2012 election stolen?, Ohio Pennsylvania Florida irregularities, Voting machine problems, One of five Ohio voters probably ineligible, Florida errors should dictate recount

2012 election stolen?, Ohio Pennsylvania Florida irregularities, Voting machine problems, One of five Ohio voters probably ineligible, Florida errors should dictate recount

“the organization has come under intense scrutiny because of its voter registration practices. In several states voter registration forms have been found to include nonexistent or dead people. Some registrants have told elections officials they completed multiple cards at the urging of ACORN canvassers who claimed they would be fired if they did not meet a daily quota for signing up new voters.”…Catholic News Service. Oct. 16, 2008

“Late last night Congressman West maintained a district wide lead of nearly 2000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections “recounted” thousands of early ballots. Following that “recount” Congressman West trailed by 2,400 votes. In addition, there were numerous other disturbing irregularities reported at polls across St. Lucie County including the doors to polling places being locked when the polls closed in direct violation of Florida law, thereby preventing the public from witnessing the procedures used to tabulate results. The St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections office clearly ignored proper rules and procedures, and the scene at the Supervisor’s office last night could only be described as complete chaos. Given the hostility and demonstrated incompetence of the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, we believe it is critical that a full hand recount of the ballots take place in St. Lucie County. We will continue to fight to ensure every vote is counted properly and fairly, and accordingly we will pursue all legal means necessary.”…Allen West campaign

“It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”…Joseph Stalin

No official recount has taken place in the race between Allen West and Patrick Murphy. West is currently down by about 1900 votes, but every time the votes have been counted or processed the numbers change. Clearly there is a problem in his district and apparently in Florida. With all of the documented problems in Florida including known voter fraud and the closeness of the races, it is imperative that the votes throughout Florida be recounted.

Obama currently leads Romney by 73, 189 in FL. An automatic recount is triggered by a difference of less than .5 percent. That is 42,296 votes. With an honest, accurate tally, that threshold could have already been reached.

From American Thinker November 13, 2012.

“Was the 2012 Election Stolen?”

“As the 2012 election approached, conservative enthusiasm grew. Mitt Romney was drawing huge crowds while Barack Obama spoke in half-filled stadiums. All the passion lay on the right while the left was discouraged with a promised messiah who proved merely a politician. And the prediction was that, in contrast to 2008, Republican turnout would dwarf the tuned-out and carry the day. Hence the shock November 6 eve. How could Romney lose, especially by such a wide electoral margin?

Maybe he didn’t

At least not legitimately.

When I predicted Obama’s re-election, I stated that, despite our country’s inexorable leftist slide, Romney would still win on Election Day were it not for vote fraud. I explained that the Democrats could steal more than enough votes in crucial swing states to turn the election. And I still believe what I did then: electoral criminality put Obama over the top.

At the time, we heard stories about electronic-machine “glitches” switching Romney votes to Obama ones. And Patrick Moran, son of Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA), was caught on tape facilitating vote fraud while Bridgeport, CT mayor Bill Finch essentially promised to commit same for a political partner in crime.

Since then, the indications of electoral criminality have been overwhelming. First there are the anecdotes, such as the court-appointed Republican poll watchers illegally expelled from 13 Philadelphia polling places in wards that, in most cases, went 99 percent for Obama; the poll observers who noted what they considered vote fraud but were powerless to stop; and the Democrats who actually bragged about voting more than once.

Then there are the statistics, such as this staggering fact: in 59 Philadelphia districts, Romney failed to get even one vote. Final Obama-Romney tally: 19,605 to 0.

Huh? Not even one person voted GOP accidentally? I mean, there even was a Washington, D.C. councilman who inadvertently voted to approve faux marriage, saying that he didn’t know what he was voting for (that would be Marion Barry).

Next, consider this report from The Columbus Dispatch:

More than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.

In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population: Northwestern Ohio’s Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it’s a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.

Another 31 counties show registrations at more than 90 percent of those eligible, a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts. The national average is a little more than 70 percent.

[...]Of the Buckeye State’s 7.8 million registered voters, nearly 1.6 million are regarded as “inactive.”

Understand the significance. Years ago I was contacted by a Washington, D.C. community leader (who’ll remain anonymous) who told me that he had “done some computer work for several candidates over the years in DC” and had conducted his own study of urban vote fraud. He said that inner cities’ great transiency ensures that any given large metropolis will have a great number of voters who no longer live in their precinct of registration. These areas also have Democrat operatives known by the get-out-the-vote term “block captains” or “apartment captains,” people who know the lay of the land and thus what registered voters have left town. So all they need do then is vote for these people or have others do so. This is very easy, too, with few voter-ID laws. And this is why Democrats oppose these laws so vehemently.

Now consider that Obama “won” Ohio by 100,000 votes. This means that to flip the state, Democrat surrogates had to illegally “activate” only 6.25 percent of its 1.6 million inactive voters.

