SC governor Nikki Haley response to Obamacare, Letter to Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, No to state based health care exchange, Not state based at all

SC governor Nikki Haley response to Obamacare, Letter to Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, No to state based health care exchange, Not state based at all

“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”…Barack Obama

“About two-thirds of the hospitals serving Medicare patients, or some 2,200 facilities, will be hit with penalties averaging around $125,000 per facility this coming year, according to government estimates.”…NE News Now

“The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)[1] imposes numerous tax hikes that transfer more than $500 billion over 10 years—and more in the future—from hardworking American families and businesses to Congress for spending on new entitlements and subsidies. In addition, higher tax rates on working and investing will discourage economic growth both now and in the future, further lowering the standard of living.”…Heritage Foundation

From the SC Office of the Governor Nikki Haley, November 15, 2012.

“Gov. Nikki Haley to Sebelius: S.C. will not set up a state-based health care exchange”

“COLUMBIA, S.C. – Governor Nikki Haley today sent a letter to U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius ahead of tomorrow’s deadline for states to decide if they intend to participate in the health exchange program created by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA).

A copy of the governor’s letter to Sec. Sebelius is attached.

In the letter, Gov. Haley informed Sec. Sebelius that South Carolina “should not and will not set up a state-based health care exchange.”

Under PPACA, the governor wrote, “the federal government is required to establish exchanges and gave individual states the choice to participate. Yet, as we worked through the process of analyzing options available to South Carolina, it became abundantly clear that state ‘participation’ was in name only.”

“[T]he law’s state-based exchange programs are not state-based at all. Instead, they simply pass along to the state the burdens of a new and cumbersome bureaucracy,” she continued.

The governor also urged federal officials to provide all states with clear guidance on how state-based, partnership, and federally-facilitated exchanges will work or to delay the implementation deadline.

“The amount of uncertainty in our economy is growing given the lack of information available from the federal government at a time when we can hardly afford it,” the governor wrote.”

http://governor.sc.gov/News/Pages/RecentNews.aspx

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82 responses to “SC governor Nikki Haley response to Obamacare, Letter to Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, No to state based health care exchange, Not state based at all

  1. DHS raising an armed army

    On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/homeland-security-graduates-first-corps-of-obamas-brown-shirts-homeland-youth/23898/

  2. LMUHA…………….
    Speaking for myself…..I only need to see WHO IT IS that is amassing an Army. That fact alone says it ALL. Anyone with even a half a brain can see through this. Get your weapons ready!

  3. LMUHA…………….
    Why do you think the DHS BOUGHT ALL OF THE AMMO. That fact alone tells the true mission of the DFS. The alleged FEMA camps are really intended to fill the SAME EXACT ROLE as DID THE NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Sadly there are still millions of Americans who are still sitting on their duffs thinking that such a thing will never happen to them. They are the YOUNG overeducated wordsmiths,who THINK that UP is DOWN,and NOBODY will ever make them believe otherwise. They KNOW IT ALL! Throughout my life I have learned that it isn’t what you already know,rather it is what you learn AFTER YOU KNOW it all THAT COUNTS. I am a SIMPLE PERSON. I see things as THEY ARE!.

  4. OT……….but IMPORTANT……….
    Here is the bottom line regarding Soetoro,and Benghazzi. If Soetoro sat in the situation room and WATCHED the ATTACK on the ambassador,and the others in real time, and could not differentiate what he was looking at as DEFENSE,OR OFFENSE, then he is either INCREDABLY,and HOPELESSLY STUPID, or he was DELIBERATELY allowing a SLAUGHTER to OCCUR. If the latter is the truth then he has advocated and was an instrument of the death of those people, and should be prosecuted for FIRST DEGREE MURDER, and TREASON. If he is so STUPID that he doesn’t know defense from offense,then he should be impeached with or without the agreement of the Senate. Either way he is NOT the POTUS. Barack H.Obama is the so called POTUS,but unfortunately Soetoro never legally had the name restored. There is NO PROOF of a legally adjudicated name change having ever been granted to Barry Soetoro, at any PUBLIC RECORDS database in the US or at any Superior Court anywhere in the US. Barry Soetoro is the person who is PRETENDING to be an ELECTED POTUS. YET ALL OF THOSE WHO VOTED FOR HIM REFUSE TO BELIEVE EVEN CERTIFIED DOCUMENTATION. So who is the persons who are even more stupid than Soetoro? That answer is EASY. AMERICAN NUMBSKULLS!

