Obama ballot challenges, Natural born citizen deficiency, Courts must decide, US Constitution rules, Supreme Court must provide ruling

Obama ballot challenges, Natural born citizen deficiency, Courts must decide, US Constitution rules, Supreme Court must provide ruling

“Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise
that it will last; but nothing in this world is certain but death and
taxes.”…Benjamin Franklin

“If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation, for through this in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”…George Washington

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln

Once again, as in 2008, we are confronted with the eligibility of Barack Obama for the presidency and to be on ballots nationwide. Once again, we have debate
among concerned citizens as well as legal scholars about the definition of natural born citizen, one of the requirements of the US Constitution. Once again
we have judges avoiding rulings, making excuses such as lack of standing and using inappropriate “precedents” for their decisions. Once again, as in 2008, we
have a Supreme Court that has not done their job, to clarify the law, the definition of natural born citizen.

Marbury v Madison is perhaps the most quoted US Judicial Opinion in US History. I have quoted it often myself. It is fitting and proper that I present it now.

“Chief Justice Marshall delivered the opinion of the court.

In the order in which the court has viewed this subject, the following questions have been considered and decided:
1st. Has the applicant a right to the commission he demands?
2dly. If he has a right, and that right has been violated, do the laws of his country afford him a remedy?
3dly. If they do afford him a remedy, is it a mandamus issuing from this court?

The first object of enquiry is: Has the applicant a right to the commission he demands?

His right originates in an act of congress passed in February, 1801, concerning the district of Columbia. This law enacts, “that there shall be appointed in
and for each of the said counties, such number of discreet persons to be justices of the peace as the president of the United States shall, from time to
time, think expedient, to continue in office for five years.”

It appears, from the affidavits, that in compliance with this law, a commission for William Marbury as a justice of peace for the county of Washington, was
signed by John Adams, then president of the United States; after which the seal of the United States was affixed to it; but the commission has never reached
the person for whom it was made out.

In order to determine whether he is entitled to this commission, it becomes necessary to enquire whether he has been appointed to the office. For if he has
been appointed, the law continues him in office for five years, and he is entitled to the possession of those evidences of office, which, being completed,
became his property.

The 2d section of the 2d article of the constitution, declares, that “the president shall nominate, and, by and with the advice and consent of the senate,
shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not otherwise provided
for.” The third section declares, that “he shall commission all the officers of the United States.” An act of congress directs the secretary of state to keep
the seal of the United States, “to make out and record, and affix the said seal to all civil commissions to officers of the United States, to be appointed by
the President, by and with the consent of the senate, or by the President alone; provided that the said seal shall not be affixed to any commission before
the same shall have been signed by the President of the United States.”

These are the clauses of the constitution and laws of the United States, which affect this part of the case. They seem to contemplate three distinct
operations:
1st, The nomination. This is the sole act of the President, and is completely voluntary.
2d. The appointment. This is also the act of the President, and is also a voluntary act, though it can only be performed by and with the advice and consent of the senate.
3d. The commission. To grant a commission to a person appointed, might perhaps be deemed a duty enjoined by the constitution. “He shall,” says that
instrument, “commission all the officers of the United States.”

This is an appointment by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the senate, and is evidenced by no act but the commission itself…. The last
act to be done by the President, is the signature of the commission. He has then acted on the advice and consent of the senate to his own nomination. The
time for deliberations has then passed. He has decided. His judgment, on the advice and consent of the senate concurring with his nomination, has been made, and the officer is appointed. This appointment is evidenced by an open, unequivocal act; and being the last act required from the person making it,
necessarily excludes the idea of its being, so far as respects the appointment, an inchoate and incomplete transaction.

The signature is a warrant for affixing the great seal to the commission; and the great seal is only to be affixed to an instrument which is complete. It
asserts, by an act supposed to be of public notoriety, the verity of the Presidential signature.

It is never to be affixed till the commission is signed, because the signature, which gives force and effect to the commission, is conclusive evidence that
the appointment is made.

The commission being signed, the subsequent duty of the secretary of state is prescribed by law, and not to be guided by the will of the President. He is to
affix the seal of the United States to the commission, and is to record it.

This is not a proceeding which may be varied, if the judgment of the executive shall suggest one more eligible; but is a precise course accurately marked out
by law, and is to be strictly pursued. It is the duty of the secretary of state to conform to the law, and in this he is an officer of the United States,
bound to obey the laws. He acts, in this regard, as has been very properly stated at the bar, under the authority of law, and not by the instructions of the
President. It is a ministerial act which the law enjoins on a particular officer for a particular purpose….

The discretion of the executive is to be exercised until the appointment has been made. But having once made the appointment, his power over the office is
terminated in all cases, where, by law, the officer is not removable by him. The right to the office is then in the person appointed, and he has the
absolute, unconditional, power of accepting or rejecting it.

Mr. Marbury, then, since his commission was signed by the President, and sealed by the secretary of state, was appointed; and as the law creating the office, gave the officer a right to hold for five years, independent of the executive, the appointment was not revocable; but vested in the officer legal rights, which are protected by the laws of his country.

To withhold his commission, therefore, is an act deemed by the court not warranted by law, but violative of a vested legal right.

This brings us to the second enquiry; which is, 2dly. If he has a right, and that right has been violated, do the laws of his country afford him a remedy?

The very essence of civil liberty certainly consists in the right of every individual to claim the protection of the laws, whenever he receives an injury.
One of the first duties of government is to afford that protection. The government of the United States has been emphatically termed a government of laws, and not of men. It will certainly cease to deserve this high appellation, if the laws furnish no remedy for the violation of a vested legal right.

By the constitution of the United States, the President is invested with certain important political powers, in the exercise of which he is to use his own
discretion, and is accountable only to his country in his political character, and to his own conscience. To aid him in the performance of these duties, he
is authorized to appoint certain officers, who act by his authority and in conformity with his orders.

In such cases, their acts are his acts; and whatever opinion may be entertained of the manner in which executive discretion may be used, still there exists,
and can exist, no power to control that discretion. The subjects are political. They respect the nation, not individual rights, and being entrusted to the
executive, the decision of the executive is conclusive. The application of this remark will be perceived by adverting to the act of congress for establishing
the department of foreign affairs. This office, as his duties were prescribed by that act, is to conform precisely to the will of the President. He is the
mere organ by whom that will is communicated. The acts of such an officer, as an officer, can never be examinable by the courts.

But when the legislature proceeds to impose on that officer other duties; when he is directed peremptorily to perform certain acts; when the rights of
individuals are dependent on the performance of those acts; he is so far the officer of the law; is amenable to the laws for his conduct; and cannot at his
discretion sport away the vested rights of others.

The conclusion from this reasoning is, that where the heads of departments are the political or confidential agents of the executive, merely to execute the
will of the President, or rather to act in cases in which the executive possesses a constitutional or legal discretion, nothing can be more perfectly clear
than that their acts are only politically examinable. But where a specific duty is assigned by law, and individual rights depend upon the performance of that
duty, it seems equally clear that the individual who considers himself injured, has a right to resort to the laws of his country for a remedy.

If this be the rule, let us enquire how it applies to the case under the consideration of the court.

The power of nominating to the senate, and the power of appointing the person nominated, are political powers, to be exercised by the President according to
his own discretion. When he has made an appointment, he has exercised his whole power, and his discretion has been completely applied to the case.

The question whether a right has vested or not, is, in its nature, judicial, and must be tried by the judicial authority. If, for example, Mr. Marbury had
taken the oaths of a magistrate, and proceeded to act as one; in consequence of which a suit had been instituted against him, in which his defence had
depended on his being a magistrate; the validity of his appointment must have been determined by judicial authority.

So, if he conceives that, by virtue of his appointment, he has a legal right, either to the commission which has been made out for him, or to a copy of that
commission, it is equally a question examinable in a court, and the decision of the court upon it must depend on the opinion entertained of his appointment.

That question has been discussed, and the opinion is, that the latest point of time which can be taken as that at which the appointment was complete, and
evidenced, was when, after the signature of the president, the seal of the United States was affixed to the commission.

It is then the opinion of the court: 1st. That by signing the commission of Mr. Marbury, the president of the United States appointed him a justice of
peace, for the county of Washington in the district of Columbia; and that the seal of the United States, affixed thereto by the secretary of state, is
conclusive testimony of the verity of the signature, and of the completion of the appointment; and that the appointment conferred on him a legal right to the
office for the space of five years. 2dly. That, having this legal title to the office, he has a consequent right to the commission; a refusal to deliver
which, is a plain violation of that right, for which the laws of his country afford him a remedy.

It remains to be enquired whether, 3dly. He is entitled to the remedy for which he applies. This depends on, 1st. The nature of the writ applied for, and,
2dly. The power of this court.

1st. The nature of the writ.

If one of the heads of departments commits any illegal act, under the color of his office, by which an individual sustains an injury, it cannot be pretended
that his office alone exempts him from being sued in the ordinary mode of proceeding, and being compelled to obey the judgment of the law. How then can his
office exempt him from this particular mode of deciding on the legality of his conduct, if the case be such a case as would, were any other individual the
party complained of, authorize the process?

It is not by the office of the person to whom the writ is directed, but the nature of the thing to be done that the propriety or impropriety of issuing a
mandamus, is to be determined. Where the head of a department acts in a case, in which executive discretion is to be exercised; in which he is the mere organ
of executive will; it is again repeated, that any application to a court to control, in any respect, his conduct, would be rejected without hesitation.

But where he is directed by law to do a certain act affecting the absolute rights of individuals, in the performance of which he is not placed under the
particular direction of the President, and the performance of which, the President cannot lawfully forbid, and therefore is never presumed to have forbidden; as for example, to record a commission which has received all the legal solemnities, it is not perceived on what ground the courts of the country are further excused from the duty of giving judgment, that right be done to an injured individual, than if the same services were to be performed by a person not the head of a department….

It was at first doubted whether the action of detinue was not a specified legal remedy for the commission which has been withheld from Mr. Marbury; in which case a mandamus would be improper. But this doubt has yielded to the consideration that the judgment in detinue is for the thing itself, or its value. The
value of a public office not to be sold, is incapable of being ascertained; and the applicant has a right to the office itself, or to nothing. He will obtain
the office by obtaining the commission, or a copy of it from the record.

