Obama energy policy pay to play, Reward supporters, Punish taxpayers, Commerce Department imposes new import fees on solar panels made in China

Obama energy policy pay to play, Reward supporters, Punish taxpayers, Commerce Department imposes new import fees on solar panels made in China

“If some politicians have their way, there won’t be any more public investments in solar energy,” …Barack Obama

“Obama’s energy policy is pay to play”…Citizen Wells

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth’s centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O’Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote:

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″

Wasn’t the argument that we needed to become more energy independent, not reward Obama’s supporters?

Let’s face it. At this point in time, the Chinese are going to make solar cells and panels at a lower cost than we are, with or without tariffs.

A good friend of mine approached me several months ago and asked if I was concerned about the Chinese subsidizing their solar cell production. I looked and him and exclaimed. Absolutely not! Let the Chinese bring the cost down, which they have. That will lower the cost here and put more people to work installing them, fuel ancillary industries and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

Instead, Obama and his administration have rewarded his supporters such as Solyndra at the cost of taxpayer dollars. Then the American manufacturers fail and they along with Obama blame the Chinese.

It’s the Chinese stupid. This should have been factored in to manufacturing decisons and energy policies. The Chinese are a known factor. They didn’t just show up yesterday.

A smart, taxpayer friendly solution would be to work with the Chinese. If they can make the solar cells (and they can) cheaper, let them. Let them lower the price at their expense and learn from their technology like the Japanese did with us. At some point in time it may make sense for the US to manufacture solar cells. Regardless, in a reality based decision platform, “let’s make lemonade out of lemons.”

From The LA Times March 20, 2012.

“U.S. sets new tariffs on China solar panels”

“The U.S. Commerce Department has imposed new import fees on solar panels made in China, finding that the Chinese government is improperly giving subsidies to manufacturers of the panels there.

The Commerce Department said Tuesday it has found on a preliminary basis that Chinese solar panel makers have received government subsidies of 2.9 percent to 4.73 percent. Therefore the department said tariffs in the same proportions will be charged on Chinese panels imported into the U.S., depending on which company makes them.

The tariff amounts are considered small, but the decision could ratchet up trade tensions between the U.S. and China. Several U.S. solar panel makers had asked the government to impose steep tariffs on Chinese imports. They are struggling against stiff competition from China as well as weakening demand in Europe and other key markets, just as President Barack Obama is working to promote renewable energy.

“Today’s announcement affirms what U.S. manufacturers have long known: Chinese manufacturers have received unfair … subsidies,” Steve Ostrenga, CEO of Helios Solar Works in Milwaukee, Wis., said in a statement. The company is a member of a group called the Coalition for American Solar Manufacturing.

On the other side, some U.S. companies argue that low-priced Chinese imports have helped consumers and promote rapid growth of the industry.”

“The U.S. and China are two of the world’s biggest markets for solar, wind and other renewable energy technology. Both governments are promoting their own suppliers in hopes of generating higher-paid technology jobs.

The U.S. manufacturers’ complaints have been amplified by the controversy surrounding Solyndra Inc. — a California-based solar panel maker that filed for bankruptcy protection after winning a $500 million federal loan from the Obama administration.

Solyndra’s failure embarrassed the administration and prompted a lengthy review by congressional Republicans who are critical of Obama’s green energy policies. Solyndra has cited Chinese competition as a key reason for its failure.

U.S. energy officials say China spent more than $30 billion last year to subsidize its solar industry. Obama said in November that China has “questionable competitive practices” in clean energy and that his administration has fought “these kinds of dumping activities.” The administration will act to enforce trade laws where appropriate, Obama said.”

Read more:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-solar-20120320,0,2891514.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fbusiness+(L.A.+Times+-+Business)

 

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24 responses to “Obama energy policy pay to play, Reward supporters, Punish taxpayers, Commerce Department imposes new import fees on solar panels made in China

  1. jacqlynsmith

    If you don’t see their name here….give your REP a call…..pass this on please…..

    Updated on March 20, 2012

    On record so far at http://www.thomas.gov

    Title: To require a full audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks by the Comptroller General of the United States before the end of 2012, and for other purposes.

    Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 1/26/2011)
    Cosponsors: (216)
    Latest Major Action: 2/8/2011 Referred to House subcommittee.
    Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Government Organization, Efficiency, and Financial Management .

