Obama John Glennon both damaged IL TRS, Teachers Retirement System, Glennon on TRS board, Glencoe Capri Capital, Obama doing to US what he did to Illinois

Obama John Glennon both damaged IL TRS, Teachers Retirement System, Glennon on TRS board, Glencoe Capri Capital, Obama doing to US what he did to Illinois

“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

“Why did Patrick Fitzgerald and the US Justice Department wait until December 2008 to arrest Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

“I believe I’m more pristine on Rezko than him.”…Rod Blagojevich

Obama, Blagojevich and their cronies used the citizens of Illinois, Teachers Retirement System, hospitals and taxpayer dollars for their own benefit.

John Glennon, one of the lesser known and underreported corruption buddies was recently given a slap on the wrist.

From the Chicago Tribune July 21, 2005.
“A one-time top adviser to former Gov. George Ryan was charged Wednesday with aiding and abetting an alleged fraud on a suburban Chicago medical school by acting as a middleman in a kickback scheme.

John Glennon, an influential Republican real estate consultant, helped conceal kickbacks totaling $700,000 paid by the owner of a construction firm, authorities charged. The construction firm won an $18 million contract to build an addition at the school.

The indictment alleged that Stuart Levine, then on the board of the Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine & Science in North Chicago and a friend of Glennon’s, extorted the kickbacks in 2001 as the price to win the construction contract.

To conceal the fraud, Jacob Kiferbaum, the construction firm owner, used a sham marketing contract to steer the kickbacks to Glennon’s consulting company, North American Capital Opportunities, until early 2004, the charges alleged.

Levine, a wealthy Republican insider, and Kiferbaum, who was also on the medical school’s board, were initially indicted in May for that fraud and other schemes. Glennon was added Thursday to the indictment. He was charged with three counts of aiding and abetting Levine in the one scheme.”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-07-21/news/0507210141_1_indictment-john-glennon-scheme

From Citizen Wells March 26, 2012.

“John Glennon, a former top aide to imprisoned former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, leaves the Dirksen Federal Building after his sentencing was continued on Wednesday, March 21, 2012. Glennon pleaded guilty and cooperated with authorities about his role in helping cover up kickbacks involving Stuart Levine under Blagojevich.

A federal judge in Chicago said Wednesday he has no intention of sending businessman John Glennon, a lesser-known figure caught up in the corruption scandal involving former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, to prison.

U.S. District Judge John Grady told Glennon he would delay his sentencing until April 9 and that he plans to sentence him then to probation and community service.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/obama-corruption-pals-in-news-john-glennon-gets-no-time-john-harris-and-alonzo-monk-sentenced-this-week-rep-aaron-schock-il-obama-ties-to-chicago-machine/

Connecting the dots.

What do Obama and John Glennon have in common aside from associations with Stuart Levine and other Chicago corruption figures?

Involvement with the IL TRS, Teachers Retirement System.

What else do they have in common?

They were both involved with the TRS in 2002 and 2003.

What is significant about these years?

2003: “Of the five funds, the one in the sorriest shape is the Illinois Teacher Retirement System, which provides the pensions for suburban and downstate teachers. Its ratio of assets to liabilities stood at a mere 52 percent last year, so poor that it was considered among the five worst-funded plans in the country.”

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/March-2011/Illinois-Teacher-Pensions-Always-in-Distress-Mode/

From the LA Times April 7, 2008.

In 2002, the year after Obama made the pitch, the Illinois Teacher Retirement System reported an 18% increase in assets managed by minority-owned firms. Ariel’s share grew to $442 million by 2005.

In 2006, after the federal investigation became public, the teacher pension board severed its relationship with Ariel, concluding that Ariel’s investment returns were insufficient.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamarezko.html

From the Common Conservative October 1, 2008.

“On Feb. 10, 2007, Senator Barack Obama launched his bid for the White House in Springfield, setting himself on a course that has become one for the history books. But Obama might not have made it even to the Old State Capitol Building that frigid day if not for a private meeting he had with friends and advisers in late 2002 as he was mulling a run for the U.S. Senate. In a South Side high-rise overlooking the lake, the junior state senator vetted his lofty political ambitions with a group of Chicago’s African American business elite that included Frank M. Clark Jr., Valerie B. Jarrett, Quintin E. Primo III, James Reynolds Jr., and John W. Rogers Jr.”
http://thecommonconservative.com/?p=161

From Citizen News June 15, 2010.
“Today, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, testimony in the Rod Blagojevich trial continues. Joseph Aramanda, with ties to Blagojevich, Rezko and Obama is expected to testify soon.”

“Rezko’s partner in the Rezmar development company, Daniel Mahru, is referred to as “Individual Z” in the indictment, and according to court filings, Rezko told Mahru that “$500 million” of TRS money was earmarked for their company. Mahru is reportedly cooperating with federal investigators.”

“In addition to lining their own pockets, the money gained through the scheme was funneled to the campaigns of Blagojevich and Obama. Prosecutors have identified two $10,000 payments that were made to Obama’s US Senate campaign through straw donors Joseph Aramanda and Elie Maloof, which originated from a kickback paid by investment firm, Glencoe Capital, to secure approval for a $50 million deal.
Aramanda and Maloof also each gave Obama $1,000 for his failed run for Congress in 2000. Once Obama became a US Senator, Aramanda’s son was granted a coveted intern position in Obama’s Senate office in Washington during the summer of 2005, based on a request which the Obama’s camp has admitted came from Rezko.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/blagojevich-trial-joseph-aramanda-testifies-soon-aramanda-linked-to-blagojevich-rezko-obama-open-thread-june-15-2010/

Perhaps you have not seen this.

“Glencoe Capital Partners

On a motion by Cynthia O’Neill, seconded by Stuart Levine, it was resolved:

To invest $25 million in Glencoe Capital Partners III, L.P. and invest up to $25 million to Glencoe Capital Institutional Partners III, L.P., subject to the satisfactory completion of contract and fee negotiations. Source of funds will be the TRS Cash Flow account.
Minutes – Board Meeting

August 15, 2003
Page 6

Roll call resulted in affirmative voice votes from Trustees Bruner, Cleveland, Glennon, Klickna, Leggett, Levine, O’Neill, Phalen, and Schmidt. Motion CARRIED.”

For more information about Obama’s impact on the TRS:

“In 2000, after losing a Congressional race, Barack Obama was looking to revive his political fortunes. And he soon found a springboard — a group of black entrepreneurs also trying to break out.

Month after month, Mr. Obama, then an Illinois state senator, showed up at the Chicago group’s meetings, listening to members’ concerns about the difficulties they faced in getting government and corporate business, and asking them what he could do to help.

And help them he did. Members of the group, the Alliance of Business Leaders and Entrepreneurs, say Mr. Obama checked into their problems and helped start a drive that enabled minority investment executives to win millions of dollars in business from the state’s giant pension funds.”

“Mr. Obama also recently pointed to his work on the Illinois pension issue as a model for what he would do as president to promote minority-owned companies.”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/obama-role-in-corrupting-il-teacher-retirement-system-pensions-cellini-trial-2007-ny-times-article-where-is-tony-rezko-where-is-house-judiciary-committee/

 

183 responses to “Obama John Glennon both damaged IL TRS, Teachers Retirement System, Glennon on TRS board, Glencoe Capri Capital, Obama doing to US what he did to Illinois

  1. There are no clean successful politicians from Chicago. The media has completely and utterly failed to properly vet a presidential candidate from Chicago. Why?

    Pete

  2. citizenwells

    The end justifies the means.

  3. Good Morning All. Now that SCOTUS might overturn Obamacare, Republicans must show (NOW) that they have a plan. Here are just a few ideas off top of my head. I would suggest people contact their Representatives to let them know that the political battle needs to begin today for Republicans.

    Ideas:
    · A low cost standardized $1,000 – 5,000 deductible, catastrophic coverage should be made available. (Agreed to by major Insurance Companies, given they were almost put out of business they might be eager to cooperate.) Negotiating for services by insured would help put downward pressure on fees for office visits.
    · Standardized insurance forms (companies should help given they were almost made extinct) to lower medical office costs.
    · A reasonable medical fund for each person paying into social security should be set up. The amount (completely owned by citizen) to be collected by Social Security could only be used for any medical/dental expense. It would be become taxable income when/as the owner uses it. Unused amounts would pass as a medical account to wife/partner/kids when death. This would allow individuals to negotiate with providers and should minimize going to doctor for minor issues. To improve trust and impact local communities, the accounts should be managed by local banks. In addition to mandatory funding, funding these accounts for lower income families could also be funded creatively (see below.) Local fundraisers could directly aid local communities.
    · Barter for medical services should not be a taxable event. It would encourage providers to accept services for Doctor’s fees. House cleaning, lawn mowing, car washing, baby-sitting, etc. One needs to worry about appearance of indentured servants. This was common when I was a kid.
    · Tort reform is a must.
    · Allow insurance companies to sell insurance across state lines.
    · Put in place protections to help doctors resist practicing defensive medicine (against tort claims).
    · Have a high deductible, nationwide medical malpractice insurance plan for doctors, etc (agreed to by major providers).
    · Focus on allowing capable family members to do tasks (waiver form necessary) that a nurse would normally do (changing bandages, sending digital photos of condition to doctor/nurse from home, etc.).
    · Have a .gov Internet site that provides medical information, how to guide for people that might minimize trips to emergency room. Similar to book “Where There’s No Doctor”
    · Have a national lottery to subsidize health insurance costs, emergency room costs, free clinics, etc. Federal government is not trusted so proceeds would need to held/managed in private sector.
    · If the government could be trusted, there could be a check box on tax form to allow taxpayers to add amounts to go towards healthcare.
    · Urge all insurance providers to set up a standardized nationwide high-risk pool. Maybe national lottery idea or check box on tax forms could be used to get premiums down to normal risk rates. Voluntary encouragement for Americans to aid down on luck Americans.
    · Allow doctors, dentists, hospitals, providers, insurance companies, etc. to deduct from taxes the fair value of services provided to low-income clients.
    · Have a lower tax bracket for insurance companies and providers who give a certain percentage of care to low-income folks.
    · Have more health screenings at schools for students and families. Give providers incentives as stated above.
    · Secure the border.

    Please acknowledge the People’s distrust of government in your ‘Whereas’ clauses.

  4. citizenwells

    Zach,
    I nominate you for congress.

  5. Like a little determined bulldog with lockjaw, Sheriff Joe is digging his heels in and won’t let go. He received his response from the Selective Service and it read:

    “This Agency has no evidence President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic,” wrote Richard S. Flahavan, associate director of public & intergovernmental affairs

    Apparently refusing to take seriously Sheriff Joe’s investigation, Flahavan referred the sheriff to the FBI.

    “However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue,” Flahavan said.

    WHAT ABOUT A STATE CRIME?
    FORGERY IS ALSO A STATE CRIME THE LAST TIME I CHECKED.

    In response, Sheriff Arpaio yesterday sent a SECOND letter to the Selective Service, requesting clarification.

    “If your office has the original, authentic Selective Service registration form for Barack Obama from July 29, 1980, please indicate whether or not you are in possession of this document,” the sheriff wrote.

    “If the document is in your possession, please make it available for inspection by my Sheriff’s Office investigators. We will travel to your facility to analyze it.”

    Sheriff Joe gave 10 days for them to respond.

    Folks this is getting ready to turn into a full blown criminal investigation, I can smell it in the wind. Sheriff Joe hinted at that possibility yesterday when he said that he could “now use the regular paid deputies if necessary”……..

    That means he’s hot on the trail of something and Mr Obama should start looking for a rock to hide under….or warm up the engines on AF One for a fast get away.

    President, or no president, Joe wants answers to his charges of fraud and forgery….and he intends to get them “come hell or high water”!

    Sheriff Joe isn’t called AMERICA’S SHERIFF without reason. He can leap tall buildings in one leap, catch speeding bullets in his teeth, and has x-ray eyes. He is not a man to tarry with.

    Joe, America loves you,…. and my dog Fella loves you too !

  6. The main stream media is addressing the man Zimmerman, who is a suspect in the Matrin shooting as a “white Hispanic”.

    Can we now address the president as a “white Afro-American”?

  7. It has been 4 years, will this nightmare ever end? We need to pray we elect someone that will go after all the crooks in govt. thus far, it is not looking promising, as they all ignore the facts. I would like to see Newt/Sarah they seem to be the most patriotic of them all. We can not go by what the media states, after much investigating their past, they seem to be our only hope. Stay safe, God Bless.

  8. Zackjonesishome…..thanks

    Real talent sometimes comes in a different package…your posted video proves that.

    A great voice. A worldly asset.

  9. Margieu………………………
    This is of course my own personal view,but I once again say that while Newt might have “baggage” as so many people choose to call it,I also see the ONLY CANDIDATE having the LEVEL OF CHARACTER necessary to to hold the office of POTUS. The others are much like children at recess time. I do not see any of the others as POTUS material. At least Gingrich has been there,and done it. He knows the ropes so to speak. But on the other hand I even have my doubts as to Newt’s sincerity. Again, this is only my own opinion. No offense meant to anyone.