This, then, is a plain case for a mandamus, either to deliver the commission, or a copy of it from the record; and it only remains to be enquired, Whether it
can issue from this court.

The act to establish the judicial courts of the United States authorizes the supreme court “to issue writs of mandamus, in cases warranted by the principles
and usages of law, to any courts appointed, or persons holding office, under the authority of the United States.”

The secretary of state, being a person holding an office under the authority of the United States, is precisely within the letter of the description; and if
this court is not authorized to issue a writ of mandamus to such an officer, it must be because the law is unconstitutional, and therefore absolutely
incapable of conferring the authority, and assigning the duties which its words purport to confer and assign.

The constitution vests the whole judicial power of the United States in one supreme court, and such inferior courts as congress shall, from time to time,
ordain and establish. This power is expressly extended to all cases arising under the laws of the United States; and consequently, in some form, may be
exercised over the present case; because the right claimed is given by a law of the United States.

In the distribution of this power it is declared that “the supreme court shall have original jurisdiction in all cases affecting ambassadors, other public
ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be a party. In all other cases, the supreme court shall have appellate jurisdiction.”

It has been insisted, at the bar, that as the original grant of jurisdiction, to the supreme and inferior courts, is general, and the clause, assigning
original jurisdiction to the supreme court, contains no negative or restrictive words; the power remains to the legislature, to assign original jurisdiction
to that court in other cases than those specified in the article which has been recited; provided those cases belong to the judicial power of the United
States.

If it had been intended to leave it to the discretion of the legislature to apportion the judicial power between the supreme and inferior courts according to
the will of that body, it would certainly have been useless to have proceeded further than to have defined the judicial powers, and the tribunals in which it
should be vested. The subsequent part of the section is mere surplusage, is entirely without meaning, if such is to be the construction. If congress remains
at liberty to give this court appellate jurisdiction, where the constitution has declared their jurisdiction shall be original; and original jurisdiction
where the constitution has declared it shall be appellate; the distribution of jurisdiction, made in the constitution, is form without substance.

Affirmative words are often, in their operation, negative of other objects than those affirmed; and in this case, a negative or exclusive sense must be given
to them or they have no operation at all.

It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such a construction is inadmissible, unless the
words require it.

When an instrument organizing fundamentally a judicial system, divides it into one supreme, and so many inferior courts as the legislature may ordain and
establish; then enumerates its powers, and proceeds so far to distribute them, as to define the jurisdiction of the supreme court by declaring the cases in
which it shall take original jurisdiction, and that in others it shall take appellate jurisdiction; the plain import of the words seems to be, that in one
class of cases its jurisdiction is original, and not appellate; in the other it is appellate, and not original. If any other construction would render the
clause inoperative, that is an additional reason for rejecting such other construction, and for adhering to their obvious meaning.

To enable this court then to issue a mandamus, it must be shown to be an exercise of appellate jurisdiction, or to be necessary to enable them to exercise
appellate jurisdiction.

It has been stated at the bar that the appellate jurisdiction may be exercised in a variety of forms, and that if it be the will of the legislature that a
mandamus should be used for that purpose, that will must be obeyed. This is true, yet the jurisdiction must be appellate, not original.

It is the essential criterion of appellate jurisdiction, that it revises and corrects the proceedings in a cause already instituted, and does not create that
cause. Although, therefore, a mandamus may be directed to courts, yet to issue such a writ to an officer for the delivery of a paper, is in effect the same
as to sustain an original action for that paper, and therefore seems not to belong to appellate, but to original jurisdiction. Neither is it necessary in
such a case as this, to enable the court to exercise its appellate jurisdiction.

The authority, therefore, given to the supreme court, by the act establishing the judicial courts of the United States, to issue writs of mandamus to public
officers, appears not to be warranted by the constitution; and it becomes necessary to enquire whether a jurisdiction, so conferred, can be exercised.

The question, whether an act, repugnant to the constitution, can become the law of the land, is a question deeply interesting to the United States; but,
happily, not of an intricacy proportioned to its interest. It seems only necessary to recognize certain principles, supposed to have been long and well
established, to decide it.

That the people have an original right to establish, for their future government, such principles as, in their opinion, shall most conduce to their own
happiness, is the basis, on which the whole American fabric has been erected. The exercise of this original right is a very great exertion; nor can it, nor
ought it to be frequently repeated. The principles, therefore, so established, are deemed fundamental. And as the authority, from which they proceed, is
supreme, and can seldom act, they are designed to be permanent.

This original and supreme will organizes the government, and assigns, to different departments, their respective powers. It may either stop here; or
establish certain limits not to be transcended by those departments.

The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined, and limited; and that those limits may not be
mistaken, or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if
these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction, between a government with limited and unlimited powers, is
abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed, are of equal obligation. It is a
proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the
constitution by an ordinary act.

Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a
level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.

If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written
constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power, in its own nature illimitable.

Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the
theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void.

If an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void, does it, notwithstanding its invalidity, bind the courts, and oblige them to give it
effect? Or, in other words, though it be not law, does it constitute a rule as operative as if it was a law? This would be to overthrow in fact what was
established in theory; and would seem, at first view, an absurdity too gross to be insisted on. It shall, however, receive a more attentive consideration.

It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity
expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each.

So if a law be in opposition to the constitution; if both the law and the constitution apply to a particular case, so that the court must either decide that
case conformably to the law, disregarding the constitution; or conformably to the constitution, disregarding the law; the court must determine which of
these conflicting rules governs the case. This is of the very essence of judicial duty.

If then the courts are to regard the constitution; and the constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature; the constitution, and not such
ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply.

Those then who controvert the principle that the constitution is to be considered, in court, as a paramount law, are reduced to the necessity of maintaining
that courts must close their eyes on the constitution, and see only the law.

This doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written constitutions. It would declare that an act, which, according to the principles and theory of
our government, is entirely void; is yet, in practice, completely obligatory. It would declare, that if the legislature shall do what is expressly forbidden,
such act, notwithstanding the express prohibition, is in reality effectual. It would be giving to the legislature a practical and real omnipotence, with the
same breath which professes to restrict their powers within narrow limits. It is prescribing limits, and declaring that those limits may be passed at
pleasure.

That it thus reduces to nothing what we have deemed the greatest improvement on political institutions — a written constitution — would of itself be
sufficient, in America, where written constitutions have been viewed with so much reverence, for rejecting the construction. But the peculiar expressions of
the constitution of the United States furnish additional arguments in favor of its rejection.

The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to
say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the
instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.

In some cases then, the constitution must be looked into by the judges. And if they can open it at all, what part of it are they forbidden to read, or to
obey? There are many other parts of the constitution which serve to illustrate this subject. It is declared that “no tax or duty shall be laid on articles
exported from any state.” Suppose a duty on the export of cotton, of tobacco, or of flour; and a suit instituted to recover it. Ought judgment to be rendered
in such a case? ought the judges to close their eyes on the constitution, and only see the law. The constitution declares that “no bill of attainder or ex
post facto law shall be passed.”
If, however, such a bill should be passed and a person should be prosecuted under it; must the court condemn to death those victims whom the constitution
endeavors to preserve?

Why otherwise does it direct the judges to take an oath to support it? This oath certainly applies, in an especial manner, to their conduct in their official
character. How immoral to impose it on them, if they were to be used as the instruments, and the knowing instruments, for violating what they swear to
support!

The oath of office, too, imposed by the legislature, is completely demonstrative of the legislative opinion on the subject. It is in these words, “I do
solemnly swear that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich; and that I will faithfully and
impartially discharge all the duties incumbent on me as according to the best of my abilities and understanding, agreeably to the constitution, and laws of
the United States.”

Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if
it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?

If such be the real state of things, this is worse than solemn mockery. To prescribe, or to take this oath, becomes equally a crime.

Thus, the particular phraseology of the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written
constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/marbury.HTML

I find the following statements to be particularly relevant today and to posterity.

“It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect;”

“Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a
level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.

If the former part of the alternative be true, then a legislative act contrary to the constitution is not law: if the latter part be true, then written
constitutions are absurd attempts, on the part of the people, to limit a power, in its own nature illimitable.

Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the
theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void.”

“It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity
expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each.”

“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if
it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?

If such be the real state of things, this is worse than solemn mockery. To prescribe, or to take this oath, becomes equally a crime.

Thus, the particular phraseology of the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written
constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”

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    Obama Ballot Challenge Filed in PA – A Nomination Petition Objection Was Filed in Commonwealth Court of PA Against Obama at 10:24 AM 17 Feb 2012
    It was a long and busy, but very productive day. I just returned from Harrisburg PA, our state capital, where today we filed in the Commonwealth Court of PA and with the Secretary of State office the ballot access challenge/objection to Obama being on the ballot in PA since Obama is NOT a “natural born Citizen of the United States” and is thus constitutionally not eligible for the office he seeks. Below is a very brief initial report of what transpired today with a couple pictures. Full video was recorded at the news conference and will be posted as soon as it is available.
    UPDATE 18 Feb 2012: A copy of the ballot challenge objection against Obama filed on Friday, 17 Feb 2012, in the Commonwealth Court of PA in Harrisburg PA can be downloaded at this link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/82058113/Kerchner-Laudenslager-v-Obama-Nomination-Petition-Objection-Filed-in-PA-Court-17Feb2012
    WE NEED YOUR HELP: If you can, please help this legal action to expose the usurper resident in our Oval Office. Support the PA Ballot Challenge/Objection against Obama filed in PA. Please donate:
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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Contact: CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret.), http://www.kerchner.com/contact.htm, cdrkerchner.wordpress.com

    PA ATTORNEY KAREN L. KIEFER TODAY FILED A ‘NOMINATION PETITION OBJECTION’ IN THE COMMONWEALTH COURT OF PA IN HARRISBURG PA ON BEHALF OF ‘OBJECTORS’ CHARLES KERCHNER AND DALE LAUDENSLAGER CHALLENGING THE BALLOT ACCESS PETITION FOR CANDIDATE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

