Catholic church don’t vote for Obama, St. Raphael Catholic Church El Paso, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State IRS complaint, Bulletin recension

Catholic church don’t vote for Obama, St. Raphael Catholic Church El Paso, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State IRS complaint, Bulletin recension

“Führer, my Führer, give me by God. Protect and preserve my life for long. You saved Germany in time of need. I thank you for my daily bread. Be with me for a long time, do not leave me, Führer, my Führer, my faith, my light, Hail to my Führer!”…Recited by Hitler youth

“Red and Yellow Black and White, all are equal in his sight, MMM MMM MMM, Barack Hussein Obama.”…Recited by school children in 2009

“However, when the CHD funds Alinsky-style, church-based community organizations as in the best interest of the poor and supports organizations which advance other agendas, it divests the poor of their right to an authentic voice. This process tends to treat the poor as exploited units of human capital, rather than as human beings created in the dignity of God’s image.”

“To accomplish its goals, as outlined in the People’s Platform, ACORN has developed a political alliance with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Together with others, ACORN and the DSA have formed a political party, the New Party.”…1997 report to the Catholic Bishops

From the El Paso Times September 11, 2012.

“National group complains to IRS over St. Raphael Catholic Church bulletin”

“A national group has complained to the IRS over improper electioneering by an El Paso Catholic church.

Americans United for the Separation of Church and State on Monday sent its complaint to the IRS about the Aug. 5 bulletin published by St. Raphael Parish on the city’s East Side.

The pastor of the parish has issued a written statement recanting the Aug. 5 bulletin, but the leader of the organization that complained to the IRS said damage might already have been done.

Churches are tax-exempt, as are donations to them. But IRS rules say they cannot tell people whom to vote for or against.

Apparently in reaction to President Barack Obama’s mandate that Catholic hospitals and universities cover birth-control
for women employees who want it, a passage in the St. Raphael bulletin told parishioners to vote against the president. Obama later attempted to modify the mandate, but the gesture did little to mollify some Catholics who believe artificial means of birth control are immoral.

“I am asking all of you to go to the polls and be united in replacing our present president with a president that will respect the Catholic Church in this country,” the last two sentences in the Aug. 5 St. Raphael bulletin say. “Please pass this on to all of your Catholic friends.”
After officials at the Diocese of El Paso were alerted last week to the message, the pastor of St. Raphael, Msgr. Francis J. Smith, wrote a message which was inserted into its bulletin.

“I am recanting the last two sentences from this statement as it was published on Aug. 5, 2012,” the message says. “I apologize and ask for your forgiveness if I have offended anyone. The last thing I wish to do is be offensive to my faith and the faithful.”

The language was a blatant violation of the law, the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, said in his letter to the Exempt Organizations Division of the IRS.

“The language that appeared in the bulletin — an official publication of the church — clearly encourages parishioners to vote against incumbent presidential candidate Barack Obama,” the letter says. “Since federal law prohibits tax-exempt, non-profit organizations (including houses of worship) from intervening in elections like this, I believe St. Raphael Church is in violation of the law.”

The Diocese of El Paso last week acknowledged that the passage violates IRS rules and the policy of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. A spokesman said the diocese would instruct Smith to “re-address” the article in the church’s bulletin.

Smith and diocesan officials didn’t respond to calls and emails Monday.

In a telephone interview, Lynn said his organization files 15 to 20 complaints such as the one against St. Raphael in a presidential-election year.

Last year, the organization complained to the IRS that El Pas’s Word of Life Church was improperly involving itself in electoral politics by using its Tom Brown Ministries website to encourage voters to recall Mayor John Cook and city Reps. Steve Ortega and Susie Byrd. Brown was angered that the officials voted to restore health benefits for gay and unmarried partners of city employees after he led a successful ballot initiative to end the practice in 2010.

IRS spokesman Clay Sanford on Monday would not comment on the complaint against St. Raphael.

“I can’t comment about specific, tax-exempt entities,” he said.

But an IRS publication, “Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations,” says, “Churches and religious organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”

Lynn said it was good that church officials acknowledged IRS rules, but they should have been known in the first place to anybody overseeing the St. Raphael bulletin.

“It may be a partial corrective, but the damage might already be done,” he said.

U.S. Catholic rules also prohibit the use of church resources to tell people how to vote.

“The Church’s leaders are to avoid endorsing or opposing candidates or telling people how to vote,” says a document issued by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship.”

The IRS can revoke churches’ tax exemptions and fine them for violating its rules, or it can levy milder sanctions that often are not public.

Lynn said religious leaders have broad latitude to discuss issues — such as abortion, birth control and execution — from the pulpit; they just can’t tell people how to vote. Churches also can invite candidates and their surrogates to speak to the congregation so long as they make a good-faith effort to invite both sides.

“There’s freedom of speech in the pulpit with modest restrictions,” Lynn said, adding that St. Raphael violated those restrictions.

Americans United for the Separation of Church and State last week filed a similar complaint against a Catholic Church in New York City — the Church of Saint Catherine. In its Sept. 2 bulletin, the complaint says, a priest urged parishioners to vote for Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Lynn is a minister in the United Church of Christ, although he now only officiates at ceremonies on a part-time basis. He said there are hazards beyond breaking the law when pastors and other religious leaders tell people how to vote.

