Penny Pritzker Obama Economic advisor fundraiser, Media Matters aka Times of 1984, Destroy banks and economy, Blame others

Penny Pritzker Obama Economic advisor fundraiser, Media Matters aka Times of 1984, Destroy banks and economy, Blame others

“During its 15 years in New York City, ACORN has helped squatters claim derelict city-owned property, forced bankers to invest in low-income communities, and organized a war against the city’s workfare program.

It’s also developed a reputation for no-holds-barred tactics—getting results through adversarial campaigns against bankers, politicians and bureaucrats using confrontation and concession rather than consensus.”…ACORN document, February 1999

“We intend to close loopholes that allowed big financial firms to trade risky financial products like credit defaults swaps and other derivatives without
oversight; to identify system-wide risks that could cause a meltdown; to strengthen capital and liquidity requirements to make the system more stable; and to ensure that the failure of any large firm does not take the entire economy down with it. Never again will the American taxpayer be held hostage by a bank
that is “too big to fail.”…Barack Obama

“Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama says he’ll crack down on fraudulent sub-prime lenders. If he really means it he can start by firing his campaign finance chair, Penny Pritzker. Before taking over Obama’s campaign finances, she headed up the borderline shady and failed Superior Bank. It collapsed in 2002. The bank’s sordid story and its abominable role in fueling the sub-prime crisis are well known and documented. It engaged in deceptive and faulty lending, questionable accounting practices, and charged hidden fees. It did it with the sleepy-eyed see-no-evil oversight of federal. It made thousands of dubious loans to mostly poor, strapped homeowners. A disproportionate number of them were minority.

Obama’s home state, Illinois, ranked near the top of thee states in the percentage of sub-prime mortgages. Nearly 15 percent of home loans were sub-prime according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. But that only tells part of the tale. According to the Woodstock Institute, a Chicago non-profit that studies housing issues, the sub-prime fall-out was far higher in the predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods of South and Southwest Chicago.

The predictable happened when many of those lost their homes. When the bank collapsed Pritzker and bank officials skipped away with their profits and reputations intact. Aside from the financial and personal misery sub prime lenders caused the thousands of distressed homeowners, sub-prime lending has been a major cause of the housing crisis in many areas, and has dealt a sledgehammer blow to the economy. Obama has said nothing about Pritzker, Superior Bank, or their dubious practices.”…Huffington Post, February 29, 2008

“As a businesswoman and education advocate, I have spent much of my life working to improve America’s economic competitiveness — and put the American Dream within reach for more people.”…Penny Pritzker

Birds of a feather flock together. The old saying seems to be true. Take Barack Obama and Penny Pritzker. They both have done their part to destroy banks and blame others for the devastation. They both use Media Matters which looks a lot like the Times of George Orwell’s “1984″ to divert attention away from them.

Before I present more details on Penny Pritzker and her collaboration with Obama, here is an interesting article by David Moburg from November 8, 2002.

“Breaking the Bank”

“After federal regulators closed the $2.3 billion Superior Bank in July 2001, investigations revealed that the suburban Chicago thrift was tainted with the hallmarks of a mini-Enron scandal. New legal developments are adding additional twists, including racketeering charges. And yet the bank’s owners, members if one of America’s wealthiest families, ultimately could end up profiting from the bank’s collapse, while many of Superior’s borrowers and depositors suffer financial losses.

The Superior story has a familiar ring. Using a variety of shell companies and complex financial gimmicks, Superior’s managers and owners exaggerated the profits and financial soundness of the bank. While the company actually lost money throughout most of the ’90s, publicly it appeared to be growing remarkably fast and making unusually large profits. Under that cover, the floundering enterprise paid its owners huge dividends and provided them favorable loans and other financial deals deemed illegal by federal investigators.

Superior’s outside auditor, which doubled as a financial consultant, engaged in dubious accounting practices that kept feckless regulators at bay. Many individuals—disproportionately low-income and minority borrowers with spotty credit records—had apparently been exploited through predatory-lending techniques, including exorbitant fees, inadequate disclosure and high interest rates. In the end, more than 1,000 uninsured depositors lost millions of dollars in savings in one of the biggest bank failures of the past decade.

Yet unlike Enron, the people behind Superior’s collapse were not nouveau-riche corporate hustlers, but members of Chicago’s Pritzker family. The Pritzkers, whose two current patriarchs—Robert and his nephew Thomas—tie for 22nd place on Forbes’ list of the richest Americans, own an empire valued at more than $15 billion, including the Hyatt hotel chain, casinos, manufacturers and real estate, and they are major contributors to both political parties. They were equal partners in the private ownership of Superior with New York real estate developer Alvin Dworman, a longtime associate of Thomas’ father, Jay Pritzker, who died in 1999.

And Superior’s accounting and consulting was not provided by the disgraced Arthur Andersen, but by Ernst & Young. When regulators shuttered the bank, the publicity-shy Pritzkers, who take pride in their philanthropy (such as the prestigious international architecture award in the family name) quickly negotiated what appeared to be a generous settlement to stay out of the newspapers and the courtrooms.

But now both the Pritzkers and Ernst & Young may face the legal and public relations uproar they were trying to avoid. On November 1, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) sued Ernst & Young for more than $2 billion. The FDIC alleges that the firm concealed its improper accounting practices at Superior to facilitate the sale of its consulting unit for $11 billion, leading to Superior’s insolvency and ultimately costing the FDIC $750 million. Ernst & Young denies responsibility, blaming the bank’s managers and board, failed regulation and changing economic conditions. Investigators from the FDIC, Treasury Department and the General Accounting Office (GAO) had cited all those causes for Superior’s failure, but also had criticized Ernst & Young’s flawed work and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, in a case that has received no public notice, uninsured depositors are bringing a charge of financial racketeering against one-time board chairwoman Penny Pritzker, her cousin Thomas Pritzker, Dworman, other bank principals and Ernst & Young. In this federal class-action suit filed under the RICO (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) statute, plaintiffs’ attorney Clint Krislov claims that those who controlled Superior induced depositors to put money in the bank, “corruptly” funneling money out of the bank to “fraudulently” profit the owners. Pritzker attorney Stephen Novack says that the defendants will ask to dismiss the case as having no merit. Such a RICO suit has rarely, if ever, been used to recover money lost in a bank failure, partly because the owners in such cases, in the words of bank consultant Bert Ely, “usually don’t have a pot to piss in.” But the Pritzkers have a gold-plated pot.

This may not be the last of legal battles stemming from the Superior failure. Published reports indicate that a federal grand jury has been investigating potential criminal wrongdoing and that the Internal Revenue Service could press claims against the owners for tax evasion.

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The problems at Superior Bank date back to at least 1988, when the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, in an effort to conceal the depths of the developing savings-and-loan crisis, hastily made generous arrangements for the takeover of several failed thrifts. The Pritzkers and Dworman bought the failed Lyons Federal for the relatively modest price of $42.5 million, with each using a shell corporation to control half of Coast-to-Coast Financial Corporation (CCFC), a holding company created to own Superior.

Superior opened for business with substantial federal assistance and guarantees, but the Pritzkers also reportedly received $645 million in tax credits as an inducement to buy Lyons. This was not the first Pritzker-Dworman joint venture into banking. In 1985, the partners had acquired New York-based River Bank America. But in 1991, federal and state regulators closed River Bank, which was engaged in large-scale real estate speculation, when they discovered that the bank had inadequate capital and was badly managed. Nelson Stephenson, the chief financial officer of River Bank, later became chairman of Superior.

In 1992, the Pritzkers and Dworman transferred ownership of Alliance Funding Company, a nationwide mortgage banking company the partners had founded in 1985, to Superior Bank, which began specializing in selling securities backed by subprime mortgages. Prospective homeowners with less-than-stellar credit ratings often must turn to such subprime lenders, which typically charge higher interest rates to compensate for the higher risk of default.

But a great many subprime lenders also unfairly exploit borrowers, seeking them out through aggressive television, direct mail and telemarketing techniques, then charging excessively high interest rates and exorbitant fees. Since many borrowers are in difficult situations and financially unsophisticated, they often are duped into agreeing to harsh conditions, such as stiff penalties for pre-paying their mortgages if their credit improves or interest rates drop, or improper costs, such as having the entire dividend for a 30-year-mortgage insurance policy included up-front in their mortgage.

