NPR, the new information is sure to ‘stoke the fires’ among Congressional Republicans who have insisted all along that Holder knew much more about Fast and Furious, and Agent Terry’s murder, than he disclosed.

    The fact that the White House must approve the release of DOJ documents to the media indicates two key developments in the cover up of the scandal: one, that protecting Holder from damaging information is no longer a top priority, and two, the Obama White House is aware that the investigation into Fast and Furious has reached a new level, threatening the very core of the Administration, including the President himself.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/friday-night-document-dump-shows-white-house-willing-to-sacrifice-holder?CID=examiner_alerts_article

  78. RON PAUL IS THE CHOICE OF THE TROOPS! (march on the White House)

    http://www.facebook.com/events/192677970828185/

    Listen up Old Salt and some of the rest of you who are smearing a great man……SHAME ON YOU….

    Tribute to Our Troops (Currently on TV in Florida)

  79. Ron Paul left the campaign trail to present legislation against this……wake up people….

    Romney, Graham, Jar Jar, the NDAA and the Constitution

  80. Crazy Old Coot, are you a Gold prospector? I noticed your moniker.

  81. A Crazy Old Coot

    bob strauss | January 28, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    Crazy Old Coot, are you a Gold prospector? I noticed your moniker.
    ///////////////////////////
    I have been known to pan for gold before (never found any) but that is the shoulder patch of the 49th Inf of California. It was where I started my military service.
    ////////////////////////////

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
    A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    ////////////
    I didn’t base my opinion on anyone else’s opinion. I listened to Ron Paul discuss Iran and their nuke program and his agreeing that Iran has a right to have nukes. I also listened to him discussing Israel and saying he would cut off aid to them.
    I disagree on both accounts and will NOT support him because of those items.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  82. A Crazy Old Coot

    jacqlynsmith,
    Just a FYI, I served in the counterintelligence field, in the USAF, and served some time in Muslim countries. I believe the threat from Iran that they want to wipe Israel and the USA off the map. I cannot and will not allow our country to condone Iran getting nukes… Period! If that means war with Iran, bring it on!!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  83. Thanks Coot.

  84. Tribute to the Troops was an excellent video!
    God bless Ron Paul!

  85. Jacqlynsmith
    You know, I’ve been wondering this morning where everyone was…and, lo and behold you show up…
    I’ve been lurking here also for a few years now (my apologies) and followed this ongoing political saga, as with so many others, in utter amazement.
    My personal belief is that, at a minimum, veterans (especially combat veterans) have an enormous stake in the events which have taken us to this present state of affairs.
    I am aware that Dr. Paul is a veteran, and has a personal relationship with veterans. I would like nothing more than to see him rise in the polls as he has convinced me that he genuinely cares for this country.
    I am advocating no one thus far in this contest, as I am still quite concerned with what has appeared from the start to be a communist inspired political coup and usurpation of the executive branch of our government with resulting near economic collapse as a result.
    While trying to be objective, I believe it would be well to take the pulse of the electorate when considering, not only which candidate I prefer, but which candidate will be the most viable…To put it in simpler terms, the veterans of this country, although a sizeable and generally respected group, are not anywhere remotely enough to swing an election on their own. They therefore must necessarily be part of another group or block of voters as it were.
    The pulse of the electorate in this country at present could adequately be termed as “hopping mad”. Over the past three years they have been lied to,
    stolen from, and generally been subjected to abuses which by any standard would be considered sadistic on it’s face. As for me, this sentiment needs to be reflected in it’s leader…there are chronically unemployed, those who have seen their retirements evaporate, those who have become homeless….this is serious stuff and these people don’t just want to turn things around…they want retribution, because for many, this stuff is gone forever….they don’t just want someone with good ideas…they want someone who they are confident can get things done!
    My question to you would be…do you seriously think that Dr. Paul has the chutzpa and the connections that it will take to rally this constituency?

  86. Poppy Bush took baby boy Jeb to visit his majesty Obama this morning at the White House……..does this mean Jeb is next in line for the crown?

    We don’t have a Republic…it appears we have a royal line of succession.

  87. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm |

    “The Carlyle Group, headed by many former world leaders.”

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I mentioned them several days ago. They paid the bill to fix the Washington Monument from the earthquake damage. I just read that they are getting ready to “Go Public”. LIKE GOLDMAN SACHS DID!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

    I think they call themselves this because they came up with the idea while meeting in the infamous Carlyle Hotel in NYC.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Hotel

  88. My question to you would be…do you seriously think that Dr. Paul has the chutzpa and the connections that it will take to rally this constituency?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coldwarvet…..thanks for your comments…….only if the people rise up and demand the truth and vote for this man…..too many are dismissing him but they do it at their own peril….the RINO”s know they can NOT win without his supporters and we know we will NOT vote for another WAR MONGERING RINO….time will tell…it’s all about delegates anyway and he is picking them up in bunches…..keep spreading his message of FREEDOM and PROSPERITY through PEACE…..he is the only uniter in the race so it is our last chance IMO to get this country back on track toward the constitution and out of all these countries that don’t want us there!

  89. http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/01/important-update-judge-malihi-expedites.html

    Important update! Judge Malihi expedites the date for post trial motions. Moves it from February 5th to February 1st, will issue his ruling shortly thereafter

  90. kim | January 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm |

    Tribute to the Troops was an excellent video!
    God bless Ron Paul!
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    Yes….isn’t it Kim….I have posted several more but they are in moderation for some reason…..I think I put too many at once in one comment box!

  91. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 3:54 pm |

    jacqlynsmith,
    Just a FYI, I served in the counterintelligence field, in the USAF, and served some time in Muslim countries. I believe the threat from Iran that they want to wipe Israel and the USA off the map. I cannot and will not allow our country to condone Iran getting nukes… Period! If that means war with Iran, bring it on!!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I don’t need to be in counterintelligence to know we can’t afford any more wars…..seems like someone as smart as you would know that too!

  92. Fran Drescher, the star of Nanny on tv, and a big time vocal supporter of Mr. Obama, told the Huffington Post yesterday that she and her husband both had been abducted by ailens….

    I had always suspected this but her admission has told me a lot about this coo-coo, werido, way out lady!

    I wonder how many more Obama supporters she met on her galactic journey?

  93. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
    ////////////
    I didn’t base my opinion on anyone else’s opinion. I listened to Ron Paul discuss Iran and their nuke program and his agreeing that Iran has a right to have nukes. I also listened to him discussing Israel and saying he would cut off aid to them.
    I disagree on both accounts and will NOT support him because of those items.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You know what they say about opinions don’t you?? SO seeing as what you are saying is just OPINION then I have to say MY facts trump opinion….I really have a hard time believing you are so naive’ but maybe you are…….first where is the proof that Iran is building a NUKE….NONE…..and why would them having ONE nuke be a threat to anyone…..the Israeli’s have 300+…do you really believe Iran will NUKE themselves….I highly doubt it and the experts agree with Dr. Paul so your opinion is WRONG whether you want to admit it or not!!! We can’t afford another war and we don’t NEED another war…..the troops agree with the doc and so do the experts and the majority of Americans…..

    What Foreign Policy Experts Agree With Ron Paul_0001.wmv

  94. Coldwarvet…..at our caucus I am giving a speech on the doc….my major point is that he is the only UNCORRUPTABLE candidate in this race….all these others have been involved in deals and pay offs…..Dr. Paul is a true hero and very courageous to take on the FEDERAL RESERVE and the ESTABLISHMENT….it’s a NO brainer for me!

  95. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    More on The Carlyle Group

    “In 2012, he donated $7.5 million towards the repair of the Washington Monument.[14][15]”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Rubenstein

  96. jacqlynsmith
    Thanks for the response, it shows you read my post. Sorry it got so long.
    I guess what I would like to see is for Dr. Paul to go get his teeth sharpened, rub blue dye over his body, put some war paint on his face and maybe even rent a set of dreadlocks before his next appearance….maybe even ride in on a Friesian war horse….this is all figurative of course, but now is the time for Braveheart….not to stand there totally composed. This is what the media wants, unfortunately, and I submit to you that there needs to be some kind of change in his demeanor if he seriously intends to pull this off. i.e. He needs to convince people that he is prepared and able to do battle.

  97. Dismissing a candidate is not the same as smearing a candidate. We all have choices. My brother, brother in law and my best friend are all turnig towards Ron Paul. Just when I am about to take the leap of faith myself, old JS comes around and my sanity is restored. Holy crap!!!!! The bitterness and communication style is indicative of other issues going on that are beyond politics. Are these people around to make the people in our movement seem so frigging unsavory that you would never in a million years talk to them in a social setting, much less march along side them to save our Republic. WOW!

  98. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Rob | January 28, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/01/important-update-judge-malihi-expedites.html

    “Moves it from February 5th to February 1st, will issue his ruling shortly thereafter”
    _____________________________________________

    GREAT NEWS – I HOPE!!

  99. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    However, we need them in the states with big Democrat Electoral College votes -New York & California.

  100. Rminnc,
    I suspect the conversation went something like this

    Bush Sr. well…-…you know Barry, this could mean time in Leavenworth for you or your wife…leaving your children to foster families. You know, if Jeb gets elected and you lay down for him you could get a presidential pardon. Nancy Pelosi,…. hell Barry, …….lots of democrats could avoid treason charges and maybe those shiny new FEMA camps that Dick Cheney’s friends at Haliburton almost got staffed. I think Barry…….well Jeb and I think it’s time you listened to reason.

    Supreme dictator Obama— Well I have my own privately funded army of teachers, unions, and food stamp people, not to mention my obot minions who will destroy the planet to save the snail darter! The don’t care about the Constitution or the would have never voted for me in the first place!

    Jeb— Anyway, the public is starting to think you don’t respect the courts and rule of law, even the Constitution. That could lead to violent upheavel with a lot of dead Americans. Barry, honestly I don’t see the joint chiefs coming out to support or protect you after the information gets out.

    Supreme dictator Obama– You know 95% of blacks are racist and still support me. There could be riots if you try to remove and I am in control of the military.

    Bush Sr. —I don’t think we are communicating. Things are getting out of hand. We want to drill in the Dakota’s and well, your policies are costing a lot of people, important people, money.

    Supreme dictator obama—I have already robbed the treasury! I can pay off your people! I can make that judge and SOS change their minds! We can work this out on the peoples money and backs.