“When you start getting into partisan politics, you start dividing the congregation very deeply,” he said.”

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_21508691/national-group-complains-irs-over-st-raphael-catholic

From Last Resistance September 12, 2012.

“The ban on political campaign activity by charities and churches was created by Congress more than a half century ago. The Internal Revenue Service administers the tax laws written by Congress and has enforcement authority over tax-exempt organizations. Here is some background information on the political campaign activity ban and the latest IRS enforcement statistics regarding its administration of this congressional ban.

“In 1954, Congress approved an amendment by Sen. Lyndon Johnson to prohibit 501(c)(3) organizations, which includes charities and churches, from engaging in any political campaign activity. To the extent Congress has revisited the ban over the years, it has in fact strengthened the ban. The most recent change came in 1987 when Congress amended the language to clarify that the prohibition also applies to statements opposing candidates.”

This so-called ban is a direct violation of the First Amendment. The First Amendment states, “Congress shall make no law. . . .” In 1954, Congress made a law prohibiting churches from speaking out on political issues and endorsing candidates. The logic is simple. Since Congress passed such a law, then Congress violated the Constitution. This makes the law null and void.

If you are a pastor who believes in the freedoms outlined in the First Amendment and want to challenge these leftist organizations and the IRS, then I have a deal for you. The Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian legal advocacy group, will defend you.

“In response to more than 50 years of threats and intimidation by activist groups wielding the Johnson Amendment as a sword against the Church, ADF began the Pulpit Initiative in 2008. The goal of the Pulpit Initiative is simple: have the Johnson Amendment declared unconstitutional — and once and for all remove the ability of the IRS to censor what a pastor says from the pulpit.

“ADF is actively seeking to represent churches or pastors who are under investigation by the IRS for violating the Johnson Amendment by preaching biblical Truth in a way that expresses support for — or opposition to — political candidates. ADF represents all of its clients free of charge.”

Don’t be bullied. It’s time to take a stand for Jesus Christ. Your future and the future of your children are at stake. If you want more information, go to the Alliance Defending Freedom site at http://speakupmovement.org/church/LearnMore/details/4702″

http://lastresistance.com/41/church-says-dont-vote-for-obama/

 

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77 responses to “Catholic church don’t vote for Obama, St. Raphael Catholic Church El Paso, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State IRS complaint, Bulletin recension

  1. Cover-up Over Obama’s Eligibility – Will CNN be Charged with RICO?
    Posted on September 12, 2012

    ©Bridgette@WTPOTUS 2012
    Major Media Network CNN
    Claimed They Had Obama’s Birth Certificate…

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/

  2. The rule of course is only applied to those churches advocating religious freedom. It is perfectly acceptable to the IRS if Valerie Jarrett or Reverend Wright order people to vote for mr. soetero.

  3. Not only should Catholics not vote for Obama, Jewish voters who vote for Obama are in effect voting for the destruction of Israel.

  4. This is an outrage that Romney is not being briefed! From FreeRepublic:

    Romney does not get national security briefings
    CBS ^ | 9/12/12 | Sarah B. Boxer

    Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:50:40 AM by EBH

    Mitt Romney does not currently receive national security briefings, his campaign confirmed to CBS News today.

    Typically, presidential candidates begin receiving briefings after securing their party’s nomination, which Romney did in Tampa two weeks ago.

    “It’s a long-standing practice for presidential candidates and select advisers to be provided intelligence briefings following the party’s nominating convention,” Shawn Turner, the spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, told CNN in June. “During the last presidential campaign, all the candidates began receiving briefings in September following the conventions.”

    Turner tells CBS News the process is “moving forward.”

    “The Intelligence Community is working closely with the Romney campaign to finalize the logistics for the candidate briefings,” he told CBS News. “The process is moving forward on schedule and we are not aware of any concerns.”

    (Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com …

  5. Simply bring up precedent of black churches, not only blatantly being told by “pastors” to vote for Obama or else, but they have Obama promoters and reps “preach” within their churches….same for the various “churches of what’s happenin now”. This is the next step in the attempt to end social conscience which reminds people of their sins so a world where up is down and down is up can exist without accountability to the natural law.

  6. I personally believe that the Catholic Church will put such a weight upon Soetoro in November that not even all of the election fraud that they can muster will overcome the angered Catholic vote. Nor will all the Black Muslims at the entrances deter anybody. I would expect that right minded people might very well go to vote carrying legally licensed firearms. If a Black Muslim attempts to physically interfere with somebody he might very well be rewarded with a .45 caliber hole between his eyes,and all the rest of those who attempt to interfere with voters. I am praying that these STINKING examples of ILLITERATE,and otherwise MORONIC stature decide to stay away from the polls. That would be the SMART thing to do.

  7. After years of slowly and subtly brainwashing the people, dismantling their thinking apparatus, and desecrating the standards of morality, the conspirators in high places are now ready to move beyond socialism to totalitarianism.
    Last Trumpet Newsletter
    Volume XXIX Issue IV April 2010
    Last Trumpet Ministries, PO Box 806, Beaver Dam, WI 53916
    Internet: http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

  8. What If November Changes Nothing?

    by Andrew P. Napolitano

    What if the principal parties’ candidates for president really agree more than they disagree?