Superior Bank accumulated mortgages that originated from its own branches or Alliance offices, as well as those bought from other brokers. They would then issue securities with high credit ratings but lower interest rates than what they charged borrowers. As collateral, these securities were backed by the stream of income from the mortgages. Superior Bank would retain “residual interests”—part of the collateral mortgages plus some of the excess mortgage interest—but they also retained responsibility for all of the potential losses, or what’s known in the business as “toxic waste.”

Because of the greater risks of subprime lending, it was difficult to project the future value of Superior’s residual interests. But aided by Fintek, another subsidiary of CCFC, and abetted by Ernst & Young, Superior made extremely rosy projections and—like Enron—booked those projected profits as immediate, or “imputed,” earnings. The extremely optimistic value of some residual interests was also counted as part of Superior’s capital, which banks must maintain at regulated levels—depending on their condition and type of business—to make sure that depositors can be repaid.

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Examiners from the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS) expressed concern about aggressive subprime policy, the value of residuals, the level of capital and other bank practices early in the ’90s. But Superior’s managers and board filed erroneous reports and repeatedly failed to take any of the action that regulators recommended. Nevertheless, according to investigators, the OTS did not take any corrective action. They were persuaded that management was experienced (even though two top managers had been involved in large losses or failures at other thrifts); that Ernst & Young had given its approval in annual audits without any reservations (even though the firm had a long history of penalties and censure for its involvement in high-profile thrift failures); and that “because of their financial status, the OTS placed a great deal of reliance on the ability of the owners to inject capital if the institution encountered any financial difficulties,” as the FDIC inspector general’s report stated.

Meanwhile, Superior was growing rapidly: Loan volume rose from $200 million generated in 1993 to $2.2 billion in 1999, with the value of securities issued reaching $9.4 billion. The bank reported a return on assets that was 12 times the industry average. But its reliance on the risky residual interests from its mortgage securitization soared to levels far out of line with the rest of the industry, and by 2000 the bank’s residual interests were valued at more than four times its less fictional capital (such as stockholder equity). Superior expanded its business to subprime auto loans, then had to pull out because it was clearly failing.

All this should have looked like a sea of red flags to regulators, but they issued modest warnings and failed to follow up when management ignored their recommendations. Superior’s management actually revised its accounting methods in 1997 to further exaggerate its projected earnings, and it more than doubled the volume of the lowest quality loans in the following years. It was all a house of cards, but a very lucrative one for the owners. During the ’90s, the bank paid CCFC—and thus the Pritzkers and Dworman—more than $200 million in dividends.

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There was a small problem, however. From 1995 on, investigators concluded, Superior was actually losing money, except for the fictional “imputed” earnings. So the dividends effectively were being paid out of the growing deposits, a practice that Ely describes as having “Ponzi-like characteristics.” Furthermore, in 2000 Superior sold loans to CCFC, which the holding company immediately resold for a $20.2 million profit. Such a sale of assets at less than fair market value to insiders is a violation of federal law. There were other loans made to CCFC and its affiliates totalling $36.7 million—all in violation of the Federal Reserve Act—that were never repaid, the inspector general reported.

Superior also supposedly loaned the Dworman family’s shell company $70 million in 1996, but even though Dworman promised to pay it all back by the end of 1999, the inspector general found no evidence of any payments being made. (Dworman reportedly claimed that the money was a dividend payment concealed as a loan, which would raise questions about tax evasion.) All these transactions enriched the Pritzkers and Dworman at the expense of the bank—and ultimately the FDIC insurance fund and uninsured depositors.

In the spring of 1999, both the OTS and FDIC downgraded Superior’s rating. Over the course of nearly two years, Superior and Ernst & Young resisted the analysis and recommendations of the regulatory agencies, but by January 2001 Ernst & Young finally agreed that the accounting of the residual assets had been wrong. The bank was deeply troubled even in good times, but the vulnerabilities would only increase. As interest rates declined, borrowers would try to pay off high-interest loans and refinance; as unemployment rose, increasing numbers of subprime borrowers would default.

After downgrading the bank further, regulators concluded that it was “significantly undercapitalized” and needed an infusion of $270 million, which the Pritzkers—with some participation by Dworman—agreed in March to provide. Then in July regulators reported that, as a result of overly optimistic assumptions, the bank would need to write off an additional $150 million of of its residual interests. The Pritzkers pulled out of the agreed capital plan, and the feds closed the bank.

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Wanting to avoid a lawsuit, the secretive Pritzkers quickly agreed to what the FDIC hailed in December as the biggest settlement they had ever negotiated. The Pritzkers would pay $100 million immediately, then $360 million over 15 years. But there were lots of little provisions in the agreement that benefit the Pritzkers. First, as former bank consultant and longtime thrift watchdog Tim Anderson notes, the $100 million doesn’t even quite pay back all of the unpaid loans made to the owners. The Pritzkers also pay no interest on the $360 million, and since it is paid over many years, the real cost to the Pritzkers may be only around $250 million. As of September 2002, according to FDIC figures, the insurance fund was still out $440 million after this settlement.

But it gets even sweeter for the Pritzkers. The FDIC also agreed to pay the Pritzkers 25 percent of any claim won in a lawsuit against Ernst & Young. Since the FDIC is now suing for $548 million, the Pritzker share could be $137 million. On top of that, the agreement stated that the Pritzkers get half of any civil penalties from such a lawsuit (after certain agency expenses). The FDIC is asking for triple damages, or $1.64 billion; the Pritzker share could be over $800 million.

Even taking into account the “record” settlement they made with the FDIC, the Pritzkers could make more than $700 million in additional profit for running a financial institution into the ground. They had already profited handsomely, sharing in the more than $200 million in dividends to the owners in the ’90s. They accomplished all this with an investment of about $21 million for each partner—though the Pritzkers had also already benefited from $645 million in tax credits.

Meanwhile, roughly 1,000 depositors who had deposits above $100,000 in a Superior account—money above the FDIC-insured limit—lost about $65 million. Most of them were middle-class individuals, attracted by Superior’s high interest rates. In the three months just before the bank was closed, there was a surge of $9.6 million in uninsured deposits. Since about 54 percent of the uninsured money has since been repaid as Superior was sold off, the depositors have still collectively lost about $30 million. (That just happens to be the amount that the Pritzkers gave to the University of Chicago’s Pritzker School of Medicine earlier this year.)

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Some of that money could have paid back Fran Sweet for the roughly $138,000 that she has still not recovered from her deposits at Superior. After retiring as a manager at a telecommunications company, Sweet was seeking a secure place to put her entire retirement savings of about $500,000. “I knew the Pritzkers were owners of the bank,” she says, “and they were a reputable name in Chicago. I had no idea that the bank was in trouble.”

She even asked a bank manager if there was anything wrong with the bank. “She said, ‘No, nothing is wrong, We’re owned by the Pritzkers,’ ” Sweet recalls. “I want it all back. I worked 23 years for a company and got this money from them as a buyout, and the Pritzker family and Dworman stole it from me.”

People at the other end of the deal—who borrowed from Superior—are also still hurting as a result of the scam. The National Community Reinvestment Coalition, which monitors bank lending, last year accused Superior of participating in a variety of predatory practices, including overly aggressive telemarketing, targeting low-income minority borrowers, and disproportionately incorporating problematic “balloon payments” in the loans. One borrower in Philadelphia, represented by attorney Brian Mildenberg, ended up in bankruptcy partly because Superior didn’t properly credit him for payments he had made. In another case, Cleveland construction worker Dan Sutton claims that a broker for Superior falsified papers to inflate his mortgage and charged exorbitant fees.

The Pritzkers are likely to make out like bandits, which is exactly what customers like Sweet and Sutton think they are. All of the government studies of Superior’s failure agree that there’s plenty of blame to spread around. As the FDIC inspector general’s report concluded, the bank managers pursued an ultra-risky strategy based on unrealistic assumptions and unjustifiably pumped dividends and illegal, unpaid loans out of the bank and into the owners’ coffers.

Ernst & Young provided inaccurate audits, resisted regulators, and did not test or properly disclose crucial financial assumptions. The OTS didn’t investigate or follow up on problems adequately, ignored warning signs for years, and unduly relied on the expertise of managers, the auditor’s report, and the promise of the wealthy owners to put their money behind the bank’s strategy, which they ultimately refused to do. While the FDIC lawsuit against Ernst & Young correctly highlights the accounting firm’s sorry record of accounting malpractice, it ignores the dubious history of the Pritzkers and Dworman in cases ranging from tax evasion to bank mismanagement, instead praising the Pritzkers for their charity.

