Joe Biden gun control moral issue, January 9, 2013, If moral issue Obama should apologize, If they bring a knife to the fight we bring a gun, Obama hypocrisy

Joe Biden gun control moral issue, January 9, 2013, If moral issue Obama should apologize, If they bring a knife to the fight we bring a gun, Obama hypocrisy

“I just want you to know that we are working on it (gun control)….We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”…Barack Obama

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”…Dianne Feinstein

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”…Heinrich Himmler

Joe Biden September 20, 2008.
“I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey. Don’t buy that malarkey. They’re gonna – they’re gonna start peddling that to you. I got two. If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem.”

Joe Biden January 9, 2013.

“Biden: Gun effort a ‘moral issue'”

“Vice President Joe Biden described his gun control effort as a “moral issue” when meeting with gun safety advocates and mass shooting victims on Wednesday morning.

“When I think of all the tragedies that we have endured, I don’t think anything has touched the heart of the American people so profoundly as seeing those and learning of those young children not only being shot but riddled with bullets,” he said, referring to the December 14 shooting at the elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.

“Every once in a while there’s something that awakens the conscience of the country, and that tragic event did it in a way like nothing I’ve seen in my career,” he said.

The meeting was held by the task force President Barack Obama appointed to present recommendations by the end of this month. It included survivors of the Virginia Tech shooting, the stepfather of a victim of the Colorado movie shooting, as well as advocates from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/09/biden-gun-effort-a-moral-issue/comment-page-1/

Moral issue Joe?

Shouldn’t Obama apologize for saying:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.“

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109 responses to “Joe Biden gun control moral issue, January 9, 2013, If moral issue Obama should apologize, If they bring a knife to the fight we bring a gun, Obama hypocrisy

  1. This is extremely timely and educational:

    A Question For The Cold Case Posse

    The author, Brian Reilly, is the man who asked Sheriff Arpaio to get involved in the birth certificate controversy. He later gave very good information to Mike Zullo re. the Bricker Amendment (failed by one vote) and the Connally Reservation, including the abuse of U.N. treaty laws.

    This meeting in AZ on Jan. 15th is going to feature Mike Zullo’s discussion of the above.

    You need to read the following, especially to brush up on history as it pertains to the. U.S.’s involvement with the U.N.

    This gun control issue may be silenced simply by a U.N. small arms’ treaty supporting an executive order by the usurper.

    We should not underestimate the intentions and goals of the globalists working through the U.N.
    READ:

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/a-question-for-the-cold-case-posse/

  2. P.S. At first blush it may appear that my above post doesn’t fit re. the subject of gun control, but, oh, it does. The globalists have been working for decades to destroy the sovereignty of our country, and arms control is absolutely a necessary part of their agenda. Congress will be by-passed if deemed necessary.

  3. “… I don’t think anything has touched the heart of the American people so profoundly as seeing those and learning of those young children not only being shot but riddled with bullets…”

    Not even the parents saw them, it’s said.

  4. Well, if they’re still saying “a picture is worth a thousand words” the large images above the current Drudge headline might do more for informing the uninformed dupes about the crisis they too are in while they whistle past their own graveyard:

    HITLER…………………………………………………………………STALIN

    WHITE HOUSE THREATENS ‘EXECUTIVE ORDERS’ ON GUNS

  5. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    As a Biden sidebar – I see Justice Roberts is going to swear in Obama twice and Sotomayor is going to swear in Biden. Because Obama is a usurper and selected Sotomayor to the supreme court, then she is not legal. Oh what a mess we weave!

    “In May 2009, President Barack Obama nominated Sotomayor to the Supreme Court to replace retired Justice David Souter”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57562046-10391739/chief-justice-john-roberts-to-swear-in-obama-twice-again/

  6. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – The whole ball of wax is about to melt down!

  7. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PPS -“USURPERVILLE” has been totally removed from wikipedia.

  8. “GOP governor: Obama ‘minister of God'”

    “Barack Obama is “an appointed minister of God to do what is good,” according to the prayer of Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell at the Commonwealth Prayer Breakfast held at the Richmond, Va., convention center.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/gop-governor-obama-minister-of-god/

  9. Gordo,
    That is sickening! Would Gov. McDonnell have said that about Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Castro, Stalin, just to mention a few? I wish some of these soft-hearted pantywaists would keep their mouths shut and stop embellishing when it is uncalled for.

  10. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    To CW and all who contribute here – Isn’t it wonderful to know all we say here is the God’s Honest Truth and all our enemies are telling the Devil’s Lies.

    THE DEVIL’S CODE
    HIS HEART DOES NOT EXIST
    HE SPEAKETH WITHA FORKED TONGUE
    HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WICKED
    HIS SWORD SLAYS THE DEFENSELESS
    HIS WRATH UNDOES THE INNOCENT

    BUT NOT TO THE: THE KNIGHT’S CODE
    HIS HEART KNOWS VIRTUE
    HIS TONGUE SPEAKS ONLY TRUTH
    HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WEAK
    HIS SWORD DEFENDS THE HELPLESS
    HIS WRATH UNDOES THE WICKED
    THIS WAS TH E OATH OF A FIGHTER PILOT. Keep forwarding and add more
    PS-THE COWBOY AND FIGHTER PILOT IS AMERICA’S VERSION OF OLD EUROPE’S CHIVALRY AND KNIGHTHOOD.
    PSS – BOBBY KENNEDY WAS KILLED B Y SIRHAN SIRHAN A PALESTINIAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE KILLED BY ALI MEHMET AGCA A TURKISH MUSLIM. THIS STARTED IN 1968. HOW SOON WE FORGET
    Send this to 1000 Friends or 1000 times to One Enemy.

  11. Cabby and Gordo,

    It is extremely disappointing what Gov. McDonnell said, and unfortunately he echoes what some wacko churches teach because they misinterpret the meaning of Romans 13.

    According to Chuck Baldwin, the author of “Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission”, Hitler pushed this lie, using scripture, to keep the churches in line.

  12. citizenwells

    SueQ.
    Amen

  13. citizenwells

    Too many quoting the bible conveniently omit the part about Jesus overturning the moneychangers’ tables.
    Righteous indignation.

  14. The way I see it………. the right of self defense is a God given right. Therefor no human authority has the right to take the means to do so from me.