    Jeb…I believe if you resign now it gives a chance for new candidates, like Bill and me to run. We both know Bid dens got no chance for election if you resign.

    Pete

  101. rminnc
    Fran Drescher, the star of Nanny on tv, and a big time vocal supporter of Mr. Obama, told the Huffington Post yesterday that she and her husband both had been abducted by ailens….

    …hey, I believe it …look what they did to her!…

  102. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    If Ron Paul really wanted to do something great, he would run as a CONSTITUTIONALIST.

    With his votes from the young and and the Republican’s votes they would drain the present swamp of all the corruption and bring Obama’s corruption to a crashing halt. REMEMBER the winner has to have 271 Electoral College votes to win. With the two sucking off from the O’s one group no one gets the needed number. THEN THE CONGRESS(Republican) makes the choice. It is either this or Obama is declared ineligible to run in as many states to give him the election.
    REMEMBER – If our system worked on the popular vote instead of the Electoral College vote, Al Gore would have won the race against G. Bush2. AL GORE DIDN’T EVEN WIN HIS OWN STATE OF TENNESSEE!!

  103. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Everybody needs to read this -

    The U.S. Electoral College

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

    There will be a test in an hour!!

  104. It is a joke Ron Paul is the choice of our troops. The troops do not all support him. My uncle is retired Army. My father is a Navy vet. Other family members and son’s of friends are over in Afghanistan now. A step-son was in Iraq. Not one takes Ron Paul seriously. South Carolina is one of the most military states with all their vets and military bases, and Ron Paul wasn’t even a top candidate. The Democrats are the ones voting for Ron Paul, like radical Michael Moore. If the military supports Ron Paul, it’s the vets who have become leftists. This is a primary race for the GOP nomination; not the far left or Libertarian nomination. Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian previously and didn’t win so he tried the GOP. He’s a flip flopper.

  105. Paxson, check your e-mails.

  106. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
    jacqlynsmith,
    Just a FYI, I served in the counterintelligence field, in the USAF, and served some time in Muslim countries. I believe the threat from Iran that they want to wipe Israel and the USA off the map. I cannot and will not allow our country to condone Iran getting nukes… Period! If that means war with Iran, bring it on!!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

    _____________________________________

    You’re a hero, Crazy Old Coot. Thanks for your bravery.

    My neighbor is recently retired CIA. My other neighbor is retired FBI. The threats from Iran are scary and real according to them. Iran was killing our troops in Iraq and elsewhere. Ms. Smith assumes we all want war. Those that have seen war or who have sent relatives to wars, don’t want war, but if we are attacked, are we suppose to send greetings to the attackers or are we to defend ourselves?

  107. Defense minister Ehud Barak says Israel has no plans to attack Iran and that it is far off. So to say we have to vote for Ron Paul because we don’t want war, I don’t think any of the candidates want war, but they are not going to roll over either, except for Ron Paul.


  108. Petitioners’ original complaint, supported by all of the materials they produced to make their case, is that SoS Kemp should not have allowed the name of Barack Obama on the GA D Presidential preference primary ballot because under GA law, only the names of candidates who are qualified for office may be printed on the ballot; AND President Obama is Constitutionally unqualified for the job. That was a fatal mistake. Instead – and I am borrowing this from my work on those citizen complaints of election fraud to state A’sG, in the sidebar – they should have argued this.

    The SoS allowed the name of Barack Obama on the ballot using bad rules. That is, he carried out his ministerial duty to oversee elections by using rules that allowed onto the ballot the name of a candidate for whom even the D’s refuse to provide documentary evidence available in the public record; is Constitutionally qualified for the job. Under the Nature of Proceedings, above, this would place the burden of proof back on Petitioner; the standard, a preponderance of the evidence (>50%). And that’s a good thing. If the burden remained on the SoS, he would argue, the rules are fine, and no one could demonstrate they haven’t worked to keep an unqualified candidate off the ballot. (Remember, nothing Petitioners argued could ever establish Obama is not a NBC.)

    But with the burden of proof shifted to them, Petitioners could have made their case merely by issuing subpoenas for all of those officials involved in signing the 2008 Certification of Nomination from the DNC Services Corporation swearing the then nominee Obama was “duly nominated,” that is, vetted for Constitutional eligibility under the DNC Charter; and submitting this to the GA SoS in 2008 to get his name printed on the ballot. Again, the blueprint for this argument and the evidence which Petitioners could have submitted into the record to support this argument; is laid out in those citizen complaints.

    Do you suppose any of the D witnesses would have shown up? Again, under the Administrative Procedure rule regarding default (above), if a default issued, this means, the ALJ has the authority to ignore any input from these witnesses. But this absence would actually speak volumes. It would demonstrate for everyone to see what we – I -have been saying all along: everyone else is willing to explain why Barack Obama is a NBC but the official members of the D party. Not when it comes to answering the question for voters and constituents – see the evidence compiled in the citizen complaints to state A’sG – and not when it comes to explaining his eligibility to an official judicial or administrative body. No reasonable person could be expected to trust the word of people who refuse to back up their word with their presence at this proceeding.

    The Case Official representing the Respondent SoS could only argue back, ‘We did what we always do; accept the representation of the candidate’s (presumptive) qualification, from the Party.’

    IT WAS A GOOD TIME; IT WAS THE BEST TIME; IT WAS A PARTY

  109. A Crazy Old Coot

    Tina | January 28, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    I don’t think anyone is wanting to go to war with Iran or anyone else. But, if it becomes necessary, then so be it. I never saw combat, so I can’t claim any real knowledge of it. However, I did train in the Inf. as a light weapons soldier and a heavy weapons soldier. I do understand “some” of the tatics and “hell” of war. Of course this was way back when and things have changed.

    In my last military job (AFOSI) I worked with the CIA and FBI. I also received some of their training. If the muslims say they want to kill you, they mean it. If they say they want to be friends, take it with a grain of salt. I was in Turkey when they were supposed to be friends with us, but underneath, they couldn’t stand the U.S.

    In my opinion, no muslim country should be allowed to have nukes. They will interchange weapons with each other and if one has them, all have access.
    And as long as Ron Paul says the Iran should have nukes, I cannot and will not support him, regardless of other peoples opinions of him or me.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  110. jbjd: (Remember, nothing Petitioners argued could ever establish Obama is not a NBC.)

    ==========================
    But what they presented from the govt’s own verification site, the non match of name with SSN in use, is itself a foundational fact to connote a lack of ANY KIND of citizenship at the present time and past. What else would necessitate the need for frauding up a SSN?? Citizenship would give no need to do so. That’s far better than having to get into the weeds of the ongoing litigation re: definitions, etc. And it would give new discovery to the SoS in order to save face for prior error of certification.

  111. observer | January 28, 2012 at 7:19 pm |

    jbjd: (Remember, nothing Petitioners argued could ever establish Obama is not a NBC.)

    ==========================
    But what they presented from the govt’s own verification site, the non match of name with SSN in use, is itself a foundational fact to connote a lack of ANY KIND of citizenship at the present time and past. What else would necessitate the need for frauding up a SSN?? Citizenship would give no need to do so. That’s far better than having to get into the weeds of the ongoing litigation re: definitions, etc. And it would give new discovery to the SoS in order to save face for prior error of certification.
    *********************************************************************
    I will be unable to persuade some people that introducing ‘evidence’ of the sort introduced by these Petitioners cannot satisfy a threshold required to prove anything. Even assuming evidence actually exists that a social security number retrieved from a commercial web site by a person claiming to be an authority on the subject is assigned to someone named Barack Obama who is assumed to be the current President and which for the sake of argument is assumed to be different from another # assigned…See how many “assumes” are in there? Let’s start another thread of ‘assumes.’ Assume the person testifying as to these ‘facts’ is assumed to be an expert not only in the government procedure, over time, for assigning ss#’s… People have become fixated on dead-end schemes. Ha, until I posted the articles on paid political advertising (DE-CODER RINGS (1 of 2) and (2 of 2) people spent countless hours and days (and more) de-constructing pixels on an electronic image posted on a campaign web site CLEARLY IDENTIFIED IN THE FOOTERS AS SUCH SITE, UNDER THE U.S. CODE, trying to prove whether the image was fake! And, as I demonstrated, it was only a paid political ad!

    People cling to their beliefs, all facts to the contrary notwithstanding. At least, I hope my detractors recall, this (misplaced) elation they now feel with events in GA originated with the idea of initiating ballot challenges, which I raised in the summer of 2008 and have championed ever since, and which could have been successful by now if more citizens had followed the blueprint laid out on my blog, instead of leaving their advocacy role to the so-called ‘experts.’.

  112. In moderation, at 07:36.

  113. America’s Choice: Ron Paul or Unlimited Government

    No matter how acrimonious the Republican primaries get, all of the candidates agree on one thing: Barack Obama must be defeated in November 2012. For 3 of the 4 remaining candidates, that is virtually the only important issue in the Republican primary race. Obama must be defeated and the only issue to resolve in the primaries is who has the best chance of doing so.

    Only Ron Paul asks the questions that should follow logically: Why is it so important to defeat Obama and what will you do differently from him?

    read more??
    http://www.dailypaul.com/207449/americas-choice-ron-paul-or-unlimited-government

  114. ‘ALERTED’
    New docs show Holder got Fast and Furious education on day of Brian Terry’s murder

    Attorney General Eric Holder’s Department of Justice dumped documents related to Operation Fast and Furious on congressional officials late Friday night. Central to this document dump is a series of emails showing Holder was informed of slain Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder on the day it happened – December 15, 2010 – and that he was informed the weapons used to kill Terry were from Fast and Furious on the same day.

    An email from one official, whose name has been redacted from the document, to now-former Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke reads: “On December 14, 2010, a BORTAC agent working in the Nogales, AZ AOR was shot. The agent was conducting Border Patrol operations 18 miles north of the international boundary when he encountered [redacted word] unidentified subjects. Shots were exchanged resulting in the agent being shot. At this time, the agent is being transported to an area where he can be air lifted to an emergency medical center.”

    That email was sent at 2:31 a.m. on the day Terry was shot. One hour later, a follow-up email read: “Our agent has passed away.”

    Burke forwarded those two emails to Holder’s then-deputy chief of staff Monty Wilkinson later that morning, adding that the incident was “not good” because it happened “18 miles w/in” the border.