What looked like a good deal for the FDIC in resolving Superior’s failure is now looking like yet another opportunity for the wealthy Pritzkers to further profit from their misdeeds. Certainly, the record suggests that Ernst & Young bears responsibility, but so do the Pritzkers and Dworman. The question is not just who will extract money from whose pocket in the aftermath of the bank failure, but also whether the rich are simply above the law. The RICO lawsuit against bank managers, owners and auditors raises the issue of criminal conspiracy and at least attempts to recover damages for the uninsured depositors. But beyond that, argues thrift watchdog Anderson, “I think there ought to be a criminal investigation.””

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/671/

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102 responses to “Penny Pritzker Obama Economic advisor fundraiser, Media Matters aka Times of 1984, Destroy banks and economy, Blame others

  1. Interesting read,

    I would add that the Legislative branch over the decades also contributed to the banking failures, only in the end to excuse themselves as the architects for creating the financial bubble.

    This also appears to be the same strategy with many commodities such as Oil and energy.

  2. Coldwarvet,

    I apologize I have not been available as usual to post or respond to comments, either directed to me or something of interest. You and I.B. exchanged a few Idea’s and comments pertaining to the Natural Born Citizenship clause a couple of days ago. I have a couple of great essay’s that I reviewed in the past that you may or may not have read. Let me know if you’re interested and around. I will link them for you.

  3. William, I left you a message on prior thread.

    Did anyone hear candidate Romney say last night that employees should be checked with E-verify to see if they are here legally? He emphasized it several times. I’m yelling at the TV, “Yeah, how about the one sitting in the W.H.?” As we all know by now, his Soc. Sec. No. does NOT pass E-verify.

    How can there be such a disconnect in people’s minds? Those candidates ALL know these things about the usurper. It never ceases to appall.

  4. CW, it has been absolutely revolting to hear how top accounting firms not only in the country, but the world, – like Arthur Anderson, Ernst & Young, etc., have betrayed the accounting profession as well as our citizens.

    Years ago it was attorneys who seemed to be the worst culprits in such matters, but when CPA firms, who are held to the highest and strictest standards, began to be involved in cover-ups, it was indeed a sad day for the profession and for America. They overlooked red flags which should have been recognized and violated basic auditing rules. If certified financial statements cannot be trusted, what can be?

  5. WND TV to live-stream Arpaio eligibility report
    March 1 news conference to announce findings of 1st official probe
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    PHOENIX, Ariz. – When Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio announces the findings of the first official law-enforcement investigation into the questions surrounding Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office at a news conference Thursday, March 1, WND TV will be there to provide exclusive live-streaming, founder and editor Joseph Farah announced today.

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  6. Cabby – AZ | February 23, 2012 at 10:25 am |

    CW, it has been absolutely revolting to hear how top accounting firms not only in the country, but the world, – like Arthur Anderson, Ernst & Young, etc., have betrayed the accounting profession as well as our citizens.

    Years ago it was attorneys who seemed to be the worst culprits in such matters, but when CPA firms, who are held to the highest and strictest standards, began to be involved in cover-ups, it was indeed a sad day for the profession and for America. They overlooked red flags which should have been recognized and violated basic auditing rules. If certified financial statements cannot be trusted, what can be?
    **********************************
    Certainly not the pResident.

  7. I wish i could get excited about sheriff joe’s “findings”. I get the feeling we’re going to be let down, AGAIN. I’m thinking he has nothing new and/or he’s going to say something along the lines “where there’s smoke there’s fire”. If he had anything truly criminal he wouldn’t have waited 30 days to announce it.

  8. PS.
    and we all know that NO ONE will investigate the smoke….it will be business as usual for the GOP, the judicial system and the media…Which will infuriate me even more

  9. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    The World Leaders ALL know what we know. That includes our friends and enemies. He has placed himself into a position for which the Natural Born Citizen clause was put into the Constitution in the first place. No possibility of a interloper gaining power of our country. And I might add, into a position of which he can be blackmailed. “Another fine mess you have got us into Stanley”. And I don’t mean the Stanley from Laurel & Hardy.

  10. hockeyfan530 | February 23, 2012 at 10:35 am |
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    I tend to agree with you here. There is no way that the “posse” could get their hands on any original documents out of HI. The only emphasis that could be made for more immediate action I think would be the recent responses from the SSA re: the fraudulent SSN being used by Obama. That would be an ongoing felony and would more currently demand some kind of response re: identity and use of name at time of swearing in. But that’s not what you hear being emphasized. So I can’t see much more than “serious questions are raised from the info we’ve seen, etc.”. I wonder too if the “posse” has any clout with the intelligence agencies, esp. the CIA if they should discover past involvement with Obama that is now protected due to “National Security”. If not then they’ll only get blowback from the protectors and won’t have the authority to go further. I hope for the opposite but I too wonder why the Sheriff mentioned only investigating because of request from Tea Party and that the President should be thankful for this investigation to clear the air?????

    Again, hope I’m proven wrong.

  11. Cabby – AZ | February 23, 2012 at 10:14 am |
    William, I left you a message on prior thread.

    Did anyone hear candidate Romney say last night that employees should be checked with E-verify to see if they are here legally? He emphasized it several times. I’m yelling at the TV, “Yeah, how about the one sitting in the W.H.?” As we all know by now, his Soc. Sec. No. does NOT pass E-verify.
    ================================
    Heh! I thought I heard an echo to my own similar shouts at the boob tube.

  12. Today’s Washington Post: Only Paul’s Plan Will Reduce the Deficit…WAKE UP AMERICA….ONLY ONE IS STANDING WITH “WE THE PEOPLE”….

    Read more here….

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/report-debt-will-swell-under-top-gop-hopefuls-tax-plans/2012/02/22/gIQAzAJvUR_story.html?wpisrc=dailypaul

  13. Observer, Ha! I heard similar here, too!!

    Has anyone read this? (For what it’s worth)
    Rand Paul says ‘it would be an honor to be considered’ as Romney’s veep (this explains a lot)

    (quote)
    Nobody knows if some sort of bargain has been made, but it is interesting that Rep. Ron Paul has never really attacked Mitt Romney, yet he has frequently attacked more conservative candidates at just the moment they were beginning to pose a threat to Romney. (For example, consider his latest ad, attacking Rick Santorum.)
    The timing has been noticeable.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/22/rand-paul-says-it-would-be-an-honor-to-be-considered-as-veep-this-explains-a-lot/#ixzz1nDtMn7aC

  14. Hockeyfan530 and Observer,
    I’m sharing the same reservations as you with respect to the findings of the Cold Case Posse. I, too, hope we are wrong, but it is just that we have had our hopes dashed so often. It is sort of a defense mechanism, I guess, to protect us from a “fall”. It is human nature to want to be pleasantly surprised rather than hopelessly disappointed.
    GO, JOE, GO!!!

  15. I want to make sure everyone reads this part…it is an EXCERPT from the article I posted previously……time to do your homework and know the RHETORIC by the other candidates do NOT match their plans or their PAST actions…..ONLY ONE man has been CONSISTENT on what he says and what he does…..that man is DR. RON PAUL……he is the ONLY one who can beat BO…..time to do your HOMEWORK AMERICA……we can TRUST one man to do what is right!!!

    “The national debt is likely to balloon under tax policies championed by three of the four major Republican candidates for president, according to an independent analysis of tax and spending proposals so far offered by the candidates.

    The lone exception is Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who would pair a big reduction in tax rates with even bigger cuts in government services, slicing about $2 trillion from future borrowing.

    According to the report — set for release Thursday by U.S. Budget Watch, a project of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget — former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum and former House speaker Newt Gingrich would do the most damage to the nation’s finances, offering tax and spending policies likely to require trillions of dollars in fresh borrowing. ”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/report-debt-will-swell-under-top-gop-hopefuls-tax-plans/2012/02/22/gIQAzAJvUR_story.html?wpisrc=dailypaul

  16. Observer…..

    I too have been giving Sheriff Joe’s news conference a lot of thought…

    First, if he found anything that was criminal, why has he waited over 4 months to announce it? Isn’t that called obstruction of justice?

    Secondly, his recent comments about ” the president should be thankful for this investigation and it will clear the air” really bothers me. That sounds like we have been had again.

    Thirdly, why has the Department of Justice backed off of the Sheriff in their investigation of wrongdoing by the Maricopa Country Sheriff’s Department? For a while that was all that was on the news…now nothing. Was there a quid pro quo deal done?