  5. Is there some statistical way of projecting how many more deaths will occur due to “Obamacare”….factoring in projected lack of physicians; denied services/procedures/tests for cost purposes; age limitations for services; lack of choice in pharmaceuticals permitted; lack of resources for research; first line of care being nurse practitioners rather than MDs; lack of today’s excellent first response emergency care and lack of ER physicians; more mandated abortions in institutions not performing them today; it seems to go on and on.

  6. At least the SC governor can SEE THROUGH THE BS. Three cheers for NIKKI.

  7. Steyn notices the sychophant clothiers of the nake emperor (empty suit):

    Mark Steyn rips White House press corps ‘court eunuchs’: ‘You made fools of yourselves’ [AUDIO]

    On Hugh Hewitt’s radio show on Thursday night, Hewitt asked Steyn whether he thought the “Manhattan-beltway media elite” had improved since the presidential election campaign, now that tensions have escalated between Israel and Hamas.

    “I don’t think they think about that at all,” Steyn said. “You can tell that at that press conference yesterday — the most stupid, ludicrous, embarrassing questions from the court eunuchs. The idiot from The New York Times asking a question on global warming? Some giggly little schoolgirl from Chicago wetting her knickers, saying she’s watched Obama win every time?” (RELATED: Obama defends U.N. ambassador at press conference)

    “I mean, you’re supposed to be grown men and women,” Steyn continued. “You made fools of yourselves. He gives his first press conference in whatever it is — in one, two, three, twelve years — and you don’t even think about extracting any meaningful information from him.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/16/mark-steyn-rips-white-house-press-corps-court-eunuchs-you-made-fools-of-yourselves-audio/#ixzz2COgXfOWe

  8. Observer…………….
    One glaring fact remains………..ALL OF THIS will GO ON AND ON until WE THE PEOPLE PUT AN END TO IT. You can sit and WRING YOUR HANDS and WHINE LIKE “HARRIET” REID,or you can stand up and extend a hand to a UNITED OPPOSITION. This MUST,and hopefully will occur at some point in the foreseeable future. If everybody continues to sit on their duffs,and do NOTHING then they shouldn’t be WHINING!

  9. The corrupt FBI esp. under Holder. (We could have told them that when they refuse to go after the usurper with what they have to know):

    Sen. Grassley enters fray in pushing for answers from Holder, Mueller on FBI’s Petraeus probe

    “A number of questions have been raised about the FBI’s actions during the course of its investigation of the Petraeus matter,” Grassley said. “It would be best for the administration to be forthright and transparent so the country can feel comfortable that our chief domestic law enforcement agency is doing everything properly under the law to protect national security.”

    Grassley is calling for Holder and Mueller to provide him with a detailed briefing of the facts surrounding the FBI’s decision-making process in this case.

    Specifically, Grassley is asking for, among other things, “a timeline of events from initial contact with FBI personnel through the current status of the inquiry” and an explanation of how and why the FBI opened the inquiry.

    In addition, the Hawkeye state’s oversight bulldog wants “a detailed list of personnel who signed off on the investigation,” and a detailed account of the legal authority used to obtain the electronic communications of the subjects of the investigation.

    Grassley also requested an accounting of the role played, if any, by U.S. attorneys.

    Earlier this week, Grassley said an FBI official openly refused to provide this information to his staff during a brief phone call.

    “On Tuesday, my staff received a very brief preliminary call with an official from the FBI who declined to discuss the matter, citing its ongoing nature,” Grassley wrote to Mueller and Holder. “However, the FBI official suggested my staff issue a formal request to the Department.”

    Mueller provided a closed-door briefing to members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees on the Petraeus events on Wednesday. He also gave a closed-door briefing to Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy on the topic, but has thus far not given similar information to Grassley, Leahy’s counterpart.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/16/sen-grassley-enters-fray-in-pushing-for-answers-from-holder-mueller-on-fbis-petraeus-probe/#ixzz2COjKj0hs

  10. “Little Old Lady Goes Birther On CNN Hitman Reporter Gary Tuchman”

    Published on Nov 16, 2012 by BirtherReportDotCom

  11. “CNN’s BOGUS BIRTHER REPORT”

    At YouTube:

    “On April 26, 2011, CNN had two totally fraudulent reports that were so blatantly deceptive and false as to leave no doubt they were intentionally covering up Obama’s document fraud.”

