Bret Baier Fox News Natural Born Citizen error, Fox motivation for media line?, Have Obama thugs threatened Fox?, Supreme Court must clarify

Bret Baier Fox News Natural Born Citizen error, Fox motivation for media line?, Have Obama thugs threatened Fox?, Supreme Court must clarify

“Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.”

“If then the courts are to regard the constitution; and the constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature; the constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply.”…Chief Justice Marshall opinion, Marbury Vs Madison

“If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation, for through this in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”…George Washington

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln

Bret Baier provided the following statements on the presidential requirement of Natural Born Citizen on Fox News May 1, 2012.

“Bret explains “natural born citizen” requirements for president and vice president”

“Many legal analysts and scholars agree with this take– and until the Supreme Court weighs in.. this is how the law is interpreted:

The Constitution requires that the president be a “natural born citizen,” but does not define the term. That job is left to federal law, in 8 U.S. Code, Section 1401. All the law requires is that the mother be an American citizen who has lived in the U.S. for five years or more, at least two of those years after the age of 14. If the mother fits those criteria, the child is a U.S. citizen at birth, regardless of the father’s nationality.

The brouhaha over President Obama’s birth certificate — has revealed a widespread ignorance of some of the basics of American citizenship. The Constitution, of course, requires that a president be a “natural born citizen,” but the Founding Fathers did not define the term, and it appears few people know what it means.

The law lists several categories of people who are considered American citizens at birth. There are the people born inside the United States; no question there. There are the people who are born outside the United States to parents who are both citizens, provided one of them has lived in the U.S. for any period of time. There are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is a U.S. national (that is, from an outlying possession of the U.S.), provided the citizen parent has lived in the United States or its possessions for at least one year prior to the birth of the child. And then there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for at least five years, two of them after the age of 14.

They’re all natural born U.S. citizens. That also includes people who are born in Puerto Rico and people who were born in states before they became states. Born in Hawaii in 1950, a decade before statehood? You’re a natural born U.S. citizen.

That is how legal experts interpret the “natural born” requirement.. and how you get that status is actually pretty open. Until the Supreme Court weighs in on this issue (and there are no plans that we know of that that will happen)… — to your emails… Senator Marco Rubio and Governor Bobby Jindal are both eligible to run and become Vice President or President.”

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/blog/2012/05/01/bret-explains-natural-born-citizen-requirements-president-and-vice-president

Bret Baier is correct about one thing, the US Supreme Court needs to clarify the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

The article starts out with some accuracy “Many legal analysts and scholars.”

This is true, there is much disagreement and debate.

However, the article ends “That is how legal experts interpret the “natural born” requirement”, implying a consensus.

Without getting into all the subtle intricacies of law and legal precedent, I will make this simple.

First, the framers of the constitution provided some clarity with this provision:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

A distinction is made between citizen and natural born citizen. Also, this allowed the founder fathers to be eligible and also children born from the time of independence to the adoption of the Constitution on September 17, 1787.

Chief Justice Waite, in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875):

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

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82 responses to “Bret Baier Fox News Natural Born Citizen error, Fox motivation for media line?, Have Obama thugs threatened Fox?, Supreme Court must clarify

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  2. citizenwells

    GOP USA is now quoting Bret Baier’s article.
    I just commented there.

    http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2012/05/01/natural-born-citizen-requirements/?subscriber=1

  3. IB,
    Been following your comments. I agree for the most part. Courage, friend.

  4. There has been a ‘push’ to change the NBC requirement for years from both sides. Now, it seems the effort is to just confuse the public. It’s difficult to determine whether Bret Baier is confused or is attempting to create confusion.
    ***********
    November 12, 2003

    “A foreign-born president?”

    “Mr. Hatch acknowledges what most scholars regard as the reason the Framers denied eligibility to naturalized citizens: concern that a foreign power might place someone inside the young and fragile nation and contrive to have that person elected president.