  10. ……….that is to say “I see Gingrich as the only candidate”possessing the necessary STRENGTH OF CHARACTER”………….We will see soon enough!

  11. Zach @ 11:05 AM,

    Thank you for that link, Zach; I just had a Susan Boyle moment!

    Don’t know if you’ve seen this one; it’s along the same lines. Sungbong’s deep faith got him through his formerly horrible life:

  12. citizenwells | March 29, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    Zach,
    I nominate you for congress.
    ****************************
    CW, you beat me to it! :)

    Zach, you certainly have some mighty good ideas there about health care, and I agree that Repubs should begin NOW for their own presentations.
    It seems that we are always a dollar short and a day late. While we are asleep at the switch……

  13. Diana Cotter…………………
    Keep it up young lady……….you are doing a very fine job! Some of which you are reporting is information that many of us already SUSPECT is the truth…….but for the most part you have done a lot to CONFIRM IT as the truth. I thank you from my very soul. I personally believe that the magnitude of the electoral fraud goes far beyond the wildest imagination. I have read recently that even Sheriff Arpiao is getting the RUN AROUND from the selective service. It is obvious that the chief honcho of the selective service has caved to threats from ABOVE. But until it is abolished we still have the FOIA.

  14. Perhaps we can ask Ms.Rondeau of Post and EMAIL to pick up the action and begin reporting on the activity of the Director of the selective service. There is also a retired Selective ServiceOfficer who has in the past offerred a few viewpoints. Perhaps we can prevail upon him to expand upon what he has already discussed, by adding anything he can to his prior statements.

  15. Sheriff Joe on Obama’s Forged Identity Records: At This Point I Could Use Regular Deputies

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-on-obamas-forged-identity.html
    ———————————————–
    Alabama Supreme Court Justice Notes Evidence Presented Raises
    Serious Questions to Authenticity of Both Obama’s Birth Certificates
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s and Mara Zebest’s reports were included in the Petition submitted to the Alabama Supreme Court

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/03/alabama-supreme-court-serious-questions.html

  16. “RETHINKING AMERICA’S SUPREME JUDICIAL DICTATORSHIP”

    Thomas J. DiLorenzo
    LewRockwell.com
    March 28, 2012

    Excerpt:

    “The War between the States established . . . this principle, that the federal government is, through its courts, the final judge of its own powers.”

    – Woodrow Wilson, Constitutional Government in the United States, p. 178

    “Eighteenth- and nineteenth-century Jeffersonians warned that if the day ever arrived when the central government became the final judge of its own powers, Americans would then live under a tyranny. The government, they believed, would inevitably proclaim that there are in fact no limits to its powers. That day came in 1865 when citizen control over the federal government ended along with the rights of nullification and secession. Not surprisingly, a warmongering, imperialistic megalomaniac like Woodrow Wilson would then celebrate this fact several decades later, as the above quotation attests.

    The so-called system of checks and balances is a farce and a fraud; the reality is that all three branches of the federal government work together to conspire against the taxpayers for the benefit of the state and all of its appendages. As Judge Andrew Napalitano wrote in his book, The Constitution in Exile, the Supreme Court failed to rule a single federal law unconstitutional from 1937 to 1995. The Court is essentially a political rubber stamp operation with all of its black-robed ceremony being nothing more than part of the circus that is employed to dupe the public into acquiescing in its dictates.

    There is no such thing as an “American union.” The original union was a union of the free, independent, and sovereign states. If that union still existed, then Wisconsin, Florida, Massachusetts, Alabama, and all the other states would have at least a say in the current discussion in the Supreme Court over whether or not the American system of healthcare should be Sovietized. They do not. Every television and radio talking head is feverishly awaiting the Pronouncement from Upon High from the black-robed deities of the “Supreme” Court on this issue.

    Did Thomas Jefferson, who penned the words, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” really think it was a good idea to place everyone’s liberty solely in the hands of five government lawyers with lifetime tenure? Or perhaps even one single government lawyer with lifetime tenure, i.e., the “swing vote” on the Supreme Court, thought by many to be one Anthony Kennedy? Not likely.

    [...]

    “A major theme of Rethinking the American Union is stated in Professor Livingston’s introduction where he quotes Thomas Jefferson as writing on August 13, 1800 that: “Our country is too large to have all its affairs conducted by a single government.” Such a vast country detaches the people from their political representatives, which “will invite the public servants to corruption, plunder & waste,” he wrote. In 1800! If “the principle were to prevail,” Jefferson continued, “of a common law being in force in the U.S., (which principle possesses the general [federal] government at once of all the powers of the State governments, and reduces us to a single consolidated government) it would become the most corrupt government on earth” (emphasis added).”

    See The Entire Article Here: http://www.infowars.com/rethinking-americas-supreme-judicial-dictatorship/

  17. I am praying as I have never prayed before! I am praying that God Almighty takes hold of all the delegates and a miracle happens that Newt Gingrich is chosen to lead us back to the White House. I do not trust Romney!

    As far as Justice Roberts I do not trust him either! I feel he is one of the NWO. That rerun of swearing that fraud in again behind closed doors is troubleing to me.

  18. cabbyaz Thanks. Republicans have got to take lead. Without media on their side it will take 10 times the effort.

    Gotta walk the dog.

  19. One of the keys necessary to fight Soetoro is PUBLICITY. He can’t stand the light of day. We need to keep everything we learn in the faces of over 300,000,000 US VOTERS. Hopefully this will help to erode his voter base enough to keep him from being given a second term. The USURPER is a REAL MANIAC, and if he gains a second term we all will see exactly how much of a lunatic he really is.

  20. BYE BYE all. Got other stuff to do.

  21. “JAMES MADISON AND THE GATHERING STORM PROPHECY”

    By Timothy Baldwin, J.D.
    Posted By The Tenth Amendment Center

    Excerpt:

    “In Federalist Paper 46, Madison discusses the happy and healthy situation where the Federal and State governments respect their constitutional boundaries. Madison says, “[the federal government will] be disinclined to invade the rights of the individual States, or the prerogatives of their governments”. Congress would be the “guardians of a common interest” and would not make “improper sacrifices…of local considerations, to the aggrandizement of the federal government”.

    [...]

    Madison furthers his “what if” hypothetical by describing a federal government that pursued “ambitious encroachments”. Madison predicts such usurpations would result in the same response “as was produced by the dread of a foreign, yoke”—namely, independence from the usurping government. However, Madison cannot fathom such an event taking place; he says, “[b]ut what degree of madness could ever drive the federal government to such an extremity.” Madison feels such actions would be advanced by madmen, not fellow patriots.

    Still, Madison answers his own question (for the sake of appeasing his audience) when he describes the (implausible) circumstances ripe for this tyranny. Madison says, the “only refuge left for those who prophesy the downfall of the State governments is the visionary supposition that the federal government may previously accumulate a military force for the projects of ambition…[I]t [is not] necessary now to disprove the reality of this danger” (emphasis added).

    Madison finds it unimaginable that the federal government could and would accumulate a military force capable and for the purpose of subduing the people and States. Madison bases his conclusion on these presumptions:

    “(1) the people and the States [will not] elect…men ready to betray both; (2) [there will be no] traitors…[to] uniformly and systematically pursue some fixed plan for the extension of the military establishment; (3) the governments and the people of the States [will not] silently and patiently behold the gathering storm, and continue to supply the materials, until it should be prepared to burst on their own heads…(4) [and further] the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger [through militias]” (emphasis and numbers added).

    So here we are in 2011. Our world is not James Madison’s world. Are Madison’s presumptions correct today? Is the U.S. military incapable of subduing the States? Do the people elect only patriots, and not traitors? Do the States have the capability of successfully protecting themselves against opposing military? Are the people capable of forecasting a gathering storm?

    Reasonable persons would conclude, the U.S. military is more than capable of subduing the States; the people do elect traitors to office; and the States have no adequate means of defending themselves against opposing military force—from whatever source. (If someone has evidence to the contrary, let us see it.)

    Now that the National Defense Authorization Act is law (see my previous articles on NDAA, here and
    here), Madison’s “gathering storm” scenario is more real than ever. So, how are the States to protect themselves from enemies domestic and foreign (as they have a constitutional duty to do—see, Art. 1, Sec. 3)? Is this an inappropriate question? If so, let us see the reason.

    It is a proven maxim that States have the duty and right to protect and sustain themselves. It is also a maxim that every government owes to its citizens protection (e.g. 49-1-201, Mont. Code Ann., “Every person while within the jurisdiction of this state is entitled to its protection”; Art. 1, Sec. 10, USC). In spite of the Second Amendment’s prescription that the States maintain a well-regulated militia to secure a “Free State” and the State constitutions and laws requiring State militias to protect the State’s homeland, there is not one State that is capable of protecting the citizens from domestic or foreign invasion.”

    See The Entire Article Here: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/03/24/james-madison-and-the-gathering-storm-prophecy/

  22. Starla…..BINGO

    Your blog hit the nail squarely on the head…..thanks

  23. Another bomb from Dianna Cotter. Too bad we have to go to Pravda to read the truth:

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/29-03-2012/120917-barack_obama_foreign_student-0/

  24. Is there any international police agency or organization with the authority to investigate Obama?

  25. Tina…the answer to your question is YES……

    INTERPOL, but don’t hold your breath for that to happen….they seem to be an arm of the UN and the EU……

  26. RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    Tina…the answer to your question is YES……

    INTERPOL, but don’t hold your breath for that to happen….they seem to be an arm of the UN and the EU……

    ———-

    I understand. Can Sheriff Joe go to them?

  27. “McCain, Kyl back Obama pick seen as slap at Arpaio”

    “Arizona Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and John McCain have approved the Obama administration’s nomination for U.S. attorney in Arizona of John Leonardo, a former Arizona judge with a history of rulings adverse to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the Senate Judiciary Committee confirmed to WND.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/mccain-kyl-back-obama-pick-seen-as-slap-at-arpaio/?cat_orig=us

  28. Kate hits the nail on the head with this article.

    “CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED”

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/consent-of-the-governed/

  29. From the article…

    “A telephone interview March 22nd with Cold Case Posse Lead investigator Mike Zullo revealed the Posse had received “highly credible” information from three separate, unrelated, credible sources detailing information regarding a nationally syndicated Conservative Talk Radio show. This
    major very well-known host had a fill-in the day the script called for a discussion of Barack Obama’s persistent and unanswered questions regarding his citizenship status.

    For a nationally syndicated show, this is absolutely unheard of, particularly with a fill-in doing the show. Programing is scheduled days in advance as
    hours of work and preparation often go into them; it is after all a business and one which must inform accurately. To have a script tossed just hours before airing is simply not done without explanation or substitution.”
    _____________________________

    SueK, I suspect I know who she’s talking about. What are your thoughts?

  30. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Zach – Send your insurance plan to Cong. Paul Ryan. I heard last night that he too was being considered for VP. Thanks too for that next Pavarotti – Bocelli sound-alike contestant. When he makes your eyes leak you know he has talent.

    PS – Your plan might be too perfect for our government!!

  31. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Your plan makes “Common $ense!”

  32. So many layers and layers and layers of deception… just like his LFBC.

  33. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    observer | March 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html

    Parents of murdered British students criticise Barack Obama
    _______________________________________

    Why didn’t the USURPER say “If I had a son he would have looked like Shawm Tyson??”

  34. SueQ | March 29, 2012 at 1:03 pm |

    Hi Sue,

    I think I’ve narrowed it down to two possible ‘hosts.’ Check your e-mail in a few minutes.

    Ms. Cotter uses the phrase ‘threatened into silence’ and that’s exactly what’s going on. When your family member is named and you’re told how they’re doing at (wherever they are) that says it all. Surveillance, intimidation, thug tactics.

    Regardless, the threats were in place thus, the tossed script.

    I think I see a few dominoes beginning to fall as witnesses are starting to come forward. Once the domino chain is activated there’s no stopping it.

    This is getting very interesting.

  35. Tina….

    RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    Tina…the answer to your question is YES……

    INTERPOL, but don’t hold your breath for that to happen….they seem to be an arm of the UN and the EU……

    ———-

    I understand. Can Sheriff Joe go to them?

    _______________________________________________

    NO….He doesn’t have standing (that seems to be the catch phrase now days….Only international crimes..

  36. I would think that an imposter, dealing with any foreign entity in an official capacity, would be an international crime.
    I believe that Arpaio is still only representing his constituency with his official requests of public agencies. He is merely asking them to authenticate documents relative to Obama appearing on the ballot in Maricopa County. If he determines that Obama is fraudulently seeking an office in which the voters of Maricopa County participate, then he most likely will recommend charging Obama within his own jurisdiction. Arpaio cannot arbitrarily travel to Washington D.C. and arrest Obama without due process. Due process is achieved when a proscecutor or grand jury determines that enough evidence
    exists to proceed to trial. From there, all neccessary documents will need to be presented to determine whether or not warrants will need to issue and, if necessary, any orders for extradition, which would need to be served in the state where the individual resides…..etc.
    This is far from a done deal…darn Constitution keeps getting in the way.

