Obamacare Healthcare.gov status press conference, December 1, 2013, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, CMS, Federal healthcare exchange website, Making chicken salad out of chicken manure

Obamacare Healthcare.gov status press conference, December 1, 2013, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, CMS, Federal healthcare exchange website, Making chicken salad out of chicken manure

“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”…Barack Obama

“millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.”…NBC News October 29, 2013

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”George Orwell, “1984″

You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken manure.

“Good” news and bad news.

The Obama crony capitalists are making progress on Healthcare.gov, the Obamacare website.

The bad news.

Obamacare is destroying our health care system and economy.

From Fox News December 1, 2013.

“Administration to release more data on ObamaCare site’s progress”

“The Obama administration is expected to give a fuller picture Sunday of whether it met its self-imposed November 30 deadline to allow 50,000 people to access the federal healthcare exchange website simultaneously.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) have scheduled a press conference for 9 a.m. to discuss the progress of the site, Healthcare.gov.

Obama administration officials said Saturday that the site had “performed well” and that upgrades overnight Friday had improved response times and reduced errors. The site was taken offline between 9 p.m. Friday and 8 a.m. Eastern time Saturday, in addition to its regular maintenance window, which falls between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. Eastern time Sunday.

“With the scheduled upgrades last night and tonight, we’re on track to meet our stated goal for the site to work for the vast majority of users,” CMS spokesman Aaron Albright told Fox News earlier Saturday.”

“Avoiding a break in coverage is particularly important for millions of people whose current individual policies were canceled because they don’t meet the standards of the health care law, as well as for a group of about 100,000 in an expiring federal program for high-risk patients.

Democrats and Republicans will be closely watching the site this weekend. With the midterm elections less than a year away, it’s vital to Democrats that the site lives up to expectations the president set. Republicans have already suggested they’ll launch coordinated attacks linking every congressional Democrat up for re-election to the Affordable Care Act.”

Read more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/30/obamacare-website-re-do-deadline-set-for-saturday/

***  Update  ***

From ABC News.

“The worst of the online glitches, crashes and delays may be over for the problem-plagued government health care website, the Department of Health and Human Services said Sunday.

But that doesn’t mean HealthCare.gov is ready for a clean bill of health.

Officials acknowledged more work remains on the website that included hundreds of software bugs, inadequate equipment and inefficient management for its national debut two months ago. Federal workers and private contractors have undertaken an intense reworking of the system, but the White House’s chief troubleshooter cautioned some users could still encounter trouble.

“The bottom line — HealthCare.gov on Dec. 1 is night and day from where it was on Oct. 1,” Jeff Zients told reporters.

More than 50,000 people can log on to the website at one time and more than 800,000 people will be able to shop for insurance coverage each day, the government estimated in a report released Sunday. If true, it’s a dramatic improvement from the system’s first weeks, when frustrated buyers watched their computer screen freeze, the website crash and error messages multiply.

The figures — which could not be independently verified — suggest millions of Americans could turn to their laptops to shop for and buy insurance policies by the Dec. 23 deadline.

“There’s not really any way to verify from the outside that the vast majority of people who want to enroll can now do so, but we’ll find out at least anecdotally over the coming days if the system can handle the traffic and provide a smooth experience for people trying to sign up,” said Larry Levitt, a senior adviser at the Kaiser Family Foundation.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/white-house-track-health-care-website-goal-21058064

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87 responses to “Obamacare Healthcare.gov status press conference, December 1, 2013, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, CMS, Federal healthcare exchange website, Making chicken salad out of chicken manure

  1. Good morning all.

  2. Good morning CW and all,
    The current Obamacare system is unworkable unless many many young people sign up for insurance. The insurance companies increased rates because they were well aware that they would receive many people requests for insurance, with pre-existing conditions, that would make them more expensive to care for then the money they obtained, which could only be offset by youth enrollment. Young people will not get insurance and still get care by the emergency rooms. Further, the young will not get a ‘fine’ because most of them don’t pay taxes now anyway.

    The system is unworkable unless, approximately 50k young people a day, sign up for health care insurance. This isn’t going to happen, so Obamacare will require ‘extreme’ measures to fund itself. Death panels, raising insurance rates, and finally enormous penalties for those not purchasing insurance. Don’t be shocked if the ‘penalty’ for not purchasing insurance soon is greater than the purchase price for insurance. Soon the penalty for not having insurance will be greater than the average 20 year old yearly income.