    As Peter said in Acts 5:29 “We must obey God rather than men! ” I know he was speaking about preaching the gospel, but it proves that there is no higher authority than God Almighty in an individuals life. Even if they are duly elected or appointed leaders (which Soetoro is definitely NOT!)

  15. Pretty funny………………..this is a story I missed back in 2009. Take heart patriots. “Bomb blows big hole in Lenin statue’s butt “.

  16. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    SueQ – I like – “Butt bomb blows big hole in Lenin statue!”

  17. citizenwells

    Beans will do that.

  18. I am laughing so hard I can hardly stand it.

  19. citizenwells

    From Edward C. Noonan:

    Submitted on 2013/01/09 at 1:39 pm

    See my newest “Chairman’s Corner blog” at http://americanresistanceparty.org … it is entitled, “My Radio Show Report of an “EVIL” California Federal Court Judge ” It is my summary of my interview on the Terry Lakin Action Fund Radio Show which pertained to my (and Orly Taitz) January 3rd Federal Court hearing in front of a very evil and ignorant Chief Federal Judge. If you want to be astounded, read my post there, or my PRESS RELEASES at http://www.americanresistanceparty.org

    My point is this… how can you hold these jackasses to the constitutional principles or Federal/State or County laws that we live under, when they don’t live under normal COMMON SENSE concepts.

    For instance, the Chief Federal Judge, in reply to our court complaint that Soetoro (aka BHO) could not prove he was a U.S. Citizen, that Soetoro had 2 forged birth certificates, that Soetoro had a photoshopped Selective Service Registration card, that Soetoro had a stolen Social Security number, the judge had the audacity to tell us in open court that the illegal alien in office was not compelled by the Constitution to have valid ID, nor a valid Social Security number, nor valid Selective Service registration.

    WHAT I WITNESSED IN THAT COURTROOM WAS PURELY EVIL!

    Edward C. Noonan
    Founder & National Committee Chairiman:
    American Resistance Party

    http://www.americanresistanceparty.org

  20. We are witnessing the slow deterioration of the health of Chavez. In reality he is probably closer to the END OF THE LINE than has been told. In a similar position is Fidel Castro. Perhaps we will also see it happen right here in DC as well. I have read many times in my lifetime that such incidents occur in multiples of 3 at a time,or in close date proximity to each other. Would that be too much to ask for?I certainly don’t wish anyone anyone bad luck,but we must recognise that “What is…IS”.

  21. Nothing in the FED is going to change UNTIL WE THE PEOPLE change it………….forcibly if necessary. Do the American people have the GONADS? At present I have not seen,or heard of anyone except Orly Taitz who has had the intestinal fortitude to confront the SLIMEY bastards. By default I must stand with Orly.

  22. Just watching the news,

    It was suggested that Obama may issue an Executive Order and bypass Congress (subverting the Constitution’s II amendment) and develop and national database, fingerprinting (Al-Gore’s suggestion) and additional regulations. What will the GOP do? Sign up to play hoop or golf with him.

    Go figure. I’m shocked.

  23. ………..and the most sickening part of it all is that BASTARD is not even the legally elected POTUS. He is NOTHING……..so what the hell is everybody so damn afraid of? ….HIS LYING MOUTH? He is nothing other than a PLAYGROUND BULLY. Nobody is going to do it for us,……..we must unite,and become a bonded “band of brothers.” We also know that the SCOTUS is complicit in the ongoing treasonous acts against America. When push comes to shove the courts,or laws will have no meaning whatsoever.

  24. As CW as well as most here (especially CWV2) point out over and over, an EO of this sort is unconstitutional even if done by a legitamate president. If done by Soetoro……….. well you tell me?

  25. William …………
    He will NOT change anything,nor will he be able to subvert the Constitution, rather all he can do is make illegal xos in his sick notion that he can change it by XO. Again I hasten to add that so far everything he has done has been done ILLEGALLY,because first of all he is NOT the legally elected POTUS. There IS NO LEGALLY ELECTED POTUS. There is only a Chicago criminal NOTHING occupying the WH. Big difference!

  26. William
    I’m not the least bit shocked at what this communist does or wants to do. He outed himself when he said that he wanted to fundamentally change the United States. he did not, however, say… change it to what. That came when he was confronted by Joe the plumber. People are no longer educated in this country, as to the dangers of communism to this society, or what communism actually is. Everything about this man that we tacitly accept as true, tells us that he was born to a communist, raised by communist muslims, and mentored by various influential communists.
    Despite what this club in DC says, they all walk like a duck. All we ever had in both the past elections was hope. The turds are now planning the biggest coup in the history of our country…so much for hope. Any of these animals in DC are cut from the same cloth, as they all start out with the same ambitions and aspirations….power, control, and easy money. I have said it here before…all you have to do is follow the money. Currently, there is so much money involved that these people will lie, cheat, steal, obfuscate, and murder, to further their goals. Make no mistake about it, and for goodness sake do not be shocked, surprised or mortified at anything that is coming down the pike, as they are pulling out all the stops to keep the power and position they have stolen.

  27. …a P.S.
    That pesky 2nd Amendment containing the word “infringed”…again, look it up. Is banning firearms infringement? How about ammunition? Is that infringemnt? Or….registration?…permit?…especially for a fee.
    What we have experienced were NOT accidental shootings so safety courses wouldn’t have made a difference. What WOULD have made a difference however, would have been attention to the desensitization to murder and killing and mayhem of the young men involved…..why no young women? Could it be that, as a society, we are not pushing them toward the macho image?…Could it be that, by nature, they are nurturers?…Are we asking the right questions?

  28. Infringe:
    Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

  29. SueQ
    …and there’s that pesky word “limit”…I wonder if our illustrious president knows the definition of “limit”…Oh…wait…he’s not illustrious…he’s not even the president…so I guess it doesn’t matter whether he knows or not…
    …thanks Sue…

  30. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Just an opinion here but I am finding it VERY difficult to believe ANYTHING a so called “conservative” says.

    Seems to me we heard Boehner say all kinds of stuff to simply bow down to “the one” in the end.

    I heard Obama say that he had moved more than half way on the negotiations.

    A total lie, Obama didn’t “move” at all, he got exactly what he wanted, and I believe “if” we would have wen’t over the “cliff”, Obama would have smiled and told the “people” that HE did all he could, but the Republicans were in the way.