Note also that Ohio secretary of state Jon Husted did ask Eric Holder’s DOJ for help negotiating conflicting federal laws pertaining to the purging ineligible voters from the rolls. The DOJ’s ultimate response? “No comment.”

Yet a voter doesn’t even have to be inactive, just disengaged. For example, when the aforementioned Patrick Moran offered advice on surrogate voting, he told an undercover reporter to masquerade as a pollster and call a targeted individual to make sure he wasn’t planning to vote. And this is nothing new. In fact, liberal leg-thriller Chris Matthews himself admitted that it has been going on for years.

Then there is the case of the missing military ballots. As Rachel Alexander at Town Hall reported:

The conservative-leaning military vote has decreased drastically since 2010 due to the so-called Military Voter Protection Act that was enacted into law the year before. It has made it so difficult for overseas military personnel to obtain absentee ballots that in Virginia and Ohio there has been a 70% decrease in requests for ballots since 2008. In Virginia, almost 30,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots than in 2008. In Ohio, more than 20,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots. This is significant considering Obama won in both states by a little over 100,000 votes.

Frankly, it is inconceivable that military interest in voting could’ve dropped so drastically given conservatives’ passion this election season. The damning conclusion? The Obama machine wants our soldiers to shed blood while it sheds their votes.

Striking as all this is, however, it’s likely just a partial picture. As with all crime, it’s a given that the discovered vote fraudsters represent only a tiny percentage of the total. And what about vote-fraud methods we haven’t even thought of yet? Remember, the Democrats have been honing this act for many, many years.

And vote fraud is Democrat domain. Liberals are the situational-values set, people who for years insisted that right and wrong is relative and that if it feels good, do it. And what feels good to them at election time is stealing votes to win – and they do it. They relish it, in fact. Like the liberal who addressed Bill Clinton’s it-depends-on-what-is-is infidelity and adamantly told me, “He did the right thing,” leftists love the con. To pull a fast one like private eye Jim Rockford, fool everyone, and get away with it is like winning the Nobel Prize in Prevarication in their world. Thus, it’s assured that there’s no small number of liberals who are currently brimming with pride at having negated the votes of countless knuckle-dragging conservatives.

Having said this, we can’t be sure about the exact magnitude of the vote fraud. But my judgment is this:

The election was likely stolen.

And whatever Barack Obama is presently, I don’t believe he will be a legitimate president come January 20.

This is why Congressman Allen West was right not to concede his Florida race. And, frankly, if Romney believes that the election may have been stolen nationally, he should withdraw his concession.

Radical?

Unprecedented?

Yes, but so is vote fraud on the scale perpetrated by Obama’s minions. And people needn’t fear creating a national crisis – we are already in a national crisis. The only question is whether good Americans will stand and be counted or allow 2012 to mark our official descent into banana-republic status.”

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html#ixzz2C7JO66sa

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82 responses to “2012 election stolen?, Ohio Pennsylvania Florida irregularities, Voting machine problems, One of five Ohio voters probably ineligible, Florida errors should dictate recount

  1. I figure this election is lost. Nothing will be done about it because our laws are only as good as those willing to enforce them.

    I look at it this way now. The right to VOTE is our most important right. We have to defend that to the end. We have four years to close all of these holes the rats have been using to steal the elections and that should be top priority.

    We need one universal form of voting that’s protected and we need a nation wide voter ID law that’s non negotiable. Where do we start?

  2. Jerome.
    Day 1, today, we need to find some people to speak out, more poll workers etc.
    Perhaps a reward could be offered, maybe even Trump could offer rewards.

  3. They are saying that there was no gas leaks found at the Indianapolis explosion, and the NTSB has pulled out. So a whole neighborhood just blows up for no reason. Something doesn’t add up here. Here is another site about drones going to be used in Indiana. http://www.wfpl.org/post/unmanned-drones-be-tested-indiana-airspace#.UKJaXokMIn8.facebook

  4. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Here comes our “Watergate”.

    “Is this the last straw for Eric Holder? Attorney General under pressure as it emerges he knew about Petraeus affair for MONTHS… but didn’t tell Obama”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232054/David-Petraeus-scandal-Eric-Holder-knew-affair-months-did-tell-Barack-Obama.html#ixzz2C7UKeaSa
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    I would bet a million dollars that Holder had told him before the election. Anyway holder will be going. The Unraveling and cover-up has begun.

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  6. Obama Rewards Holder For Stonewalling Congress On Fast And Furios By Keeping Him On As AG During Second Term…

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/keeps_holder_as_ag_KiFdPvjU8lAh00dkcJNTZN

    It’s pretty obvious why…..he will continue to get cover from Zero and vice versa. Outside of office Holder would have a harder time defending himself alone. But if Big Sis would have been placed in his position it wouldn’t make any difference as far as outcome…. but this way Jarrett won’t have another loud mouthed opinionated female competitor for power! Also, Holder is a lot easier to manipulate being the wuss that he is.

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  8. All the more reason why Petraeus should give his personal account…he was there and Morell simply was not…even IF he has the written report by Petraeus. He can easily leave out what he wants if doing the bidding of the regime. Petraeus doesn’t want to face the media zoo that would be there for his testimony…but then again he created such a setting by his own stupidity.