    The Objectors and Atty Kiefer and supporters/volunteers at the Capitol building in Harrisburg PAOBJECTORS CHARLES KERCHNER AND DALE LAUDENSLAGER, CONCERNED CITIZENS OF PA, RESIDENTS OF AND DULY REGISTERED MEMBERS OF THE ELECTORATE, ALONG WITH THEIR ATTORNEY KAREN L. KIEFER, ACCOMPANIED BY A GROUP OF SUPPORTERS AND VOLUNTEERS, HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE AT 3:00PM TODAY, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH, AT THE CAPITOL ROTUNDA IN HARRISBURG, PA, ANNOUNCING THAT A STATE LAWSUIT, IN COMMONWEALTH COURT, WAS FILED AT 10:24 AM THAT DAY, SEEKING A JUDGEMENT TO HAVE CANDIDATE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S NOMINATION PETITION OR PAPERS SET ASIDE DUE TO HIS FAILURE TO MEET THE ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’ CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE OFFICE HE SEEKS.
    CHARLES KERCHNER, THE LEAD PLAINTIFF/OBJECTOR AND A RETIRED NAVY COMMANDER, EXPLAINED AT THE NEWS CONFERENCE THAT AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF RESEARCH, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT CANDIDATE OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT BECAUSE “HE IS NOT A NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN ACCORDING TO THE US CONSTITUTION.” “WE ARE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS BUT CANDIDATE OBAMA’S FATHER WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.” HE SAID. “UNTIL CANDIDATE OBAMA CAME ALONG, NO PRESIDENT SINCE THE FOUNDING GENERATION HAS HAD A FOREIGN-BORN FATHER WHO NEVER IMMIGRATED TO THE USA.” OBAMA’S FATHER WAS NEVER A U.S. CITIZEN NOR EVEN WANTED TO BE ONE AND RETURNED TO HIS NATIVE COUNTRY OF KENYA AFTER A FEW YEARS SOJOURNING IN THE USA ON A STUDENT VISA WHILE ATTENDING COLLEGE. CANDIDATE OBAMA WAS BORN A BRITISH SUBJECT/CITIZEN VIA HIS FOREIGN-NATIONAL, NON-U.S. CITIZEN FATHER AND A BASIC U.S. CITIZEN VIA HIS MOTHER AND THUS WAS BORN WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP AND NOT SOLE ALLEGIANCE AT BIRTH TO THE USA. A DUAL CITIZEN AT BIRTH IS NOT A ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES’ TO CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARDS.

    A ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’ IS SOMEONE BORN IN THE COUNTRY FROM PARENTS THAT ARE BOTH U.S. CITIZENS (BORN OR NATURALIZED). THE FOUNDERS REASONED THAT UNITY OF CITIZENSHIP AND SOLE ALLEGIANCE AT BIRTH TO ONE NATION AND ONLY ONE NATION WAS A PREREQUISITE TO THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. THIS REQUIREMENT WAS ENTERED INTO THE US CONSTITUTION FOR NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS AS A “STRONG CHECK AGAINST FOREIGN INFLUENCE” AND ALLEGIANCE CLAIMS VIA BIRTH STATUS ON THE PERSON WHO WOULD BE THE COMMANDER OF OUR ARMIES AND THE PRESIDENT, ACCORDING TO JOHN JAY’S LETTER TO GEORGE WASHINGTON. JOHN JAY BECAME THE FIRST CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE US SUPREME COURT UNDER THE NEW CONSTITUTION.
    A ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’ IS A 2ND GENERATION AMERICAN VIA BOTH PARENTS, I.E., BOTH PARENTS MUST BE U.S. CITIZENS (BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE PARENTS’ CASE) WHEN THEIR CHILD IS BORN IN THE USA. THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT ARE THE ONLY ELECTED OFFICES IN THE USA WHICH REQUIRE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION THAT THE PERSON MUST BE A ‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’ TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE OFFICES. A FIRST GENERATION U.S. CITIZEN CAN HOLD ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICE. BUT THE PERSON WHO WOULD BE PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER OF OUR ARMIES, PER THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, MUST BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, I.E., A 2ND GENERATION U.S. CITIZEN VIA BOTH PARENTS WHEN BORN IN THE USA.

    OBAMA SLIPPED THROUGH THE VETTING SYSTEM CRACKS AS TO HIS CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY IN THE 2008 PRIMARIES. BUT HE WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO DO SO IN THE 2012 PRIMARIES.

  2. http://spiritdaily.com/Asantoroumsatan.htm

    From blogs:

    Santorum: Satan Destroying U.S.

    In a powerful, surprising 2008 speech at Ave Maria University in southern Florida, the new Catholic institution not far from the alligators in the Everglades, Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, who has miraculously surged in recent polls, and now faces a critical run of GOP primaries, told students all the major institutions in society were under attack and were being influenced by Satan — including academia, the culture, the Church (except for Catholics) and the government. “We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it,” Santorum said on August 29 of that year. “After that, you start destroying the Church and you start destroying academia; the culture is where their next success was and I need not even go into the state of the popular culture today.”

    Said Santorum:” This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country – the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age. There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers.

    “He didn’t have much success in the early days. Our foundation was very strong, in fact, is very strong. But over time, that great, acidic quality of time corrodes even the strongest foundations. And Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition.

    “He was successful. He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were, in fact, smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia, a long time ago, fell.”

    [For audio… linked stories may go to secular sites out of our control

  3. Thanks, Observer.
    Here’s a link to a youtube video……..

    Santorum: Satan is Systematically Destroying America

  4. 21 Videos: Sheriff Mack & Stewart Rhodes host Tom Woods, Larry Pratt, M. Badnarik +100 Const. Sheriffs! | Ron Paul 2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty

    http://www.dailypaul.com/215062/21-videos-sheriff-mackstewart-rhodes-host-tom-woods-larry-pratt-m-badnarik-100-const-sheriffs

  5. I just wanted to say keep up the good work you’re doing here Citizen Wells. I clicked on a link over at my good friend Christine’s blog Talk Wisdom to get here. Thank you for what you’re doing here. I’ll be visiting from time to time and will include you on my blog roll.
    Steve

  6. Jonah | February 19, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    In moderation…….

  7. This is good and I’m not even into rap……

    Ron Paul 2012

  8. I wonder how long it will take JBJD to post a scathing ridicule against Commander Kerschner, and RECITE PENNSYLVANIA LAW TO US WORD FOR WORD.

  9. My guess is that the objection will be dismissed, and Pennsylvania like three other states so far will PUBLICALLY VIOLATE their own PREREQUISITES,and SUPPORT Soetoro being on their ballot, even though he is NOT EVEN who he says he is. Name never legally re instated via Superior Court Petition for Name change. All public records of all states was thoroughly searched. No Petition was ever filed by Soetoro in ANY state, or Superior Court in the US to legally re instate his ALLEGED birthname.

  10. “PAUL SAY U.S. `SLIPPING INTO A FASCIST SYSTEM’”

    [FASCIST TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP!!]

    February 18, 2012

    Excerpt:

    “Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul warned the U.S. is “slipping into a fascist system” dominated by government and businesses as he held a fiery rally Saturday night upstaging established Republican Party banquets a short distance away.

    [...]

    Paul staged his rally near the nation’s World War I museum, asserting that the U.S. got off track about 100 years ago during the era of President Woodrow Wilson, who led the nation through World War I and unsuccessfully advocated for the nation’s involvement in a forerunner of the United Nations.

    “We’ve slipped away from a true Republic,” Paul said. “Now we’re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government and big business and authoritarian rule and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”

    See The Entire Article Here: http://townhall.com/news/politicselections/2012/02/18/paul_says_us_slipping_into_a_fascist_system

  11. ………..our so almighty,all good and wonderful CRIMINAL DICTATOR, has sucessfully BROWBEATEN all of those in our government who were SWORN to uphold our Constitution. In so doing they are now COMPLICIT in TREASON. Further it is entirely possible that ANYONE (EVEN A VOTER) could be held criminally liable by voting for Soetoro AKA Barack H. Obama in the 2012 election. Similarly electors could share that charge.

  12. oldsalt79 | February 19, 2012 at 11:12 am |

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I completely agree with you.

    I believe these so called elected Reps. would jump out of a bar room window to avoid a fight. They are cowards.

  13. Starla…………….
    Anyone old enough to remember the so called “IL DEUCE” who imposed a fascist regime upon Italy will also remember what subsequently happened to him………he was REMOVED BY ITALIANS, STRUNG UP, and left hanging,dead,and upside down from a filling station entrance sign.

  14. ………return with me now to the so wonderful days of yester year………you know …..the year that Obama offerred the public HOPEY CHANGEY. At nearly every stop on the campaign trail the media saw to it that they captured a LARD ASSED DARK COMPLECTED FEMALE with her arms outstretched towards the heavans,and tears running down her cheeks chanting “THE MESSIAH HAS ARRIVED,THE MESSIAH HAS ARRIVED.” Fortunately JOE THE PLUMBER put a pretty good dent in Soetoro’s BULLSHI# chute. He saw through the (alleged) MESSIAH almopst instantly after Soetoro told him that he was going to impose additional taxes upon him so that he (Soetoro) could give it to the SCUM BASTARDS,in our communities. That is those who refuse to work for a living,those who rape,rob ,and murder are GOING TO BE GIVEN MONEY THAT WE worked our behinds off to earn. Well folks you have one shot at changing the alleged HOPEY CHANGEY into reality……..in November 2012

  15. ………..November of 2012 will be everyone’s last chance to point the US back to a Constitutional form of government SUPPORTED BY a REAL CONGRESS,a REAL LEGISLATURE, and a REAL JUDICIAL……..BTW also a REAL PRESIDENT as well,as a REAL US SUPREME COURT. At present all we have are PHONEYS,COWARDS, AND CHICAGO TYPE SLIME holding US government offices.

  16. Bye Bye, Time to go outside for a while.

  17. oldsalt79 | February 19, 2012 at 11:02 am |

    I wonder how long it will take JBJD to post a scathing ridicule against Commander Kerschner, and RECITE PENNSYLVANIA LAW TO US WORD FOR WORD.