  37. Just an aside…all these entities, in attempting to protect a fraud, are “actively” participating in the “crime of fraud” by “knowingly witholding evidence in a criminal investigation”, which is, in itself, a crime. Arpaio knows this. Ignorance of the law, in this case. will not be a valid defense. Just to make you feel better…the list of criminal participants is growing. Arpaio also knows this. Just because he comes across as your grandfather, does not mean he is being overly kind or ignorant. This man is a law enforcement professional with vast experience and, I can assure you, the very last guy Obama would want on his tail…..Obama is well aware of this also.

  38. coldwarvet2 | March 29, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    Just to make you feel better…the list of criminal participants is growing. Arpaio also knows this. Just because he comes across as your grandfather, does not mean he is being overly kind or ignorant. This man is a law enforcement professional with vast experience and, I can assure you, the very last guy Obama would want on his tail…..Obama is well aware of this also.
    ________________________
    Worth repeating! And BTW it does make me feel better :) Courage!

  39. How many here have played chess? If you have, then you know at the end of the game, when the opposing king has been relegated to the corner two diagonally opposed squares where he can only move back and forth, regardless of how many of his pieces remain on the board, it is check mate…game over!
    Obama’s pieces are all over the board…in the congress, in the judiciary, in law enforcement, in state government, but when Arpaio became involved, it became a “game changer”. Obama is now steadily being moved toward the corner two squares…and he knows it.

  40. Coldwarvet…..

    CHECKMATE…Game over

  41. I agree with you coldwarvet when you say that an imposter dealing with foreign governments is an international crime but……

    The foreign government that’s getting screwed by the imposter must ask for Interpol assistance…Sheriff Joe is not a foreign government. Now if the FBI or a federal agency ask for assistance…that’s another ball of wax…but we all know that will never happen.

  42. RMinNc
    You are correct…foreign entities would be a back door.
    My point is that all we need at present is Arpaio. He is nobody’s fool, and he smells blood in the water. I find it hard to believe that he was not well aware of the situation on the ground before he got involved. He was correct in that his commission resides in the people of Maricopa County.. His constitutents requested his assistance and participation and, if you think about it, perhaps at his own request to keep appearances as they should be. I would suggest that we “keep our eye on the sparrow” in all this …as( to quote the CIA) everything else is most probably not as it seems.

  43. …just another passing thought…
    We do not know for certain that Interpol isn’t involved, nor would we. What we might strongly suspect however, is that a virtual host of intelligence agencies are, more than likely, way ahead of Arpaio.

  44. Could you explain for me what Interpol is? Have heard of it, but have not fully understood. Thanks.

  45. IS THIS THE REAL REASON MEMBERS OF SEAL TEAM SIX WERE KILLED IN CHOPPER CRASH IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN RULES OF NOT TRANSPORTATING AN ENTIRE TEAM ON ONE CHOPPER?

    Richard Lardner reports for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, March 15, 2012:
    Government officials have openly discussed details of the mission [to kill Osama bin Laden] in speeches, interviews and television appearances, but the administration won’t disclose records that would confirm their narrative of that fateful night. The Associated Press asked for files about the raid in more than 20 separate [FOIA] requests, mostly submitted the day after bin Laden’s death.

    The Pentagon told the AP this month it COULD NOT LOCATE any photographs or video taken during the raid or showing bin Laden’s body. It also said it COULD NOT FIND ANY IMAGES of bin Laden’s body on the Navy aircraft carrier where the al-Qaida leader’s body was taken.

    The Pentagon said it COULD NOT FIND any death certificate, autopsy report,or results of DNA identification tests for bin Laden, or any pre-raid materials discussing how the government planned to dispose of bin Laden’s body if he were killed.

    It said it searched files at the Pentagon, U.S. Special Operations Command in Tampa, Fla., and the Navy command in San Diego that controls the USS Carl Vinson, the aircraft carrier used in the mission.

    The Defense Department told the AP in late February it COULD NOT FIND any emails about the bin Laden mission, or his “Geronimo” code name that were sent or received in the year before the raid by William McRaven, the three-star admiral at the Joint Special Operations Command who organized and oversaw the mission. It also COULD NOT FIND any emails from other senior officers who would have been involved in the mission’s planning.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Estimate Of The Situation by RMinNC;

    Now one of two things ( and only two) is going on here:

    1,. Either the raid and death of bin Laden didn’t happen as the President, Secretary of State, the Pentagon and the main stream media said. It appears as if Big Lies were told and Seal Team Six was scrubbed as the scapegoat and lamb offered up on the alter to cover sloppy tracks.

    or

    2. Whom ever has been scrubbing Mr. Obama’s complete recorded history in writting also did a great job of scrubbing all the official military records or this IMAGINARY mission. Vital records as as do not just go missing from the files at the Pentagon. If this happened, you can bet your sweet bippy they had “TOP SECRET” stamped over them.

    CONCLUSION: As much as my heart would like to believe option #2, my head and prior military experience and all evidence points to number #1. Bin Laden was reported dead long before Obama took credit for his demise.Again clearly proving we have the inmates of the criminal cabal running the insane institution.

    I would hope and pray the brave men of Seal Team Six didn’t die to cover up someone’s tracks simply to recoup slumping rating in the polls.

    But, that’s not beyond acceptable thinking where my friend, Old Salt would say; UP is DOWN and RIGHT is WRONG..

    EITHER WAY, THIS PENTAGON REPORT CRY’S OUT FOR A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION AND JUSTICE FOR THE MEMBERS OF SEAL TEAM SIX !

  46. coldwarvet2 | March 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    …just another passing thought…
    We do not know for certain that Interpol isn’t involved, nor would we. What we might strongly suspect however, is that a virtual host of intelligence agencies are, more than likely, way ahead of Arpaio.
    ***********************************************
    Yeah, CWV, it has been said for some time that foreign intelligence probably knows a whole lot more about him than we do. That could be a problem, too, because of the threat of blackmail. This one in the W.H. now couldn’t even begin to pass the most basic of security clearances, and here he is pResident. Well, we all are beginning to see how this happened.

    BTW, I always enjoy reading your posts and also the conversations between you and RMinNC.

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  48. Wondering why the solidarity within the band of Sheriffs throughout the U.S. isn’t spreading the evidence within their own communities. They should back the requests of Sheriff Arpaio via a solidarity movement (as was done in Poland against the commies) and make same requests to Selective Service…opening up their own investigations since they too have standing via the publicly released bogus birth certificate. Get some of the tea parties in the other states to request similar type investigations, asking for proof before the upcoming election. Then Sheriff Joe wouldn’t look like the lone ranger. Aren’t some of his 3000 investigators located in other states? What about the retired Postal Investigator gumshoes….or has he requested the active Postal Investigators to look into the phony Selective Service form/date? Are they some of the “other” agencies he’s asked for help? Frankly, if the alleged threatened “well known” talk radio/tv meisters would also ban together and go before congress with their threats via the FTC or FCC the scandal would open up. They don’t need to feel so threatened if they would connect with one another and all come out of the closet, so to speak, turning the tables on those who issue such threats. Who wants to live under that kind of thuggery….esp. when the threats allegedly involve their family members as well.

  49. “SHERIFF ARPAIO: OBAMA’S RECORDS ARE MISSING”

    Infowars.com
    Thursday, March 29, 2012

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio talks to Infowars about the media blackout surrounding the Obama birth certificate issue.

    The Obama records which have not been released include; Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/
    schedules (said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/
    Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.

    State Representative Carl Seel, who introduced the bill, was joined by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, State Senator Lori Klein, and others in support of the bill. Important new information was revealed during the news conference including a request by Sheriff Joe Arpaio to the current head of the Selective Service Board to investigate the criminal forgery committed in the case of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration. In addtion, Carl Seel reveals some of the resistance that other Republicans are creating to stop the bill from even heading to a vote.

    The bill will require Barack Obama, or any candidate seeking to be on the Arizona ballot, to certify eligibility for the office they are seeking. This will essentially require Barack Obama to certify his eligibility if he wants to be on the ballot this year in Arizona. This could potentially be a game-changing piece of legislation.

    Watch the news conference below.”

    See Two Videos Here: http://www.infowars.com/sheriff-arpaio-obamas-records-are-missing/

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    “BEHIND THE SCENES ATTEMPT TO KILL ARIZONA’S OBAMA ELIGIBILITY BILL”

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    Infowars.com
    March 29, 2012

    http://www.infowars.com/behind-the-scenes-attempt-to-kill-arizonas-obama-eligibilty-bill/

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  50. CW I’m in moderation at 4:07. This time I don’t have a clue. Thank you for digging me out again!

  51. “SHERIFF ARPAIO: OBAMA’S RECORDS ARE MISSING”

    Infowars.com
    Thursday, March 29, 2012

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio talks to Infowars about the media blackout surrounding the Obama birth certificate issue.

    The Obama records which have not been released include: Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules (said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.

    State Representative Carl Seel, who introduced the bill, was joined by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, State Senator Lori Klein, and others in support of the bill. Important new information was revealed during the news conference including a request by Sheriff Joe Arpaio to the current head of the Selective Service Board to investigate the criminal forgery committed in the case of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration. In addtion, Carl Seel reveals some of the resistance that other Republicans are creating to stop the bill from even heading to a vote.

    The bill will require Barack Obama, or any candidate seeking to be on the Arizona ballot, to certify eligibility for the office they are seeking. This will essentially require Barack Obama to certify his eligibility if he wants to be on the ballot this year in Arizona. This could potentially be a game-changing piece of legislation.

    Watch the news conference below.”

    See Two Videos Here: http://www.infowars.com/sheriff-arpaio-obamas-records-are-missing/

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “BEHIND THE SCENES ATTEMPT TO KILL ARIZONA’S OBAMA ELIGIBILITY BILL”

    Patrick Henningsen
    Infowars.com
    March 29, 2012

    http://www.infowars.com/behind-the-scenes-attempt-to-kill-arizonas-obama-eligibilty-bill/

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  53. RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    IS THIS THE REAL REASON MEMBERS OF SEAL TEAM SIX WERE KILLED IN CHOPPER CRASH IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN RULES OF NOT TRANSPORTATING AN ENTIRE TEAM ON ONE CHOPPER?……..
    I would hope and pray the brave men of Seal Team Six didn’t die to cover up someone’s tracks simply to recoup slumping rating in the polls.
    *******************************
    Remember that the supposed killing of Osama bin Laden occurred not long after the Apr., 2011, release of the fraudulent long-form B.C. This military “exploit” could have been carried out to take attention away from the B.C.

    Also, I have read another “take” on it. Someone recently pointed out (don’t have the link) that the Islamists at the time vowed retribution for O’s demise; however, that has not happened, and the reason it hasn’t, in the opinion of the writer, is that O is still alive and hiding out in Iran. It is another theory, of course. Something is terribly fishy here. So what else is new?

    I agree that if our brave men were expendable to cover up a hoax, those in power should be thoroughly punished by receiving the death penalty.

  54. RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm |

    Please provide a link. Thanks.

  55. SueQ….go to : Give Us liberty.

  56. Yes…. Cabby and SueQ…..

    Something smells to “high heaven” concerning the Pentagon reporting of no records about Bin Laden death…..and it damn sure isn’t rotting fish in Denmark !

  57. Cabby
    Thanks for the Atta Boy…I’m sure RMinNC feels the same. I have a concern that, as I have stated in the past, because of the extreme angst involved in this political situation, some of us have a tendency to want to jump ahead of ourselves which causes us to lose perspective. (and be further frustrated)
    These folks in the Whitehouse, allegedly (notice I said “allegedly”) being deeply involved in perceived criminal activity, are not going to simply lay down and give themselves up. This is a conspiracy of the highest order and efforts to extract information will be frustrated at every turn.
    I would say thank God for our Constitution. Be certain it has been a huge stumbling block for this criminal organization. The good of all this strife is the exposure of the weaknesses in our system such as, presidential appointment authority of politically sensitive offices. Congressional abdication of authority to questionable entities. Hopefully, we will remember all this when we reach a point where we will truly be able to overhaul our government in a meaningful way.

  58. RMinNC
    …good fishing…
    How many times has Osama bin Laden been killed now anyway?

  59. A Crazy Old Coot

    I would say thank God for our Constitution. Be certain it has been a huge stumbling block for this criminal organization.
    ////////////////////////
    This admin doesn’t see it as a stumbling block, more like a door mat to be stepped on.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  60. coldwarvet…

    I count at least three times now…perhaps someone in the Pentagon might want to increase that number…if they would ever tell the truth.

    This Bin Laden guy is better than Lazzarus who only came back from the dead file once…that I recall..

  61. Coldwarvet….

    I concur with your comments to cabby…good analysis

  62. Did Seal team 6 actually perish? Does it, or has it, even existed? This administration has been playing a shell game with us from the very beginning. It is egregious behavior to play these kinds of games with the public. It only serves to show the total lack of regard for the taxpayer by this entire administration. I seem to recall something called the “Tonkin Gulf Incident”.

  63. Oh…by the way, we were never in Laos, or Cambodia either…ever hear of Air America?…

  64. GONE AGAIN SKIP- TA- MAL-LEU……

    I just read on Drudge where Muchelllle and her 2 daughters are GONE again…..