    Petraeus Personally Investigated Benghazi Attack

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/petraeus-personally-investigated-benghazi-attack-libya/story?id=17706615#.UKJz64fAcaA

    By JONATHAN KARL (@jonkarl)
    Nov. 13, 2012
    In late October, Petraeus traveled to Libya to conduct his own review of the Benghazi attack that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

    While in Tripoli, he personally questioned the CIA station chief and other CIA personnel who were in Benghazi on Sept. 11 when the attack occurred.

    The Libya stop was part of a six nation trip to the region. Petraeus intended the review as a way to prepare for his upcoming testimony before Congress on Benghazi.

    “He was looking forward to testifying,” a Petraeus friend told ABC News. “He wanted to be fully prepared.”

    Brendan Smialowski/Getty ImagesGen. David Petraeus, left, and wife Holly… View Full Size Brendan Smialowski/Getty ImagesGen. David Petraeus, left, and wife Holly Petraeus are shown on Capitol Hill, June 29, 2010, in Washington.
    Petraeus’ friend described his investigation as Petraeus’ “personal review” of both the Sept. 11 attack and the events leading up to it.

    Get more pure politics at ABCNews.com/Politics and a lighter take on the news at OTUSNews.com

    The trip was so recent that the CIA has told the Congressional Intelligence committees that the trip report has not yet been completed.

    Petraeus’ personal involvement in this investigation is one reason some in Congress are likely to insist he testify on Benghazi.

    But now Petraeus is telling friends he does not think he should testify.

    Petraeus has offered two reasons for wanting to avoid testifying: Acting CIA Director Morell is in possession of all the information Petraeus gathered in conducting his review and he has more current information gathered since Petraeus’ departure; and it would be a media circus.

  9. Daniel frawley’s surrender date is one week from today November 20, 2012…Cellini decided not to fight appeal and agreed to go to jail…feds putting pressure on JJJ by going after his wife, ignoring him trying to buy the Senate seat and focusing on misappropriation of funds charges…

  10. ………..and the ORAL DIARRHEA from the WH continues unabated. But people like MMMMMSSSSSS.Jarrett,and the HYPOTENUSE of the LEFT TRIANGLE himself all keep walking through puddles of their own oral diarrhea……….so I would assume that they all have pretty STINKY FEET,and probably CROCODILE BREATH as well.

  11. Thanks ohbaby86.

  12. CW……………
    We should not allow any facet of the crooked election to be swept under the rug. I and hopefully everyone at CW blog will keep searching to find anyone who is willing to tell it all,even for a FEE. There were several anomalies in the Indiana voting as well. This is stuff that can only happen as a result of the sort of equipment being used which can be tampered with from A to Z,and slimey LIBERAL perpetrators. There are a number of influential people here in the state who are going to strive to replace the electronic CRAPOLA with the ORIGINAL mechanical machines that were used quite successfully during the 1930s,the 1940s,and clear up into the 1970s. It might take a few more days to tabulate the overall vote but I am willing to bet it will end up be a hell of a lot more accurate than from the electronic JUKE BOXES.It is pretty damn difficult to corrupt a huge roll of calculator paper,and a mechanical lever……….but if I know the IDIOTIC LIBERALS they will indeed try.

  13. Oh baby 86…………
    Are you NORTH or SOUTH of Indianapolis? I am in the northeast portion of the state.

  14. Question:

    I read that Valerie Jarrett is around seventy years old. If true she is old enough to be Barry’s mama!!!!! He has to have some deep reason to put so much trust in that hag! Just wondering …. have not heard to much about her except she is Iranian was born to American parents in Iran and they came to America at her age of five. I read that after Ann Dunam (sp.) his mother died he was going through her things and found a shoe box with something in it that upset him. I have often wondered how Moosechelle has stayed so close with her and not be one bit jealous?????

    cw…… I agree with you that Trump and others should offer big bucks to anyone who can prove voter fraud with the demo-rats. Some one contact Trump and encourage him to do it! :) Hell…what goes around comes around …is this not what Barry is doing?

  15. oldsailor80

    I was typing while you posted and I soooo agree with you.

  16. Ohbaby86………….
    Are you aware of the fact that Marion County has pockets of crude oil and a few are currently being pumped. But what I am leading up to is the fact that owing to recent earthquake activity both in Kentucky,and elsewhere (but geographically nearby) there is a strong possibility that mother nature belched a little methane gas which is heavier than air and lies in pockets as it flows out across the terrain from it’s source. There is a possibility that this is what took out the neighborhood at Indy. There have been other natural “GASEOUS BURPS” in the past at various places throughout Marion County, and even further South. It is entirely possible that such GASEOUS BURPS will continue to occur intermittently, and it would not be out of the realm of possibility, and particularly AFTER EARTHQUAKE activity. Just another viewpoint!

