Democrats blame Republicans for Democrat policy failures, Lack reason and accountability, End justifies the means, Democrat policies destroyed economy jobs family budgets

Democrats blame Republicans for Democrat policy failures, Lack reason and accountability, End justifies the means, Democrat policies destroyed economy jobs family budgets

“only 2 percent of the 3.5 million jobs gained since the recession ended in June 2009 are midpay. Nearly 70 percent are low-paying jobs”…AP, Kitsap Sun January 22, 2013

“With a 63.7% labor force participation, “conditions in the labor market are considerably worse than indicated” in July’s report”…economist Joshua Shapiro, WSJ August 3, 2012

A tax increase to a company results in some combination of the following:
Product and service price increases.
Employee and hours cutbacks.
Reduced hiring.”…Citizen Wells

I am not praising Republicans.

Many of the actions and policies of Obama liberal Democrats can be simply explained.

The end justifies the means.

They lack reason and accountability.

From the Mirriam Webster Dictionary.

Reason

2 a (1) : the power of comprehending, inferring, or thinking especially in orderly rational ways : intelligence (2) : proper exercise of the mind (3) : sanity

Accountability

the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one’s actions <public officials lacking accountability>

Yesterday I was informed of the following letter to the editors of the Greensboro Daily News. The author, an older gentleman, is someone that I know. He represents the old guard, those who follow the Democrat Party come what may, and blame Republicans for all that is wrong. Lack of reason and accountability.

“Obama is right to get tough on Republicans”

“Regarding “Obama warns GOP in debt ceiling battle” (news article, Jan. 15) and “Mr. Friendly Obama unveils tough talk” by Dana Milbank (column, Jan. 16):

So, President Barack Obama “warned” the GOP in his recent White House news conference. Applause!

From now on, I hope he will continue to brand Republicans in a way, and to a depth, that FDR did in 1932!

We already know that congressional Republicans cannot win the debt ceiling “battle,” and the only question now is, “how badly will they lose the fight?” The answer is, “How much they will be perceived as harming the American people.”

We also know that congressional Republicans seem determined to harm Americans by turning our nation into a Third World country where the majority of people live in poverty, are poorly educated (if at all), are without quality health care, without Social Security and without taxes — of course! — but with a massive military to protect the wealth of the powerful “2 percenters.” No doubt about it.

Yes, Mr. Milbank, “friendly Obama” recently spoke like Lincoln or TR, or FDR or Truman, or LBJ when he delivered the free, “tough and friendly advice” to the GOP. Again, applause!”

http://www.news-record.com/opinion/623224-94/obama-is-right-to-get#continue

The last time that Republicans controlled the White House and Congress was December 2008.

The Labor Force Participation Rate in December 2008 was 65.8 %.

The Labor Force Participation Rate in December 2012 was 63.6 %.

Add that 2.2% drop in the labor force participation to the unemployment rate!

Reported here yesterday from the AP.

“But 42 months after the Great Recession ended, the U.S. has gained only 3.5 million, or 47 percent, of the 7.5 million jobs that were lost.”

“But only 2 percent of the 3.5 million jobs gained since the recession ended in June 2009 are midpay. Nearly 70 percent are low-paying jobs;”

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/ap-job-facts-january-23-2013-recession-tech-kill-middle-class-jobs-70-percent-of-jobs-added-low-paying-government-policies-biggest-job-killer/

In 2009 when Obama took office, 31.9 million Americans used Food Stamps.

The latest numbers from the USDA reveal that over 47 million Americans now use Food Stamps.

These economic failures from the Democrats have come with record spending and increased taxes for lower income Americans.

It is no wonder why Obama and so many on the left are anti religion.

“And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.”…Jesus, John 8:32

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109 responses to “Democrats blame Republicans for Democrat policy failures, Lack reason and accountability, End justifies the means, Democrat policies destroyed economy jobs family budgets

  1. Good morning.

  2. An email I received.
    *************************

    Subject: Good Bye, Nancy

    Did not check this out…..

    Yeaaaaa, they have clipped her wings!!!

    Subject: Good Bye, Nancy

    It’s gone, gone, gone never to return. Nancy’s jet is gone!!!!
    This was long overdue!
    This should be published for all elected officials. What a waste of Tax Payer’s money!

    USAF TOOK NANCY ‘S JET AWAY

    Well, looks like the old broad of the House will have to pay her own way
    back and forth to California (mexifornia). The Air Force took away her jet! Read the article below.

    USAF TOOK NANCY’S JET AWAY (verified by Snopes)

    The real reason that Nancy Pelosi is considering retiring is that they took her Jet away.
    Ah, poor baby!

    As a result of a Judicial Watch filing under the Freedom of Information
    Act, the USAF released documents detailing House Speaker Pelosi’s use of
    United States Air Force aircraft between March 2009 and June 2010. The data are
    published in the Judicial Watch Verdict of December 2010, Volume 16,
    Issue 12.

    Here are the main highlights revealed by the USAF. Keep in mind that all
    the data below relate to United States Air Force aircraft used by one woman
    over a sixteen month period.

    Several of these flights included Ms. Pelosi’s guests, such as grown
    children, grandchildren, various in-laws, friends and hangers-on. Over 95% of
    the trips were between the west coast and Washington DC, for what you
    might call a commute between home and the office. READ it and WEEP!!

    Total trips: 85 over a 68 week period, or 1.25 average trips per week.
    Total mileage: 206,264 miles, or 2,427 average miles per trip.
    Total flying time: 428.6 hours, or an average of 5 hours per trip.
    Cost to the taxpayers: $2,100,744, or $27,715 per trip, or $1,285,162 per year!

    Cost of in flight food and alcohol: $101,429; $1,193 per trip; $62,051 per year.

    On one junket to Baghdad, according to the Air Force report, she had the aircraft bar stocked with Johnny Walker Red Scotch, Grey Goose Vodka, E&J Brandy, Bailey’s Irish Cream, Maker’s Mark Whiskey, Courvoisier Cognac, Bacardi Rum, Jim Beam Whiskey, Beefeater Gin, Dewar’s Scotch, Bombay Sapphire Gin, Jack Daniels Whiskey, Corona Beer and several varieties of wine. This was obviously a very important “gubment bidness” trip.

    Evidence generally speaks for itself, and in Ms. Pelosi’s case it speaks
    the language of abuse and (evidently) a serious familial drinking problem,
    for in a single year she and her spawn drank an amount in excess of the net
    income of the average employed American! When she said, “… If the
    stimulus doesn’t pass, five hundred million people might lose their jobs…”, I
    thought she was unintentionally revealing her ignorance. I’m now more
    inclined to think she was pickled.

    Even though she can no longer abuse the USAF, she can either fly on her broom, or fly Southwest Airlines, where bags fly free.

    If you are an AMERICAN citizen it is YOUR DUTY to PASS THIS ON!!
    Because, you won’t see this reported on MSNBC.

