2012 US Presidential Election, Electoral College, Electors, US Constitution, Federal Election Law, State Election Laws, State officers, State Election Officials, Judges, US Supreme Court Justices, Questions and answers

2012 US Presidential Election, Electoral College, Electors, US Constitution, Federal Election Law, State Election Laws, State officers, State Election Officials, Judges, US Supreme Court Justices, Questions and answers

“Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise
that it will last; but nothing in this world is certain but death and
taxes.”     Benjamin Franklin

Reprinted from Citizen Wells December 13, 2008.

Presidential Election

ELECTORAL COLLEGE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Q: What is the Electoral College?:

A: The Electoral College was established by the founding fathers
as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and
election by popular vote. The people of the United States vote for
the electors who then vote for the President. Read more

Q: Frequently asked questions:

A: Read more here

Q: Why did the Founding Fathers create the Electoral College?:

A:  The Founding Father’s intent

Here is a quote by Alexander Hamilton who, like many of the founding
fathers, was “afraid a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come
to power.” Hamilton wrote in the Federalist Papers:

“It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made
by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station,
and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a
judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were
proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by
their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to
possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated
investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little
opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least
to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so
important an agency in the administration of the government as the
President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so
happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an
effectual security against this mischief.”

Q: What are the state laws governing Electors?:

A: List of states and restrictions on Electors

Q: What are so called “Faithless Electors”?:

A: “The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require
that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore,
political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the
parties’ nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called “faithless
electors” may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting
an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme
Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges
and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under
the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to
vote as pledged.” Read more here

The US Supreme Court Obviously has not given Electors the option to
violate the US Constitution. Therefore, obviously, if the presidential
candidate is qualified, party pledges and state laws are permissable.

Q: What must an Elector be aware of when voting for a presidential candidate?:

 A: The following are important considerations when casting a vote. Voting
as instructed by a political party, another person, or a state law in
conflict with the US Constitution or Federal Election Laws is a serious
matter. Those not voting in accordance with higher laws are subject to
prosecution and may be guilty of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
High Crimes and Misdemeanors

UNITED STATES ELECTION LAW

“The following provisions of law governing Presidential Elections are contained in Chapter 1 of Title 3, United States Code (62 Stat. 672, as amended):”

“§ 8.   The electors shall vote for President and Vice President, respectively, in the manner directed by the Constitution.”

ARE ELECTORS REQUIRED TO VOTE ACCORDING TO POPULAR VOTE?

“There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires
electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in
their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their
votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two
categories—electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges
to political parties.”   (From US National Archives)

SO CALLED “FAITHLESS ELECTORS”

“It turns out there is no federal law that requires an elector to
vote according to their pledge (to their respective party). And so,
more than a few electors have cast their votes without following the
popular vote or their party. These electors are called “faithless
electors.”

In response to these faithless electors’ actions, several states
have created laws to enforce an elector’s pledge to his or her party
vote or the popular vote. Some states even go the extra step to
assess a misdemeanor charge and a fine to such actions. For example,
the state of North Carolina charges a fine of $10,000 to faithless
electors.

It’s important to note, that although these states have created these
laws, a large number of scholars believe that such state-level laws
hold no true bearing and would not survive constitutional challenge.”
Read more here

STATE LAW EXAMPLE: PENNSYLVANIA

Ҥ 3192. Meeting of electors; duties.
The electors chosen, as aforesaid, shall assemble at the seat
of government of this Commonwealth, at 12 o’clock noon of the
day which is, or may be, directed by the Congress of the United
States, and shall then and there perform the duties enjoined upon
them by the Constitution and laws of the United States
.”

“The mysteries of the Electoral College has enabled Pennsylvania
to play an unusually major role in determining who is President.
In 1796, Thomas Jefferson defeated John Adams in Pennsylvania’s
popular election by only 62 votes, but the Pennsylvania electors
gave Jefferson 14 votes and Adams 1, though Adams did win the
Electoral vote, 71 to 68.” Read more here

ELECTORS HELPED SAVE THE UNION

1860 election: 4 electors in New Jersey, pledged for Stephen Douglas,
voted for Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln.