    But that concern, says Mr. Hatch, is hardly so compelling today. And so, he argues, the natural-born requirement shouldn’t be allowed to stand, especially not since it works in what the senator calls a “decidedly un-American” manner. By which he means that it’s unfair to naturalized citizens, because they are denied an “equal opportunity” to run for president; and unfair to us voters, because we are denied “every opportunity to choose” our leaders. Not surprisingly, Mr. Hatch calls his proposal the “Equal Opportunity to Govern” amendment.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003/nov/12/20031112-093409-8265r/
    ===========
    December 3, 2008

    “‘Natural-born’ requirement called ‘stupidest provision’”

    “An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on finance committee for a then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural-born” citizen, calling the requirement “stupid” and asserting it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

    The paper was written in 2006 by Sarah Herlihy, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate. Herlihy is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland & Ellis. A partner in the same firm, Bruce I. Ettelson, cites his membership on the finance committees for both Obama and Sen. Richard Durbin on the corporate website.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2008/12/82680/

  5. citizenwells | May 1, 2012 at 4:17 pm |

    CW, I just chimed in several times over there.

    It’s difficult arguing with someone who failed her 7th grade Civics class….

  6. Free Speech

    CW,

    Your article is quite clear and concise. It is also clear that SCOTUS is not going to hear a case on this issue before november. If bo is defeated and Gov Romney does not pick Senator Rubio or Gov. Jindal, then the issue is moot. If Gov. Romney wins with Senator Rubio or Gov. Jindal as his VP, I seriously doubt that SCOTUS will rule Rubio or Jindal ineligible.

  7. If people want the NBC requirement to be changed then there has to be an amendment to the Constitution voted on and ratified by the States. Any other way is illegal no matter how much people want to ignore or wish it away. There is a good reason that the NBC language was specific to the P and VP. And that good reason is just as good today. We must preserve what we have and keep our nation’s supreme laws, whole. imo.

  8. Interested Bystander

    SueQ,

    Thanks.

    CW,

    Thanks for the link to the GOP article.

    It’s good to see there are people who understand the requirements needed to be President.

    But we fight daily against those who are trying to (and succeeding) indoctrinate the masses.

    And as far as Obama’s Afghanistan visit, I see this as a publicity stunt, and nothing more.

    It will be a campaign ad come the September, October time frame.

  9. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    By Bret Baier’s definition then The USURPER is “White” as the mother determines the race of the child. AND if you look up Senate Resolution 511 you will see that it states -

    “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American CITIZENS on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it”

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text

    PS – Just watched on MSNBC the USURPER sign a document in Afghanistan which is worthless.

    MSNBC is the rectal thermometer for Potomac Fever and Chris Mat
    hews is the Nurse.

  10. Mario Apuzzo:

    “Fox News Is Spreading False Information on the Meaning of a “Natural Born Citizen””

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/05/fox-news-is-spreading-false-information.html

  11. Interested Bystander

    cjzak,

    It says alot about someone’s character and their ability to compromise their principles when they suggest they are willing to do what they have been screaming against for the last 4 years, simply to defeat the person who raised the issue in the first place.

    Two wrongs do NOT make a right.

  12. Free Speech

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2878674/posts

    Obama Visits Afghanistan, Will Make Televised Address Tuesday Evening [Free Campaign Commercial]

  13. Free Speech

    According to my estimate, at 7:30 p.m. (EST) it will be 4:00 a.m. (May 3rd) in Kabul.

    Bet the troops (who will no doubt be “ordered” to appear) are thrilled over that.

    16 posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:44:37 PM by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)

  14. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    As a follow-up on my last comment you may want to check-out these sites -
    “Constitutionalist Professor + Barack Obama”

    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Constitutionalist+Professor+%2B+Barack+Obama&oq=Constitutionalist+Professor+%2B+Barack+Obama&aq=f&aqi=q-A1&aql=&gs_l=hp.12..33i29.3629.27161.0.30387.42.37.0.5.5.0.198.3393.27j10.37.0…0.0.j4u99upj2LU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3a06c9010a32a30&biw=1333&bih=663

  15. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – About 207,000,000 results (0.48 seconds)

  16. Free Speech

    http://news.investors.com/article/609714/201204301828/bill-clinton-fundraises-for-president-obama-.htm

    Politics: The president who wagged the dog and let bin Laden get away raises millions for the president who jokes about eating one while taking credit for Osama’s death. A deal for Hillary as veep, perhaps?

