Otis Mayberry and Mount Airy town drunk impersonator guilty of blocking sidewalk, Otis handcuffed taken to jail and fined, Andy Griffith show world gone

Otis Mayberry and Mount Airy town drunk impersonator guilty of blocking sidewalk, Otis handcuffed taken to jail and fined, Andy Griffith show world gone

“Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Memorize them until you can say them in your sleep. Rule number one: obey all rules. Rule number two: no writing on the walls.”…Barney Fife

“When a man carries a gun all the time, the respect he thinks he’s getting might really be fear. So I don’t carry a gun because I don’t want the people of Mayberry to fear a gun. I’d rather they respect me.”…Sheriff Andy Taylor

In the old days of the Andy Griffith Show, of growing up in NC and the days long gone by of common sense and smaller government, Otis, or anyone else violating a minor infraction of the law which didn’t really hurt anybody, would have been mildly chastised and left alone. You know, since no harm was done.

It all started with Andy Griffith endorsing Obamacare. Well not really, but symbolically yes. Barn, Barney Fife would have issued a warning ticket or worst case arrested Otis and brought him before Andy. Andy would have applied common sense, small government reasoning and let Otis go.

Not anymore. Welcome to the age of big government and big brother.

From the Greensboro News & Record February 18, 2012.

“‘Otis’ town drunk impersonator guilty of blocking sidewalk”

“A man known for portraying Otis the town drunk in downtown Mount Airy was found guilty Friday of obstructing a city sidewalk.

James E. Slate, 64, was fined $50 for the ordinance violation by Judge Chuck Neaves after a hearing in Surry District Court.

However, Slate filed a notice of appeal through his attorney, Erik R. Ashman, which paves the way for the case to be tried in front of a jury in Superior Court.

Slate’s arrest last April by Mount Airy police has brought widespread attention, given its tie-in to Mayberry and his frequent appearances as Otis. This usually includes wearing a seersucker suit and hat and carrying props such as a moonshine jug and set of jail keys.

The Otis impersonator was handcuffed and taken to the Surry County Jail in Dobson after what police have described as repeat violations of a nearly 50-year-old municipal ordinance that prohibits placing items on walkways in front of downtown stores.

They specifically cited the presence of a checkerboard, table and chairs on the sidewalk in front of Slate’s son’s store, where Slate — himself a former city policeman and a disabled veteran — often plays checkers with tourists. But police have said he wasn’t playing the game or dressed as Otis at the time of his arrest and that Slate ignored multiple warnings to remove the items.

The table was against the building and stuck out less than a foot.

In District Court Friday, Ashman argued vigorously that defined distances of where walkways end in relation to a building are unclear and the city ordinance is too broad. He produced a tax map showing that the property line of the Slate store stretches 10 feet from the building. The attorney said Slate didn’t obstruct anyone, and asked that the case be dismissed.

However, the judge — in finding Slate guilty — indicated the ordinance was clear-cut on the matter of items placed on public sidewalks, according to Slate. And Neaves said he had no choice but to render that verdict although he considered the violation to be minor.

Slate said he pondered whether to appeal the case, since the $50 fine represents a “cheap” way to end the matter that had come to court six times previously and been continued on each occasion for varying reasons. The man who portrays Otis said his reasoning in having a notice of appeal filed was that the case is not about money, but principle.”

http://www.news-record.com/content/2012/02/18/article/otis_town_drunk_impersonator_guilty_of_blocking_sidewalk

Perhaps we need to yell “Citizens arrest citizens arrest” at Obama.

 

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62 responses to “Otis Mayberry and Mount Airy town drunk impersonator guilty of blocking sidewalk, Otis handcuffed taken to jail and fined, Andy Griffith show world gone

  1. CW, now you are pulling at my memory heartstrings! I’ve always loved the Andy Griffith series (also the following Mayberry RFD) and am probably revealing an idealistic side – Just can’t help it!

