Salisbury N Rowan teacher warns student of disrespecting Obama, Arrested for speaking ill?, Criminal to slander a president, Thought police in NC

Salisbury N Rowan teacher warns student of disrespecting Obama, Arrested for speaking ill?, Criminal to slander a president, Thought police in NC

“”You’re a traitor!” yelled the boy. “You’re a thought criminal!””…George Orwell, “1984”

“An ominous new development within the HJ was the appearance of HJ-Streifendienst (Patrol Force) units functioning as internal political police, maintaining order at meetings, ferreting out disloyal members, and denouncing anyone who criticized Hitler or Nazism including, in a few cases, their own parents.” …TheHistoryPlace.com

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

The Thought Police is alive and active in NC.

From the Salisbury Post May 19, 2012.

“After reviewing a video in which a North Rowan High School teacher tells a student he can be arrested for speaking ill of President Barack Obama, the Rowan-Salisbury School System said it can be a learning experience.

Meanwhile, an expert on politics at Catawba College says the social studies teacher just doesn’t have her facts straight when she insists speaking your mind about a president can get you charged with a criminal offense.

Although two students provided the name of the teacher, the Post is not publishing it because officials within the school system would not confirm her identity and she could not be reached for comment.

The video captures audio of the dispute but does not show the teacher or anyone else. It appears to have been shot with a phone or other device as the camera pointed at the ceiling the entire time.

Rowan-Salisbury spokeswoman Rita Foil confirmed the teacher is still employed with the district and has not been suspended for disciplinary reasons. Foil emailed this statement to a Post reporter Friday on behalf of the school system:

“The Rowan-Salisbury School System expects all students and employees to be respectful in the school environment and for all teachers to maintain their professionalism in the classroom. This incident should serve as an education for all teachers to stop and reflect on their interaction with students.

“Due to personnel and student confidentiality, we cannot discuss the matter publicly.”

The nearly 10-minute video, shot by a student and uploaded to YouTube on Monday, had been viewed more than 1,000 times by Friday afternoon.

It begins with a classroom conversation about a recent news story detailing Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney allegedly bullying a classmate in prep school. It turns into a heated, sometimes confrontational debate.

One student asks, “Didn’t Obama bully someone though?”

The teacher responds: “Not to my knowledge.”

In response to the Romney story, conservatives have recently been pointing to a passage in Obama’s book, “Dreams from My Father,” in which the president writes that while in grade school he shoved a little girl, the only other black student in his grade, after other students called him her boyfriend.

When the student tells the teacher that Obama admitted to bullying a girl in school, the teacher goes on the defensive.

“Stop, no, because there is no comparison,” she says. Romney, she says, is “running for president. Obama is the president.”

When the student says they’re both “just men,” the teacher continues to argue that Romney, as a candidate for president, is not to be afforded the same respect as the president.

The teacher tells the class Obama is “due the respect that every other president is due.”

“Listen, let me tell you something, you will not disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom,” she says.

The student replies that he’ll say what he wants.

“Not about him you won’t,” the teacher says.

Later in the conversation, the teacher tells the class it’s criminal to slander a president.

“Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush?” she says of former President Bush. “Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?”

The student responds by saying being arrested for talking badly about the president would violate the right to free speech.

“You would have to say some pretty f’d up crap about him to be arrested,” he says. “They cannot take away your right to have your opinion. … They can’t take that away unless you threaten the president.”

Principal Darrel McDowell referred questions about the video to Foil.

Michael Bitzer, a political science professor at Catawba College and a widely known political analyst, weighed in on the video.

“I think what this broke down to was a perceived personal slight by an instructor against someone she sees in a positive view, and things just went out of control from there,” Bitzer said in an email to the Post.

Bitzer said he thinks the teacher did go a “bit overboard in being rude towards the student.”

“I think the student was also trying to pick a fight, honestly,” he said.

Bitzer said it appears the teacher’s attempt to make a point about showing respect for the office of the president gets overshadowed by her personal feelings for Obama.

“Her point about not being able to say anything ‘disrespectful’ about the president does fly in the face of the First Amendment, and while she may wish to enforce that edict about ‘respecting’ the president, the issue seems to have gotten personal on her part,” Bitzer wrote.

“Granted, she apparently tried to ensure that a respectful conversation was had about the president, but she seems to have taken things a bit too personally — and it appears the student was set on making a confrontation in the guise of raising a question about ‘who bullied who — both Romney and Obama?’ ”

Referencing former president George W. Bush, Richard Nixon and Abraham Lincoln, Bitzer said the fact that there are a lot of “mean, derogatory things said about our elected officials” is part of American history.

Bitzer said he has “no idea” what the teacher is talking about when she claims people were arrested for saying bad things about Bush.

“I have never heard of anyone arrested for saying derogatory things about George W. Bush , which I am assuming she is referring to,” he said. “Her belief that if one slanders the president is not very accurate — if you ‘threaten’ the president, that is another story, and that is a criminal offense.””

http://www.salisburypost.com/News/051912-North-teacher-on-video-qcd

Thanks to commenter Rob.

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176 responses to “Salisbury N Rowan teacher warns student of disrespecting Obama, Arrested for speaking ill?, Criminal to slander a president, Thought police in NC

  1. Great comments here….they get it….esp. the Soros SoS plan:

    53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/05/16/53000-dead-voters-found-in-florida/#comment-17900

  2. Remember, it was also a child who was the only one who noticed and spoke out that the Emperor really was wearing no clothes! Even then the thought police and group think had terrorized the general public!

  3. I suppose that everyone is related to everyone if you go back to Eve!

    Like Warren, Obama Claims Cherokee Ancestry–But Offers No Proof

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/21/Like-Warren-Obama-Claims-Cherokee-Ancestry-But-Offers-No-Proof

  4. I am amazed a person this ignorant is a teacher.
    This had to be a study hall.

  5. WOW….HI “responded”….by asking for proof that you are worthy of such highly privileged info re: the emperor’s identity!

    Hawaii responds to Bennett’s Obama birth records request .

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hawaii-responds-to-Bennetts–152213005.html

  6. Free Speech

  7. Exclusive: Barack Obama’s High School Drug Dealer Claims Young Barry Stole His Bong, Still Owes Him for a Dime Bag

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/05/exclusive-barack-obamas-high-school.html

  8. “THESE QUESTIONS WERE POSED BY CITIZENS TO SHERIFF ARPAIO, AND JEROME CORSI, AND JOSEPH FARAH FROM WND. SO FAR NO ANSWERS.

    THE SAME STONEWALLING, AS WE SEE COMING FROM THE REST OF THE MEDIA WITH OBAMA”

    Posted on | May 20, 2012

    “A message to Dr. Corsi, Sheriff Joe, and Joseph Farah:

    For about a week I have been attempting to obtain an answer from Jerome Corsi and Sheriff Joe. The following is an example placed on Face Book to Dr. Corsi: “My main question is, as much as I appreciate what Sheriff Joe’s has done, when will they start helping out lawyers like Orly Taitz in her court cases which have the objective of keeping Obama off the ballot? These cases need his probable cause evidence. For the last four years the information about Mr. Obama has been known and as much as I appreciate the work of Dr. Corsi, Joseph Farah, and Sheriff Joe, they have been avoiding recognition of the investigations Dr. Taitz has completed, gone to court with, and provided to Sheriff Joe at the beginning of his Cold Case Passe.

    This absence of recognition for the contribution Dr. Taitz has achieved needs to be corrected. It is not just to avoid her accomplishments in a taboo manner as the mass media has used to avoid Mr. Obama’s eligibility issue.

    Court cases have to be done in a timely manner, and at the present time Dr. Taitz has several court cases involved with Mr. Obama’ lack of eligibility.

    This evidence is nothing new for the cases that Dr. Taitz has been prosecuting for quite a few years. Now with the elections near and the time for formalizing the ballots within weeks, Dr. Taitz needs to utilize her own investigative reports along with those that Sheriff Arpaio has completed which provide probable cause. She has been requesting this cooperation from Sheriff Joe and has not received it. Time is of the essence. How can anyone realistically substantiate their sincerity in finding the truth on this case when they do not take advantage of another truth-seeker trying to prosecute the same person’s voter fraud?

    It appears past time that all the players searching for truth and rule of law with a foundation upon the Constitution start cooperating with one another so that the truth comes out in a timely manner.

    Further delay with this cooperation will result in having Mr. Obama wrongfully placed on the ballots when there is substantial probable cause his personal information is fraudulent.

    Given the grave circumstances our State of the Nation is in right now, it is imperative that this cooperation start immediately. Clearly, there is no justification for furthering the gross voter fraud the American People have been experiencing. –
    Bruce Wiltse”

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=70731

  9. Joseph Farah:

    “10 reasons why some don’t care about eligibility”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/10-reasons-why-some-dont-care-about-eligibility/

  10. Arizona v Hawaii: Eligibility Researcher Butterdezillion Details Why Hawaii
    Is Stalling Verification Of Obama’s Composited Birth Certificate(s)

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/05/arizona-v-hawaii-eligibility-researcher.html

  11. Free Speech

    Dr. Jerome Corsi now believes that Frank Marshall Davis is bo’s biological father.

  12. Thanks for this update – Free Speech | May 21, 2012 at 8:59 am |

  13. bob strauss

    observer | May 21, 2012 at 8:49 am |

    WOW….HI “responded”….by asking for proof that you are worthy of such highly privileged info re: the emperor’s identity!