  3. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Does the name Marie Antoinette ring a bell?
    “The last act of any government is to loot the treasury.” – General George Washington

  4. “Sheriff Joe Investigator Invites Gen Powell To View Unreleased Obama Identity Fraud Evidence”

    “While being interviewed by Mark Gillar, host of The Tea Party Power Hour, Sheriff Arpaio’s lead investigator in the Obama Probe Mike Zullo said he would extend an invitation to Ret. Gen. Colin Powell and allow him to review all document fraud evidence collected thus far including some that has not been released to the general public. Further on in the interview he says he believes every American has standing to challenge the eligibility of a sitting president but doesn’t think any of the lawsuits have been properly brought to the courts. Zullo says there must be a different tact with some veracity behind it aimed at CONgress.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/sheriff-joe-team-invite-to-powell-obama-evidence.html

    Published on Jan 24, 2013

  5. One of the SSNs linked to Obama in National databases found by investigators Sankey and Daniels belongs to Lucille Ballantyne, the mother of the Chief Actuary of SSA Harry C. Ballantyne, resident of CT. Did he aid and abet Obama?

    Posted on | January 24, 2013 |

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  6. Sheriff Joe Investigator Invites Gen Powell To View Unreleased Obama Identity Fraud Evidence

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/sheriff-joe-team-invite-to-powell-obama-evidence.html

  7. Alan Keyes & Linda Jordan Discuss Obama’s Eligibility And Felony Document Fraud

    WA State Supreme Court Makes It Clear Obama Is Above The Law Host Mark Gillar @ Blog Talk Radio Linda Jordan found out the hard way that liberal judges believe Obama is above the law.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/alan-keyes-linda-jordan-talk-obama-eligibility.html

  8. Gordo……………
    Don’t look for Powell to ever look at ANYTHING that doesn’t fit the LIBERAL matrix. Hell will freeze over first. Just as long as UP remains DOWN they are totally happy. I would however suggest that if Powell had anything to do with engaging the enemy in Viet Nam, I seriously doubt that he would have been able to execute any sort of actions against the enemy. He would have become a stumbling block for a REAL general. Kerry is another just like him. When you add the TWO together the sum is 0. Powell must have been the General in charge of PAPER CLIPS. I doubt that he could fight his way out of a WET PAPER BAG.

  9. have you seen this article on yahoo?
    http://news.yahoo.com/majority-sees-obamas-gun-control-plan-favorably-120211861–abc-news-politics.html

    Now, have you noticed in the past few days they also have had articles saying a majority of Americans support on demand abortions and a majority also support amnesty for illegal immigrants?

    WOW, the state run media is getting more and more obvious!

  10. “I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.”

    “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/take-my-liberty-and-give-me-money/

  11. Anybody heard any news about Holder and the Fast and Furious documents?

  12. How to Brainwash a Nation…………

    Your answer, oldsailor, as to why up is down.

    Yuri Bezmenov is a former KGB agent and an expert on ideological subversion. He discusses the slow process of demoralization that transformed America from a conservative and mostly homogeneous country into a socially-Marxist and egalitarian one.

    Interview conducted by Edward Griffin in 1985.

  13. exclusive
    ‘[Tyranny Is] Not a Wolf That Dies’: Our Exclusive Interview With the Air Force Vet Behind That Viral 2nd Amendment Defense
    Politics

    “You’re an American, there’s no reason to hold your voice…Speak up, because nobody else is going to.”
    Read More »

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/24/tyranny-is-not-a-wolf-that-dies-our-exclusive-interview-with-the-air-force-vet-behind-that-viral-2nd-amendment-defense/

  14. Bob Strauss…………..
    You might want to check out the words of the new Maine Governor….Paul Lepage. He is calling a SPADE,exactly that,and he doesn’t much care who knows it either. Type Paul Lepage into your search engine then read the hits. Might be pretty interesting reading.

  15. What, Exactly, Does Boehner Know About the U.S. Gun-Running Allegations in Libya? These Comments Raise Questions
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/24/what-exactly-does-boehner-know-about-the-u-s-gun-running-allegations-in-libya-these-comments-raise-questions/

  16. HonorFirst
    I especially liked the analogy of good-cop bad-cop, in the comments, in reference to the dem’s and repub’s, concerning most ALL of the issues currently under discussion on capitol hill. It makes the 2nd Amendment issue loom even larger as it waxes closer, on a daily basis, to a last resort against this ultra-secret and tyrannical usurpation of power and control we have had the unfortunate experience of witnessing in our lifetime. Boehner has got to go…period. I don’t trust him and I haven’t spoken toor observed, anyone that does. In some ways, a co-conspirator is worse than the conspirator himself….in the words of the song…”a false-hearted lover…is worse than a thief”…
    Has anyone pursued, with their elected officials, getting a standardized identification (statewide) and vetting system for those running for office in their state?

  17. “BOEHNER: OBAMA OUT TO ‘ANNIHILATE’ GOP”

    “(THE HILL) Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he believes the primary goal of President Obama’s second term is to “annihilate the Republican Party.”

    “Given what we heard yesterday about the president’s vision for his second term, it’s pretty clear to me that he knows he can’t do any of that as long as the House is controlled by Republicans,” Boehner said in a speech Tuesday to The Ripon Society. “So we’re expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the Republican Party.

    “And let me just tell you, I do believe that is their goal — to just shove us into the dustbin of history.””

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/boehner-obama-out-to-annihilate-gop/?cat_orig=politics
    ==============
    You have the info on Obama — USE IT.
    ==============
    “Sheriff Arpaio’s Commander Mike Zullo Blames John Boehner For Congressional Inaction On Obama!”

    Published on Sep 9, 2012

    TeaPartyPowerHour

  18. “Major General Paul Vallely Talks Obama Eligibility; Multiple Social Security Numbers”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/video-major-general-vallely-talks-obama-fraud.html

  19. Air Force Brat!

    Gordo @3:58 p.m. — I wonder if it will ever dawn on Boehner that he and most of the other Republicans in Congress have done a fine job of annihilating themselves.

    That being said, I’ll go on the record here as saying that I miss the “old” John Boehner. “HELL NO YOU CAN’T !!!” was heartwarming when I heard him shout it live on national TV. If only he could go back to being THAT John Boehner.

  20. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I would have to comment that I believe this is the best talking I’ve heard come out of Orly:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/orly-taitz-connecticut_n_2541233.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl4%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D261053

    If you scroll past the story, and past “The Donald’s” tweet, there’s a little short of 2 minute exerpt from an interview.

    The intervewer is IGNORANT, there’s just no doubt about it.

    It doesn’t suprise me anymore that the media continues on this “newspaper announcements” pitiful argument, because IF you would KNOW what you are speaking of, you would have RESEARCHED YOURSELF to know that what Orly said about these announcements is 100% TRUE.