    ~ me too.

    and it just came to mind that 79 will soon be 80. best wishes for good health, a happy day and a terrific new year. 80 more!! Salt, sir. USA!

  18. where is Terry Lakin these days?

  19. Papoose and Old Salt,
    Ditto regarding JBJD. Maybe we just want to shoot the messenger, but why are so many other attorneys coming up with different interpretations. She (JBJD) hasn’t been wrong yet, but I would like for it to be time.

  20. “WHITNEY HOUSTON WAS CORRECT: CRACK WAS WACK”

    Doug Giles
    February 19, 2012

    Excerpt:

    “Look, I’m neither a fan nor a foe of the deceased Houston. What I am a fan of is our kids not following her self-destructive path. Instead of Christie flying flags at half-staff he ought to come out and use his bully pulpit to drive home these seven lessons from a woman who had it all and crashed and burned.

    1. Talent and mega money equals squat and can be your undoing if you do not have godly character undergirding your natural gifts. Just because you have talent, little children, doesn’t mean you’re bulletproof. Matter of fact, insane talent opens one up to insane temptations. Be afraid.

    2. You’re responsible for your actions. All the talking heads on various talk shows are yapping about how Whitney had a “disease.” A disease, my backside. If her lifestyle was the result of a disease, well, that’s a disease I’d like to have because I could do something about it—unlike cancer. I had this drug-abusing “disease” from the ages of 13 through 21, and I got cured; I smoked weed every day, snorted tons of coke and dropped a lot of acid … and my disease went away. You know how I did it? I repented of my sins, begged God to change my life and put myself under accountability … and boom! … I was cured of my “disease.”

    3. Don’t hang out with, nor marry, a moron. Get around people who’ll rebuke you when you are acting like a tool. Yes, hang out with friends who’ll hit you with a tranquilizing dart or whisk you off to an exorcist when they see you torching a rock.

    4. If you find out your friend or spouse is a death-dealing dbag, run in the opposite direction of said enabler. Like, right now. And if you get lonely and want a friend then get a dog. I recommend a pit-bull. They’re loving pets and will scare the crap out of any Bobby Brown trying to weasel his way back into your life.

    5. If you’re a 48-year-old parent that means you cannot act like an 18-year-old freshman during pledge week.

    6. Also note that when you toy with the demonic that the powers of darkness play for keeps.

    7. And lastly, I don’t care who you are or if you can sing like a canary: When you die—and you will—you will have to give an account of your life before God, and you cannot sing your way out of that tête-à-tête.”

    See The Entire Article Here: http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2012/02/19/whitney_houston_was_correct_crack_was_wack/page/full/

  21. the only thing I can say about my fellow American Whitney with the beautiful voice is that we share the same God. a soulful, understanding, warm and welcoming Creator. An Almighty with Love for People.

    other than that, i can’t relate. and i, too, was raised in a ghetto.

  22. Papoose | February 19, 2012 at 1:11 pm |

    the only thing I can say about my fellow American Whitney with the beautiful voice is that we share the same God. a soulful, understanding, warm and welcoming Creator. An Almighty with Love for People.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    So simply and beautifully said.

  23. Has anyone read this piece of news today? Headline:

    “Arizona sheriff quits Romney campaign amid accusations”

    Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu

    ..”PHOENIX (Reuters) – A local sheriff resigned as a co-chair of Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney’s campaign in Arizona on Saturday after he was accused of threatening a former male lover with deportation to Mexico if he talked about their relationship.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-sheriff-quits-romney-campaign-amid-accusations-021441912.html

    This idiot should not be in politics knowing his history and current issues. They are harmful and at some point will be discovered and used as leverage.

  24. William,
    All of this pales in comparison to Obama’s Larry Sinclair, Donald Young incidents. But, oh yeah, we don’t get to “go there”. I just Hope Brietbart’s pending video release is very powerful.

  25. Thanks Steve.

  26. http://www.breitbart.tv/ryan-obama-has-a-paternalistic-arrogant-attitude/

    Ryan: Obama Has A ‘Paternalistic, Arrogant’ Attitude
    February 19, 2012 at 11:05 am – NBC
    Dateline: America
    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on “Meet the Press”: “What we’re getting from the White House on this conscience issue, it’s not an issue about contraception, it’s an issue that reveals a political philosophy the President is showing that basically treats our constitutional rights as if they were revocable privileges from our government, not inalienable rights from our creator.”

  27. Well, then there’s this:

    Dems Embrace ‘Urban Unity’ As 2012 Convention PosterFebruary 19, 2012 at 9:08 am – DNC
    Dateline: North Carolina
    The Obama Campaign and the Democratic National Committee have a new slogan for the 2012 election. A design called “Urban Unity” will be the official poster for the DNC convention in Charlotte, N.C.

    It’s a curious choice for a man who claims to want to unite the entire country.

    From WSOC: The winner of the Democratic National Convention poster contest was announced Saturday. Charlotte resident, Steve Ward took the top spot with his ‘Urban Unity’ design. Ward is a design teacher at York Technical College

    And from “urban unity” we’ll probably get more urban “flash mobs” against those living outside of urban neighborhoods. Remember, in zero’s world “unity” has always meant “divide”!!

  28. Why have The Judge and Eric Bolling been dropped from Fox Business??? They are without question the most conservative.

  29. Ron Paul is proving to be a force to reckon with….another outstanding showing over the weekend in both KC and Boise…..way to go LIBERTY LOVERS….the REVOLUTION OF FREEDOM IS ALIVE and well…..DIE GOP…..DIE…….NO ONE BUT RON PAUL IN 2012!!!

    Paul supporters pack Union Station for Republican hopeful

    Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/political/paul-supporters-pack-union-station-for-republican-hopeful#ixzz1mrFAiQMP

    Just got back from the Ron Paul rally in Boise
    The arena holds 6000. The had the podium at half court. This is a hockey/basketball arena. More than half of the arena filled up. There were definitely over 3,000 people there.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/214972/just-got-back-from-the-ron-paul-rally-in-boise

  30. For anybody who is concerned …………
    Type in to your search engine the words Wikipedia>DER BILDERBERG. When you arrive at Wikipedia scroll down until you observe a section map. This is a sort of a BLOCK DIAGRAM of the NEW WORLD ORDER, and HOW IT IS MADE UP,and who along with the US is ONE of the THREE MAIN PARTS. Food for thought!

  31. After Ron Paul’s huge margin of victory in Washington county, local Ron Paul supporter, Bryan Daughtery, noted with suspicion the reasons why this particular county was delayed and excluded from the “final” vote tally.

    The final votes for Washington county came to: 163 for Ron Paul, 80 for Mitt Romney, 57 for Santorum and 4 for Gingrich.

    Efforts are underway to remove Charlie Webster from his position as the State GOP chair for his suspicious activity surrounding the caucuses. Ron Paul supporters should take note; final numbers have not been released by the State GOP, two districts in Hancock County were held on Saturday as well which Ron Paul won. With your help, RevPAC will continue to keep the pressure on the Maine State GOP to ensure that they include all of the delayed caucus votes.

    Please share this article and stay tuned for more updates on this issue.

    Aaron R. Jones
    Director of Grassroots Video

    Submitted Documentation:
    Maine Irregularities Summary
    http://www.wiziq.com/tutorial/203799-Maine-Irregularities-Summary

    Maine GOP Results Spreadsheet
    http://www.wiziq.com/tutorial/203785-Maine-GOP-Results-Spreadsheet

    http://www.revolutionpac.com/2012/02/exclusive-report-ron-paul-flushes-romney-in-washington-county/

  32. William………………….
    The OBOTS are hard at work trying to take down the Arizona law enforcement. Babeau is only a test, the real target is Arpiao.

  33. oops…Here’s my whole post……

    Check this out you all……IMO the Doc won Maine too…..this is only the tip of the iceberg….

    Exclusive: Ron Paul FLUSHES ROMNEY IN WASHINGTON COUNTY MAINE..

    On Saturday, 2/18/12, the delayed Washington County caucus was finally held in East Machias, Maine. As many of you know, there has been tremendous controversy surrounding the behavior of the establishment GOP in Maine.

    After Ron Paul’s huge margin of victory in Washington county, local Ron Paul supporter, Bryan Daughtery, noted with suspicion the reasons why this particular county was delayed and excluded from the “final” vote tally.

    The final votes for Washington county came to: 163 for Ron Paul, 80 for Mitt Romney, 57 for Santorum and 4 for Gingrich.

    Efforts are underway to remove Charlie Webster from his position as the State GOP chair for his suspicious activity surrounding the caucuses. Ron Paul supporters should take note; final numbers have not been released by the State GOP, two districts in Hancock County were held on Saturday as well which Ron Paul won. With your help, RevPAC will continue to keep the pressure on the Maine State GOP to ensure that they include all of the delayed caucus votes.

    Please share this article and stay tuned for more updates on this issue.

    Aaron R. Jones
    Director of Grassroots Video

    Submitted Documentation:
    Maine Irregularities Summary
    http://www.wiziq.com/tutorial/203799-Maine-Irregularities-Summary

    Maine GOP Results Spreadsheet
    http://www.wiziq.com/tutorial/203785-Maine-GOP-Results-Spreadsheet

    http://www.revolutionpac.com/2012/02/exclusive-report-ron-paul-flushes-romney-in-washington-county/s….DI

  34. William…………….
    The OBOTS are experimenting with strategies. If they are successful in destroying Babeau then you can be sure that Arpiao is NEXT.

  35. Katie,

    I’m not sure which is worse (personally speaking). Living a lie or supporting one? Certainly this Sheriff was/is a Huge Proponent of deporting Illegal Immigrants, Stood behind Arizona tough immigration laws. Although I haven’t researched his background, I would reasonably assume he was also against gay unions/marriage bills.

    Now he was forced to publicly admit he is gay and has been harboring an illegal immigrant as his lover. Whilst arresting and deporting illegal immigrants, he chose to break the same law for his personal boy toy.

    These people are not only morally corrupt, they are hypocrites and I am personally ashamed of them.

  36. William……………
    At this moment I stand with Arpiao. I firmly believe that instead of allowing the Ckicago SLIME to destroy him he will use their bullshi# and turn it around 180 degrees and before he is finished have the SCUM IN JAIL, wearing nice little LACY PINK WOMENS PANTIES and they will be put with the general population.