    Even watching reruns when they are available transports me back to the days of small government, family values, and good, strong morals.

    We have come so far, so fast, down the slippery slope. One can still dream at times. (I was very disgusted at Andy when he obligingly endorsed Obamacare but chalked it up to failing age.)

  2. Cabby,
    Andy Griffith has always been a big lib.
    Portraying a small town conservative sheriff was just an act.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101020160656AAmORMr

  3. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Sorry OT – Just got through watching the Whitney Houston service. I got the feeling “Our Nation’s Soul” went with her.
    God Bless Whitney on her trip to Heaven.

    “Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, Put out my hand and touched the face of God” – From High Flight

    I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU BY WHITNEY HOUSTON

    _______________________________________________

  4. Oh CW,
    My family has visited NC for vacation since I was itty bitty. Always loved it. I have such fond memories. I even bumped into Andy Griffith about ten years ago at a restaurant on the Outer Banks.
    Over the years, though, my family noticed that many people from the NE settled there, and changed things drastically. I suppose they were seeking a better climate, but why couldn’t they leave well enough alone.
    I don’t know how to put my feelings into words. Arrest Otis? Preposterous!

  5. BTW, my understanding is that Andy grew up in the tiny town of Manteo, from which he drew many of his experiences. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  6. An email I received today. Anyone remember this about our usurper?

    Forward this as received, but without comment.
    Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do.
    Few were listening.

    The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised “Meet The Press.”

    From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008, 11:48:04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” the then Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.

    General Bill Ginn, USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…

    During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention, facing the flag, with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”.

    NOW GET THIS !!

    ‘Senator’ Obama replied:

    “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides…..” “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression….” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air, and all that sort of thing.”

    (ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)

    Obama continued:, “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – – – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ……..”
    “When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts . We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice,which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag, and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past.”

    “Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United Statesand I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.”

    WHAT is that?

    Yes, you read it right.

    I, for one, am speechless!!!

    Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

  7. Ron Paul: When the Republic Returns

  8. SueQ.
    Andy grew up in Mt. Airy.
    He was a cast member of “The Lost Colony” early in his career & bought
    property there years ago.

  9. Thanks CW,
    bob strauss, do you have a link? Not that I doubt you one bit?

  10. Brett Stillings talks about his training with classmate Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama)

  11. Rob@6:51pm
    Do you honestly believe this stuff? Please go away! You obviously don’t belong here. You take us for idiots.

  12. Who the heck is Lisam Harrison anyway?

  13. When he was four, Ahmadinejad’s family changed their name from Sabourjian, a common Jewish name for weaver of the Sabour. Some say his anti-Semitism is overcompensation for being born Jewish. Even worse are Barry’s various names, Shabbazz, Soebarkah, Soetoro, Dunham, Obama. His racism seems to stem from his being born half white; and is aggravated by a long history of abandonment by the men in his life: Malcolm Little, Soetoro, Davis, Obama Sr. , etc. Only a few females have his ear.

  14. SueQ, this stuff by several fluff-balls re. time travel to Mars, with Obama, etc., is nothing but looney, imaginative wanderings of easily impressed people with the help of hallucinogenic substances, you can be sure.

    Here’s the deal, in my opinion. Why is this “info” coming to the fore NOW?
    Because it is an attempt by O supporters to detract from the real issues of O’s ineligibility (NBC) which are being raised in many states as we speak to try to keep O off of their ballots.

    The uninformed are much more attracted to Mars’ fanciful stories than to substantive issues like NBC.

    Rob – 6:51 PM
    Stop posting this trash. We see through it.

  15. Thanks, Bob Strauss

    Wading through the interview by Tim Russert with BO. Really miss TR. He was decent man.

  16. Cabby,
    My thoughts exactly! Only I will go a step further and suggest that O supporters want to get us hung up in this nonsense so they can point and say “Look at those Birther loonies!”