Q: What happens after the Electoral College vote?:

A: Electoral College procedures

Q: What is the significance of your vote?:

A: The US Constitution clearly gives the states the power
and duties associated with electing a qualified president.
It is also clear that the states have not performed their
duties to ensure that the Electoral College votes will be
for a Qualified candidate. The Electors have a constitutional
duty to perform that supersedes any party contract or state
law. Each day that passes without verification of eligibility
of any candidate being voted for by Electors, brings us closer
to a constitutional crisis. There are pending court cases before
the US Supreme Court and state courts. Congress will meet in
January to count and certify votes and there will certainly be
challenges in Congress. If Congress or the courts shall fail to
do their duty, a Supreme Court Justice will be faced with a
decision to uphold the Constitution. The crisis will increase
in intensity.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the
Citizen Wells blog. Every effort has been made to ensure the
accuracy of the content. Readers are encouraged to visit source
material such as the US Constitution, Federal Election law and
state laws.

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63 responses to “2012 US Presidential Election, Electoral College, Electors, US Constitution, Federal Election Law, State Election Laws, State officers, State Election Officials, Judges, US Supreme Court Justices, Questions and answers

  1. There is no integrity anymore. So they are cowards there media is the electoral college. And will do there bidding

  2. Vacationer-in-chief.
    Obama Announces 17 Day Vacation
    To Hawaii Michelle will go.

    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121129004-obama-hawaii-17.html

  3. Breaking news

    The T.S.A. disclosed the official Airport Screening Results

    October 2012 Statistics On Airport Screening From The Department Of Homeland Security:

    Terrorists Discovered 0

    Transvestites 133
    Hernias 1,485
    Hemorrhoid Cases 3,172 Enlarged Prostates 8,249
    Breast Implants 59,350
    Natural Blondes 3

    It was also discovered that 335 MALE members of CONGRESS had no balls.

  4. Obama Spending $4 Million in Taxpayer Money to Vacation in Hawaii

    http://commieblaster.com/index.html

  5. Obama Again Considering Directly Arming Syrian Rebels (a.k.a. Al Qaeda)

    http://commieblaster.com/index.html

  6. “GOP SENATORS: OBAMA HASN’T ANSWERS ‘MOST BASIC’ QUESTIONS ON BENGHAZI”

    Posted: November 28, 2012

    “GOP Senators: Obama Hasn’t Answered ‘Most Basic’ Questions on Benghazi: Following on their meeting with UN Ambassador Susan Rice, Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC), John McCain (R-AZ), and Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) released a statement bashing her performance and stating that Obama had serious questions to answer about Rice’s statements in the aftermath of the Benghazi terrorist attacks that resulted in the deaths of four Americans.”

    [...]

    “We are disturbed by the Administration’s continued inability to answer even the most basic questions about the Benghazi attack and the Administration’s response.

    Beyond Ambassador Rice’s misstatements, we continue to have questions about what happened in Benghazi before, during, and after the attack on our consulate – as well as the President’s statements regarding the attack.

    Perhaps most important, we also need to understand why the U.S. military was unable to respond within seven hours to save American lives in Benghazi and why our consulate was left so unsecure despite a series of previous attacks.

    In more than a dozen letters, we and other Senators have repeatedly requested that the Administration provide answers to our questions. Yet, today most of them remain unanswered. We eagerly await their response.

    The controversy surrounding Rice is far from over. And these three Senators – yes, three, media, including a female Senator – will not stop until their questions are answered.”

    Continue Reading Here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/11/27/Rice-McCain-Ayotte-Graham

    Or Here: http://jarkesypolitical.com/2012/11/28/gop-senators-obama-hasnt-answered-most-basic-questions-on-benghazi/

  7. “TOP FIVE REASONS REPUBLICANS SHOULD TAKE US OVER THE FISCAL CLIFF”

    Posted November 29, 2012

    “As the clock ticks and we watch the various players move their pieces into place, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that Republicans are in a no-win situation. They’re ether going to have to cave and agree to a tax increase without meaningful spending cuts or take the blame for going over the fiscal cliff. Here are five reasons why going over the cliff is by far the best option.