    Wilkinson responded to Burke shortly thereafter and said the incident was “tragic.” “I’ve alerted the AG [Holder], the Acting DAG, Lisa, etc.”

    Then, later that day, Burke followed up with Wilkinson after Burke discovered from officials whose names are redacted that the guns used to kill Terry were from Fast and Furious. “The guns found in the desert near the murder BP officer connect back to the investigation we were going to talk about – they were AK-47s purchased at a Phoenix gun store,” Burke wrote to Wilkinson.

    “I’ll call tomorrow,” Wilkinson responded.

    This is hardly the first time new evidence has come out that directly contradicts Holder’s congressional testimony. These new emails are written evidence that Holder was aware of Fast and Furious about five months before he testified in Congress that he had only learned of the gunwalking program a “few weeks” before a May 3, 2011, House Judiciary Committee appearance.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/28/latest-friday-night-document-dump-shows-holder-was-informed-of-fast-and-furious-connection-to-brian-terry%e2%80%99s-murder-on-day-border-agent-died/#ixzz1knxKvdxO

  115. Letter: Ron Paul is only candidate in primary pointing away from status quo

    With the Republican primary Jan. 31, there’s little coverage about Congressman Ron Paul. Some say, “Don’t vote (Mitt) Romney because Mormonism is a cult.” I say don’t vote Romney because he’s a progressive who supports gun control and socialized medicine.

    They say Christians should vote Rick Santorum, who supported Romney in 2008, who also likes big government and some gun control.

    Then there’s Newt “Freddie Mac” Gingrich, profiting off our misery.

    I think the people are tired of politics as usual. That’s why the slogan “change” is appealing.

    I have had enough of the same old thing. Each time we elect a president, things stay the same, more spending, taxes, intrusive laws and regulation.

    A constitutional conservative, Ron Paul, is the best choice.

    Some try to scare “evangelicals,” saying he is “anti-Israel.” But he’s stated he would support Israel based on its being an ally and a friend.

    Dr. Paul is against abortion, and would remove federal funding for it and believes states should have rights on legislation. He believes in a declaration of war, not a U.N. vote before sending our soldiers to kill.

    Considering past voting records and the John Birch Society’s TRIM rating, Paul is the only candidate scoring a 100 percent conservative voting record.

    As for this Christian, I would rather have my constitutional rights, freedom and liberty restored and strengthened than to hope some “Republicrat” will save me.
    http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/jan/28/letter-ron-paul-is-only-candidate-in-primary-quo/

  116. Ron Paul WINS Tennessee Republican Assembly Straw Poll

    The Results:
    Ron Paul 200 votes
    Rick Santorum 62 votes
    Newt Gingrich 38 votes
    Mitt Romney 15 votes
    Jon Huntsman 1 vote

  117. Ron Paul on the Campaign Trail in Colorado
    Visits Fort Collins, Denver, and Colorado Springs
    Tuesday, January 31, 2012

    10:00 a.m.
    Fort Collins Town Hall & Rally
    Colorado State University
    Lory Student Center– Main Ballroom
    1101 Centre Avenue
    Fort Collins, CO 80526

    12:00 p.m.
    Denver Town Hall & Rally
    Renaissance Denver Hotel– Grand Ballroom
    3801 Quebec Street
    Denver, CO 80207

    2:00 p.m.
    Colorado Springs Whistle Stop
    City of Colorado Springs Municipal Airport
    Colorado Jet Center
    1575 Aviation Way
    Colorado Springs, CO 80916

  118. *UPDATE: Maine Representative Aaron Libby and LL Bean’s Linda Bean Endorse Ron Paul for President!

    “We need to change our cradle-to-grave government mentality. Cutting taxes is not enough. We must reduce the size and cost of our federal government. I am tired of the status quo, big-government politicians of both sides of the aisle. Ron Paul represents real cuts, real change, for a free and prosperous America. I am a Ron Paul Republican,” said Rep. Libby.

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/01/28/ron-paul-endorsed-by-m

    **Update! According to the Washington Post, Linda Bean, Grand Daughter of the LL Bean founder and prominent Republican activist in Maine, is the first of two endorsements today.

    “He’s very electable, he crosses all ideological lines because of his strong message,” Bean said. “He’s for the gold standard. I think people want stability in this country. He’s for helping America domestically, and staying out of aggressive wars. We’re just spending ourselves down the drain in these countries year after year with occupation.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/campaigns/paul-says-g

  119. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/

    Saturday, January 28, 2012
    I wouldn’t call this an endorsement! – I have decided who I will vote for in the Florida GOP primary.

    I have decided who I will vote for in the Florida GOP primary.

    There is less wrong and more right with Rick Santorum than the other candidates.
    ==========================
    I wholeheartedly agree.

  120. Fellow Constitutionalists,
    One of my earliest childhood memories is of my parents talking about Nixon and the Watergate scandal. I remember the newspaper headline: “Nixon Resigns!” President Nixon’s fight against court subpoenas made international news. Yesterday President Obama completely ignored a court subpoena, and the world shrugged.
    Obama’s behavior yesterday is even more disturbing than Nixon’s. Nixon at least respected the judicial branch enough to have his attorney’s show up in court and follow procedure. Nixon’s fight in the courts followed existing law. Nixon acknowledged the authority of the judicial branch even while he fought it. Obama, on the other hand, essentially said yesterday that the judicial branch has no power over him. He ordered his attorneys to stay away from the hearing. He didn’t petition a higher court in a legitimate attempt to stay the hearing. Instead he showed complete contempt for the entire judicial branch and for the rule of law. Rather than respecting the legal process Obama went around the courts and tried to put political pressure directly on the Georgia Secretary of State. When that failed, he simply ignored the judicial branch completely.

    The rule of law, and our three-branch system of government, now hang in the balance. If the Georgia court issues a ruling on the merits and an order finding Obama in contempt of court, and if that contempt order actually results in real punishment of some kind, then we will still have a Constitutional Republic. If this doesn’t happen, then Obama will have been rewarded for showing complete contempt for the judicial branch.
    Understand that the goal of the Georgia ballot challenge was to have a court rule on the merits of the Constitutional question: Does the term “natural born citizen” in Article II of the Constitution, require a Presidential candidate to have two parents that were U.S. citizens at the time the candidate was born? Obama wants to avoid having a court rule on this question. That is why he didn’t show up and ordered his attorneys to not show up. He was hoping that the Georgia court would enter a default judgment rather than rule on the merits. If the court enters a default judgment, Obama will have succeeded in avoiding the Constitutional eligibility question. He will then appeal the default judgment, get the appellate court to suspend the default judgment pending appeal, and then delay the appeal until after the primary. This is undoubtedly Obama’s plan.
    If the Georgia Court rules that Supreme Court precedent must be followed and therefore Obama simply does not meet the minimum Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, then we will at least have succeeded in finding one court in the nation willing to do its job. If that court finds Obama in contempt of court, then we still have three viable branches of government. The Georgia court has the authority to do both of these things. The world should be holding its breath.
    Unfortunately the world is apparently unaware that a great Republic is on life support. The Roman Empire died a slow death. It’s death was so gradual that few people living at that time probably noticed the individual events that marked the death throes of that great empire. Apparently the same is true of America. Yesterday marked a stunning turn of events in the constant power struggle between the three branches of our government. Our President openly showed that he believes he is completely above the law. I wonder if the court even noticed its own death certificate. We will see in a few days.
    I will certainly try to explain this to the court in our proposed findings of fact and law that the court requested we file before February 5th.
    All of your encouragement and prayers have been greatly appreciated. They are needed even more over the next few weeks. This battle is FAR from over. And it has taken on importance beyond what we predicted (which is truly astounding). Please tell everyone you know about Obama’s contempt of the judicial branch. Please explain to them what it really means. Even those that agree with Obama politically and disagree with our ballot challenge should be shocked, appalled, and scared of Obama’s contempt for the judicial system.

    In Liberty,
    Van Irion
    Co-Founder, Lead Counsel

  121. The Dirty “little” Secret Of The Natural Born Citizen Clause Revealed.
    Posted in Uncategorized on January 27, 2012 by naturalborncitizen

    I have emphasized the word “little” because the truth of the law on this issue is very simple, folks. So simple that the mystery is deciphered by application of one of the most clear, concise and undeniable rules of law; the code of statutory construction governs, and therefore, “natural born Citizen” must require something more than being born in the United States.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  122. @Crazy Old Coot, all I can say is: at last some real sanity on this subject matter of Iran, etc. etc.

    What you say is from my foreign perspective, absolutely correct. It would be a disaster to have someone like the crazy RP as POTUS. He cannot be trusted, and in my view he is the real Østupid light.

  123. Interesting quick read
    About Van Irion » libertylegalfoundation.orglibertylegalfoundation.org/about-van-irion/

  124. da verg | January 28, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    ********************************************************
    This man is intentionally misleading you, for reasons at which I can only guess. For example,

    1. He says, Obama ignored the court. He did not. This was an administrative hearing, designed to determine whether the SoS had obeyed administrative laws regarding the ballot.
    2. He says, he wanted the court to rule on a Constitutional question. But, again, this was not a court of law; and, more importantly, this OSAH has no legal authority to rule on a question of Constitutional interpretation.
    3. He says, Obama disrespects the separation of powers by ignoring this judicial tribunal. Again, this was not a judicial tribunal and, in fact, the OSAH is part of the Executive branch of government, and not the Judicial branch.

    If you read my blog, you know all of this, which is spelled out in OSAH law.

    If Mr. van Irion had read the OSAH rules before traveling from TN to GA to represent his clients, he would know all this. I suspect, he does.

    Finally, no one but a ‘birther’ believes Minor stands for the proposition that only 2 citizen parents can produce a natural born citizen. And, as I can attest, not all birthers think he has any idea what he is talking about.

    (I wonder if he is channeling donations into running for Congress again?)

  125. A Crazy Old Coot

    jbjd | January 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    So, how many citizen parents do YOU “think” is required to produce a Natural Born Citizen?

  126. jbjd: 1. He says, Obama ignored the court. He did not. This was an administrative hearing, designed to determine whether the SoS had obeyed administrative laws regarding the ballot.
    ========================
    I believe this hearing is about the future not the past…..what is to go forward with the suggestions of this judge after weighing information that hadn’t been presented up to this time. It may inadvertently point to a past qualification in error but again there is more real time information that may give the SoS an out for a different decision this time around.