    What if they both support the authority of the federal government to spy on Americans without search warrants? What if they both support confining foreigners, uncharged and untried, in Guantanamo Bay? What if they both believe the president can arrest without charge and confine without trial any American he hates or fears?

    What if they both believe in secret courts – kept away from the public and the press – that can take away the rights of Americans? What if they both think the president can disregard the Constitution when it comes to the rights of those the government has confined to speedy trials, to confront witnesses and evidence against them, and to counsel of their choosing? What if they both believe the government can use evidence obtained under torture at trials in American courts? What if they both think the president can incarcerate those he once prosecuted, even after acquittal?

    http://commieblaster.com/index.html

  9. ANNOUNCING: Rocky Mountain Pictures Will Follow Up “2016: Obama’s America” with “Hating Breitbart” – Due Out in Theaters October 12

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/announcing-rocky-mountain-pictures-will-follow-2016-obamas-america-with-hating-breitbart-due-out-in-theaters-october-12/

    I don’t know, but I doubt if this one will generate the same kind of interest as 2016 did….except for the more limited “in the know” crowd.

  10. It will be such a JOY to watch the frightened LIBERALS RUN squealing for their filthy little holes in the ground as the Catholic Church applies the FIX to Soetoro in November. I look forward to the melee with great relish,and I will dance around each of the SQUEALING LIBERAL SUB HUMANS as they scurry for the safety of the DIRTY LITTLE HOLES IN THE GROUND IN WHICH THEY LIVE. I will take particular relish watching MMMMMSSSSS. Jarrett reap her JUST DESERTS. I will be LAUGHING,and enjoying every minute of wild,and frenzied attempts of the LIBERALS to HIDE. Soetoro is going to receive one of the worst defeats in election history,if not THE WORST DEFEAT EVER RECORDED,after which I pray that he is brought to prosecution for his treasonous acts against America,along with ALL who supported him. Just as was the case with Hitler’s crowd at Neurenberg. An example needs to be made,so that the MORONS,and ILLITERATES among us might see the truth. I also PRAY that the Catholics come out in HORDES. I personally INVITE ALL Catholics to VOTE in November,and vote their CONSCIENCE.

  11. Observer………
    It certainly appears that ALL OF THE KISSING COUSINS to JOSEPH GOEBBELS are plunking down the cash to create their PROPAGANDA FILMS. Such films were common during WW2,and reflected some really insane logic. It was clear that they tried very hard to make people believe that UP is really DOWN, and the alleged forthcoming film will be NO DIFFERENT. Get your butterred popcorn ready! It will be like watching a ROADRUNNER CARTOON.

  12. Bob Strauss………..re 9:48 AM
    ………THEN I would expect those in America who love this country as I do, to pick up a rifle, and do exactly what was done in 1776. The directions are in the Declaration of Independence.

  13. Observer……….re 10:05 AM
    Isn’t that what you would expect from a SUB HUMAN culture?

  14. Ten times worse than Watergate!
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  15. Obama in the Buff
    By Jeffrey Folks

    “The emperor has no clothes!” That was the cry of a small child in the Hans Christian Andersen tale as the emperor made his way past, entirely unclothed, while no one had the nerve to speak up.

    That’s pretty much the situation today. With the recent exception of Maureen Dowd’s scathing critique of Obama’s convention acceptance speech (“My fellow citizens, you were the change…We were the change?”), there hasn’t been much media criticism of the president. Liberal commentators continue to gloss over the mistakes of the most partisan and inept administration in our history.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/obama_in_the_buff.html#ixzz26MKTWm7b

  16. …….If “SO CALLED” Americans are afraid to even protect the country then they DESERVE everything that happens……and a LOT WILL INDEED HAPPEN! Those COWARDS who refuse to protect their own country and families will be among the first to be murdered,simply because our enemies have no respect for such people EITHER.

  17. oldsailor80 | September 13, 2012 at 10:10 am |
    *************************
    Let’s see what happens after November, I truly believe Romney will run a tight ship, if given the chance.

  18. Bob Strauss……….
    I would rate it as INFINITELY worse…….the damage to our country so far is BEYOND MEASURE.

  19. Another report on treatment of the Ambassador.

    Looks like they’re making the “movie” that they despise so much play out in reality.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/mideast-media-say-amb-christopher-stevens-was-raped-before-killed/

  20. As Zach pointed out yesterday, we are reliving the Carter years only worse.

  21. observer | September 13, 2012 at 10:21 am |

    Another report on treatment of the Ambassador.