    1. It’s a Trap!

    Though House Speaker John Boehner foolishly helped to manufacture this trap by making tax increases the primary issue in the fiscal cliff negotiations, there’s still time to extricate himself and his party.

    Obama and the media could not care less about the economy or the deficit or the middle class. What they want is a rerun of 1992 in 2014.”

    Continue Reading:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/29/Top-Five-Reasons-Republicans-Should-Take-Us-Over-the-Fiscal-Cliff

    Or Here: http://jarkesypolitical.com/2012/11/29/top-five-reasons-republicans-should-take-us-over-the-fiscal-cliff/

  8. BREAKING NEWS: Tweets

    Inform&ShareFar&Wide @OBAMAILLEGALIDs

    Obama & Soros 100% Committed High Crimes & High Treason’s To Illegally Steal The 2012 Election By Illegally Counting The Ballots In 100% Serial Criminal Election Fraud!! SEE THE BIG LIST OF VOTE FRAUD REPORT: http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/ … @MittRomney @gop @reince @speakerboehner #FRAUD #mittromney

    * * *

    Inform&ShareFar&Wide @OBAMAILLEGALIDs

    How To Un-Elect Obama & Let House Of Reps Pick The President: http://tinyurl.com/a2o6yv3http://t.co/du3IKX6o Last Chance To Save America #mittromney #tcot #fraud #gop

    From: http://jarkesypolitical.com/?p=763

    “HOW TO UN-ELECT OBAMA & LET HOUSE OF REPS PICK THE PRESIDENT”

    Source: SW Louisiana Tea Party

    “This election does not get decided until Mid-December when the Electoral College cast their votes.

    According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment – if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College — then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President.

    In other words — if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote — then the House of Reps CAN choose the next President!!!!!

    The democrats are stealing this election and it is up to WE, the people, to put the hammer down on their widespread vote-fraud.

    The founding-fathers gave us the Electoral College for several reasons.

    Vote-Fraud is one of those reasons.

    But it is up to us to hold tightly to the Constitution. If we don’t – then we are just as guilty as those who would ignore it.

    The Constitution can stop the socialist machine in its’ tracks.

    But it is up to YOU to get on the phone and make some noise.

    Please call your State Party Officials, your Congressmen, and any political groups or organizations ASAP.

    WE do not elect the President. The Electoral College elects the President. But if enough of them do not cast their vote – then the responsibility falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the next President.

    MAKE THE CALLS!!!

    If just 17 RED States agreed to NOT cast their votes in the electoral college – then it goes to the House. And if pressured – they just might do it.

    We do NOT have to convince ANY democrats – at all.

    All we have to do is convince 1/3 of the States to NOT cast their electoral college votes.

    Well more than 1/3 of the States did in fact vote as RED States. And they too can see the obvious, wide-spread vote-fraud which has taken place.

    So, if the Electors in 17 States which Romney won decided to NOT cast their electoral college votes — then the electoral college does not meet the requirement as defined in the Constitution. And in such a case, the electoral college is thereby null and void. The matter then goes to the House.

    In every State, each political party chooses its’ own “electors”.

    Then, whichever party wins the popular vote in each State is the party which gets to have its’ electors cast their vote in the electoral college.

    However, according to the Constitution and the 12th Amendment, in order for the Electoral College to have a quorum – then at least 2/3rds of the States must cast their votes.

    As stated in the Constitution and the 12th Amendment:

    “A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States,”

    So, if 1/3 of the States (17) do NOT cast their electoral college votes – then it goes to the House of Representatives (not the senate) to elect the next President.

    YES!! WE CAN DO THIS!!

    GET THE WORD OUT!!
    AND MAKE SOME CALLS!!”

    ~Glenn Ellerbe :)

    1 of 2 – Con’t

    From: http://jarkesypolitical.com/?p=763

  9. Is this why congress is trying to remove ‘indefinite detention’ from the NDAA bill? What are they afraid of?
    Is this why generals and admirals have been fired? Which side were they on?
    Is this why FEMA had no food, water, and supplies for Sandy victims?Saving for a bigger event??
    Was this why the kidnapping attempt of Ambassador Stevens was botched in Benghazi? To rile the public for support of a coup?