    Uploaded by TheDrRJP on Oct 21, 2011

  12. Petraeus is beginning to sound like “Wesley the Weasel” (Clark)

    House Intel chair: CIA story on Benghazi changed

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57550932/house-intel-chair-cia-story-on-benghazi-changed/

    The original CIA talking points regarding the attack on Benghazi clearly attributed the incident to al Qaeda affiliates, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Peter King said this morning after a closed door briefing with former CIA Director David Petraeus. After being vetted by several different agencies, however, that emphasis was removed.

    “The original talking points prepared by the CIA were different than the final ones put out,” King said. Originally, he said, they were “much more specific on al Qaeda involvement.”

    Furthermore, King said that Petraeus insisted today that he was clear with Congress from the start that the event was a terrorist attack.

    “I told him… I had a very different recollection of that,” King said, noting that in the days following the Sept. 11 attack, Obama administration officials called the event a spontaneous uprising spurred by backlash against an anti-Muslim video.

    “I pointed out the following week when [National Counterterrorism Center director] Matt Olsen said it was a terrorist attack, it made headlines,” King said. “I told him I honestly disagree with his recollection.”

  13. Everybody…………..
    Including the (OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS)………if you want to have just a SMALL glimpse of what could easily be at hand then you need to take a lengthy in depth review of Nazi Germany history,as it was during the 1930s.and into,and through the1940s. I am sure that there are a few who would think that all of the past carnage is really COOL. To that end I will only say that when you are dragged into the compound and discover the truth perhaps then you will do some thinking.Unfortunately your thinking will then be a waste of time because it is happening AFTER THE FACT. If you think that living in a concentration camp would really be C-O-O-L then I pray that the person who thinks this WILL be among the very first to set up houskeeping at the local GULAG. Enjoy your stay!

  14. Observer…………….
    In addition the attacks on the Ambassador could have easily been carried out using materials supplied by the US. Where have we seen that before………was it at our Southern border? When you PLAY WITH FIRE,be ready to suffer a few BURNS.

  15. Jack Cashill:

    “Obama’s Jonestowns”

    “Worse than fraud is the process that turned nearly 20,000 black Philadelphians — and millions of inner-city dwellers throughout the country — into automatons. Hope does not produce this kind of regimentation. Fear does. In looking at these numbers, in fact, one can begin to see how, 34 years ago this Sunday, in the jungles of Guyana, Jim Jones was able to persuade 918 of his followers, most of them poor and black, to drink their lethal Kool-Aid. Fear can do that.

    Like so many Democrats, Obama among them, Jones worked to aggravate race relations in America, not improve them. To that end, Jones had his people write hateful, racist letters and attribute them to lesser white people. Obama likewise worked to intensify the fears of black America, as he famously did at Hampton University in June 2007, when he reminded his listeners that the Republican administration did “not care about” them or consider them “part of the American family.”

    “They’re going to put y’all back in chains,” Joe Biden told a group of African American supporters in August.
    Silly us — we thought it was a gaffe!”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/obamas_jonestowns.html

  16. Observer………….
    I believe that the overall translation to the hearings will end up being PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY, so what,a few people died,couldn’t be helped anyway. ………..yeah sure!

  17. Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System

    A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

    http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89:obama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system&catid=34:social-security&Itemid=62

  18. Non-muslim kids get hammered … the muslim kid? Nothing.

    Parents in Tennessee’s Rutherford County claim that school officials in suburban Murfreesboro are giving preferential treatment to a Muslim student, while clamping-down hard on non-Muslim students over hyper-technicalities.

    School officials at Barfield Elementary School gave essentially no punishment to a Muslim child who last October gave toy guns to fellow students as gifts to commemorate the Islamic holiday of Eid al-Adha.