    Like you Observer, I hope and pray I’m wrong, but like all the other “investigations” and exposures of Obama and his criminal machine, they turned into a lot of “sound and fury amounting to nothing” but disappointment.

    And, like you and I, and any THINKING citizen those challenges didn’t expose anything about the Usurper that we didn’t already know.

    Guardedly, I say, we shall see what “America’s Sheriff” comes up with on March I.

  17. The system is TERRIFIED of Ron Paul. Let’s viralise this video….WAKE UP AMERICA…….

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  19. Hi Cabby,

    Yes, I just now reviewed your reply. I had some running around to do and just got back home. -sigh- again, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. You are correct in your assessment with the elders. Life (as we know it) is funny in those ways when we are young isn’t it? I remember my parents telling me on many occasions “Life is quick – don’t wish you were older” and “Enjoy your youth – time will pass by you quickly enough”…

    For some youthful ignorant reason(s), I never believed them…. Now here I am a grandfather….reaching the top of the pyramid within my grasp.

    I remember (many – ..cough.. – years ago) my father called me to wish me a happy 40th birthday. He attempted to rub it in by saying in laughter: how’s it feel to be 40 now? Being quick witted, I responded: How’s it feel to have a 40 year old son? Silence on the phone….(smile)

    Yes, the elders were correct, and so were our parents. Time fly’s.

  20. Again our Muslim pResident has shown his true colors.

    This week an incident occurred where detainee cells were being cleared out. Soldiers doing this job were ORDERED to discard and burn materials that the detainees had discarded.

    Some Korans were among the discarded materials. It was clear the terrorist had already “defaced” these “holy” book with their “extremist inscriptions”….

    Two American soldiers were killed as a result of this incident.

    Nevertheless, our Muslim pResident quickly offered his apoligies to the Afghan people.

    He said, “I wish to express my deep regret for this reported incident. I extend to you and the Afghan people my sincere apologies.The error was inadvertent. I assure you that we will take steps to avoid any recurrence, to include HOLDING ACCOUNTABLE THOSE RESPONSIBLE”

    Will Obama also offer his apologies to the families of the two soldiers killed by the crazy mob of extremist, or will they just be collateral damage?

    How can any soldier respect this piece of garbage as their Commander -in-Chief? By his own apology, he will be looking to hang some poor Privates who were just following orders of their superiors.

  21. Hi William,
    What IB and myself were debating (rather spiritedly) was more the perceived crux for the cure of the NBC issue.
    IB maintains the problem lies within the judicial branch itself which, I believe, could indeed be remedied at some future time. My personal view of this is that the judicial, by it’s very nature, is rather whimsical as to what it deems important enough to examine even under normal circumstances. When corrupted, as indeed appears to be the case, the situation appears to be even worse and adjudication(or even consideration), for that matter, seems at present at least, to be unrealistic.
    Granted, present circumstances have definitely shown a considerablre amount of light on the subject, but has not really changed the situation and has more than obviously led to a great amount of cynicism and frustration within the public view.
    My argument was couched within the achievable spectrum of changing public policy which, in actuality, would Constitutionally hobble the judicial…i.e. It is a lot more difficult to change appointments of the judicial (Obama and the DNC know this) than it is to use the power of the vote to change the legislative.
    This was not a debate of the NBC issue itself.
    I’m always up for an essay…

  22. Jacqlynsmith,

    I’m not sure what to make of the reports whereby Mitt “may” acquire a deal with Ron Paul as his Vice?

    Of course, this is rumor. What is your take on this acceptation?

  23. This is really good and needs to go out to everyone you know……BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW and STOP THE AGGRESSION on other countries…….

    If any other candidate got support like this from the troops, it would be all over the news.

    “When the Republican establishment and the democrat establishment attack the same guy, and the media ignores him, you know you’ve found your guy.

    RON PAUL IS THE CHOICE OF THE TROOPS

  24. rminnc
    I agree with your assessment of Arpaio. Even from the beginning, he never really seemed to be “with the program” so to speak, which, given the naturally suspicious nature of law enforcement, I found rather odd. In other words, he didn’t even seem to be aware there was a problem. In fact, I’m appalled at how ignorant our government, as a whole, appears to be concerning these exceptionally massive issues.
    The other side of the coin however, says that he was deliberately trying to appear unbiased…

  25. Cabby – AZ | February 23, 2012 at 11:34 am |
    Observer, Ha! I heard similar here, too!!

    Has anyone read this? (For what it’s worth)
    Rand Paul says ‘it would be an honor to be considered’ as Romney’s veep (this explains a lot)

    (quote)
    Nobody knows if some sort of bargain has been made, but it is interesting that Rep. Ron Paul has never really attacked Mitt Romney, yet he has frequently attacked more conservative candidates at just the moment they were beginning to pose a threat to Romney. (For example, consider his latest ad, attacking Rick Santorum.)
    =========================
    Yep, Cabby. Rush began today by talking about his “epiphany” back more than a month or so ago, writing an email that mentioned his idea of Rand Paul (and the Mail even mentioned Ron himself) being a possible VP for Mittens and pointing out that Paul never attacks Romney…and it was evident last night….”hands off policy between Romney and Paul”…agreement: no attacks either direction. Even though Paul has pulled out of MI he’s still running ads against Santorum there…..and NOT against Romney!!! hmmmm

    I noticed too that with every single candidate having some kind of obvious moderate or liberal or progressive or libertarian or pacifist purposeful actions in their backgrounds the only one being honest about admitting not only the “mistake” but why was Santorum. Rush: Santorum being “blatantly honest” because, with a Republican President, and you have a voting record as a “team player” during that time, it is a advantageous for those like Romney to never have had a voting record!! Of course he does have the “Romneycare and his own big “ear marks” lobbying for the Olympics which was therefore NOT any single handed “turn around”!! As they all attempted to shout the audience to direct their attention only in the Romney direction, they each had at least 3 fingers pointing back at themselves but without the same honesty in admission and owning their own pasts!!

  26. William | February 23, 2012 at 12:50 pm |

    Jacqlynsmith,

    I’m not sure what to make of the reports whereby Mitt “may” acquire a deal with Ron Paul as his Vice?

    Of course, this is rumor. What is your take on this acceptation?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Both my insiders take and my own opinion is that the GOP establishment made up of mostly NEO CONS are scared to death of a PAUL presidency for wince the SUN would shine in and the TRUTH would be revealed for all to see…..besides…… the DOC will never ENDORSE any of them and they know it…especially ROMNEY…..he is NWO puppet….he is bought and sold by the bankster gangsters…..RON PAUL has been fighting against the tyranny of the FEDERAL RESERVE for years….he’s NOT about to give them anything they want…..HELL would freeze over first!!

    Also the Doc has already indicated that JUDGE N comes to mind as a great VP…..it is PRESIDENT PAUL or NO ONE at ALL…..NO WAY MITTENS can beat BO without RON PAUL and his supporters which the GOP establishment KNOWS they aren’t going to get…the games are just beginning as the TRUTH is about to come forward….I don’t know the date….but don’t be surprised to see several BIG names being arrested in the NOT TOO distant future……this is NOT just about BO…..this corruption has been going on for years……I’m sure most here don’t even know that BUSH sr. is NOT a natural born citizen either…..that’s right…..we have been infiltrated by the NAZI regime a long time ago……Sr. is but ONE of them!!! Do your research and you will soon see what I am talking about!

  27. rminnc | February 23, 2012 at 12:39 pm |

    Again our Muslim pResident has shown his true colors.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am amazed that throughout many of Obama’s tours, he finds not only the time, but the necessity to visit history Muslim Mosques with many Muslim dominated Countries. He abides by each of their religious customs when doing so.

    What I find interesting, is when he [Obama] attempts – but fails to visit other Countries Religious sites to honor them due to their restrictions of honoring them?

    Muslims and Mosque, no Problem. Everyone else in the world, an issue… Why?

  28. I want to share a comment I read from:

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/sheriff-joe-arpaios-eligibility-report.html#comment-form

    Here it is:

    “From John Albert Dummett Jr, a democratic POTUS candidate who is challenging obama’s eligibility….

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio is supposed to release devastating information concerning Barack Obama on March 1st. He was supposed to release this information in February but has not yet done so.
    In early December I met with Arpaio and I know what this information is. I was sworn to secrecy until Arpaio released the information.

    If what he does release does not match what I was told I will set the record st…raight. The information I know is more than enough reason for Obama not to be President of the United States.
    I heard the information from the lead investigator of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse.