  17. coldwarvet2

    When the other side is not going to play by the rules, then all bets are off.
    If obama gets another four years, and we had an opportunity to prevent it, then personal integrity will not count for much. One can carry that precept proudly ahead of them to whatever mode of destruction awaits them. Besides, when the principle of compromise becomes in itself a strategy against an unfair advantage, then, as there are no rules, (which was chosen in advance by the other side) the principle of personal integrity, when played against that advantage therefore becomes a gambit, or sacrifice to a higher cause. I can think of any number of analogies to support this.

  18. Free Speech

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/05/01/senator-marco-rubio-talks-to-bret-baier/

    Special Report ‘s Bret Baier spoke to rising politician Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL).

  19. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    FS – Just Google “The Clinton Chronicles”

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Clinton+Chronicles&oq=The+Clinton+Chronicles&aq=f&aqi=p-p1g1&aql=&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.12..35i39j0.2943.32945.0.40906.22.22.0.0.0.0.87.1319.22.22.0.

  20. Interested Bystander

    coldwarvet2,

    I’m sorry coldwarvet2, but I can NOT agree with this comment.

    This isn’t some game, this is real life, and electing someone evil, to get rid of someone evil, still means that we are Governed by evil.

    A “good” man doesn’t stoop to the opposition, a “good” man makes the opposition RISE to their level.

    But you have to START with a “good” man.

  21. Free Speech

    coldwarvet2 | May 1, 2012 at 5:53 pm |

    Well stated!

  22. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Maybe you should visit this site before making a decision:

    http://massresistance.org/romney/index.html

    Not sure who is responsible for this site, but it has references to the things written, which means they are researched.

  23. IB. The point is that the Republican party decision has already essentially been made. Unless Ron Paul pulls off some sort of miraculous comback, we are looking at a choice between Mitt Romney or Barack Obama with the possibility of a third party fringe candidate that has no chance. i Given the choice between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, I am choosing Mitt Romney. I hope that you will come to the same conclusion eventually. We need your vote.

  24. Free Speech

    http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/senator-clearly-trip-campaign-related-obamas-spent-past-three-years-gutting-our

    “Clearly this trip is campaign related. We’ve seen recently that President Obama has visited college campuses in an attempt to win back the support of that age group since he has lost it over the last three years.

    “Similarly, this trip to Afghanistan is an attempt to shore up his national security credentials, because he has spent the past three years gutting our military.”

  25. coldwarvet2

    IB
    The term “good man”, in this instance, and for these purposes, is rather vaque and non-descript. Politics, to those who choose to practice it, is most certainly a game, as much as any board game. Within our system, we have laws that govern the game. Those are the rules. As with any game, there will be winners and losers. Unlike some games, this one is for all the marbles. The stakes are unfathomable amounts of money and power. The kind of game we cannot afford to lose. I shouldn’t have to be telling you this.
    I personally would prefer not to have to play, but as there are certain dangers we all must face to live here, I find that, under the present circumstances, I am compelled to play. This being the case, I will do whatever I have to do to win. You appear to want to impart a personal viewpoint concerning the practice of personal integrity which I will not argue with. You imply that however, on a grand scale, there is some type of moral imperative involved which might actually override the need to preserve the Union. With that I cannot agree. This would leave us at an impasse individually, and that is OK, as there are always going to be differences in opinion.
    You also indicate that obama and Romney are somehow equivalent in terms of their political viewpoints. I will reserve my right to disagree with that position also. There is a vast difference between a free market capitalist, and a Bolshevik communist. I do not profess to know either of these people personally, but I do see the obvious differences, and additionally, the obvious dangers associated with the latter. I personally do not care if Romney ends up with ten aliens as running mates if it will forestall the loss of the Union for even a day. Hopefully, this will not be the case. Please don’t misunderstand when I say that Romney would not be my choice, if I had a choice, but it appears as this becomes more unlikely on a daily basis. If this position implies that I am not a “good man”, as you say, then so be it, but I DO consider myself a patriot and I additionally possess the pedigree to back that up.

  26. jacqlynsmith

    Please forward this to everyone you know…..

    The Sirius Documentary

  27. Free Speech

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2878698/posts

    OBAMA’S ONE-HIT WONDER: I SHOT BIN LADEN

  28. Free Speech

    j2j2 | May 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm |

    http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/17996036/bin-laden-said-to-have-wanted-obama-assassinated

    Tell him to stand in line???LMFAO
    —————————————————-
    What do you find so funny about the story that osama wanted bo assassinated?