    Instead, officials contacted the child’s parents and informed them that bringing toy guns on school grounds wasn’t permissible.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/claim-of-preferential-treatment-for-muslim-child-angers-tn-parents

  19. oldsailor80 | November 16, 2012 at 9:37 am |

    OT……….but IMPORTANT……….
    Here is the bottom line regarding Soetoro,and Benghazzi. If Soetoro sat in the situation room and WATCHED the ATTACK on the ambassador,and the others in real time, and could not differentiate what he was looking at as DEFENSE,OR OFFENSE, then he is either INCREDABLY,and HOPELESSLY STUPID, or he was DELIBERATELY allowing a SLAUGHTER to OCCUR. If the latter is the truth then he has advocated and was an instrument of the death of those people, and should be prosecuted for FIRST DEGREE MURDER, and TREASON. If he is so STUPID that he doesn’t know defense from offense,then he should be impeached with or without the agreement of the Senate. Either way he is NOT the POTUS. Barack H.Obama is the so called POTUS,but unfortunately Soetoro never legally had the name restored. There is NO PROOF of a legally adjudicated name change having ever been granted to Barry Soetoro, at any PUBLIC RECORDS database in the US or at any Superior Court anywhere in the US. Barry Soetoro is the person who is PRETENDING to be an ELECTED POTUS. YET ALL OF THOSE WHO VOTED FOR HIM REFUSE TO BELIEVE EVEN CERTIFIED DOCUMENTATION. So who is the persons who are even more stupid than Soetoro? That answer is EASY. AMERICAN NUMBSKULLS!
    *******************************
    OldSailor80,
    Remember, somebody ordered the men who were coming to the rescue to “stand down”, who gave this order, and why? Something doesn’t pass the smell test. I smell a usurper!

  20. Allen West: ‘Unconscionable’ vote shenanigans

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/allen-west-unconscionable-vote-shenanigans/

  21. Mr Flexible Obama Plans Visit to Russia
    Let’s keep on top of this.

    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121115008-flexible-russia.html

  22. OldSailor and Bob,
    No question in my mind that Bummer is responsible for the deaths of the four Americans at Benghazi and should be impeached and removed from office.
    There have been posed several reasons why he has tried to cover this up, among which are:

    1) With the death of Bin Laden, al Qaeda is on the ropes and waning, in his mind, and he needs to convince us that it is so.

    2) The rebel forces in Syria are being covertly armed with weapons (some of which may be U.S.) smuggled from Libya, and Bummer must keep that info from us. (sort of resembles Fast and Furious?)

    3) Bummer had a secret deal with the Muslims to stage a kidnapping involving Amb. Stevens, so that the blind shiek (now held in a U.S. prison for the 1993 bombing of World Trade Center) could be exchanged in a prisoner swap. The plot failed.

    4. The CIA might have been actually maintaining a prison, of sorts, to retain certain captured Muslims over in Benghazi and Bummer wouldn’t want that info released, because of prior agreements, or it might reflect badly on him (alleged torture, perhaps?), or some other reason. (Paula Broadwell, Petraeus’ mistress rather “let the cat out of the bag” on this one during a speech she gave some months ago.)

    Okay, which of the above do you think is the motive for Bummer’s coverup?
    Is it more than one? Methinks it could well be a combination.

    Oh, there could be another ! People that know him say that he is unable to make decisions quickly. He has to hem and haw. Is the cause of this massacre as simple a reason that he couldn’t be decisive and just didn’t know what to do? If that is the case, he needs to be removed for ineptness, if nothing else. America can’t afford to have this caliber of person in the W.H. (One reason for his dallying is that he is always “balancing” his political image with the needs of government.)

  23. We should demand that Bummer’s medical records be released in full. A drug addicted person (as well as other such habits) should never have his hand on the nuclear button. CONGRESS, WAKE UP!!!

    We could end up with a national “Benghazi” right here in America, because of this ineligible, pot-smoking, cocaine sniffing, deviant we now have for another four years.

  24. “VA Poll Watcher Dara Fox on WMAL 11-15-12″

    At YouTube:

    “WMAL listener Dara Fox from Manassas emailed the show about witnessing voter fraud while being a poll watcher in Woodbridge during the election. We brought her on the show to share her story.”

    Comment by Bonnie Betts:

    “I was a poll watcher in Stafford, VA. The exact same thing happened at our poll station at Mt. Ararat Church. I also called in to Romney’s legal team. I also reported it to the Election Chair official on site and he wrote up an incident report. Nothing has come about this. I have not been contacted by GOP, lawyers, nothing. I figured if this was happening in mild mannered Stafford, it has to be happening in swing? counties. Now I know it was.”

  25. cabbyaz | November 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm |

    We should demand that Bummer’s medical records be released in full. A drug addicted person (as well as other such habits) should never have his hand on the nuclear button. CONGRESS, WAKE UP!!!