    AIPAC, decapitators inside US government (for Coup Attempt)

  10. I think the “inside the beltway” area could keep these busy ’til Kingdom come….most especially in the WH where grandma is casting her spells and the diabolic is having massive success:

    ‘Hi, deliver me from evil': Church sets up an exorcist hotline to deal with demand

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hi-deliver-me-from-evil-church-sets-up-an-exorcist-hotline-to-deal-with-demand-8368988.html

  11. Does anyone else find it very suspicious that barry and co are heading to the islands on Dec 17, the same day as the electoral college meets to vote? And he will be there until after the “fiscal cliff” hits Jan 1?

    Sounds like he is getting out of the way for something big, very big, about to hit us. And don’t forget that “Dec 21″ comes during his trip. Things that make you go HHHMMMMMMMMMMMM…………………………………

  12. CA Warrior…………….
    Excellent thought! BTW If you are a person who is receiving Social Security,you might want to take notice that it was recently changed to Federal Benefit. The wordsmiths have done it again,because now it will be possible for a lot of things to happen,one of which is a tax on the Federal Benefit which could exceed 20%. This would reduce a $500.00 “Benefit check”to $400.00. This would also clip everybody receiving a “Federal Benefit”check. If you get $1000.00 you will find yourself $200.00 short, each month. Hope everybody has another source of income.

  13. Everybody……………..If you receive a Social Security check, you will see that it is now referred to as “FEDERAL BENEFIT”. To some folks the REWORDING doesn’t mean anything,but when you stop to think about it there are a hell of a lot of ramifications, which the name change brings into reality. Just like the move of the Social Security funds into the general fund in the 1960s, now it can be raped every month.

  14. Whistleblower; they all knew about the 302’s and swept it under the rug…they did their job with the Blagojevich trial…What is their reward? Land deals?? Tax breaks??? Jobs for their children with the Obama regime (Andy Shaw’s daughter)???? His son-in-law Chris Hayes might too benefit?????

  15. WB.: any Bob Cooley sightings? What does he have to say about his friend now??

  16. Good Morning Everyone!
    http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/2012/1130/236773.shtml

    Are the Chinese Media Going After Obama?
    2012-11-30 13:59
    Nov 30, 2012
    
By Paul Pennay

    
The day after People’s Daily became the laughing stock of the world for apparently becoming the latest in a long line of Chinese media outlets to run a piece from the U.S. satirical website The Onion as if it were genuine, two regional Chinese newspapers also ran a story about a scandal involving sex, drugs and the sitting president of the United States.



    The story, which was based on extremely flimsy allegations made by a man named Larry Sinclair during the 2008 election campaign, was widely reposted across China’s top news portals including Sina, Sohu, and Baidu on Wednesday. State media websites like Xinhua and People\’s Daily also reposted versions of the story.



    It seems that some sections of the Chinese press might be on the look out for embarrassing stories involving the U.S. President…..

    Good for Larry. His story is still alive. He has always been extremely courageous and one day there will be evidence to support his story. It will take a few others to come out in public. Maybe Larry can do an interview with the People’s Daily.

  17. Larry may want to contact the author of this story and set him straight on what’s what. The author is hard on Larry and uninformed.

    The Economic Observer Online
    Bldg 11A, No. 47 Ande Lu Dongcheng District, Beijing 100011
    Phone:+86 (10) 5227 1366 – 1236
    English@eeo.com.cn
    Copyright The Economic Observer Online 2001-2012

  18. Good morning Zach et al.

  19. Good Morning All; ZachJones, we are playing with a different set of rules with the internet, instant translations, everyone carries with them instant video that can be transmitted any where on the planet in a flash…Let this be a lesson to our biased media outlets who publish what they want us to know about and leave out what they want kept secret…Like I have said before, “they are no longer the only circus in town”, if they don’t start reporting the news they are going to be called out by others and will suffer the consequences…Unfortunately, it is the Chinese government calling them out for not doing their jobs in 2008, making all Americans look foolish for not vetting our President…This is just the beginning…Because of a few we will all have mud on our face.