    BOTH sides are in on it, I haven’t seen a LEGIT budget voted on that actually CUTS spending.

    And I don’t think I’ll see one for a very long time.

    As I stated months ago, I’m ready for the stuff to hit the fan, the sooner the better as far as I’m concerned, the longer we wait, the longer it will be before we can get “better”.

    I just hope I’m around when that day comes.

  31. Interested Bystander

    And off topic but:

    I bowled the best I’ve ever bowled for 3 games tonight.

    237, 239, 246 for a total of 722.

    I’ve shot a 289 before for a single game, but for a three game series, this is the best I’ve ever done.

  32. Interested Bystander

    It sure does seem to me that Obama believes he has the power to do whatever he wants, and he’s getting away with it.

    I hate Executive Orders, and believe they are ABUSED.

  33. Something is still rotten in Denmark (USS of A). Why wait until February 15th to look into this?

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

    Breaking news! Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Roberts schedules a case by Attorney Taitz regarding Obama’s forged IDs to be heard in conference before the full Supreme Court

  34. Congratulations, IB! You had a great series. It is nice to hear some good news! (:

  35. Ray
    The conference: assignment of opinionsAt the end of a week in which the Court has heard oral arguments, the Justices hold a conference to discuss the cases and vote on any new petitions of certiorari. The Justices discuss the points of law at issue in the cases. No clerks are permitted to be present, which would make it exceedingly difficult for a justice without a firm grasp of the matters at hand to participate.[13] At this conference, each justice – in order from most to least senior – states the basis on which he or she would decide the case, and a preliminary vote is taken.

    Justice Scalia has professed frustration that there is little substantive discussion,[14] while former Chief Justice Rehnquist wrote that this makes the conference more efficient.[15] The votes are tallied, and the responsibility for writing the opinion in the case is assigned to one of the justices; the most senior Justice voting in the majority (which is the Chief Justice if he is in the majority) makes the assignment, and can assign the responsibility to him or her self.
    Does this mean that the court is hearing oral arguments for this case the second week in February? While I believe that Orly, should this prove to be the case, should get whatever credit for getting the case before the Supreme Court, I truly hope someone else does the presenting…just sayin’…

  36. Mark Levin Calls For Obama’s Impeachment Should He Try This…

    January 9, 2013 By Daniel Noe

    Democrat Chuck Schumer said recently that it is being talked about that Obama should override Congress and borrow more money if Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling, which Mark Levin says is clearly unconstitutional.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/mark-levin-calls-for-obamas-impeachment-should-he-try-this/

  37. Bob,
    It would probably be something like this: There would be a created need for Zero to declare martial law due to the created or real emergency, and in the process, to “save” the nation from an economic collapse, he would deem it necessary to take matters into his own hands and raise the debt ceiling. Congress could go hang. Under such “dire” circumstances I doubt that impeachment proceedings would even be started. Would anyone in the House have what it takes to “buck the tide”?

  38. cabbyaz,
    The people in Congress better “lawyer up”, because this usurper is on a mission to usurp more and more power, and there is going to be a showdown between the commies, and the Americans.

  39. How can Roberts swear in Obama on Jan 20 while there is a lawsuit pending, saying he doesn’t qualify as a natural born Citizen?
    ************************************

    BREAKING NEWS! CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT JOHN ROBERTS SCHEDULES A CASE BY ATTORNEY TAITZ REGARDING OBAMA’S FORGED IDS TO BE HEARD IN CONFERENCE BEFORE THE FULL SUPREME COURT

    Press Release: Law offices of Orly Taitz

    Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States John Roberts scheduled a case by attorney Orly Taitz dealing with Barack Hussein Obama’s use of forged IDs to be heard in conference before the full Supreme Court. The case titled Noonan, Judd, MacLeran, Taitz v Bowen provides a mountain of evidence of Barack Obama using a last name not legally his, forged Selective Service application, forged long form and short form birth certificate and a Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425 which was never assigned to him according to E-Verify and SSNVS. Additionally, this case provides evidence of around one and a half million invalid voter registrations in the state of California alone.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/chief-justice-john-roberts-obama-challenge.html

  40. I guess we are coming to a real crisis point in this country. Soetoro is pushing as hard as he can to see what he can get away with. It is becoming a do or die thing for the Libs and the Muslims.

    Their unoly alliance is going down under if they don’t make it now with their messiah holding the most powerful office in the world. Now’s their big chance. If they can’t force those gun-toten Americans to goose-step to their politically correct mantra, they may have to face reality–the reality that their Muslim and Marxist utopias are bull shit–nothing but pipe dreams and the vast majority aren’t smoking their dope.

    It’s going to unfold as it will. The backlash is coming, maybe with bullets. Hope that won’t be necessary.

  41. DHS Insider Report: Coming This Spring: “Life for the Average American is Going to Change Significantly”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/01/dhs-insider-report-coming-this-spring-life-for-the-average-american-is-going-to-change-significantly-6-2455740.html

    (not like it hasn’t already)

    Ayers is thrilled that his plans after all these years are finally coming to his type of fruition (rot for normal people).

  42. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder about some of these insider reports from people “deep inside” governmental agencies. It isn’t that I disbelieve that we are in dire circumstances in our country, but so-called “whistleblowers” can have ulterior motives, and those who are their contacts can also have planned book deals, or whatever. Only time will tell. This one thing I do know, if we focus on the doomsday scenarios painted out there, we will lose what it takes to be overcomers.

  43. CabbyAZ……………..
    In truth it would require very little fortitude on anyone’s part. The biggest problem WE THE PEOPLE face is FEAR OF WHAT NAMES WE WILL BE CALLED. What the hell is wrong with allegedly grown adults when they allow PLAYGROUND BULLYING to completely control them? I would have to say that there is a MASS HYSTERIA controlling everyone,and they havn’t the slightest idea as to what is happening. Instead they sit and whine while wringing their hands, and muttering over and over ” What will others think”? If everyone remembers, this is a Harriet Reid sort of thing. remember his televised “Oh the war is lost,”,,,,,,,”Oh the war is lost”,…..”Oh the war is lost”, as he wrung his hands like he was COMPLETELY INSANE?. Watching him was one of the most sickening things I have ever witnessed as far back as I can remember. I have thought for a long time that he is seriously disturbed to begin with.