    This time they jetted out to Mount Rushmore in South Dakota for a day trip…then they will be off to Vegas for the fun and lights….then back on the Taxpayers plane flying out to San Francisco for a fun raiser….

    As I recall, the oldest daughter just returned from Mexico using taXpayer assets, now she’s GONE again…….

    History will most certainly remember this family as the MOST travelled and the highest spenders of taxpayer dollars for their personal pleasures.

    I have a question, perhaps someone can answer. My question is:

    When Obama is finally exposed for the fake he is, will Muchelllle and him have to repay all the taxpayer dollars they have wasted on their worldly tours…or will they just have to work it out making auto plates in the big house?

    p.s. don’t those kids go to school everyday like everyone else’s kids?

  65. oldsalt79 | March 29, 2012 at 11:44 am |
    Diana Cotter…………………
    Keep it up young lady……….you are doing a very fine job! Some of which you are reporting is information that many of us already SUSPECT is the truth…….but for the most part you have done a lot to CONFIRM IT as the truth. I thank you from my very soul. I personally believe that the magnitude of the electoral fraud goes far beyond the wildest imagination. I have read recently that even Sheriff Arpiao is getting the RUN AROUND from the selective service. It is obvious that the chief honcho of the selective service has caved to threats from ABOVE. But until it is abolished we still have the FOIA.
    ==============================
    Oldsalt,
    Are you aware that Dianna Cotter, author of the PRAVDA article, is one of the many people who misstickly disparaged in her lengthy commentary just last month at her obamasgarden website? Dianna (Danae) is a freeper who MT had sparred with on occasion at Free Republic over her own Hawaii birth records. MT publicly revealed Dianna’s identity and made allegations against her family. The details are in section 4 of her scathing report.
    Name: Dianna Skelly Cotter, a.k.a. ‘Danae’
    Location: Oregon
    Professional Background: FReeper since October 2004,
    http://freerepublic.com/~danae/
    Student, Contributor to the Examiner, ‘Civil Rights in Portland’ section

  66. Coot…
    Sounds as if the separation of powers might have been working O.K. over the past few days…remains to be seen however.

  67. RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 4:26 pm |

    SueQ….go to : Give Us liberty.
    _______________________

    Thanks again. From the link (tip) you provided…

    “… in response to a Freedom of Information Act request made by the Associated Press, the Pentagon says it has no records — not one photo, not one video, not even an e-mail — of bin Laden’s death?”

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/pentagon-has-no-records-of-osama-bin-ladens-death/

    Thanks much RMinNC

  68. Hey coldwarvet….

    I occasionally worked with Air America in Nam/Cambodia/Laos/etc, They said they were doing human work…I called it something else.

  69. Jonah | March 29, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    Are you aware that Dianna Cotter, author of the PRAVDA article, is one of the many people who misstickly disparaged in her lengthy commentary just last month at her obamasgarden website? Dianna (Danae) is a freeper who MT had sparred with on occasion at Free Republic over her own Hawaii birth records. MT publicly revealed Dianna’s identity and made allegations against her family.
    **********************************
    Jonah, after reading that diatribe by misstickly last month, I have lost respect for her and really question her motives, sad to say. Her cannibalizing others in the movement in that manner does not commend her or her work. Just my opinion…..

  70. Another example of the layers of deception.
    http://www.startribune.com/nation/142811145.html

    BTW, Jonah and Cabby, I heard that Miss T’s family was threatened as well. I could be wrong. But that’s what I heard. Maybe someone smarter than me can set me straight. I agree that MT’s rant was unfortunate. But who knows how any of us would respond under the circumstances. Not to excuse.

  71. RMinNC
    ..ah yes…Air America…
    Wasn’t that the little civilian aviation passenger company…….that flew C-119’s (full of French paratroopers) into the Ashau Valley in 1957?
    Why do they think we can’t figure this stuff out?

  72. “Passportgate – A History”
    © Miri WTPOTUS March 29, 2012

    “This month marks the fourth anniversary of what author Jack Cashill called

    one of the great underreported stories of the 2008 campaign: the multiple breaches of the presidential candidates’ passport records in March of that year.

    … The security breach of the State Department passport files, in 2008, was among the very first signs of the scrubbing of any documentary evidence that might disprove what Obama wants Americans to believe about him. As hard as it may be for us to believe, there remain Americans who know little about these issues. …”

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/passportgate-a-history/

  73. I heard on Fox yesterday morning that Ben Laden’s wifes were fighting with one another in the Pakastin (sp) jail. They can get five years for entering with out permission! ?

    Keeping them locked up keeps them from letting the truth out…don’t you think?

  74. Gordo
    I remember when that was reported, and thinking to myself, “what would be the big deal about stealing a few passport records?” Maybe for Hillary. But right at first they claimed they didn’t know exactly what information had been stolen.
    It’s possible that, like myself at the time, there are those that still think it is relatively insignificant. It most certainly is a crowning achievement for the MSM that this info is not more widely known. Additionally, and part of the same subject, it certainly was a teachable moment when the MSM actually suppressed the coverage of the Arpaio conference. I would submit to you that there will be a significant number of those who are totally unaware of not only what was covered in the Arpaio presser, but even who Arpaio is.
    It is a proven fact that people only tend to remember things for about 6 months.

  75. A Crazy Old Coot

    RMinNC | March 29, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    GONE AGAIN SKIP- TA- MAL-LEU……
    I just read on Drudge where Muchelllle and her 2 daughters are GONE again…..
    This time they jetted out to Mount Rushmore in South Dakota
    //////////////////////////////////////
    Scouting for the location of obama’s ….. (you name it)????

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  76. Coot…
    The old Klingon War Bride is probably checking to see if there is room on the mountain for “you know who”. Oh well, if not, they can always just put it over the top of Washington.

  77. A Crazy Old Coot

    coldwarvet2 | March 29, 2012 at 6:48 pm |

    I was going to say head, but there’s no mountain big enough for his big head. Then I was going to say a lower part of the body and decided no one would know which end I was talking about, so I left it up to others to decide what to put up. :)

  78. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Haven’t commented for a while, but have read the blog every day.

    I’d like to make a few comments.

    First a few days ago people were “discussing” Rubio being VP.

    Rubio is INeligible for EITHER VP or President, but yet there was at least one commenter who posted that they would vote for a Romney/Rubio ticket because it was the “lesser of two evils”.

    In my mind, that would be the height of hypocrisy.

    On the Trayvon Martin case, I just love watching his parents using their dead son as a spring board to national attention. I don’t think they are doing this out of “good”, but are simply “attention hounds”, and all you have to do is look at who they are hanging with to come to that conclusion.

    The kid was SUSPENDED from school at the time the incident occurred, but yet he was a “good” kid. And it wasn’t his first suspension either.

    I would hope that the police verified Zimmerman’s story, and THAT is why he was not arrested.

    On Zach’s comments about heath care and the Republicans having a “plan”.

    Nothing against Zach at all, but to me, here’s my thoughts:

    We worked until April 12th last year to pay our tax obligations to the Government. I’m thinking that is way too long. I’d like the Government to get OUT of the health care business at ALL levels, except of course the military.

    I do NOT like the idea of “tax breaks”, or “pools” or ANYTHING that would involve the Government when it comes to ANYTHING that has to do with people’s every day lives.

    We have allowed the creation of a Government that has gotten so big that we can’t control it, so we create another bureaucracy to “control” the other bureaucracies.

    And on the gasoline prices.

    Why is it NOT reported that these gas companies make about 5 cents a gallon on gas profit, while the FEDERAL Government collects 18 cents per gallon FEDERAL tax? So if Exxon is making 4.7 million dollars an hour, the Government is making over THREE times that amount.

    On the healthcare debate before the SC,

    I’ll be interested in what comes out in June or July. Although some of the Justices seemed concerned about the law, I won’t be surprised if the whole of the law is not be UPHELD.

    The court sure hasn’t been our “friend” over the last three years, and I don’t see them “saving face” with this issue.

    And finally on Romney,

    I can NOT stand the man. I can NOT stand to even listen to him, because like Obama, he says what the audience he is in front of wants to hear. Like Obama, he is an EMPTY SUIT.

    I wouldn’t vote for Romney with Santorum on the ticket, or Paul on the ticket, or anyone else on the ticket.

    He believes that Government is the SOLUTION when it is the PROBLEM (oh I know he has said those exact words, but he doesn’t BELIEVE that, and I don’t think he’ll “govern” that way).

    I’m not willing to wait eight more years to get solutions for the humongous problems our Country faces, and I don’t think either of the major parties’ candidates are willing to tackle the problems we have, and to begin disassembling this behemoth we have allowed to be created.

    I’ll be looking elsewhere.

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  80. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Rereading my last comment, I sure don’t come accross as optimistic, do I?

  81. A Crazy Old Coot

    It is hard to be optimistic with our current gov’t.

  82. IB
    I didn’t know there was supposed to be a reason to be optomistic…

  83. oldsalt, not sure what baggage we are talking about? the wives? freddie mac? I know he was not my 1st choice, but knowing that he does not have the backing from the elites, tells me alot. The media is absolutely usless for the patriots. now soetoro is asking for race riots. Zach, you get my vote as well. Stay safe all, God Bless. :)

  84. Pretty soon now, hopefully, enough people will ‘get’ the fact, any images of President Obama’s birth certificates in the public domain are only part of a political advertising campaign, released to coincide with his general election campaigns, and protected by the 1st Amendment as to content, whether true; but of absolutely no use as identification documents. (And that the WhiteHouse.gov web site on which the ad using the image of a mock-up of a long form birth certificate, is being featured; is not an official government portal but a commercial web site run by Akamai, in Cambridge, MA.) WHY PRESIDENT OBAMA RELEASED the LONG-FORM IMAGE of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE in PDF versus JPEG

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  87. jbjd | March 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    Pretty soon now, hopefully, enough people will ‘get’ the fact, any images of President Obama’s birth certificates in the public domain are only part of a political advertising campaign, released to coincide with his general election campaigns, and protected by the 1st Amendment as to content, whether true; but of absolutely no use as identification documents.
    *************************
    With all due respect, the above leaves me cold. I have read the treatise on this subject at your blog and still I am cold. You set forth that any images of the birth certificates in the public domain are only part of a “political advertising campaign”, but In April, 2011, when Obama himself introduced the last version he did it NOT as advertising but as the PROOF of his birth in Hawaii.

    One can dance all around that in any fashion one wishes, making allowances here and there based upon PDF vs. JPEG presentations, but the fact remains Obama has intended to deceive the public. He is President of the U.S. and such behavior cannot be dismissed as the work of an over zealous campaign staff. There is probable cause that he has committed crime. Any responsible person who has followed these events has overwhelmingly come to this conclusion.

    I ask this of you: Why does it give you so much satisfaction to delve into these grave concerns from the perspective that you have chosen?

    I venture to say that at least 90% of God-fearing, patriotic Americans don’t give a tinker’s darn as to whether he was trying to benefit his reelection campaign or not. The real issue here is deception, alleged fraud and abuse of power by the highest office-holder in the land. Are you arranging the chairs on the Titanic while the ship is sinking?

  88. Iranian born Jarret calling the shots?:

    BOMBSHELL BETRAYAL: Obama Leaking Info to Media to Thwart Israeli Strike and Protect Iran’s Nuclear weapons Program

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/03/bombshell-obama-leaking-info-to-media-to-thwart-israeli-strike-and-protect-irans-nuclear-weapons-pro.html
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Bolton Charges Obama Purposely Undermining Israel

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bolton-israel-iran-obama/2012/03/29/id/434288

  89. cabbyaz, great post.
    I only wish I hadn’t taken the time to go to JBJD’s website and read the thread. She makes some good points, but the bottom line is the LFCOLB was posted in an attempt to deceive the American people.

  90. Ray,
    Thanks. It is hard for me to not be straight forward about such things, although my approach may seem too strident. As you say, “…the bottom line….” and that is what counts imho.

  91. Cabby. While what JBJD says sounds logical and may in fact be true from a legal perspective (I don’t know), Obama declared it to be a valid document and when it is.finally determined to be a fraud the result will be the same along with any.credibility that the Democrat party has left. It will send them to the wilderness for decades.

  92. Paxson | March 30, 2012 at 1:52 am |

    …..when it is.finally determined to be a fraud the result will be the same along with any.credibility that the Democrat party has left. It will send them to the wilderness for decades.
    *********************************
    Paxson, I believe the Dem Party is already on its way, don’t you? And I don’t see how it can be revitalized as long as it continues downward on its socialistic path. Any Dems who still have an ounce of patriotism left will have to end up jumping ship before it sinks.

  93. jacqlynsmith

    3-28-12 David Wilcock Interview of Drake, “an Insider specifically asked by the Pentagon ‘good guys’ to come forward”

    UPDATE 2:59 PM — INTERVIEW WITH TOP INSIDER ABOUT IMMINENT MASS ARRESTS
    I am on the plane to this weekend’s conference in Austin. You are about to hear a stunning interview with Drake, an insider specifically asked by the Pentagon “good guys” to come forward and explain what is going to be done. I was blown away by the information he was giving. If you didn’t already believe this was really going to happen, this may very well change your mind. I ran Drake through an extensive validation process with one of my top insiders and he passed with flying colors. He is the real deal.
    We have an urgent-status rush transcription order for our Divine Cosmos Transcription Team on this, and will get it posted ASAP.”