  20. Sibley Files Motion to Hold Obama in Contempt-of-Court
    Via Montgomery Blair Sibley

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-does-mr-obama-believe-he-is-above.html

    At the November 29, 2012, Preliminary Injunction hearing in Sibley vs. Alexander, Dinan and Lightfoot – a class action lawsuit in D.C. Superior Court against the three District of Columbia Electors of the so-called Electoral College – Barack Hussein Obama, II, refused to produce his original Short-Form “Certificate of Live Birth” and his original Long-Form “Certificate of Live Birth”. These documents are the sole evidence that Mr. Obama has proffered to the American People to establish his Article II, §1, eligibility for the Office of President. I had subpoenaed those documents for the hearing. As a result, I today filed my Verified Motion for Rule to Show Cause Why Barack Hussein Obama, II, Should Not Be Held in Contempt of Court. Judge Mott has reserved decision on that motion pending a response by the Defendants.

    What exactly is the objection to producing your original birth certificates when subpoenaed? No objection was filed by Mr. Obama or his attorneys. He simply chose to ignore a lawful court process. Such disdain and disregard of the rule of law is appalling from one who – pursuant to Article II, §1 – has sworn to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Everyone else in these United States has to follow the law and prove — as required by 8 USCS § 1324a — that they are legally entitled to work before beginning a job. Why does Mr. Obama believe he is above that law and can ignore it? – http://amoprobos.blogspot.co.uk

  21. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I see that William Jefferson(Kissit) Clinton was back on the prowl again –

    Inside the Beltway: Bill and the hoodie

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/28/inside-the-beltway-bill-and-the-hoodie/

  22. More corruption in North Carolina: http://www.rat1.com

  23. OK! I know that I am NOT the brightest bulb in the room but…… let me get this right! At the press conference, that the red head ding bat, at the white house said that the dinner between the kenyan fraud and Romney went well and that Romney congratulated the kenyan fraud for beating him with VOTER FRAUD that they would keep in touch and WORK TOGETHER because they SHARED the SAME INTEREST!!! Is that to take down AMERICA? Did Romney DECEIVE us? Why such a secret meeting? Dinner only lasted one hour? Someone needs to DEMAND from Romney what the butt kissing with Barry was really all about!!!!

  24. Thanks observer.

  25. OKLAHOMA !!!!

    ‘Be who you are and say what you feel, because those that matter – don’t mind… and those that mind – don’t matter.’

    Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election… While everyone is focusing on Arizona ‘s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!! Description:

    An update from Oklahoma :

    Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values…!

    Guess what………. Oklahoma did it anyway. Description:

    Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered.
    This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

    Guess what………. Oklahoma did it anyway. Description:

    Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal’s to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional

    Guess what……… Oklahoma did it anyway. Description:

    Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

    More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina’s, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida . Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.

    The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns. Oklahoma , a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I’m sure that was a set back for the criminals The Liberals didn’t like it –But …. Guess what……….. Oklahoma did it anyway .

    Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver’s license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only

    If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

    By the way, the Liberals don’t like any of this either

    Guess what…who cares… Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

  26. C.W.
    Can you explain what the video means,good or bad for who?did not agree with some statements,please decifer

  27. Bob Strauss…………….
    Maybe all of the OKIES are fom MUSKOKEE. More power to them!

  28. Bob Strauss……………..
    While secession is always an extreme act, it might become necessary for ALL states to formally secede from the union simultaneously. This would disfranchise the alleged Fed,and in less than 10 minutes a new government could be established. I have a gut feeling that sooner or later the states are going to be pushed into such an action. At the same time the secession would be accompanied by a formal declaration that ALL CREDIT DEBT is legally declared void,and paid in full. This would be accompanied by NEW MONEY,and a NEW start. While this all would be quite painful,it conceiveably would be the lesser of all the evils.