  44. CabbyAZ………….
    I think that you have hit upon one of the most revealing notions of all. I believe that you are absolutely correct about the alleged information coming from so called INSIDERS. And I further agree that there is a very strong incentive…..MONEY. BUT, by virtue of their alleged whistleblowing they have exposed exactly WHAT they are as well as their intent going forward. From that it is not really difficult to extrapolate the idea that this was and still is their compelling reasons for being involved in government in the first place…….MONEY,AND POWER. Unfortunately the OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS do not possess the intelligence quotient to realise that their behavior is easy to see through. They think that they are SO SUPERIOR to all others that NOBODY would ever dare to speak the truth. In reality the overeducated wordsmiths are some of the DUMBEST BUNGELWORSTS on earth.

  45. Observer………….
    It is well known fact that Ayers,and people like him are mentally warped to begin with. I would have to say that anything that such a person would expect as a result of his lunatic ravings would be an absurdity to most sane people. One must remember that he was among a crowd who thought to get their childish way they must bomb buildings,and murder people.It is also easy to understand why Marxist BASTARDS would ally themselves with such an animal. I have always looked upon such people as low life SNEAKS,whom you NEVER should turn your back to or take your eyes off of. Because that is when they attack you. They do not possess the courage to face others from in front of them. Most of us refer to such people as YELLOW. I hasten to add the word SLIME.

  46. Bob Strauss……………
    Why would the BASTARDS spend millions for wristbands when they can tattoo a conbon on the back of your hand,for next to nothing. Such a tattoo is called the mark of the BEAST. It was also done by NAZI GERMANY on political prisoners. The conbon(BARCODE) will become your primary identification………your name will hold no significance whatsoever.

  47. ……..I hasten to add that Nazi Germany did not use CONBONS, They used numbers which were tatooed upon the prisoners arm. Bar CODES did not exist then.

  48. G’NITE ALL Please dear God forgive my sometimes unintended irreverence of your presence……..Amen

  49. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    bob strauss | January 9, 2013 at 11:51 pm |
    How can Roberts swear in Obama on Jan 20 while there is a lawsuit pending, saying he doesn’t qualify as a natural born Citizen?
    ************************************

    Now add this – “Obama to Use King and Lincoln Bibles for Inaugural”

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/obama-to-use-king-and-lincoln-bibles-for-inaugural/

  50. Americans die but Holder gets to stay:
    Eric Holder to Stay on as Attorney General

    Loyalty to the mafia bosses gets you protection.

    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/holder-stays-attorney-general/2013/01/10/id/470772#ixzz2Ha99sffv
    Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now!

  51. So Mr. Holder, explain this to me…..you are going to take/regulate our weapons, but you armed the drug cartels, theives and thugs heavily with AR 15’s and other assorted weaponry for multiple mass murders. And, when those weapons and those thugs eventually come into our communities, we will be totally defenseless.

    Speaking of arms, what about those US weapons being passed around from Libya to Turkey to Syria? Are they better off in the hands of radical Islamists?

    No wonder all the different US agencies are stocking up on munitions. This has been in the works for a long time, they were just waiting for the “right”
    disaster to happen to implement the disarming of law-abiding US citizens.

    I saw a brief clip of Biden with Holder at his side during this 2nd ammendment roundtable….Holder sure looked smug to me. BTW, what has happenend with the contempt of congress charges brought against him?

  52. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    observer | January 10, 2013 at 9:16 am |
    Americans die but Holder gets to stay:
    Eric Holder to Stay on as Attorney General
    _______________________________________

    Maybe they couldn’t find anyone who wanted it!! Can you find a crew for a sinking ship?

  53. ‘THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED’

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130110/DA3N0POG2.html

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  54. bob strauss | January 10, 2013 at 10:24 am | DID CIA PICK SANITIZE OBAMA’S PASSPORT RECORDS?

    YES!

  55. Honor First…….FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY
    People like Biden and Holder can probably recite every word in all of their lawbooks both forward and backward……..BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE EVEN ONE OUNCE OF UNDERSTANDING,as to what WE THE PEOPLE will allow them to do. Speaking for myself neither Soetoro,Biden or Holder will disarm me without spending a hell of a lot of RESOURCES,AS WELL AS A LOT OF LIVES OF THEIR OWN PERSONELL. I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY FIREARMS VOLUNTARILY.THEY WILL HAVE TO PRY MY WEAPONS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS. THAT IS NOT A CASUAL REMARK ….IT IS A PROMISE. I WILL NEVER USE A LETHAL WEAPON AGAINST ANYONE WITHOUT LEGAL JUSTIFICATION, HOWEVER IN MY OWN PERSONAL DEFENSE AS WELL AS THE DEFENSE OF MY FAMILY I WILL USE A LETHAL WEAPON IN A HEARTBEAT. FURTHER I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OFFENSE,AND DEFENSE, AND EXACTLY WHERE THE LEGAL DIFFERENCE LIES. THEY MIGHT THINK THAT THEY CAN RAM THEIR ILL CONCEIVED NOTIONS DOWN THE THROATS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. THEY WILL RECEIVE A HUGE,AND QUITE POSSIBLY, PAINFUL LESSON FROM THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE AS I DO. MR. SOETORO, THINK A SECOND TIME BEFORE YOU ACT TO TAKE AWAY THE PRIVATE WEAPONS OF AMERICANS,OR TO INFRINGE UPON OUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS IT EXISTS NOW.

  56. I think this threat of an EO has a specific purpose. For one thing, the average gun owner becomes so insensed at the gall of these people that they begin to speak out openly and loudly about their 2nd Ammendment rights on many forums. They contact their representatives. They call talk shows. They write letters to the editor.

    This allows the NWO folks to gauge the strength of their enemy. Hopefully they are overwhelmed, but I don’t put it past them to be recording names of those particularly pesky people and websites that greatly influence others.
    This is not to say that we should “tone it down”. On the contrary, we need to keep it going. I’m pretty certian that all here are on some kind of “list” already. It’s too late to turn back.

    My second suspicion is that they want to provoke us to do something stupid. Any thoughts?