    Liberals, it’s all ‘hope and change’ until someone actually has to pay for it or make it work.

    Pete

  3. Good morning CW, Pete, et al,

    Pete, I agree with your analogy whereby “if” Obamacare is to survive, it will have to raise the tax (penalty) astronomically. However, I don’t believe that is going to happen. Just my opinion though.

    What I do believe will happen is that the planned failure of Obamacare will force everyone into a 1 payer system – Medicaid, one of the primary reasons they “lowered” the bar for people to qualify. Collapse Medicare by cutting over half a trillion dollars out of it over the next 10 years, which they have in order to help pay for Obamacare. When both fail (which they will) Obamacare and Medicare, that only leaves Medicaid. Hence now a 1 payer system which is their “end game” goal.

    As they say, never let a good crisis go to waste. Create the crisis to rescue it as the savior.

    Just my opinion of course.

  4. From >>> October 23, 2013

    Kris Zane:

    “ObamaCare is a Trojan Horse for Socialized Medicine”

    “Barack Obama traveled the country promising that ObamaCare would lower the cost of health insurance and increase availability to healthcare. But it has had the opposite effect: Health insurance costs are skyrocketing. Doctors are dropping out of the healthcare market in droves, and HMOs are firing doctors by the thousands.

    But this was no surprise to Obama’s central planners. They knew that health insurance premiums would skyrocket for most Americans. They knew that doctors would drop out of the healthcare market in droves. They knew that most would opt out of Obamacare and pay the fine.

    And they know Obamacare will eventually collapse.

    With Obamacare and the entire healthcare industry in shambles, the public will clamor for single-payer, socialized medicine that will eventually put everything—insurance, doctors, nurses, hospitals, medical equipment—even our own bodies—under the all-wise control of government.

    It’s called stealth socialism.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamacare-trojan-horse-socialized-medicine/

    ===============
    From >>> October 26, 2013

    M. Catharine Evans and Ann Kane:

    “Toward Single-Payer: We’re Almost There”

    “”A few days ago, Fox News’s Chris Stirewalt suggested that the bumbling IT rollout could lead to a break in the relationship between insurance carriers and Obama.

    “While Hill Democrats might be placated with promises of urgent action to fix the fouled Web site and sign-up system, the insurance chiefs are likely to be less understanding If ObamaCare doesn’t deliver the millions of desirable customers the president has promised, widespread rate shocks even higher than those already reported could cause more insurers to dump customers and get out of the business altogether.”

    What Stirewalt and others don’t get or don’t want to believe is that putting the private insurance industry out of business was all part of the plan. The president’s 2003 utopian agenda of a single-payer system cannot happen as long as they exist.””

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/towards_single-payer_were_almost_there.html

  5. “The Five: ObamaCare Blunders Part Of Larger Single-Payer Plan?”

    Published on November 29, 2013

  6. Even if Obama’s killing system goes to single payer it will still have to be subsidized by the remaining taxpayers. More businesses will fail while more deaths/disease will occur, obviously. Meanwhile greater inflation (it’s already here, but shhh, they think you’re stupid) will cause more panic and chaos, esp. against the remaining “haves”. This “system” of non-health will encourage more “compassionate” dying of the most delicate….esp., then, the oldest and youngest….will encourage even more abortions, etc. When it could have simply zeroed in on those without any insurance it instead was used as THE method to destroy any light left for the world via our great country.

  7. Breaking: Metro North Train Derailment In New York City

    “This is a train coming from along Hudson Valley into NYC. It derailed in the Bronx, north of Manhattan. This is a frequently used commuter train. Fortunately, it was an early train and a Sunday, so it likely had fewer people than it normally would have.

    There are report(s) of 4 deaths and up to 30 injured.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/

  8. Couple Finds Out 18 Month Old Daughter Is Not Covered Under Obamacare Family Plan

    “This is a pip. She has to be two, according to what they were told, to be covered on the family plan. Otherwise they have to buy a separate plan? But those up to 26 are covered? What the heck? Hopefully this is some stupid Obamacare official’s misunderstanding and not just the biggest jackassery yet in this turkey of a system.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/01/couple-finds-out-18-month-old-daughter-is-not-covered-under-obamacare-family-plan/

    Perhaps in this system a baby isn’t considered human (part of family) before age 2….it wouldn’t surprise me.