  29. If any type of citizen is a natrual born citizen then Article II is superfluous and is moot. A natural born citizen is a full blooded American. c’mon.

    The Founding Father’s meant what they said. Its the point.

  30. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    El Presidente is about to Blah Blah Blah from you know where!

  31. Fox New is now paying tribute to the actor and chief Obozo for his unscheduled visit to Afganistan. Let’s remember that Cameron and Spealburg are consultants to Obozo’s campaign. This guy can turn on a dime, one day spiking the football next day unsung hero. Good luck America.

  32. Free Speech

    So now the coward bo is afraid to give his speech before our Troops.

  33. jacqlynsmith

    Excellent video. If you are still getting your news filtered and twisted from the gobbledygook-stream media you should watch this for an update on reality. Ron Paul is sweeping the majority of the delegates in the caucus states. Did you also know many of the Romney bound delegates are actually covert Ron Paul supporters? These delegates may strategically abstain from the first round of voting at the GOP convention, a tactic which will all but guarantee a brokered convention. If there is a brokered convention Ron Paul will win the GOP nomination….turn off the boob tube folks and go find the truth for yourself…..also….don’t listen to the propagandist here who think the DOC doesn’t have a chance…..

    Ron Paul WINNING State Delegate Majorities/Massive Turnout at Rallies

  34. Free Speech

    bo’s hidden hangar campaign stunt in kabul today reminds me of Baghdad Bob’s bullsh!te from the bunker in Baghdad. bo is now afraid to even come face to face with our troops in Afghanistan.

  35. All,

    This will go into auto-moderation as usual, but when it shows up, please read the latest from Ulsterman and the White House Insider. This little junket to Afghanistan was staged; it’s all a lie, like everything barky does.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/05/01/white-house-insider-aint-i-just-the-best-president-ever/

  36. Interested Bystander

    coldwarvet2,

    The “good” man I was referencing was the candidate, not the voter.

    I understand the delima you face.

    I am NOT going to compromise my principles to vote for someone I can not support.

    I am NOT suggesting that this is what you are willing to do, we each have to look at ourselves in the mirror every day.

    If you believe what you comment, then I am no one to argue with your points.

    They are valid.

  37. Free Speech

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/u-s-defense-secretary-is-afraid-of-u-s-soldiers/

    U.S. Defense Secretary is afraid of U.S. soldiers

    The media’s focus was/is on how a stolen truck, driven by an Afghan, sped onto a runway ramp and exploded at the British military airfield as Panetta’s plane was landing. Panetta is unhurt.

    But the real astonishing news is this:

    The U.S. military disarmed the U.S. soldiers among the 200 some people at Panetta’s speech in Camp Leatherneck — a practice never done before.

  38. Free Speech

    panetta ordered our Troops disarmed before he would speak before them. bo is afraid to be in the same building with our Troops.

  39. I believe the whole thing was staged.

    the dead give away was the mentioning (shout out) to Chicago in some future official capacity… how big was the check? and what’s the plan.

    he was talking to his base… selling the Afghan “war”…

    Bring our Troops Home, there are underground home grown terrorists in the Homeland wreaking havoc on Americans. making bombs, too.

  40. Interested Bystander

    Paxson,

    You are suggesting that there are only two VIABLE candidates, which I do NOT disagree with.

    No matter who I vote for, I will research to find the BEST person for the job.

    I really don’t care if they win or not. I would HOPE that they would, but I’ll know that I voted for the person I thought was best, and NOT for the lesser of two evils.

  41. jacqlynsmith

    As my family and I head to Sparks, Nevada please join the REVOLUTION in your state……THE REVOLUTION IS NOT BEING TELEVISED!!!

    WE ARE THE VOICE OF THE REVOLUTION….make your voice heard!!