    Congressional Switchboard Number: (202) 224-3121

    Co-Sponsors (216)

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    TODAY is Audit the Fed Day! Please Call Your Rep. ASAP – 4 Reps until House MAJORITY

  2. Not to change the subject, but for whatever reason, American Thinker blog cannot be accessed at this present moment. Maybe it is being blocked for something it is reporting? Who knows, these days?

  3. To check on site:
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    Is ” — ” down for everyone or just me?

    http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

  4. Nationwide Rally for Religious Freedom on Friday at Noon

    The Cardinal Newman Society has vigorously opposed the “HHS Mandate,” which violates the religious freedom of Catholic colleges and Catholics everywhere!

    Now, we urge your participation in the Nationwide Rally for Religious Freedom this FRIDAY at NOON, local time, at sites across the country.

    Please click here http://standupforreligiousfreedom.com/ to check locations and plan to join the rally!

    Thousands of Americans of all faiths will be participating in these peaceful, family-friendly, non-partisan rallies to oppose the federal mandate requiring free insurance coverage for sterilization, abortifacients and contraception.

    Even Catholic colleges, schools, hospitals, religious communities and other apostolates may be forced to comply. And this affects not only employee plans, but college plans serving Catholic students!

    For background on The Cardinal Newman Society’s work on religious liberty, see our religious freedom page here.

  5. Even if the media doesn’t show up I hope hundreds of Patriots will be there with their recording devices to later blast Youtube and challenge their local media affiliates with the proof. Prior to this press conference we should challenge Fox, Drudge, any who have weakly mentioned this investigation, that we expect full coverage of such an historical event for the country…and should be such for “reputable” news organizations as well.

    Reminder:

    http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2012/120321/frontpage-media.html

    Media blackout continues on Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation

    ‘This will be an historic event in Arizona. Please come and be a part of history. The public is invited to attend. Come early. Learn the truth.’
    Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio (l) and Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo will hold a press conference on Saturday, March 31, at 1 p.m. at the Church on the Green to present their findings and updates regarding Obama’s fraudulent Selective Service System registration form and Certificate of Live Birth.

    snip…..

    Since Arpaio’s investigation began at the behest of a petition signed by 250 Surprise Tea Partiers last year, the Surprise and Sun City West Tea Parties have teamed up to host a public press conference at 1 p.m. on Saturday, March 31, at the Church on the Green, 19051 R.H. Johnson Blvd., Sun City West, where Arpaio and Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo will present their preliminary findings and updates.

    This is the information the national media refuses to report, which Zullo learned during the investigation was because the media had been threatened with FTC investigations and commentators were threatened with their jobs if they dared report on the Cold Case Posse’s findings of forgery and fraud associated with Obama’s documents.

    Zullo stated the threats even caused some to quit their positions “over safety concerns for their families.”

    A petition will be circulated during the event requesting the Arizona State Legislature, in conjunction with Secretary of State Ken Bennett, take action requiring the Democratic National Committee to provide documentation satisfactory to Arpaio and the Cold Case Posse that validates Obama’s true identity and eligibility before he can be placed on the 2012 ballot in Arizona.

    The Tea Parties hosting the event stated, “This will be an historic event in Arizona. Please come and be a part of history. The public is invited to attend. Come early. Learn the truth.”

  6. jacqlynsmith

    This needs to go viral folks……wake up the masses…you will not hear this in the LAME STREAM MEDIA……

    MAKE THIS VIRAL! Freedom Reigns-Mass Arrests for the cabal

  7. Observer – thanks so much for that list of locations.

    I am sad that I won’t be able to get to Washington D.C. this weekend to join the anti obamacare rally. But I will definitely try to attend the nearest religious freedom rally.

  8. A Crazy Old Coot

    OT

    I just got this from a friend and I thought it worth passing on, even with the few bad words!

    Alan Simpson, retired Senator from Wyoming, Co-Chair of Obama’s deficit commission, calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared “Social Security” to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats.

    Here’s a response in a letter from PATTY MYERS in Montana … I think she is a little ticked off! She also Tells it like it is!
    “Hey Alan, let’s get a few things straight…
    1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS.
    2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63).
    3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other
    Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud..
    4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission are proposing to move the goalposts -YET AGAIN.
    5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills.
    6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.
    To add insult to injury, you label us “greedy” for calling “bullshit” on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU:
    1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?
    2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career,
    and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?
    3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?
    4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

    It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators
    called Congress who are the “greedy” ones. It is you and your fellow nutcases who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers. And for what? Votes. That’s right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers.You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.
    And you can take that to the bank, you miserable SOB.
    If you like the way things are in America delete this. If you agree with what a fellow Montana citizen Patty Myers says, PASS IT ON!!!!