  9. There is no question that O’Care was designed to lead to a single payer system. That is a given, I believe. Even at best O’Care is bound to struggle along leaving misery and destruction in its path. It is extremely doubtful that it can financially survive because of the reasons Pete and others have set forth.

    However, can we just say that the next step is certain? There are still enough in this country who will fight socialized medicine with all of their might. If O’Care is bad, socialized medicine administered by this present group of turkeys will be much worse. If by that time we still have a Congress acting at all, how far will a single payer plan get?

    This is important! I am not the greatest student of history, but most other countries who have adopted socialized medicine did it primarily because it was thought to raise the quality of healthcare for the people. Contrary to that, we have those in executive power in the U.S. who are working to take over our beloved country and convert it to a socialist/communist state. They couldn’t care less about the welfare of the American people.

    Frankly, O could try this by executive order (in bits and pieces), but it is my opinion that this would be the straw that broke the camel’s back. If Congress, feeble as it is, didn’t stop him, this could certainly be a recipe for civil war, if something else doesn’t take us down before.

  10. Cabbyaz “I am not the greatest student of history, but most other countries who have adopted socialized medicine did it primarily because it was thought to raise the quality of healthcare for the people. Contrary to that, we have those in executive power in the U.S. who are working to take over our beloved country and convert it to a socialist/communist state. They couldn’t care less about the welfare of the American people.”

    The ends justify the means. Which is Liberal speak for power to an elite class of ruling people who no longer have to answer to the people. This is what the ‘Progressives’ really want, and it’s anything but forward thinking. War is coming, either it be civil or external forces……perhaps both. The destruction of medicine and fleecing of the average citizen are just symptoms of the disease that destroys everything because it’s “trying to help”, while it helps itself.

    Pete

  11. Air Force Brat

    Cabby — you are correct.

    Implementation of socialized medicine (a/k/a single-payer, or whatever it’s called on any given day) will only succeed if it is ALLOWED to do so.

    I’d hope Congress would retain enough of the instinct for self-preservation to bring this load of equine excrement to a screeching halt. If not, the American people would have to make a very hard decision.

  12. Pete, “The destruction of medicine and fleecing of the average citizen are just symptoms of the disease that destroys everything because it’s “trying to help”, while it helps itself.”
    **********************************
    Couldn’t agree more, but aren’t those who follow the elitists utter fools? Where’s the money going to ultimately come from to finance their utopian dream? Whatever “work force” that is left will be reduced to serfdom.
    Look at North Korea for an example of what can ultimately happen.

  13. Air Force Brat, “Implementation of socialized medicine (a/k/a single-payer, or whatever it’s called on any given day) will only succeed if it is ALLOWED to do so.”
    *****************************
    That statement says it all and very succinctly! Thanks for imparting your wisdom.

  14. When you enter Socialised Medicine you have also crossed the threshold into a Socialist Government. I personally believe that our SNOTNOSED OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS, think this SHOULD HAPPEN. They are so OVEREDUCATED they are among the DUMBEST individuals in our midst. They also think Soetoro is GOD. In actuality these people want to see a dictatorship in our government,and in all probability they,along with the DEVIATES will do all they can to make it happen. Once they get a good taste of the reality of their all grand and good Socialism, I believe that within a year or two thereafter they will be RIOTING for the return of all that was taken away. Unfortunately it will be too late then,and guess what ……the SLIMEY supporters of the regime will get to wallow in their own pool of FECES.

  15. Observer………
    Not too long ago there was another derailment in NY at a gurve in the tracks. The NTSB is still debating the cause,but the PROBABLE cause was a DRUGGED engineer. When a train derails in the direction of the centrifugal forces in a curve the train was GOING TOO FAST…..pure and simple. The same pattern is clearly shown in the latest derailment….excessive speed! The train derailed in the direction of the centrifugal force which built up energy until the train literally CAPSISED. Once again I point to the side of the track upon which all the cars came to rest……OPPOSIT THE CURVE of the trackage.