  57. More on contact, “Rosebud”!!

    http://www.trunews.com/listen_now.htm

    Recent Broadcasts:

    Tuesday January 8, 2013

    Guest: Doug Hagmann

    Topic: The latest developments in the war against the constitutional Rebublic of The United States.

  58. Thornton Parsons

    Been gone a few days. My husband had a stroke on Saturday and I’ve been busy at the hospital with him; however, I find that history is repeating itself and can be corrected.

    In Hitler’s 1925 Mein Kampf, he says, “When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'”

    Thirty days after being published in the Federal Register, executive orders become law. While they do bypass Congress, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/Presidential-Executive-Orders.htm

  59. Best wishes Thornton.

  60. Thornton Parsons

    Thank-you, CW. Congress needs to start altering some executive orders or stop funding the mandates.

  61. Sorry Thorton. I pray he recovers fully.

  62. SueQ
    Most of what we are seeing lately from the “administration”, and many of these websites, is hearsay. Since 08, it has constituted a form of harassment designed to break the will of the opposition…(us)….and represents a form of psychological warfare. These other websites may even be part of the disinformation scheme. In order to maintain sanity, and counter this sort of thing, it is essential to research the source of all material you read/hear in all the various information venues. Because the country is now split, (those on the side of Constitutional Law and those that aren’t) there is a sort of on-going undeclared warfare between the two. So far, all this has occurred in the absence of any kind of tangible physical resistance from either side. A good reason would be that any kind of applied force is going to necessitate a trial of some sort and additionally, and most probably, some discovery. It is nearly common knowledge that Obama’s history cannot withstand any type of scrutiny. This is the main problem (especially for the libs) with his presidency. Eventually, people are going to begin to confront some of these EO’s of his with a quo warranto type of complaint and his folks know what that will lead to. Part of why Biden and Holder are such key players in this charade, as they are as high as they (the administration) can go, short of the top slot, and…they (Biden and Holder) know where all the bodies are buried. So…my advice to all would be to consider the source of a lot of what you are hearing, avoid those who are afflicted with the “chicken little” syndrome…i.e.: Sorcha Faal, Doug Hagman, and others with questionable background and motives. Personally, I prefer those who are objective and genuinely trying to proffer solutions to all the insanity. , such as Bill Whittle.

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  64. Thornton Parsons……….
    My own father passed away from the complications resulting from a stroke. It is never easy to care for a victim of a stroke. I know exactly what you are up against, and you have my deepest sympathies. If you have any questions or if I can be of any help please do not hesitate to either telephone me personally @ (260) 747 3042,or email me @ d_wright2809@comcast.net , and I will try very hard to be of whatever assistance I can.

  65. FROM: Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq’s Web Site

    OUR CORRUPT AND TREASONOUS MEDIA REFUSES TO REPORT ON A CASE WHERE THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS EXERCISED BY A CITIZEN SAVED COUNTLESS LIVES

    Posted on | January 2, 2013

    Fw: Hey CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN

    January 02, 2013 2:19 PM

    Subject: Fw: Hey CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN`

    “On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend.

    After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!

    Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?

    ===> There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone.

    ===> SO SINCE THIS STORY MAKES THE POINT THAT THE BEST THING TO STOP A BAD PERSON WITH A GUN IS A GOOD PERSON WITH A GUN, THE MEDIA IS TREATING IT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.

    ===> Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week.”

    From: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=373399

  66. Thornton Parsons,
    So sorry to hear about your husband’s stroke. Please know that we care and are concerned very much. Trust that he has a full recovery.

  67. Here are a few names of the defendants in a
    major high crimes, racketeering, federal grand thefts of approx. $43 KNOWN TRILLIONS of USA dollars from the USA treasury, national and international money laundering law suit:

    MAJOR BANKS, GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS AND THEIR COMRADE CAPITALISTS TARGETS OF SPIRE LAW GROUP, LLP’S RACKETEERING AND MONEY LAUNDERING LAWSUIT SEEKING RETURN OF $43 TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE UNITED STATES TREASURY

    “NEW YORK, Oct. 25, 2012 /PRNewswire/ — Spire Law Group, LLP’s national home owners’ lawsuit, pending in the venue where the “Banksters” control their $43 trillion racketeering scheme (New York) – known as the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History and identifying $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money by the “Banksters” and their U.S. racketeering partners and joint venturers – now pinpoints the identities of the key racketeering partners of the “Banksters” located in the highest offices of government and acting for their own self-interests.

    In connection with the federal lawsuit now impending in the United States District Court in Brooklyn, New York (Case No. 12-cv-04269-JBW-RML) – involving, among other things, a request that the District Court enjoin all mortgage foreclosures by the Banksters nationwide, unless and until the entire $43 trillion is repaid to a court-appointed receiver – Plaintiffs now establish the location of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money in a racketeering enterprise participated in by the following individuals (without limitation):

    ===> Attorney General Holder acting in his individual capacity, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris (both acting in their individual capacities), Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary (acting in his individual capacity), Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.

    The lawsuit alleges serial violations of the United States Patriot Act, the Policy of Embargo Against Iran and Countries Hostile to the Foreign Policy of the United States, and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly known as the RICO statute) and other State and Federal laws.

    [...]

    ===> “The complaint – which has now been fully served on thousands of the “Banksters and their Co-Conspirators” – makes it irrefutable that the epicenter of this laundering and racketeering enterprise has been and continues to be Wall Street and continues to involve the very “Banksters” located there who have repeatedly asked in the past to be “bailed out” and to be “bailed out” in the future.

    ===> The Havens for the money laundering schemes – and certain of the names and places of these entities – are located in such venues as Switzerland, the Isle of Man, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Cypress and entities controlled by governments adverse to the interests of the United States Sanctions and Embargo Act against Iran, and are also identified in both the United Nations and the U.S. Senate’s recent reports on international money laundering.

    Many of these entities have already been personally served with summons and process of the complaint during the last six months.

    It is now beyond dispute that, while the Obama Administration was publicly encouraging loan modifications for home owners by “Banksters”, it was privately [committing complicit RICO racketeering & money laundering high crimes and] ===> ratifying the formation of these shell companies in violation of the United States Patriot Act, and State and Federal law.

    ===> The case further alleges that through these obscure foreign companies, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bank, Citibank, Citigroup, One West Bank , and numerous other federally chartered banks stole trillions of dollars of home owners’ and taxpayers’ money during the last decade and then laundered it through offshore companies.