  17. Ginger………….
    Where I am concerned my only question is WHERE DOES MMMMMMSSSSSSS.Jarret’s TRUE ALLEGIANCE LIE? I personally think that it is NOT WITH America!

  18. Jarrett is 56….not far from “claimed” age of the Obamas.

  19. ……….mother nature even FARTS from time to time!

  20. Observer…………
    While it is only suspicion I personally think that Soetoro is GETTING IT ON WITH HER FROM TIME TO TIME. Therein lies the “BROTHERHOOD”. But what self respecting female would allow a HOMOSEXUAL to have sex with her. She would HAVE to be as MENTALLY CRIPPLED as Soetoro.

  21. Ginger………….
    Don’t look for Trump to EVER do anything which does not benefit TRUMP. That is why he is where he is monetarily. It will NOT HAPPEN unless there is a GUARANTEED GREAT RETURN on his investment. That is primarily why he put up 5million dollars for Soetoro to act on…..he KNEW that it was a SAFE BET and hedged by FREE PR. FREE is always best return!

  22. BYE BYE,I’m out of here. Maybe I will return to my GRASS SHACK IN WAIKIKI.

  23. (from prior thread)
    Sandy | November 13, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    So 2008 voter turnout 131 million + 8 million average rate of growth last 5 elections + increased voter interest should have been (139 million + increased interest) for 2012. Only 122 million votes were counted for 2012 ???? THATS A SHORTFALL OF at least 17 MILLION VOTES!!!!!
    *****************************
    Sandy, thanks for all of the work you have put into studying the voter fraud matter. I think this latest presentation of yours is the simplest and most easily understood of all the statistics you’ve presented.

    This alone should be enough to pique interest, but then we are receiving all of the firsthand testimonies of those who actually experienced serious voting irregularities, PLUS individual key states’ data such as more votes cast than registered voters, and other such “peculiarities”.

    We just have to seize the short window of opportunity and run with it, but where do we run? I don’t mean that pessimistically but realistically. From a strategic standpoint, ideally we need a voice – someone with clout to “make noise.” Trump is one such person, but it seems he has to be motivated, and right now according to tweets he is involved with his new golf courses.

    Forget Romney and his campaign. According to reports he was “shellshocked” over his loss, and none from his camp seems interested in pursuing voter fraud. He has to go on with his life understandably, and after giving his all to try to win, he is probably wanting to forget and move on.

    What about the Repub Party? They seem to be moot also. For crying out loud, where is Reince Priebus, head of the GOP, in all of this? I haven’t heard any of the Repubs on Fox speak of voter fraud. Rove, Huckabee, and others are silent. Hannity is silent, as well as Greta.

    Personally I feel that none of the GOP elitists wants to appear as a sore loser, so here again politics trumps patriotism. Also, none wants to “stir the pot” lest there be riots, etc., or a “constitutional crisis.”

    Well, then here we go again. For four years the media, including conservatives, refused to address the Fraud’s eligibility issue and just swept it under the rug. They either didn’t believe the truth and/or were afraid of the backlash, such as riots, etc.

    Now we are again at another crossroads, and from all appearances, so far, our leaders and the press are going to try to avoid any conflicts. Instead they would rather let America and freedom be destroyed than do what is right.

    Any crisis that would occur if the election were overturned will be dwarfed by the coming disaster if the Fraud is allowed to continue his destructive work, and all because no one with power is willing to do anything.

    So, if anything is to be done, it is up to We the People. I am going to get a set of facts together – in simplified form, so that eyes don’t glaze over – and contact congressmen, GOP’ers, and Fox media. I do believe that Rush Limbaugh has spoken of the fraud. Last night I started with some emails to Hannity. Time is of the essence!

  24. CW…………
    Before I shut down,I wish to request if you will bring Jonah’s video over to this new thread………..I think that what the young black man had to say is EXTREMLY IMPORTANT.

  25. oldsailor, ok.

  26. From Jonah & prior thread.

    Obama Won Because Of Voter Fraud All Over

    “Obama Won Because Of Voter Fraud All Over, What Will The Republicans Do, They Stole The damn Election, We have enabled Barrack Obama, Who do we need To Talk to, Voter ID Could Have Stopped this Cheating, Benghazi Scandal, Fast and Furious, The B@$t@rd Stole the Election, They Are Liars”.

  27. If the concern of the FBI is the possibility of blackmail due to secret info about any person at high levels of U.S. power where is the concern about what foreign nation controls Obama due to the rumored (actually factual info) payment for elitist education. He never would be admitted to such higher education institutions otherwise. If they don’t care about the known ability of the Saudis, via Muslim Brotherhood atty, to back Obama’s entry into Harvard and thus their future control of U.S. foreign policy, then what’s the big hoo ha over Petraeus? Good grief, there is found probable cause of forgeries/felonies of this pResident discovered by law enforcement and yet these same agents now tearing apart a woman’s home to find more info when so far there hasn’t been anything much found other than the “risky business” could care less about a known usurper rapidly destroying the very foundations of their country. Just the lack of “curiosity” amazes me.