    Audio links can be found here…..

    http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/3-28-12-david-wilcock-interview-of-drake-an-insider-specifically-asked-by-the-pentagon-good-guys-to-come-forward/

  94. Merely insisting someone has committed fraud does not change state election laws, let alone minds. Unless fraud can be established, no one who believes no fraud has occurred will withhold a vote from the man who I believe has perpetrated this fraud. No one who understands that any presentation of this long form birth certificate is only part of political advertising campaign could vote for the person who indicated it meant otherwise.

    So, to the extent that you believe this will achieve your goals, keep insisting President Obama is a fraud and praying to God to rescue you from this abomination; and analyzing me, personally, but not whether my work gets to the heart of the issue of Presidential eligibility. Meanwhile, I will keep working to educate the public about how our government works; and how to effectively petition that government in the way provided for by laws enacted by the people; to make it work better. (I assume that if people had understood for the past 4 years how our government worked, for example, the nature of permissible campaign expenditures; they would not have wasted so much time on such frivolous pursuits as analyzing the pixels on a computer screen in an attempt to ‘prove’ a document was a fake and it’s proponent not who he says he is. Because, as I have proven, establishing this fraud could have been accomplished, for example, just by noticing the attribution in the footer on a computer screen.)

  95. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    If I may, with all due respect to JBJD.

    JBJD is exactly why we have too many lawyers in this country.

    It’s amazing to me because Obama said he sent a request to Hawaii to release his LFBC, sent a lawyer (Probably at tax payer expense) to Hawaii to “secure” said document, went before the public and said that this WAS his LFBC, and then posted the document on the White House dot gov website.

    But yet the argument is:

    “There’s nothing to see here, move along now”.

    Interesting…..

    In my mind there is NO law that needs to be 2700 pages long. The “whereas'” and “heretoo’s” are simply too much for me. And what is these parts of the bills where it states:

    “Change this word of this bill to this”?

    In other words, a couple years from now they could pass a law, and in that law it could state:

    Change the word “voluntary” on page whatever of this certain bill to “mandatory”, and poof, it’s no longer “voluntary”.

    And JBJD continually comments that “the people” pass the laws.

    That’s a complete croc.

    We ELECT people who we feel will REPRESENT us to positions in our Government, and then they stab us in the back and vote for bigger Government, UNnecessary regulations, laws that LIMIT one’s personal liberty, and now laws that FORCE us to aquire property whether it be health care, car seats, steel toed shoes and many other things that are NOT the Government’s business.

    Remember West AND Rubio voted FOR NDAA, so in my view BOTH are “wolves in sheeps clothing”. Oh I’m sure their response would be:

    “There are some parts of the bill that I don’t like, but………..blah blah blah.”

    Again, it is NOT my intention to be calling JBJD out.

    My intention is to point out how ridiculous our Government has become.

    I have NEVER passed a law. NOT ONCE

    Of course I could submit a law to my Representative for consideration, but I’m sure it would be sent back to me because it was too “simple”.

    And allow me one more point about the Trayvon Martin issue:

    When are the Chicago police going to arrest someone in the Donald Young case?

    And when does Jesse and Al fly in to Chicago to bring this tragedy to the public’s attention?

    Maybe, just maybe a white man or woman shot Donald Young. Probably a racist and homophobe also. I’m sure HIS parents would like closure to this case.

    It’s been over 4 years now, and NOT A PEEP from any of the so called “black leaders”.

    It really is the height of hypocrisy.

  96. Interested Bystander

    How rude of me,

    Good morning everyone.

    Now off to get ready to head to the casino for a few hours of hoping we can hit a couple thousand dollars.

    I’m sure Tina won’t approve of THAT either.

    I am SOOOO going to hell.

    Oh well, see you there Tina.

  97. citizenwells

    Good morning IB, et al.

  98. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Good morning everyone – Here is a joke that I hope will give you a little lift. I call it “Parrot Joke #2″

    Obama walks into a CHICAGO bar with a parrot on his shoulder.
    “Can it talk?” inquired the bartender.
    “Only with a teleprompter” said the Parrot

  99. Interested Bystander | March 30, 2012 at 5:53 am |

    Hey All,

    If I may, with all due respect to JBJD.

    JBJD is exactly why we have too many lawyers in this country.

    It’s amazing to me because Obama said he sent a request to Hawaii to release his LFBC, sent a lawyer (Probably at tax payer expense) to Hawaii to “secure” said document, went before the public and said that this WAS his LFBC, and then posted the document on the White House dot gov website.
    **************************************************************************************
    If you had bothered to read my articles in this series on the long form birth certificate fraud, you would have learned, the WH explicitly revealed ‘no public funds were expended to travel to HI to retrieve the document.’ (I digested several articles to reach the conclusions I published.) Indeed, this statement tended to support my contention, the long form launch was timed to coincide with President Obama’s 2012 bid for re-election, and was only a part of that political campaign.

    Again, what you think about “jbjd”; or whether you agree that saying people pass the laws is false because people-through-their-elected-officials pass the laws; has absolutely no bearing on President Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for the job. Why are you still focusing on this extraneous minutia? On the other hand, if you didn’t know that the WhiteHouse.gov site is just a blog, like CW’s; or that nothing posted there represents official government work; then, for the past 4 years, you could not have been alerting other voters among your family, friends, and acquaintances to these facts, thus ensuring even more people than read my blog, can rationally establish, this whole long form birth certificate rouse is a fraud.

  100. JBJD. I’m praying to God and counting on heros like Joe Arpaio and others to keep getting at the truth.

  101. Good Morning CW, et. al.-

  102. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    jbjd | March 30, 2012 at 4:27 am |

    “Meanwhile, I will keep working to educate the public about how our government works;”
    _________________________________________

    jjbjd – Don’t you mean DOESN’T WORKS??

  103. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    WORK

  104. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Zach – Did you send your insurance plan to Cong. Paul Ryan of Wisc?
    There is talk of him being a possible VP or Secretary of the Treasury. I caught him on several tv channels yesterday and was very impressed.

  105. From the Pravda link, poster Kenyan BornObama posts up the most succinct analysis of the definition of Natural Born Citizen and what it meant to the framers of the Constitution. This says it all, and cannot be debated:

    Natural Born Citizen in the Constitutional drafts:

    June 18th, 1787- Alexander Hamilton’s draft for the Constitution suggests in Article IX, Section 1 that: “No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.”
    (Works of Alexander Hamilton: Miscellanies, 1774-1789, page 407).

    July 25, 1787 (~5 weeks later) – John Jay writes a letter to General Washington(president of the Constitutional Convention): “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” [the word born is underlined in Jay's letter which signifies the importance of allegiance from birth.]
    (Records of the Federal Convention of 1787 [Farrand's Records, Volume 3] LXVIII, page 61. John Jay to George Washington).

    September 2nd, 1787 George Washington pens a letter to John Jay. The last line reads:”I thank you for the hints contained in your letter”.
    (Records of the Federal Convention of 1787 [Farrand's Records, Volume 3] pae 76.)

    September 4th, 1787 (~6 weeks after Jay’s letter and just 2 days after Washingtonwrote back to Jay) – The “Natural Born Citizen” requirement is now found in their drafts.
    (Madison’s notes of the Convention – September 4th, 1787).

    The proposal passed unanimously without debate.

  106. Mr. Bill – I went to Paul Ryan’s web page but it asks for zip code. He’s not my representative. Take care, Zach

  107. JBJD (a supposed “teacher” of the law) does nothing but present circular firing squad logic. While insisting that we force the DNC, and state SOSs certify that POTUS candidates are “Constitutionally eligible”, she also states that no judiciable definition of “natural born Citizen” exists— which of course means that NO Constitutional eligibility can be certified.

    Minor v. Happersett IS precedent— as I have embarrassed this supposed “law prof” of the folly of her logic at her own blog. V. Minor’s natural born Citizenship was a material judicial determination in direct support of the holding of the case— that Citizens BEFORE the 14A had no right to vote, and thus, since the 14A gave no EXTRA priveledges or immunities, had no “right” to vote after the 14A. Further, the original citizenship holdings of Minor v. Happersett were cited in subsequent SCOTUS cases, such as Ex Parte Lockwood and Boyd v. Nebraska (see how I totally demolish her silly argument at her own blog, where she has written 2 blog posts about my responses to her faulty “logic’).

    Applying a little more logic, we can see that A2S1C5 has NEVER been amended. In 1790, if born under the same circumstances, i.e born in the US of a US Citizen mother, and alien father, Obama would have been considered AN ALIEN until the naturalization of the father during the Obama’s minority. Therefore Obama can not be considered a natural born Citizen today. Since the 14A CAN exist side by side with A2S1C5, and the record of the 39th Congress’ Congressional Globe contains clear evidence of Congressional understanding that it did exist side by side, and did not amend A2S1C5, then by the laws of statotory construction they must have separate effect. You can also cite Marbury v. Madison that the argument that the 14th A moots A2S1C5 is INADMISSABLE, yet a judge in Georgia has made just such an argument.

  108. By the way, at JBJD’s blog I am “Mick”

  109. citizenwells

    I read JBJD’s article.
    Strong point made.
    I have made several similar points regarding the “or abstract” and lack of
    proof of chain of record.
    Just because one of the Perkins Coie attorneys may have traveled to HI & allegedly
    brought back a BC for Obama, does not mean that the image placed on WhiteHouse.gov
    was that doc.
    And remember, especially since the word abstract is used, HI may consider it a legit BC
    even if it is an amalgam of info from HI databases.

    PS-Hawaii is one screwed up state. No debate required.

  110. jbjd,
    What is your opinion on Obama’s forged Selective Service card, which is not part of political campaign?

  111. JBJD,
    I think people here aren’t communicating well with you. Legally, you are correct in that Obama and his Administration would claim (when confronted) that the released LFBC was nothing but campaign material, and thus does not represent ‘fraud’. I would add that it would then be OBVIOUS to Americans that Obama does not now, nor never did qualify as NBC. I use a now famous paraphrase quote “People who have nothing to hide don’t hide everything” Indeed, if they understood the concept of ‘campaign materials’ as an excuse for forgery of a official document, it could lead to bloodshed. I can hear calls for violence against lawyers for trying to defend this type of Constitutional destruction and subversion, when the mobs gather upon discovering the depth of the deception.

    Honestly, I see a game of chess in which the pieces have moved on the board and slowly the game is turning in favor of those whom are trying to defend the Constitution. The democrats have used Sun Tzu principles in the art of war, leaving your army in a position of victory or complete destruction. However, when you go all in on a pair of 5’s you have to be prepared to pay the piper. I can now hear the music in the background, distant but approaching.

    Pete

  112. JBJD:
    On the other hand, if you didn’t know that the WhiteHouse.gov site is just a blog, like CW’s; or that nothing posted there represents official government work;
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Well then, perhaps all of the recorded statements by the pResident himself as well as from those who officially represent him which statements reference what they all acknowledge as that website “copy” of the man’s claimed to be “official” birth certificate underline what the man is officially using for the public to be convinced of the story of his birth. You may call it a campaign copy; he is standing by it as something officially representing his story of his birth. He has personally acknowledged that THAT representation is to be the proof of his eligibility. (of course even with that he demonstrates his ignorance of the original intention within the Constitution itself re: eligibility for “his” office. And with all of the rule changing by the HI DOH since that specific public reference to his birth circumstances there is established a type of evidence revolving solely around and for the protection of THAT IMAGE.

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  114. The enemy is Obummer and his ilk, not jbjd.

  115. ….and if it is proven that his Selective Service registration was forged and he never registered for the draft?

  116. CW……………..
    Is it possible that dates are not being considered in the JBJD argument. Everything that relates to the alleged Soetoro BC seems to ignore the date in which all of this occurred. As you must know it all allegedly occurred in August of 1961, therefore the laws existing at that time are enforceable today. If a Certifiable LFBC existed AFTER August 4 1961 then it is more than reasonable to expect that document to exist today in it’s ORIGINAL form,and NOT need to be extracted from a multitude of alleged databases,as an abstract. That is all CLEAR and UNADULTERATED BS. The HDOH needs to be placed under a COURT order to PRODUCE a CERTIFIED COPY of the ORIGINAL LFBC which was allegedly issued by HDOH. If they cannot produce an exact copy then NO SUCH DOCUMENT EXISTS. The long and the short of their argument is pure and simple bullshi#. They are stalling for a reason….that reason is that NO LFBC ACTUALLY WAS EVER ISSUED IN 1961. Fact is fact and no amount of distraction will change HISTORY. If they Cannot produce a PHOTOSTATIC COPY of the ORIGINAL THERE IS NO ORIGINAL. Frankly I don’t care what the BEST PUPILS have to say. Their words cannot change the past.