  17. Sue Q, here’s another one, lots of obfuscation going on surrounding this subject. I waded through the TR tape Obama didn’t say anything about the flag, it supposedly was on Meet The Press, 9/7/08 at 11:48.04 EST.

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-pin.htm

  18. White Flag Over The White House
    (quote)
    The malignant intent of the man who occupies the White House has never been clearer.

    Even as his toadies in the Pentagon defend his scheme to eviscerate the Army and Marine Corps and return our fleets back to pre-Pearl Harbor levels comes word that Barack Obama plans to simultaneously gut our nuclear arsenal by nearly 80%.  The President of the United States, whose primary responsibility is the protection of the nation, is engaged in unilateral disarmament.
    [...] A level of 300 deployed strategic nuclear weapons would take the U.S. back to levels not seen since 1950…

    (snip)

    And as he mothballs our military, Barack Obama will shovel billions of tax dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood via aid to the so-called “Arab Spring” nations:
    [...] The White House announced plans on Monday to help “Arab Spring” countries swept by revolutions with more than $800 million in economic aid, while maintaining U.S. military aid to Egypt. (Islamists Rejoice|Stakelbeck On Terror)
    Read more:

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2734278%3ABlogPost%3A331005&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

  19. SueQ | February 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    SueQ, you make a really good point there, also, about trying to get birthers to fall for Mars’ stories to discredit our validity. it ain’t goin’ work! They take us for fools.

  20. To my post of 8:22 pm, I might add that while O wants the U.S. to eviscerate OUR nuclear arsenal, it seems to be okay with him for Iran to pursue its nuclear arsenal and be a threat to us and the rest of the world.

  21. Bob Strauss:

  22. Anyone remember Rob’s bogus story about Obama’s Truth Team Logo (broken swastika)? The real logo was bad enough, but he was appealing to the naive to get them off subject and make them look foolish.

  23. Cabby – AZ | February 18, 2012 at 8:22 pm |

    White Flag Over The White House
    (quote)
    The malignant intent of the man who occupies the White House has never been clearer
    **********************************
    That’s why the framers of the Constitution insisted on having a natural born Citizen as President, that way the enemy with divided loyalties, wouldn’t be in charge of disarming the United States of America.

  24. bob strauss, you are SO right about the importance of the NBC clause! Now we are seeing first-hand how devastating it can be when a usurper sits in the W.H. as CiC.

    SueQ – I remember the post but forgot that it was Rob’s. Yes, I tried to research that logo and couldn’t find any other independent source for it. We do have to be very wary of false reporting. Were you able to find the real logo? Good that you were astute to what was taking place.

  25. My 8:40 video is in moderation. (for Bob Strauss) Thanks.

  26. HERE IS A GREAT SPEECH BY DR. RON PAUL!!!!

    PLEASE WATCH AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THIS 100% MUST HEAR GREAT SPEECH OF DR. RON PAUL!!!!

    GO DR. RON PAUL!!!!
    GO DR. LAURIE ROTH!!!!

    * * * *

  27. Yes, you both are right…The obots come out with all these whacky stories to show how naive some are. Then they can say the birthers are a bunch of loons. I expect the Kenyan birth stories to start flooding the net as well.

  28. Here’s the deal, in my opinion. Why is this “info” coming to the fore NOW?
    Because it is an attempt by O supporters to detract from the real issues of O’s ineligibility (NBC) which are being raised in many states as we speak to try to keep O off of their ballots.
    ==============================
    Granted the “Mars travel”/time travel “training” appears pretty absurd….yet the experimental programs themselves/affiliated with CIA/defense projects, DARPA with an Obama fellow “Mars trainee” now the head, appointed by himself, are pretty readily acknowledged by the intelligence community…you have a lot of strange people/”talents” in the CIA.