  29. Air Force Brat!

    Ginger — anyone can say anything at a press conference. That does not make it true. This is especially important to keep in mind regarding the current administration.

    Unless we have real-time video of the Zero-Romney meeting, anything anyone says about what allegedly took place there, or what was allegedly discussed, is nothing more than speculation, rumor, and innuendo.

  30. CW…..wondering why these challenge court cases for Obama to show his originals never appear to place in evidence as backup before any judge rules, the established probable cause evidence for forgery of the proffered documents shown thus far to the public by the pResident. That would keep the usual response of “already shown” documents from getting established as some legally verified evidence. Those phony documents must be up front challenged via this already documented evidence. They must be challenged on the record via this established probable cause for felony forgery in some ongoing case to my mind.

  31. CW Found this post you made 17 December 2008.
    What has changed?

    The ultimate objective of a presidential election to inaugurate a
    constitutionally qualified president that as closely as possible
    reflects the will of the people.
    The states have been given the power and the duty to control presidential
    elections by the US Constitution.

    The pervasive attitudes of the state officers and election officials is
    that they, incorrectly, have no power to qualify presidential candidates
    and/or they depend on political parties to vet the candidates.

    The political parties have evolved and changed since the creation of the
    US Constitution and are given no powers. However, members of the parties,
    as US Citizens have an implied duty to uphold the Constitution and party
    officers typically have taken oaths as elected officials to uphold the
    US Constitution.

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/2008-electoral-college-votes-certification-of-voters-state-laws-us-constitution-electors-signed-certification-certifications-invalid-obama-ineligible-violators-should-be-prosecuted-constitutio/

  32. Frog in heating water.

  33. Yow Bob!!! This certainly is outstanding information!!! ; ) !!! Thank you for taking the great effort & time to share it!!! Bob, ~ do you happen to have a link for this info you posted???

    With a link I can try to check out this info with Oklahoma law’s and state Congress members. If this info checks out as true, factual, valid & accurate, I will share this info with federal & state Congress members, Alex Jones, Edwin Viera, Ron Paul, Bruce Fine, Orly Taitz, Mario Apuzzo & many, many other wonderful USA American citizen’s!!! Thank you again, Bob!!! : ) !!!

  34. The Islamists in Egypt just rushed through a new constitution based on islamic law. No equal rights for women and slavery is legal!

    Wonder if Obama is still proud of their push for democracy? Is he still taking credit for helping?

  35. Air Force Brat — I just finished reading the CW post comments from where I left off yesterday. My work schedule gives me only very limited time on the internet. As to your question re: the Bible Code & Paul Ryan, I haven’t done any searches in that regard. Most of my time studying the Code is trying to understand if it is real, how it is to be read. At the current time all I can say is at very remote odds associated information will show up at equidistant skips in a compact area relative to a common matrix (skip). In this regard, I found in Genesis 2 thru 6 the “finds” concerning America and Obama, Biden and Romney.

    As to religious questions, for my Christian friends, there are some strong indicators in the Code in favor Christianity and Jesus. The question is how to interpret the “finds?” The “finds” in favor of Christianity are very impressive.

    SueQ — Your fears concerning worst case scenario: I fear that, too. The Bible Code does not rule that out. Hold onto your faith. We must all trust in the One who knows all.

  36. Thanks Dean M.

  37. OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGED IN NEW LAW SUIT
    AND SIBLEY SEEKS APPOINTMENT OF HAWAIIAN EXAMINER
    TO SUBPOENA OBAMA’S ORIGINAL BIRTH RECORDS

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/11/new-lawsuit-seeks-obamas-records.html

    …..Accordingly, Montgomery Blair Sibley has this day filed a Petition for Review in the District of Columbia Court of Appeals seeking to challenge the qualifications of Barack Hussein Obama, II to occupy the Office of President of the United States. Additionally, Mr. Sibley has filed an Omnibus Motion in that matter seeking subpoenas for Mr. Obama’s: (i) original birth certificates, (ii) Selective Service and Social Security records, (iii) college applications and transcripts from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School and (iv) his passport records – all documents Obama has refused to reveal. Mr. Sibley said: “What has he got to hide? I must say in my experience where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I think the public has a right to know the truth.”