    Hawaii responds to Bennett’s Obama birth records request .

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hawaii-responds-to-Bennetts–152213005.html
    **********************************************
    Hawaii is making a big deal about releasing that which Obama has already released.

    I smell a rat.

  14. Pat….you said that you could not believe a teacher could be so IGNORANT ….well believe it because many are today…….I have a daughter who teaches in a Junior High school in West Virginia…she says many teachers in her school are totally not qualified to be teachers, but they are protected by the NEA and other teacher unions….

    Being a teacher today is kind of like working for the federal government. You can’t be fired, and they won’t quit.

    Just listening to the tape of the teacher, it is easy to tell she is not qualified to teach anything to anyone… anywhere…. at anytime.

    I live in North Carolina and it makes me sick to think the future of our children in this state are being wasted by IGNORANT teachers like this.

    But I am also a realist….I do not think or hope for any changes in our educational system until the federal government gets out of the business and turns control of the schools back to the local communities.

    Then and only then can we purge the rolls of IGNORANT teachers like we hear on the audio in this blog.

    Thanks CW for bringing this forward. All of America needs to understand whats wrong with education in the USA today.

  15. Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk 5/21/12: On Indefinite Detention The Tyranny Continues
    Politics & Law
    Ron Paul’s Texas Straight Talk 5/21/12: On Indefinite Detention: The Tyranny Continues

    http://www.dailypaul.com/235140/ron-pauls-texas-straight-talk-5-21-12-on-indefinite-detention-the-tyranny-continues#comments

  16. Check this out LMAO !

    Obama Claims, But Can’t Prove, Cherokee Roots

    Like Warren, Obama Claims Cherokee Ancestry–But Offers No Proof
    Like-Warren-Obama-Claims-Cherokee-Ancest…8 hours ago – Both claim Cherokee ancestry, and neither can prove it. … are current and well known, but President Obama’s claims were made back in 1995, … most eloquently of their [grandparents Stanley and Madelyne Dunham's]

    http://www.breitbart.com

  17. Hey Mr. Clean……..

    Obama’s claim to be “part Cherokee” is all part of his bigger plan to re-educate America…he also included “Dizzy Lizzy” in that plan.

    Like you, I also got a good chuckle out of that.The man-child (aka) Obama has no shame.

  18. CW

    I have read that the parents have removed their son to another school.

  19. Stanford can’t remember if Mitt Romney was part his ponzi scheme

    (Reuters) – A prison psychologist who evaluated accused swindler Allen Stanford testified on Tuesday that it would be “incredibly rare” for a patient to suffer from the type of delayed memory loss the Texas financier says makes him incompetent to stand trial.
    Continue:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/21/us-stanford-ponzi-

    Read all about Mitt Romneys involvement here.
    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/01/316040/romney-so

    Chart showing Romney and family member involvement
    http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chart1.png

  20. Free Speech | May 21, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    Dr. Jerome Corsi now believes that Frank Marshall Davis is bo’s biological father.
    ______________________________
    I have my doubts about that. First of all the physical characteristics just don’t match….as they don’t for O sr either. Secondly, the various world “elitist” powers that worked to get him in at the various la di da and expensive universities wouldn’t be all that excited over that bio background. They would over the knowledge of the X factor….the acknowledged prince for their uncompleted cause….and with more reason to keep that paternity info hidden….due to tarnishing the “prince’s” “chaste” reputation….esp. in the eyes of the black community!

  21. Bob,

    Like you, I too smell a rat….

    I doubt they will allow hard copy (Pre-amended) status review. Additionally, I also doubt they will allow hospital verification as well as Microfilm role for a true analysis for verification.

    But that’s just my take

  22. citizenwells

    Ginger.
    Good for them.
    However, as the school stated about this being an educational moment,
    it is a wake up call for the community & nation.

  23. Barack Obama: A Foundation Operative!

    Published on May 20, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel

    “On the May 20 Sunday edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex covers the global elite on the run as the establishment media is forced to report on the Bilderbergers and their noxious plan to finally unfold a devastating attack on Iran, undermine the internet with government censorship, and sell the public on more trillions in bankster bailouts and punitive carbon taxes under the discredited cover of saving the earth.

    Alex talks about the continued and long overdue outing of Kenyan-born Obama the imposter and the G8 war council in Chicago that has transformed the Windy City into a repressive police state where political activists disappear and patsies are set-up as terrorists to further the manufactured war on terror and its Orwellian control grid.”

  24. oppps…

    Should read: Microfilm Roll…. not role… (although it plays a part)..LOL

  25. Seaque,

    I surely know that you are aware that Ron Paul will not win the GOP nomination, don’t you? If not, you are setting yourself up for one heck of a disappointment shortly.

  26. bob strauss

    observer | May 21, 2012 at 10:07 am |
    ****************************
    I believe you are right about the bio, truth is, we really don’t know who Obama is, or who his parents were, or what citizenship he holds.

  27. Bob,

    Just to add to my comment. I think the problem is that “IF” Hawaii does release an official government document, fake or real, then the State of Arizona now has said document to use as probative evidence for further investigation as evidence.

    Right or wrong, I was reading that somewhere. Maybe FreeSpeech as an attorney can clarify that for everyone as I surely don’t know.

  28. Seaque,

    Just so you know, I am not a Mitt Romney supporter either… but I am a realist and know RP will not win the GOP, Romney will.

  29. Observer…………………
    If you tell illiterate people that UP is DOWN long enough,and intensley enough eventually they will BELIEVE it. Isn’t that part of the George Orwell treatise? If people would use the gourd that God gave them for what it was intended people like Orwell would have been laughed out of town about 2 seconds after the people heard his BS.

  30. William…………re; 10:42AM

    ………and now the pendulum begins it’s backswing,which is a CARBON COPY of it’s forward swing. Forward swing got us Soetoro, backswing gets us Romney…….CARBON COPIES!

  31. Just a question….anybody got any “faith” in the G8 group? What a bunch of little whimps….I’d say, except for maybe Angela who actually tries an austerity approach with no help from the little boy whussies who want mommy to bail them all out. Aren’t they pitiful in themselves….no wonder they have to comply with their various national thug types to threaten with more promises of goodies for all…or else. They are making things ripe for the chief “philanthropist” to arrive on the scene to save us all from the mighty world chaos….soon at your doorstep. First economic, then social, then political.

  32. It looks like the cornpone kenyan is attempting to impose lese-majesty laws in this country now. Predictable for this sociopath-narcissist.

  33. citizenwells | May 21, 2012 at 10:22 am |
    Ginger.
    Good for them.
    However, as the school stated about this being an educational moment,
    it is a wake up call for the community & nation.
    _________________________________

    Didn’t we see some of this during the campaign when some kids were forbidden to say anything in their classes against Obama then too? And the kids were brainwashed to sing Obama songs of praise, etc. You’d think that by now they wouldn’t still have to defend him with such threatening postures if he were proving to be the prince they anointed him as back then!

  34. ………sadly the only candidates who could have made a difference have been long since silenced. If we are to get rid of Soetoro we MUST vote for Romney. That is the box the voter is in,and soon he/she will have to choose between more of Soetoro,or MORE of Romney. Which is the worst of the two evils? Their BS is exactly the same(just stated differently). In reality there is NOBODY running for POTUS who is QUALIFIED to hold the office. Romney is another Henry Kaiser. Some will remember Kaiser as being the ORIGINAL corporation stripper.

  35. OldSalt,

    It truly says it all when George Soros during an interview stated he has no problem with Mitt Romney wining the election as there is litter difference between Mitt and Obama government policies. Of course their very different “persons” in their private lives, but that’s not the subject matter, governing is…

    He supports both of them……

    That says it all right there…

  36. opps..

    Little difference, is what he said

  37. The Manufactured War on Terror

  38. can’t type today….. forgive me.. you get the point I hope…

  39. OldSalt,

    I am also interesting and waiting to see if Mitt Romney chooses a V.P. whom is not eligible to hold that office, same as Obama. I think they want to make this a precedence whereby they can declare Republican supports support such candidacy so long as “they” can win, therefore, whats the difference?

    Lets see if the Republican party is that stupid. Its theirs to lose if they do this.

  40. Observer……………….
    It all comes down to the quality of our elementary,and high school teachers, who now feel that they are Soooooo Impoooorrrrtant,that they can teach ANYTHING they LIKE. Many of these ALLEGED teachers are so mentally deficient that they even think it is OK to have sex with their students, and hand out condoms to 1st graders to play with. Yet many of the parents of these children also think that there is NOTHING wrong with the deviated curriculum which seems to be flourishing in our public school systems. So I would guess that the elementary school curriculum will become even more deviated in nature…….UP will be DOWN and that is how it will be taught………that is until people decide enough is enough, and start dishing out some knuckle sandwiches to the people who perpetuate the insane level of so called teaching, and move to clean out,and otherwise clean up the public school systems. The Connecticut school system is so permeated with sexual deviates, and otherwise just plain mental morons that the state is nearly unable to even teach at the various grade levels any longer.

  41. Free Speech

    Dr. Jerome Corsi the World’s Leading Expert on bo now believes that Frank Marshall Davis is bo’s real Biological Father.


  42. William; Soros saying that he is “ok” with Romney just means he’s not confident with an Obama 2012 win and he’s playing both sides of the fense.

  43. FreeSpeech,

    Who knows who Obama’s father truly is? None of us. That’s the problem, or at least part of it.

    I don’t think we the public will ever know although I hope otherwise.