    Mr. Basiago’s involvement in advanced US time-space research as a child, as well as Courtney M. Hunt’s identity as a career CIA officer, have been confirmed by Dr. Jean Maria Arrigo, an ethicist who works closely with US military and intelligence agencies, and by US Army Captain Ernest Garcia, whose storied career in US intelligence included both serving as a guard on the Dead Sea Scroll expeditions of Israeli archaeologist Yigal Yadin and as the Army security attaché to Project Pegasus.

    Also… the current identity angle vs the BC angle is actually more readily usable in the present while no one can get their hands on any original BC documents as guarded as they are, if any exist. But there IS available the one and only form that appears to have been grabbed before it got hidden is the grammar school entrance document…as Barry Soetoro….as well as witnesses at Occidental who speak only of knowing the man as Barry Soetoro. It wasn’t until the transfer to Columbia (and allegedly due to CIA programs there that worked out transfers of such students with CIA connections) where he was unknown by other contemporaries…and now allegedly because of being involved mostly in CIA projects while in area. At that point was the Obama pan African legend created by CIA in order to infiltrate black activist groups. Then was able to ride that identity to wh where he allegedly took the oath of office under the false Obama name where there is no evidence of legally being changed from Soetoro (and for that matter, what was legally used before Soetoro???)….therefore perjury….therefore impeachable offense….and reason for hiding the former Soetoro identity and focusing folks on Obama “BC” while HI officials and others possibly/probably having the orders via CIA not to cooperate due to “national security” and standing behind phony BC shown to the public!! Also there is a basis there then for having to phony up a fraudulent SSN under the phony Obama identity since there was no legal name change to Obama…..and…..there ARE evidential responses from SSA that there is no match between alleged phony SSN and Obama name. Who knows if he has any SSN under the Soetoro name, but if he does he couldn’t expose it once the Obama legend was in full swing.

    Frankly, I’ll take any lead that would be more usable with actual evidence than hoping ad infinitum for actual documents that will not be allowed to be “discovered”. Getting beyond any actual “time travel”, there apparently was such a project/s and apparently “Barry Soetoro” was a part of it and witnessed by more than one person….and his “new” NASA $$$ concentration project is for Mars and landing on asteroids which was responded to by the traditional NASA group/space affiliates as utterly crazy!!….again, hmmmm.

    P.S. I found Rob’s youtube a bit interesting at around 1:10:00!!

  29. Dick Morris TV in the Morning!!! Obama Will Not Win!!!!

    * * * *

    The Left Controls Obama. Dick Morris TV: Lunch ALERT!

    “Mr. Morris contends that it will become INCREASINGLY OBVIOUS in the months ahead that the pResident is unfit to lead.”

    * * * *

    Obama at Fault for No Debt Deal. Dick Morris TV: Lunch ALERT

    “Uploaded by dickmorrisreports on Jul 27, 2011

    Dick Morris discusses Obama’s motives and why and how, “Obama blew up the debt deal to appease the left. Soros and Co. are pulling his strings.”

    * * * *

  30. SueQ | February 18, 2012 at 8:49 pm |
    Anyone remember Rob’s bogus story about Obama’s Truth Team Logo (broken swastika)? The real logo was bad enough, but he was appealing to the naive to get them off subject and make them look foolish.
    =====================
    You mean like this one?:

    A lot of blogs are referencing this image….don’t know though:

    Obama’s Truth Team gets a spiffy new logo – think nazi

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/obama-truth-team-unveils-spiffy-new.html

    http://digg.com/news/politics/obama_truth_team_unveils_spiffy_new_logo_1

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2847974/posts

  31. Off topic, completely.

    On Sunday, I am going down to the Boston Naval Shipyard (formerly the Charlestown Naval Shipyard) to visit America’s frigate, the U.S.S. Constitution.

    We here are fortunate that she’s docked just down the road a piece, and that I will be able to stand on her deck and say a prayer for America. I figure that since her namesake is being trampled on daily by these morons in D.C., perhaps a prayer on her deck will help. She fought for freedom then, and we’re fighting to maintain that freedom with everything we’ve got, now.

    The prayer will be from all of us.