  28. I am about 50 miles south of Indy Old Salt.

  29. Sorry I meant Old Sailor 80.

  30. W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-petition-calls-stripping-citizenship-and-exile-anyone-who-signs-petition-secede_663282.html

  31. New York down -461,542 from 2008 or -6% down
    New Jersey down -345,320 from 2008 or -9% down
    Pennsylvania down -405,727 from 2008 or -7% down

    I thought they were low yet it is the official turnout. These percentages are consistent with previous events of explainable down turns on national level, but as we can see this is isolated and regional. Also considering the massive concentration of the disaster is seems to me the drop in turnout would be much greater (for example 1 or 2 million more) this would further support voter fraud and would have seen voter turnout more in line with historical growth rates. Does this make sense?

    Connecticut up 63,439 from 2008 or 4% up
    Massachusetts up 97,365 from 2008 or 3% up

    Stunning this seems to indicate a pent up demand for voter turnout. After hurricane 2 states up in voter turnout. More facts coming out every minute.

    Without this resolved
    It is no longer a government of We The People by the people to form a more perfect Union, establishing, Justice, and insuring domestic tranquility. All men then are NOT created equal, that they are NOT endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness will no longer protected by government.

    NOTHING ELSE MATERS!!!!!!

    Does it touch you in your core?
    Sandy

  32. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    This will make your day- Breaking at Drudge

    “Obama keeps Holder as Attorney General”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/keeps_holder_as_ag_KiFdPvjU8lAh00dkcJNTZN

    HE HAS TO- Blackmail and pardons.

  33. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – It wont be long now folks until the whole rotten, stinking, corrupt country falls into the cesspool it has become.
    PPS – Senator John F(n) is to be selected Secretary of Offense!!

  34. Senator John F (why the long face?) Kerry?

  35. If BETRAY-US has the interest of our country at heart,and is the sort of soldier that many seem to think he is then he will beating down the door at Fox news,and maybe even GLOBE scandal sheet,to get out his side of Benghazi. In all probability his marriage is ALSO over. Yet if there is any real soldier left in him he will VOLUNTEER his testimony,and he will NOT TWIST or otherwise mince words. If he does not testify,and refuses to tell it to the MEDIA then I will look upon him as a SNIVELLING COWARD. A good soldier does not allow BASTARDS like Soetoro to intimidate him.

  36. Philo-Publius | November 13, 2012 at 2:21 pm |

    W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-petition-calls-stripping-citizenship-and-exile-anyone-who-signs-petition-secede_663282.html
    _________________________________

    As much as I would love for my beloved state of VA to secede, there is no way I would go on a govt. website to sign a petition. You’d have to be a little crazy. There has to be a better way. Certainly you wouldn’t ask permission… you’d just do it. Hopefully people of courage will join Allen West in questioning the outcome of this obviously crooked election.

  37. I read this morning that Patraeus affair was occurring at the VERY TIME he was being sworn in as head of the CIA in 2011. And whoever vetted him KNEW this was happening, and that’s the way Obama wanted It, because if he (Patraeus) went off the reservation… they could always pull this rabbit out of their hat and destroy him.

  38. Jerome……………
    The alleged administration is likew a rotting fabric. There are threads exposed everywhere that if pulled on will unravel the entire piece of fabric. The finest of fabrics are vulnerable to unravel. I am praying that the thread to Soetoro will soon see the light of day,and somebody will have the presence of mind to recognise the opportunity,and he/she will grab the thread and pull like there is NO TOMORROW. It only takes ONE THREAD of a woven fabric.

  39. SUEQ……………..
    In 1949 The POTUS decided that General MacArthur was a possible detriment to the US, so he FIRED MacArthur. He knew that anything other than outright dismissal would FAIL,and turn around and BITE HIM. Had Truman tried to tie a scandal to Macarthur he probably would have paid dearly at the next election. So MacArthur was allowed to just FADE AWAY. I am sure that the same would apply to Soetoro as well. He has tried to DISCREDIT Petraeus, but the public will reply in extremely loud, and pointed verbal attacks on Soetoro…….just as many did against Harry Truman when he fired General MacArthur. Many people looked upon Harry Truman as a mentally unbalanced POTUS after he fired MacArthur. The only difference between then and now is that most of us ALREADY KNOW the MENTAL STATE of Soetoro.

  40. ………Truman DID LOSE the next election to Dwight David Eisenhower.

  41. I forgot to add the rest of the story…….Truman was INCUMBENT,and Eisenhower ran against Adlai Stevenson. Stevenson the Democrat lost against Eisenhower.

  42. Old Sailor,
    Can you expand if possible about Truman and MacArthur? It was before my time. I know my aunts spoke glowingly of Truman. My dad… not so much. I am a child of the 50’s. I didn’t understand at the time.

  43. Putin: Obama Plans to Visit Russia

    The big plan is being put into motion with the greater “flexibility” of the regime to aid those ready to bring down the U.S. They absolutely could not do so without the treasonous aid of this false pResident.