    Ron Paul Keeps Winning as Supporters Prepare For a Battle With GOP Old Guard Gage Skidmore

    Four years ago, Nevada State GOP insiders so disliked Ron Paul supporters that they actually walked out of the state convention and turned off the lights behind them. In a windowless assembly room with some 2,000 people in it, one might imagine the terror this might cause. In what had been an otherwise orderly meeting, this move took place when it became clear that Ron Paul would sweep the Nevada delegation to the Republican National Convention. A bunch of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington types, inspired by Ron Paul, got involved in their party to effect change, and the party insiders didn’t like having these idealists around.
    This year looks a little different. Ron Paul’s supporters have assumed a significant portion of the Republican Party leadership and Ron Paul’s supporters seem like they will show up in droves as delegates to assure their candidate is the best represented in Nevada. At the Nevada Republican Convention this year, 25 of the 28 Nevada delegates will be decided.
    A showdown is ahead at the convention in the western corner of Nevada in the town of Sparks, where on Friday and Saturday, Ron Paul supporters will culminate their takeover of the Nevada GOP at all levels after being so brazenly rebuffed in 2008.
    That showdown will be between the old guard of the Nevada GOP – the Romney-supporting, McCain-supporting, Bush-supporting neo-conservative establishment – and the more numerous and active conservative and libertarian base of the Nevada Republican Party.
    Scheduled to speak the afternoon of May 5 at the state convention is Ron Paul himself.
    The harder and more violently the GOP establishment fights the organized grassroots of the Republican Party, the more fervently those grassroots seem to fight back. “Blowback” is how the CIA refers to this phenomenon when referencing political struggles abroad. That same type of blowback seems to be taking place across the GOP. Another notable recent example being in Alaska, where the conservative and libertarian base of the Republican Party are pushing back against a moderate and corporatist establishment.
    Alaska Republicans held a state convention last weekend that Politico hailed as “more evidence of the political maturation of the Paul forces, who are beginning to seize the levers of powers from within the state parties.” A Paul supporter was elected state chairman and Paul took at least a quarter of the delegates with him out of the Alaska Republican Convention. There is likely to be much controversy around this transition, however, as the Alaska Dispatch reports that the former state chairman took some $100,000 in party funds with him as he was removed from office by transferring it to a Republican organization that is friendlier to the state’s old guard.
    The more intense these fights get, and the more success Ron Paul’s supporters see, the more notice they are generating around the county. “I just came back from the national (Republican National Committee) meeting and everybody was talking about the Ron Paul, well-organized takeover,” said Heidi Smith, Nevada national GOP committeewoman.
    There is little question that Ron Paul is pushing hard for delegates and that his plan is starting to succeed. Focusing on delegates is the strategy that Barack Obama used with success against an opponent with greater name recognition. The strategy worked for Obama and it seems to be working for Paul. At the Republican National Convention on August 27 in Tampa, Paul will be a force to be reckoned with. The RNC convenes \to choose a nominee and conduct the business of the party. Like any meeting convened under Robert’s Rules of Order, it is the delegates of that meeting who are the ultimate authority.
    While the media and Republican establishment have concluded that a Romney-Obama race is a given, Republican voters do not yet seem to agree with that conclusion. After an estimated $80 million spent by the Romney campaign this election cycle and after five years of campaigning for the presidency, Romney has yet to appeal widely to Republican voters and bridge the divides in the party.
    Voters are still left, therefore, with a two man race for the Republican nomination – either a moderate challenger (Mitt Romney) running against an incumbent president, which has been an unsuccessful option since at least 1976, or an ideological challenger to an incumbent president (Ron Paul). In the years 1976, 1980, 1992, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2006, and 2008, national elections were either lost by moderates or won by principled candidates. It’s still not clear who the Republican delegates will rally around in 2012.
    To win on the first ballot at the RNC, Mitt Romney needs 1,144 delegates to vote for him. If he doesn’t get that, he ends up in an ugly scenario where a floor fight is sure to take place. If Colorado, Missouri, or Minnesota are any indication, Santorum supporters and the religious right are likely to side with Paul over Romney.
    National conventions are usually a coronation for an established candidate. That is not always the case, however. During a convention, anything can happen. Any political junky of a certain age remembers the drama inside and out of the 1968 Democratic convention. Political historians know that Warren Harding walked into the 1920 Republican National Convention with the support of only 7% of delegates, before being chosen as the Republican nominee at that convention on the tenth ballot, and elected president later that year.
    According to an unnamed party official, a less principled candidate may fare better in a brokered convention: “An important difference between Paul and Romney is that Romney can horse-trade by promising sweetheart deals, influential positions, and government contracts, should he be elected. Ron Paul has only the promise that he will work his hardest to scale back the unconstitutional growth of government…. [Paul’s] philosophy on the role of government may limit how influential of a horse-trader he can be.” Results over the last few weeks from states like Colorado, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Alaska tell us that that the Republicans don’t yet have a guaranteed frontrunner and guarantee us only one certainty at this point.
    On the floor of the RNC, in late August, on primetime television, the American people will watch a political drama unfold in which the Republican old guard tries to horse-trade its way out of the pressure that has built up around it for years. The Mr. Smiths of the Republican Party are angry and organized and have worked their way into the highest levels of the Republican Party. They are the delegates of the highest legislative body of the Republican Party – the RNC. They have voice and vote to change the direction, structure, and leadership of the GOP, and in 2012 the Mr. Smiths of the GOP seem to like Ron Paul a whole lot better than they like Mitt Romney.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/7722/ron-paul-keeps-winning-as-supporters-prepare-for-a-battle-with-gop-old-guard