    Additionally, did you read the comment I mentioned above whereby you may be able to assist lending your legal advice on probative evidence pertaining to Hawaii releasing documents to the State of Arizona?

  44. Free Speech

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-jeb-bush-graham/2012/05/20/id/439691

    Graham: Jeb Bush Would Be Perfect Romney VP Pick

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., says Jeb Bush is the GOP VP candidate who could most likely put Mitt Romney over the top in the November elections.

    “He’d be an outstanding pick. It’s up to Gov. Romney but if I had to recommend a single person it would be Jeb,” Graham told The Hill.

    Chatter is picking up on Capitol Hill that Bush could be a dark horse, according to The Hill, even though the current favorites seem to be Florida’s Marco Rubio and Ohio’s Rob Portman.

    Senior political strategists think Bush could deliver Florida for Romney and help him among Hispanic and Catholic voters.

    The Hill pointed out that Bush fanned speculation last month when he told Newsmax that “I’d consider it…”

  45. The audio of the teacher yelling at the students and her obvious use of lies and intimidation is appalling! She should be fired! I’d love to meet this kid and congratulate him.

    My daughter and son-in-law pay dearly to send their children to private schools in NC instead of the public schools. I realize that they made a wise decision.

  46. BTW,

    I was reading about Mitt’s choice not to attack Obama other than on Policies, all else is “Off limits”. That folks, is the same redundant crap of a strategy John McCain ran and has his lunch not only eaten, but regurgitated and taken back to him on a Silver platter by the Obama force. The same ones that also was able to take down the Clinton Machine.

    They are being foolish….

  47. Bessie,

    If that were true, then Soros would have a history of supporting both sides, but he doesn’t does he…. Soros did and has praised Mitt when he was a Governor…Big Government intervention policies,Big Spending, Romneycare, appointing Highly Liberal Judges to the State Supreme Court, ect..

  48. I need to start getting ready for work. Everyone have a lovely day, enjoy and keep up the informative posts. I will try to review some in the early A.M. hours….

    take care

  49. BREAKING: Cardinal Dolan of NY, Cardinal Wuerl of D.C., Notre Dame–And 40 Other Catholic Dioceses and Organizations–Sue Obama Administration

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/breaking-cardinal-dolan-ny-cardinal-wuerl-dc-notre-dame-and-40-other-catholic-dioceses

  50. jacqlynsmith

    Very important call with Patriot DRAKE……one of the OATHKEEPERS…..

    Drake Call 5-20-12

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedomreigns/2012/05/20/from-my-porch

  51. jacqlynsmith

    * Excellent article with video by Stephanie Ealy..please share!

    Ron Paul supporters everywhere may have been prophetically chanting when they yelled “President Paul” as the 2012 Presidential candidate not only came out victorious in delegate count in Minnesota but in several other states as well this weekend according to RonPaul2012.com.Ron Paul, marching to the beat of a different drum by saying he’ll cut a trillion his first year in office, turn the lights out on the IRS, among countless other promises he can back up with years of consistent voting has caused hundreds of thousands of Americans to wake up. Those who have joined the throngs, throw off their past “sheeple” behavior, begin by doing their internet homework and march with Paul carrying a torch of liberty and hope toward the red, white and blue aiming to save the dollar and keep the eagle strong in a revolution that surely has left the mainstream media and those not in sync in a quandary.

    Despite the mainstream media’s BIG misinterpretation and irresponsible reporting last week when many initially said the good doctor was finished, it was a slam dunk for the grassroots organizers in Minnesota as they took 12 out of 13 delegates in the second part of their nominating process for a total of 32 out of 40 overall between the two tier event.

    As the revolution army marches around the country busy doing what they do best, winning delegates, surely Mitt Romney took notice as the Ron Paul freedom fighters stormed the gates of Mitt’s home state of Michigan winning some there ensuring Romney could not take all. Delegates were also won for Paul in Vermont as well.

    continued:

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12204890-ron-paul-wins-minnesota-and-takes-on-romney-on-his-home-turf

  52. jacqlynsmith

    Please share this with everyone you know……

    Recovery or Callapse? Bet on Collapse

    by Paul Craig Roberts

    The US financial system and, probably, the financial system of Europe, like the police, no longer serves a useful social purpose.

    In the US the police have proven themselves to be a greater threat to public safety than private sector criminals. I just googled “police brutality” and up came 183,000,000 results. (Here are two recent brutal assaults, one deadly, by police on hapless individuals: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/05/kelly-thomas-video-dad-they-are-killing-me-.html and http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31364.htm )

    The cost to society of the private financial system is even higher. Writing in CounterPunch (May 18), Rob Urie reports that two years ago Andrew Haldane, executive Director for Financial Stability at the Bank of England (the UK’s version of the Federal Reserve) said that the financial crisis, now four years old, will in the end cost the world economy between $60 trillion and $200 trillion in lost GDP. If Urie’s report is correct, this is an astonishing admission from a member of the ruling elite. http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/18/the-true-costs-of-bank-crises/print

    Try to get your mind around these figures. The US GDP, the largest in the world, is about 15 trillion. What Haldane is telling us is that the financial crisis will end up costing the world lost real income between 4 and 13 times the size of the current Gross Domestic Product of the United States. This could turn out to be an optimistic forecast.

    In the end, the financial crisis could destroy Western civilization.

    Even if Urie’s report, or Haldane’s calculation, is incorrect, the obvious large economic loss from the financial crisis is still unprecedented. The enormous cost of the financial crisis has one single source–financial deregulation. Financial deregulation is likely to prove to be the mistake that destroys Western civilization. While we quake in our boots from fear of “Muslim terrorists,” it is financial deregulation that is destroying us, with help from jobs offshoring. Keep in mind that Haldane is a member of the ruling elite, not a critic of the system like myself, Gerald Celente, Michael Hudson, Pam Martins, and Nomi Prins. (This is not meant to be an exhaustive list of critics.)

    Financial deregulation has had dangerous and adverse consequences. Deregulation permitted financial concentration that produced “banks too big to fail,” thus requiring the general public to absorb the costs of the banks’ mistakes and reckless gambling.

    more here

    http://www.degaray.com/

  53. I listened to that exchange yesterday. That teacher is a stupid reject with ZERO capacity for logic. It is a crime that somebody with such a poor intellect could be teaching our children.

  54. Jack Cashill & Roger L. Simon:

    “A 1991 promotional booklet from Barack Obama’s literary agent claims that the President was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. What does the new information mean and will the mainstream media finally start vetting Obama? Deconstructing Obama author Jack Cashill talks with Roger L. Simon about the President’s changing history.”

  55. Paxson @ 1:40

    Doesn’t it warm your heart though, how the student responded? Good kid! “They’re both men! He’s not god!” Love it! Good upbringing!

  56. Philo-Publius

    Rush was talking about the NC teacher and the student today. I thought I heard him say the teacher has been fired.

  57. http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/05/21/_born_in_kenya_.html

    Slate is a left leaning group. Hmmmm. Maybe this will be the year the vetting begins.

  58. Free Speech

    The most logical conclusion is that bo’s Original Hawaiian BC listed his father as “Unknown” because the family was ashamed that the Old Pervert Frank Marshall Davis is bo’s biological father and they had not yet conned bo sr. into alleging that he was bo’s dad. Then bo was adopted by LoLo the Dog Eater and the Dunham’s had another BC issued with bo’s name changed to Barry Soetoro.

    That is why Hawaii can not produce a BC confirming that the forgery that bo released is authentic.

  59. bob strauss

    William | May 21, 2012 at 10:40 am |

    Bob,

    Just to add to my comment. I think the problem is that “IF” Hawaii does release an official government document, fake or real, then the State of Arizona now has said document to use as probative evidence for further investigation as evidence.

    Right or wrong, I was reading that somewhere. Maybe FreeSpeech as an attorney can clarify that for everyone as I surely don’t know.
    ************************************
    Good point William. Hawaii looks bad either way. I hope they kick the fraud off of the ballot in AZ, for lack of verification from Hawaii.

  60. jacqlynsmith

    WE THE PEOPLE better WAKE UP SOON……STOP LETTING ISRAEL RUN THE USA…..

    U.S now Israel colony

    A number of congressmen spoke on the bill, affirming their undying dedication to the cause of Israel. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only one who spoke out against it, describing it as “one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria.” Paul also observed that “this bill states that it is the policy of the United States to ‘reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.’ However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country.” Paul voted “no” and was joined by only one other representative, John Dingell of Michigan, who represents a large Muslim constituency.

    http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/05/16/house-passes-stealth-legislation/

    The House bill basically provides Israel with a blank check drawn on the U.S. taxpayer to maintain its “qualitative military edge” over all of its neighbors combined. It requires the White House to prepare an annual report on how that superiority is being maintained. The resolution passed on May 9 by a vote of 411–2 on a “suspension of the rules,” which is intended for non-controversial legislation requiring little debate and a quick vote.

    http://www.dailypaul.com/234423/us-now-israel-colony

  61. jacqlynsmith

    Tampa is going to be the biggest wake up call in our nations history if it GETS that far….. the end of the msm’s orwellian control over the masses. the message to the establishment that our numbers will not be silenced!!!!

    Dr. Ron Paul wake up call

  62. Free Speech

    If bo had a certified copy of a Hawaiian BC listing bo sr. as his Father he would have released it in 2008. As the Hawaii Records Clerk Tim Adams and the Hawaii Governor Abercrombie have previously stated, “THERE IS NO BC listing bo sr as bo’s Father.”