    I will not allow for any more lies. I am not your run of the mill everyday politician.

    I am a patriot first and will give my life to defend my country.

    Every politician running knows the truth too.

    So does everyone currently serving in office or sitting on a bench.

    I know the truth and why there is a cover-up and only agreed until the end of February to remain silent because I was assured the problem would be taken care of.

    I will see to it our Constitution and way of life is defended. Everyone who is following me or is a supporter of mine knows about my dedication to this nation. They can vouch for my voracity.

    Next week will be most interesting….

    February 23, 2012 5:47 AM”

  29. I want to share a comment I read from:

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/sheriff-joe-arpaios-eligibility-report.html#comment-form

    Here it is:

    “From John Albert Dummett Jr, a democratic POTUS candidate who is challenging obama’s eligibility….

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio is supposed to release devastating information concerning Barack Obama on March 1st. He was supposed to release this information in February but has not yet done so.
    In early December I met with Arpaio and I know what this information is. I was sworn to secrecy until Arpaio released the information. If what he does release does not match what I was told I will set the record st…raight. The information I know is more than enough reason for Obama not to be President of the United States. I heard the information from the lead investigator of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse.
    I will not allow for any more lies. I am not your run of the mill everyday politician. I am a patriot first and will give my life to defend my country. Every politician running knows the truth too. So does everyone currently serving in office or sitting on a bench.

    I know the truth and why there is a cover-up and only agreed until the end of February to remain silent because I was assured the problem would be taken care of.

    I will see to it our Constitution and way of life is defended. Everyone who is following me or is a supporter of mine knows about my dedication to this nation. They can vouch for my voracity.

    Next week will be most interesting….

    February 23, 2012 5:47 AM”

  30. And just so everyone knows again, as I have said before. The name Soebarkah – is Indonesian. It means “Blessed by Allah”.

    I know this first hand.

    Of course – I don’t know how Barry/Obama came about such a name in his records. I can only tell you what it means by definition. It is not an uncommon name given, nor is it uncommon in Indonesia for those with the Muslim faith to name such children.

  31. js,
    I have given you great leeway on pushing Ron Paul.
    Suppose I were to take a similar position on Santorum.

  32. Guard your back well John Albert Dunmmett Jr…….
    the political forest is full of evil men.

  33. JS,

    WOW!!!!!

    I don’t even know how to respond at this point? I gather that your past should and does direct my conscious decisions, but again, you blew me away with your response.

    Wow….

  34. Here’s another tidbit I just heard…..don’t know if it is TRUE but time will tell won’t it…..

    “John Huntsman has been promised SoS (Hillary goes to World Bank) if he runs as third party candidate, to split the GOP vote.”

    http://thehill.com/video/campaign/212187-huntsman-gop-debates-wasting-time-party-lacking-in-big-ideas

  35. Does anyone have any information concerning “exactly” how “official” Arpaio’s investigation is? i.e…It has all the appearance of being an official investigation except for the fact that the investigators, apart from their “expertise”, are not on the official payroll as far as I have been able to determine. Will evidence gathered in such a manner be admissible to be forwarded to a federal or state grand jury with recommendation for prosecution?….
    Will Arpaio in fact do this if he determines that a crime has been committed?
    or are we going to end up with more “unverifyable” evidence to add to the pile already being ignored by those agencies obligated to the public trust?

  36. And not in a good way… I may add

  37. William | February 23, 2012 at 1:49 pm |

    JS,

    WOW!!!!!

    I don’t even know how to respond at this point? I gather that your past should and does direct my conscious decisions, but again, you blew me away with your response.

    Wow….
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    NOT sure what you mean but my second response to you is still in moderation so maybe you will get my drift a little better after it appears! :)

  38. Coldwarvet,

    Excellent question(s). From my understanding, although most are from the DOJ, whether retired or not, they are maintained in employment for legal investigations with full powers and authority granted to them by the State and of course the Sheriff.

    This is not the first time in use. His so called “Posse” of legal experts ranging in quite the field. They are also used in State and Federal Court.

  39. Well check this out William if you think I am off my rocker……this is happening world wide and NOT being reported in our media……how much longer the sheeple will allow the mind control by the propaganda machine is yet to be seen….just know this is the TIP of the iceberg…..

    … “Massive Resignations Have Started”
    Posted on February 21, 2012

    http://eclinik.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/massive-resignations-have-started

    GOVERNMENT RESIGNATIONS

    2/6/12
    Romanian prime minister and cabinet resign en masse
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/06/romania-pm-cabinet-resign

    2/20/12 (GERMANY) GERMAN PRESIDENT Christian Ruff resigns (financial corruption charges)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102524/German-President-Christian-Wulff-forced-resign.html

    RESIGNATIONS FROM WORLD BANKS:

    (1) 9/25/11 (SWITZERLAND) Bank chief resigns over £1.5bn rogue trader crisis
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041385/Oswald-Gruebel-resigns-UBS-boss-steps-Kweku-Adoboli-trading-scandal.html

    (2) 10/29/11 (CHINA) Resignations Suggest Shift for China’s Banks
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577003734190522426.html

    (3) 11/01/12 (INDIA) More directors of the Beed district bank resign
    http://www.thenews.coop/article/more-directors-beed-district-bank-resign

    (4) 11/21/11 (JAPAN) UBS’s Japan Investment Banking Chairman Matsui to Resign
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-22/ubs-s-japan-investment-banking-chairman-yasuki-matsui-to-resign.html

    (5) 11/29/11 (Iran) Iran’s Bank Melli CEO Resigns Over Loan Scam
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlcznz_iran-s-bank-melli-ceo-resigns-over-loan-scam_news

    (6) 12/15/11 (UNITED KINGDOM) Senior private banker resigns from Coutts [a very exclusive private bank]
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/15/coutts-fleming-idUSL6E7NF23S20111215

    (7) 12/22/11 (FRANCE) Societe Generale’s Investment Banking Chief Steps Down
    http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/socgens-investment-banking-chief-steps-down/

    (8) 1/05/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Chief executive of Saunderson House [Private Bank] steps down
    http://www.ftadviser.com/2012/01/05/ifa-industry/people/saunderson-house-chief-executive-steps-down-M0vEWlpbSqKA3OCLZDCcGM/article.html

    (9)1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) Switzerland’s central bank chief resigns
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2012/01/201219145612935171.html

    (10) 1/12/12 (United Kingdom) Lloyds’ head of wholesale quits
    http://www.bankingtimes.co.uk/2012/02/01/lloyds-head-of-wholesale-quits/

    (11) 1/19/12 (SPAIN) Spanish bank Santander’s Americas chief quits
    http://www.expatica.com/es/news/spanish-news/spanish-bank-santander-s-americas-chief-quits_202395.html

    (12) 1/20/12 (JAPAN) Normura’s head of wholesale banking quits
    http://www.euromoney.com/Article/2959021/Nomuras-head-of-wholesale-banking-quits.html

    (13) 1/29/12 (NEW ZEALAND) New Zealand Reserve Bank Governor Alan Bollard to Step Down in September
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-29/new-zealand-reserve-bank-governor-alan-bollard-to-step-down-in-september.html

    (14) 1/21/12 (Greece) Banks’ top negotiator quits Greece, but talks go on
    http://www.france24.com/en/20120121-banks-top-negotiator-quits-greece-but-talks-go

    (15) 2/06/12 (INDIA) Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits: http://www.livemint.com/2012/02/06160111/Dhanlaxmi-Bank-CEO-Amitabh-Cha.html

    (16) 2/07/12 (INDIA) Falguni Nayar quits Kotak Mahindra Bank
    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-02-07/news/31031134_1_kotak-mahindra-bank-falguni-nayar-shanti-ekambaram

    (17) 2/07/12 (IRAN) Iran denies central bank resignation rumor (don’t believe until its denied?)
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iran-denies-central-bank-resignation-164154294.html

    (18) 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Four Priests Charged In Vatican Banking Scandal
    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-09/europe/31040509_1_anti-money-laundering-law-vatican-finances-italian-tv

    (19) 2/10/12 (INDIA) Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO resigns
    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tamilnad-mercantile-bank-md-resigns/464259/

    (20) 2/13/12 (KUWAIT) Kuwait Central Bank CEO resigns
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/kuwait-central-bank-chief-resigns-amid-political-tensions/2012/02/13/gIQAcxrOAR_story.html

    (21) 2/14/12 (NICARAQUA) Nicaraqua Central Bank Pres Rosales resigns
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-14/nicaragua-central-bank-head-quits-amid-row.html