    Looks like they’re making the “movie” that they despise so much play out in reality.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/mideast-media-say-amb-christopher-stevens-was-raped-before-killed/

    *********************************
    America should leave that Hellhole, called the middle east, to it’s own demise.

  22. The SLIMY middle East SUB HUMAN CULTURE who pretend to be such upstanding representations of their alleged religions, are in reality NOTHING more than mentally derranged purveyors of sex with their NANNY GOATS. There is far more truth in this than has ever been told. That is basically why they would not hesitate to rape a MALE before murdering him. If they will have sex with their own animals then it is conceiveable that they will rape a male human without mercy. Such a culture are the LOWEST OF THE LOWEST form of HUMANITY. Yet these are the very people who our ALLEGED POTUS SUPPORTS.They are in reality themselves ANIMALS. Yet a movie incites such anger. Hell these ANIMALS will use ANY EXCUSE to do what they do best.

  23. CW…………
    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!! SADLY IT IS IMMEASUREABLY WORSE!

  24. bye bye all God Bless!

  25. Poll: Obama holds 8-point lead over Romney among Catholic voters

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/12/poll-obama-holds-10-point-lead-over-romney-among-catholic-voters/

    Are they that clueless or Catholics in name only?

  26. Philo-Publius,

    You hit the nail on the very head.

    If Catholics and the Hispanic community in general, had any moral compass at all, the upcoming election would be in the bag for Romney. Unfortunately, their ideology comes way before before their religion.

    You can throw most Jews in that same group, I am sorry to say.

    If you would like to see someones true devotion to their faith, please go to

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/

  27. Philo-Publius………..
    If you poll ONLY liberals your poll will reflect only liberal views. That is why polls are not really reliable.

  28. Ray…………
    You are DEAD ON THE MONEY!!! It would seem that our ALLEGED SOCIETY as a whole has DETERIORATED into a horde of HORSES A$$ES. They can’t see behind or ahead of themselves!

  29. I got this in an email…posting it here:Sandy
    PRAY AS NEVER BEFORE FOR ISRAEL!

    WHILE I’M UNABLE TO VERIFY THIS REPORT, I KNOW PRAYERS WILL NOT BE WASTED. THIS FRIEND SAYS IT IS THE MOST SERIOUS HE’S WITNESSED IN HIS TIME IN ISRAEL.. REGARDLESS OF WHAT MR. OBAMA OR DNC THOUGHT TO DO… WE ABSOLUTELY MUST SEEK GOD’S HELP AND INTERVENTION!!
    My friend, Ray’s, brother and his family live in Jerusalem – he is a minister and former Navy SEAL, with an office located close to one of Israel’s largest underground military bases. Calling last night, which is very unusual – usually it is email, to say that he is sending his family back to the US immediately due to what he is seeing occur within the last week and what is being inferred by his military contacts in both there and US, noting he is seeing military movements the likes of which he has never seen in his 20+ years in Israel. What he called a massive redeployment and protective tactics of forces is underway.

    Over the last two days he has seen anti-aircraft missile deployments throughout the Jerusalem area including 3 mobile units he can see from his office windows. In addition, he has seen very large Israeli armored columns moving fast toward the Sinia where Egypt has now moved in Armor. There are said to be reports of top military leaders meeting with Israel’s Sr. Rabbi which is something that has happened preceding every prior military campaign.

    His admonition was to watch carefully and pray for Israel and its people.

    He is convinced that, barring something extraordinary, Israel will attack Iran – with or without the US – and very soon. It is the belief in Israel that Obama does not stand with Israel but with the Arab countries. He has told me before that Israel will saber rattle from time to time but that this time is very different from what he is seeing and hearing. He was at the Wailing Wall 2 days ago and there were hundreds of IDF soldiers there. As he was leaving he passed at least 20 military buses full of soldiers in route to the wall. He has never seen this before either.

    The brother is by no means an alarmist . Ray says,”When he talks like this it gets my attention for sure and usually I find he knows more than he shares”. There are reports that Israel is asking Obama to come to Israel immediately but they are being answered with silence.

    It is the opinion of some that this is the making of the perfect storm.

  30. Ray………..
    It really saddens me to say that a hellof a lot of our ALLEGED society has deteriorated to a SNIVELING mass who think that everything should be GIVEN to them FREE OF CHARGE,and not have to work for anything………..just lay around,watch porn,and do drugs,and never again take a bath, just stay stoned and STINK.

  31. I personally believe that if Israel would attack Iran the US might even attack Israel. This could be,and is well within the realm of possibility. If the US would do this it would FINISH our country,and clearly expose the intended future of the US for ALL Americans to see. So it is easy to see what the supporters of Soetoro advocate…..including those who vote for him. He isn’t even a legally elected POTUS.

  32. How true was this article in the Czech Republic published in the Prager Zeitung of 28, April 2010.

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

  33. I heard this too on Rush: that the Marines were ordered by State Dept not to have live ammo. What were they supposed to do against these prehistoric thugs, fisticuffs? And all the regime is running around exclaiming “what happened? what went wrong? how could this happen?” We’re sooooo sorry to the deads’ families…..not our fault of course.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/13/report-marines-guarding-u-s-embassy-in-cairo-not-allowed-to-carry-live-ammunition/

    Report: Marines Guarding U.S. Embassy In Cairo Not Allowed To Carry Live Ammunition…

    U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

    Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

  34. No Live Ammo for Marines

    U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

    http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

  35. CBS News Boss: We’re Not Biased

    The President of CBS News told the Greater Chamber’s annual Economic Outlook Conference that claims by conservatives that his network, and the rest of what has derisively been labeled as the ‘mainstream media’ are simply ‘labels’ and David Rhodes said those labels ‘don’t stick.’…In fact, Rhodes said CBS is a beacon of unbiased news…

    http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10413935

  36. Now here is an administration person blatantly campaigning for Obama at official function, yet people want to take away Catholic tax exempt status because Obama is mentioned in a bulletin AFTER Obama openly persecutes with threats against Catholics. Continuing the pick and choose justice system…Obots don’t get just punishment while others don’t even get their already written freedoms under their own Constitution.