    It is likely that there are 2 Certified BCs for bo: One listing bo’s Father as UNKNOWN and another listing LoLo as bo’s Father.

  63. bob strauss | May 21, 2012 at 9:28 am |

    observer | May 21, 2012 at 8:49 am |

    WOW….HI “responded”….by asking for proof that you are worthy of such highly privileged info re: the emperor’s identity!

    Hawaii responds to Bennett’s Obama birth records request .

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hawaii-responds-to-Bennetts–152213005.html
    **********************************************
    Hawaii is making a big deal about releasing that which Obama has already released.

    I smell a rat.
    **********************************************
    Link now gone from azfamily…

  64. Free Speech

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/21/as-obama-preaches-patience-mattis-prepares-for-war-with-iran.html

    Those who have worked with Mattis say his views when it comes to Iran are more in line with those of America’s allies in the Persian Gulf and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu than with his own government’s. At a recent charity event for Spirit of America, Mattis, known by admirers as the “warrior monk” and by detractors as “Mad Dog Mattis,” said his three top concerns in the Middle East were “Iran, Iran, and Iran.”

  65. BREAKING: Cardinal Dolan of NY, Cardinal Wuerl of D.C., Notre Dame–And 40 Other Catholic Dioceses and Organizations–Sue Obama Administration

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/breaking-cardinal-dolan-ny-cardinal-wuerl-dc-notre-dame-and-40-other-catholic-dioceses

  66. GORDO | May 21, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
    Jack Cashill & Roger L. Simon:

    “A 1991 promotional booklet from Barack Obama’s literary agent claims that the President was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia.
    ……………..
    _____________________________________
    Now if they would just carry it another step further and show the Indonesian school record that insinuates his adoption (the name he was using and his Muslim faith) and thus no U.S. citizenship period.

  67. Free Speech

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/05/21/will_bam_dump_bite_me_for_hillary

    RUSH: There’s talk about Bite Me being thrown off the ticket.

    We’ve talked about this before. The news is that it’s gonna be Hillary. They’re gonna put Hillary on the ticket, that Clinton wants Hillary back on the ticket.

  68. Free Speech | May 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm |

    Unfortunately this is correct. Obongo is suffering from the Bradley syndrome. Nobody likes him, but will not admit it publicly.

    They will trot out that tired old crook Hillirat. And retards will line up to give money. Obongo is not raising enough cash and Slick will take care of that.

  69. John in Illinois

    Is anyone tired of seeing Obama on TV 24/7/365 ? Press conference right now talking about NATO and Al Queda ,Iraq,Afganistan,and how he has solved all the world’s problems. Oh please dear leader we give you praise !!!
    This is getting sick with his campaigning crap.

  70. John in Illinois

    Anyone counting the “I’s”

  71. This is a good article, even though posting it here is preaching to the choir.
    The choir needs to be stirred up occasionally.
    Why Eligibility Is So Important To America

    (quote)
    I don’t believe that most Americans go around looking into every conspiracy theory that comes down the pipe, but this is different. We have put Obama’s finger on the nuclear trigger of the world’s most technologically advanced military in history, an American or a Kenyan?

    We have given this man permission, by our votes to know EVERY secret about this country, and the most highly classified information about the rest of the world. We have entrusted this man with the world/s largest economy yet he seems hell bent on bringing it to ruin.

    We have given this man our permission to make treaties and pacts with the rest of the for the United States, but what if his loyalty is NOT with America? Obama keeps mentioning the fact that he would like America to be more like Europe and his socialist agenda seems to back that up.

    Read more:
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/why-eligibility-is-so-important-to-america/

  72. A number of congressmen spoke on the bill, affirming their undying dedication to the cause of Israel. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only one who spoke out against it, describing it as “one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria.” Paul also observed that “this bill states that it is the policy of the United States to ‘reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state……..Paul voted “no” and was joined by only one other representative, John Dingell of Michigan, who represents a large Muslim constituency.
    ****************************************
    The above is why I could never vote for Ron Paul. For whatever noble reasons he gives, it speaks volumes to me that he and ONLY one other, Rep. John Dingell – a Dem of a large Muslim constituency – voted against the bill.
    Paul can claim to hide behind the U.S. Constitution on such a matter as this, but when it comes to O’s eligibility, Paul is silent about the Constitutional requirements.
    When Paul and Dingell are on the same side re. Israel, that doesn’t make me feel safe or secure.

  73. cabbyaz | May 21, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    A number of congressmen spoke on the bill, affirming their undying dedication to the cause of Israel. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only one who spoke out against it, describing it as “one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria.” Paul also observed that “this bill states that it is the policy of the United States to ‘reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state……..Paul voted “no” and was joined by only one other representative, John Dingell of Michigan, who represents a large Muslim constituency.
    ****************************************
    The above is why I could never vote for Ron Paul. For whatever noble reasons he gives, it speaks volumes to me that he and ONLY one other, Rep. John Dingell – a Dem of a large Muslim constituency – voted against the bill.
    Paul can claim to hide behind the U.S. Constitution on such a matter as this, but when it comes to O’s eligibility, Paul is silent about the Constitutional requirements.
    When Paul and Dingell are on the same side re. Israel, that doesn’t make me feel safe or secure.

    ————–

    Exactly, Cabby.

  74. truthbetold11

    as long as the main stream media controls purse strings it wont matter cause the 40 million zombies dont care. only hes theres and do their bidding

  75. “CONTROLLED ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, MOVE TOWARD GLOBALISM”

    “THE COMING WAR INSIDE AMERICA”

    Doug Hagmann
    Tuesday, January 3, 2012:

    Excerpt:

    “As the attention of most Americans was captivated by the shiny object in Times Square this weekend like infants fixated on car keys dangled in front of them, Barack Hussein Obama signed into law H.R. 1540, better known as the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Regardless of any concurrent executive signing statements that are mere window dressing and not legally binding, Obama and every member of congress who crafted and voted for this act has essentially declared war on American citizens on U.S. soil.”

    Read The Entire Article Here:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43630

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Please Read Doug Hagmann Archives Here:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/1/Doug%20Hagmann/12

  76. John in Illinois………………
    Did you also hear the comment in which Soetoro stated that our military forces and assets are now under NATO control. Who the hell gave him permission to commit our forces to the lead of an Italian NITWIT who couldn’t lead himself out an open door. People of America if you allow this to go on then you will GET EVERYTHING that you are asking for and otherwise deserve. It will be your sons and daughters who will die needlessly because of the horses asses that Command NATO forces. NATO is an INNEFFECTIVE FORCE, and always has been. They couldn’t whip a force of BILLY GOATS.

  77. ………in the 1950s a NATO participant country was given a number of ex US Navy LSTs. The jackasses that they put in command of the LSTs promptly sunk two of them, ran another hard aground on a REEF which tore it’s bottom out, and the remaining LSTs (3) couldn’t even get underway because the crew had absolutely no training in the operation of LANDING SHIPS. In a little less than 6 months 10 perfectly useable LSTs were turned into scrap iron by the NATO jackasses. They thought that they had done quite well.

  78. John in Illinois

    Oldsalt79…..belated happy b-day, My father was in merchant marines in the Pacific, We used to be a world power before clinton.Obama has destroyed the military DADT , turned navy carriers into brothels, and is gutting defense funds. Will we ever be able to come back?

  79. What is evident to all who have any reason and courage left is that whenever they see this liar up on any world stage pretending to represent them as Americans is that he’s not even a citizen. EVERYTHING that has come out of his current existence (and past) has been illegitimate….all of his dictates are illegal and have no force legally. Because of this truth I cannot stand to listen or watch the big Lie or tolerate the intentionally duped ignorant.

    Out of this now comes the State creating its own atheistic religion being forced upon legitimate believers and denying their right to freedom of religion. And we have to listen to dopes like Juan Williams lecture Catholics that they should be forced to kill human life IF they are serving people who actually believe that this is a great thing. Since he doesn’t respect their consciences he is inviting a future of terrorism against everyone but he doesn’t have the ability to see the big picture. He along with his liar and chief would therefore jail Mother Theresa ‘s sisters and prevent their service to the poorest of the poor because they would refuse to commit murder as their consciences would forbid. We’re in for it because the citizenry as a whole has folded and will simply fall in line for bread and circuses in the future. Not many will have the courage of their convictions because not many today even have convictions any longer.

  80. Has anyone notice if it’s not Massachusetts with liberal, freedom-challenging crap going on, it’s North Carolina??
    Geeze..what gives??
    If I was given a home there, I’d decline the gift…or sell and keep the money and move to…uh..Texas??

  81. Jerome Corsi Video: Shocking Obama Information Being Released This Week; Sheriff Joe

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/05/jerome-corsi-interview-shocking-obama.html

  82. Major Tea Party Announcement in NJ!
    Submitted by NJ539er on Mon, 05/21/2012 – 16:43
    in
    Ron Paul 2012
    4:41pm May 21
    JUST RELEASED!!!
    PRESS RELEASE
    May 21st, 2012
    For Immediate Release

    Monmouth County Tea Party Coalition

    Ocean County Citizens For Freedom

    Bayshore Tea Party Group

    Tea Party of Middlesex County

    A Statement From Tea Party Groups of New Jersey
    Monmouth and Ocean Counties, NJ- May 18th, 2012

    A Statement from Tea Party Groups of New Jersey:

    Monmouth County Tea Party Coalition
    Ocean County Citizens For Freedom
    Bayshore Tea Party Group
    Tea Party of Middlesex County

    No longer will we be forced by both political parties and the media to choose between the lesser of two evils. We say, not on our watch will we ever give in to this sort of tyranny again. This game ends right here, right now! Endorsing Mitt Romney and his record of left-leaning policies would be a complete hypocrisy that collides with everything the Tea Party Movement stands for.