  127. jacqlynsmith
    Thanks for the response, it shows you read my post. Sorry it got so long.
    I guess what I would like to see is for Dr. Paul to go get his teeth sharpened, rub blue dye over his body, put some war paint on his face and maybe even rent a set of dreadlocks before his next appearance….maybe even ride in on a Friesian war horse….this is all figurative of course, but now is the time for Braveheart….not to stand there totally composed. This is what the media wants, unfortunately, and I submit to you that there needs to be some kind of change in his demeanor if he seriously intends to pull this off. i.e. He needs to convince people that he is prepared and able to do battle.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    YW Coldwarvet…….Dr. Paul is plenty prepared to do battle….it’s him against the NEO CONS…the MEDIA WHORES….the DemonRATs and the GOP establishment…all of whom can’t win without his votes…..that is the charm of Dr. Paul….he is a NO nonsense type of person and takes his job seriously….the others are just a bunch of lightweight blubber heads…..mostly a side show…..did you hear how many times in the last debate in Florida that they all said they agreed with Dr. Paul….that’s because he is the master of the Constitution, very knowledgeable about our debt situation and at the same time a GENTLEMAN…..he is the only one who can UNITE the country and he will do that by getting the swing votes which are the Independents and the under 30 group…he will also get the majority of the military and Veterans votes……all we have to do is get him nominate….he will kick BO’s behind hands down…that is if there is even another election……the crap could hit the fan before then!

  128. Actually one could say that the precedent of history demonstrates an understood definition for eligibility for the Presidency in that every President HAS been a NBC under the defining qualities of 2 citizen parents since only one has not fallen under such conditions but was so aware that that definition was understood that he had to knowingly falsify his own history to be seen by the clueless as worthy.

  129. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | January 28, 2012 at 5:29 pm |

    If Ron Paul really wanted to do something great, he would run as a CONSTITUTIONALIST.

    With his votes from the young and and the Republican’s votes they would drain the present swamp of all the corruption and bring Obama’s corruption to a crashing halt. REMEMBER the winner has to have 271 Electoral College votes to win. With the two sucking off from the O’s one group no one gets the needed number. THEN THE CONGRESS(Republican) makes the choice. It is either this or Obama is declared ineligible to run in as many states to give him the election.
    REMEMBER – If our system worked on the popular vote instead of the Electoral College vote, Al Gore would have won the race against G. Bush2. AL GORE DIDN’T EVEN WIN HIS OWN STATE OF TENNESSEE!!

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    You never know…..maybe he will if the GOP doesn’t straighten up…..many of us wished he had gone 3rd party from the beginning but he knows what he is doing and his message of FREEDOM and PROSPERITY through PEACE is spreading……I have converted many and I know a lot people who have also! Many BO supporters are now on the Ron Paul band wagon and will NEVER support a WAR MONGERING RINO……Dr. Paul is the only one who can truly UNITE the country….all the others are DIVIDERS!

  130. A Crazy Old Coot

    http://barracudabrigade.blogspot.com/2012/01/sarah-palin-vote-for-newt-annoy-liberal.html

    Sarah Palin: “Vote for Newt. Annoy a liberal. Vote Newt. Keep this process going.”

  131. Herman Cain endorses Gingrich for GOP presidential nomination
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10065116

  132. Tina | January 28, 2012 at 6:05 pm |

    Defense minister Ehud Barak says Israel has no plans to attack Iran and that it is far off. So to say we have to vote for Ron Paul because we don’t want war, I don’t think any of the candidates want war, but they are not going to roll over either, except for Ron Paul.

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    WRONG…..the troops know Dr. Paul is the only one that speaks the truth….the others are being led by the puppet master…..the good doc is NO ONE’s puppet…..that is why people who know and love him support him! BTW….if you knew anything at all about Dr. Paul then you would know he is calling for a strong NATIONAL DEFENSE…..we don’t need 900 bases in 150 different countries so STOP regurgitating the MEDIA WHORE lies and do your own thinking!

  133. observer | January 28, 2012 at 10:36 pm |

    jbjd: 1. He says, Obama ignored the court. He did not. This was an administrative hearing, designed to determine whether the SoS had obeyed administrative laws regarding the ballot.
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    I believe this hearing is about the future not the past…..what is to go forward with the suggestions of this judge after weighing information that hadn’t been presented up to this time. It may inadvertently point to a past qualification in error but again there is more real time information that may give the SoS an out for a different decision this time around.
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    Future? READ TODAY’S ARTICLE ON MY BLOG! These fools could have had new ballot in place 3 years ago, if they were concerned about the future! This NBC circus is an industry! Why didn’t they ask the SoS to make rules regarding eligibility, WHILE THEY WERE IN THE OSAH!

    Sorry for shouting. But you are wrong; and Attorney Van Irion knows this. You are making excuses for him, just like Obama’s supporters do for him. I don’t want to know why you suppose Van Irion is lying to you; I want to ask him to tell people why he is saying, he wants an answer to a Constitutional question he knows this administrative forum has no authority, under the law, to determine.

  134. Defense minister Ehud Barak says Israel has no plans to attack Iran and that it is far off. So to say we have to vote for Ron Paul because we don’t want war, I don’t think any of the candidates want war, but they are not going to roll over either, except for Ron Paul.

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    NO ONE’s rolling over…..just getting back to the Constitution and what we are suppose to be….friends to everyone…..time to take off your blinders…

    December 30, 2011
    Prime Minister of Isreal Benjamine Netanyahu Agrees with Ron Paul,

    http://thearizonasentinel.com/2011/12/30/prime-minister-of-isreal-benjamine-netanyahu-agrees-with-ron-paul/

  135. Still in moderation at 7:36 PM.

  136. Thank you bc…….love your posts! :)

  137. A Crazy Old Coot

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    do your own thinking!
    ///////////////////////
    Maybe you should start doing some of your own thinking and quit telling others how to think. I have been around for quite some time and have learned how to think for myself. And YOU are not going to tell me what or how to think.

    Paul wants to give up on the rest of the world and just protect our country. That’s fine as far as it goes, however the world is changing everyday and we can not just sit here sucking on our thumbs. We have to be out in the world and have allies which we help to protect. Paul would cause our country to be wiped off the map by Iran and others by not acknowledging that they don’t like us because of our freedoms and belief systems.

    So, knock it off on telling others how to thinkl!!
    I know that comment was not meant for me, but I did read it and did not like the way it came across!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  138. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 10:29 pm |

    jbjd | January 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    So, how many citizen parents do YOU “think” is required to produce a Natural Born Citizen?
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    I don’t have to think about it. The Constitution confirms in the 14th Amendment, for everyone who thought citizenship only applied to the relationship between the individual states and their residents; U.S. citizenship, native natural born, applies to everyone born here (except foreign embassy staffers, etc.)..

  139. bc | January 28, 2012 at 8:10 pm |

    *UPDATE: Maine Representative Aaron Libby and LL Bean’s Linda Bean Endorse Ron Paul for President!

    “We need to change our cradle-to-grave government mentality. Cutting taxes is not enough. We must reduce the size and cost of our federal government. I am tired of the status quo, big-government politicians of both sides of the aisle. Ron Paul represents real cuts, real change, for a free and prosperous America. I am a Ron Paul Republican,” said Rep. Libby.

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    Great news bc…..I also heard that the Governor of Maine asked to meet with the doc yesterday and they are contemplating another endorsement in the near future from him….Maine is looking really good for Dr. Paul!!!

  140. Dear Ms. Ruff

    KIndly share this message with the Hon. Judge Mahili.

    Dear Hon. Judge Mahili:

    Thank you for doing your job and honoring your oath. You are one of few public servants today who is doing so. I am praying for you.

    I live near Chicago and have followed Barack Obama for many years. When he announced for the Presidency, I was immediately concerned, because he and his wife had been saying he was born in Kenya. There are numerous news articles published prior to 2008 that confirm this narrative. Only in 2007 was a narrative released that he was born in Hawaii. I believed that someone born outside the US could not be a Natural Born Citizen as required under the Constitution.

    I was also concerned because it was common knowledge he claimed his father was Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan who never became a US Citizen. Again I believed that someone born with a divided allegiance resulting from having a parent who was an alien, could never be a Natural Born Citizen. Our Founders wanted to be sure no one would be Commander in Chief who could have allegiance to another country. John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment, testified in Congress that NBC means born here of two US Citizen parents. Our senate in SR 511 unanimously agreed John McCain was NBC because he had US citizen parents. SCOTUS in Minor v Happersett define NBC as born here with two US citizen parents. Statutory construction requires we accept NBC to be different from US Citizen and more restrictive. Therefore, NBC cannot be born here with one US Citizen parent, because such a person may have a divided allegiance.

    I was also concerned because of the depth of corruption in Chicago politics. It is virtually impossible in Chicago to be an honest politician, because so many of them are corrupt. We have had four governors go to jail; and many more IL politicians should be in jail, including Obama. But the Democratic Party here runs the State like the mob would, destroying all its enemies. The people are powerless to change things.

    I encourage you to apply GA law fairly and deny a spot on the ballot to this person who has admitted a parentage that makes them ineligible to hold the office they seek. This is only fair to the GA voters.

    I also hope you will apply whatever power GA law provides you to express the concern of the GA people that this defendant has disrespected your laws and legal procedures. If you could issue a rebuke to the attorney or his client, that would be most helpful.

    This issue is more important than just one candidate on one primary ballot. This case is about whether the United States will remain a Republic under the Constitution. Mr. Obama is moving to destroy our Constitution and our liberties. You are on the front lines of defense for the land so many millions have fought and died to preserve. My Dad and three uncles fought on the front lines to preserve our Freedom. We are now locked in a great battle on our own shores. The weapons differ, but the enemies intent is the same. To destroy America. I beg you to do what you can to turn them back and out flank them in Georgia, so other States may follow your good example.

    Whatever the outcome, please know that millions of Americans, who love our County and wish to honor our Constitution are very grateful for your courage and honesty. We know that the truth will eventually be discovered. And you, Judge Mahili will be remembered by Historians for many years as the first person to really stand in the gap to defend America from its dismantling by this usurper and traitor.