    Wrist Slap!
    White House: Sebelius unlikely to be punished for violating Hatch Act

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/#ixzz26NOPhRE9

  37. Everyone…
    So as NOT to evoke panic or undue stress here, and to NOT appear to be a kook, I will couch this message as a ‘public service assist’ for any who choose to listen.
    First off, the consideration must be realized that we live in a world where communication is an essential element in our day to day living. Conversely, it can be the unwilling contributor to the escalation of events, in far away places, that can directly, physically effect us. Before the days of the cell phone and computers, information could take days to travel around the world. Today it only takes a few seconds. In view of this fact, I believe it would serve one well to pay particular attention to what is happening politically on a global scale. Where we once had days, or even hours to respond to threats, we now may only have minutes, and not many of those.
    Should we (any of us) be the target of an attack involving the discharge of NBC (nuclear, biological, or chemical) weapons from any source, our absolute first priority needs to be personal survival. Having had extensive (CBR) military training in this venue (I was an instructor), I can say, with a degree of certainty, that these events are indeed survivable. Unfortunately, our “protectors” have done, at best, a shoddy job (compared to other nations) of advising us as to what we can do to protect ourselves. This, then, begs the question, “what have you done to provide for your own survival”…should you become faced with the unthinkable?
    What is your fist priority?…to breathe!…You should have at least an NBC certified breathing apparatus (mask) and spare filters. They are currently readily available, and relatively cheap. They won’t be after an attack! Along with a mask (preferably with a drinking tube), you will need some type of protective clothing…preferably neoprene (you can’t let this stuff get on your skin…not even a teensy drop), to include gloves and something to go over foot gear which is waterPROOF. The next thing you will absolutely need is water…enough for several weeks. The rest of this crazy scenario you can develop on your own….as your protectors have left you anyway. But these two things are essential, cost little, are available, and you don’t have to be self conscious in keeping them around (but keep them readily available).

  38. HonorFirst | September 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm |

    I got this in an email…posting it here:Sandy
    PRAY AS NEVER BEFORE FOR ISRAEL!
    ______________________________

    I will! I have heard this exact info from other sources. Bless you. I beleive it’s true.

  39. CWV, you are not a kook.

  40. SueQ
    Thank you…now that I’m not considered a kook…
    …a nuclear attack…
    We are surrounded continually by electromatic radiation in the form of infrared…from fireplaces and other low frequency heat sources (even our own bodies….colors…spectral medium frequency radiation…allows us to see things in color (off the upper scale and you get a sunburn)…radio…high fequency radiation provides us with sounds and visual entertainment from high frequency to ultra high frequency…x-ray..(in extremely low and controlled doses) provides us with imaging for medical and security uses…
    In uncontrolled circumstances, such as a sudden release of electron-stripped energy of rare elements from either a dirty or tactical weapon, causes a chain reaction, releasing vast amounts of x-ray, and gamma radiation at the outset. Because light travels very fast, the first thing you would experience will be a blinding flash of light . Brighter than 10,000 suns. If you are looking into a night sky, it will be the last thing you will ever see, as you would be permanently blinded. This would be accompanied by heat so intense that, if you are close enough you will not have to worry about your gas mask as you will simply evaporate along with the building you are in, your car, etc…If you survive this, you would then experience a brown to black out of electronic equipment. This is due to an electro-magnetic pulse which, depending on proximity, will fry most anything containing a silicon chip. This is because the memory portion of a chip is controlled magnetically (yes, your car will likely not run)… Next will come a sound ranging from a faint rumble to a loud crack…again, depending on proximity. This will be followed by a shock wave driven by the displacement and compressing of air, creating a flattening of most structures. Because of this displacement of air (which creates a vacuum at ground zero), there will shortly be a reversal of flow as the displaced air is sucked back into the initial blast site and carried skyward with a force far beyond that of the greatest tornado.
    This information is not intended to scare anyone, but rather to help understand the physics involved. As all this vaporized and irradiated material on the ground has gone skyward, it stands to reason that at some point it will all come back to ground level once again. This is called fallout. You do not want to be in fallout if you can help it (and no, it does not glow in the dark). Stay indoors for at least 24-48 hours if possible. Also if possible, try not to be downwind of the blast site as the winds will be carrying this fallout along at altitude thus making any area downwind unsafe for a long while. When is it safe? Again, that depends on a number of factors so, at least give it a couple of weeks before moving about, again, if possible. There are some simple radiac meters (dosimeters) on the market currently, that will monitor your cumulative dose of radiation exposure. These are cheap and simple to use…you should have one.