    So, it is with great pleasure and honor that We of the above mentioned Tea Party Groups of New Jersey, announce our full endorsement of Dr. Ron Paul for President of The United States of America 2012. Dr. Paul’s 20+ year voting record as an ardent constitutional conservative speaks profoundly of his integrity both as a representative of the people and as a human being. Dr. Paul’s message of Limited Constitutional Government and Individual Liberty is what motivated the Tea Parties into action to begin with and this message will continue to resonate within our movement until America is restored to her former glory and is once again a beacon of freedom.

    We choose to stand by our principles rather than to sell our souls to the game of politics because this is what Ron Paul has done consistently his entire political life and we expect nothing less of ourselves.

    We are committed to serving our communities by demanding accountability and responsible governing from our elected officials and restoring our country to a constitutional, limited government

    http://www.dailypaul.com/235298/major-tea-party-anouncement-in-nj

  83. John in Illinois…………….
    My brother has been involved in the the US Maritime service for decades. He has his master licensure but it is probable that he will soon be retired or remain sailing as a chief mate. He and his wife moved from the UK to Denmark. Don’t ask me why. I will only say that a promised command did not materialise. The construction of the ship was cancelled.
    When Soetoro made the statement that the US Military was now under NATO command, I nearly VOMITED. This takes our country into the RETORT. I personally believe that it is NOW TOO LATE for any sort of action to take back our country. It is plain to see that the SLIME OF OUR ALLEGED SOCIETY have finally gained control of the US. They are the CHILD WORDSMITHS, the drugheads, and the sexual deviates, along with the Chicago type criminal element. Together they form a Socialist Marxist sort of community, who are now playing footsies with the Islamic BASTARDS among us. But as of today help is now on the horizen. The Soetoro MORON has finally done it to the Catholic community in the US, and now the Catholic Community is going to STRIKE BACK,and this will not be a easily thrown out lawsuit. The Catholic Community could easily bring down Soetoro, and they might just do it. Up until he tried to ram his bullshi# down their throats they had made no effort to fight back. Now 40+ dioscese across the US are joining the fight ,and the lawsuits. Now a hell of a lot of Federal judges will face EXCOMMUNICATION from the Catholic Church. This fight is one that I personally have been praying for. It will go clear to the Vatican before very much time passes. Now Soetoro has stepped in one hell of a pile of DO DO,and soon he will REEK of it.

  84. Free Speech

    Free Speech | May 21, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Unfortunately this is correct. Obongo is suffering from the Bradley syndrome. Nobody likes him, but will not admit it publicly. They will trot out that tired old crook Hillirat.

    By Pat 1789 on May 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm
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    The only thing worse than bo as pReident would be hillaRat.

  85. cabby and tina

    U.S now Israel colony

    A number of congressmen spoke on the bill, affirming their undying dedication to the cause of Israel. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only one who spoke out against it, describing it as “one-sided and counterproductive foreign policy legislation. This bill’s real intent seems to be more saber-rattling against Iran and Syria.” Paul also observed that “this bill states that it is the policy of the United States to ‘reaffirm the enduring commitment of the United States to the security of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.’ However, according to our Constitution, the policy of the United States government should be to protect the security of the United States, not to guarantee the religious, ethnic, or cultural composition of a foreign country.” Paul voted “no” and was joined by only one other representative, John Dingell of Michigan, who represents a large Muslim constituency.
    http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/05/16/house-passes-

    —————————————————————————

    The House bill basically provides Israel with a blank check drawn on the U.S. taxpayer to maintain its “qualitative military edge” over all of its neighbors combined. It requires the White House to prepare an annual report on how that superiority is being maintained. The resolution passed on May 9 by a vote of 411–2 on a “suspension of the rules,” which is intended for non-controversial legislation requiring little debate and a quick vote.

  86. Cabby and Tina,

    Does this make you feel safe and secure????

    The police state is here to stay, I’m afraid: Drone over Denver nearly causes mid-air collision.

    http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNdenverMilitaryDrone.html

    I wonder what companies benefit from the purchase of this hardware? Getting spied on by our government and going into further debt with this profligate spending doesn’t make me feel safer. Do you feel safer?

    One person in Washington has been consistently fighting this crap. !!!!!!

  87. Ron Paul Forming His Own Party as Obama and Romney Join Forces

    Ron Paul Forming His Own Party as Obama and Romney Join Forces
    With the party conventions and the 2012 presidential elections inching closer and closer, the media has been reporting on the constantly changing horse race between former Governor Romney and President Obama in great detail with weekly national polls, petty arguments between the candidates, and the vetting of each other’s pasts. Fed up with this coverage and the lack of attention to the real issues facing America, Obama and Romney have stunned the country today in announcing to join their campaigns and run together.

    According to reliable sources within the administration, President Obama will make the official announcement tomorrow, telling reporters that Romney approached him about joining forces.

    “The governor told me that he is sick of the division in the country and bickering over pointless, inconsequential issues. And in order to bring the country together and increase bipartisanship, we are joining forces,” the president told reporters over the weekend. “Romney will, of course, run as my Veep,” Obama continued to chuckles from the press, “but I am absolutely thrilled to have his advice, guidance, and counsel.”

    Since both Obama and Romney agree on almost every substantial and important issue, especially those with which a president has power over, rumors of joining campaigns have been circulating inside the Beltway for weeks. And top members of Congress, excited to finally move forward without gridlock, couldn’t be more thrilled.

    “I congratulate Romney and Obama for putting the interests of the country ahead of partisan fighting,” Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said. “Their support for the NDAA bill, for torture, and the lack of concern for archaic notions of civil liberties shows that Washington is truly dedicated to fighting terrorism,” Graham added.

    Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) sounded youthful as ever, saying, “I have applauded Obama’s willingness to use military intervention around the globe in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Syria. And with Romney’s promises to increase the military budget by $8 trillion, Iran is next.” McCain spoke as he had his arm around Senator Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

    Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke was also visibly excited, but showed a calm demeanor as he heaped praised on Obama and Romney.

    “Instead of bickering over emotionally powerful, but minor, issues, we have two statesmen joining forces to allow the Fed to have unaccountable power to print money, bailout banks and politically-favored industries, devalue the currency, and manipulate interest rates,” Bernanke said as he left his office on Sunday.

    In response to this display of bipartisanship, Congressman Ron Paul has decided to run against what he calls the “Republicrat” Party. Fed up with the treatment Paul and his supporters have received from the leaders of the Republican Party, Paul has formed his own coalition against the Obama-Romney move.

    In an intimate interview with economist Jim Grant, Paul made a final plea to the American people: “My libertarian views are pretty well-known, but now I am running solely under the platform of peace and the Bill of Rights. They are the War Party, we are the Peace Party…disaffected Democrats, frustrated Republicans, independents, Greens, and anyone who values constitutional rule of law now have a voice,” Paul told Grant with a slight smile.

    “Our coalition does not agree on everything, but we agree on what matters: and end to the American empire and a restoration of civil liberties.”

    While the Obama-Romney campaign currently has about 60% support among the American people, Paul’s independent run has tremendous grassroots support and enthusiasm which should make this one of the most interesting presidential elections in recent memories.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/8615/ron-paul-forming-his-own-party-as-obama-and-romney-join-forces&referral=latest_comments

  88. Oh please, seaque. What about the money given to Egypt and Palestine? Do they run the US too? What about all the money we send for Saudi oil? What about all the Aids drugs we give to Africa? Why are you obsessed with criticizing Israel? Israel is a force for good. More countries should be like Israel. Many of the loan guarantees we give to Israel require that they buy US arms which results in jobs for Americans. Ask why the Saudi’s run us so much that we don’t drill in the US or create alternative energy. Focus on that. Stop the anti-semitism.

  89. Interested Bystander

    cabby and Tina,

    Please inform me of what program or grant or department you want stopped or closed so that we can continue to pay for Israel’s defense.

    It’s a FISCAL decision for Paul.

    We don’t have the money to keep buying “hardware” for Israel. Besides, they have plenty now as long as they are maintaining it properly.

    And in my opinion, the Israeli’s are more than capable of defending themselves with what they have, IF the United States would cut the puppet strings and ALLOW them too.

    Let me ask you two something:

    Do you have a “best friend”? (I mean besides your spouse)

    If you do, do you pay their mortgage every month?

    It’s the same principle in my opinion.

    It’s time to allow Israel to be a SOVERIEGN Country.

  90. Interested Bystander

    Tina commented:

    “Many of the loan guarantees we give to Israel require that they buy US arms which results in jobs for Americans.”

    You make my point Tina with this statement.

    And I don’t believe it’s “Many”, I believe it’s ALL.

    So we give Israel money to buy American hardware.

    It would be like my mom giving me money to buy HER lawn mower.

    And how many of these “loans” that you refer too, are actually paid back?

    You make my point for me.

    It’s not “anti-Semitism” to criticize a Country for it’s POLICIES, and it’s the US that is getting the criticism, not the Israeli’s. Quit trying to twist the actual issue.

    That’s like being called a racist for simply quoting FBI numbers for the amount of crime committed by blacks.