  42. plus, he had to one up GWB from his moment with the Wounded Warriors.

    he couldn’t stand it. so he put this thing together. bs

  43. we need to clunk heads, think lanslide. and in the House, too.

    we need to unite and get a good cabinet together. who for AG/ DOJ 2012?

    we need to come together. soon.

  44. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Did Newt drop out of the race today?

    Can someone please inform me as to why the media is NOT covering the “other” candidate on the Republican primary ticket?

    Is it because he “has no chance”, or is it because they don’t want his message to get out?

    It seems to me that the media loves telling the public his positions on the issues, but they are UNwilling to let the man inform the public himself.

    I believe it is because they are MISrepresenting his positions.

  45. Interested Bystander

    One last thing and then off to work.

    Indiana’s primary is next Tuesday, and everyone knows who I will be voting for.

    When I vote, they will give me an “I Voted” sticker, and I will wear it proudly KNOWING that in my mind, I voted for the BEST person for the job.

    I won’t be voting for Lugar either.

  46. jacqlynsmith

    Here’s a Ben Swann’s Reality Check Special on the matter of the true delegate count, and GOP corruption:

    What the GOP needs to understand is that if Ron Paul gets shafted out of the nomination… we’re not stupid. We’ll vote accordingly. Romney’s ineptitude as a candidate aside, if he loses the support of the independents, the youth, & the alternative Conservative, Obama will have a 2nd term.

    If you want the GOP to win, hope and pray that Ron Paul wins the nomination in Tampa. It’s the only way the GOP has a chance against the political juggernaut Obama campaign. Ron Paul could be the David against Obama’s Goliath. Romney won’t. He’ll be a flip flopping soldier running into the mountains.

  47. jacqlynsmith

    Do you need any more proof that most REPUBS are just as filthy as most Demoncrats?

    Boehner Protects Eric Holder From Contempt Of Congress Citation…Again

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/speaker-boehner-protects-eric-holder-from-contempt-of-congress-citationagain/

  48. According to Bret Bair everybody who is born in the US is AUTOMATICALLY a “Natural Born Citizen”, whether one of his/her parents was an alien or not. Therefore ANYBODY can be eligible to run for POTUS.

  49. There was a comment on Facebook that mentioned the fact that Moochelle lost her law license because of some sort of extortion try on her part. Havn’t been able to get anything else, but I am looking,and am going to keep trying.

  50. jacqlynsmith

    David Wilcock has posted an update…….

    ARREST WARRANTS: Liens Filed Against G7 Central Banks

    Written by David Wilcock Tuesday, 01 May 2012 11:33

    http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1051-g7banks

  51. Free Speech

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/obama-gives-speech-from-bagram-soldiers-not-allowed-in/

    Two months ago during a speech by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta.
    US Marines were told to leave their weapons outside the tent.

    Tonight Barack Obama gave a speech at Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan.
    US soldiers were not allowed.

  52. jacqlynsmith | May 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm |

    Great video jacqlyn.

  53. ……..for anybody who is interested here is a link for Michelle Obama disbarrment.
    http://lealaxforpresident 2012. blogspot.com/2012/01michelle-obama-disbarred-for-extortion,html

  54. bob strauss

    Obama’s illegal usurping of the office of President is going to set an unwanted precedent for future elections if nothing is done to straighten out this mess.

    Future ineligible candidates will point to Obama’s circumstances and declare themselves eligible due to the way Obama was allowed to hold office. Not good for the future of the USA.