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  68. Thornton. Sorry to hear about your husband. Be patient and strong. Strokes are horrible.

  69. Thornton Parsons

    Thank-you, Old Sailor, Sue Q, Cabby, and everyone. I’m just going one day at a time with this, as it’s new territory. The doctor said his stroke was mild. He’s at home now in a hospital bed, somewhat limited in his activities, but still able to gripe, gripe, gripe. I was thinking of another word. May God direct all of our activities as we try to save our beloved nation.

  70. During the night my brain was working and couldn’t get off of John O. Brennan, the nominee for Director of CIA. Because he was in the news almost five years ago re. a break-in concerning passport records, I did some “look see” at Wikipedia about him and was amazed to read that he has been with the CIA for years in the past, although since 2005 he has had other endeavors. If you are interested, read the following for some background:
    (from Wikipedia)
    Brennan’s 25 years with the CIA included work as a Near East and South Asia analyst, as station chief in Saudi Arabia, and as director of the National Counterterrorism Center.[3][6][10] After leaving government service in 2005, Brennan became CEO of The Analysis Corporation, a security consulting business, and served as chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance, an association of intelligence professionals.[11]
    (snip)
    Brennan’s CIA career, which reached the “highest rungs” of the CIA, included analyst and administrative work in the Washington D.C. area, and overseas work as a spy.[2][6][14] At one point, he was a daily intelligence briefer for President Bill Clinton.[6] In 1996 he was CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers bombing killed 19 U.S. servicemen.[6] In 1999 he was appointed chief of staff to George Tenet, then-Director of the CIA.[3][6] Brennan became deputy executive director of the CIA in March 2001.
    **************************
    Now, in reflection upon what we know about the 2008 break-in re. passport records and the unsolved murder of Lt. Harris, allegedly one of the three involved, it seems perfectly logical to me that it was the work of the CIA, because John Brennan headed up this private company, The Analysis Corporation, at the time, and he himself was already a well-trained, deeply-entrenched, and experienced former CIA agent (even a spy).

    Dean M., if you are around, this would help confirm your hypothesis that it is the CIA that has covered and put off limits the pertinent info that we seek about Obama.
    .

  71. Thornton Parsons

    Thank-you, Paxson. In regards to the CIA, I’ve always believed that they are responsible for all of the cover-ups. They operate as a private army.

  72. More about the passport saga:

    Very interesting that Pamela Geller wrote an article over four years later
    Obama’s Passport Breach: Unanswered Questions, and an Unsolved Murder

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/obamas_passport_breach_unanswered_questions_and_an_unsolved_murder.html#ixzz2HaxTyLjH

    In March, 2008, there was an investigation by the State Dept. into an improper computer access to the passport records of Obama, and days later those of Hillary Clinton and John McCain. One employee was targeted: a contract worker for the company headed by John O. Brennan. This was, no doubt, the stint referred to in Wikipedia, after he left government service for awhile.

    You remember that a month later a key witness in the passport case was murdered. His name was Lt. Quarles Harris, who was shot in the head in his car. This murder case has never been pursued.

    It was always thought that the real purpose here was to tamper with the passport records of Obama and that Clinton and McCain were used as cover. Well, oddly enough, a couple weeks later Obama confessed to have taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Jake Tapper, journalist was surprised and said, “…….was news to many of us who have been following the race closely and it was odd that we hadn’t heard about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.”

    Pamela Geller asks, “Did Obama confess to this trip, which he doesn’t mention in either of his biographies, because of the passport breach?”
    As we know, questions have remained about why he took the trip at all and what he did there.

    Hmm……..In agreement with others who have recently posted, I would say, “What does Brennan have on Obama?” If Obama truly was in the CIA as many allege, Brennan may have MUCH more on him than we ever thought.

  73. It’s beginning to look like :
    communism/CIA= secrecy vs. Constitution/we the peolple=transparency
    My personal opinion (and we all know what that’s worth), is that the CIA, albeit a necessary agency, is and has been, rogue for years and needs a temporary shutdown, audit, and restaffing/restructuring. They have become the western version of the KGB.

  74. coldwarvet,
    That is a good formula to illustrate what we seem to be facing. What a ghastly thought about the CIA becoming the western version of the KGB, BUT I believe you are right on.

    For a long time, Dean M. has been saying that it has become a rogue organization and badly needs some congressional oversight. We all know that good people and organizations can go bad when they are left strictly to themselves, especially when power is involved. (and money)

  75. This is what Judge Napolitano has to say about the 2nd Amendment..would make a nice amicus brief before the Supreme Court.

    http://www.washingtontimesmail.com/sbjrfblbvdwtwdphtcfvbtwfsktbbmlzcwvgbhrlbckjsj_kltdlrmlrthf.html

  76. cabby
    Well….just sayin’…we seem to have a lot of alleged conservatives up in DC with nothing to do…now they have something.

  77. Did someone use Joe Biden and morals in the same sentence? That should elicit even one of those ‘leftist snickers and giggles.’

  78. What really tears it is that all these millionaires are not helping with their money and putting down middle class people who work, scrimp and save to give their children a chance at a better life. They are wanting to play ‘heal the poor and sick’ on the backs of those already carrying the load. They are a bunch of coniving, consciousless people who are playing games while America is headed for massive disruption. These people are bringing in illegals to steal the vote and use resources that should be in reserve for Americans where their own forefathers worked to salvage a nation out of a wildnerness. This administration is the most evil bunch of conniving usurpers and overthrowers this country has ever know. They are above all made of of the most ignorant and selfish people ever to have emerged upon the political scene in any of our lifetimes. These people are more dangerous than those Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor because of their underhanded tactics and how they have taken over offices great and small of the various state, local and federal givernment to the point that Americans have no way for redress or even addressing the problems these people have created in order to destroy this country. They are leaving man to think that their only hope is for a revolution. If the judges and justices do their job and make sure they are even getting the documents and evaluating them according to the Constitution of this land, America has a chance to come out of this. No one ever said that a battle was easy. Justices and judges do your job would be my battle cry, because our forefathers and military have shed blood and died for your right to do your jobs. Are they going to sit back and give this country away without a fight? Let’s hope not.