    Additionally, in a separate suit pending in D.C. Superior Court, Mr. Sibley has applied to the Court for the Appointment of an Examiner to take out-of-state deposition and subpoena for documents all related to Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Said Mr. Sibley: “The powers that be may well block my attempts to get at the truth, but it will not be for my lack of trying to get at that truth.”

  38. Air Force Brat!

    Many thanks for your reply, Dean M. Truly fascinating about the Code and the things it reveals. Have been feeling for quite some time (along with many others) that something is about to happen; and whatever that “something” is, it’s NOT something to dread. Will remain cautiously optimistic and wait to see how things play out. Thanks again.

  39. No surprise on this one:

    COMMUNIST PARTY USA: GO, OBAMA, GO!
    Organization staging events to encourage higher taxes, spending

    The Communist Party USA, which just days ago boasted of its celebration over the election victory by Barack Obama, now is organizing teleconferences and promoting rallies in support of Obama’s plans to raise taxes – and to demand full government funding for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid “and other basic human needs.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/communist-party-usa-go-obama-go/

  40. Another possible 2016 presidential candidate?
    He is a good man, but NOT qualified to be Prez or V.P.:

    Ted Cruz, newly elected senator from Texas, recently wowed conservatives at a speech given recently and is supported by the Tea Party.

    Wikipedia says this:

    Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where his parents, Eleanor Darragh and Rafael Cruz, were working in the petroleum business.[8][9] His father was a Cuban immigrant during the Cuban Revolution to the United States. His mother, an American, was reared in Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent.[9][10]

  41. Starla | November 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm |

    Yow Bob!!! This certainly is outstanding information!!! ; ) !!! Thank you for taking the great effort & time to share it!!! Bob, ~ do you happen to have a link for this info you posted???

    With a link I can try to check out this info with Oklahoma law’s and state Congress members. If this info checks out as true, factual, valid & accurate, I will share this info with federal & state Congress members, Alex Jones, Edwin Viera, Ron Paul, Bruce Fine, Orly Taitz, Mario Apuzzo & many, many other wonderful USA American citizen’s!!! Thank you again, Bob!!! : ) !!!
    **************************
    Starla,
    Working on getting link for you. I got it off of a friends Facebook page, he is searching for link.

  42. Starla | November 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm |

    Yow Bob!!! This certainly is outstanding information!!! ; ) !!! Thank you for taking the great effort & time to share it!!! Bob, ~ do you happen to have a link for this info you posted???

    With a link I can try to check out this info with Oklahoma law’s and state Congress members. If this info checks out as true, factual, valid & accurate, I will share this info with federal & state Congress members, Alex Jones, Edwin Viera, Ron Paul, Bruce Fine, Orly Taitz, Mario Apuzzo & many, many other wonderful USA American citizen’s!!! Thank you again, Bob!!! : ) !!!
    **************************
    Starla,
    Try this link for Oklahoma story.

    http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGklHdhLlQ2XEASxdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWgwN285BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAw–/SIG=12hrb9luv/EXP=1354364253/**http%3a//setup.rightwingamerica.com/index.php/topic,7309.0.html

  43. This usurper is getting a little too big for his britches.
    ****************************************************************
    Though embedded in a “joke”, he looks serious. Obama is making it clear he will do things HIS way…
    http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121130005-nice-list.html

  44. Open Letter to Republicans in Congress

    Dear Fellow Republicans:

    Having been a GOP member for over fifty-five years, I wish this letter could begin with, “Thanks for your service”, but to millions of us in the heartland it is mostly, “No thanks”, and you need to know some of the reasons why there is such a feeling of disdain.

    6) BENGHAZI – You’ve spent weeks hung up on who altered the talking points. Time is of the essence, and we are waiting for you to get to the heart of this tragedy. We want and deserve to know who gave the order to “stand down”. You seem to be poised to let the clock run, so that you can move on to the next topic, say, “fiscal cliff”, or whatever, and let this travesty just fade away.