  41. State Officials Considering Obama Citizenship
    Michigan Chronicle via Huffington Post

    Kansas officials plan to hold a hearing Thursday afternoon to weigh whether President Barack Obama is a citizen and should appear on the state’s November ballot.

    The Kansas Objections Board will be considering a challenge filed by Joe Montgomery, a Manhattan resident, who Monday objected to Obama being on the ballot. He claims the president is not an American citizen since his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom and Kenya. The all-Republican board — which consists of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer and Attorney General Derek Schmidt — has the power to remove Obama from the ballot in his mother’s home state.

    Montgomery, the communications coordinator for the College of Veterinary Medicine at Kansas State University, said in his filing that he does not believe Obama meets the criteria for citizenship because of his father’s citizenship. He cites several Supreme Court rulings in the filing, which he says validate his argument. In the filing, Montgomery said that the rulings show a “natural born citizen” is a person born of two American citizens.

    Montgomery wrote:

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/kansas-officials-hold-hearing-to.html

  42. The Last Word on Voting – corbettreport

    An excellent speech I found and wanted to share. It has an especially excellent finish so please at least read the last three paragraphs at the link:

    corbettreport.com/beyond-politics

    By James Corbett
    corbettreport.com
    September 12, 2012

    The sheer absurdity of the spectacle of the modern electoral process is nowhere more apparent than in the American presidential race.

    Just like the Olympic games, every four years the presidential election comes around to distract and entertain the masses, and, just like the Olympic games, the proceedings are accompanied by much pomp, ceremony and pageantry and almost nothing at all of substance. The three-ring circus that is the race for the White House plays itself out with a tawdry predictability: the primaries energize the party base and introduce the key themes for the election cycle. Immediately, these are reduced in media coverage of the debates to memes, vague concepts and one-word appeals to the lowest common intellectual denominator: economy, jobs, defense, welfare. By the time the left-right farce of the two-way debates gets underway, any pretence that there are actual issues at stake have been brushed aside. It is no longer about politics, but vacuous slogans: “Hope and Change” vs. “Country First.” “Forward” vs. “Believe in America.” It might as well be red vs. blue, Coke vs. Pepsi, or fork vs. spoon.
    ..
    ..

    Continue at the link above or just watch the video.

  43. Coldwarvet, thank you for your very informative post. I appreciate your sincerity and your knowledge. I have no trust in this administration. I pray that peace will reign in the middle east and that sanity will be restored in the White House. May our Lord bless us and protect us. PRAY!

  44. Freudian Slip: Mixed-Kid Obama Now Says He Was Born To Single Mom; No Goat Herder?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/freudian-slip-mixed-kid-obama-now-says.html

  45. Posted July 10, 2008
    From NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann

    Michelle Obama:

    “Obama used the roundtable audience, as she did yesterday, to describe her husband’s understanding of women’s issues through the prism of the strong — but sometimes struggling — women in his life.

    His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was “very young and very single when she had him.””

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx

  46. An email I received, and felt compelled to share.
    ****************************

    Subject: FW: THE GREAT BOAT LIFT OF 9/11/2001

    THIS WILL TOUCH YOUR HEART!

    This is great, I never knew this happened.
    9/11 Boat Lift take your time and bear with it, it’s worth it!!!
    “http://www.youtube.com/embed/MDOrzF7B2Kg?rel=0″

  47. Yep, Gordo, all he’s doing is agreeing with Mooch! Adds additional meaninglessness to his phony BC.

  48. From “US Department of State” site:
    ———-
    “Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother”

    “A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 309(c) of the INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and if the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth. The mother must be genetically related to the person in order to transmit U.S. citizenship.”

    http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html

  49. Kansas Ballot Comittee delays decision. The Board members want “certified documents” from three (3) States. Article MSNBC, still can’t post links.

  50. James | September 13, 2012 at 9:10 pm |

    Kansas Ballot Committee delays decision. The Board members want “certified documents” from three (3) States. Article MSNBC, still can’t post links
    *****************************
    Why three States?

  51. Gordo………….
    What was the law in 1961? It could not be the same because the age of adulthood was NOT 18, it was then 21 years of age,and since his mother was a minor she could not confer citizenship upon her BASTARD son. Very few people seem to grasp the difference between now and 1961 with regard to age of responsibility. Yes it is now 18 years of age and all present laws will apply. But in 1961 the Federal OF AGE law was still 21 years of age. Lots of difference!

  52. …….In 1961 anyone who was underthe age of 21 was a minor and could not LEGALLY engage in any contractual obligations,could not vote, and could not pass on or otherwise confer any legal status to another person, including children born to the underage person.

  53. Bob Strauss………..
    Certified documents from 3 states is a RUSE. They know that there are no certified documents to date with regard to Soetoro’s eligibility,and that it is unlikely that any exist. So they request it because it makes it all look above board when they certify him as eligible in Kansas. They WILL CERTIFY Soetoro as ELIGIBLE in spite of all the evidence.