    As oldsalt states many times, in my opinion, you believe that UP is DOWN.

  91. seaque | May 21, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    Your above post refers to drones flying over the U.S., which has nothing to do with Israel. I can only guess that you are suggesting that because Paul opposes this encroachment on our privacy (which we all do) that he is somehow right on the Israel support issue.

    Without getting into a big discussion of why the U.S. should support Israel in spite of things she has done that have not always been right, I just want to say that there are those who do not have a Biblical worldview of coming events, and that seems to include Paul. If the U.S. ever abandons Israel we will have a lot more to worry about than drones.

    There are many Biblical passages that tell of Israel’s future in the world and also God’s judgment upon her enemies, but here is something from the prophet Jechariah 2:10-11:

    Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion, for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord. And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people; and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.”
    Jech. 8:22-23: Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord. Thus said the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you; for we have heard that God is with you.

    Zech. 12:9: And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    Seaque, I would ask this, “How can Paul make such broad promises when he has to depend upon Congress to pass legislation? (Unless he intends to act in the manner of the supreme ruler that we now have?)”

  92. Would be happy to cut aid to Egypt and Palestine or the war in Afghanistan, or most foriegn aid, IB. It really doesn’t matter what program is cut. Do you use a cell phone? Israelis invented it. Has your wife gotten a mammogram? Israel improved those machines. Israel buys American weapons that create jobs in the US. Those drones killing terrorists are being improved by Israel. Most of today’s patents are done by Israelis. Most new medicines being developed are being done by Israeli’s or Jews in America. Per capita, they have the most Nobel prizes than any other country. This obsession by mostly Ron Paul supporters is shear antisemistism. Israelis invented the process behind phone and compter texting. They developed Windows XP. Most of your modern life was improved by Israel. Soon Israel will be developing its own oil gas with their new discoveries and then they will contribute even more to the world and the cow towing to the Arabs will hopefully end.

  93. Interested Bystander

    Paul wants to stop ALL foriegn aid Tina.

    You KNOW that because I have stated it, and Paul even stated it in one of the debates.

    Israel’s ENEMIES would be far more hurt than Israel itself, IF all foriegn aid was stopped. If you don’t know that, then you are simply UNinformed and are spewing rhetoric.

    Paul wants to do all of the things (re: oil drilling, AIDS funding for Africa, etc. etc.), but yet you vilify him at every turn.

    I have tore down each and every argument you have about Paul with FACTS, yet you continue to spew rhetoric.

    Actually, you come across like the teacher in the video associated with this thread.

  94. By the way, IB, Israel won’t need us once they develop their new oil and gas reserves so relax. In a few years, it won’t matter. While you watch porn, smoke and drink, the Jews invent things.

  95. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    And you are suggesting that the REASON behind all of these “discoveries” are because the United States FINANCED them?

    I’m not buying it.

    And NO, I don’t use a cell phone (I know, I am so 1980’s)

    LOL.

  96. Only in your mind, IB, have you torn anything down. Mostly, you rant and rave. You are not credible.

  97. seaque | May 21, 2012 at 9:18 pm |
    Ron Paul Forming His Own Party as Obama and Romney Join Forces
    *****************************

    Do you take that article for real? It is SATIRE, plain and simple. It is a spoof.

  98. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    Now with the personal attacks (I LOVE it, keep it coming).

    Your personal attacks on me about my HABITS, have NOTHING to do with the discussion we were attempting to have, but because you can’t ARGUE, you ATTACK..

    And what exactly have YOU invented, miss “morality”?

  99. Well, you are using a computer, IB. The Jews are behind Windows also. Microsoft is smart enough to hire Israeli engineers. The US finances a lot of stuff. Partnerships with Israel are good. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

  100. bob strauss

    After the way the demorats have bastardized the presidency, by running a foreign born usurper, illegally on the ballot, and then allowed a full fledged cover up to conceal their illegality, I can’t believe anyone would ever vote for a demorat again. This should be the end of their communist party, treasonous effort forever.

    The jury is still out on the republicans that allowed this to happen.

  101. Interested Bystander

    cabby,

    Let me just comment this:

    Simply because someone wants to cut off FUNDS for a Country, doesn’t mean that we are going to stop SUPPORTING them.

    I linked to an interview of Paul where he gave his stance on the Israel issue. Did you take the time to watch it?

    Paul is NOT “anti Israel”.

    I think you know that.

  102. Why doesn’t Ron Paul rant and rave about the Christians being killed in Muslim countries? Ron Paul wants to make friends with Iran. He went on Iranian TV. He has some very crazy ideas. All this negative talk about Israel is nonsense.

  103. Interested Bystander

    bob strauss commented

    “The jury is still out on the republicans that allowed this to happen.”

    Not in my mind.

  104. Corey Booker LMAO, what a tool.
    This guy should get an x ray by the TSA to see if he has a back bone.
    How do stupid people like this get elected to anything.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/05/21/cory_booker_tells_the_truth_about_bain_then_recants_after_bullying_by_the_obama_regime

  105. bob strauss | May 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    After the way the demorats have bastardized the presidency, by running a foreign born usurper, illegally on the ballot, and then allowed a full fledged cover up to conceal their illegality, I can’t believe anyone would ever vote for a demorat again. This should be the end of their communist party, treasonous effort forever.

    The jury is still out on the republicans that allowed this to happen.

    ——–

    I hope you are right. The thing that is so disturbing is how the courts, police, congress, and media are all protecting OB.

  106. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    Is this what you are referring too?

    If it is, listen to the statement made by Paul at about the 2 minute mark, to the end.

    I wholeheartedly agree with Paul.

  107. Interested Bystander | May 21, 2012 at 10:10 pm |

    bob strauss commented

    “The jury is still out on the republicans that allowed this to happen.”

    Not in my mind.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    One common tactic of concern trolls is the “a plague on both your houses” approach, where the concern troll tries to convince people that both sides of the ideological divide are just as bad as each other, and so no one can think themselves “correct” but must engage in endless hedging and caveats. This preys on a willingness to debate critics and allow dissent; everyone wastes time discussing the matter and bending over backwards, so as not to appear intolerant of disagreement, all to the great amusement of the troll.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll

  108. IB, nothing negative here. I suggest you take a trip to Israel. Then go to Egypt and Jordan or any other neighbor of Israel. Check out Gaza while you are at it.

  109. Interested Bystander

    You see folks,

    Almost EVERY time Tina has brought something up, I use HER evidence to support MY argument.

    Now if you will Tina, please inform me when Paul stated he wanted to be “friends” with Iran?

    This is what I could find on the issue:

    http://settlersofsamaria.org/ron-paul-wants-to-be-friends-with-iran/

    It mentions a Ynet article, but I can’t find it.

  110. Interested Bystander

    Now I’m a “troll”.

    Great, just great!!!

  111. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    I’m not interested in visiting Israel, or the middle east, or europe, or asia, or austrailia, or the south pole.

    I like it right here just fine, thank you.

  112. Most people who go to Israel are profoundly moved and awed. Many people who go to Jordan notice how dirty it is. Petra is nice, but Jordan is very dirty, and smelly, in my humble opinion. It is sad how little the Arabs have contributed to the world recently when the Jews took a patch of sand and turned it into a wonder and a modern country.

  113. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Look folks,

    I understand that I am an “unconventional ” thinker.

    I know that I have differing beliefs than most everyone here, on some issues.

    I accept that people will think I’m “different”.

    I simply try to take in all of the information that I can, and make an informed decision using that information, life experiences and my COMMON SENSE.

    I honestly don’t really care what other’s think of me, I’m content in my life AND my morality.

    Call me all of the “names” you want, lable my HABITS as “bad”, or vilify me for what I believe to be the TRUTH.

    I am comfortable in my own mind.

  114. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    So you have been to Israel?

  115. Citizen Wells,
    DIdn’t know if you noticed, but the teacher involved with the incident was suspended from their teaching duties. I find it sad that the teacher didn’t understand the concept of the Constitution and was ‘all in’ on Obama. I find it even more sad that the teacher possibly tossed an entire life and training over such an exchange. Obama isn’t worth it, and that is a fact that left wing nuts just haven’t figured out. Obama has lied his entire life, to get what wanted for himself, and cares not for the ‘little people’.

    Pete

  116. As a former public school teacher from the 80’s…I have some advise.
    HOMESCHOOL…it ‘ain’t’ gonna get any better.

  117. Interested Bystander

    Tina commented:

    “It is sad how little the Arabs have contributed to the world recently when the Jews took a patch of sand and turned it into a wonder and a modern country.”

    Mostly on OUR dime Tina, that’s what you won’t acknowledge.

    The Israeli’s don’t have to pay for their military (WE DO), so they have ALL of that money to put in to THEIR advances.

  118. Interested Bystander

    Pete and j2j2,

    The indoctrination of the American public goes much deeper than public school teachers.

    Although I am appalled at what the teacher was saying to the student, I was just as concerned that the student said that “they talked sh!t about Bush”.

    I was raised to respect authority and NOT use cuss words. His argument held credence with me until he started cussing.

    You don’t have to use cuss words to make a valid point.

    Except in today’s world.

  119. IB, we help Palestine and Egypt too. They have done very little with our money. Yaser Arafat stole the money from his people that we gave them, and built palaces. What I find so striking is that you give no credit to the Israeli’s. We have spent billions in Africa, but mostly Africa is still a mess except for maybe Ghana. We have financed many projects and oil fields in the Arab world too. Saudi Arabia rewards us by financing terror around the world.