    5) MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD occurred in the presidential election, which likely was stolen. Abundant documented proof exists, and We the People fear that there will never again be an honest election. What do we hear from you? Crickets. Dead silence. You are brushing it aside and moving on. You just cannot be bothered. Shame !

    4) FAST & FURIOUS is becoming old history, and your attempts to be effective have fallen far short of what we expected. Your investigative efforts have no teeth and are going nowhere. We see it and we know it. Double shame !

    3) OBAMACARE is going to literally kill Americans and the country’s economy. You all in the House have talked big about cutting funding in order to “starve the beast.” You, no doubt, will cave on this, too. All we hear are wimpers from wimps. Sorry.

    2) IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES BY OBAMA have been committed during the last four years – egregious, unconstitutional power grabs, blatant disregard for the rule of law, treasonous actions, etc., etc. – and yet none of you has been serious about commencing impeachment proceedings in the House. Millions of us have concluded that it is FEAR. You fear riots, media ridicule, and last, but not least, the potential loss of your cushy positions, power, perks (including exclusion from Obamacare), provileges, and lifelong pensions.
    It just might cost you something to save the country from destruction. (Now, that’s a novel idea. You ought to read quotes from our Founding Fathers.)

    1) JANUARY, 2009, Congress convened to accept the electoral votes. Nary a one of you said a “mumblin’ word” and submitted an objection to the election of Barack Obama (aka, Barry Soetoro). Legally it was incumbent upon you to have done so. We knew he was not constitutionally qualified to be President, and we know that you knew it.

    Later one of the congressional attorneys submitted talking points to all of you so that you could calm our fears. We didn’t buy it, because we know the truth. Fraudulent birth certificates; sealed scholastic, medical and passport records; Marxist and Islamic affiliations; and Chicago gangster-style politics are hard to overlook. Somehow, though, you all managed to brush it off completely.
    Your failure to act in January, 2009, is at the root of why we are in terrible crisis today.

    America is heading horrendously downward, and you congressional Republicans are “fiddling while Rome burns.”

    Don’t think for one minute that you all are safe in your D.C. ivory towers. Wimps, cowards and self-servers in the ruling class are among the first to be liquidated in a Marxist and/or Islamic dictatorship. Read history.

    “When the righteous are in authority the people rejoice: but when the wicked bear rule the people mourn.” Proverbs 29:2

    We the People are mourning today.

    Yours very truly,

  45. Correction – 3) should be “whimpers from wimps”. I have changed the master and am going to fax or snail mail to a large number of Repubs and also a copy to Reince Preibus, GOP Chairman.

  46. cabbyaz | December 1, 2012 at 1:51 am |
    Brilliant!

  47. Oh, Ladyhawke, thank you. (Just caught another typo and fixed the master again.) It is rather blunt and simple, but sometimes it takes straight talk. It is just another voice among multitudes who have tried to talk some sense into our elected officials, who in the end will be without excuse.

  48. Air Force Brat!

    Cabbyaz — love it! You get your point across very, very well.

  49. Cabbyaz
    Send one to justice@foxnews.com. friends@foxnews.com
    Rush,Levin,Savage,Republican Governors ,Hannity,Rusty Humphries

    Wonderful letter

  50. Call Congress. Tell them article nov 26th Pravda ,communist paper,
    Says O’s a communist and exposing the Communist Manifsto
    http://www.commieblaster.com. They need to read this and Wake up!!

  51. Read info on Osama death lies? Web site and book on
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com

  52. Good morning Zach, et al.

  53. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    cabbyaz | November 30, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    Another possible 2016 presidential candidate?
    He is a good man, but NOT qualified to be Prez or V.P.:
    ____________________________________

    Don’t worry – They will have changed the Constitutional requirements by then!!!

  54. Great letter Cabby! :-)

    Zack….thanks for the article re: Simpson/Bowles.

  55. Truth Now,
    Thanks and I appreciate the suggestions. Hadn’t thought about conservative media people.

  56. Air Force Brat!

    Also, those who have helpful suggestions would benefit all of us by writing their own letters and adding their voices to ours.

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