  37. Ron Paul Leaks His Choice for Vice President!!!

    It doesn’t get any better than this! Thanks to all of those who ardently support Ron Paul and his quest to restore the Constitution and our Republic! Please share this video with everyone you know….

  38. Papoose | February 19, 2012 at 12:14 pm |

    where is Terry Lakin these days?
    ***************************************************
    Why isn’t Lakin suing to get back, what he lost, plus damages, as a result of his last trial. It looks like he would have a good case against the usurper, the so called CIC.

  39. oldsalt79 | February 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm |

    William……………
    At this moment I stand with Arpiao. I firmly believe that instead of allowing the Ckicago SLIME to destroy him he will use their bullshi# and turn it around 180 degrees and before he is finished have the SCUM IN JAIL, wearing nice little LACY PINK WOMENS PANTIES and they will be put with the general population.
    ****************************************
    At least he will be with his constituents.

  40. Just asking again… Why were The Judge and Eric Bolling dropped from Fox Business? Being two of the most conservative on that network, and considering that Fox is being both attacked by the Left (Media Matters/WH) and blackmailed by a certain Saudi (see Diana West’s latest column), just wondering whose toes they stepped on. And who is replacing them?

  41. SueQ | February 19, 2012 at 3:11 pm |

    Just asking again… Why were The Judge and Eric Bolling dropped from Fox Business? Being two of the most conservative on that network, and considering that Fox is being both attacked by the Left (Media Matters/WH) and blackmailed by a certain Saudi (see Diana West’s latest column), just wondering whose toes they stepped on. And who is replacing them?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I posted this here before about the JUDGE but I’ll post it again for you Sue….some are speculating that it was because he is supporting Dr. Paul and speaking out about the FALSE FLAG operations our government has been doing time and time again….I will see if I can find that one too…..as far as BOLLING…..can’t stand him….wish they would fire him…..he’s NO conservative IMO……he supports a NEW GOP hack everyday!

    “Judge Napolitano’s Final Word on the Last Episode of Freedom Watch. FOX news did not “fire” the Judge… they just cancelled his show. According to Fox News press release, the Judge will be appearing again on Fox but Freedom Watch is done for.rather ironic a show about freedom got shut down. Although its sad to watch this end, one had to wonder how long it was going to last or how it even got on Fox News in the first place. Liberals have CurrenTV, perhaps its time to consider a new alternative…”
    - Gerald Celente -

    Judge Napolitano: Final Word on the Last Episode of Freedom Watch

  42. oldsalt79 | February 19, 2012 at 11:02 am |

    I wonder how long it will take JBJD to post a scathing ridicule against Commander Kerschner, and RECITE PENNSYLVANIA LAW TO US WORD FOR WORD.
    ********************************************
    I would like to hear what jbjd thinks about the chances of success, for Kerchner. I might not like what I hear, but I am willing to listen.

  43. OldSalt,

    I entirely support Sheriff Joe. I also agree that the media and leftist socialist organization are out in full force to destroy him. The good news, they have no dirt on him nor hidden skeletons in his closet.

  44. William | February 19, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    Has anyone read this piece of news today? Headline:

    “Arizona sheriff quits Romney campaign amid accusations”

    Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu
    **********************************
    William, when I read this last evening it just made me SICK! I had thought he was a true-blue law enforcement officer that we were proud of here in AZ.
    To find that he is a first-class hypocrite, among other things, is just so disappointing. The lusts of the flesh overcame his good sense about the risk of compromising everything he is supposed to stand for – against illegal immigration. Furthermore, he is running as a Republican for a U.S. congressional seat. We need more of that kind of duplicity and unreliability like a hole in the head. Sad. Very sad……and extremely disgusting.

  45. Get this out to everyone you know……unedited version….

    Ron Paul leaks his choice for VP 2012 (unedited original footage)

  46. jacqlynsmith | February 19, 2012 at 3:26 pm |

    I posted this here before about the JUDGE but I’ll post it again for you Sue….some are speculating that it was because he is supporting Dr. Paul

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jacqlynsmith,

    I have never heard/read/listened too any show by Judge Napolitano declaring he supports Ron Paul for President.

    Perhaps I’ve missed it.

    Could you please post the links from his shows whereby the Judge stated this?

    Thanks,

  47. oldsalt79 | February 19, 2012 at 2:44 pm |

    William………………….
    The OBOTS are hard at work trying to take down the Arizona law enforcement. Babeau is only a test, the real target is Arpiao.
    ************************************************
    This is going to be educational watching the usurper, of the office of President of the USA, go toe to toe with the Sheriffs of Arizona. We have a front row seat to watch the usurper, with a phony SSN and forged birth certificates, questioning the authority of Babeau and Arpaio and the State of Arizona.

    I hope the criminals don’t win this one.

  48. Old Salt, I agree entirely with you about Sheriff Joe. We love the guy and are backing him to the hilt. Don’t worry, his enemies are trying to find something on him. Right now the DOJ is harassing him over alleged misconduct handling illegals, etc., but he is certainly aware of all of it; however, we really need to pray for strength and wisdom for him. We can count on the battle being fierce.

  49. Colonel’s Wife Spills the beans on active military embedded in the courtroom..

    Kay Griggs speaks freely about the unimagined corruption and extent of the oppressive systems of deception within the leadership nexus of military intelligence with secret society internationalism:

  50. I must have used to many derogetory adjectives to describe the pResident in my last comment. It’s in moderation, and I thought I was being truthful.

  51. William,
    Though you may be right that Judge Napolitano has never endorsed Ron Paul, he is clearly Libertarian in his views. When I have watched him, I come away with the feeling that he does. Maybe I read too much into what he says.

  52. Cabby,

    I agree with you. Unfortunately, I believe this is only the beginning of something that is about to get very ugly in politics for Arizona.

    Many different political scenarios for strategy are rampantly running through my head. It’s unfathomable and confusing simultaneously. Nevertheless, it’s not going to be good and will be used by the left as leverage. The question(s) now are – how and when…..

    This isn’t simply going to go away.

  53. William says:

    Jacqlynsmith,

    I have never heard/read/listened too any show by Judge Napolitano declaring he supports Ron Paul for President.

    Perhaps I’ve missed it.

    Could you please post the links from his shows whereby the Judge stated this?

    Thanks,
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    YW…here’s the ONE that most screams his support of the DOC…..You evidently haven’t been following the JUDGE closely……there are many shows where the Judge has in a round about way endorsed the DOC…..

    Judge Napolitano Endorses Ron Paul

    Judge Napolitano Endorses Ron Paul; Slaughters Romney and Santorum – Fox Business

  54. Politics Ron Paul: U.S. ‘Slipping Into a Fascist System’
    Posted on February 19, 2012

    GOP presidential contender Ron Paul warned Saturday the U.S. is “slipping into a fascist system” dominated by government and big business, the Associated Press reported.

    Speaking to a crowd in Kansas City, Mo. that numbered more than a thousand, the Texas congressman asserted that the U.S. began heading down the wrong path 100 years ago during President Woodrow Wilson’s administration. Wilson led the country through World War I and advocated for the United States’ involvement in the League of Nations, a precursor to the United Nations.

    “We’ve slipped away from a true Republic,” Paul said. “Now we‘re slipping into a fascist system where it’s a combination of government and big business and authoritarian rule and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen.”

    Continues here…..

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ron-paul-u-s-slipping-into-a-fascist-system/

  55. SueQ,

    I personally see Judge Napolitano as a libertarian conservative. Certainly his past suggests this notion with shows like freedom watch and public support of Ralph Nader in the past presidential elections.

    I don’t doubt he is a libertarian. It also wouldn’t be a stretch to understand he is a supporter of Ron Paul. It’s just that I have never heard he did.

    There are many rational assumptions of why Judge Napolitano show was canceled from Fox news. Of course, the judge spoke many times against the Un-Constitutionality of ObamaCare, the “Over-reaching” Un-Constitutional acts of the Government (on all levels), and much more.

    Certainly, none of this is setting well with the Liberal Socialists on the left, nor the White House. And given the weakness of Fox news catering and pandering, it may be that its a combination of many things, not just because he is a supporter of Ron Paul.

    But that is simply my take. It may not be correct.

  56. Maybe you missed this Jon Stewart episode as well where the JUDGE supports the DOC….

    Tuesday January 10, 2012
    Andrew Napolitano
    Andrew Napolitano believes that Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who, if elected, won’t go to war or tell Americans how to live.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-10-2012/andrew-napolitano

  57. That episode of the JUDGE and Jon Stewart is one of my FAVORITES!! :)

  58. Katie,

    I don’t have a facebook account. What is the news about?

  59. Why the hell are liberal – specifically liberal WOMEN – thinking that the Republicans want contraceptive, pre natal screening, etc… outlawed or done away with? The notion that healthcare is a commodity (not a entitlement, or right) is absolutely foreign to them. They truly think that women’s rights are at stake. How did this get such a lively (and false spin) from the MSM and people are buying it?!

  60. Brought over from prior thread.

    William | February 19, 2012 at 12:46 pm |

    Cabby,

    I and a couple of others have over the past – run-ins with MissTickly’s conclusions on many issues.

    In this last read (Although I have not verified – and won’t) I found her questions/family research pertaining to the Freepers interesting.

    But that is pretty much it
    ****************************************
    I thought Ms Tickly did wonders to prove the Embossed seal on Obama’s forged birth certificate was it’s self a forgery of the original seal of the Hawaii DOH. The information about the seal was technical, but she proved the seal was phony, and as I remember she was threatened out of existence by someone who knew the names of her children and their school.

  61. A truly lovely idea….

    Pray for America… just one minute of your time…

    Don’t know much about this website but I found this compelling. One minute of prayer from all over our country at the same time, each day.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/just-one-minute/

  62. William,
    The anchors stood up and proposed an Obama fist bump ( they called it that) and they all joined in! Soledad Obrien was already chastised for high fiving the interviwer that skewered Santorum recently.