    We could end up with a national “Benghazi” right here in America, because of this ineligible, pot-smoking, cocaine sniffing, deviant we now have for another four years.
    **************************
    cabbyaz,
    One word: usurper.

  26. Listening to Fox reports with Meghan Kelly….Committee member Pete King say’s that just minutes before the attack on our embassy, Libya security gaurds were at the front gate and left just minutes before the attack….This administration was dictated to the standards of security on our embassy; that we could not have armed marines/military, that we had to use THEIR SECURITY GUARDS! This is the dumbest F@C&!N& thing I have ever heard in my life….If you were in the third grade you would know that this was the worst idea ever!!!

  27. Thanks a bunch GORDO.

  28. CabbyAZ……………
    I am hoping that Congress will demand that he face impeachment,WITH OR WITHOUT THE PARTICIPATION OF THE SENATE. It is UNLIKELY that HARRIET REID,or ANY OTHER MEMBER of the Senate will move for impeachment. They have very little respect for the 4 who died. To me this makes them some of the SLIMIEST GARBAGE ON EARTH. I PRAY that soon I will witness the PAY BACK of ALL the BASTARDS who are protecting Soetoro. I will dance around their funeral pyre, and maybe add my own symbol of complete disrespect for ALL of them, (a bucket of BULLSH#T),for each of them.

  29. Bessie………….
    I EMPHATICALLY second what you said,and SHARE YOUR OBVIOUS DISDAIN.

  30. CabbAZ…………
    If Soetoro done this with MALICE OF FORETHOUGHT,he would be a PERPTERATOR of FIRST DEGREE MURDER. Bottom line IMMEDIATE ARREST,SUBSEQUENT PROSECUTION, and EITHER LIFE IN PRISON,or DEATH.

  31. ………….BUT……..who else was with him in the situation room and stood by watching this as well? Any other elected official had a Constitutional duty to act,even if the alleged POTUS REFUSED to……Makes me wonder if the manure spreader was there also.

  32. If the “GAFFER” was one of the others in the room,and he failed to act then we have TWO candidates who have an appointment with a garrote.

  33. Bessie | November 16, 2012 at 2:43 pm |

    Listening to Fox reports with Meghan Kelly….Committee member Pete King say’s that just minutes before the attack on our embassy, Libya security gaurds were at the front gate and left just minutes before the attack….This administration was dictated to the standards of security on our embassy; that we could not have armed marines/military, that we had to use THEIR SECURITY GUARDS! This is the dumbest F@C&!N& thing I have ever heard in my life….If you were in the third grade you would know that this was the worst idea ever!!!
    **************************
    Bessie,
    If the CIA guys down the street were armed, but this Ambassador and his crew were not armed, something smells fishy. There is more to this story.

  34. oldsailor80 | November 16, 2012 at 3:00 pm |

    I agree completely. Truthfully, this Congress that we’ve had for the last four years also bears much of the blame. Sickening ! For failure to do their job re. Soetoro, our country is going to be lost unless a turnabout takes place immediately.

  35. Hopefully now we will see some REAL ANGER on the hill. I am sure that the dead people ,particularly Stevens had some POLITICALLY POWERFUL friends,and it is NOW TIME for these friends to pick up their weapons and MOVE FORWARD.

  36. ……….it is time for Politically powerful friends of Stevens and the others who died needlessly to march dierctly into the Senate Chambers,walk directly to the podium turn on the mike and say to the Senate we are going to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, you may come along or stay behind…..suit yourselves but we are now going to GET SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS!

  37. ……..either we get the truth NOW or it is the END OF Soetoro’s stay in the WH.

  38. I also would expect them to have a warrant for the arrest of Soetoro, and the Sheriff of DC with them.

  39. SOCIALITE WHO BROUGHT DOWN PETRAEUS DINED AT WHITE HOUSE THREE TIMES THIS YEAR…

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/16/woman-in-petraeus-scandal-visited-white-house/

  40. …….Soetoro is NOT ABOVE THE LAW OF OUR LAND, and he NEEDS TO RECOGNISE this FACT. Now it is TIME FOR HIM to REGISTER SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS,OR FACE PROSECUTION AS AN ACCESSORY TO 1ST. DEGREE MURDER OF 4 PEOPLE. THE ANGER OF AMERICA IS GROWING, AND IT COULD EASILY BOIL OVER THE TOP OF THE KETTLE. IT HAS NOT BEEN THAT LONG SINCE THE DEATHS OF 17 CREWMEN OF AN AMERICAN DESTROYER WAS ALLOWED TO BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. HOW MANY PEOPLE MUST DIE BEFORE THIS MASS MURDERER IS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE?