    Thanks again, kind regards, A Natural Born Citizen

  141. A Crazy Old Coot

    The 14th Amendment “only” references citizens, not Natural Born Citizens. Even I a pore country boy can read and understand that. I’m beginning to wonder about your purpose on this blog. Is it to cause confusion and doubt?

    Amendment 14 (1868)
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.
    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  142. bc…this is the MOST important part and the reason that Dr. Paul is the only one who can defeat BO…..

    “He’s very electable, he crosses all ideological lines because of his strong message,” Bean said. “He’s for the gold standard. I think people want stability in this country. He’s for helping America domestically, and staying out of aggressive wars. We’re just spending ourselves down the drain in these countries year after year with occupation.”

  143. Scarolina | January 28, 2012 at 10:57 pm |

    Herman Cain endorses Gingrich for GOP presidential nomination

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    That’s funny…..I know most of his supporters came over to Dr. Paul once he suspended his campaign…..I even know several here in Nevada who are helping us with the Ron Paul campaign….I sat with them last week at the GOP meeting……

    Herman Cain Supporters Flock to Ron Paul
    – Mon, Dec 5, 2011

    HermanCainForums.com founder endorses Paul, urges 18K+ members to follow suit, notes Revolution PAC.

    Northbrook,IL (PRWEB) December 05, 2011
    An online community created in support of Herman Cain for president has now shifted its allegiance to Congressman Ron Paul, notes Revolution PAC. The administrator of HermanCainForums.com, a website with more than 18,000 registered members, publicly endorsed Rep. Paul Saturday following news that Cain dropped from the Republican primary race.

    “I had always liked a lot of what Ron Paul advocates. I don’t agree with him on everything but probably 90 percent,” the administrator, identified by the screen name ‘Constitution,’ said in a post Saturday. “I am going to encourage all Ron Paul supporters to come here and openly support Ron Paul … He is now my new official candidate for president.”

    Continues here…..

    http://news.yahoo.com/herman-cain-supporters-flock-ron-paul-195610208.html

  144. jbjd | January 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    So, how many citizen parents do YOU “think” is required to produce a Natural Born Citizen?
    *******************************************************************************
    I don’t have to think about it. The Constitution confirms in the 14th Amendment, for everyone who thought citizenship only applied to the relationship between the individual states and their residents; U.S. citizenship, native natural born, applies to everyone born here (except foreign embassy staffers, etc.)..
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    This view is contrary to views documented by our Founders, John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment, SCOTUS in Minor v Happersett and the US Senate in SR 511. The is no such condition as native natural born. This is pure obfuscation. NBC means outside the law; therefore no law or regulation or even amendment to the Constitution can change its meaning without expressly doing so. Ark, nor the 14th amendment change what NBC means. Not sure who this person is working for, but they do not support the US Constitution or the United States of America. It seems safe for each visitor to CW to disregard any posting by this person. For accurate legal descriptions, we can read Leo Donofrio and Mario Appuzo, each of whom is a practicing attorney, who has filed cases and who is willing to share their identity. This person who is not willing to share their identity and cannot refute any of the case law or written opinions by Donofrio and Appuzo, should be discounted and disregarded.

  145. “Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.”

    You are right Coot , the LAW STUDENT is wrong again.

  146. Good to see that Perv Herman Cain has endorsed fellow Perv Newt.

    Birds of a feather……..

  147. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    Coot, the way I understand it is that the rules of judicial construction do not allow the 14th Amendment to override what is specifically stated in the Constitution, Article II, Sec. 1, about the requirements for the President to be qualified to hold office. (NBC, with the only exception stated, ” or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution.”) The latter would naturally not apply to anyone living today. How much clearer can it be? We are not stupid.

  148. A Crazy Old Coot | January 28, 2012 at 11:13 pm |

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm |
    do your own thinking!
    ///////////////////////
    Maybe you should start doing some of your own thinking and quit telling others how to think. I have been around for quite some time and have learned how to think for myself. And YOU are not going to tell me what or how to think.

    Paul wants to give up on the rest of the world and just protect our country. That’s fine as far as it goes, however the world is changing everyday and we can not just sit here sucking on our thumbs. We have to be out in the world and have allies which we help to protect. Paul would cause our country to be wiped off the map by Iran and others by not acknowledging that they don’t like us because of our freedoms and belief systems.

    So, knock it off on telling others how to thinkl!!
    I know that comment was not meant for me, but I did read it and did not like the way it came across!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

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    COC…. regurgitating MEDIA goobly goop certainly isn’t thinking for yourself…….the facts show Dr. Paul is RIGHT on foreign policy…the experts agree with him and so do the troops…NOW you can have your opinion but it doesn’t mean it is right….have you heard of BLOWBACK…..this is what happens when we continue to drop bombs in other people’s back yards and on their children….sorry to hear you are such a WAR MONGER but glad that attitude is changing with the majority of the military…… Also….why do we have to always be dividing folks and getting in other countries business…..can’t we be friends with everyone……guess you don’t like the “GOLDEN RULE” either……How would you like it if China started dropping bombs in your back yard just because they could…..we have NO business in these other countries…..ALL THE CHICKEN HAWK war mongers need to send their kids over there….MITTENS has 5 sons…..not one of them enlisted…..NEWTard didn’t serve when he was called and neither did INsantorum…..Dr. Paul is the only one who served his country and was actually in Afghanistan….you all should be ashamed that you are bashing and smearing one of your own and a great American Patriot that he is!

    Foreign Policy Experts Agree with Paul?

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/foreign-policy-experts-agree-with-paul/question-2298819/

  149. When asked by Crazy old Coot about how many US citizen parents it takes to be Natural born citizen JBJD responds, and I quote:
    >>>>JBJD
    I don’t have to think about it. The Constitution confirms in the 14th Amendment, for everyone who thought citizenship only applied to the relationship between the individual states and their residents; U.S. citizenship, native natural born, applies to everyone born here (except foreign embassy staffers, etc.)..<<<<<

    JBJD,
    For the record, right now on this blog, are you officially stating that you believe that Native Born is identical to Natural Born because of the 14th Amendment? You appear to be refuting Leo Donofrio's Amicus Brief (Now accepted into court record) here, but not on his blog where his challenge stands for all lawyers. I don't want to 'assume' and I would like you to state this all in simple language for all here to see.

    Pete

  150. jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    …..you all should be ashamed that you are bashing and smearing one of your own and a great American Patriot that he is!
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    Just because some of us do not want to vote for Dr. Paul does not mean that we are demeaning, bashing and smearing him. I thought we all are entitled to our own opinions for whatever reasons we embrace. Paul supporters need to step back and chill out for a bit.

  151. Hey cw thats okay, you are the>>>blog man! After 3 tries, I understand..Ya all just keep your head where the sun doesn’t shine! I know the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL and then WHAT!!! OMG now what, we are so fu@ked and what do we do now.. Well America WTFU, if not for yourselves how about your children and grandchildren. The REVOLUTION IS ON, either join or be left behind..you are all adults..figure it out..America depends not just on U..We are many, you will see. I for one plan on being FREE!! But I know another status quo and my Father lived it and so have I.. Well you should be Learning..But FREE CHOICE! Promise you, the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE and isn’t that all what WE want? We are LIVING in VERY DANGEROUS TIMES..BELIEVE IT! Hey js AMEN! You my Lady are a Truth seeker. Thank You!

  152. The CIA terror experts agree that Ron Paul is the only candidate with the correct anti-terrorism strategy. We continually meddle in the affairs of the world then are surprised when they attack us. The CIA calls it BLOWBACK. It has happened continuously over the last 40 years as a result of our foreign policy. It happened in Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, and Iran.

    People are sadly mistaken if they think that the United States is blameless for the attacks on 9/11. The CIA and the independent 9/11 Commission report confirmed that one of the primary reasons these Islamic extremists attacked us was because of our foreign policy. They weren’t attacking us because of our freedom, it is the BLOWBACK that the CIA warned would happen. In fact Osama Bin Laden even said it himself! This whole “good” against “evil” deflection is the tactic the Government uses to evade responsibility for the consequences that America’s imperial projects have generated.

    Ron Paul is not an isolationist. He’s not even against going to war. But, per the Constitution, he believes that you must go to war with a DECLARATION of war. Instead our “commander and chief” just does whatever he wants and expects the American people to foot the bill. Ron believes in free trade and talking with countries and being friends with other countries but NOT forcing our way of life and values down their throat. You can’t promote Democracy through the barrel of a gun!!! You can’t overthrow elected governments and expect others to listen to what we have to say.

    If any of you nay sayers care to come out of denial here is a whole thread at Ron Paul forums dedicated just to all the experts who give you the facts….NOT just opinion as to why the Doc is right about his foreign policy proposals……..

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?347627-Experts-who-support-Paul-s-foreign-policy

  153. Cabby,
    I have begun using the 14th Amendment litmus test. Donofrio’s website has a standing challenge to discuss his court brief and historical review, that the 14th Amendment never changed NBC because of Judicial Construction, as you mention. The author of the 14th Amendment said EXACTLY THAT in the congressional record, when specifically asked about the Amendment that he authored. There is not a single mention, not one, in the body of the 14th Amendment that mentions Natural Born Citizen. When people use this, knowing full well that SCOTUS Minor case opinion came out after the 14th Amendment, it is clear that they no longer care for the rule of law, but prefer to make it up as they go along. They are entitled to their opinions, but not to change history and put something in the 14th Amendment that wasn’t there or intended, so they can justify Treason.

    Pete

  154. jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:29 pm |

    Hey, all I did was post a link saying Cain endorsed Newt. I didn’t say anything about him asking his supporters to follow his lead. And do you know for a fact that most of Cain’s supporters are now for Ron Paul?

    You quoted the administrator of HermanCainForums.com, a website with more than 18,000 registered members, publicly endorsed Rep. Paul Saturday following news that Cain dropped from the Republican primary race – - it says the administrator endorsed Paul – not all 18,000 members.

  155. Cabby – AZ | January 29, 2012 at 12:11 am |

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:54 pm |
    …..you all should be ashamed that you are bashing and smearing one of your own and a great American Patriot that he is!
    **********************
    Just because some of us do not want to vote for Dr. Paul does not mean that we are demeaning, bashing and smearing him. I thought we all are entitled to our own opinions for whatever reasons we embrace. Paul supporters need to step back and chill out for a bit.