  63. WAKE UP FOLKS….another fear mongering event…..

    WASHINGHTON DC: FBI FOILS OWN TERROR PLOT (AGAIN)

    Date: Sunday, 19-Feb-2012 10:34:05

    © Getty Images
    FBI Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division Michael J. Heimbach
    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government, with the latest “terror attack” foiled being one entirely of their own design.
    USA Today reports that a suspect had been arrested by the FBI who was “en route to the U.S. Capitol allegedly to detonate a suicide bomb.” While initial reports portrayed the incident as a narrowly averted terrorist attack, CBS would report that a “high ranking source told CBS News the man was “never a real threat.”” The explosives the would-be bomber carried were provided to him by the FBI during what they described as a “lengthy and extensive operation.” The only contact the suspect had with “Al Qaeda” was with FBI officials posing as associates of the elusive, omnipresent, bearded terror conglomerate. The FBI, much like their MI5 counterparts in England, have a propensity for recruiting likely candidates from mosques they covertly run.
    This is but the latest in a string of national terror plots carried out from start to finish by the FBI, who has made a business of approaching likely candidates and grooming them to carry out terror attacks. In September 2011, another FBI terror operation targeting the Capitol was “foiled,” involving a patsy who believed he was to take part in an assault that would involve multiple gunmen and even a drone bomber provided to him by the FBI.
    Read More…
    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/241720-Washington-DC-FBI-Foils-Own-Terror-Plot-Again-

  64. Katie | February 19, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

    Why the hell are liberal – specifically liberal WOMEN – thinking that the Republicans want contraceptive, pre natal screening, etc… outlawed or done away with? The notion that healthcare is a commodity (not a entitlement, or right) is absolutely foreign to them. They truly think that women’s rights are at stake. How did this get such a lively (and false spin) from the MSM and people are buying it?!
    ******************************************
    It’s part of their stategy to put the usurper back into the White House for another, four, long, miserable, years. With them it doesn’t matter if it is true, they will make it up, criminals don’t care about the truth.

    Just be a good infidel, and believe what we tell you.

  65. POOF for FEB 19: The Change Has Come

    Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
    Date: Sunday, 19-Feb-2012 17:08:07

    Received via e-mail:
    *************************************************************************************

    ——– Original Message ——–
    From: 2goforth@Safe-mail.net
    To: 2goforth@Safe-mail.net
    Subject: The Change Has Come
    Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:53:03 -0500

    Sam Cooke
    A Change Is Gonna Come lyrics

    I was born by the river in a little tent
    Oh and just like the river I’ve been running ever since
    It’s been a long, a long time coming
    But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will

    It’s been too hard living but I’m afraid to die
    Cause I don’t know what’s up there beyond the sky
    It’s been a long, a long time coming
    But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will
    [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/sam_cooke/a_change_is_gonna_come.html ]
    I go to the movie and I go downtown
    Somebody keep telling me don’t hang around
    It’s been a long, a long time coming
    But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will

    Then I go to my brother
    And I say brother help me please
    But he winds up knocking me
    Back down on my knees

    Ohhhhhhhhh…..

    There been times that I thought I couldn’t last for long
    But now I think I’m able to carry on
    It’s been a long, a long time coming
    But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will

    Greetings and Salutations;

    I called my last missive, the profundity of all, for a very simple reason. What people think is simple, included so many things that most don’t even factor in. If you didn’t know, I’ll tell you, the bulk of the world’s central banks are owned by the dragons and right now, they are cleaning house. Big execs are finding themselves jobless, the status quo being wiped out. Now that some of the removals are hitting the public, at least the proof is in print. Very little about this stuff has been comfortable, but you know me, the worst the news is, the closer to freedom we all are, and that makes me happy. Hard to know stuff and keep your mouth shut about it. What has been in discussion here was always about the arrival of this ‘time’. This last week included final signatures as the folks in charge prepare to flip this world into something brand new. You are a part of the work to be done and it was always a part of it. It’s not about handing everyone on the planet 100,000 dollars, people need to be working members of the change. The ‘force’ of the changes. You know the old line about teaching someone to fish rather than just handing them fish, every time they get hungry. No one is going to ‘order’ you to do stuff, you have free will and a lot of ideas, you get to use them now.

    The veil is coming down and the wonders will never cease. The drug companies who’ve been dispensing poisons to people are on the their last days. The next system is about living life worth living. Not about you funding your own death. Many of those we consider the protectors of the people are not, they are simply extensions of the secret gov and you will see them go away. The fda and ama, prime examples, Grandma, had it right, she was always suspicious of the new fangled crap on the market, ‘spose to fix this or that. Why think giving the babies cold milk was a good idea? Where was Dr Spock’s mind rolling? I don’t remember nature providing women with hot and cold running breasts. Women didn’t even create bras, so what’s up with that. Some man with a control issue. My own dad had some weird ideas about the power of women, you’d just lose control after they turned their sights on you, as a man.

    I’m watching and listening to everybody’s frustrations being aired out here. Still poof keeps doing those infernal updates, every sunday. He’s crazy, some say. I am one who’s always said, don’t read my missives if they make you nuts, stay buried in the status quo, if that pleases you, You have free will, but don’t come whining to me when everything turns on it’s head and all is plain to see. Things are happening right now and still you prefer to ignore them as tho one thing has nothing to do with the other. Not my fault. What comes now is your choice on how you’ll manage when the unvarnished truth is given you. Not off the internet either, won’t be some conspiracy story, it’ll be the ‘uncut funk’, as george clinton used to call it. Quite the pioneer in ripping the lid off of things….thru music. In formation can come to you in all kinds of ways, your job is discernment. It’s like understanding that parents do lie and everything they told us was not true, they were opinions, and opinions are not facts. We must all become adults now. I know not the moment they engage it all but I do know it’s at hand and then I’ll go silent and no further input from me. Have fun, I’m outta here.

    Love and Kisses,

    Poofness

    http://www.youtube.com/allmoderncons

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/17/world/europe/italy-counterfeit-bonds/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

    Resignations Global Banks ….

    1 World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns
    http://business.time.com/2012/02/15/world-bank-president-zoellick-resigns/

    2 Anz Bank CFO Australia resigns
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/anz-bank-cfo-resigns-sparks-management-reshuffle-2012-02-15

    3 Nicaraqua Central Bank Pres Rosales resigns
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-15/nicaragua-central-bank-head-quits-amid-alba-spat-with-ortega.html

    4 Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-17/credit-suisse-s-private-bank-chief-asian-economist-tan-resigns.html

    5 GERMAN PRESIDENT Christian Ruff resigns
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102524/German-President-Christian-Wulff-forced-resign.html

    6 Royal Bank of Scotland Austrailin CEO Stephen Williams resigns
    http://blogs.wsj.com/dealjournalaustralia/2012/02/15/rbs-australia-head-to-step-down/

    7 Kuwait Central Bank CEO resigns
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/kuwait-central-bank-chief-resigns-amid-political-tensions/2012/02/13/gIQAcxrOAR_story.html

    8 Slovenia TWO largest Banks CEO’s (2) resign
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-15/slovenia-s-nova-kreditna-banka-maribor-ceo-plos-resigns.html

    9 Bank of India CEO Chaturvedi resigns
    http://www.livemint.com/2012/02/06160111/Dhanlaxmi-Bank-CEO-Amitabh-Cha.html

    10 Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO resigns
    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tamilnad-mercantile-bank-md-resigns/464259/

    11 GOLDMAN SACHS CEO Blankenfein to resign (Nothing printed on this yet
    UNLESS this JUST happened. Last article said he is not stepping down in
    2011).
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/06/lloyd-blankfein-goldman-s_n_858647.html

  66. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    SueQ | February 19, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    A truly lovely idea….

    Pray for America… just one minute of your time…
    ________________________________________________

    A wonderful idea. Let’s pray that it works and that we are not too late.

  67. jacqlynsmith | February 19, 2012 at 4:19 pm |

    Thanks for the link with the interview. It was indeed a good interview that I had never seen. I don’t agree with certain aspects taken out context by bloggers, but nonetheless, a good interview.

    No, I guess I have not been paying attention to the JUDGE jacqlynsmith – as you said – since I have not viewed EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW AND EVERY SINGLE SHOW given by him.

    But I must confess; I have never seen every single show and interview given by Judge Judy either…..

    Again, Thank you for the link to the interview.

  68. How Many More False Flags Do You Need To See…

    Date: Sunday, 19-Feb-2012 09:30:32

    —————–

    …before you understand how the ‘terronoia for profit’ schemes play out? It’s all in the name of corporate greed and profit.

    (1) Stage a ‘terror’ event. Supply the actors. Supply the weapons.

    (2) Announce you have ‘foiled’ the terror attempt you orchestrated.

    (3) Use your ‘foiled’ and ‘staged’ terror attempt that never existed – as a precursor for implementing more Nazi fascist control over the lives of every American, invading another country to steal their resources, control their banking, rape their economies, and destroy their infrastructure.

    It’s becoming more and more blatantly evident the FBI does not serve justice or the rule of law.

    The FBI is now officially a fascist tool, of the fascist corporate terronoia for profit tools.

    Whatever happened to decent men and women of conviction, serving the people with honor?

    ——————

    Source: SOTT

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/241720-Washington-DC-FBI-Foils-Own-Terror-Plot-Again-

  69. William….JUDGE N is the only reason I watched anything ON FIX NEWS therefore I have seen many of his programs….anytime he talks to or about RON PAUL it is always with respect and admiration….if the JUDGE goes……so do a lot of viewers…..hopefully he will be the NEXT VP and FIX NEWS will take a DUMP….JMO!

  70. Bob,

    I agree that MissTickly has devoted much time and discovered -or maybe the correct word would be – uncovered, many aspects of Hawaiian UPIA laws not abide by the State.

    Pertaining to the embossed seal and technical works? I do not comment on such technicalities as that is simply not my field of expertise. I have reviewed many different experts analysis and conclusions that do not match with MissTickly’s. But again, I am not the expert to declare one is correct over the other.

    As far as MissTickly’s family being threaten? I do not doubt that at all! There is not one single person that has ever come forward against the Government in legal cases, FOIA’s, UPIA’s, ect…, that has not been threatened with their lives such as Death Threats, Physical Threats, Harm to their Children and/or Families, in some way or another.

    It comes with the territory of exposing a corrupt Government.