  16. ……….sometimes the centrifugal force put upon the cars of a train in a curve of the trackage,etc is referred to as a TANGENTIAL force. In some instances the point at which the tangential force overcomes the weight of the COACHES is also called the MOMENT OF INERTIA.

  17. Thornton Parsons

    Obamacare has nothing to do with health insurance or better health care for Americans. It’s about taxation, depopulation, and control. Taking control.

  18. December 1, 2013

    “North Carolina Obamacare Navigator Group That Planned To Sign Up 5,800 People: “We’ve Yet To See An Application From Start To Finish”…”

    “In other words, they missed their 5,800 goal by exactly 5,800 people.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/01/north-carolina-obamacare-navigator-group-that-planned-to-sign-up-5800-people-weve-yet-to-see-an-application-from-start-to-finish/

  19. Who Can Legally Arrest The President? Sergeant at Arms,

  20. Watch!

  21. oldsailor81…..

    I just want to say that I admire that you are very knowledgeable, intelligent, and street smart. And…..Funny! :) I have endured learning disabilities all my life but I think with my push to learn has helped this old lady get to a higher level then I could have ever dreamed. Yes, I am proud of myself. And no I am not the brightest bulb in the room. haha

  22. ObamaCare Website Crashes When CNN Tests Upgraded Version

    A really funny thing happened Sunday morning when the folks at CNN’s New Day tried to open a health insurance account at the newly upgraded ObamaCare website.

    It crashed (video follows with transcript and commentary):

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/12/01/obamacare-website-crashes-when-cnn-tests-upgraded-version#ixzz2mHf0pgLH

  23. “Fixed” Obamacare Website Front Page “Alert” Warns Users They Could Be Sent To Virtual Waiting Room – Update: People Still Getting Error Messages…

    As of this morning there’s an orange alert warning on the top right of the HealthCare.gov website.

    The warning reads:

    During times of especially high demand, you may be queued to begin your online Marketplace application to ensure the best possible shopping experience.

    2013-12-02 09:53:25…….

    “Sorry, there’s a problem with our system.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/02/fixed-obamacare-website-front-page-alert-warns-users-they-could-be-sent-to-virtual-waiting-room/

  24. Ginger………..
    I am NOT any smarter than anyone else. When I express a concern regarding certain issues what I have to say comes largely from having been on earth for 81 years, and having learned what I do know from GOOD OLE CUT AND TRY! It is a bit more expensive than reading about it in a book, but I can guarantee that damn few people forget what they have learned by CUT AND TRY……..NOR HAVE I!

  25. Observer……….
    Here is how I feel about the Canadian MORONS that were hired to create the ACA website……BRRRRAAAAAACCCCCHHHHH……PTUUUUUIE. All MOOCH had to do was call upon the same people who created EBAY,AMAZON,GOOGLE,or YAHOO,not to mention YOU TUBE,WIKIPEDIA ETC. I guess that would have been too damn simple. Remember no matter what everything must have the aire of absolute IMPORRRRRRTANCE, which is the by word of everything the SNOTNOSED OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS do ,say,and believe. They even think they are absolutely superior to all other humanity,and that everyone should kiss their STINKING FEET. har har

  26. ……………….i guess that is why their “alleged” ACA website works SO WELL……it was “CREATED BY SUPERIOR BEINGS”…..har har.

  27. December 2, 2013

    Colin Flaherty:

    “Knocking out the Deniers”

    “The deniers of black mob violence have a new mantra: “Colin, show us the numbers.” Otherwise, all this talk about the Knockout Game and an epidemic of black on white violence is a myth. An urban legend.

    First off, the numbers on racial crime and violence are just as horrific as you can imagine. Pick a number between between 5 and 100. That is how many times greater black crime and violence is compared to white and Asian.

    The only people who do not know that are ones who don’t want to know it.

    Deniers screech “profiling!” when people use lots of statistics on racial violence. Turn around and use stories instead and the Los Angeles Times will accuse you of “cherry picking.”

    Result: It’s better not to write about it at all. I just saved you the price of admission to the next Society of Professional Journalists seminar on how to report racial violence.

    Let’s do it anyway — talk about the numbers, that is.