  41. The House of Representatives is responsible for impeaching a president, as they did Bubba, then the Senate is responsible for a trial in which they convict or acquit. The Senate did not want Al Gore to take over as POTUS, nor will they want Joe Biden to take over, so they acquitted Bubba and they probably would acquit Barry. However, by the time the trial got to the point of conviction, the American people would have heard a whole lot more about Barry, and maybe conviction would be a good thing to more of America. The longer he stays in the White House, the more damage he’s going to do to this country. It would take at least a year from now before the Senate would decide his fate and by then, everybody’s taxes will be through the roof, unemployment will be even worse, the fiscal cliff will affect everybody, the stock market will be tanking, inflation will be even more evident, more people will lose their homes, and the Mideast will be on fire. Joe Biden, bless his heart, might not look so bad after all.

  42. Philo Publius…………
    Why should the Supreme Court be required to RE DEFINE something which has already been adequately defined in the past,by the Supreme Court? (Minor vs Happersett) Kim Wong Ark.

  43. Margie O…………….
    While I whole heartedly agree with you, we NOW have the GRAVEST situation at hand since Soetoro took office in 2008. It is obvious that he has NO interest in leading the country, his only interest is in RUINING our country,so that he can turn it intro a MARXIST Socialist country. The intent is clear. He along with his LIBERAL supporters need to be REMOVED from Congress by whatever means is successful.

  44. oldsailor80

    Philo Publius…………
    Why should the Supreme Court be required to RE DEFINE something which has already been adequately defined in the past,by the Supreme Court? (Minor vs Happersett) Kim Wong Ark.
    —————————————

    They shouldn’t have to. Obviously the people signing this petition do not know their history or are frustrated that no one in the gov’t is adhering to the definition provided in MINOR.

  45. ……….IT IS TIME FOR ACTION PEOPLE! WE HAVE SAT ON OUR REAR ENDS FAR TOO LONG………….ANY AND ALL OF US COULD BE HIS NEXT TARGET, AND DON’T THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THAT HE WON’T TRY. HE IS ALREADY ACTING TO CAUSE ANOTHER RECESSION, WHICH HE WILL TRY TO BLAME ON THE REPUBLICANS. YET SADLY HE ISN’T EVEN THE LEGAL POTUS. HE IS NOT BARACK H OBAMA ….HE IS REALLY BARRY SOETORO AN ILLEGAL OCCUPANT OF THE WH. NOBODY SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THEY VOTED FOR BARACK H OBAMA HE DOESN’T EVEN EXIST LEGALLY. IT IS ONLY A NAME. THE PERSON WHO IS PRETENDING TO BE BARACK H OBAMA IS REALLY LEGALLY BARRY SOETORO. HE COULD NOT CHANGE HIS NAME BACK TO OBAMA BECAUSE HE LACKED A CERTIFIED COPY OF A LEGALLY VALID LONG FORM BC WHICH IS REQUIRED ALONG WITH THE PETITION IN ALL STATES. (INCLUDING HAWAII.)

  46. Philo Publius…………….
    Do you have any ideas as to how we can do a mass reeducation of the American people regarding our Government, in 24 hours. Unfortunately we now have to somehow accomplish this feat AFTER THE FACT. PRETTY TALL ORDER!

  47. ……Once again I offer my personal congratulations to those people in the tiny Republic of Honduras for having the brains,and the courage to act in removing the criminal who wanted to be another Chavez. They saw what was being attempted,and they acted quickly to remove the threat. This is exactly what should have occurred LONG AGO right here in the Republic of America.

  48. bye bye time for me to hang it up for awhile!

  49. I have yet to hear from any of our “representatives” supposedly there to find out “what did Zero know and when did he know it” THE Benghazi question: WHO GAVE THE ORDER TO THE GREAT AMERICANS BEGGING FOR BACKUP THAT THEY SHOULD STAND DOWN??? Who left them to die? Who forced them into a situation of every man for himself until they had to go down fighting for themselves and others? Meanwhile they worry about intel Benghazi findings which contradicted the administration’s story having something to do with Petraeus’ quitting….and accept his contradictory answer of no when he had every intention of staying on after l’affaire confession. Duh!