    The media and Obama would want you to believe that the “birther’s” story is that Stanley KNEW Obama was going to run for President one day. and BECAUSE they KNEW he was going to run for President, they FRAUDULANTLY informed the newspapers that Barry had entered the World.

    WRONG

    The newspapers got ALL of their information from the Hawaii Department of Health.

    And Orly is RIGHT, the Dunham’s COULD HAVE mailed in a live birth form SO LONG as they had a witness to the birth (such as Granny), IF Barry was “birthed” at home.

    From how I read the Statutes, Stanley could have CALLED the HDoH and a form could have been filled out.

    Either he was born in a hospital, and the HDoH got their information from the hospital

    OR

    A form was filled out and either mailed, delivered in person, or the information of the birth was phoned in to the HDoH.

    THAT is how the newspaper announcements got in to the papers.

    And I DON’T get paid to know this stuff. The media does get paid, but yet instead of INFORMING us, they want to INDOCTRINTE us.

  21. Interested Bystander

    Air Force Brat!,

    I believe Boehner was BROKEN back a year ago May when he CAVED on the debt ceiling.

    I think that was in 2011.

  22. Interested Bystander

    When does the spending cut debate take place?

    I thought something had to be done by the end of Feb?

    Why no updates?

    Can you say “kick the can down the road”??

    Sure you can.

  23. IB
    Boehner….is sold out!….plain and simple..

  24. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/04/cbs-news-video-child-in-hawaii-had.html?showComment=1335631615301#c4342309294843748925

    ladysforest:

    “There used to be an archive maintained by the newspapers that was available to the public. That was “closed” to the public around the same time as the announcements were “discovered”.”
    ==============
    Shawn Glasco:

    “Are Obama’s 1961 Birth Announcements Fake?”

    Starfelt’s credibility, and thus the credibility of the Advertiser birth announcement, immediately comes into question. Did Starfelt make up the story about births being posted at the end of the week by the Advertiser, or was she misinformed by the Advertiser, the Hawaii Department of Vital Records, or both? There is another confusing detail. The Nordyke twins were born on Saturday, August 5, 1961, in the same hospital Obama was reported to be born in, but their birth announcement appears in the Wednesday, August 16 Advertiser.

    At about the same time as Starfelt’s July 2008 posting, a blogger named “Infidel Granny” posted the same birth announcement image on an AtlasShrugs blog. Infidel Granny claimed to have received her copy in an e-mail from the same nameless research librarian who helped Starfelt from the Hawaii State Library. Infidel Granny briefly resurfaced in 2009 in an AtlasShrugs blog, where she opined, “I sure hope you don’t think I had anything to do with a forgery.”

    The origin of the second birth announcement is even more murky. The best evidence (hat tip: Butterdezillion) is that sometime around August 13, 2008, a Honolulu resident named “Koa” posted the August 14, 1961 Honolulu Star-Bulletin birth announcement on TexasDarlin apparently after she found it herself in the Hawaii State Library. …”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/are_obamas_1961_newspaper_birth_announcements_fake.html
    ==============
    http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2012/10/24/trump-to-obama-pretty-please/#comment-7768

    ladysforest:

    “The material that I collected proved that the images first shown to the world could NOT have originated from the sources/films claimed. Also proved that “Koa” lied about finding their copy in person at the Honolulu State library. BZ’s research detailed how Starfelts and several others, claims about where their copies were sourced from were garbage.”

  25. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I find this very interesting:

    http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0E%2C*PL%5B%3D%23P%20%20

    It’s how much members of Congress make, and their “allowances”.

    It’s unbelieveable to me how much each member of Congress are allowed to spend.

    And spend they do.

    It’s what they do best, ya know.

    Spend I mean.

    Kind of addictive.

    Hard habit to kick.

  26. Give us another link, IB The one you gave connected me to gobledegook. Perhaps it’s me.

  27. Interested Bystander

    Sorry SueQ,

    The title of the report is

    Congressional Salaries and Allowances.

    It is dated January 15, 2013

    I’ll try the link again:

    http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0E%2C*PL%5B%3D%23P%20%20

    11 pages and pretty easy to read.

    If the link doesn’t work, maybe you could search the title.

  28. Just heard Judge Napolitano on Bret Baier Report, and he heartily endorsed and agreed with the plan to put women on the front lines of the military. (That is his full libertarian view coming into play, imho.) Of course, all libertarians would not agree.

  29. On the above matter, I fully DISAGREE with the judge.

  30. http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/number-nations-sheriffs-refusing-enforce-unconstitutional-gun-laws

    Utah Sheriffs declare war on Federal gun grabbers. Red v. Blue. I am betting on Red.

  31. Since barky thinks he’s God, anyway, here’s proof that he is indeed the Lord (of the Flies):

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9825687/Barack-Obama-provides-landing-pad-for-fly.html

    How many flies have landed on this pile of cr*p over the last few years? They know their own.

    The comments below the article are great!

  32. SueK….That was good. While at that site, I saw another where George W. was on Jay Leno (must have missed that show at the time) and it was pretty funny. I did like all the comments below O’s fly episodes. Too funny. Thanks!

  33. SueK, enjoy.

    Obama Draws Flies

  34. SueK | January 24, 2013 at 7:49 pm |

    “How many flies have landed on this pile of cr@p over the last few years? They know their own.”
    ******************
    SueK,
    Flies are naturally drawn to $hit, that is where they lay there eggs.

  35. Hi Thistle and Bob,

    Yup, old barky is the host and the flies use him to spawn; I *knew* there had to be a reason why he was on this planet.

    Can we call him ‘Fly Daddy’ now?

    (BTW, I’m using the ‘ridicule’ tactic..the Alinskyites would approve)

  36. SueK | January 24, 2013 at 10:40 pm |

    Hi Thistle and Bob,

    Yup, old barky is the host and the flies use him to spawn; I *knew* there had to be a reason why he was on this planet.

    Can we call him ‘Fly Daddy’ now?

    (BTW, I’m using the ‘ridicule’ tactic..the Alinskyites would approve)
    **************************
    Turnabout is fair play.

  37. Of course we all knew that Soetoro is full of shi#. Today the flies flying around his head CONFIRMED that he has SHI# for brains,otherwise the flies would have gone elsewhere. They go where they SMELL CRAP.I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. I really got my HAR DE HARS on that one. So far as I know he is the FIRST US President to DRAW FLIES,and they don’t LIE.

  38. Limbaugh Unloads On Hillary Clinton’s ‘Bullsh*t’ Testimony

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/limbaugh-unloads-on-hillary-clintons-bullsht-testimony/

  39. ……..I nearly forgot Hell Bawney Fwank had the same problem. They all have the same problems. It only makes sense that A$$HOLE friends would be emitting an A$$HOLE SMELL. Most of the time the flies land where the strongest odor is coming from. Perhaps Soetoro had just came from having played a game of DROP THE SOAP WITH ONE OF HIS GOONS.
    Flies also like stinky bodies, and decaying matter. Maybe Soetoro had a bad case of “STINKY DINKY”,and the flies were really just trying to find the source of the stink.