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    Same old Same old ….YES….MS. CABBY……some are bashing and smearing….some are only posting opinion and then there are others who are purposely posting misinformation that sounds to me like the PROPAGANDA spewed by the media……what ever it is NOT correct and IMO is conducive to bashing and smearing….I am coming behind the comments and setting the record straight so stop with your telling me I need to chill….I’m pretty sure I know the doc’s policies better than most here…I have been reading and researching him for a while now and I do know that he is a true American hero and he would NOT be afraid to go to WAR with anyone if it was declared under the constitution and by Congress….that is NOT what has been going on the last several decades! Just a little bit of truth for you!

  156. Pat 1789 | January 28, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
    “Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.”
    You are right Coot , the LAW STUDENT is wrong again.
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    I read Coot’s link and Van Irion has impressive credentials. He might know something about the law, ya think?

    “Van Irion is the lead counsel and founder of Liberty Legal Foundation. Van is a Constitutional attorney, admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court. He is also a Patent attorney, adjunct Law Professor at the University of Tennessee, former medical researcher, published scientist, and former Republican candidate for Congress for TN03″.

  157. Bingo, Pat1789 hit the nail on the head (law student)…. this ‘jbjd’ talks just like a school kid. KNOW IT ALL, PERIOD.Their taught the Constitution is like a hand full of worms. A living squirming document to be molded and shaped any way they wish.
    I know, I skipper a yacht for a couple of lib lawyers……

  158. Scarolina | January 29, 2012 at 12:24 am |

    jacqlynsmith | January 28, 2012 at 11:29 pm |

    Hey, all I did was post a link saying Cain endorsed Newt. I didn’t say anything about him asking his supporters to follow his lead. And do you know for a fact that most of Cain’s supporters are now for Ron Paul?

    You quoted the administrator of HermanCainForums.com, a website with more than 18,000 registered members, publicly endorsed Rep. Paul Saturday following news that Cain dropped from the Republican primary race – – it says the administrator endorsed Paul – not all 18,000 members.
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    I never said he asked his supporters to support NEWT….but I showed you where the administrator of his forum called on all the Cain supporters to go with Dr. Paul….there is NO way of knowing how many did but from all my reading on various blogs and meeting folks at the GOP meetings in my state I know a lot of them have! I sat next to a couple last week!

    Here’s another person saying the same thing…

    Ron Paul to take majority of Herman Cain supporters? (Video)

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11021601/content/88549730-ron-paul-2012

  159. patriot4usa | January 29, 2012 at 12:12 am |

    Hey cw thats okay, you are the>>>blog man! After 3 tries, I understand..Ya all just keep your head where the sun doesn’t shine! I know the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL and then WHAT!!! OMG now what, we are so fu@ked and what do we do now.. Well America WTFU, if not for yourselves how about your children and grandchildren. The REVOLUTION IS ON, either join or be left behind..you are all adults..figure it out..America depends not just on U..We are many, you will see. I for one plan on being FREE!! But I know another status quo and my Father lived it and so have I.. Well you should be Learning..But FREE CHOICE! Promise you, the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE and isn’t that all what WE want? We are LIVING in VERY DANGEROUS TIMES..BELIEVE IT! Hey js AMEN! You my Lady are a Truth seeker. Thank You!

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    YEP Patriot4usa…..you know me ALL TOO WELL…..LOL ….
    love you…..nice to see you here…..GBU! :)

  160. Gators love Ron Paul: Florida’s welcome party (Video)
    Tallahassee : FL : USA | Jan 25, 2012 at 11:21 PM PST
    By Stephanie Ealy

    Ron Paul’s Florida welcome.

    Ron Paul’s welcome into Florida was similar to the arrival of a winning team returning from the Super Bowl. Upon watching the above YouTube video, maybe you’ll agree with me when I say, “Wake up mainstream media!” They say, “It’s now down to a two-man race.” Really? Well, how do you explain the crowds, oh mighty closed-minded news outlets?

    Crowds of supporters lined the sidewalk chanting, “President Paul! President Paul! President Paul!” Hundreds of “Ron Paul, Restore America” signs were waved back and forth by countless pumped up individuals. A huge electronic reader board, and a neon sign in a vehicle window greeted the campaigning Republican candidate. It was as if there was some kind of a r3VOLution going on!

    To top it off, a university editorial board in The Sunshine State endorsed Ron Paul. The paper, “The Independent Florida Alligator,” touts its mission as: “We Inform. You Decide.” The editors would like you and all who read their news to choose Ron Paul for president of the United States of America. “If you plan to vote in the primary, the Editorial Board of the Alligator encourages you to place your vote for Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas,” they published.

    Liberated Republican

    So what’s the attraction? “Paul is an unconventional candidate who does not fit the standard Republican mold — and that’s why we like him,” they said. Pointing out where their candidate of choice took the high road, they posted, “Unlike his 2008 bid for the White House, his campaign has been on the offensive.” Even though the other Republican candidates took the low road and tried to smear the Texas Congressman on bogus “racist newsletters, the student board goes on to claim, “Paul, Rather than going after his competitors over non-issues like extramarital affairs, he has been attacking the other candidates for their inconsistency and lack of commitment to serious ideas.”

    Why listen to college students?

    So, why should you listen to a bunch of college students? Oh, that’s easy! You see, these studious ones come from a highly acclaimed university, none other than, The University of Florida. It ranks as one of the top educational facilities in the U.S., and is considered a “Public Ivy” university. It’s ranked fifty-eighth overall among all national universities, public and private, in 2012. But wait there’s more! They’re also known for the highest academic marks in the state of Florida.

    They query, “Who would ever think that a top contender for the White House would be talking about ending the Federal Reserve or the war on drugs?”

    Foreign Policy

    As they promise, the students inform with, “Paul believes in a non-interventionist foreign policy. It’s not anti-American, as other candidates have claimed, to evaluate our foreign policy and its influence on the way people behave in the Middle East. Looking at cause and effect and critical thinking should be appreciated by anyone pursuing a college degree.”

    War on drugs

    It’s obvious these students have certainly hit the books on Ron Paul’s positions and understand him. They convincingly point out, “While some have painted Paul as an advocate for drug use, his opposition comes from two main factors. First, he believes the government does not have the right to tell us what we can and cannot put into our own bodies. Second, he believes drug prohibition has perpetuated the spread of drugs and the crime associated with it, similar to the prohibition of the 1920s. It is not ‘soft on crime’ to look at the causes of many criminal actions.”

    Freedom

    “Finally, for college students who have grown up in the post-9/11 era, Paul is the only candidate concerned about the growing infringement of our civil liberties. Even President Obama recently signed the National Defense Authorization Act, a bill that could lead to the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens. He also signed an extension of the Patriot Act.”

    Closing the deal

    Just to make sure no one walks away with a disagreement, these persuasive Gators finish with, “You may not agree with Ron Paul on many issues, but for college-aged voters in the Florida Republican primary, Paul should be your choice.”

    Even though Ron Paul will not be spending much time in Florida, or much money for ads, he has a strategy unlike others, and will spend Friday and Saturday working the crowds in Maine.

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11380185-gators-love-ron-paul-floridas-welcome-party

  161. Pete | January 29, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    When people use this, knowing full well that SCOTUS Minor case opinion came out after the 14th Amendment, it is clear that they no longer care for the rule of law, but prefer to make it up as they go along. They are entitled to their opinions, but not to change history and put something in the 14th Amendment that wasn’t there or intended, so they can justify Treason.
    **********************************
    Pete, well-spoken! Why can ordinary laymen like us discern this and many learned minds don’t? Apparently in many cases it is a willful disregard of truth. I don’t see the wiggle room that so many try to inject.

  162. Before we get too distracted I want to say Thank You to CitizenWElls, etal, our Vets on site. I see you. one and all. Love to Army DAV, I miss you. xo

    Please whatever we do. Let’s stick together. Anyone but barky and the board members come 2012. United We Stand, Divided WE Got Alinskied.

    ~ we hold these Truths to Be self-evident in order to create a more perfect Union…> America. The Beautiful Just the way WE are.

    ~ never forget Board Games. xo Papoose

    CW, thank you. gratitude. appreciation, The News> This Was aThe Week That Was…everyday,

  163. and one more thing.

    you can be whatever you want to be in the House of Representatives and the Senate. Have at it. The more, the merrier. fanatics, bring it.

    ~ except when it comes to being President or Vice President. And higher still, The Commander In Chief. The Duty to Defend and Protect…

    you have to be a full blooded American at the time of your birth (you can only inherit Natural Born Citizenship as it cannot be acquired). you should be born in a city in the Nation unless you have a really good excuse); you must have lived in America for 14 years straight and attained age 35. You must speak English without a foreign accent…that’s all.

    jus sanguine; jus soli. naturally.

  164. Wasn’t Ron Pual on CW’s Wall of Shame?

  165. no, it was my Dad, Trude.

  166. There goes MMMMSSSSS. Smith again! Now she has APPOINTED herself as SPOKESMAN for ALL of the people of FLORIDA.
    That makes her the self appointed spokesman for ALL US VETS, and the SELF APPOINTED spokesman for ALL Floridians. BOY SHE IS REALLY IMPOOOOORTANT! I bet she even drives the most expensive SUV that money can buy. The expensive SUV is one of the toys that people like her think makes them IMPOOORTANT. MMMMSSSS. Smith perports to know all about veterans, That must include ALL wars we have ever been in as well. The way she writes tells me that she HASN’T BEEN ON EARTH LONG ENOUGH to know what all vets think. Further to imply that we ashould be ASHAMED is not in our make up to start with. The use of that word against a Korean war vet, and against another vet on this blog is initself a SHAMEFUL, and extremely unintelligent statement. Of course it comes from a person who hasn’t the slightest idea what is actually in the minds of vets. She BLOWS that she haas relatives who are vets . If this is the truth then she should be the LAST person on earth to imply that vets are disconnected from reality. In fact it is quite the opposite. One of the primary reasons why a semblance of reality still exists in America is a direct result of those who went there but DIDN’T RETURN. Obviously MMMMSSSSS Smith thinks she knows all about them and what they thought as well. Once reiterate, MMMMSSSS Smith talks like one of the OVEREDUCATED CHILD PRODIGIES who believe that they HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. Further is the fact that a group of 100 people dressed in military fatigues, DOESN’T mean that they are in fact military people. So MMMMSSSSS Smith perhaps you should look a little further and determine if the people that you think are military are in fact the real McCoy.I can honestly state that I am the real McCoy . If you wish I will be glad to demonstrate how much of a HORSES behind you are by posting my HONORABLE Discharge online. The question in my mind is whether you will even know what you are looking at. I would strongly suspect that I served and was already discharged LONG before MMMSSS Smith was even ON EARTH.