  32. Interested Bystander

    Here’s the Sept 7, 2008 Meet the Press program:

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/meet-the-press-netcast/26591000#26591000

    Although I didn’t see all of it, it seems to be Biden and then Friedman, there is some tape of Obama shown about half way through.

    Not sure I believe that “email”.

  33. This might be of interest to some of you:

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  34. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I also researched the Haskell, article and I’m sad to report I did find the ABC article, which doesn’t really collaborate his story, it says the FBI is investigating reports of an Indian man in a tan suit, probably because Haskell reported it.

    I searched for the hearings referenced also, and couldn’t find any of the hearings, not commenting that they aren’t there, just that I couldn’t find them.

    But it seems to me that if someone has spent this much time in the court room, and is making the claims and then claiming they were either admitted too, or that the FBI was investigating something, the LEAST you could do is link the article or hearing to the story.

    It makes it more credible.

  35. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    And now the last couple days have been nothing more than why we need to go to war with Iran.

    Iran is the reason gas prices are going up

    Iran is capable of closing the Strait of Hormuz

    Iran installs the first rods in it’s nuclear reactor

    Iranian (or was it Iraqi, and then I heard he was from Morocco) trying to blow up the Capital Building.

    If I may expand on this just a bit, this man was supposedly under surveillance for a year, and the FBI or CIA supplied the “bomb”. This sounds like a complete set up to me, or maybe I’m “reading” too much in to the Haskell “story”)

    Need I go on?

    We need to put our full might in to ensuring the world is free from this tyrant.

    (sarcasm alert)

    My view is that this is a ploy, and WE are being diverted, and something big is about to go down.

    By the way, doesn’t Obamacare go before the Supreme Court in a month or so? Isn’t the ruling supposed to be in June?

    I’m just thinkin………………

  36. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    On the eligibility issue,

    Just a little common sense here:

    The man has stated his father wasn’t an American citizen.

    The Constitution states that ONLY a “natural born citizen” is eligible to be President.

    “Natural born citizen” as interpretted by our Founders meant born on US soil to parentS who are American citizens.

    Case closed.

    Is anyone MORE convinced our WHOLE Government (ALL three branches) are as corrupt as can be?

  37. Ron Paul has the biggest lead over BO in Iowa……

    Obama trails three of four Republican candidates in latest Iowa Poll
    7:00 PM, Feb. 18, 2012

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120218/NEWS09/120218015

  38. OT–(don’t know the source, but, interesting…)
    Who IS Bari M. Shabazz?
    snip-“Two astonishing pieces of evidence — both connected to someone using the identity of Bari Shabazz — the same last name as the one used by Malcolm X — have just emerged which may make sense of some of the unsolved mysteries surrounding the life and identity of the man who now goes by the name of Barack Hussein Obama II.

    http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/bari-m-shabazz-fugitive-from-hawaiian-justice-had-to-die-so-barac

  39. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Interested Bystander | February 19, 2012 at 12:04 am |
    Hey All

    Is anyone MORE convinced our WHOLE Government (ALL three branches) are as corrupt as can be?
    __________________________________________

    Bingo – Case closed

    ALSO

    “Hard Core Proof OBAMA Snorts Coke! (touching his nose to much)”

    Check out the other sidebar examples.

  40. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | February 19, 2012 at 7:28 am |
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

  41. Good Morning CW et. al.

  42. MissTickly has a new 8 part posting up – Answers.

    http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/answers/

  43. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I hope my post that is in moderation will eventually clear the thought police. It is quite provoking and only been seen by about 340 people worldwide. I’ll keep posting it till it is seen.

  44. Good morning Zach, et al.

  45. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I tried posting it a “USURPERVILLE” and AGAIN it was put in moderation.

    Try googling “Hard core proof Obama snorts coke”

  46. Philo-Publius | February 19, 2012 at 7:46 am |

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Great read Philo. I was already aware of much information, but she certainly brings to light many questions/investigative research I was not aware of, especially the Freepers, relatives, ect..