  120. Executive Order- National Defence Resources Perpareidence Order / Great Breakdown of the total takeover of the United States by the Obama administration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myPENDAJdE0

  121. Rather than obsessing about the money we invest in Israel, we need to drastically lower our corporate tax rates to bring jobs and investment back to America. That is the most effective step we can take to help get our economy back on track. Then we need to seal the borders so people don’t come across to swamp our schools and hospitals.

  122. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    You just don’t get it.

    I want ALL aid cut off.

    And so does Paul.

    I am fairly UNinterested in Israel, Palestine, Egypt, Africa, Ghana or Saudi Arabia.

    We are almost 16 TRILLION dollars in debt, with NO plan to stop our spending habits.

    THAT’s what interests me.

    The indoctrination of our citizens.

    THAT’s what interests me.

    Allowing lawful United States citizens to live their lives WITHOUT the “help” of the Government telling us what to do.

    THAT’s what interests me.

    The complete and utter IGNORANCE of our Constitution.

    THAT’s what interests me.

    Israel is quite competent to defend herself as I have commented many many times.

    WE won’t ALLOW them too.

  123. Again, IB, and this is the last time I will say this, Israel soon will be able to fund itself with their own oil and gas resources, hopefully, within the next several years. That is assuming Iran doesn’t bomb them. If Iran even tries it, we should support Israel, but even if we cut off all foreign aid, it would not cover our debt. Even if we taxed millionaires 100% as Obama wants to, this would not cover the debt. These are gimmick ideas. We have to grow the economy with tax reforms and reduction of regulations, driilling our own oil and gas, welfare reform, etc.

  124. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’d like to point out that I have asked Tina three questions tonight that have gone unanswered.

    I asked Tina to link me to evidence that Paul stated he wanted to be friends with Iran.

    I asked what SHE had invented

    And I asked if she had ever traveled to Israel.

    None have been answered.

    I wonder why?

  125. Yes.mi have traveled to Israel.

  126. The discussion, was on the inventions of Israeli citizens that justified our partnership with them. I have a mobility product for the disabled in prototype now, but that has nothing to do with Israel or our discussion.

  127. Interested Bystander | May 21, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    WOW!!! you are my new BFF!! YOU DA MAN!

  128. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    And this is the last time I will ask this,

    What is your evidence that some time soon Israel will be able to fund itself?

    I agree with the bulk of your comment, except that your argument that the small amount we pay Israel to be our “friend” won’t put a dent in our debt.

    I totally disagree with this comment.

    You don’t cut off ONE program or department to get our debt under control. You have to cut off SEVERAL.

    This is a LOGICAL choice. ALL aid should be eventually eliminated. Whether it is for “needy” Americans, or “needy” Countries.

    The ONLY people that should be offered a pension from the Government (in my opinion of course) is those who choose to spend 20 yearsor longer in the MILITARY. Yes Tina, I do NOT believe politicians or those in the “bureaucracy” should be given a pension AT ALL.

    How much would THAT SAVE US?

  129. “Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to Honolulu”

    “In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii.

    Zullo’s investigation is a volunteer effort, but the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has sent him to Hawaii with an MCSO deputy detective for safety reasons and to act as a liaison between MCSO and local law enforcement.

    WND reporter Jerome Corsi is embedded with the investigators in Hawaii with the provision that reporting during the trip be curtailed to protect the investigation.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu/

  130. Cabby says:If the U.S. ever abandons Israel we will have a lot more to worry about than drones.

    And when we can separate ‘Israel’ from the Zionist leeches stealing billions from our country that are fascinated with our young dying for their wars, then, and only then, can we support the Biblical Israel!!!!
    Get off the schlick, Oh, Israel is the promised land…blah–blah…even God deserted the Israelis once upon a time when they renigged on the contract He made with them.

  131. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    It is my belief that the United States GOVERNMENT should NOT be in “partnership” with ANY business.

    If US businesses want to have “partnerships” with Isreali businesses, then have at it.

  132. Okay, IB. Yes. You have to grow the economy, but we have to cut spending too. Cutting all foreign aid won’t cover our debt, and some partnerships and foreign aid, is beneficial to the US and Israel is a prime example. Netanyahu has said several times recently in interviews that he wants Israel to be independent of aid. He is looking at ways to do that. I dont think he likes to be at the mercy of Obama, but that is just my feeling on that last point. You should focus on countries that are sink holes where there is little bang for our buck like Palestine and other such countries. Pakistan might be another where we are not getting much for our buck, but there are many others. My point is Ron Paul supporters obsess all the time about Israel. We should discuss everything and look at everything. We should pull back a lot of our overseas military bases too, not all, but a lot of them.

  133. Interested Bystander

    j2j2,

    I agree with the premise of you comment at 11:51.

    I believe that the last war we actually FOUGHT and EXECUTED properly was in Kuwait. We had an objective, and accomplished that objective and got out. But yet all we heard was that we should have continued to Baghdad.

    Korea, Viet Nam, Lebanon, Samolia, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq have all been as Guns and Roses so TRUELY points out as:

    “The power hungry selling soldiers in a human grocery store”.

    The sad thing is that we were “justified” for going in to these places.

    I believe our intentions were “good”, it’s that the EXECUTION of the conflicts were and ARE being handled poorly.

  134. “The time is coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
    It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because THEY BROKE my covenant, though I was a husband to them(or was their master).
    Jeremiah 31: 31-32

    OOps!! Who’s to say the Zionist, not Jews, have not broken another covenant???
    I try to separate the Zionists actions from Jews…after all, it is known in many circles, Zionist run Israel.

  135. Zionism is the dream to return to an Israeli homeland. This happened after Jews were burned alived, raped and murdered for centuries in Europe. I have already commented that my family members were witnesses to this before they came to America. I had a Catholic polish uncle who died in a Nazi work camp, and also my step-father fought in WWIi and saw the horrors too. Let’s remember why Zionism came about. It was because of the horrible anti-semitism that is once again on the rise. J2j2, your comments are very disturbing.

  136. Interested Bystander

    Tina commented:

    “My point is Ron Paul supporters obsess all the time about Israel.”

    This is a joke right?

    It is YOUR like minded people who CONTINUALLY MISREPRESENT Paul’s stance on Israel.

    Paul has no choice but address the issue when he is constantly asked about it.

    I’d much rather debate UNITED STATES issues and NOT israeli issues on this blog.

    Paul wants to allow Israel to stand on it’s own, with our SUPPORT (just NOT financial support), and YOU constantly post that Paul is “anti-Israel”.

    Paul is for stopping ALL foriegn aid, but he is ONLY asked about funding for Israel. He CAN NOT be for stopping ALL foriegn aid and be FOR funding aid for Israel.

    Like I have commented many times before, stop MISrepresenting Paul’s stance on the issue, and I’ll stop correcting you.

    It seems to be those of your thinking who are “obessed” with the Israel foriegn aid issue.

  137. Interested Bystander @| May 21, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    I totally agree and it started in the 70s with the family unit breakdown.
    peace…jayjay

  138. It is no joke, IB. Just look at this thread. We are suppose to be talking about Obama’s eligibility. Folks comment on the Jews and Israel all the time who are Ron Paul supporters. I was not necessarily referring to you, but feel free to include yourself if you want. I defend Israel because my family were witnesses to the Holocaust and pogroms, even though, they personally were not Jewish. Israeli’s are very smart people who contribute to the betterment of the world constantly with their new ideas.

  139. j2j2 | May 21, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
    Get off the schlick, Oh, Israel is the promised land…blah–blah…even God deserted the Israelis once upon a time when they renigged on the contract He made with them.
    ***********************************
    You are still as hung up on the Zionist/israel issue as ever, I see. Your comments are hardly worth responding to, but, yes, it is true that God brought judgment to Israel (He never “deserted” them) and God will judge America if we persist in sinning against Him. The addition of a couple of digits to your moniker doesn’t change the real you – Same as two years ago……same nonsensical stuff.

  140. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    I thought the thread was about the double standard this teacher was using when discussing Romney and Obama.

    You know like Romney “wants to be” and Obama “is”.

  141. Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to Honolulu
    Cold Case Posse seeks to crack mystery of Obama’s birth 50 years ago

    In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii.

    The mission to Obama’s purported birthplace comes as the Hawaii Department of Health continues to resist efforts by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to verify that the Honolulu agency has a valid birth certificate on file for Obama…………
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu/

  142. Interested Bystander | May 22, 2012 at 12:32 am |
    Tina,

    I thought the thread was about the double standard this teacher was using when discussing Romney and Obama.

    You know like Romney “wants to be” and Obama “is”.

    ———

    Okay. Point taken, and Ron Paul is a loser who will never be POTUS.

  143. Interested Bystander

    cabby,

    I want to be clear that as I have commented MANY times, I think Israel has the “right” to excist, and they should do so with our SUPPORT.

    You can do that WITHOUT giving them money.

    I would argue that the United States’ intervention on many Israeli issues, has been looked at curisously by whatever “God” you choose to worship.

  144. Interested Bystander

    Tina commented:

    “Okay. Point taken, and Ron Paul is a loser who will never be POTUS.”

    And the Country will continue on this downward spiral until the “people” WAKE UP.

    You can call Paul a “loser” all you want, and as far as a NATIONAL figure, I will admit that he can’t gain traction (I have to point out that I believe that the MAIN reason for this is the LACK of POSITIVE media reporting). But you also have to acknowledge that Paul has represented the people of Texas for a long time, and has won many elections. He is in the House and has to run every two years.