  40. “Any man who thinks he can be happy and Prosperous by letting the US Government Officials take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian.” Henry Ford

  41. TOP-11 “ONLY IN AMERICA ” OBSERVATIONS — BY A CANADIAN

    1) Only in America could the rich people -who pay 86% of all income taxes – be accused of not paying their “fair share” by people who don’t pay any income taxes at all.

    2) Only in America could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when they have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black while only 12% of the population is black

    3) Only in America could they have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

    4) Only in America can they have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

    5) Only in America would they make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just ‘magically’ become American citizens.

    6) Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country’s Constitution be thought of as “extremists.”

    7) Only in America could you need to present a driver’s license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

    8) Only in America could people demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity invested in a major U.S. oil company ( Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike).

    9) Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a Trillion dollars more than it has per year – for total spending of $7-Million PER MINUTE, and complain that it doesn’t have nearly enough money.

    10) Only in America could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000.00 a plate campaign fund-raising event.

    11) Only in America can a man with no background, no qualifications and no experience … and a complete failure at his job … be reelected.

  42. Bob Strauss……………..
    Absolutely loved the 11 observations. Could America be headed South in a hand basket?

  43. ………or are Americans just STRANGE.?

  44. >>Bob Strauss
    “Any man who thinks he can be happy and Prosperous by letting the US Government Officials take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian.” Henry Ford<<<

    ROFLOL!!! That is a great line, especially in these times.

    Pete

  45. Good morning CW et al.,

    What is it that the Republican Party doesn’t get? Why do they keep acting like morons with their ridiculous public lashing out at our own party values? Another out of the closet moron such as Bobby Jindal whom wishes to move further to the left as a solution! I believe Rush Limbaugh summed it up fairly well pertaining to the Clinton hearings. Even the Republicans circled the wagons around Hillary to protect her, only to get photo ops with here hugging and playing kissy kissy after words. How pathetic. Rand Paul was the only one that asked a relative question, only for Boxer to storm out of the room.

  46. Good morning William, et al.

  47. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    11. Only in America can we find a supposedly smart Republican endorse a non – Natural Born Citizen to be the nominee for the 2016 Presidential election.

    http://theadvocate.com/home/4894578-125/rove-jindal-building-case-for

  48. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Sorry – 12

  49. William …………
    Would you expect anything else from MMMSSSSSSSSSS.BOXER? She is the local California NITWIT. Not even really very “IIIMMMMMPOOOOOORTANT” EITHER,even though she thinks she is “SUPEEEERRRRIOR to” everybody on earth. The reality is she is a little more than a NUMBSKULL.

  50. I,m thinking about sending a can of RAID to the WH. When the weather outdoors is very cold and there are still flies in the WH,something serious is wrong. Especially when there is such a large number of them that they are visible on TV. Then Soetoro says to somebody off screen “They’re bothering me. Maybe he shoud assign a couple of the secret service people to shoot them down. Might give them something challenging to do other than stand around and pick their noses. Or better still have MMSSSSSSSSSSSS.Feinstein BAN FLIES FROM THE WHITEHOUSE.

  51. Boy it must be quite an honor to be the only American POTUS to attract flies……..what a legacy! That should go into the history books.

  52. General James Mattis: “Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they’re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact.”

    Obama has fired this great American because he ordered his soldiers not to fire on US citizens.

  53. Air Force Brat!

    Re “Stinky” and the flies — I’ve always been told that Muslims (the males, anyway) and bathing aren’t particularly well acquainted. Maybe that’s why the flies are flocking to him in droves.

  54. Bob Strauss………….

    Here is a tiny consolation Bob, the more honorable people that Soetoro fires the greater are his chances of being PHYSICALLY REMOVED FROM THE WH by a cooperating group of those who were probably illegally fired, along with hundreds of thousands of supporters………all of whom might be armed to the teeth. It could happen,and possibly a lot sooner than many even suspect. When these senior officers get enough of the BS which might have finally shown itself in women being put in combatant roles. The HOMOSEXUALS in the WH havn’t the slightest idea what combat really entails,but sadly the DIZZIES who think that they can fight men on the battlefields are ALL going to be found lying in pools of their own blood,and just a little further on there will be a like number of our combatant soldiers lying dead because the females were supposed to cover their rear,and discovered that they couldn’t even defend themselves. There will now be mass departures from the military services of the best trained soldiers.All the military will have left will be a bunch of dizzy females who think that they know how to fight an enemy along with a pack of MORONS who don’t know the muzzle of a rifle from it’s butt. This is the worst defeat in the history of America waiting to happen. And it will….sooner or later.

  55. Court: Obama appointments are unconstitutional

    Published January 25, 2013

    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON – A federal appeals court has ruled that President Obama violated the Constitution when he bypassed the Senate to fill vacancies on a labor relations panel.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit says Obama did not have the power to make recess appointments earlier this year to the National Labor Relations Board.

    Obama claims he acted properly because the Senate was away for the holidays. But the court says the Senate technically stayed in session when lawmakers gaveled in and out every few days for so-called “pro forma” sessions.

    GOP lawmakers used the tactic specifically to prevent Obama from using his recess power to fill vacancies in an agency they claimed was too pro-union.

    The Obama administration is expected to appeal the decision to the Supreme Court.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/25/court-obama-appointments-are-unconstitutional/?test=latestnews#ixzz2J0KuLrmM

  56. You have heard that old saying…”you’re full of sh*t” :)

  57. Court: Obama appointments are unconstitutional

    VIDEO on FOX News at 10:54 am ET

  58. This is the first thing I thought of when Obama was attracting flies.

    “Is Obama biblical ‘Lord of the Flies’?”

    “Already, religious and other websites are using the headlines to point out that a biblical reference for Satan, the Semitic deity Beelzebub, literally translates from Hebrew into “Lord of the Flies.”

    As Obama nominated two new members of his second administration yesterday, a swarming fly stole the show.

    “This guy is bothering me here,” said Obama, who repeatedly swatted at a large black fly buzzing near his face.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/is-obama-biblical-lord-of-the-flies/#msXzOGJB9Ao2To93.99

  59. CW,
    Your explanation sounds the most plausible. After all, this phenomenon has been happening off and on ever since he took office. Spiritual forces at work, I say. Isn’t it interesting that there is nothing the Secret Service can do about it?
    Earlier, when this first began happening, I read somewhere that cocaine users can draw flies. Does anyone know if this is true?

  60. Cocaine users will sink to the necessary level to perpetuate their continued use.
    This can include neglect of hygiene & therefore attract flies.