    SCOTUS is negligent when it comes to this matter of Obama’s eligibility.

  55. Free Speech

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2878809/posts

    There are 5 people in this picture, but who is that fool saluting?

  56. Bob Strauss too true what you say about setting precedent. It has been done with Obama and also McCain and it was intended to happen. The pstb tried it out to see if the people would object to their little change in the law of the land re NBC. Not enough of us did so they forged ahead with their illegal challenge to the NBC requirement and there sits Obama. ‘Past Practice’ (aka setting precedent) is a useful tool of contract law and unions. Not so useful when it is used to change our Constitution. We will have to vote Obama out to stop this and even then, I don’t trust the Repubs to protect this very vital part of our Constitution. They want their rising stars—Rubio, Jindal–to be allowed to become Pres. We the People are the only ones who can block the trashing of our Constitutional law. I just pray enough of us now know what’s going on. I fear there aren’t.

  57. Free Speech

    They say the last sad act of a clown who’s lost his audience is to drop his pants just as the lights dim as a desperate attempt to get the applause he yearns for. Looks like OBozo’s getting close.

    17 posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:08:24 PM by gusopol3

  58. OOOORAH!!!

  59. bob strauss

    cjzak,
    We are also stuck with Obama’s choices on the SCOTUS, Kagen and Sotomayer, that he was ineligible to nominate. The ramifications of this error will be with us for decades.

  60. Bob, yep. Very tragic result of an illegal Presidency.

  61. jacqlynsmith

    M. T. Keshe http://www.keshespace.com has now made his extraordinary technology available to all governments of the world, free of charge.

    On April 24th, 2012 an event was held by the Keshe Foundation to release their technologies, free of charge, to all world governments http://www.keshefoundation.com…f=2&t=2478

    This is a game changer, and it needs your and my efforts to make the general public aware of it, since the mainstream press will not tell the world about it. Please spread this information far and wide, as if your life depended upon it, because it just might.

  62. Although the mainstream media is predictably not reporting the connection between Occupy Wallstreet and the would-be bombers in Cleveland associated with Occupy Cleveland, the Cleveland media is at least reporting on this angle and not attempting to cover it up. And Occupy Cleveland cancelled some activities today and have taken down their website. Pretty interesting story at the link below.

    http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/243461/3/Occupy-Cleveland-condemns-bridge-bombing-plot

  63. Free Speech

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2878809/posts

    To: smoothsailing

    When I think of Obama flying at taxpayer expense to Afghanistan to give a speech to an empty warehouse to create footage for a campaign ad, I am reminded of the President in the film Idiocracy.
    Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho is the first professional wrestler and porn star to be elected President in the year 2505.

    Actually, I think we would be happier with Camacho in charge of our government than the current idiot.

  64. >>>>Free Speech ….Actually, I think we would be happier with Camacho in charge of our government than the current idiot.<<<

    I saw the movie. Camacho seemed to really love his country. So I would have to vote for Camacho if given a choice between him and Obama.

    Pete

  65. Free Speech

    Pete | May 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm |

    Yes the Camacho Administration was almost as weird as the bo regime.

  66. Dear Fox News:

    Please let Bret Baier know that he is wrong about natural born citizen. He gave a definition for US Citizen. A US Citizen is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. According to the Founders, the Constitution and the Supreme Court (Minor v Happersett), a natural born citizen cannot be defined by law, but is defined by NATURE. That is a person born in America of two US Citizen parents. Rubio and Jindal are not NBC. There remains some question regarding Romney and Santorum. Obama has admitted he is not NBC by sponsoring SR 511 which said McCain is NBC because he had two US Citizen parents; of course this was false because he was born in Panama and at birth had rights to Panamanian citizenship whether he exercised them or not. Obama had a British father and can never be NBC. He also held Indonesian citizenship.

    The issue is divided allegiance. Only a natural born citizen has no potential for a divided allegiance. Any one born with one non-US Citizen parent or who is naturalized, has a potential divided allegiance and cannot be the Commander in Chief. There is no confusion on this point except as raised by enemies of America.

    We expect more from Fox News. You have made a grievous error and placed our very liberties at risk. Perhaps that is what we ought to expect from a corporation controlled by foreign interests.