  117. Kiltie…………..
    ………but there are people who for their own ego support would bend,twist, or otherwise alter the laws to make them appear as the truth. Perhaps it would be useful to refer you to the so called JUSTIAGATE. If these people will alter the PAST SCOTUS findings then they will attempt to twist ANYTHING,and EVERYTHING to make it sound reasonable. I call them OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS. They have a habit of showing up EVERYWHERE. To these people LEFT is indeed preferable to the right, and up is down is the creed they follow.Of course this is my own opinion,and is no way meant to assail anyone who happens to have an opinion to the contrary.

  118. Pete | March 30, 2012 at 10:20 am |

    jbjd,
    I think people here aren’t communicating well with you. Legally, you are correct in that Obama and his Administration would claim (when confronted) that the released LFBC was nothing but campaign material, and thus does not represent ‘fraud’. I would add that it would then be OBVIOUS to Americans that Obama does not now, nor never did qualify as NBC. I use a now famous paraphrase quote “People who have nothing to hide don’t hide everything” Indeed, if they understood the concept of ‘campaign materials’ as an excuse for forgery of a official document, it could lead to bloodshed. I can hear calls for violence against lawyers for trying to defend this type of Constitutional destruction and subversion, when the mobs gather upon discovering the depth of the deception.

    Honestly, I see a game of chess in which the pieces have moved on the board and slowly the game is turning in favor of those whom are trying to defend the Constitution.
    ********************************************************************
    Yes; I keep saying, this is a game of cat and mouse. They know I figured out not only what they did but more importantly, how they did it. There is a reason the D.C. stats for my blog were astronomically high as compared to my overall stats.

  119. A Crazy Old Coot

    Amen OldSalt. He must be “forced” by a court to produce a certified true copy or get out of the country. HI. Wanted to become a state of the Union and therefore should respect the requirements of the Constitution and not hide inportant facts concerning the election or certification of a President. So far, all they have done is cover up Mr. obama’s lack of eligibility. Maybe HI. doesn’t really want to be a state, so let’s kick them out and let them be a part of Asia as obama already believes them to be.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  120. JeffM1776…………..
    Great stuff! This is material which our OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS might not even know exists. Keep researching Jay’s,and Hamilton’s exchanges. Who knows you might find something which might verbally equate with a 100 megaton nuke with respect to our problem at hand.

  121. Old Coot……………
    With regard to Hawaii being like an Asian entity, all you need to do to confirm the allegation is take a long and close look at all of the Japanese names that appear at places like HDOH,and in the Hawaii court system as well. (reference; Fukino, Okubo, Nishimura, Onaka) all Japanese origin. I spent a few months at Pearl and I could make a HELL of a list of Japanese names that came to Hawaii both BEFORE,and after WW2. They are among the most corrupt of all officials. I tend to believe that it is a question of MORALITY.

  122. Why Does The Department Of Homeland Security Need 450 MILLION Hollow Point Bullets?

    Somebody out there has decided that the Department of Homeland Security needs a whole lot of ammunition. Recently it was announced that ATK was awarded a contract to provide up to 450 MILLION hollow point bullets to the Department of Homeland Security over the next five years. Is it just me, or does that sound incredibly excessive? What in the world is the DHS going to do with 450 million rounds? What possible event would ever require that much ammunition? If the United States was ever invaded, it would be the job of the U.S. military to defend the country, so that can’t be it. So what are all of those bullets for? Who does the Department of Homeland Security plan to be shooting at? According to the U.S. Census, there are only about 311 million people living in the entire country. So why does the Department of Homeland Security need 450 million rounds of ammunition? Either this is an incredible waste or there is something that the Department of Homeland Security is not telling us.

    I could understand if the U.S. military was ordering ammunition in this quantity. When you fight wars you can go through ammunition very rapidly.

    But the Department of Homeland Security is only supposed to be shooting at people very rarely.

    It simply does not make sense that they would need so much ammunition.

    The following is an excerpt from the official press release about this deal between ATK and the Department of Homeland Security….

    But this is not the only kind of ammo that the DHS is placing an order for.

    Business Insider is also reporting that the Department of Homeland Security is seeking to buy 175 million rifle ammunition rounds….

    more: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/why-does-the-department-of-homeland-security-need-450-million-hollow-point-bullets

  123. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    No JBJD, I didn’t “bother” myself to read your articles on your OPINION of how things are, but what I DID do, is use my brain that the good lord gave me and came to a REASONABLE conclusion,

    That being:

    If a candidate is on a ballot in ANY State, then that candidate would be eligible to hold the office they are running for.

    The eligibilty requirements for President and Vice President should be the SAME for EVERY State.

    The eligibility requirement should be confirmed at a NATIONAL level.

    Whether that candidate gets ON a ballot is a different issue (in other words, what the candidate would be required to DO to be on the ballot, for example voter signatures), but the ELIGIBILTY should be the same accross the board.

    And Obama doesn’t meet the REQUIREMENTS to be President, which is born of citizen parentS on US soil (a natural born citizen), being at least 35 years old, and lived in the Country for the last 14 years.

    No gibber jabber needed.

  124. Observer……………..
    I would suspect first of all that they are planning on becoming the SOLE law enforcement entity on this continent. Which translates to their no longer being a local,county,or state law enforcement bodies. It is planned that it will all be agents of DHS. Makes no difference though,if a 1776 type of revolution would occur it would be the DHS agents who would be at the receiving end from rifles of TRAINED COMBAT VETERANS. Make no mistake about it though,BLOOD WILL BE FLOWING IN THE GUTTERS FOR BOTH SIDES……………NEEDLESSLY,and SIMPLY because there is a RE BIRTH OF NAZIISM on earth,and they are still trying to create the MASTER RACE, of SUPERMEN. Just take a long look at where the last band of NAZI SUPERMEN are now RESTING. They will ultimately be joined by the MODERN DAY “SUPERMEN” AS WELL.

    “YA VEE ISS DER SUPERMEN”………………..yeah sure!…….HAR DE HAR!

  125. It would not surprise me at all if soon our ALLEGED POTUS tried to call himself Lenin # 2. Or perhaps Stalin 2. I think that Sopetoro has a homosexual facsination with such people.

  126. Admire you, old salt, and trust your judgment completely, as I do most all of the bloggers on this site, and, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, I am blunt to a fault and now too old to change. I suppose since I am not smart enough to add to the dialog myself, I shouldn’t try to direct the narrative. Be assured, I have previously read the reworded past SCOTUS rulings, most definitely regarding the “natural born” issue, and most likely on here, as well as other favorite sites. Old Salt for President!

  127. Hey IB………….
    You got it…….right on the money. But I would add another requirement…………..The candidate must possess a history which includes MILITARY SERVICE, either at officer,or enlisted level. He/she must possess PROVEN SINGULAR ALLEGIANCE,and be psychologically fit for the highest office. After all in the military our officers are put through a fitness exam periodically,so it would seem that the same should be required for the CINC.

  128. Noonan may be arriving late to the party of those who have always had this guy’s number, but she still seems to remain pretty clueless about what’s really going on and the guy’s real intentions:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

  129. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Zach – Here is the email address for Cong. Paul Ryan at his House Budget Comm. He’s the Chairman –

    Phone: 202.226.7270
    Email: Budget.Republicans@mail.house.gov

  130. It is difficult to ascertain exactly how many sworn agents exist within the DHS system but they number in the thousands. The ATK contract is not new but rather a renewal of an existing contract. DHS now also manages the federal officer training facilities which includes firing ranges.

  131. observer | March 30, 2012 at 10:21 am |

    jbjd:
    On the other hand, if you didn’t know that the WhiteHouse.gov site is just a blog, like CW’s; or that nothing posted there represents official government work;
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Well then, perhaps all of the recorded statements by the pResident himself as well as from those who officially represent him which statements reference what they all acknowledge as that website “copy” of the man’s claimed to be “official” birth certificate underline what the man is officially using for the public to be convinced of the story of his birth. You may call it a campaign copy; he is standing by it as something officially representing his story of his birth. He has personally acknowledged that THAT representation is to be the proof of his eligibility. (of course even with that he demonstrates his ignorance of the original intention within the Constitution itself re: eligibility for “his” office. And with all of the rule changing by the HI DOH since that specific public reference to his birth circumstances there is established a type of evidence revolving solely around and for the protection of THAT IMAGE.
    **************************************************************************
    So what? There’s no law prohibiting a President from lying.

    No one who has certified the President’s eligibility in documents to the state S’soS has claimed, this was the basis for that determination. (And this includes the documents submitted for the 2012 ballot. If the state party chairs believed this long form on-line document meant anything, don’t you think they would have cited this as the basis for their certification? Again, when claiming the document is ‘real’ could subject anyone to criminal sanctions; no one claims, the document is real.)

  132. Old Salt…..good morning….I see you are busy today

    You should get an A+ on your blog at 10:53am reference; Obama’s Hawaiian LFBC…and you are also right on spot when you say that NO AMOUNT OF WORDSMITHING (ie. jdjb) can distract from simple logic.

    If Hawaii has a legal birth certificate for the usurper, then they must be forced to show it…otherwise, Mr. Obama has no legal birth certificate and he is an alien…

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why some people try to “muddy the waters” and attempt to insert something into a discussion that doesn’t exist.

    Either Obama has… or doesn’t have a legal bona fide birth certificate issued to him from the state of Hawaii dated 4, Aug. 1961…….or he doesn’t have.

    If he does have such document, then case closed…….if he doesn’t have such document, our government has been taken over by an outside interest and I predict that all hell will eventually break loose.

    In common language that you and I understand :
    BULLSH**T WALKS & FACTS TALK.

  133. Guess what………When Slick Willy lied to the Congressional Grand Jury regarding his little WH tryst with MMMSSS.BLUE DRESS,he was IMPEACHED. Luckily he had other SLIME Senators who saw fit to reduce the penalty to CENSURE. MMMMSSSS. WORDSMITH….see if you can REWORD that little piece of LIBERAL BULLSHi#. The impeachment documents still exist. But of course people who think UP is DOWN will try to say that Slick Willy was NEVER IMPEACHED, and have the audacity to think the rest of us will believe their CRAP as well. I get a real laugh when some of these people try to repeat the words of leaders in the past. Unless they read from the actual documents ( which the liberals will not do) they always substitute their own twisted and otherwise reworded manure in the hope of making everybody think that what they are passing off is the actual words of the leader. This is CLASSIC WORDSMITHING, by our own well known LOCAL WORDSMITH.

  134. To be honest, I don’t give a hoot what the legal experts say about WHO can challenge the eligibility of our presidents. This whole adventure has been one big farce from the start and it must be stopped.

    Come on, an obscure young nobody with virtually no civil accomplishments writes his autobiography. To what end does that justify? Who gives a rats azz about the life of this unknown.

    During the election year, can you name ANYONE without a radical or questionable past that came forward to speak of their relationship with obama during his early lifetime? Any physician, neighbor, acquaintance, girlfriend? The only names that those brave souls dared to dig up were swiftly swept under the carpet. Oh no, not a known communist Frank Marshall Davis…Not Louis Farrakhan, Not Reverend Wright, Not Rashid Khalidi, not the young socialist party, not Acorn, not Tony Rezko, etc. The list just goes on and on.

    The mere fact that the only documents we could uncover have questionable authenticity, and all the other documents have been sealed or scrubbed away should give any person in their right mind chills.

    Now we have a record of his actions as POTUS and this country has been turned completely upside down. We are divided as a people, we are brutalizing the great fortune 500 companies for being successful and making a profit (can you even imagine an evil corporation making a profit), we are sending very dangerous signals to our allies and silencing all terror-type actions. Our borders are wide open as we are arming the cartels and whatever Islamabots have joined them. We are giving away security secrets left and right, disarming our nuclear weaponry and disabling our missle defense systems worldwide. All the while, the economy is intentionally being destroyed.

    Wake up America and smell the danger. All this delivered to you from a virtual and well kept unknown.

    It doesnt matter what the legal experts say, this regime and their complicit media must be stopped or we will wake up one day and wonder who is left to help us.

  135. CWV……………
    Why would DHS purchase a large number of HOLLOW point ammo……….unles it is intends that it would be used against any body of people in a general up rising. Hollow points fragmentise and do a hell of a lot of physical trauma to the person who recieves one at 2200 FPS.

  136. Honor First……………
    Right on the money………BTW, wasn’t it Slick Willy who brazenly gave the Chinese our CLASSIFIED missile guidance technology? Wasn’t it Slick Willy who told the Chinese about our CLASSIFIED UNDERSEA LISTENING devices,and the exact location of each. Now we have a second Slick Willy who AIDS AND ABBETTS THE ENEMY .

  137. Honor First….BINGO….good write

  138. RMinNC | March 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |

    Old Salt…..good morning….I see you are busy today

    You should get an A+ on your blog at 10:53am reference; Obama’s Hawaiian LFBC…and you are also right on spot when you say that NO AMOUNT OF WORDSMITHING (ie. jdjb) can distract from simple logic.

    If Hawaii has a legal birth certificate for the usurper, then they must be forced to show it…otherwise, Mr. Obama has no legal birth certificate and he is an alien…

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why some people try to “muddy the waters” and attempt to insert something into a discussion that doesn’t exist.