  61. “Flies attracted to negative emotions”

    “When I awoke… My room, which had the door closed…

    Was filled with flies…

    There was no food I could have missed I’m in a new place, the room was empty almost… and recently cleaned intensely by staff… AC was on, no open windows…

    and my room was filled with flies… following a tremenous release I made of some very real negative energy that had built up within me…

    Now… I described this to a friend of mine, a close friend who also meditates and explained what I had done…
    a few weeks later (yesterday) I get a call… He had the exact same experience I did, woke up from the trance… room was filled with flies…

    Now I am not talking in my experience about…2 or 3 flies, I’m talking about… dozens of Flies… more than I have ever seen in a room in my life…

    I know that flies are connected to Evil… , Haunting are often reported to involve flies… so on and so on… ”

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread383474/pg1

  62. CW,

    Remember this scene from The Amityville Horror when Father Delaney tries to bless the house then….the flies! Pure evil…just like the Messiah:

    http://movieclips.com/yUaQ-the-amityville-horror-movie-flies-attack-father-delaney/

  63. Remember when there was a large tarp covering the white house? Did anyone find out why? Maybe he fumigated the flies and they are back to get their revenge and all the kings doctors could not save him!! hehehehe

  64. An article that is about a month old by Reza Kahlili from WND:

    There are some 50 Iranian terrorist cells located in the US……… waiting for the go ahead.

    “The source said the planned attacks could be greater than what happened on 9/11 and that in the last phase of the attack, al-Qaida operatives will also be involved………………….

    Iranian officials also see the possible overthrow of Syrian President Bashar Assad as a red line, and with the looming confrontation over their nuclear program, they have taken several measures, one of which is to retaliate against Israel through several fronts and in coordination with their proxies, such as Hezbollah. As reported in WND, 170 ballistic missiles have been pre-targeted on Tel Aviv alone, some with biological warheads. And an attack on America from within would create economic havoc on the fragile U.S. economy.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/next-911-irans-death-squad-is-here/#oo6OkvTUzQ2eqlLK.99

  65. Wells and All,

    Regards flies and the “buzz” about barry’s encounter, don’t forget the presence of RATS on the platform at our white house when he made that speech awhile back.

    Rats, flies…………………..yep, read the writing on the wall or in this case The Good Book and behold what is occupying 1600 Pennsy Ave………….

  66. CabbyAZ……….
    Re; Attraction of flies. I will happily tell you what I personally think the attraction is. I personally think that Soetoro has a systemic infection which is escalating. There is flesh within his body which is beginning a very slow degeneration. Excessive stress speeds up the onset of full blown aids.The stench of dying tissue inside of him is OOZING from his PORES everytime he sweats. Need I say….. HIV POSITIVE,which is slowly turning into FULL BLOWN AIDS. The flies are the TATTLETALES. His well known lifestyle history lends strength to this notion. Further I believe that there are people inside the DNC,as well as the WH who know the truth also but are unwilling to make his actual condition public information.

  67. Ginger…………
    If the WH wants to get rid of the flies and rats,they only need to move Soetoro out. The flies will follow him. As I stated earlier the flies are the tattletales. I personally believe that the stench of dying flesh inside of him oozes from his pores each time he sweats. This is a KNOWN characteristic of the onset of AIDS.

  68. I have read that in Liberace’s last days the odor coming from him nearly gagged those who were trying to help him.

  69. “Mark Levin Rips Druggie Obama; Background Checks For All Elected Officials”
    ———–
    Comment by JohnDoeSr.:

    “Be nice to hear Levin apologize to the birthers…..don’t think it’s gonna happen though.

    I hope he and the other Conservative talking heads who are protecting Obama are bothered by ignoring the biggest story of massive fraud, usurpation and identity theft ever….but I doubt they are.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/video-mark-levin-rips-druggie-obama.html
    ———–
    “Mark Levin: Obama Background Check Rant – 1/25/2013″

  70. oldsailor80 | January 26, 2013 at 12:21 am |
    Thanks, oldsailor, for your input on why flies are attracted to Soetoro. You are absolutely right about body odor possibilities resulting from HIV. I googled the subject and found medical info confirming such. Yes, sweat can cause the odor to be exuded. This man could be seriously ill, and his supporters would not want this to be known. Nobody is going to report it if it were true.

  71. Old Sailor 80–How brilliant an insight is that about why flies are attracted to buma. He has been gay since childhood— long before we were as aware of aid as we are today. His medical records along with all else were also sealed. He has lost a lot of weight over the past few years. Photos of him without his 40 pounds of make up show an emaciated looking guy. That is why I have long suspected they have a Sotoero double. One day he looks worse than what the cat dragged in. The next day he exudes great health.

  72. usapatroits-shout1

    I feel the same way that there is two Soetoros. There is a difference in his ears, his mole is larger and darker at times, slight difference in his teeth, and most of all his forehead on the sides above his outer eyes is at times it bulges.

    Most of all watch his daughters! I have noticed they are backoffish (is that a word?) :) They do not hug him and when he kisses them they do not let him kiss them on the lips! Moose she does the same thing except here lately she seems to cling to the younger Barry. Watch their body language. I have been wondering why he has been using the ‘auto pen’ a lot lately. Way back when he started running for president I read some where that there was twins and the other one died in a plane wreck in kenya!

    Did any one notice the expressions on the girls faces when he was getting sworn in by the TRAITOR Roberts? I saw no pride they kept looking away but…..Moose was smiling from ear to ear.

  73. oldsailor80

    You told us a long time ago that Barry has aids. Thank you for explaining the aids. He has the best doctors to treat him at our expense. Do you think the reason why he acted so out of it with Romney at the debate is because he was given to much aids medicine or just plain high?

  74. Recently I had to purchase a new homeowners insurance policy, and I was asked a series of questions including “Do you have a fire place or a wood stove? Do you own a dog? If so what kind?” Turns out I have a wood stove and a specific breed of dog (not pit bull) which puts me into a higher insurance rate. I had never been asked these questions in the past. But I began wondering if gun ownership could also be used in the future as an excuse to bump up insurance rates. Well SHAZAM! I did some research and found out It’s already been proposed in states like Massechusetts. Just another tactic to put a squeeze on us.

  75. Apparently there are still a lot of people in Egypt who hate the “Brotherhood” and what the new regime there is doing to them:

    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/update-least-nine-deaths-reported-armed-forces-deployed-suez

  76. GOP lawmaker: Make budget deficits an impeachable offense

    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/279423-gop-lawmaker-make-budget-deficits-an-impeachable-offense#ixzz2J5r2dU7D
    Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

    Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) this week proposed a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution that would make the president’s failure to enforce that amendment an impeachable offense.

    His Protecting America’s Solvency Act, H.R. 371, would let the debt ceiling rise by $1 trillion after congressional passage of the balanced-budget amendment. The ceiling could rise another $1 trillion after states ratify it.