    (22) 2/14/12 (UNITED KINGDOM) Social finance pioneer Hayday steps down from Charity Bank
    http://www.socialenterpriselive.com/section/news/people/20120214/social-finance-pioneer-hayday-steps-down-charity-bank

    (23) 2/15/12 World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns
    http://business.time.com/2012/02/15/world-bank-president-zoellick-resigns/

    Did the White House tell the World Bank president that he’s out?
    http://bosco.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/02/15/did_the_white_house_tell_the_world_bank_president_that_hes_out

    (24) 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Slovenia TWO largest Banks CEO’s (2) resign
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-15/slovenia-s-nova-kreditna-banka-maribor-ceo-plos-resigns.html

    (25) 2/15/12 (KENYA) Governor of Kenyan Central Bank to Resign
    http://www.centralbanking.com/central-banking/news/2152753/parliamentary-committee-calls-kenyan-governor-resign

    (26) 2/16/12 (GHANA) Ken Ofori-Atta steps down as Executive Chair of Databank Group
    http://business.thinkghana.com/pages/finance/201202/57429.php

    (27) 2/16/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Saudi Hollandi Banks Managing Director Quits
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZVfFZypqVIcJ:www.a1saudiarabia.com/4489-saudi-hollandi-banks-md-quits/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    (28) 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Anz Bank CFO Australia resigns
    http://www.proformative.com/news/1470243/cfo-anz-bank-resigns-amid-turmoill

    (29) 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Royal Bank of Scotland Austrailan CEO Stephen Williams resigns
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/andrew-chick-to-lead-royal-bank-of-scotlands-australian-arm/story-fnay3vxj-1226272513981

    (30) 2/17/12 (USA) Blankfein out as Goldman Sachs CEO by summer
    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/17/gary-cohn-goldman-sachs/

    (31) 2/18/12 (PAKISTAN) AJK Bank’s executive steps down
    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/18-Feb-2012/ajk-bank-s-executive-steps-down?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online%2F24hours-news+%28The+Nation+%3A+Latest+News%29

    (32) 2/20/12 (RUSSIA) Head of Russian Bank Regulator Steps Down
    http://newsley.com/articles/head-of-russian-bank-regulator-steps-down/206711

    (33) 2/20/12 (SWITZERLAND) Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-20/credit-suisse-s-private-bank-chief-asian-economist-tan-resigns.html

    (34) 2/10/12 (KOREA) Korea Exchange Bank chief steps down
    http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2012/02/10/0503000000AEN20120210005100320.HTML

  40. I haven’t been able to verify this myself but it’s from a commenter at

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/02/sheriff-joe-arpaios-eligibility-report.html :

    From John Albert Dummett Jr, a democratic POTUS candidate who is challenging obama’s eligibility….

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio is supposed to release devastating information concerning Barrack Obama on March 1st. He was supposed to release this information in February but has not yet done so. In early December I met with Arpaio and I know what this information is. I was sworn to secrecy until Arpaio released the information. If what he does release does not match what I was told I will set the record st…raight. The information I know is more than enough reason for Obama not to be President of the United States. I heard the information from the lead investigator of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse. I will not allow for any more lies. I am not your run of the mill everyday politician. I am a patriot first and will give my life to defend my country. Every politician running knows the truth too. So does everyone currently serving in office or sitting on a bench. I know the truth and why there is acover up and only agreed until the end of February to remain silent because I was assured the problem would be taken care of. I will see to it our Constitution and way of life is defended. Everyone who is following me or is a supporter of mine knows about my dedication to this nation. They can vouch for my voracity”.

    Next week will be most interesting….

    Of course that site has a lot of fogbot commenters too.

  41. This is NOT new but important info to circulate because I’m sure most have NEVER even heard of this……

    Vid: Declassified: Massive Israeli manipulation of US media exposed

  42. Starla
    The information Dummet posted is the very reason I begin to question Arpaio. Why does Dummet appear to not be absolutely confident in what Arpaio will be presenting? After all, according to his own statements, he is supposed to already be privy to the information….or is this simply a ruse to gain recognition?
    I suppose that, because we are now becoming used to legal-speak as an everyday language, we hang on the meaning and conjugation of every word and statement. That, in itself, only serves to make me more cynical..

  43. Observer,

    I also reviewed that on the Postandemail site with an interview.

    Trust me when I say – I wish any and all the best when presenting legal challenges against Obama/State/DNC/FOIA, ect. We all want such success in any of them.

    However, I am not a direct proponent of anyone in such challenges to displace integrity for self recognition. I have issues when anyone declares such nonsense.

  44. Remember all.
    Obama et al want us to focus all our energy on the Repub candidates & not him.
    We must counteract the king of diversions.

  45. What the?????

    Where did all the scrolling of links to get to a single comment come from?

    Oh,

    Nevermind…

  46. @ William. Look up Don Nicoloff, Idaho Observer(?). Also go check out HoaxoftheCentury.com or something like that. Lots of stuff, I don’t know the truth of it all. Some of this comes from a deathbed confession of a Nazi SS, or something like that!

  47. Jacqlynsmith,

    One thing I do agree with you. Not your words but mine, is that “Neo-Cons” are not the answer.

    All Conservatives on this Blog that I am aware of, are not Neoconservative, but rather PaleoConservative.

  48. Well, at least Dummet declares himself a Democrat…what does that mean exactly? Does he desire to set himself apart from the DNC platform? Not very likely. Why would Arpaio (an obvious conservative) entrust such information to a professed Democrat? The only reason I could think of offhand would be to send a message to Obama, as he would probably not trust it coming from a conservative. But then, the justice department is all over this and that with it’s own implications…again…why trust a Democrat?….this action was requested by the Tea Party so…who else knows about this? The more I think about this the freakier it becomes…..WTF? None of this adds up.

  49. Saska,

    You are going to have to enlighten a bit more than that. For what reason would I research a background without knowing what the background pertains?

    Please Brief. But be forewarned. I am into Conspiracy Theories.

  50. Sorry,

    Should Read,

    ” I AM NOT INTO CONSPIRACY THEORIES.”

  51. I am listening to Obama right now speaking ‘Live” at the University of Miami…The audience is not responding like they did in 2008, they seem forced…The Obama team probably had to bring “applaud” signs.

  52. coldwarvet | February 23, 2012 at 1:02 pm |

    rminnc
    I agree with your assessment of Arpaio. Even from the beginning, he never really seemed to be “with the program” so to speak, which, given the naturally suspicious nature of law enforcement, I found rather odd. In other words, he didn’t even seem to be aware there was a problem. In fact, I’m appalled at how ignorant our government, as a whole, appears to be concerning these exceptionally massive issues.
    The other side of the coin however, says that he was deliberately trying to appear unbiased…
    **************************
    coldwarvet,
    Don’t forget, Jerome Corsi is involved with the Tea Party that requested Sheriff Joe investigate Obama. Corsi knows more about the pResident than any other reporter out there, and has been to Kenya and back, chasing down info to bust the usurper. I am sure he has fully briefed the posse in what to look for when it comes to IDing the usurper. Getting a grand jury to indict Obama shouldn’t be a problem in Arizona. We can only hope for the best for the Constitution’s sake, because without the function of the Constitution, we have an illegal government, lacking a legal President. It’s not enough to say it doesn’t matter.

  53. Oh help us,

    Watching Obama now in his speech…. Lot smarter people than me, The U.S. is only capable of producing 2% of the Oil, (A lie). the way to the future is securing engineers “that will one day figure out” how to use better energy? Until then??? So when the costs of Oil Go’s up, don’t blame me, blame the Oil Companies, they have record profits…. And, you know, I, tell you, I tell, you, you know what, the people, the ah, ah, consumers, are the ones sufferings with the risings prices of oil, and you know what folks, ah, ah, I tell you this, I will do everything in my power, and Americans stand behind this, to you know, help the prices of oil for gas.

    Really?

    And the Cheerleaders on the side jump up and down…

  54. Just for you William……

    Mitt Romney laughs at Ron Paul, makes Romney lose a vote

  55. Coldwarvet,

    Did you get a chance to read the two links I provided for you? I so, you thoughts?

  56. Thanks JacqlnSmith,

    Great Video.