  79. Have you noticed on these liberal news outlets when the liberals snicker and giggle whenever they mention the people who are trying to prevent a takeover of this country? Have you noticed how they try to make it look like thousands of people are the butt end of a joke when these violations of laws by the Obama administration are being discussed? This is in order to influence people and the courts into thinking they are humoring derranged people. These liberals are using their mouths and lies to throw this country into chaos. The leftists are no more than puppets for foreign governments to use to destroy this country. They think they have their milllions and nothing will interefere with that and that their positions are secure. They will see that they are being used after it is too late. These mockers and scoffers are going to get a big bite out of their arse(s) by karma before it is said and done. These people who are mocking are no more for ‘poor’ people and middle class than they have ever been. Look at Michael Moore with his millions trying to relate to the ‘poor’ with his Bever Cleaver ball hat and dressing like a pre highschooler. That fat piece of garbage has never been out, just like the rest of those leftists for anyone but themselves. They are taking this country down the drain as they mock and scoff in their phoniness at those trying to defend this country.

  80. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    BO = Barack Obama
    CIA = Caught-in-the-act
    BO + CIA = BOCIA
    BOCIA = ‘The Kid’ in Italian!!

  81. Something that has been bugging me for a while now concerning Napolitano.
    While I have the utmost respect for the judge, I would be interested to know first hand, if he has confronted any of his former or current colleagues concerning what is happening in this country and what their responses actually are.
    A man of his stature most certainly has more than a host of personal contacts and available venues in which to garner the truth surrounding the current set of circumstances we find oursellves facing today, and what can be done to rectify it. Is there really that much dirt floating around our legal system that these jurists are folding, almost daily, like so many dominoes.
    This man knows!……….
    Heard there is no bag limit on tyrants….lol

  82. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    cwv2 – What we are witnessing is what happens if you do not take care of a small sore. Take care of it right away and it will go away. When Obama’s name was first brought up someone THEN should have said he was not eligible due to his NBC. Can you imagine the firestorm that would have happened if George Bush’s mother had been born in England? I would give anything to be able to go back in time and see what the result would have been by the democrats. NOW everyone knows the truth and realize it has on their hands one of the biggest scandals(infections) ever imagined. Only we here at CW speak the truth. They reap what they sow.

    PS – If anyone says we are nuts tell them to look up Senate Resolution 511. which has been removed from wikipedia. Senator Leahy of Vermont along with Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton are three of the only 5 or 6 Senators who signed it. Leahy says McCain was eligible because BOTH parents were US born.
    GOD HELP US

  83. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – Hurry up before they remove the “both parents” and change to “One” parent. We got them hog tied!

  84. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PPS – To add insult to injury Obama has requested to be sworn in using an Abraham Lincoln and a Martin Luther King Bible. Remember both were Republicans.

  85. …Mr. Bill
    Doesn’t it simply say “parents” (plural)?…creates the bone of contention…not for me …for them.
    PPS…
    It really matters not what hoops Obama jumps through..he is who he is.

  86. Mr. Bill,
    Doesn’t that seem to be a slap in the face? I mean the use of those Bibles? It is a “stick it in your eye” type of thing, because we know where he stands, even if we don’t know where he was born. :)

  87. coldwarvet,
    BTW, what a splendid article by Judge Napolitano! Many of the comments were interesting, too.

  88. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    coldwarvet2 | January 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm |

    You are right not “both” but only “parents” – But what’s the difference?

    Breaking News –

    Bill Clinton named ‘Father of the Year’

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/01/bill-clinton-named-father-of-the-year-153760.html

    5th comment –

    Go to their website and you’ll see the 2007 award was to….dumbroll please…John Edwards! Good Company for Mr. Clinton.

    WHAT A PARTY!

  89. cabby
    You know…the article by Napolitano was so good that I had to refer back to the author to see for sure if it was him talking. It begs the question: where are these judges? This is not the only good article he has written.

  90. Mr. Bill
    The difference is why the Supreme Court has made this issue a hot potato. It will open up Pandora’s box as far as they’re concerned. Personally, I can’t see how or why the guardians of the Constitution could let this go on so long. Hopefully they wanted to allow the crime to become so massive that there would be no question that people were more than ready to get rid of his majesty and his Clingon War Bride. That is just wishful thinking however, on my part.

  91. coldwarvet,
    I would guess that it is FEAR. There is probably more of a stranglehold exerted on the justice system than we are prepared to believe. Just a thought……

  92. cabby
    I am certain that any number factors are in play. But, as we are not privy (transparency) to any of that information, we are just going to have to wait and see. Actually though, thanks to computers, we have been able to know quite a lot.These coverups and false flags however, point to something huge.

  93. At least someone got their come-up-ens for a change.

    Teacher Busted For Stomping On American Flag In Classroom

    There is also a good link to “US Code for the Flag of the United States of America”, which would do many of us well to review.

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/8911/teacher-busted-for-stomping-on-american-flag-in-classroom/#ixzz2Hc9pbcVK

  94. coldwarvet2 | January 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm |

    Agree! This is a very complex issue.

  95. cabbyaz — There’s very little doubt in my mind that Soetoro/Obama himself worked for the CIA. I’m sure he was recruited during his student days due to his Muslim background and credentials. The CIA recruited Muslims during the Cold War to help against the Communists. (see Ian Johnson’s book, A MOSQUE IN MUNICH.)

    During the Cold War, the Intelligence Community built an empire within our government never dreamed of by our founding fathers. It was done in the interest of “National Security.” There was supposed to be Congressional oversight but Congress has not been diligent in this regard. In fact, they don’t even want to know what goes on. (I know from personal experiance. Even Conservative Presidents like Nixon, Reagan and Bush greatly abused the Constitution with covert operations carried out by the CIA and other alphabet agencies — NSA, etc.)

    Without adequate oversight, unlimited funds, concentration of power in the Executive Branch of government, abuse is inevitable. Not only that, it opens the door for someone like Soetoro to capture the Presidency. His backers have been putting their pawns in place for quite some time.

    We’re in a bad place. I just wonder who, on the inside, who has seen this quiet coup take place, is in a position to do anything about it? Government and those drawn to it, have become so self-serving. One wonders if there are any patriots among them at all? Anyway, Brennan is obviously one of Soetoro’s buds. He probably knows where all the bodies are buried.