    He decided NOT to run in his district to focus on National office.

    But I will also comment that Paul is a WINNER to a bunch of people out here Tina.

    Thank you Dr Paul for opening MY eyes wider.

  145. Okay. Good night Everyone. IB, I enjoyed our debate, even tough, we see things differently. I am not a Ron Paul supporter, and never ever will be, but respect that you are. Take care.

  146. Interested Bystander

    Tina,

    I have enjoyed our back and forth tonight except for when you brought my HABITS in to the fray.

    I think that’s wrong.

    Good night all (I took the night off by the way, going to try to lay down for a few hours and get up and go golfing in the morning).

  147. Peace, IB. Changing the subject, I hope Sheriff Joe has some good stuff this week. Night.

  148. “CONTROLLED ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, MOVE TOWARD GLOBALISM”

    “THE COMING WAR INSIDE AMERICA”

    Doug Hagmann
    Tuesday, January 3, 2012:

    Excerpt:

    “As the attention of most Americans was captivated by the shiny object in Times Square this weekend like infants fixated on car keys dangled in front of them, Barack Hussein Obama signed into law H.R. 1540, better known as the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Regardless of any concurrent executive signing statements that are mere window dressing and not legally binding, Obama and every member of congress who crafted and voted for this act has essentially declared war on American citizens on U.S. soil.”

    Read The Entire Article Here:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43630

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Please Read Doug Hagmann Archives Here:

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/1/Doug%20Hagmann/12

  149. jacqlynsmith

    Even the Israeli Chief agrees with the DOC……I’m sure this will be ignored by those here though that want to spew their lies about the good DOC!!!!!

    The Chief of the Israeli Mossad Agrees With Ron Paul

    JERUSALEM — The head of Israel’s intelligence agency says that a nuclear-armed Iran does not necessarily pose an existential threat to the Jewish state, according to Israeli ambassadors.

    Mossad chief Tamir Pardo addressed a conclave of Israeli ambassadors in Jerusalem on Thursday, saying that Israel’s existence is not inevitably endangered by Iran acquiring an atomic weapon, even as Israel has tried to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program.

    “What is the significance of the term ‘existential?’” Mr. Pardo was quoted as saying by several ambassadors. “If you said a nuclear bomb in Iranian hands was an ‘existential’ threat, that would mean that we would have to close up shop. That’s not the situation. The term is used too freely.”

    Continues here…..

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/29/israeli-spy-chief-downplays-iranian-nuke-threat/

  150. John in Illinois

    On Drudgereport now : Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to Honolulu. In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii. Drudge links to http://www.wnd.com

  151. jacqlynsmith

    Rafi Farber also did this video……so awesome……he espouses what all we Ron Paul supporters already know…….WOW……this needs to be plastered EVERYWHERE……

    What Is It About Ron Paul?

  152. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  153. John in Illinois | May 22, 2012 at 6:31 am |
    On Drudgereport now : Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to Honolulu. In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii. Drudge links to http://www.wnd.com
    ___________________________________________
    Think there are any honest law enforcement persons left in HI to accompany this legitimate group in order to obtain what HI law itself states must be available to such persons?

  154. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    “Like the German generals, American politicians reject moral accountability and value their power and prestige more than their duty to their country.” – Lawrence Sellin

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/22-05-2012/121200-hitler_generals_american_politicians-0/

  155. Ron Paul: Saving the American Health Care System

    Please watch the following videos and pass on to all.

    Ron Paul: Saving The American Health Care System Part 1

    Ron Paul: Saving the American Health Care System Part 2

    Ron Paul: Saving the American Health Care System Part 3

    Ron Paul: Saving the American Health Care System Part 4

    ObamaCare is RomneyCare 2.0
    Obamacare and Romneycare is identical!

  156. Could someone please explain this to me? Why does obama still have support from Jewish people? They are even selling obama yarmulkes again for the election.

    Back by popular demand! The original Obama Yarmulkes (or kippot) – widely known as “Obamulkes” – are here again, just in time for the 2012 re-election campaign!

    At least they’re made in the USA.

    http://obamulkes.com/

  157. A new American Jewish Committee poll found that 61 percent of Jews would vote for President Obama, 28 percent would vote for Mitt Romney, and 11 percent are undecided.

    Check out this comment there

    1. No US president in the foreseeable will abandon any ally. We may push Israel to do things they don’t like, but we’re not going to walk out the door and turn off the lights.
    2. If we need to drop Israel to ensure the security of the United States, then yes, I would take that route.
    3. Israel is a big boy now. They can take care of themselves quite well.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/98287/poll-shows-lowersteady-jews-for-obama

  158. Free Speech

    http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/139805/

    WND previously reported Davis, frequently accompanied by young Obama and his grandfather, sold marijuana and cocaine from a Chicago-style hot dog cart Davis operated near his home on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki in the early 1970s.

  159. Good Morning folks,

    Pertaining to the Sheriffs Cold Case Posse in Hawaii, I honestly don’t believe Hawaii will cooperate in any way with them. They will in fact continue to stonewall them and in turn come back home.

    I also believe that Hawaii will simply take their chances with the Arizona SOS placing Obama on the Ballot. As the SOS has stated before, he “may” consider it, he “might” not place Obama on the Ballot, a “simple” conformation will do, ect.. This leaves the gate wide open for interpretations of course.

    Lastly, Hawaii may also attempt to rely on the Arizona Courts when the time comes to force the SOS to place Obama on the ballot without surrendering one ioda of documents. For that matter, I don’t think Hawaii would even comply with a Federal Court order demanding a release.

    Just my opinion…

  160. Free Speech

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

    It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a hard-core pornographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene.

    In a surviving portion of an autobiographical manuscript, Mr Davis confirms that he was the author of Sex Rebel: Black after a reader had noticed the “similarities in style and phraseology” between the pornographic work and his poetry.

    “I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.” In the introduction to Sex Rebel, Mr Davis (writing as Greene) explains that although he has “changed names and identities…all incidents I have described have been taken from actual experiences”.

    He stated that “under certain circumstances I am bisexual” and that he was “ a voyeur and an exhibitionist” who was “occasionally mildly interested in sado-masochism”, adding: “I have often wished I had two penises to enjoy simultaneously the double – but different – sensations of oral and genital copulation.”

    The book, which closely tracks Mr Davis’s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex.

    One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her. “I’m not one to go in for Lolitas. Usually I’d rather not bed a babe under 20.

    “But there are exceptions. I didn’t want to disappoint the trusting child. At her still-impressionistic age, a rejection might be traumatic, could even cripple her sexually for life.”

    He then described how he and his wife would have sex with the girl. “Anne came up many times the next several weeks

  161. I am willing to bet that Arizona will wimp out and put Obama on the ballot. I doubt Hawaii will cough up anything either.

    Either way, while I admire Sheriff Joe, and think he is an incredibly brave man, his investigation is moving along at a snail’s pace. It’s like a drip, drip, drip just to keep it in the news.

  162. Just to add an afterthought,

    It would be interesting if the Cold Case Posse decides to drop by the Kapiolani Hospital. This is of course the Hospital Obama claims to be born. The sworn affidavit by Tim Adams (Of which I have on Scribd) hospitals being checked and non had any records pertaining to Obama. He didn’t say anything about who was or was not listed as the father, rather “NO RECORDS” on file.

  163. bob strauss

    “Think there are any honest law enforcement persons left in HI to accompany this legitimate group in order to obtain what HI law itself states must be available to such persons?”
    *****************************
    Observer,
    I hope so, and I bet most of the people in Hawaii, involved with Obama’s eligibility, are “lawyering up” about now.

    It’s a little more serious, when badge carrying officers show up at your door.

  164. FYI,

    In the case anyone wishes to review the Sworn Affidavit by Tim Adams, I saved it shortly after it was posted at Scribd. Since then, many researchers have claimed the link had be destroyed making it difficult to find and I have sent this to them in the past. I will post it here in case anyone wishes to review it.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/47511068/Sworn-Affidavit-by-Former-Hawaii-Senior-Elections-Clerk-Tim-Adams-No-Obama-Long-Form-Hospital-Generated-Birth-Certificate-on-File-1-20-2011

  165. bob strauss

    Gordo,
    Still chuckling about your Hawaii 5 O song, video. Go get em Danno!

  166. citizenwells

    Thanks William.

  167. Tina | May 22, 2012 at 9:56 am |
    I am willing to bet that Arizona will wimp out and put Obama on the ballot. I doubt Hawaii will cough up anything either.

    Either way, while I admire Sheriff Joe, and think he is an incredibly brave man, his investigation is moving along at a snail’s pace. It’s like a drip, drip, drip just to keep it in the news.
    _____________________________________
    I can find no logical reasoning to uphold that opinion about Arpaio. Sheesh. He had no choice but to decide which corrupt authority to give his findings/evidence to for further action. He made the decision knowing that the results would likely be just what they turned out to be…..lack of response and more protection of the materials to finalize the probable cause evidence. That is a major step with clout far beyond what anyone else has accomplished under a law enforcement authority with standing.

    The law enforcement official actually presenting himself to the HI DOH in person is for action and witness to inaction by HI against the law. That is subjecting one’s reputation and legal grounds to force the question….a line in the sand so to speak….a “bit” more than simply trying to keep something in the news by any drip, drip process as you say. Silliness!!

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