    The bill says the amendment must require federal spending not to exceed the revenue it collects, a goal it must meet after five years. But it does allow Congress to suspend this limit with a four-fifths majority vote, or by a simple majority during wartime.

    If a budget deficit occurred for any other reason, the president would have to take “such steps as are necessary” to avoid it. Failure would leave him open to impeachment.

    “The President may not order any increase in taxes or other revenue measures to enforce the Amendment,” the bill reads. “A President’s failure to prevent a prohibited fiscal year deficit is an impeachable offense.”

  77. Good video…..the corrupting fruits of power in D.C…….where the business is not about politics, it’s about money/your money making them rich! The unreported story of a town awash with money.

    http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-tv

  78. “Home Intruders Mess With Wrong Guy…”

    “Home intruders decide not to stick around after seeing their ‘victim’ holding an AR-15!!”

    [video at link]

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/home-intruders-mess-with-wrong-guy/

  79. If you have ever driven down a back road in the country you will remember seeing from time to time a road kill of one of the area native animals who was unfortunately at the wrong place at the wrong time,and paid the supreme penalty for having done so. If the road kill was a bot a week old when you came upon it you probably was met by a virtual wall of odor being produced by the carcass. I have had the occasion to smell the death odor of both animals as well as human. Let me tell you here an now the stench of death generated by human decomposition is by far the most obnoxious,and revulsive. All of that said,the same odor is generated within the body where the disease is slowly killing the flesh. The AIDS virus takes no exception,and it often begins it’s degenerating attack upon the lower internal components such as the BOWEL,and slowly moves upward,leaving dying tissue in it’s wake. The virus circulates throughout the system along with the poisons,and the high white count which the AIDS virus generates. The white blood cells generate much of the odor because it is the white blood cells that are fighting the infection. Being in the bloodstream carries the the products of dying tissue with it,and when the victim sweats this odor is released into the sweat. I have read some reviews written by medical doctors who of course have a far better understanding of the ravages of AIDS,but I have the ability to understand plain english, and PLAIN ENGLISH TELLS ME WHAT AIDS IS ABOUT,and how it effects the human body at various points along it’s progression. In addition I have read that various drugs that are being used to fight the effects of AIDS often do produce what appears to be either mishapen,discolored, or sometimes enlarged areas of the body, making the person look like someone else. This was extremely visible with Rock Hudson. I saw pictures of him that were taken only a couple of months prior to his death,and he was horribly mishapen,and discolored. When that photograph was placed alongside of one taken in his early film career the transfiguration was horrible to behold. God makes it very clear as to what sort of parctices are acceptable to him……..HOMOSEXUALITY is NOT ONE OF THEM,and he makes this known to all by DRAWING US A PICTURE, which carries the odor of death as well.

  80. With this new allowance for women fighting on the front lines a question that doesn’t seem to matter to the “decision makers” is what about the other life present in those women who are pregnant, some without even knowing it perhaps at the time? Where is the consideration of that other separate life, with its own Constitutional right of life being protected, being placed in an obvious danger outside of what should be a time of its rightful protective surroundings? Where is the say from the free will of that other vulnerable individual that is, against its necessary needs of the moment, being disregarded without any thought for it? Where is the consideration that this “inconvenience” of children in question will be another rationale for aborting these children, adding to the already horrendous disregard for the lives of so many other human beings that fall victim to the decisions and disregard by those elitists in power over them? And where is the consideration of such an environment of stress, emotions, that play with human nature itself for “outlets” becoming just the setting for causing such victims in the womb….as so many other settings in military life these days with the daily forced close and closed in proximity of men and women (and their natural differences) fly in the face of the natural law?

  81. TYPO………parctices=NO practices=YES APOLOGISE.

  82. Observer………
    First off I have to say that any military organisation who sent a PREGNANT woman to the battlezone,would be the worst BASTARDS on earth. If a woman becomes pregnant while serving in a battlezone it will be the result of her own misjudgement. You see this is EXACTLY WHAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE,AND FOUGHT AN ENEMY ALREADY KNOW………..THEY CANNOT EFFECTIVELY FIGHT AN ENEMY WHILE STUMBLING OVER BREEDING FEMALES. THE WORD “COHESION”IS THE DEFINITION OF THE GLUE WHICH HOLDS A FIGHTING FORCE TOGETHER. WITHOUT COHESION YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN EFFECTIVE FIGHTING FORCE. WITH PARTICULAR EMPHASIS UPON INFANTRYMEN. As I have said in the past the bodies of the female soldiers will be the first found,then a little further on will lay the bodies of the infantrymen whose REAR the female soldiers were supposed to cover.

  83. Observer………….
    I was an infantryman prior to my Navy hitch. I was taught by TWO WW2 infantrymen who landed at Normandy then walked nearly all the way to the Rhine carrying an M1 rifle,a BAR,or in the case of a (non com ) a .30 caliber M1 Carbine,and lived to tell us Indiana National Guardsmen about it. These guys were our DIs. At the same time these EXPERIENCED people were teaching us how to handle our rifles. Then we were taught about battlefield “COHESION”, what it is,and why it is essential. You become a BAND OF BROTHERS, almost BLOOD brothers. No I never was in any engagements with the enemy, but during my Navy hitch I like to think that while we were serving in a war zone picking downed pilots out of the Sea of Japan our function was every bit as important as fighting the enemy with a rifle. Most people have no idea what happens to a pilot who suddenly finds himself in 38 degree water, without any thermal protection. Again I was only an assistant in the pilot recovery efforts,but even the ASSISTANT has certain functions to carryout if the recovery is to be successful. I also proudly say that I was trained by the NAVY UDT. You might also want to know that the (then ) UDT was the mother of the Navy Seals of today.

  84. ……….and I cannot salute our Navy Seals enough. I hasten to add that I am a simple person, and I don’t look for any rewards for having been in our military. What I done was because I felt the calling,and that it is expected if you are a citizen of America. But please ……..KEEP OUR FEMALES AT HOME WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

  85. SueQ-Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the buma double. I don’t feel like I am so over the top. Regarding guns. The less you tell insurance companies and report anything the better off you are. Insurance companies are no longer interested to serving you. The best guns to purchase are antiique guns that you do not have to register but will still protect in an emergency! Any gun you purchase that must first have a background check only red flags the government who has guns and what dook to knock on. These times are so dangerous, we must learn to go under ground in all our actions –even growing a vegetable garden. Never tell any one but your partner youo have those guns.