  50. oldsailor80 | November 16, 2012 at 3:53 pm |

    Philo Publius…………
    Why should the Supreme Court be required to RE DEFINE something which has already been adequately defined in the past,by the Supreme Court? (Minor vs Happersett) Kim Wong Ark.
    *********************************
    First thing we need is an ID on the usurper, the rest will take care of it’s self.

  51. More evidence of voter fraud – in Main, apparently actually being investigated:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/maine-gop-boss-cites-mystery-black-voters-article-1.1202472#ixzz2CK1XHB3b

  52. Sorry, meant Maine

  53. Video: DHS Ready For Massive Civil Unrest, Internment Of “Dissidents”

    In this episode of The Truth Is Viral, the plans of the Department of Homeland Security to violently suppress the citizenry of the US (and reeducate “dissidents” in concentration camps) are revealed through the use of official government documents.

    In the past 8 months, DHS has purchased over 1.6 Billion rounds of hollow point handgun ammunition and rifle rounds suitable for use by snipers. Ammunition has gone to government agencies like the TSA, the Social Security Administration, and the National Weather Service.

    Really? Armed weathermen?

    “Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves” – Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley (RIP)

  54. Jessie Jackson Is Demanding Disability Pay Before Resigning

    Entitlement mentality.

    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121116003-jessie-disability.html

  55. Anyone heard the verdict from the 4:00 St. Lucie county canvassing board meeting?

  56. The Key to True Secession with Dr. Edwin Vieira(4 degrees from Harvard on Constitutional Law)
    Asking ‘Constitutional Restorationist’ leader to be Ron Paul

  57. November 16

    Doug Book:

    “Republican House Leader Covered Up For Obama Regime”

    “In late October, an FBI agent and whistleblower brought a story of possible Bureau corruption to Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. It was a story of Obama Regime operatives deliberately sacrificing the national security interests of the United States for the president’s political gain.

    So a Republican congressman and House leader had been given information that might have stopped the Obama campaign cold, causing massive embarrassment and difficulty for the man Cantor himself had accused of “instituting an imperial presidency,” mismanaging U.S. foreign policy and the war on terrorism, and “…covering up what really happened when four Americans were killed in Benghazi…”

    But rather than act in the best interests of the American people by making Humphries’ story public, by going to Mueller, Cantor put the agent’s career in jeopardy and provided yet another target for the liberal media and the Obama Regime.

    It seems Republican cowardice and stupidity grow with each passing year.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/republican-house-leader-covered-up-for-obama-regime/

  58. Could this possibly be true – an explanation as to why the GOP will not challenge vote fraud? The article seems well sourced, but I am not an attorney.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

  59. Well, when the going gets tough something people CAN do is back people like this….and that may take a real civil disobedience that gets you in lots of trouble!:

    US Bishops Vow to Not Obey Obama’s HHS Mandate

  60. GORDO | November 16, 2012 at 7:03 pm |

    It seems Republican cowardice and stupidity grow with each passing year.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/republican-house-leader-covered-up-for-obama-regime/

    *************************
    Maybe they are all RINOs?

  61. In reply to my own message at 7:34pm:
    It looks to be true; here is more info at Justia:

    http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca3/09-4615/09-4615-2012-03-08.html

    So if I understand this correctly – and would love more than anything to be wrong, the GOP cannot challenge on potential voter fraud that has an ethnic element. So busloads of blacks going into Ohio, illegals in NV or the story I posted earlier of blacks showing up in rural Maine – or my own voting experience here in California – cannot be challenged?

    I sure hope I am wrong because my head is about to explode.

  62. bob strauss
    Yes…you do get it…
    Also …maybe West experiencing a little of the justice WE have been experiencing could be a good thing.
    He has jumped the gun in this case, as it had not been decided yet by the ‘board of elections’ when he asked for a ruling by a judge who claimed to not have the authority to rule ‘at this juncture’. It’s good that he had the experience though, so that possibly he might pass his feelings on the matter, along to his “good ol’ boy’s club” up there in the puzzle palace in DC.

  63. Ladyhawke | November 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
    =============================

    Even if the Republicans can not challenge potential voter fraud as a result of the lawsuit, doesn’t Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party, or any other candidate on the ballot, have the legal right to do so?