  167. CabbyAZ……………
    It would seem that if Brewer was really angered with Soetoro she would go to the Arizona legislature and ask them why a NEW eligibility bill is NOT on her desk. Did you have a chance to see the arrival of the (ALLEGED) CINC.
    BTW a SNOT NOSED SCUM BAG made threats to kill Sherriff Arpiao. I have read that they now have him in custody. He also threatened to kill Arpiao’s family. Making such threats on the internet falls under the NEW internet regs, and hopefully he will get a taste of some pretty hairy medicine for his efforts. The last I heard the fine could go as high as $100,000.00. as well as incarceration. Since he threatened a LAW ENFORCEMENT officer it could be taken to the top of the penalty. I hope he gets a really tough sentence.

  168. BTW…………….I and in all probability all the rest of America’s veterans will NEVER BE ASHAMED of having stood up for what we believe in. Nor will I ever personally be ASHAMED of having said what I believe in. As I understand it we have that right under the Constitution. If MMMMSSSS.Smith finds what I and a couple of other vets happen to think as offensive to her, so be it. This is a blog!

    BYE BYE getting ready for DR. visit today.

  169. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Jonah | January 28, 2012 at 3:46 am |
    Hmmmmmmm? Bush, the Elder and Jeb make an unscheduled visit to the White House. IIRC didn’t Papa Bush make a similar visit to BO a year or two ago? I wonder what’s up?……………..
    _________________________________________

    Does this sort of remind you of the Nixon era? Unannounced important people making surprise visits just before the collapse!

  170. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I happened to catch a few minutes with Coasttocoastam last night at about 3AM EST, and the new guest host was interviewing Stewart Rhodes, founder of The Oath Keepers. The host said it was the first time in the show’s history that a blackout occurred.
    I wikipedied up Oath Keepers this morning and got the following.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers

    READ THE ORGANIZATIONAL HISTORY

  171. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Sat a prayer for Rick Santorum’s 3 year old daughter, Isabella’

    “Rick Santorum cancels campaign events due to sick daughter”

    http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2012/january/375636/Rick-Santorum-cancels-campaign-events-due-to-sick-daughter

  172. The media elects who ever they really want to fit their agenda. i give romney credit making himself look like a dem and play the middle card so far its working for him. the natural born stuff would be demonized by the media if they wanted to twist the meaning ver easily. i have so many friends who education is the square box on the wall. zombies.

  173. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | January 29, 2012 at 9:01 am | Sat a prayer for Rick Santorum’s 3 year old daughter, Isabella’

    ========================
    Prayers said. I think the worth of a country and its leader is how they treat the most truly vulnerable.

  174. jbjd: Future? READ TODAY’S ARTICLE ON MY BLOG! These fools could have had new ballot in place 3 years ago, if they were concerned about the future! This NBC circus is an industry! Why didn’t they ask the SoS to make rules regarding eligibility, WHILE THEY WERE IN THE OSAH!

    ……………..Sorry for shouting. But you are wrong;
    =====================
    Coulda shoulda…..We’re living with the latest actual hearings, submitted evidence and testimony under oath before a judge who must make recommendations NOW to a SoS who has also given a rather ominous warning about the results of a no show defense. You can live in textbooks with their own various nuances to what can still be litigated re: the big question at hand, but real people and the circumstances in which they are either placed or where they have placed themselves by their own statements. So, whatever was or wasn’t done in the past according to your stipulations has moved on to the present and the future decisions. Perhaps beyond advice in the past you “should have” yourself chosen your own brilliant litigator and presented the “proper” steps to being heard….that is, if you could have found during those times a judge/person not politicized or “terrorized” to cross the forbidden bridge of daring to challenge the present regime and their lacky media lemmings willing to do great harm to anyone with such courage.

  175. Minor v. Happersett only speaks to the fact, before the court could consider whether voting rights in the state were one of the “privileges and immunities” which the 14th Amendment said had to apply equally to its citizens; it has to determine whether Minor was a citizen, since nowhere is this word defined in the Constitution. So, as a threshold issue, the court considered whether Minor was a citizen. The court took into account Minor’s birth circumstances: born in the U.S., of 2 U.S. citizen parents. It went through an extensive analysis and concluded that under these specific circumstances, no one has ever doubted she would be considered “native” “natural born.” (Both terms are used in that decision to describe her status.) So, confident it had sufficient legal grounds on which to rule she was a citizen; the court then examined whether voting could be defined as a privilege and immunity.

    Making fun of me doesn’t alter the status of the law. And adopting a particular interpretation of the law because you favor the person espousing one view over the person insisting on the other; has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of either opinion.

    But you already know that.

  176. Still in moderation at 7:36 last night.

  177. Just to note,

    Ron Paul will not win the Nomination. Ron Paul will soon drop out. Ron Paul will not run on a third party ticket. For not doing so, the established GOP will promise Ron Paul a “Speakers Position” at the 2012 GOP Convention.

    No matter how many Ron Paul fans are upset and still trying to push to gain more supporters for him, it simply is not there, never was there, and never will be.

  178. William. I think your analysis is spot on. I will gladly look at Rand next time around.

  179. JBJB
    the GA law is pretty clear, CW posted it several times, go back and read it. When you do, you will see that you are wrong in many areas.

    Chief Justice Waite, said in common day language….let there be no doubt that the framers meant natural born citizen to mean born in the nation AND to parents who are citizens of the nation. No doubt. This was said AFTER the 14th amendment was passed. The Leo Donofiro recent post on INS also confirms the difference between naturalization and natural born citizen.
    John Bingham the author of the amendment said the same thing. Anyone using the 14th amendment to justify obullshit’s status is wrong, obullshit liars are not even using it. They refused to show up in court of law. Obullshit has said “WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO STANDING,WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO JURISDICTION, WE THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM LAST TIME (judge denied that position), WE THE PEOPLE WROTE A BRIEF TOO LONG TO READ. Not once has Obullshit said “I AM ELIBIGIBLE”. NO where does he say that in court of law. But he does say “I released by BC in 2010″ Really, then how did smellosi, harry the rat, and biden certify him in 2008 ??

    JBJB you are turning into an obot, if you are the real jbjb or maybe some obot hijacked your alias.

  180. JBJB
    the GA law is pretty clear, CW posted it several times, go back and read it. When you do, you will see that you are wrong in many areas.

    Chief Justice Waite, said in common day language….let there be no doubt that the framers meant natural born citizen to mean born in the nation AND to parents who are citizens of the nation. No doubt. This was said AFTER the 14th amendment was passed. The Leo Donofiro recent post on INS also confirms the difference between naturalization and natural born citizen.
    John Bingham the author of the amendment said the same thing. Anyone using the 14th amendment to justify obullamo status is wrong, obullama liars are not even using it. They refused to show up in court of law. Obullsheet has said “WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO STANDING,WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO JURISDICTION, WE THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM LAST TIME (judge denied that position), WE THE PEOPLE WROTE A BRIEF TOO LONG TO READ. Not once has Obull said “I AM ELIBIGIBLE”. NO where does he say that in court of law. But he does say “I released by BC in 2010″ Really, then how did smellosi, harry the rat, and biden certify him in 2008 ??

    JBJB you are turning into an obot, if you are the real jbjb or maybe some obot hijacked your alias.

  181. 1. He says, Obama ignored the court. He did not. This was an administrative hearing, designed to determine whether the SoS had obeyed administrative laws regarding the ballot.
    >>>the adm laws according GA election code are pretty clear, go back and read them. This COURT was conveyed to determine whether the judge had sufficient information to provide the SOS with a recommendation on the complaint (per GA code) as to whether obummer should be allowed on the ballot. GO BACK AND READ THE MANY POSTINGS OF THE CODE ON THIS SITE. You are wrong about your position, provide some backup or I will say once again your post is decimated.

  182. A Crazy Old Coot

    Just for some general background on myself:
    1. I am NOT a lawyer, I would never lower myself to that level.
    2. I AM a military retiree, and proud of it, just not proud of my government.
    3. I have been trained on government security clearance requirements.
    a. One of the first requirements is a Release form signed by the applicant for release of an original/certified birth certificate.
    b. Another requirement is a Release form for medical records.
    c. One other Release form is for all educational records.

    Has Mr. obama submitted those release forms?

  183. 1. He says, Obama ignored the court. He did not. This was an administrative hearing, designed to determine whether the SoS had obeyed administrative laws regarding the ballot.

    >>prove it, the GA code says this court can make a recommendation to the SOS regarding ballot complaints. What part of the SOS is not clear to you?
    “In following the procedures set forth in the Georgia Election Code, I expect the administrative law judge to report his findings to me after his full consideration of the evidence and law. Upon receipt of the report, I will fully and fairly review the entire record and initial decision of the administrative law judge.

    Anything you and your client place in the record in response to the challenge will be beneficial to my review of the initial decision; however, if you and your client choose to suspend your participation in the OSAH proceedings, please understand that you do so at your own peril.”

    2. He says, he wanted the court to rule on a Constitutional question. But, again, this was not a court of law; and, more importantly, this OSAH has no legal authority to rule on a question of Constitutional interpretation.

    “See above the SOS of GA disagrees with that statement, as does many STATE election codes. Read Nevada’s among others. First you say that this matter needs to be addressed in the states, and now you are saying something else. Make up your mind. The SOS clearly says “evidence and the law”, the constitution is the law. Your post is decimated yet again. SOS also refers to GA election code. READ THE CODE before you post here.

    3. He says, Obama disrespects the separation of powers by ignoring this judicial tribunal. Again, this was not a judicial tribunal and, in fact, the OSAH is part of the Executive branch of government, and not the Judicial branch.