    The second thing we need to know is that more and more people in academia and the press don’t care about the numbers: They say the enormous difference between black and white rates of crime and violence are not due to black behavior, but white racism. Welcome to Critical Race Theory: White racism is everywhere. White racism is permanent. Facts are racist.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/the_deniers_of_black_mob.html

  28. Reporter condemns “hostile” White House
    By Steve Straub On December 1, 2013 ·
    Veteran reporter Bob Franken stunned an MSNBC anchor by calling the Obama administration “the most hostile to the media” in American history.

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/current-events/reporter-condemns-hostile-white-house

  29. In the video that Ginger posted Clare Lopez is nearly dead on what has been happening to our country……for decades. Progressivism has been with us for a really long time,but as she stated the conditions in the US really ripened during the nineties,and the progressives were quick to seize upon a good crisis. I am talking about the FIRST TERM of SLICK WILLY. Keep in mind that here was a KNOWN CRIMINAL, from ARKANSAS who the LIBERALS chose to run for POTUS,and NO he was NOT VETTED EITHER!.and all the females in the US voted for him. When they were asked why they had voted for SLICK WILLY they smiled and replied “Because he has nice BUNNS”.Such an answer clearly manifests the adled state of the young female’s mentality at that point in time.

  30. Another Reason They Should Have Read the Bill: The $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget
    Morgan Brittany | Dec 02, 2013

    Obviously no one read Section 4002 in the Affordable Care Act, because if they had they would have seen that this little section created a fund to promote Obamacare.Here are the staggering numbers allocated to promote this monstrosity.In 2010 it is $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion!

    “The Prevention and Public Health Fund will provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs”.If you read between the lines they are saying that this fund will be used to sell the idea of Obamacare in any way that they see fit.

    http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/morganbrittany/2013/12/02/another-reason-they-should-have-read-the-bill-the-8-billion-obamacare-pr-budget-n1755797

  31. Gordo………
    If what the statistics prove is looked upon as BULLSHI# by the black community,lets try another sort of approach. All you have to do is look at any prison, and the predoninant occupants are BLACK. This is true even through all categories of crime. I pray that people will once again strap on good ole hoglegs,and use them as needed. “Be not afraid of any man no matter what his size, for you only need to call on me and I will EQUALISE.” This was a little thing that a few notorious gunfighters of the old west,had engraved upon the backstrap of their PEACEMAKERS

  32. Jonah…………
    What else would you expect from people who think UP is DOWN?

  33. Will the (lack of) state exchanges bring Obamacare down?

    Obamacare’s penalties for not buying insurance, as well as the subsidies that make its plans affordable in the first place, may not be legal in a majority of states, according to Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt.
    Pruitt is suing the federal government on those grounds.
    According to the letter of the law, the government can only reward subsidies and levy penalties in states that have created Obamacare state exchanges

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/02/will-the-lack-of-state-exchanges-bring-obamacare-down/#ixzz2mNkbkK4h

  34. What a letter!! This is a must read!

    The Post & Email’s Open Letter
    to Those Masquerading as the Media pb
    “LOOK IN THE MIRROR”
    Sharon Rondeau | The Post & Email

    December 2, 2013

    To the 39 “media” outlets protesting lack of access to the Obama White House in a hand-delivered letter on November 21, 2013:

    Putative White House Press Secretary Jay Carney
    was given a letter signed by 39 members of the
    media protesting lack of access and ability
    to photograph Obama in his official capacity.
    Your missive to putative White House spokesman Jay Carney will fall on deaf ears.

    You wonder why Obama’s handlers will not allow you access to “the President while he is performing his official duties.” You question why only sanitized, poised photos released by the White House are allowed to circulate in the public arena. In order to obtain answers, however, you need to look at yourselves and admit what you, not Obama, did to your profession.

    Had you researched Obama’s background in 2007 and 2008, you would have found out that he is a communist. “Communist,” you say? Oh, you believed that communists were a thing of the past, something railed about by that crazy Sen. Joseph McCarthy back in the 1950s while more sophisticated members of the Congress and the “media” laughed behind his back or ridiculed him openly. Yes, ridicule is a thing you “journalists” do quite well when you see something that is simply below your elevated stature to investigate.

    An example is the questions about Obama’s constitutional eligibility which arose in 2008.

    In late 2007, progressive talking head Chris Matthews said on MSNBC that “Obama was born in Indonesia.” While Matthews failed to cite a source for his statement, a second similar report went to print in a Hawaii publication shortly thereafter. None of you was even the slightest bit curious about Obama’s background and whether or not he was constitutionally eligible to occupy the highest office in the land. You gave no thought to Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution which mandates that only a “natural born Citizen” be elected to the presidency.