  96. Thornton Parsons

    I think that anyone who has a grave concern about our Constitution and raises an issue with their elected officials in Washington, these officials should address these issues instead of passing the buck as to whose job it is to do what . . . and allowing judges to tell Americans that they have no standing. If you’re a taxpayer, you have standing. Period.

  97. Thornton Parsons

    In other words, Congress should give top priority to violations of the Constitution.

  98. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Dean M – My entire working career was in the private sector of D.C.. When the CIA started in the 50’s the inside joke was when you asked someone where they worked in the Government they would say the Dept. of Labor, The Dept of Agriculture etc. If they worked for the CIA they would just say -“I work for the government.” To which we would say “Oh you work for the CIA?”

  99. Thornton Parsons | January 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    In other words, Congress should give top priority to violations of the Constitution.
    ************************************
    Oh, but that is becoming so old-fashioned. (eye wink).
    You are so right, but somehow when Congress is really needed it is AWOL.

  100. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    World’s funniest government bureaucat cartoon – The scene is a tremendous hall with hundreds of desks with people sitting at them. The scene shows several people gathered around a desk at which the person is weeping. There is a sign on the wall saying “Department of Agriculture”. What’s the matter John? inquired one of the people – MY FARMER HAS DIED!!!

  101. While I’m on the subject, here’s my big question: Where are the patriots? Where are the Americans who must really know what is going on? John McCain? GW Bush? Colin Powell? Sarah Palin? Condy Rice? Clarence Thomas? Paul Ryan? Mitt Romney? The list goes on and on and where are they? Why are they all so silent?

    And Talk Radio? Do these talk show people ask how it was possible for the Republicans to win Congress and lose the Presidency? All these people split their tickets to vote for Republican Representatives but a now-revealed-far-Left Democrat for President. All the polls and experts like Dick Morris were wrong? These people just wanted to vote Republican for Congress and split their tickets on a massive scale to vote for the pro-Muslim Marxist Obama?

    Yessiree! That’s it. And Romney was so disliked there were numerous precincts where Obama got 100% and Romney 0% of the vote. He didn’t even get one vote and nobody questions that? Take that back, it was because Romney didn’t go on the Michael Savage show that he lost. That’s his latest rant. These guys don’t ask the right questions and they cover up for the government like Conservative politicians as well. They rant and rave and say “aint it awful” because they are making money preaching to the choir, but that is as far as they go.

    So, where are the patriots? Orly Taitz has to be one of those at the top of the list right now. Is Justice Roberts going to listen to her to open the door for the truth, or to try and squelch it once and for all? (Bye folks, gotta go to work.)

  102. Dean M.,
    Personally I basically believe in the theory you’ve held for a long time.

    Knowing something of human nature, I find it hard to grasp that everyone in high places has knowingly colluded in some grand conspiratorial way to
    acquiesce to the destruction of America.

    One scenario is that which you have pointed out re. officials, judges, news media, including conservatives, having been warned to stay away from the “hidden” things, because of national security involvement. I lean toward that viewpoint and believe it is very plausible just because of the observations many of us have made over the last several years. For instance, the adamant responses from people like Levin, Savage, and others, border on the absurd.

    We know he is hiding something, but what is he hiding and why is he hiding it? Simple questions, and CW has reminded us of that many times.

    I’ve been asking myself some “what if” questions. Here is one:
    Just, what if……..Obama’s father is really either Davis or X? Of course, he would be a liar then, but what else is new? For one thing, he would then be a natural born citizen. So that issue would no longer be an issue.

    Here’s another:
    Just, what if…….he really was born in Hawaii and his real birth certificate is being held completely off limits from everyone because of incriminating info, such as real father, etc.? Down goes another ineligibility factor.

    What is my point? Simply that it IS possible he is holding the above to be released at some future date if things get really nasty in the country. None of the above would absolve him of fraud, deception, and a host of other vices, but it would take the steam out of us birthers.

    One final thing: If he was with the CIA in whatever capacity, that could be an explanation he could use as a reason for all of the social security numbers, addresses, etc. Frankly I believe there are many aces up his sleeve or that of his handlers.

  103. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    My hero in the 50’s and 60’s in Washington – James Boren(Brother of Senator David Boren of Oklahoma.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boren

  104. cabby
    As for myself, I am only a partial birther and consider the issue only incidental, but not surprising, to the issue of his being a communist.
    Communism is bad for America period….very bad. It was bad for every other country in which it was tried…very bad. It took major social upheavals in all those countries to get rid of it. Communism only serves an elite few who cling to power by defrauding the public.
    You violate no law by throwing it off. They will violate many laws( and already have) by foisting it upon you. You (and any others in defense of the Constitution) are wholly justified in using whatever force is necessary and available to destroy it.
    This IS war, albeit social warfare. As in any other war, it is for the real estate and the treasury.
    They will take it by whatever means necessary. Force, if need be.
    People need to realize that the first step in combating this evil is to ignore whatever edicts that are in conflict or violation with the Constitution. They also need to realize that they need to marginalize this administration. If enough people simply ignore (marginalize) this administration, it will become ineffectual to the point it can no longer function. Obviously, if greater pressure is applied, it will speed up the process immensely.
    They have frauded the American taxpayer by bringing in hoards of illegals and other foreigners in an attempt to garner votes and have broken the treasury in terms of freebees to take care of them. In other words these foreigners have been brought into the country under false pretenses, and additionally, due to overburdening of social infrastructure, have fundamentally changed the social structure of the population to that of near third world standards.
    I am not calling this anything but what it is, although there are various labels that tend to give it a modicum of legitimacy where it deserves none.

  105. Hopefully, this can be resolved and this is not the next step! However, what will be well be!
    Little known American Historical Fact
    I was completely unaware of this event that took place in Athens , TN in 1946. I did not know an armed revolt on American soil by WWII veterans ever took place during our lifetime. A very sobering video to say the least.
    Now the second amendment should be a little clearer to everyone.
    http://voxvocispublicus.homestead.com/Battle-of-Athens.html …………………<<<<………CLICK HERE
    FIRST FACTS:
    Please do not delete this bit of US History of which many Americans have no knowledge. View it, share it and pray that we will never need such a response to government!
    Reference:http://constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm

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