    Either Obama has… or doesn’t have a legal bona fide birth certificate issued to him from the state of Hawaii dated 4, Aug. 1961…….or he doesn’t have.

    If he does have such document, then case closed…….if he doesn’t have such document, our government has been taken over by an outside interest and I predict that all hell will eventually break loose.

    In common language that you and I understand :
    BULLSH**T WALKS & FACTS TALK.
    ***************************************************************
    Now, tell us, what specific steps have you taken over these past 4 years which would establish a requirement that anyone running for President must first produce a birth certificate to appear on the ballot? (You can limit your answer to steps you have taken in your state.) For example, have you petitioned that the rule-making authority of the election officials (executive branch, not legislative branch) be exercised to promulgate those rules and regulations necessary to carry out the candidate ballot eligibility law? (Of course, if you live in a state without a ballot eligibility law, first, you must petition the legislature to enact this law.) (Remember, the Constitution does not require U.S. Senators or Representatives to be natural born.) Because it is this lack of such legal requirements which has produced a President whose Constitutional eligibility cannot be directly confirmed. That’s why attacking the eligibility issue indirectly is the only way to succeed in ‘outing’ ineligibility.

    Obviously, stomping your feet and spouting platitudes hasn’t accomplished what is your stated goal, which is to establish President Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for the job. Too bad you only focus on him; because even outing him will not prevent the election of an ineligible President the next time. Only shoring up the electoral system will. And attacking judges doesn’t enact new law. Attacking the law doesn’t amend its shortcomings. Attacking me can never take the place of devoting time and energy to understanding how our electoral system works and, when it does not work, how to fix it.

  139. …………I really don’t think that the WORDSMITHS can change all of that either………..probably because seeing our enemies with our technology makes our OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS really HAPPY. They think it is really great that our enemies are now on a par with the US militarily. This is one of the reasons why these people should be looked upon as traitors to our country. But like anything else there is always a NEGATIVE aspect, which hopefully will cause those who sell out the US to fall into an open manhole, break both legs, ingest a mouthfull of excrement, and NEVER BE SEEN OR HEARD FROM AGAIN.

  140. oldsalt79 | March 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
    I was one of those typical ignorant citizens that trusted the government at that time. I was not aware of slick willy’s treasonous acts. In fact, it was during his impeachment hearings that I finally woke up and realized just how ignorant I was.

    Now that we have bill, jr continuing these horrendous acts, I find those in this administration to be blatant in your face liars. They go before congressional hearings and either outright lie, mislead or take the 5th. It appears to me that they know they can get away with it.

    One only needs to look at the fast and furious case, the BP oil spill, the New Black Panther case, Solyndra and MF global to name a few. Records are being withheld or redacted. Peolple are conveniently forgetting things
    under oath, lying or misleading. This is just insane! It is so blatant and outrageous, yet they are getting away with it. Either no one cares or they are too scared to do anything about it. Either way, I pray someday we will finally have our day in court and justice will be served.

    Until then, I continue to marvel at all the hard work and effort you people here have given to stop this madness. God bless ya’ll.

  141. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    oldsalt79 – Just got through watching an interview on MSNBC??? with General George Patton’s grandson Ben promoting his new book – ‘GROWING UP PATTON: REFLECTIONS ON HEROES, HISTORY AND FAMILY WISDOM’-

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-blaze-exclusive-preview-growing-up-patton-reflections-on-heroes-history-and-family-wisdom/

    As long as I live I will remember his quote –

    “Politicians are the lowest form of life except for Liberal Democrats. They are the lowest form of politician!!!”

  142. jbjd
    “there is no law prohibiting a president from lying.”
    There is no law prohibiting a president from lying, however, there is a published “requirement” within the Constitution itself (the supreme law of the land) which dictates, unequivocally, the qualifications for office of president.
    Perhaps there is a lack of nexus between the law, and the application of the law(staes). It would appear, at least on the surface, that the Democrat committe saw perhaps, an exploitable venue existing within the document itself.
    I have written before about the problem (for the president) of “agency,”in ths instance, which appears to be created in the electoral language of most states, concerning exactly who will provide the certification (and the content of that certification) which qualifies a “candidate” for a particular national office. There is a time, if I am not mistaken, when an incumbent, for purposes of election and application of election law, becomes a candidate himself. In view of the foregoing, if an incumbent (or any other candidate) knowingly allows false information to legally qualify him/her for candidacy, is committing a fraudulent act. There would, additionally, appear to be a lack of nexus with regard to the enforcement of both state and national laws as they pertain to election fraud.

  143. JBJD…..

    I have a rule not to argue with idiots…..

  144. HEY MMMSSSS. IMPORTANT……..
    What makes you think that I would answer your childish gibberish in even 1 step? You should be surprised that I even saw fit to answer your “…….pertinent BOOK taught line of thought. I usually just chuckle and scroll on past your CRAP. If I want to know something specific regarding a legal issue I go to a FRIEND of MANY,MANY YEARS who is a Superior Court Judge. He is not a WORDSMITH. But most of all I have known him at a golfing level for over 30 years,and I trust his judgement. That is only one reason why I do not accept the stuff that you see fit to RECITE. If you know the law so well then WHY THE HELL HAVN’T you practiced it in the past……..or did you practice law, and perhaps there is a hidden reason why you allegedly now teach high school. Good lawyers make a lot more money than schoolMARMS, and somehow I get the feeling that WINNING gives you a real sick thrill. So simple reasoning tells me that you would have pursued a legal career…..if you could. Must be something else in the background. Oh well, it isn’t my business so I am out of here for now. The sun is shining and ti is about 65 degrees out doors. This is far better than typing stuff regarding a alleged legal fleegle. Have a great day MMMMSSSS. IMPORTANT.

  145. Different Presidents, A Different Corps

  146. jbjd | March 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
    Pretty soon now, hopefully, enough people will ‘get’ the fact, any images of President Obama’s birth certificates in the public domain are only part of a political advertising campaign, released to coincide with his general election campaigns, and protected by the 1st Amendment as to content, whether true; but of absolutely no use as identification documents. (And that the WhiteHouse.gov web site on which the ad using the image of a mock-up of a long form birth certificate, is being featured; is not an official government portal but a commercial web site run by Akamai, in Cambridge, MA.)
    ==========================

    I am no expert on the law but your premise in regard to the White House web site does logically seem to have merit.

    However, photocopies showing the “new” and “old” birth certificates as well as the white house’s legal correspondence with Hawaii’s department of health were handed out by White House press assistants in the briefing room on the day Obama’s long form BC was posted on the White House website.

    This certainly was NOT a campaign rally held in the White House as that would be against the law. Therefore, these documents handed out at the White House can NOT be construed as political advertising. They were presented in the White House at the request and in the presence of Barrack Obama.

    If one or both internet birth certificate documents are proven to be falsified would that mean Obama is complicit in fraud? Would that be considered a high crime and misdemeanor?

    Obama Birth Certificate Released By White House
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html

    Letters Show How President Obama Got His Birth Certificate
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/oshadavidson/2011/04/27/letters-show-how-president-obama-got-his-birth-certificate/

  147. ATTENTION ALL VETERANS AND TRUE CITIZENS…..PLEASE READ…….THIS IS IMPORTANT

    In 1946 in McMinn County, Tennessee, an incident occurred that is important to what is going on today across America. This is a TRUE story with REAL results.

    In 1936-38-1940 a powerful corrupt group of local crooks ran McMinn County. Each year a man by the name of Paul Cantrell always won the post of Sheriff.

    In 1942 he ran for State Senator and won and also won in 1946. He placed his handpicked his Chief Dpty Pat Mansfield to replace him in office as Sheriff and Mansfield won again in 1946.

    In each of these elections , fraud and ballot box stuffing was suspected and the citizens of McMinn County had appealed to the US Department of Justice for help. In all of their appeals, they received no response.

    In 1946, the veterans came home from the war and saw what was going on in their country and didn’t like it. They also saw the federal government would do anything to help them……so with the election of 1946, they helped themselves.

    After the election was over at the local post office, the Sheriff’s department stormed the voting place, shot a poll worked and confiscated the ballot boxes for “safe keeping” and took them to the sheriff’s office. You didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the sheriff intended to do with the ballots.

    Angered by the boldness of the sheriff, a group of returning WAR VETERANS numbering over 200, went to the local armory and took enough weapons to armed every veteran.

    They then surrounded the Sheriff’s office and demanded the ballot boxes be turned over to the group of veterans for safe keeping and open counting.

    CANTRELL and MAYSFIELD could not let that happen, so the shooting begain. Cantrell then requested help from the Governor and that help would be arriving within the hour. The veterans had to act soon and they did.

    They dynamited the building and all the people inside came out and surrendered to the VETERANS….The Rule of Law was restored in McMinn County, Tennessee.

    When all the smoke finally cleared, the crooks were in safe keeping awaiting trial, no charges were ever brought against the veterans who restored law to McMinn County Tennessee..

    THIS INCIDENT HAS BEEN MADE INTO A MOVIE FOR TV THAT WILL BE RELEASED SOON.

    It is called, “THE BATTLE OF ATHENS’ A true story. Details of this can be read at : RENSE.COM LOOK FOR THE STORY: “How the US Vets Broke a Criminal Local Government”

    So for all the Old Veterans who are now wondering why the federal government is buying up so much ammunition for the Department of Homeland Security….you have your answer.

    THEY SAY THAT HISTORY NEVER REPEATS ITSELF, BUT I REALLY BELIEVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THIS MAY BE WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL ACROSS AMERICA.

    I pray this never happens, but when people are pushed to their limits, the veterans step forward.

    In 1946, I was a 10 year old boy living in a country not far from where this happened. This story has deep meaning to me for as a boy, I had heard rumors of the problems in McMinn County. It was a bad place to go….but the old soldiers coming home form one war put their country back on track…….Thank God and Thank God For Veterans !

  148. Cabby…

    You may publish the most recent blog of mine if you wish…this is a story that all America should kn ow about.

  149. Cabby…if you elect to use this blog, please correct my spelling errors…I was in a hurry and didn’t proof read….sorry.

  150. Waiting for the outrage, protests and all night news coverage that people were killed in Chicago last night. What? Silence? No outrage? They could be Obama’s children too. Massive hypocrites.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/30/Hoodie-Wearing-Gunmen-Kill-1-Wound-5-in-Rushs-Chicago-District

  151. Corrections to my blog at 2:28pm

    the word country should read county
    the word form should read from

    Please go to RENSE.COM and read the story and watch a 15 minute trailer of the movie….you will want to stand up and cheer !

  152. I believe that forgery isn’t just lying or “campaigning”. I believe it’s a felony.

    The United States Criminal Code has 45 different statues that cover frauds like forgery and counterfeiting, so an experienced criminal lawyer with this specialized knowledge is necessary to defend a person against charges of forgery. The penalties for forgery can range from mild penalties like requiring the convicted person to repay the ill-begotten funds, a penalty known as restitution, to the severe like prolonged jail sentences. Assets can be seized and sold to repay stolen money, and often are in high-value forgeries. Lower value forgeries will often require restitution and small jail terms, or even just time served from the time of arrest until the conclusion of the case.

    But most penalties for forgery will include a combination of restitution and jail time, the length of which depends on the severity of the crime. First offenses for smaller amounts of money will receive the more lenient sentencing. No matter how small the crime, though, a person convicted of forgery will have felony criminal record.

    And there’s been an awful lot of “stolen” money involved in this case. So thanks for just “campaigning” with the phony document on your wh “blog” site for your “campaign” purposes. You’ve thus allowed it to be examined since youve claimed otherwise yourself that it is a copy of your original! Stupid is as stupid does.

  153. I would relish the day that the public defense to the press became “its not against the law, it’s a campaign advertisement.”

  154. JBJD:

    So what? There’s no law prohibiting a President from lying.

    No one who has certified the President’s eligibility in documents to the state S’soS has claimed, this was the basis for that determination. (And this includes the documents submitted for the 2012 ballot. If the state party chairs believed this long form on-line document meant anything, don’t you think they would have cited this as the basis for their certification? Again, when claiming the document is ‘real’ could subject anyone to criminal sanctions; no one claims, the document is real.)
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Once again, as happens so often in your rather repetitive replies to various comments, that reply had absolutely nothing to do with the facts of my comment.

    There have been many claims, in various forms, from official gov. depts. that this “copy” represents what exists as the original and that includes he who occupies the highest office and his official representatives. There is an abundance of evidence of such claims. They have arisen in a crescendo of rebuttals to those inquiring. You appear to be stuck on a minute portion of the whole like someone who stops to pick up a thread from the floor while the house burns.

    If the state party chairs believed this long form on-line document meant anything, don’t you think they would have cited this as the basis for their certification?

    A, duh, just the opposite….they DO know of the relevant and evidenced claims against it and that’s why they, all of them, stay away from it like it contained the plague for the politically placed. They’re not in politics for nothin, sweetie! BTW, they ARE admitting that it is real by certifying the eligibility without reference to the various charges of fraud…so they don’t appear to be too scared of your “criminal sanctions” for doing so.