  54. Does this statement make it simpler to be classified as a citizen if one is born out of wedlock (not of course NBC) abroad?:

    http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-9757.html

    (c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

    Now re: out of wedlock but of a U.S. citizen father the requirements:

    INA: ACT 309 – CHILDREN BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK

    Sec. 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409]

    (a) The provisions of paragraphs (c), (d), (e), and (g) of section 301, and of paragraph (2) of section 308, shall apply as of the date of birth to a person born out of wedlock if-

    (1) a blood relationship between the person and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence,

    (2) the father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the person’s birth,

    (3) the father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years, and

    (4) while the person is under the age of 18 years-

    (A) the person is legitimated under the law of the person’s residence or domicile,

    (B) the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or

    (C) the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.

    Soooo, even if Obama had U.S. citizen parents (Davis?) he wouldn’t qualify as NBC it would appear since true paternity was not established as stated above.

  55. Re: KS

    http://cjonline.com/news/2012-09-13/kansas-panel-delays-ballot-decision-obama#comment-form

    It would be simpler if this board would just request the exact copy of the electronically generated online BC which is stated to be the scanned copy of said HI DOH original. They either get it or they don’t place name on ballot….none of these obfuscating statements from various people at HI DOH as substitutes. Boy, the comments at above link are just plainly threatening if Zero gets knocked off ballot. It may make people think they’re in Egypt rioting West!!

  56. Remember this fellow?? Has a $60,000,000 bounty on his head by Al Qaeda:

    Interview with Father Zakaria Botros, ‘Radical Islam’s Bane’

    http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=33761

  57. coldwarvet2 | September 13, 2012 at 5:31 pm |

    Hi CWV,

    You are spot on with your analysis and thank you for posting it.

    I have worked in the CBRN field over the last several years and am currently in the RN end of it.

    A few points: One ‘dirty’ bomb would not likely cause sufficient “Rad’ damage because most often, it is a small, portable device; anything larger would require additional heavy lead shielding and wouldn’t exactly be easy to transport. If the shielding was not provided, the bearer would be killed before reaching his target, Remember the Rad mantra: Time, distance, shielding.

    One dirty bomb set off in NYC, let’s say, would not be a huge deal however, 20 of them in various strategic locations in the city, would be, While the amount of radiation contained therein would be negligible, multiple dirty bombs would yield the desired effect: Panic.

    In light of the current situation with Iran, we need to think about the worst case scenario: A detonation or airburst.

    Pray that doesn’t happen.

    We monitor air and precipitation constantly for any isotope other than the ordinary K-40, as do many other arrays throughout the country. We caught the plume coming over from Fukushima in the Northeast last spring; the instrumentation is so sensitive that we can detect any isotope well below the minimum detectable activity.

    We are watching….

  58. Bob, Hawaii, Missisippi and Arizona. A decision possible on Monday.

  59. SueK
    Glad you folks are on the job…
    My post was more to inform those who might just not know what to do…there is no more helpless feeling. We, as individuals, can do no more than to survive, but that is some small victory in itself and knowledge is power…
    by the way…100R/H is considered the trigger for action. My hope is that there are going to be those who will be able to take some kind of action should we, heaven forbid, have a nuclear confrontation among super powers. Justr being basically prepared is somewhat of a comfort. I know, from your standpoint in treatment, that it will be a great help if some seeking treatment were to have a reliable dosimeter reading.

  60. James | September 13, 2012 at 11:43 pm |

    Bob, Hawaii, Missisippi and Arizona. A decision possible on Monday.
    **************************
    Not holding my breath.

  61. Report: Hillary Ignored Warnings

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/13/Obama-Hillary-ignored-warnings-Libyan-embassy

    Today, the Independent is reporting shocking details about the attack on the Libyan consulate that resulted in the death of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. The details are so explosive that they will result in a Congressional investigation. In fact, they’re so explosive that they should result in the resignation of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The only question now: What did Hillary Clinton know, and when did she know it?

  62. That’s right….take attention off Obama’s failures that caused this crisis and not hold him responsible:

    Feds Hunt Down Filmmaker Behind Anti-Muslim Video – UPDATED

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/09/13/feds-hunt-filmmaker

    Federal officials are on the hunt for the filmmaker behind an anti-Muslim movie which some claim was the spark behind this week’s violence in the Middle East.

  63. It seems to be apparent now that the anti-Muslim video is being used as a pretext, or an excuse, if you will, to further foment the mideastern violence.
    Have you ever heard this definition? “An ‘excuse’ is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.”

    Under Obama we have “sown to the wind and are now reaping the whirlwind” over there. Tonight a reporter on the ground in Egypt said that several months ago the protesters were clamoring for liberty; the ones today are of a much different class of people – very radical and generally poorer, and their message today is death to the USA.

  64. The delay on the Obama’s eligibility decision is a relatively good sign. The Kansas Objections board, SOS, AG and Lt. Gov, could not come up with a legal reason to declare that Obama was constitutionally eligible and to justifiably disagree with the objection. Obama’s legal counsel did not make a compelling counterargument.

  65. Jack Cashill:

    “A Possible Explanation for Obama’s Connecticut Social Security Number”

    “Joel Gilbert suggests a more likely explanation. In doing his research in Hawaii, Gilbert heard from several sources that pre-statehood, every institution or branch of government in Hawaii was dominated by the Japanese syndicate known as the “Yakuza, the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU), and a complicit bureaucracy. “After statehood in 1959 the Federal Government came in, and the syndicate went underground, but maintained the same control, and does so to this day,” says Gilbert.