  57. Hockeyfan530…………………..
    Where you are is also where I am. I am NOT holding my breath regarding what Joe Arpiao might have to say. Logic tells me that he IS NOT going to buck the system. But then I HAVE HOPE that he would say something like “to hell with the Bullshi# it is time to tell the truth and I’M going to do it…..let the chips fall where they will.” If he would do that I would suspect that he would end up as Maricopa County’s Sheriff for the REST OF HIS LIFE, ……HELL WE THE PEOPLE might even draft him to run for POTUS the next time around. WE WILL SOON KNOW.

  58. Now,

    Having said that Jacqlysmith. (Which was a great video), let me ask you this.

    Do you not find one ounce of Ron Paul and Mitt Romney “Ganging up” on Soetorum during the Arz. Debates? Both in cohesive agreements, Both in attacks against and Directed Specifically against Soetorum, and a complete opposite of past debates whereby Mitt and Ron Paul were opposite and completely ignored Santorum? Ron Paul and Mitt are complete opposites, yet agreed during this debate when it came to attacking Santorum?

    Not in it for politics and polls?

    Not hardly…

    I agree, Ron Paul is a Great Representative of the Libertarian Party, he is a Libertarian. He ran on such party. Question: Why doesn’t Ron Paul run on the Libertarian Party Ticket?

  59. William…………………
    Here is something that might clarify why the oil companies behave like they do………all you have to do is examine the political faith of the oil company CEOs,and/or senior executives. I have found that 99% of the CEOs,and their buddies are “LIBERAL SYMPATHISERS”. They follow the “yellow Brick Road” and when they arrive at the wizard’s castle they get in line and ask the wizard what to do next………or more correctly the (self appointed) Messiah.

  60. William…………….
    But when we compare Uncle Jimmie to Soetoro, Jimmie was the A$$ KISSER of the oil company execs,and they just laughed at his stupidity, and spit on him every chance that they had. Jimmies policies were so screwed up you noticed i’m sure what gasoline prices done during Uncle Jimmie’s administration. Billy Carter was even a bigger nincompoop than Jimmie……..if that is possible. I would guess stupidity does run in FAMILIES.

  61. A quote from the below video…..the comment is RIGHT ON…..

    “Ron Paul has shone a light on the progressivism, political correctness and outright cultural Marxism and international Zionism among republicans and ‘NEOconservatives’ like Rush, Hannity, Levin, Ingraham or O’Reilly. None of these people respect the constitution, they are all for bankrupting America through wars and all support big government.”

    Rush Limbaugh ADMITS He’s a “Water Carrier for the Republican Party”

  62. Bob Strauss
    Hi Bob,
    Yes I’m aware of Corsi as I’ve been on this thing from the start (07) and all the others involved in the early days of the court challenges. I even lend a great amount of credence to the evidence Orly has gathered. I must admit to this being an untried venue, and probably one that should have been followed from the start (as opposed to going directly to the courts)…kind of a chain of command sort of thing.. ?.( but I realize also time was of the essence)
    I’m sure there was a ton of information available, but It seemed as if Arpaio was determined to gather his own (which would have been proper under the cicumstances)) as opposed to proving existing perported facts and theories or having any appearance of bias.
    All this, of course, is pure speculation on my part and, like so many others, I guess I’m cynically preparing myself for the bad news, but optomistically hoping for the good news.
    At the end of the day however, I’m concered about whether or not the evidence will be actionable and, if it is, will it be acted upon. Likewise, it will not be enough, in my opinion, should Obama lose a court challenge, but the followthrough with criminal prosecution and the de-certifying of all his decrees and executive actions. I shudder to think of the implications should it be discovered he was never a citizen at all. What about the complicity in that fraud at the top of the DNC? (which is where our focus should be)…What about the complicity of the RNC ?…we know they know…

  63. @William, just something to keep in the back of your head when the TRUTH prevails. So go there, not hard to find the sites. There’s all sorts of weird things going on here, and you know it!! Dummet is a long-time Republican. I live near him but do not know him personally. He might be running as a Democrat so he can challenge Obama legally, that is a possible viable strategy. I think that is why Cody Robert Judy is running as a Democrat, I believe.

  64. William
    I haven’t had time to read them in depth, but what I did read is very revealing as to how complex some legislation can be. Excellent articles by the way, and an excellent source of information concerning the NBC issue, as well as citizenship in general.
    Thanks

  65. Saska
    Revealing info on Dummet…makes sense. It at least makes more sense when associating him with Arpaio.

  66. Bob Strauss……………ref 2:51 PM….
    Maybe it is a little of both. But while Corsi might be the most knowledgeable person on Earth as it relates to Soetoro, you NEVER REALLY KNOW what the current is in the HIDDEN stream. I personally would like to see a hell of a lot more of the EX DOH employee on the internet,or on the news. Yet there is NOTHING further from him. Do you suppose that he now has a very comfortable little pile of taxpayer’s money to play in.

  67. William | February 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm |

    Now,

    Having said that Jacqlysmith. (Which was a great video), let me ask you this.

    Do you not find one ounce of Ron Paul and Mitt Romney “Ganging up” on Soetorum during the Arz. Debates? Both in cohesive agreements, Both in attacks against and Directed Specifically against Soetorum, and a complete opposite of past debates whereby Mitt and Ron Paul were opposite and completely ignored Santorum? Ron Paul and Mitt are complete opposites, yet agreed during this debate when it came to attacking Santorum?

    Not in it for politics and polls?

    Not hardly…

    I agree, Ron Paul is a Great Representative of the Libertarian Party, he is a Libertarian. He ran on such party. Question: Why doesn’t Ron Paul run on the Libertarian Party Ticket?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ll start with your last question first…..the reason he has been running as a RINO is because the SYSTEM is gamed…..BROKEN…..he understands what is at stake and he knows the only way to get recognition and ultimately the nomination is by playing the BROKEN SYSTEM GAME…..none of the other parties get to debate…..some can’t even get on all the state ballots….to me our system is MORE than broken….it is FRAUDULENT to say the least….I think if you do any amount of researching and reading about the two party system you will see what I mean…..

    Right now, he needs to expose the anti-big government records of the non-Romneys who presently are the GRINCH and Santorum….. Romney’s big government is already well known. Why waste time on the obvious? Ron has repeatedly made it crystal clear that he will NOT support a nominee who fundamentally disagrees with his anti-war views. That rules out Romney and the others too!

    Ron can win without Romney…….Romney CAN NOT win without Ron Paul.

    Thus if there is any bargaining it will be on Dr. Paul’s terms!

    Even an army CAN NOT stop an idea who’s time has come.

  68. OldSalt
    ….or…..maybe he’s pushing up the daisys……lol

  69. Saska | February 23, 2012 at 3:31 pm |

    @William, just something to keep in the back of your head when the TRUTH prevails. So go there, not hard to find the sites. There’s all sorts of weird things going on here, and you know it!! Dummet is a long-time Republican. I live near him but do not know him personally. He might be running as a Democrat so he can challenge Obama legally, that is a possible viable strategy. I think that is why Cody Robert Judy is running as a Democrat, I believe.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You are exactly right Saska….I am on Cody’s email list and we are friends on facebook. I also was approached by Dummet to support him…we had several email exchanges but for NOW my support goes to the DOC as he knows if you don’t play the BROKEN SYSTEM GAME you can NOT win!

  70. William………………
    Sheriff Joe is no BUMB ASS. It is conceivable that he will simply AGREE with everything that the BIRTHER MOVEMENT has put forward, and then say that I am turning all of my findings over to a grand jury. Then somebody else gets to decide if he/she should convene a grand jury. Even if a grand jury was convened,and they found that they had enough for an inditement, would they DO IT? Also if there was an inditement then where is the court that is going to hear the case? We no longer have a Federal Court system, and the state systems are becoming corrupt fast.

  71. Coldwarvet,

    After you get a chance to read, lets discuss it.

  72. OldSalt,

    I agree. I have never said anything negative about Sheriff Joe. I look forward to his investigative results.

  73. This may help with some who are buying into the propaganda that RP is working with MITTENS……Doug Weade straightens the media whores out….

    2-23-12 Doug Wead on MSNBC

  74. jacqlynsmith | February 23, 2012 at 3:40 pm |

    Ron can win without Romney…….Romney CAN NOT win without Ron Paul.

    Thus if there is any bargaining it will be on Dr. Paul’s terms!

    _+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You do realize that you have contradicted yourself not only in this post, but over the many days and weeks with this statement?

    You are apparently also questioning yourself of such a political strategy? Is Ron Paul in it “All for Nothing”? President, or Nothing?