    “Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Obama made the statement when Putin called a second time to congratulate the US president on his reelection.”

    Putting their strong arm on our little wussy in the WH?

  44. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    It is so obvious that having electronic voting machines is the easiest way for the criminals to put in to place who they want. Paper ballots are the ONLY way to have a FREE AND FAIR election.

    Oh they’ll throw us a bone or two, but they know that he/she can be “handled”.

    It is just sickening to watch what is happening, and the minions simply sit back and let it happen.

    And the video brought over from last thread pretty much sums up how I feel. I agree that we have GOT to start at the LOCAL level and get them to understand and STAND UP to the higher ups, get to the County level and then up to the State level. It may take 5 years, but I believe that IF people would start standing up to these bullies, the momentum against the bullies will increase.

    He’s the “teflon” President.

    And it’s just ridiculous how differently Republicans are treated compared to Democrats.

    BOTH sides are in on it, no doubt about it, and it’s time to have a Constitutional Convention to “redo” what our Country has evolved in too.

    The Constitution allows for it, and it should be used.

  45. …..paging Senator Joe McCarthy, paging Senator Joe McCarthy, you are needed at 1600 pennsylvania ave. There are over 50 avowed Marxists in our Congress.

  46. A Constitutional Convention can only invite mischief! I’m afraid it would resemble the 2700 page Health Care Bill! Be careful what you ask for, IB.

  47. Wonder if this attack on the Military leadership is Obama’s reaction to concern the military was contemplating his removal.

  48. …”communism is a worldwide criminal conspiracy”…J. Edgar Hoover
    Wonder why he would say a thing like that?…

  49. Sueq…………….
    General MacArthur was the Supreme commander during the Korean war. He was a master at tactics,In addition WW2 taught him about reality. He wanted to invade North Korea above the 38th parallel. He wanted to defeat the North Korean Communists. He could have easily done this…..but there was a FLY IN THE OINTMENT, China had threatened to intervene militarily if MacArthur did this. Truman found himself between a rock and a hard place. He made a special trip to Korea to talk with MacArthur. The context of the discussion between them was never made public, but just a week later Harry Truman relieved MacArthur of his position,and that was that. MacArthur was returned to the states and not long thereafter was retired. He made a much publicised speech in which he made the statement ” Old soldiers never die they just FADE AWAY.” He was a very much admired Field Commander during the war. Some people though saw his hasty abandonment of the Philipines, as an act of cowardice. Particularly when troops were left behind to fight an enemy who outnumbered them by about 30 to one. It was a lost cause. After the Japanese were pretty much defeated in the Philipines he saw fit to return and tell the Philipine people that he had engineered the defeat of the Japanese. There is still a lot of question as to who actually engineered the defeat of the Japanese in the Phillipines. Certainly Guadalcanal, and Corregidor have to account for something,and it was largely Naval forces that eventually were victorious at Guadalcanal. Then there was other Naval battles Such as Midway,and Siapan which really didn’t get the amount of press that the the Philipines campaign got. Of course it goes without saying that in addition to Naval forces there were land forces which was made up of both US Army,personell,and US Marine Corps personell, along with allied forces who went ashore and confronted and defeated Tojo’s finest Samurai forces. We lost a HELL of a lot of our brothers,and sons in the earlier battles,and subsequent battles as well. These include both IWO JIMA,and OKINAWA. Both were HORRIFIC FIGHTS. After Okinawa the Japanese hold on the Pacific was essentially ended. There were pockets of resistance like Rabaul to which the supply lines were cut, and the Japanese forces there were essentially bypassed. They were largely starved to death. Rabual was considered not invadable, so the supply lines were cut and it was bypassed. The bombing of Japan itself began soon after the fall of Okinawa. Our bombers were flying a very long way each bombing trip. The first Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima was carried out by the Enola Gay B-29 which originated from Tinian. I personally think that the ONLY thing Harry Truman done right was give the order to use the nuclear bombs. I base my belief upon the fact that the Japanese didn’t care how many poeple that they killed at Pearl Harbor, so it is fitting that an enemy be hit wherever they exist. There is no other condition to war than “UNCONDITIONAL” SURRENDER. The Japanese finally signed the formal UNCONDITIONAL surrender. It was General MacArthur who sined the surrender alongside of the signature of Hirohito himself,on the fordeck of the USS Missouri. Hiro hito was allowed to remain as the spiritual leader of the Japanese people.

  50. The Declaration of Independence tells us what to do when we are faced with a TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT. My question is ….DOES the POPULATION of AMERICA POSSESS the INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO TAKE BACK AMERICA AND DEMAND UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER FROM OUR OCCUPYING ENEMIES, (DOJ,Congress,and Executive branch) of our OWN GOVERNMENT. I PERSONALLY HAVE MY DOUBTS. Our occupiers are giving more and more FREE stuff to our enemies who agree with,and have joined the occupier. Sadly it is the recipients of the FREE STUFF who will be the FIRST to feel the blade of the cutlass upon the back of own necks, the FIRST TIME THEY COMPLAIN about something. So to finish Soetoro American business should continue to downsize and keep downsizing,……..the more people who lose their utopias the more reality will return to the people of America. So all we need to do is keep demanding MORE AND MORE from the PHONEY GOVERNMENT, Eventually the Billionaires,and the millionaires will take up residency in foreign countries, soon the WARRIORS will no longer be available, this will leave the CHIEFS to do their OWN criminal behavior,and hopefully the final war between the CHIEFS will end with all of them EXTINCT, at which point we will be rid of them. They will CUT THEIR OWN THROATS.