    “Hawaii was and is a corrupt state,” Gilbert continues. He was told by retired Honolulu police detectives that in the state bureaucracy, “anything could be purchased, including Social Security numbers.” These were real numbers, likely available because the original card holder was dead. The sellers trafficked in SSNs that did not originate in Hawaii. That way, if the person using the phony SSN were ever caught, the crime would be traced back to the issuing state, not the Hawaii office.

    Gilbert’s theory is that the SSN problem is related to the question of Obama’s birth certificate, which is required to get a SSN. Lacking a valid birth certificate, Obama was forced to buy an SSN so he could get his first job at the Baskin Robbins in 1977. In this theory, Obama was sold an SSN that was Connecticut-based so it couldn’t be traced back to the Hawaii office.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/a_possible_explanation_for_obamas_connecticut_social_security_number.html

  66. Good Morning All! I watched my first Glenn Beck on DISH. The news program, Real News, is really good. It’s set up as a panel with experts brought in to go deeper into the news of the day. It on channel 212 on DISH. I enjoyed the news and Glenn’s segment. Even though he a butt for the way he treats people who have questions about Obama’s eligibility, he does provide info people need to have.

  67. Gordo – I found myself agreeing with Cashill’s article. If you don’t get Dish, the following is worth watching on the Blaze: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/experts-tell-beck-about-islamists-chilling-ten-year-plan-for-the-west/

  68. Good morning Zach, et al.

  69. Zach,

    Thanks for the info in Glenn Beck on Dish. I just turned it on.

    I quit following him over his stance on the usurper issue. But IMHO he was threatened.

    He produces some good stuff and I wish him well. I hope it is highly successful. It won’t take many viewers to out pace the garbage channels.

  70. PLEASE watch this one this is totally un-believable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hidden camera in MINNESOTA voting… Wait till you see this… The first 60 seconds tells the story!

    This is why the Just-Us Department, under Eric Holder, will do everything to stop voter ID. If you are unaware, Eric Holder is attempting to stop Florida from purging a few hundred thousand illegal, dead, felons from the voter rolls.

    Florida is using information supplied by the Department of Homeland Security (aka, America ’s KGB) to ascertain who should or should not be on the rolls yet Holder is attempting to stop them. I wonder why. Well I really don’t because the only way communists can get elected in this country is to run under the democrat banner, be protected by the MSM and get as many illegal voters into the polling places as possible.

    ALL OF OBAMA’S ACORN VOLUNTEERS WILL BE OUT COLLECTING STACKS OF ABSENTEE VOTER FORMS TO FILL IN TO VOTE FOR OBAMA WITHOUT ANY IDENTIFICATION REQUIRED, NO NOTARIZED SIGNATURE ON FORMS ETC. LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THIS TO THE END. THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. THE FIX IS IN! NO WONDER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT WANT THE STATES TO REQUIRE I.D. IN ORDER TO VOTE. . Do you think Obama can’t win? Hidden camera in MN voting LINK:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GqMVxeZhflI&feature=p

  71. ksdb | September 14, 2012 at 5:56 am |

    The delay on the Obama’s eligibility decision is a relatively good sign. The Kansas Objections board, SOS, AG and Lt. Gov, could not come up with a legal reason to declare that Obama was constitutionally eligible and to justifiably disagree with the objection. Obama’s legal counsel did not make a compelling counterargument.
    ************************************
    If the board follows suite, they are looking for a way to skirt the law and kick the can to SCOTUS.

  72. The Rising of the Clowns in Obamaland
    Citizens, we aren’t just dealing with the Marxist clowns in the Obama administration, we are listening and reading what the Leftist Clowns in the media are feeding to this nation and asking them to digest in accordance with the Head Clown’s agenda.

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/

  73. Friday, September 14, 2012
    Notices About Obama ID Fraud Sent to Every State Attorney General and Secretary of State
    Letters About Obama ID Issues Sent to Every
    State Attorney General and Secretary of State in U.S.
    By CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)

    Letters from Mr. Tom Ballantyne, former LTC Terry Lakin, COL Lawrence Sellin (Ret), CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret), and Mr. Gary Wilmott sent to every state Attorney General and Secretary of State in U.S. putting them on Notice About Obama’s ID Fraud and Lack of Constitutional Eligibility – 05 Sep 2012

    Read the letters to every state’s AG here (AND BELOW): http://www.scribd.com/doc/105861753/Letter-Sent-to-Every-State-Attorney-General-in-U-S-05-Sep-2012

    Similar letters were also sent to the Secretary of State for every state in the U.S. Read the letters to every state’s SOS here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/105873937/Letter-About-Obama-ID-Issues-sent-to-Every-Sate-Secretary-of-State-in-U-S-05-Sep-2012

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

  74. From the EIB network.
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    Check out http://facebook.com/Generation45 and http://Generation45.net/

  75. Obama Was Member Of Gay Bath House”Mans Country”In Chicago?

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