  9. A Crazy Old Coot

    I must have done a no no. I’m in moderation.

  10. Whistleblower

    Another good read at RBO2 !!!
    #VetThePrez : What did FBI ‘mole’ John Thomas know and when did he know it? Should Obama worry?

    http://rbo2.com/2012/03/22/vettheprez-what-did-fbi-mole-john-thomas-know-and-when-did-he-know-it-should-obama-worry/

  11. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2862406/posts

    Marine Faces Dismissal For Anti-Obama Facebook Posts
    Fox News ^ | March 22, 2012

    Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:40:06 PM by Fennie

    A Marine sergeant who started a Facebook group that is openly critical of President Barack Obama and posted comments saying he will not follow the unlawful orders of the commander in chief is facing possible dismissal from the Corps.

    (Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com …

  12. A Crazy Old Coot

    I’ve been wondering about something. In 2008 the U.S. Senate declared that Sen. McCain was a Natural Born Citizen and eligible to be President “because” he had two American citizen parents. Why was nothing said about Sen. Obama only having one American citzen parent? Sen. Obama even signed off on the resolution. I’m at a loss to understand the difference between the requirements for McCain (who still wasn’t eligible since he was born out of the country) and obama. Can anyone explain this to me since I am just a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy?

  13. citizenwells

    Zach,
    I heard about this Marine earlier.
    God bless him.

  14. CNN is stoking racial tensions again. They are race baiting. One black. teenager is killed by a white man and they are going crazy. This is tragic, but what about all the people raped and killed by gangs this week and last? What about the matter of a usurper in the White House which should be making international headlines? What about that? What journalists consider news these days is amazing.

  15. Correction Tina…..

    One black man is killed by a HISPANIC man….not a white man…check it out.

  16. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    AND CW, if what you reported in this section is not enough – I am sitting here watching c-span3 holding a hearing from yesterday by the House Homeland Security Committee chaired by Congressman King (R,NY) regarding an Iran and Hezbollah threat assessment. The 4 talking head witnesses are going blahblahblah assuring us all we are safe.
    MEANWHILE a Usurping Usurper from USURPERVILLE has snuck into our country and taken over everything that once made this country great.
    GOD,COUNTRY,HONOR,TRUTH (and last but not least) THE CONSTITUTION

    AND THEY ALL KNOW IT!!

  17. coot, it’s called a diversion. McCain was a useful tool to help focus the NBC argument away from citizen parentage.

  18. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    ksdb -

    A Theory on why we have been on this 4 year eligibility question.

    A – The Republicans were questionable on Obama’s NBC.

    B – The Democrats were sure that McCain did not meet the legal qualifications for NBC because he was born off the Navy Base.

    C – Both parties decided to pass Senate Resolution (SR 511) making McCain legal NBC.

    D – They secretly agreed not to question either candidate’s qualifications after that.

    “Another fine mess you have gotten us into, Stanley” – And I don’t mean “Stanley” of Laurel & Hardy!

  19. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – If you check back the Clintons were the first to question Obama’s eligibility!!

  20. “Tina
    CNN is stoking racial tensions again. They are race baiting. One black. teenager is killed by a white man and they are going crazy.”

    Tina,
    I live in Florida. The shooter was declared by police as white, the family has claimed he is LATINO. Thus, the incident in question did not involve any ‘White’ people. IMHO, it’s a tragic and unfair that this teenagers life was taken. That is bad enough, but for racists to try to ‘cash in’ on this is horrible and disgusting.

    Pete

  21. A Crazy Old Coot

    Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | March 22, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    ///////////////////////////
    I remember billery saying that she had something on obama. But, she never released it.

  22. Thanks for the clarifications regarding the tragic shooting in Florida. Either way CNN should be renamed crazy news network.

  23. Obama’s Agents False Spin on INS and Citizenship – Native born and Natural Born Have Different Status and Definitions
    As their lies continue to be exposed Obama’s agents are getting desperate to prove their messiah is eligible to be President. Recently they have begun spreading the lie that Native Born and Natural Born are the same thing. The INS documents below prove otherwise.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/03/obamas-agents-false-spin-on-ins-and.html

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