  86. There are thousands of young women who every year join the Navy because they have a warped notion that they are going to spend 4 years aboard a CRUISE LINER visiting all the wonderful ports in the world. Well I have a little shocking news for these misguided females. They will visit parts of the world that they have never seen before but it will be aboard a W-A-R-S-H-I-P,…….NOT A CRUISE LINER. As such a warship is prone to attack from an enemy,and as a result there could be a level of carnage both right and left, that they cannot stomach,and if these females think that this will NEVER happen they might want to think a second time before they sign on the dotted line, because it is inevitable that sooner or later one of our carriers,is going to take one hell of a hit. We see the LUNATICS in North Korea now threatening to attack any US ship which enters the Sea of Japan. It is also inevitable that sooner or later some FOAMING AT THE MOUTH NORTH KOREAN will light the fuse. If that happens there are going to be a hell of a lot of dead sailors,both male and female, whose bodies will most likely be floating around on the surface of the sea, after the remains of the carrier,and it’s crew have arrived at the bottom of the ocean. Sooner or later this IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I also wonder if it will happen on Soetoro’s watch. Then we will get to see his TRUE COLORS,that is if we can FIND HIM.

  87. usapatriots-shout……….
    Keeping your firearms a secret has ALWAYS been tatamount to winning against any sort of intruder. Declaring your weapons on an insurance inventory sheet is in reality the FIRST MISTAKE,and as a result probably the ONLY mistake that you will make. The insurance industry will be under federal mandate to report all firearms that they cover to the Federal government as well,after which you will not get a second chance to keep your firearm out of the hands of MMSSSSSSSSS.FEINSTEIN,whose mind is also twisted,and warped by her homosexual behavior. She even PROUDLY flaunts her TWISTED MENTALITY UPON OTHERS. I personally feel revulsion everytime I look at that mentally warped sicko. She is HARDLY the person who should be allowed to legislate against innocent people. She is a MORON of the FIRST MAGNITUDE. MMSSSSSSSS.BOXER runs her a close second.

  88. I agree usapatriots-shoutl @11:39,

    You are not OTT! As a Christian, I struggle with direct questions such as those from the insurance co. as to answering “yes or no”, or to evade. I answered truthfully and it cost me.That’s OK. But I wonder if there comes a point when you have to “lie”? I hear of pediatricians asking young children if there are guns in the home. I hear of teachers asking students if either of their parents own guns. It has become bizarre! Like the old USSR. There were a few occasions in the OT when a lie was told for self preservation,(unlike the Moslems who believe that lying is a virtue), so I have to work this out in my own conscious. If anyone else has wisdom on this matter….. I’m all ears.

  89. The tragic shooting at Newtown was only the FINAL,and VERY CLEAR EVIDENCE that a mother who thought that giving her mentally disturbed CHILD, lethal weapons was a way of communicating with him, while she hunted for a place to institutionalise him. I have to say it……..she was a complete idiot,and in all probability it was she who should have used simple logic,but failed to even consider what the outcome might be. Well she paid the supreme price,and now the NITWIT POLITICIANS are going to try very hard to take away EVERYONE’S WEAPONS, MAYBE EVEN OUR CHILDRENS POP GUNS. We are looking at a CRAZED political heirarchy who are going to exploit arms,and ammunition confiscation,as far as they possibly can. I believe that we are already past the point of no return, it is entirely possible that very soon you will be forced to use your weapons for the purpose of preserving your Constitutional rights. I believe that such an uprising is now INEVITABLE, and it is only a question of when.

  90. oldsailor,

    Have you ever considered………………. if Newtown was a false flag operation……….. that the mother would have to be taken out? She would be a witness. Just a thought. Not saying it happened that way but so much of that episode doesn’t sit right.

  91. John in Illinois

    WASHINGTON The hacker-activist group Anonymous says it hijacked the website of the U.S. Sentencing Commission to avenge the death of Aaron Swartz, an Internet activist who committed suicide. They released a manifeso of sorts …
    The message read in part:

    Citizens of the world,
    Anonymous has observed for some time now the trajectory of justice in the United States with growing concern. We have marked the departure of this system from the noble ideals in which it was born and enshrined. We have seen the erosion of due process, the dilution of constitutional rights, the usurpation of the rightful authority of courts by the “discretion” or prosecutors. We have seen how the law is wielded less and less to uphold justice, and more and more to exercise control, authority and power in the interests of oppression or personal gain.”
    The hackers say they’ve infiltrated several government computer systems and copied secret information that they now threaten to make public

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they really had some GOOD stuff? And if they did WHO would they release it to?

  92. SueQ
    Ever heard of the movie “wag the dog”?
    My grandfather had a favorite reply to obviously flawed theory….”I only know what I read in the newspapers”…kind of an ‘in your face’ statement without really saying anything directly.
    He was a wise old man, and knew of this kind of thing from way back.

  93. Thanks cwv2. Oddly, my grandfather said the same thing.

  94. John in Illinois
    Wouldn’t it be nice if they really had some GOOD stuff? And if they did WHO would they release it to?……
    …..The same people that Sheriff Joe Arpaio released his info to…..

  95. SueQ
    My grandfather was born in 1886…..He saw a lot in his lifetime, and I learned a lot from him. He died while I was servnig in Cambodia/VietNam/Laos (CCS) in 1967.

  96. Air Force Brat!

    Sue! @12:25 p.m. — as always, you bring up an excellent point. I think it’s going to be a matter of conscience, and will remain between the person and his or her God. On Judgment Day, we will not answer to Pope Benedict XVI, Billy Graham, Joe Blow,Professor HushPuppies, or some friend or relative who has “studied Scriptures”. Nope, we will answer to God.

    Consider Masada. When it became clear that Roman victory was inevitable, every last person there committed suicide rather than be captured, enslaved, raped, tortured, and killed. Theologians have declared for centuries (and it has become a dogma of most religions) that suicide is “the unforgiveable sin”. However, that concept as stated is NOT found in the Bible — no matter what theologians, scholars, and religious leaders say.

  97. Air Force Brat!

    Ack! Of course you all know I mean “SueQ”. Sorry about that!

  98. Sue Q,
    Nice to see someone who tries to always be honest and tell the truth. I am like that too. You asked for any “wisdom” on this matter. I don’t know if I have THAT, but something to think about maybe,

    A few of us Christians were talking about the ten Commnadments, and whether we thought it woulld EVER be acceptable to God to beak any of them under certain circumstances. That got one of us to talking about the difference perhaps between the “letter of the law”, and the “spirit of the law” and gave this example:

    Suppose you were standing at your front door one morning and a young girl came running up to you, with her clothes torn and she was bleeding…she said her father was chasing her and could she please hide in your house.?..so you let her. A few minutes later, you see a very angry mad come running up the street with a liquor bottle and asks you if you’ve seen his daughter. Would you follow the “letter of the law” and say “yes, she’s in here. Or, would you lie and say..”yea, I saw her, she ran THAT way”, and point up the street?

    What about “honor thy Father and thy Mother” Are children supposed to honor and obey parents who are not at all honorable? Suppose they want to prostitute their children for drug money. Honor and Obey?

    I suppose there are arguments both ways, perhaps God WOULD want us to follow the “letter of His Laws”,,telling the angry father “Yes, she’s here but you will have to come through me to get to her”..and thereby allowing God to work through you to defuse the situation, and perhaps the same with he dishonorable parents, like Isaac’s son who was going to allow himself to be sacrificed. Maybe we ARE supposed to do exactly as God tells us, and turn the “consequences” over to Him.