  64. Jonah | November 16, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    ========================================

    Your guess is as good as mine – but I would tend to agree with you. I remain shocked as I just learned about this likely GOP restriction about an hour ago. Again, I am not a lawyer, but I think a challenger would only be granted legal standing if the potential outcome was their winning, which might preclude Gary Johnson. God knows, I have come to hate that word. Standing.

  65. observer | November 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    US Bishops Vow to Not Obey Obama’s HHS Mandate
    ====================================
    Bible publisher wins stay of Obama contraceptive mandate

    A federal court on Friday said a Bible publisher doesn’t have to offer health insurance coverage for contraceptives if it has moral objections, blocking the Obama administration from imposing its contraceptive care mandate on the business for now.

    Judge Reggie B. Walton said the Obama administration’s contraceptive coverage mandate puts companies that companies such as Illinois-based Tyndale House Publishers in an “untenable position” — either violate their beliefs, or face major penalties for failing to comply.

    Read more: Bible publisher wins stay of Obama contraceptive mandate – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/nov/16/bible-publisher-wins-stay-obama-contraceptive-mand/#ixzz2CRMilLkr

  66. Jonah,
    Love your new moniker.

  67. Jonah,
    Sorry, I should have said, I love your new gravatar.

  68. this is why I didn’t vote
    this is why the bastard wasn’t challenged in 2008
    this is why Romney tucked his tail and no recount was warranted
    this is why you will NEVER donate to the repub party again
    this is why I will return to the Independent party pronto

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

  69. THE ONLY QUESTION…WHY DIDN’T SOMEONE LET THE NATION KNOW ABOUT THIS??

  70. jayjay | November 16, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    =============================

    Likewise, I could not be more furious. I felt like I had been punched in the stomach when I discovered this lawsuit a few hours ago.

    The only good news – and there is not much – is like you said in your first post – so much now makes sense.

  71. How can this after 30 yrs be allowed to stand?.
    All the intimidation they have been doing at polls also
    This is nuts.Surely this can not stand
    Can attorney Generals do something about this.? Call them,this is robbery
    Founders are not rolling in their graves,They are Spinning!!!!
    American citizens need class action lawsuit against media and elected officials for lies,deceit,fraud,treason,coverups
    Maybe the http://www.spire-law.com. Would love to file a suit,ck the Big Worldwide one they have now!! MONEYLAUNDERING,Racketeering,ck who’s named,many from admin

  72. Any chance the electorate will not vote the 2 clowns back in? Seriously, aren’t their grounds for impeachment and treason charges? Ahhh wishful, desperate thinking….

  73. Ladyhawk……………..
    Voting is a RIGHT that we have. It cannot be legally put into any form of agreement as to procedure. It has been done long PRIOR to any agreements between any political parties, and therefore it is set in precedent,and the right to vote cannot be taken away, or altered in anyway,which includes the right to challenge voting procedure,and/or fraudulent voting conduct.In spite of what everyone seems to think the VOTE if found to be fraudulently conducted or carried out is adjudicable in a court of law. It is not the agreement here that is being adjudicated rather,it is the fraudulent acts of the people conducting the election. Our rights CANNOT legally be used as part of any form of AGREEMENT. They are GUARANTEED rights,under the Constitution. If a judge decides that HE IS THE LAW then it is likely that anything could come from such adjudication. When that happens it is time to UNSEAT the JUDGE.

  74. Truth Now ……………
    If you believe the that crap then it is YOU not the perpetrators. Here again somebody is trying to make UP look like DOWN.

  75. If Allen West had documented evidence that the voting had been carried out in a FRAUDULENT manner he was within his rights to ask for a recount whether the count HAD, or HAD not yet been certified. Voting fraud is adjudicable in a court of law. There probably are people who think fraud cannot be prosecuted, ,,,,sadly such people do not understand the laws of our land. Exactly what constitutes voting fraud? If a person casts a legal vote while he /she is under the influence of misleading information which was given to him/her by a perpetrator, who INTENDED to alter the vote. INTENT to defraud must be proven. Misleading information being that which causes others to believe a lie, instead of the truth. Must also be proven. If Allen West could prove ALL aspects of the fraudulent conduct that was used by Gertrude Walker, then his RIGHTS were violated by Walker, and the JUDGE here who denied the recount. If West feels strongly enough about it he can take it to the apellate court, and he might prevail. At any rate he should be considering a lawsuit against Ms. Walker as well.

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