    >>>The legislature of GA gave the judicial branch the powers to hear such complaints WHEN THEY WROTE THE CODE. Elections are held under the executive branch, but matters of disagreement were passed over to a judge to hear the case in a court of law. Again go back and read the GA CODE. How many TIMES do I HAVE to type in BOLD letters to make you GO BACK AND READ THE CODE? Case was heard in FULTON COUNTY COURT HOUSE, not in SOS DEPT OFFICES. DOH……

    Finally, no one but a ‘birther’ believes Minor stands for the proposition that only 2 citizen parents can produce a natural born citizen. And, as I can attest, not all birthers think he has any idea what he is talking about.

    >>>you are clueless with this last statement, obviously you need an education. as you are clearly misinformed, or repeatedly refuse to listen or have a comprehension problem. Patrick Leahy said two parents are required as citizens to be natural born citizen. Vattel said the same thing. INS code also says there is difference between the class of naturalized and natural born citizen. Chief Justice Waite said the same thing. There is more and more historical evidence pointing towards the Vattel definition, including the John Jay letter that didn’t want foreigners to be president, and federalist papers stating against dual allegiances. Your position on this matter is weak and not supported historically or by precedence in court matters. Go read Leo Donofrio’s amicus brief to the court of Georgia and learn about the historical and court case references. You will be surprised. Offer counter cases , you will find none. Your home work assignment: counter Leo’s brief with your own case study. I am waiting.

  184. Minor v. Happersett only speaks to the fact, before the court could consider whether voting rights in the state ……it did alot more than that, it set precedence, not dicta. As in several CASES after this case, it was referenced. Go read Leo Donofrio’s amicus brief BEFORE your try and MARGINALIZE the impact of the statement …….”let there be no doubt that the framers meant natural born citizen to be born of the nation and to parents of that are citizens of the nation.” Pretty clear statement to me, and many others. What is your problem with it ? The INS even calls it out , as separate definition from “naturalized” citizenship. John Jay even called it out.

  185. As a foreigner but someone who has U.S. citizen relatives, I come to the defence of da verg and Pete in particular who have more of an idea on the citizenship issues than the resident “legal mind”.

    I will state this quite plainly:

    1. If an American citizen is married to say an Australian citizen, and they have children, then those children are citizens of the USA. However that does not give them the automatic right to run for President.

    2. If the Australian citizen did not become an American citizen prior to giving birth to her children, then those children retain the native born status, BUT they are not NBC because their mother is not an American citizen at the time of their birth.

    Now, relate this to the purported facts concerning Østupid and you get:

    1. An American citizen mother who is under the age for conferring citizenship according to the laws of the country, and a man who is a British citizen by virtue of the fact that he was born in the British colony of Kenya gives birth (location might or might not be Hawaii).

    2. Since the purported father is a British citizen this means that British citizenship was conferred upon the child at the time of birth per the laws of both the USA and the UK at the time.

    It is by the virtue of the dual citizenship that Østupid is not eligible to run for President.

    Now look at three other cases:

    1. John McCain was born in Panama to US citizen parents who were in the military. Panamania citizenship was not conferred on John McCain at the time of his birth. He is a citizen of the USA, and according to the exception regarding the children born overseas to diplomatic parents, he more than likely IS to be regarded as NBC.

    2. Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico to two US citizen parents. Here the line is a little bit blurred because they were not diplomats, and that would mean that the NBC might not necessarily apply in this case. However, he is a US citizen according to what is known about the conferring of citizenship. He was not a citizen of Mexico.

    3. Mitt Romney is the next case. Since his father is a US citizen because he was born to US citizens, then Mitt Romney should be considered as NBC, especially if he was born in the USA.

    The only glaring case is that of Østupid and since the only document provided is fraudulent there continues to be little proof of his actual status. He continues to hide something.

  186. William | January 29, 2012 at 10:25 am |

    Just to note,

    Ron Paul will not win the Nomination. Ron Paul will soon drop out. Ron Paul will not run on a third party ticket. For not doing so, the established GOP will promise Ron Paul a “Speakers Position” at the 2012 GOP Convention.

    No matter how many Ron Paul fans are upset and still trying to push to gain more supporters for him, it simply is not there, never was there, and never will be.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ron Paul is NOT dropping out…..he said so again this morning and his support is growing by the day….people who REALLY love this country want someone they can trust….the only one who is consistent, unwavering and uncorruptable is Dr. Paul…..he is and will be our “MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON”! IMO and the opinion of many…..It will be Dr. Paul or BO…..time to buck up and make the choice GOP!!!

  187. A Crazy Old Coot

    I’ve made my choice and it is NOT Paul!

  188. thank you Aussie

  189. re; Aussie

    Ill take issue w/romny..

    When Mitt Romney’s father George Romney ran for President in 1968, nobody seemed to care that he was born in Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico. The media just assumed that because his parents were allegedly US citizens he was too. The media never really questioned the possibility that Romney’s ancestors, who voluntarily left the Utah territory for Mexico before Utah became a state in 1896, may not have been citizens within the meaning of the Fourteen Amendment. They, like many other Mormoms, may have left because they opposed the conditions forced on Utah to become a state, like the elimination of polygamy. They, like many other Mormons who were in Utah during the so-called Utah War, may never have accepted the authority of the United States over the Utah territory. Many Mormon settlers tried and failed to set up a theocracy called Deseret. In other words, the Romneys may not have been “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States such that they were born citizens under the Fourteen Amendment.

    http://naturalborncitizen.com/

  190. FL primary opens door to Obama eligibilty challenge, Florida statutes allow contest, 10 day window, Circuit court, Obama natural born citizen deficiency

    “Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense, to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

    “Why did Obama employ Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie, to request an advisory opinion on FEC matching funds that he was not eligible for?”…Citizen Wells

    “Why is Obama now employing private attorneys to keep his name on state ballots, despite compelling evidence that he is not a natural born citizen?…Citizen Wells

    The Florida 2012 presidential preference primary took place yesterday, January 31, 2012. The big news in the mainstream media is Mitt Romney winning by a substantial margin. The big news here, news you can sink your teeth into, is that now, Obama’s eligibilty to be on the Florida ballot can be challenged. There are 10 days to file a challenge in circuit court.

    A challenger discovered this recently.

    “Below and attached is a scanned copy of the letter I just received from the Secretary of State, AKA Florida Supervisor of Elections, in response to the Obama Ballot Challenge I filed 9 January 2012 with him and Attorney General Pam Bundi. The Constitution of the State of Florida (1838) and as amended through 2008 and by adoption of the 2012 Federal Qualifying Handbook (October 2011) the State of Florida has accepted the qualifications for President and Vice President listed therein, based solely on the Certifications of Qualifications from the Political Parties.Read carefully, looks like we have no protection from fraud by either Party. Still waiting for response from the Attorney General.
    Vern H. Goding, Ret. OathKeeper.
    Melbourne Village, Fl 32904″

    Response from Gary Holland, Assistant General Counsel.

    “After an election, section 102.168, Florida Statutes, provides that any unsuccessful candidate for the office being sought, any voter qualified to vote in the election, or any taxpayer may file an election contest in the circuit court based upon the successful candidates’s ineligibility for the office sought. Such contest must be brought within 10 days of the date the last board responsibe for certifiying the results officially ceetified the results of the election being contested.”

    http://obamaballotchallenge.com/sunshine-state-shenanigans

    As reported at Citizen Wells in 2008 and 2012, the Florida Statutes.

    Florida Election statutes
    “Title IX
    102.168 Contest of election.–

    “(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or nomination of any person to office, or of the result on any question submitted by referendum, may be contested in the circuit court by any unsuccessful candidate for such office or nomination thereto or by any elector qualified to vote in the election related to such candidacy, or by any taxpayer, respectively.

    (2) Such contestant shall file a complaint, together with the fees prescribed in chapter 28, with the clerk of the circuit court within 10 days after midnight of the date the last board responsible for certifying the results officially certifies the results of the election being contested.

    (3) The complaint shall set forth the grounds on which the contestant intends to establish his or her right to such office or set aside the result of the election on a submitted referendum. The grounds for contesting an election under this section are:”

    “(b) Ineligibility of the successful candidate for the nomination or office in dispute.”

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0100-0199/0102/Sections/0102.168.html

    Florida has a procedure for advisory opinions.

    “Division of Election Advisory Opinions
    Who May Request an Opinion?
    By law, the Division of Elections may provide advisory opinions only to a supervisor of elections, candidate, local officer having election related duties, political party, political committee, committee of continuous existence or other person or organization engaged in political activity, relating to any provisions or possible violations of Florida election laws.

    Legal Effect of an Opinion:
    The Division of Elections provides a historical database of advisory opinions for reference purposes only. An advisory opinion represents the Division’s interpretation of the law applicable at the time the opinion is issued, as applied to a particular set of facts or chcircumstances, and is binding solely on the person or organization who requested the opinion. A previously issued advisory opinion may or may not apply to your situation depending upon your particular facts and circumstances and the current state of applicable law. Therefore, before drawing any legal conclusions based upon the information in this database, you or an attorney engaged on your behalf should refer to the current Florida Statutes, rules adopted by the Division of Elections, and applicable case law.”

    http://election.dos.state.fl.us/opinions/TOC_Opinions.shtml

    Abdul Hassan received the following advisory opinion response from Florida.

    “Section 103.021, Florida Statutes, as amended by Ch. 2011-40, § 45, Laws of Florida (2011), governs ballot access in Florida for presidential candidates who have no party affiliation and those who_are the nominees of political parties. Assuming you satisfy all requirements of section 103.021, the Secretary of State of Florida performs only a ministerial function as a filing officer for such candidates. The Secretary of State has no authority to look beyond the filing documents to determine i f a candidate is eligible. The Florida Supreme Court long ago stated: “The law does not give the secretary of state any power or authority to inquire into or pass upon the eligibility of a candidate to hold office for the nomination for which he is running.” Davis ex rel. Taylor v. Crawford, 116 So. 41, 42 (Fla. 1928). I f a presidential candidate (or the party in the
    case of a political party nominee) files the required papers under Chapter 1 03, Florida Statutes, which papers are complete on their face, the Secretary must grant ballot access to the candidate. However, the Secretary’s ministerial granting of ballot access would not preclude litigation from proper plaintiffs to remove a candidate’s name from the ballot if the candidate does not satisfy the qualifications for the office of President of the United States.”
    http://election.dos.state.fl.us/opinions/new/2011/de1103.pdf

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