    Some months ago I ceased watching Hannity and O’Reilly because of their lack of faith in America and the Constitution. This latest error is so serious, I will stop watching Bret and will get Charles K’s comments elsewhere. I pray you continue to lose patriots as viewers.

    This is the greatest fraud and crime in the history of America, and you at Fox are aiding and abetting all the felons. Shame on every one of you who work at Fox. How can you sleep at night as you fail to report on those who would dismantle this great Republic?

  67. “$10,000 bounty offered online for Obama college transcripts”

    “A faceless organization calling itself “The Trenches” is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can provide an authentic copy of President Barack Obama’s course transcripts from his days at Occidental College, Harvard University or Columbia University.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/01/10000-bounty-offered-online-for-obama-college-transcripts/

  68. oldsalt79 | May 1, 2012 at 9:30 pm |

    ……..for anybody who is interested here is a link for Michelle Obama disbarrment.
    http://lealaxforpresident 2012. blogspot.com/2012/01michelle-obama-disbarred-for-extortion,html
    ************************
    oldsalt, I’m not able to get that link to cooperate.

  69. FS – Just Google “The Clinton Chronicles”

    And Clinton Casualties….the body count..with all this under your belt, is it no wonder the clintons kept quiet about the ineligibility …well, that and the death threat on Chelsey, duh.

    http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintbodycnt.html

  70. Free Speech | May 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm |

    j2j2 | May 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm |

    http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/17996036/bin-laden-said-to-have-wanted-obama-assassinated

    Tell him to stand in line???LMFAO
    —————————————————-
    What do you find so funny about the story that osama wanted bo assassinated?

    If explanation is needed, it would be wasted time on the questioner!

  71. Good morning CW, et. al. – Disappointing about Bret Baier. Need to make suggestions about panel of experts participates (Titus). Bret has a twitter account.

    American Thinker has a great article today. This young girl’s story should be sent to Representatives. She should be praised near and far.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/black_teen_run_off_the_liberal_plantation.html

  72. Pingback: Bret Baier Natural Born Citizen update, May 2, 2012, Baier show coming with possible panel of constitutional scholars, No mention of Obama deficiency | Citizen WElls

  73. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  74. Tweeted Bret just now.

    @BretBaier Attorney Herb Titus is a good selection for NBC panel. US Code not on equal footing with Constitution. NBC = 2 citizen parents.

  75. GORDO | May 2, 2012 at 12:37 am |

    “$10,000 bounty offered online for Obama college transcripts”

    “A faceless organization calling itself “The Trenches” is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone who can provide an authentic copy of President Barack Obama’s course transcripts from his days at Occidental College, Harvard University or Columbia University.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/01/10000-bounty-offered-online-for-obama-college-transcripts/
    ———-
    Update:

    “Blogger offers $10,000 bounty for Obama college transcripts”

    “The Daily Caller has identified the owner of a website that promised on Tuesday to pay $10,000 to anyone who can provide an authentic copy of President Barack Obama’s course transcripts from his days at Occidental College, Harvard University or Columbia University.

    Although its one-page website is presented anonymously, conservative blogger Brooks Bayne confirmed to The Daily Caller that he is responsible for it.

    Bayne told TheDC that a group of eight people – including some he called “recognizable” figures – are coordinating the effort to make Obama’s college transcripts public, Bayne told The Daily Caller. He declined to name any of them.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/01/10000-bounty-offered-online-for-obama-college-transcripts/

  76. citizenwells

    Zach, that is correct.
    The US Code is subservient to the US Constitution.

  77. Bret tweeted a few minutes ago.

    Bret Baier ‏ @BretBaier

    Good morning. Thoughts on the day?
    —————————————————————–
    Regarding conflict of Constitution with federal code see Marbury v Madison. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0005_0137_ZO.html

    …It is also not entirely unworthy of observation that, in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution itself is first mentioned, and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution, have that rank.

    Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument….

  78. Why is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room? Obama’s lawyer, in a NJ court, has effectively admitted that Obama’s released long form birth certificate is forged. Not only can’t he produce a valid one, but knowingly attempted to defraud the people and as a result, regardless of any other legalities or interpratations, sufficient numbers of obama defectors will cause Hillary to replace Obama if the other running democxrats are to have a chance. All other talk on this will be washed away.

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