  71. William; Sheriff Paul Babau was in the military for over 20 years and has been nothing but an inspiration to everyone who knows him…He was outed in the worst kind of way, via blackmail from an ex who he asked to sign an affidavit not to speak publicly of their relationship…The ex refused…The left is using this not only to attack Paul Babau but the Republican party saying that we are all ‘gay bashers’ and intolerant saying, ‘why would someone who is gay be in the Republican party who don’t stick up for thier causes’…I will stand by this man, if there were more of Paul Babau’s this world would be a better place. What the left wing rags have done to this man will back-fire in their faces, it was ugly and cruel.’

  72. Also I would like to ad that there are “gay” Republicans who vote ‘r’ for many different reasons one being they do not want to be labeled by their sexuality but for who they are and what they contribute to society as a person NOT a “gay person”…This will be a test for Paul Babau as well as for the Republican party.

  73. Bessie,

    My point is simple. No person, especially in the authority position of a Sheriff, can act in such a manner. You are certainly entitled to support him as a private citizen.

    But I have a few questions. Since the Sheriff is the part of the DOJ, is it correct for a Sheriff to arrest Cocaine Drug Traffic persons, Imprisons them, but does Cocaine himself? And when caught and confesses, his supporters declare “well his was a nice man”, or “well he retired from the Military”, or any other declaration to abstract from his wrong doings?

    That is simply a “Cop-out” of any expectation of a person in authority such as a Sheriff.

    Am I being unreasonable?

  74. Bessie, I agree with you. I know conservative minded people who are gay. They don’t advertise it but they are. I would just like to inquire of those who are without sin, just what is that like?

  75. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/obama-administration-arrests-praying-pastor-and-priest-outside-white-house-video/

    It Begins… Obama Administration Arrests Praying Pastor and Priest Outside White House (Video)

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, February 19, 2012, 4:44 PM
    It’s an Obama world…
    Six Christians were arrested outside the White House this week including a priest and a pastor while praying.

    World Net Daily reported on the arrests:

    Six people peacefully protested the Obama administration’s mandate requiring employers to provide contraceptives, sterilization, and abortion-producing drugs by kneeling in prayer in front of the White House, and they quickly were arrested and whisked away by U.S. Park police.

    “Occupy Wall Street protesters have been occupying federal property for months, but when we kneel in prayer, the police are called in and we are arrested,” said Father Wilde, one of the protesters.

    The six people, including Wilde, of Priests for Life, and Rev. Pat Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition, organized the peaceful protest on the heels of a Priests for Life lawsuit filed against the Obama administration seeking to permanently block the implementation of the HHS mandate.

    Wilde and the other protesters were cited for “failure to obey a lawful order” as they knelt in prayer in front of the White House. Each paid a $100 fine and was released from custody.

    Wilde said. “We knew that was the risk when we gathered today, and we will do it again regardless of the risk. What people of faith – of every faith – need to do now is stand with us.”

  76. Katie; I saw Rick Santorum on this morning and he was trying to clear up what the “libs” were trying to distort…He said that he was all for prenatal testing (being payed for by government) just not “all” test like, amniocentesis. (A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdominal wall, then through the wall of the uterus, and finaly into the amniotic sac. It is used in prenatal diagnosis of chromosomal abnormalaties and fetal infections)…What Santorum was saying that this test was used to determine if the baby had any abnormalties so the mother could choose wheather to keep or abort…Also this test is used in older mothers when the uterus is weak and they then puncture it with a needle???

  77. William | February 19, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    Bob,
    I agree that MissTickly has devoted much time and discovered -or maybe the correct word would be – uncovered, many aspects of Hawaiian UPIA laws not abide by the State.
    Pertaining to the embossed seal and technical works? I do not comment on such technicalities as that is simply not my field of expertise. I have reviewed many different experts analysis and conclusions that do not match with MissTickly’s. But again, I am not the expert to declare one is correct over the other.
    ===========================================
    Obviously MissTickly has never held a certified Hawaii COLB in her hand or she would easily see the errors of her speculations.

    Ron Polarik has physically seen certified COLBs. Miki Booth has. Danae has. And I have also.

    MT has based her allegations solely on internet photos. She makes issue of the terminology of embossment or debossment. What is verifiable is the actual physical examination of certified documents.

    When viewing my documents from the back, the seal imprint is indented .
    The factcheck image is also idented. It is difficult to read but the words STATE of HAWAII are at bottom of image.
    BACK
    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_8.jpg

    When viewing my documents from the front, the seal imprint is raised.
    FRONT
    The factcheck image is also raised and the letters are backwards.
    http://factcheck.org/Images/image/birth_certificate_images/birth_certificate_5.jpg

    Am I defending the Hawaii DOH or factcheck? Absolutly not! I agree with MT that the Obama COLB dated June 6, 2007 has serious authenticity problems. But embossment vs. debossment ain’t the problem.

  78. William; Babau has denied everything the tabloid has said other than him being “gay”, I cannot defend the “drug use” allegations I really don’t know…I do know being gay is not a crime nor will it hinder him in doing his job as Sheriff or Congressman…What I think we all have to be aware of is the evils of the media and what extent they will go to in order to destroy anything that is republican or that they don’t agree with…Look what they did to Herman Cain via Gloria Alred aka “blackmailer to the stars”…and I don’t know if you are acting “unreasonable” but I can tell you that you are acting just as the “left wing tabloid” wants you to react.

  79. SueQ,

    I certainly do not live without sin. But I am no Hypocrite and certainly not one in a position of authority to arrest and imprison people over the same.

    Is it ok to be a Sheriff and arrest people for child molestation, yet be a child molester?

    Is it ok to be a Sheriff and arrest people for drugs, yet be a drug addict and use them yourself?

    Is it ok to be a Sheriff and arrest people for Spousal abuse, but be a wife beater yourself?

    Is it ok to be a Sheriff and arrest people for Drunken Driving, but be a Drunken Driver yourself?

    At what point is that even defensible by anyone?

    This man (Sheriff) arrested many Illegal immigrants, jailed them, went to court to justify his and his departments arrests, deported them, publicly stood by his stance of law, yet kept his own personal boy toy which happened to be an illegal immigrant – for his personal sexual enjoyment, without deporting him nor arresting him?

    And you don’t see a hypocritical problem with that?

    This has nothing to do with whether he is gay or not… But of course, that will be the spin of it.

  80. Bessie,

    We do know that the person is not a legal citizen of the United States, of which he has already acknowledged.

    Again, this is not about the Sheriff being gay or not.

  81. William; I do agree that people in political office should not participate in any activity that cause them great shame or embarrassement that they wouldn’t want to be made public…because it makes them vulneralbe to blackmail as the Larry Sinclair incident , which was quite different, Obama was married 2 children, and was smoking crack…

  82. Bessie, perhaps there is an aspect of this situation with Seriff Babeu and others like him that you have not considered. Security clearances, I understand, view these issues as fodder for blackmail; therefore, anyone holding an office where national security is at stake, is a potential threat because of this susceptibility.

    Although there is tolerance for gays in our present society, homosexuality is not condoned by the Catholic Church nor by other fundamental groups. Furthermore, laws against the practice of sodomy still exist on the books of some states. Most of all, you will find no support for a belief that God doesn’t condemn such practices as being an abomination and against nature.

  83. William, I perhaps haven’t read everything involving this case that you have. I had not heard allegations of drug use etc. As far as allegations that he is gay, well I heard them but you were the one that introduced them here. As far as I know, he has admitted that he’s gay but denied the extortion. That’s all I know. The truth will emerge.

  84. Bessie,

    “Jose”, is an illegal immigrant. That is also publicly acknowledged by his attorney as well as the Sheriff. Where do you think the alleged threat came from?

    In other words. When the Sheriff said: ” I never threatened to to deport him” if he spoke about our relationship? It means the Sheriff “Knew” he was an illegal immigrant. He said himself. Not a tabloid.

  85. SueQ,

    I was using Drugs, Child molestation, ect.., as an example.

  86. Cabby; I have considered the blackmail aspect and I think that is what happened to Paul but he acted appropriately by going public…
    William; this is a quote from abc…“At no time did I or anyone who represents me ever threaten deportation, ever” he said at a press conference Saturday. “I never believed he was less legal than I or you are.”

    I don’t personally know the details of their relationship but I am more than hesitant to believe the main stream media and their attacks on everything Republican.

  87. STATES MARCH FORWARD ON ANTI-DETENTION CAMPAIGNS
    (quote)
    The arguments still are raging over whether several provisions in a national defense appropriations act authorize warrantless detentions of American citizens who may be described by Washington as “belligerents,” but states aren’t waiting for any final determination.

    Read more:
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/states-march-forward-on-anti-detention-campaigns/

  88. Arrest illegal immigrants, Jail them, deport them, but not your personal boy toy illegal immigrant? Don’t arrest him, Don’t deport him.

    And I’m the only one that see’s a problem with this hypocrisy?

    Again, I don’t care whether the Sheriff is gay or not. That’s not the point.

  89. Yes, Babeu is a hypocrite. Let’s drop it.

  90. Cabby,

    I personally put much effort reviewing the Heritage Foundation legal works over many years. The Heritage Foundation legal teams have written exclusively about this issue (detention camps, ect) and well worth the read when you get time.

    I will try to find you the link

  91. William
    I am completely in agreement.
    Our law enforcement community is well screened and well paid with the express goal of preventing such instances of impropriety. These people, for the most part, are armed, with arrest powers, and act under color of law, thus mandating the highest of both moral and ethical character. Anything short of that is corruption. What this officer has been accused of is morally, ethically, and legally offensive and minimally a violation of public trust.

  92. SueQ | February 19, 2012 at 7:42 pm |

    Yes, Babeu is a hypocrite. Let’s drop it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I was actually going to lead this hypocrisy into another national matter of illegal immigrants, job tolls, unemployment, and a recent personal experience. That conversation never materialized as I was unaware so many supporters of the Sheriff would spin this off as his being gay, rather than his position and misuse of authority should have taken precedence.