  47. CONFUSION is Obama’s friend.

  48. Philo-Publius@7:46

    Read it and my head is spinning. Who do you trust?

  49. Gordo,

    I think CONFUSION comments here from time to time.

  50. I should have said “Whom does one trust?”

  51. SueQ and others,
    Last evening I read hurriedly the eight parts of MissTickly’s essay, and sorry to say I do not give much credence to her “research” in many ways.
    A number of months ago I volunteered to help her re. a matter she was dealing with concerning WND – Joseph Farah in particular, so my comments are not prejudiced against the work she has done on the seals, etc.
    What is very troubling to me is how she has literally trashed many people involved in the patriot cause. Severe criticism as she has engaged in should be done carefully and respectfully. Those qualities are lacking, and she has not convinced me strongly enough to accept her viewpoint.

    Furthermore, she openly admits to being a very liberal person politically. She was a strong Clinton supporter until recently. To confess that is to her credit, but it also adds a certain dimension that makes me wary of the soundness of her analytical abilities, judgment, and conclusions.

    Just my opinion, which I know will fly in the face of many who think so highly of her.

  52. Thanks Cabby,
    I will take to heart what you said, as I have much more history with you than with Tickly. Your instincts are usually correct. Take care.

  53. Cabby,

    I and a couple of others have over the past – run-ins with MissTickly’s conclusions on many issues.

    In this last read (Although I have not verified – and won’t) I found her questions/family research pertaining to the Freepers interesting.

    But that is pretty much it.

  54. After reading the whole transcript at Obama’s Garden, about the only remark that I can come up with is……..does the words DER BILDERBIRG,have any relavence?

  55. Interested Bystander | February 18, 2012 at 11:36 pm |

    Here’s the Sept 7, 2008 Meet the Press program:

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/meet-the-press-netcast/26591000#26591000

    Although I didn’t see all of it, it seems to be Biden and then Friedman, there is some tape of Obama shown about half way through.

    Not sure I believe that “email”.
    **********************************************
    I don’t know if the “email” is real either, or have the obots succeeded in scrubbing the article from the internet, in an attempt to change history. With this regime, and an army of paid bloggers, we are dealing with an enemy, that has usurped the U.S. presidency.

  56. Just a thought… since we don’t have a REAL president, but a usurper, will our next President (assuming it is not BO) be THE 44th?

  57. SueQ, Cabby, William;

    Obviously MissTickly has never held a certified Hawaii COLB in her hand or she would easily see the errors of her speculations.

    Ron Polarik has physically seen certified COLBs. Miki Booth has. Danae has. And I have also.

    MT has based her allegations solely on internet photos. She makes issue of the terminology of embossment or debossment. What is verifiable is the actual physical examination of certified documents.

    When viewing my documents from the back, the seal imprint is indented .
    The factcheck image is also idented. It is difficult to read but the words STATE of HAWAII are at bottom of image.
    BACK

    When viewing my documents from the front, the seal imprint is raised.
    FRONT
    The factcheck image is also raised and the letters are backwards.

    Am I defending the Hawaii DOH or factcheck? Absolutly not! I agree with MT that the Obama COLB dated June 6, 2007 has serious authenticity problems. But embossment vs. debossment ain’t the problem.

    More later…………….

  58. Take it up with the HDOH, not me, Jonah. I asked them for the seal you say exists, they say they don’t have it.

    That is not my fault and I am not misinterpreting anything. I provided them the Factcheck.org photos. They reviewed them and say they don’t have that seal. Sorry. It’s nothing personal.

    They have two embossed seals…but they do not have the seal in the factcheck.org org photos. Again, take it up with them. That isn’t my fault. Are you suggesting they disclosed the seal and I have withheld it or something? Because that did not happen and I am withholding NOTHING.

    Ask for the debossed seal yourselves. Send the HDOH the factcheck.org photos and ask them yourselves.

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