    So, hmmmm, I started OUT with the notion of maybe getting you to look at the possibility of maybe it IS okay to lie under some circumstances, and ended up having to think…maybe it’s NOT okay. Helps a lot huh? But, I am going to post it anyway….to give BOTH sides of the issue something to think about.

  99. Okay, in reading over my above comment, I first want to apologize for the typos……and then I noticed that comparing Isaac’s son to a child who;s parents want them to prostitute themselves is not a legitimate comparison….Isaac was a man of God and his son was honoring and obeying a man of God….so, that still leaves the question….DOES God expext us to “honor” and obey parents who are far from honorable….or would He expect us to break that Commandment?

  100. I’m going to switch back to my “spirit if the law” viewpont perhaps again in saying that the “commandment” is “Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor”. I don’t see where telling an insurance adjuster (or someone else) that you don’t own a gun when you DO is “bearing false witness against your neighbor”.

  101. Coldwarvet…………..
    That was and still is sheriff Arpiao’s problem. Who do you show it all to,when all of the courts are already subverted. I hasten to say that as long as NOBODY HAS THE GOLF BALLS TO ACT Soetoro will end up becoming EMPORER SOETORO. Everybody seems to have the notion….”so what just don’t interfere with my next line of cocaine to snort,or take away my FEDERAL FREEBIES. Now I can lay around do nothing,and enjoy the fruits of everybody elses labor.” Just like my French counterparts. They spend all day at the beach on the French Riviera at the expense of French taxpayers. If you can’t fight them………..join them.

  102. oldsailor80 | January 26, 2013 at 10:59 am | Observer………
    First off I have to say that any military organisation who sent a PREGNANT woman to the battlezone,would be the worst BASTARDS on earth.
    =============================
    The pregnancy isn’t something necesarily known or reported prior to deployment nor may it even exist at that time but after!! And yet, merely for the latest PC image, they set up the very conditions where if a woman who wants such a “pioneering” position in this new military will do anything not to be denied….like abort in order to move ahead. We’re seeing reports of increasing abortions that occur just because of such conditions of prolonged close and closed quarters for long tours on surface ships and submarines. There will have to be some unspoken agreement for mandatory birth control which in itself also acts as an abortifacient….and to follow, if all the progressives have their way will be the draft for all females. Those with common sense no longer have a say.

    http://www.cmrlink.org/content/ships-and-submarines/35896/navy_ignores_warnings_of_health_issues_for_women_on_submarines

    •The primary mission of the SSBN force is the strategic defense of the U.S., it is not realistic to think that the integration of men and women at the height of their reproductive lives can be structured in a way that is conducive to good order and discipline while serving together in the forced intimacy of a submarine.

    •Pregnancy is incompatible with submarine duty due to the uniqueness of the submarine environment and the operational mission(s) of the submarine (SSBN/SSN) Once a woman becomes pregnant she is lost to the command for 20 months. Vacancies on submarines would have disproportionate impact on other crewmembers.

    •When young men and women live together in close quarters, sexual and romantic relationships inevitably ensue. Personnel complications would be worse on submarines.

    •Abnormal pregnancy complications, such as ruptured ectopic pregnancy and hemorrhagic spontaneous abortion, require emergency surgery and blood replacement which are not available aboard a submarine. Due to the operational nature of the submarine mission, timely emergency mid-ocean evacuations would be unlikely. Surgery under such conditions could result in loss of reproductive capability.

    …….1. Given the extremely low retention rates of female nuclear trained female surface officers, how can the Navy justify habitability intrusions and compromises to accommodate female sailors on all types of submarines? (Normal career paths include smaller subs as well as larger ones.)

    2. Given what is known about current non-deployment rates due to pregnancy among enlisted women as well as officers, what is the Navy’s estimate of comparable non-deployment rates of female officers and enlisted women on submarines? (Extensive programs to discourage Navy pregnancies have failed. According to Navy Times, rates have increased.)

    3. How many mid-ocean evacuations are expected to occur on an annual basis and how will these evacuations be accomplished in remote areas; i.e., under the Polar icecap?

    4. If a submarine CO is faced with the operational necessity to continue an undersea mission, despite high risks of birth defects for a newly-discovered embryonic “passenger,” what does the Navy expect the skipper to do?

    5. How many women are likely to permanently lose reproductive capability due to botched undersea surgeries or worse—how many are expected to die due to hemorrhage in conditions offering no options for immediate evacuation?

    6. What is being done to inform women of health risks to themselves and to future offspring in the embryonic stage of development?

    Despite Dr. Scott’s warnings and the Navy’s own previous reports, not a single member of Congress responded to the questions.

  103. Thank you AFB and Sharon,

    I have taken to heart what you’ve said and I think you make very good points. I don’t believe suicide is the “unforvibable” sin……. never did, but that is a whole other discussion. And when you put it in the context of “bearing false witness against your neighbor”, it makes me realize that not declaring the fact that you own guns is a whole different issue. Abraham, at one point declared that Sarah, his wife, was actually his sister. It was not so, but it was for the purpose of self preservation.

    We each have to decide. As AFB says, it is a matter between you and God.

  104. SueQ, Sharon and AFB,
    I’m just now getting to read here and have something that may add to the discussion. Personally I hate lying and always seek to be truthful. We should always try to do that, and truth-telling covers so-called little white lies and even exaggeration; HOWEVER, in the Bible – book of Joshua, chptr 2, we read the story of the harlot, Rahab, who hid the spies that Joshua sent out to secretly spy out the promised land. She lied to protect the spies when the king of Jericho asked her about them. Guess what? She is listed in the book of Hebrews, chptr 11:31, which is the “hall of faith” chapter. “By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she received the spies with peace.”

    Could we conclude that it is the motive which counts? If we lie to impress others, to brag, to deceive for nefarious purposes, then that is wrong. But if we do it to save lives or something equally worthy, then I believe there is biblical support for that.

    As SueQ says, “We each have to decide. As AFB says, it is a matter between you and God.” I believe that, too, and also that we are going to be called upon to make those decisions now and in the future more than ever before.

    I’ve noticed that Jesus often asked a question or said something rather vague when someone sought an answer from Him. He also told His disciples not to worry about what they would say when brought before rulers, because God would give them the words to say at that time. That gives me peace and assurance.

  105. Thank you Cabby,

    I had forgotten the example of Rahab. It’s a shame that “we are going to be called upon to make those decisions now and in the future more than ever before.” This shouldn’t be. Welcome to Obama’s Amerika.

  106. Howdy! This article couldn’t be written much better! Going through this article reminds me of my previous roommate! He always kept talking about this. I am going to send this article to him. Fairly certain he’ll have a great read.

    I appreciate you for sharing!

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