  51. SueQ (4:35 PM)
    As much as I would love for my beloved state of VA to secede, there is no way I would go on a govt. website to sign a petition. You’d have to be a little crazy. There has to be a better way. Certainly you wouldn’t ask permission… you’d just do it.
    *************************************
    SueQ,
    Why would anyone with any sense at all put their names on ANY petition on a GOVT. website? To me that is about like signing up with the Mafia to fight organized crime. We know that the gubmint is not going to grant secession, and all the signers have done is state their identities for gubmint’s future use.

  52. Hiding information from citizens is not indicative of a democracy but a tyranny.

    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121112008-food-stamp-data.html

    Food Stamp Data Was Hidden Until After the Election

    Obama hid so much data from us before the election.

  53. Air Force Brat!

    Exactly right, SueQ. Those well-intentioned people may be putting themselves in a lot of danger.

    And like we’ve discussed in another thread, states intending to leave the Union don’t “Oh pretty please with sugar on top, is it OK with you?” The governors and state legislatures would issue proclamations, DECLARING what they are going to do.

    Slaves have to ask “permission”; sovereign entities do not.

  54. This story will not and should not go away:

    COLD CASE POSSE BOSS FINGERS HAWAII OFFICIALS
    Sworn statement details ‘elaborate non-cooperation’ on Obama probe
    by CHRISTOPHER MONCKTON OF BRENCHLEY

    An angry statement just sworn by the lead investigator of a team assigned to review Barack Obama’s birth certificate says Hawaii officials – who are Democrats like Obama – are using “elaborate non-cooperation” to conceal birth records from law enforcement and the public.
    (snip)
    Zullo, a seasoned sleuth who heads the team deputized by Joe Arpaio, recently re-elected sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz., fingers Hawaii’s governor, deputy attorney general and health department chiefs as obstructing justice.
    Zullo’s affidavit charges these officials are “hiding” original birth records, thwarting the posse’s hunt for those who forged the document at the White House website.
    His detailed catalog of Hawaii’s misfeasance is shocking.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/cold-case-posse-boss-fingers-hawaii-officials/

  55. Cliff Kincaid – “Accuracy in Media”:

    “Petraeus Sex Scandal Could Have Sunk Obama”

    “More than a week before the election, an FBI whistleblower went to a Republican member of Congress with explosive details about a national security scandal that could have stopped President Obama’s re-election campaign dead in its tracks. But the potentially devastating “October Surprise” was hushed up by Republicans.

    Despite the explosive nature of the allegations, two Republican members of Congress, Dave Reichert and Eric Cantor, decided to pass on the information to the FBI director and take no action themselves. They didn’t even inform their colleagues on the House Intelligence Committee or in the House leadership. It was a terrible mistake on their part that enabled Obama to escape the damaging repercussions of the scandal right before what many conservatives called the most important presidential election of our lifetimes.

    Because of Cantor’s failure to go public, the scandal exploded only after the election, as Petraeus submitted his resignation as CIA director and Obama accepted it. “I would like to congratulate President Obama on his re-election,” Cantor had actually said on his blog, knowing that Obama’s administration was engaged in a massive cover-up. Only later did he acknowledge, in response to a New York Times report, that he had the information that could have derailed Obama’s presidential campaign and possibly given Mitt Romney the presidency.”

    http://gulagbound.com/36063/petraeus-sex-scandal-could-have-sunk-obama/

  56. Mike Zullo’s affidavit:

    November 9, 2012

    http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/11/ZulloAffidavit.pdf

  57. As much as I would love for my beloved state of VA to secede, there is no way I would go on a govt. website to sign a petition. You’d have to be a little crazy. There has to be a better way.

    there is go down to your public library or kinko’s use their computer and enter name and mainstream from phone book, repeat and rinse. to be a lib tard , you need to think like a lib tard

  58. PolitiJim:

    “The GOP Can Not Legally Help Stop Vote Fraud, No Joke”

    “My good friend Alan Vera of True the Vote told me long ago that we have a two party system: the Corrupt Party and the Stupid Party. To that fact, during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht related a meeting she had with RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity. The answer?

    Nothing. They aren’t legally able to. (I’m not joking.)

    As part of a lawsuit settlement with the Democrat Party, the Gutless Old Party agreed to not engage in any voter protection initiatives. Two of the clauses read this way:”

    [go to link]

    http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-gop-can-not-legally-help-stop-vote-fraud/

  59. Here’s how touchscreens killed Romney votes

    A Chicago voting-machine tech is sounding the alarm, claiming he witnessed multiple error messages on the voting touchscreens this election – but only in cases where people voted for Mitt Romney.