    You also are aware that Romney is no different (or very little) than Obama. Yet would you support Ron Paul as his assistant? Do you honestly think, that “IF” Mitt even chose Ron Paul as his personal run-around for votes, that Ron Paul would deny such a position as V.P.(unless the V.P. has his say in the background)? Do you honestly think Ron Paul is that providential without opportunity for self positioning? If in fact, Ron Paul Stood behind such convictions as a libertarian, he would in fact stick-too and run off such ticket. But he didn’t did he.

    If you are saying, that one must be corrupt, in order to infiltrate corruption, then we have a problem with those running for office. If one is willing to “Lie” in order to get elected, to expose a “Lie”, then that in itself is a farce.

  75. Standing back here…
    I have tended toward Ron Paul though lately I am convinced he is not serious, but rather has his sights on exerting some influence in a brokered convention. See article below:
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/02/16/ron-pauls-pathway-to-power/#comments
    This does not bother me in the least. Any inroads that fiscal conservatives have are most welcome.

  76. SueQ,

    Not at all. As I have always said, Ron Paul will get a “Hot-Spot” during the Republican National Convention, when he drops out. It’s Planned, it’s in order, and it will happen….

    So, what does that tell us about the GOP in 2012? Personally, I want kick Rove’s butt down the road….

  77. William,
    Me too!

  78. SueQ,

    Now if Mitt announces Ron Paul as his V.P., I will be completely at a loss for strategy words, other than “Desperate as Hell”..

    I am looking forward to the States resolutions of ballot challenges as well as Arz. Sheriff Joe’s report shortly to come. Such information will then depend on several other positions within the States and Federal elected officials for any positive outcome.

    If all is null, and we only have Mitt Romney, regardless of his running mate, look forward to 4 more years of Obama, and possibly 4 to 8 years of Clintons thereafter.

    Its not a far stretch of the Liberal strategic imagination. Either we have Representatives Stand up now, fear not of being “Laughed at” Domestically or internationally- and represent the United States, or go home to another practice.

    Do our founding fathers and those millions of lost lives defending this Country and Constitution a favor, and be brave, least in a pathetic role of a politician in today’s time of “I’m afraid I might be laughed at” syndrome.

    Nor does the “Flip-floppers” stand a chance with attempted repeats, without due explanations. Sorry folks, doesn’t work for me. If this were by private business, and attempted to pass off, wouldn’t work….. this time, next time, ect.. I need much more than that as an “Investor”.

  79. But…..
    Mr. William, did you not say that you are not voting because Mr. Perfect is not running?

  80. SueQ,

    When I say “Do our founding fathers…”

    I do not mean you of course, but our elected representatives.

  81. At the state level,
    Twenty five states, of which Arizona is one, use what is known as an “indictments optional”procedure which allows a prosecutor to use an indictment (for serious crimes) or an information (for minor felonies and misdemeanor crimes) to charge any offense.
    At the federal level,due to the complexity of the cases, prosecutors usually conduct their own investigations merely using the grand jury as a vehicle to initiate the process.
    Based on the forgoing, it would appear that regardless of what Arpaio reveals, and depending on whether the case would be at either the state or federal level, there will still be a long way to go.

  82. SueQ,

    No, I never said I would not vote “If there was no one Perfect”…

    Never said that…

    You are more than welcome to bring all my comments forward…

    t.

  83. Sorry William, I think I lost you. I think I was posting at the very same time you were and didn’t have the benefit of reading what you said.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    “When I say “Do our founding fathers…”

    I do not mean you of course, but our elected representatives.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I understand you do not mean me. :)

  84. SueQ,

    I did say, and I stand by my comments and convictions. I will not vote for a coward, least it makes me a coward as well, and I am no coward.

    If a politician cannot and refuses to abide known exposures of Obama, simply at a jepordy of their personal career, then I am not voting for them.

    Does this paradigm have a further reach? You betcha.

  85. Other than that,

    How was you day SueQ? (smile)

    a change of subject.

  86. William, I understand. You are no coward.

    How do you feel about an old grandma such as me who simply wants her grandchildren to have some semblance of a life that I have had.

    Will I stay home? No way. I suppose that makes me a coward. Oh well.

  87. William
    Come now William, we will certainly forgive you for feeling, “compelled for political purposes,” to vote for someone. That the RNC gave us virtually no one to vote for is not our fault, and voting for someone solely for the purpose of providing breathing room till they can be replaced would most certainly not imply that you share ANY of their personal traits.
    I am convinced that this country, as we have known it, will probably not survive another 4 years of Obama, but it will likely survive any one of the 4 clowns that have been thrust upon us. A couple of them might even change it for the better. (not the best)

  88. I guess the same way as a grandfather such as me?

    I don’t know SueQ. I guess I have different interpretations than others. I can only ascertain personally and historically my analysis. If anyone believes that voting with an “R” next to their name, somehow integrates U.S. Economics, Defense and financial benefits for U.S. Citizens, then so be it.

    I Don’t see it. But maybe it’s just me.

  89. Grandpa William,
    What other choice do we have besides a “D” next to his (Obama’s) name or nothing at all.

    I don’t see it. But maybe it’s just me.

    Anyway, I’m signing off. I’m tired William. Take good care.

  90. coldwarvet | February 23, 2012 at 7:54 pm |

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    First and foremost, I do not need nor require your pandering of sympathy for my political views.

    Trust me…

  91. Not pandering …reasoning…
    Others (many) read this blog. You were merely conveniently positioned to make a point…sorry if I put you off old boy.

  92. SueQ,,

    Take Care, God Bless,

    Signing off myself.

  93. Coldwarvet,

    I’ll bite,

    If this Country cannot survive another 4 years of Obama, but cannot survive the 4 clowns presented, do you propose an alternative solution?

    No offense taken.

  94. William
    I believe you misread what I wrote. I stated that the country WILL likely survive any of the four “clowns”…
    Apart from that, I see no real viable alterantives…just sayin’

  95. …There are alternatives, just none at present…

  96. Coldwarvet

    Have you the opportunity to review the links I provided to you? Not attempting to be a nuisance, but rather interested on your analysis and conclusions. I am confident your construing and determining the underlying rules of interpretive construction of historic clauses of NBC, are well worth your opinion and comments. Sincerely.

    Specifically, I look forward to your interpretations of BlackStone and Vattle.

    Short, but simple question(s).

  97. I agree,

    A simple misunderstanding. I understand that Coldwarvet. But lets get to the heart of the issue.

  98. Coldwarvet,

    What I mean by short and simple Q&A, is that you write better quarterly business reports and can certainly contribute.

    Any director can..

  99. jacqlynsmith | February 23, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
    ……I’m sure most here don’t even know that BUSH sr. is NOT a natural born citizen either…..that’s right…..we have been infiltrated by the NAZI regime a long time ago……Sr. is but ONE of them!!! Do your research and you will soon see what I am talking about!
    ======================================================
    js,
    Please reveal your source that George Herbert Walker Bush is NOT a natural born citizen and is a Nazi.

    According to the 1930 Federal Census, Walker is 5 years old and was born in Massachusetts. His father’s birthplace is Ohio and mother’s birthplace is Maine. That makes him a natural born citizen. I can email you a copy of the original document if you’d like.

    Walker Bush
    Birthplace: Massachusetts
    Race: White
    Home in 1930: Greenwich, Fairfield, Connecticut
    Marital Status: Single
    Relation to Head of House: Son
    Father’s Name: Prescott S Bush
    Father’s Birthplace: Ohio
    Mother’s name: Dorothy Bush
    Mother’s Birthplace: Maine
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Prescott S Bush 34
    Dorothy Bush 28
    Prescott S Bush 7
    Walker Bush 5
    Nancy Bush 4 8/12

  100. Dear Jonah (and all that have discussed this):

    Please take it up with the HDOH, not me. I asked them for the seal Jonah says exists, they say they don’t have it.

    That is not my fault and I am not misinterpreting anything. I provided them the Factcheck.org photos. They reviewed them and say they don’t have that seal. Sorry. It’s nothing personal.

    They have two embossed seals…but they do not have the seal in the factcheck.org org photos. Again, take it up with them. That isn’t my fault. Are you suggesting they disclosed the seal and I have withheld it or something? Because that did not happen and I am withholding NOTHING.

    I invite you all to request the debossed seal yourselves. Send the HDOH the factcheck.org photos and ask them yourselves.

    (I mean it’s one thing to just dismiss what I say cause I said it. It’s another to just email your own request.

    Geez. You don’t have to take my word for it!)

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