    The man himself has “certified” what he has presented and continues to claim to this day that they are “certified copies” of the original document needed. You don’t need SoSs or party chairmen when there is a forgery committed! Yours is an exercise in futility. It is not a product within the atmosphere only….it is a material fact committed to reality. IOW, it’s more than just your little rationale of ethereal “lying”.

    Your rather small and constant focus to “solve” the problem is bound by its very makeup to get tangled in the web of bureaucratic political maneuvering. If you don’t see that you’re as divorced from reality as the various ivory tower “experts” who have been placed in positions of authority over real world agencies. And we continue to see how their other universes don’t work in the real world when tested!

    Those here, whom you often denigrate as merely criticizing judges and the law, only criticize those judges who abandon that law…as in becoming atty for another atty and defendant under a case brought before him who fail to show up for hearing…not the law, because they ARE defending the current law not criticizing it as you yourself do by justifying such actions taken in order to circumvent the law, instead of joining in the criticism of such. People here (as you yourself) could be subject one day to just such politically interested judges who refuse to hold all citizens to the same laws. THAT has been so often the failure here….not people’s lack of reliance upon political hacks within party politics to further your ideal outside of their own political interests. Believe me that won’t happen!

  155. Observer…

    Your last two blogs have been great, but may I give you a little advice from an old man?

    Make your self a rule not to argue with idiots. It will save you a lot of time.

  156. Observer,
    Can I just say I’m so proud of you and so glad you’re on our side? I’m no lawyer but you cut through JBJD’s bullsh!t with a butter knife!

  157. sueQ……

    Dear you don’t have to be a lawyer to cut through jbjd’s bullsh**t….just a little common sense puts her lawyering theory to rest.

  158. Considering what happened with the open microphone a few days ago…this is scarey. This article was written in Jan. 2012
    http://www.thecomingattack.com/

  159. marmar4life | March 30, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    Considering what happened with the open microphone a few days ago…this is scarey. This article was written in Jan. 2012
    http://www.thecomingattack.com/
    **************************
    Marmar, I tried to go to the site above, but for the first time in my short-term computer experience, I received a “Malware” warning. So I backed off.
    Could you give me the gist of what you read? Thanks.

  160. RMinNC,
    Thanks – I would like to post that story over at Patriots for America and will do so a bit later this evening. You’ve been on a roll today from what I’ve read, and I do appreciate your comments about the legal issues raised. I entered the fray in the wee hours of this morning because I couldn’t keep quiet.

  161. haha Cabby…. thats perfectly OK….that seems to be the biggest problem citizens have in America today….99% are just too quite.

    If you like the article about the Vets and want to post it, would you please edit my spelling, I forgot to do that before I pushed the post comment…..I just types what I felt and hit the button.

    It is a true story, and one that occurred very close to my boyhood home, so it has a deep meaning for me. However it is a story every American should get involved with. If a local government can be corrupt, then a state government can, and that can be followed by the federal government.

    Corruption knows no bounds…it you go to the site I noted, please watch the 15 minute movie trailer……I’ll bet you a cup of coffee you will stand up and cheer !

    I can’t wait for the movie to come out.

  162. RMinNC | March 30, 2012 at 6:52 pm |

    sueQ……

    Dear you don’t have to be a lawyer to cut through jbjd’s bullsh**t….just a little common sense puts her lawyering theory to rest.
    _______________________
    Agree. Lawyers are highly over rated. Take care.

  163. jacqlynsmith

    LINDSEY WILLIAMS ABOUT FINANCIAL COLLAPSE THIS YEAR, ALASKA OIL AND OBAMA RE-ELECTION

    Date: Friday, 30-Mar-2012 15:54:29

    From:

    http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/

    Hour: 4
    9:00: Lindsey Williams – The Ruling Elite

    mms://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/radioliberty/032712a.mp3

    His new, concerned elitist friend is past seventy, and is concerned about his own family and the future of the US. His name is Tom Fyler, he is a Wall Street insider who was there for many years, now older gentlemen, with whom Williams was brought in touch about a year ago. He become so concerned about corruption in Wall Street that he could not stay there any longer.

    Recently Fyler told Williams that financial collapse did not happen when Greece become all but bankrupt because elite is not ready yet.
    There will not be financial collapse in April, May, and probably not in June. They are intentionally holding-off the financial collapse until they create such a massive debt in this world that once they do allow the collapse to take place in every country in the world they can immediately step-in and say: “Your currency has failed. You have to take our New World Order, and our new world currency because you have no choice.”

    Mr. Fromm, a recently passed away elitist friend of Mr. Williams about year ago told him about future oil price changes, that dollar will be dead by the end of 2012, and that there is no point in paying any attention to the stock market as it is not an indicator of anything. Indicators of dollar collapse are three things that happened in past 2 months:

    – China and Japan signed a largest trade agreement that has ever been signed in the history of the world which states that they will not use US dollar for mutual trade
    – Iran and India will trade oil for gold
    – Saudi Arabia signed agreement with China that they will build a refinery in China and Saudi Arabia will supply China with crude oil and they will not use US dollar for the trade

    And now BRICK countries (Brazil, India, Russia, China) consider constituting their common trade bank.

    This means that in this cases the petro dollar will be not be needed, and that this countries will have no use T bills that FED issues either.

    There is nothing that ever happens by chance. Nothing happens by chance in the price of gasoline, crude oil, nothing happens by chance with any bill that goes thru Washington DC, everything is by design. Every President of the USA since Ronal Reagan has been put in and trained by the elite. This elite has a code of ethics that requires that they tell you what they will do to you before they do it. In this way if you do nothing then they consider you accept that what they want to do to you.

    You can know when the financial collapse is about to take place not by the stock market, not by the EURO, nor by the crude oil prices, you will know it by the derivative market. There is no government control upon derivatives. When the derivatives market begins to crumble you had it.
    And it will happen before you see stock market crash. It will happen before you see EURO, and two weeks later US dollar crash. It will happen before you see some things happen in crude oil.
    If you are not out of paper when derivatives start to crumble, you will loose it.

    Derivatives are insurance polices on financial purchases whose purpose is to ensure that purchased instruments (such like T bonds) will be bought back. Banks that issue such contracts usually have nothing to back them up with. They were conceived in ’80 to bring the world’s financial system down.

    Tom Fyler said to Williams that Mr. Obama may not be re-elected in November because of the Keystone pipeline elite must have to bring the oil from Alaska down to the US market before the end of the next Summer, and the old pipeline is worn so thin that it wont carry pressure of required quantities of oil that must be transported. According to Williams, Mr. Obama double-crossed the elite by cancelling out the Keystone pipeline saying, after a two weeks delay, that “It is not to the advantage of the US to have a Keystone pipeline”. Williams said that he called his elitist friend, Mr. X, who said to him that Obama cancelled the pipeline because “he is a Muslim”.

    Recent events related to racial tensions, and birth certificate could be related to activities mentioned during the interview above.

    IZAKOVIC
    http://www.deepspace4.com

  164. SueQ | March 30, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    Observer,
    Can I just say I’m so proud of you and so glad you’re on our side? I’m no lawyer but you cut through JBJD’s bullsh!t with a butter knife!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Well, thanks. Just some “observations” from the peanut gallery!

  165. Recall the commie lady’s remarks about the groomed to be first “chocolate” baby U.S. pResident who would renew world communism…from interview with Tom Fife relating to his farewell dinner in the former Soviet Union back in 1992? And now we have also the recent report by the Ayers’ former mailman….also saying Obama, whom he met, said he WOULD be pResident and also stating that that certainty was also around 1992.

    Is Barack Obama A Soviet Spy?

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-barack-obama-a-soviet-spy/?utm_source=Western+Journalism&utm_campaign=9ce28d3a1a-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email

  166. Observer….

    i heard of, and read, Tom Fife’s story in mid 2007 while Obama was still a Senator running for POTUS. Fife sounded logical to me at that time. But his story never got traction and was never verified. Now perhaps this is something Sheriff Joe could use…..

    I have always wondered about Obama’s secret trip to Afghanstain/Pakastain in the 80’s….I wonder if this was planned so he could meet his handler(s)….I also wonder how many trips he has taken out of country that we don’t know about.

    If we can’t get the federal authorities to give the citizens a simple thing as a valid birth certificate form…logic would tell us there’s is a whole lot in Obama’s past that would “sink his boat” if the public was made aware of it. As it stands right now, all valid evidence says he is an alien who is under the protection of our federal government…What a shame.

    There’s just too many blank pages in this guy’s book of life…and here lately the Russian government is openly supporting his reelection….I wonder why?

  167. P.S……….

    Reader’s should remember it wasn’t until 15 Feb 1989 that the SOVIETS pulled out of AFGHANSTAIN/PAKASTAIN……after a nine year war where they took a beating. This was what actually caused their economy to collapse.

    Obama was supposely in that area when the Russians were still there. But not on an American Passport, an Indonesian one.

  168. Whistleblower

    CW

    This is getting interesting !

    Does the Sun Times have a lawsuit accusing the McMahon’s of fraudulent contracting practices?

    http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/03/30/does-the-sun-times-have-a-lawsuit-accusing-the-mcmahons-of-fraudulent-contracting-practices/

  169. Sorry. Couldn’t help myself :)

  170. Good night all…the bugle has sounded “lights out and taps”….

    The honorable First Sergeant (my wife) of this outfit, of which I am a member in good standing, has just turned the light switch off……

    It’s hard to type in the dark, soooooo…. I guess I will count some sheeples.

    “If the good Lord is willing and the creek don’t rise”, I’ll be back online tomorrow.

  171. What exactly are Obama’s friends like Code Pink, Wright and Ayers doing joining the Hamas protests on Israel? The media is silent on this too. While Obama is busy playing footsie with Putin, he is causing trouble for Israel again. Why any American Jew would vote for him at this point is beyond me.

  172. cabbyaz | March 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    Jonah, after reading that diatribe by misstickly last month, I have lost respect for her and really question her motives, sad to say. Her cannibalizing others in the movement in that manner does not commend her or her work. Just my opinion…..
    =========================
    I’ve had a few disputes with MT at freerepublic and here at cw so I’m well aware of her noxious nature. A few regulars here even turned on me because I disputed some of her “research”.

    Cabby, are you aware of how to contact Arpio’s cold case posse? I’d like to send them some information.

  173. Jonah,
    I just pulled this off the net and am not sure it is valid now:
    Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office at: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, Arizona, 85087.

    This is from the Sheriff’s website and would be to him directly:
    If you would like to write to the Sheriff or any of the commanders here, our address is:

    100 West Washington
    Suite 1900
    Phoenix, AZ 85003

    Important Numbers
    Sheriff Arpaio:
    (602) 876-1801

  174. WILL OBAMA DEFY SUPREME COURT IF OBAMACARE IS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL?
    (quote)
    Should the Court find the mandate unconstitutional and perhaps take down the entirety of ObamaCare, an assault will be launched against the voting justices, the legitimacy of their ruling, and the credibility of the Court itself. Obama’s media advocates will claim the usual victim classes of women and minorities to have once again been oppressed by the Right.

    And Obama himself will pledge to fight the Supreme Court ruling for the good of the people always most sorely abused by the politics of the Right—blacks! Claims of genocide and racism will be repeated by the White House and Democrats in Congress. And their media “echo chamber” will make certain that the phony message is received across the nation.

    http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/will-obama-defy-supreme-court-if-obamacare-is-ruled-unconstitutional/

  175. >>>RMinNC
    There’s just too many blank pages in this guy’s book of life…and here lately the Russian government is openly supporting his reelection….I wonder why?<<<<

    RMinNC,

    I have been torn between several though lines on this for years. The first:

    "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."
    Napoleon Bonaparte

    Makes the case that Obama is just simply incompetent.

    The option that Obama may have been a Spy is consistent with recent world history. Stalin was a criminal who used his talents for the underground Lenin by robbing banks. Benito Mussolini was paid off by MI5, and had a criminal past before rising to power from Socialist to Fascist (same difference). Adolf Hitler was PAID by German intelligence to infiltrate the workers party after WWI, participated in criminal activity, and went on to lead the workers party which became the NAZI's.

    Therefore, I feel that it is likely that Obama has a connection to a Secret Service (in this case the CIA seems most likely), has a criminal past (which is why records are sealed), and represents a similar danger to those quoted above.

    Pete

  176. Cabby,

    Thanks for the Arpaio contact info. But I learned that he is already aware of the information I wanted to share. Maybe I’ll send him a bouquet of flowers instead, to show him how much we appreciate his courage. Won’t be sending it to the P.O. box though. Don’t want the flowers to get crushed cramming them into the little box. : -)

    I so appreciate your help.

  177. “For the month of March, CNN was down -50% in total viewers and down -60% in A25-54 viewers (Total Day). The net was down -21% in Total Viewers and down -26% in A25-54 viewers (Primetime) compared to March 2011.”

    The viewer exodus is not limited to CNN, though. Roger Ailes’ aging heavyweight champion FOX News “was not immune to a loss in viewership for the month of March and for the first quarter of 2012. For the month, Fox News is down -17%,” according to another post by Ariens.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/wait-did-cnn-just-lose-half-of-its-viewers-2012-3#ixzz1qZBwFeGV

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