    Here’s his explanation

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/

  60. C.W. How Obama Won
    Post this please http://www.commieblaster.com
    U.S. Votes counted in Spain ,by George Soros

  61. Hawaii officials fingered for ‘hiding’ Obama’s birth records

    We haven’t heard much about Barack Obama’s eligibility lately, but now the head of Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse is unleashing an assault on officials in Hawaii who are allegedly “hiding” Obama’s original birth records.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/cold-case-posse-boss-fingers-hawaii-officials/

  62. How Obama Won,massive Fraud Nov 9th article
    U.S. Votes counted in Spain ,by George Soros
    http://www.commieblaster.com

  63. Nov 13th. Open Treason. Pass On
    Obama usurps Congress
    Signs away U.S. Sovereignity to UNITED NATIONS

    http://www.commieblaster.com. Time to scream at Congress Call them,call Repub Governors Attorney Generals

  64. Since everyone is all bout military sex scandal,maybe C W.could you repost
    Article about Down low Club,call Congress and tell them to search
    Down low club on http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com.
    Would this be bad for our nations security? Who is vReggie Love?
    Did Jerome Corrsi discuss Michelle’s divorce papers on talk radio a few weeks ago,that stated certain activities besides other problems were reason for requesting divorce..????This cold be a national security issue,what do you think??

  65. Big List Of Voter Fraud REPORTS http://www.wnd.com
    Call Congress demand they do something about this

  66. Cabby 1:14pm and anyone else interested,

    apparenetly repub party itself cannot question vote fraud, we must figure who locally to address it? I am not sure if it needs to be in the states in question? or if willing people from one state can question in other state?

    http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/06/republicans-taking-no-chances-on-election-fraud/

    this one explains it more:
    http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/court-rules-republican-national-committee-must-still-be-monitored-for-voter-fraud?news=844199

    this could be why repubs are not questioning much – it’s set to expire in 2017, unless repubs are found to have violated order.

  67. Maybe http://www.spire-law.com Can get a class action lawsuit,American citizens,fraud against congress,voter fraud,media,admin,for lies,deceit,coverups,treason
    Read their Worldwide lawsuit,Money laundering,Raketeering
    Names named ,for starters,Holder,Geitner,Jarrett,Anita Dunn and hubby,John Corzine many more
    Pass this on please,Congress needs to know about this

  68. Wonder if they know about O usurping Congress and signed away
    US Sovereignty,open Treason? http://Www.spire-law.com

  69. Wonder if they realize massive voter fraud ,a crime,in our elections
    http://www.spire-law.com
    C.W. what do you think,maybe thy would take a case of Fraud against American citizens,and America

  70. Take Action – Tell Lame Duck Senate: Don’t Ratify Any UN Treaties

    Before the Senate left for recess, our conservative ally, Utah Senator Mike Lee, obtained signatures from more than 34 of his Senate colleagues asking that no treaties be brought to the Senate floor during the Lame Duck session. The total has now risen to 36 Senators who have signed this letter.

    Please sign and share

    http://capwiz.com/eagleforum/issues/alert/?alertid=62139726&queueid=8941582766

  71. 40 states want to secede now WOW what does this tell you?
    http://www.wnd.com let the loons stay in DC and the normal citizens have the real America

  72. So Gordo, what do you do with a do nothing congress> They should tar and feather these two,and thats being nice.

  73. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    ATTENTION-ATTENTION NOW HEAR THIS – There will be a live Presidential Press Conference on c-span2 at 1:30ET. Don’t miss it as this will be the first step in the great cover-up. If Holder didn’t tell the usurper that Petraeus was having personal troubles he should be fired. If Holder did tell him, then the usurper should be fired for lying that he did not know.
    We got them trapped.

  74. Someone with clout,contact http://www.spire-law.com
    Perhaps see about American citizen class action lawsuit for massive Voter fraud against Am citizens votes
    Also another class action against govt,and media for treason,coverups,lies deceit,to America and it’s citizens.
    Pray America is saved from destruction

  75. Johnathan you are right on the mark. This country needs a universal voter law that includes voter id at the polls. This isn’t rocket science just common sense. As citizens of this country we should (and I have) write our representatives and demand action be taken to eliminate these loopholes and let eveyones votes be counted. What a travesty that so many of our men and women in the military were denied the opportunity to cast ballots. This should never happen.

  76. 10 million Hispanics in the US are illegal, and 70% of Hispanics voted for Obama in 2012. Attorney General Holder barred state law enforcement officials from accessing federal databases to verify citizenship, and illegals who don’t know voting laws can’t be prosecuted, so how many of our 10 million illegal aliens were enrolled by Democrat voter drives, how many thought a Romney win meant deportation, and how many voted for Obama? Did Holder obstruct justice, aid and abet in voter fraud, and disenfranchise legal voters?

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