  93. A New Global Economic Restructuring

  94. Love this……..

    The One Man Caucus

  95. Bessie,
    Whatever the attacks are – we can be sure they are distorted. I believe the spin will become the gay issue and the conservative rupudiation of the gay lifestyle. We can’t win. We need to hold our collective breaths for Arpaio and Breitbart for our “surprise”. Oh, to have Obama vetted!!!!

  96. But that is for another day, not tonight.

  97. bob strauss | February 19, 2012 at 3:27 pm |

    I would like to hear what jbjd thinks about the chances of success, for Kerchner. I might not like what I hear, but I am willing to listen.
    *******************************************************************************
    Since you ask my opinion, I will provide an answer which can be applied to both this filing and any future filings, along these lines.

    Any legal actions with relation to the Constitutional eligibility of President Barack Obama for office, which involve these same litigants; lawyers; organizations; and funding sources ; can be discounted on their face. The fact that these complaints are invariably worded so that the Complainant maintains the burden of proof that President Obama is ineligible for office, notwithstanding no documentary evidence available in the public domain establishes he is ineligible; guarantees the failure of the action.

    No ballot law in PA requires that Presidential candidates are eligible for office, anyway; so there’s that, too.

  98. New:

    “ORLY TAITZ MISSES the POINT in MISSISSIPPI”

    http://jbjd.org/2012/02/19/orly-misses-in-mississippi/

  99. jbjd: notwithstanding no documentary evidence available in the public domain establishes he is ineligible; guarantees the failure of the action.
    =============================
    So I assume that the on the record response from both the govt’s e-verify system of the Obama + personal SSN in use = “no match” flagging now in the public domain….which would question the matter of current citizenship of any kind – why else would one have to establish a false SSN?? (leaving aside the uphill restructuring of the NBC permanent, for all time, legally understood and accepted definition which appears for the moment to be open for further litigation or at least attempts to do so) as well as the one and seemingly only document in the public domain of the entrance to the Indonesian grammar school with the name of “Barry Soetoro” (and its appearance of a legally accepted other nationally and parental identity pointing in the direction of adoption) and followed by no known legal name change afterwards which would make a swearing in and the oath of office under false identity, allegedly illegal, perjured and inviting impeachment would also guarantee a failure? Unfortunately, for all this time, THOSE documents of seemingly valid investigatory discovery, have not been given the emphasis while at the same time the plaintiffs have really been asking the courts for permission to order discovery of things the courts cannot assume on their own as actually existing other than what has been shown and spoken to by appointed authorities over them. And it would appear that what the Obama regime is REALLY frightened of is just that false current identity to be proven. I know that the upright patriotic Constitutional question of principle is exasperated when coming upon a brick wall of a country that is ignorant of its own Constitution and doesn’t seem much to care about its enforcement even after they are educated, but isn’t it time to use and emphasize what IS currently still in action as felonies with their own evidence in hand??? Can’t anyone get a representative from the SSN and the IRS who represent govt’s own system to validate the findings of the experienced investigators….because I haven’t seen that more convincing angle tried as yet when it seems to be staring everyone in the face.

  100. Just went into moderation at 11:18. Help CW and thanks.

    BTW, anyone else been watching the Downton Abbey series??

  101. William………………..
    The only question that I have regarding Arpiao is was the drug use of Arpiao proven in a valid Court of law beyond a reasonable doubt? Was he convicted of any wrongdoing? YES OR NO. While I have no background information regarding Babeau, I would only ask if he was a known HOMOSEXUAL why was he allowed to remain in law enforcement. Being a homosexual law enforcement officer is in itself an inditement,and once this is determined to be fact the officer is almost ALWAYS DISCHARGED. Was Babeau formally discharged or did he RESIGN from LAW ENFORCEMENT. I understand that the only thing he resigned from was the Romney campaign. Of course we must keep in mind that anyone involved with the Romney campaign are still considered FAIR GAME for the OBOTS. Anything that would stick to Babeau would also stick to Romney. All of this Reeks of OBOTconstruction.

  102. Well it appears that MMMMSSSS. JBJD has appeared right on schedule. Even though I personally did not ask for HIS/HER opinion. All I done was wonder when HE/SHE would appear. Looks as though I was right. Now we all KNOW Pennsylvania LAW as it relates to ballot eligibility FROM A TO Z. Well done MMMMSSSS.JBJD. You made my day!

  103. Mr. Bill…………..
    I think you once touched upon the NAZI insanity that swept Germany in the thirties,and into the forties until MOST of the perpetrators were caught and sent to their respective penalties. But a FEW also escaped. The JEWS have caught a number of them including Adolf Eichmann. But when you visit DER BILDERBERGS you will see in PLAIN sight the BLOCK DIAGRAM of the intended NEW WORLD ORDER. Once again we will hear the words “YA VE ARE DER SUPERMEN”,and the Nazi salute words ZIEG HEIL. That is unless Americans decide they don’t want to be forced to snap their arm upward and yell ZIEG HEIL. But then if this insanity finds it’s way into the fertile minds of our youth then it is clear that there is going to be a ressurrection of the Nazi belief. It only needs the fuel.

  104. …………a number of German civilians were asked why they allowed Hitler to rise to power. They all said they couldn’t stop it BY THEMSELVES. They were right. Yet many of them couldn’t even understand why they remained complacent as the insanity grew. They just went with the flow, so to speak. A few were given a little task in a village close to the site of an EXTERMINATION camp. Eisenhower personally ordered that the people of that town should remove and bury all of the remaining corpses that were stacked like cordwood. He even personally watched as they pursued the grisley task. Many of them wretched their guts up,but were ordered to keep at it. Eisenhower was really SENDING A MESSAGE. I believe that any Germans who still had one shred of morality left would indeed be doing a hell of a lot of soul searching within themselves for being so weak. In Nazi Germany UP was DOWN, and everybody swallowed the BULLSHI# HOOK ,LINE, AND SINKER.

  105. Today we see the alarming trends in the direction that the alleged POTUS is taking the country. We are at present nearly a CARBON COPY of Germany in the early and mid thirties. The JOSEF GOEBBELS of our alleged society are working very hard 24/7 to poison the minds of our youth. These are the media who try very hard to pervert anything that they think will be absorbed by young people. They want young people to believe that the Constitution is WRONG,and otherwise INVALID, they want our youth to become DEVIATES,and DRUG enshrouded. All of this adds up to a WIN for our so called PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS, who in reality are nothing more than reborn NAZIS. They spin lies about those who they are trying to destroy,and if there is nobody who knows the truth then the lie becomes the truth, and is perpetuated as such. If you think Socialism is so all great and wonderful,go to France with nothing and see how far you get. After 20 years there you will still have NOTHING. Why do you suppose that so many British people immigrate to the US…….they have discovered that in the US they had a chance to earn a living,and pursue a fullfilling career. That is until 2008. Now there is a HELL of a lot of doubt as to the future of America…….thanks to the DRUGS, THE PORN,and the turning away from Christianity.

  106. Bye Bye, from my dirty little trailer in slime city.

  107. Old Salt,
    A few of us, like Mr. Bill, yourself and I remember the Hitler days. Although we were young, we read the newspaper headlines, like “Hitler Marches Into Poland”, etc. Remember the newsreels in the theaters? That was where we got our pictures of the ongoing war, and they were probably a week or two after the fact.
    I recall some talk about possible atrocities taking place, but it wasn’t until the close of the war that we all found out how murderous that evil regime was. Unbelievable and gut-wrenching – gas chambers, lampshades made from the skin of the dead, people buried alive, etc.
    Do we realize that most living today know those times only from history books, and I imagine that the learning material is woefully lacking in facts.

    “Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are bound to repeat them.”

  108. ………..just one more little morsel to chew on before I shut down…….The Judge,and another was dropped from Fox programming for one simple reason. The JUDGE was by virtue of what he is the teller of certain truths. These were hurting the OBOT audience. So in short Murdoch has thrown in with the LIBERALS……why else would Alan Colmes, and Bob Beckel have returned in such prominence. I also believe that Hannity is next. Fortunately Beck saw the handwriting on the wall and quit Fox before the LIBERALS could get to him. Now the only way they can get to him is change ALL of the broadcasting laws, which they are unlikely to do because they would hurt themselves equally. In reality Fox in now no different than CNN or MSNBC. They are following the DRUM BEAT of the NAZI WH.

  109. Good morning Zach, et al.

  110. William | February 19, 2012 at 8:07 pm |

    SueQ | February 19, 2012 at 7:42 pm |

    Yes, Babeu is a hypocrite. Let’s drop it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I was actually going to lead this hypocrisy into another national matter of illegal immigrants, job tolls, unemployment, and a recent personal experience. That conversation never materialized as I was unaware so many supporters of the Sheriff would spin this off as his being gay, rather than his position and misuse of authority should have taken precedence.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    William, I apologize for making this a gay issue rather than what it is.. hypocrisy. When I hear bad stuff about people I admire, my first reaction is to make excuses for them. That is one of my many character flaws.

  111. Since the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy has been removed from the military itsef it would seem that those of that same “orientation” within law enforcement would also be able to use that military policy to also no longer feel it necessary to hide and thus be perhaps remain open to blackmail.

    I’m saying that because there appears to have been more of a different approach to Mr. Sinclair throughout blog discussion and that same “orientation” because he has been “useful” to the cause. So, when speaking to “hypocrisy” there just might be some of that towards individuals who may or may not be equal in actual “activity” resulting from the same types of “temptations” that come along with same “orientation”. It could be said that both individuals have contributed objectively to the community while their personal lives have been victims of their human histories and whatever errors that have been committed due to that separately. Should there then be a greater condemnation of one over the other???

  112. Dear Jonah (and all that have discussed this):

    Please take it up with the HDOH, not me. I asked them for the seal Jonah says exists, they say they don’t have it.

    That is not my fault and I am not misinterpreting anything. I provided them the Factcheck.org photos. They reviewed them and say they don’t have that seal. Sorry. It’s nothing personal.

    They have two embossed seals…but they do not have the seal in the factcheck.org org photos. Again, take it up with them. That isn’t my fault. Are you suggesting they disclosed the seal and I have withheld it or something? Because that did not happen and I am withholding NOTHING.

    I invite you all to request the debossed seal yourselves. Send the HDOH the factcheck.org photos and ask them yourselves.

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