    You are now beside yourselves because the Obama regime has imposed “restrictions” which “raise constitutional concerns.” However, you are five years too late. Those of us who had “constitutional concerns” when we saw a foreigner campaigning for the office of President and Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America were ridiculed, brushed aside, made pariahs, forbidden from speaking our minds on your precious airwaves, and banished to the blogosphere for even suggesting that Obama was not constitutionally eligible or possessed other impediments to serving in that capacity.

    Now, you are indignant that this foreign-born domestic enemy, this friend of radical Islam, this charlatan who has usurped the Oval Office each and every day for the last five years, denigrating and spitting on America, has limited what you perceive as your First Amendment rights.

    Look in the mirror.

    Because you failed to act, because you failed to investigate, because you wanted Obama to win the presidency whether or not he met the eligibility criteria, the United States of America is now held hostage by a group of 1960s radicals who wish to see all of you, and us, destroyed. If you would remove your blinders just a little bit more, you would see, in all of its stark reality, that the enemy from within is not only within the gates, but now rules supreme.

    Do you really believe that the takeover of the auto industry was necessary, that dealerships were closed randomly, that so many stockholders lost their investments without recourse in the courts because it was constitutional? And how prodigiously did you report on Obama’s bowing to the Saudi king in 2009? Did you host commentators with opposing views to analyze what Obama intended by that and other of his actions?

    Do you really believe that the sequestration cuts affecting the military are not imposed by design after Obama skyrocketed the national debt to over $17 trillion in order to reward his former campaign bundlers and other cronies with Americans’ hard-earned dollars?

    What did you do after the Obama regime removed all references to “radical Islam” from FBI and military training manuals? Did you rejoice at how inclusive your black president was, or did you ask why it was done? Did you wonder why Lt. Col. Matthew Dooley‘s career was ruined because Obama’s Joint Chiefs Chairman, Gen. Martin Dempsey, became a shill for his Islamic boss?

    Did you ever investigate why Lt. Col. Terry Lakin sat in a cold, hard cell at Ft. Leavenworth for five months for questioning Obama’s eligibility and why no one in Congress could answer the question? Or did you remain in your comfortable offices and lounge chairs living the good life while Obama continued to eviscerate what was left of it?

    Do you wonder why Islamic terrorism is on the rise, as admitted by a leading Democrat senator on Sunday? Do you wonder why nearly four times the number of U.S. soldiers’ lives have been lost in Afghanistan under the man you propelled into a position of commanding our military than under his predecessor?

    Do you ever wonder about the young men who have been court-martialed unfairly because Obama’s Rules of Engagement have tied their hands while Islamic terrorists shoot at their hearts and their men? Do you even cover those cases? Or are you above that, too?

    Did it ever enter your minds that your lack of concern for America, and your intense desire to see a progressive candidate “fundamentally transform America,” have caused your current frustration over Obama’s lack of “transparency” today?

    The truth is, you are the ones who have done a disservice to America by refusing to investigate Obama’s background. You never reported that he was a member of the New Party in Chicago, that he used and may still use aliases, that his background and life story make no sense, and that he has associated with Chicago’s underground since before he entered politics. All of that was below you, and you certainly didn’t want to unearth any undesirable information on your chosen man.

    On a daily basis, you deny Americans the information they need to make sound decisions about their government while promoting your own pet agendas.

    Now, most egregiously, you have not looked into the matter of the forgery of Obama’s long-form birth certificate as reported at two press conferences last year. Instead of launching bona fide investigations of your own after Mike Zullo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced their findings of fraud and forgery, you became angry at the messengers because their words did not mesh with your doctrinaire beliefs that your Anointed One, Barack Hussein Obama, would ever engage in obfuscation and secrecy to the extent that his real identity is not even known.

    Had you investigated Obama in 2008, America would not be facing the crisis currently visited upon us now. Instead of indignantly protesting the “troubling precedent” which the regime has imposed on you by limiting your access to photograph its figurehead, why don’t you question why they would do such a thing? Why don’t you ask why Obama is the most un-American person to have ever stepped foot in the White House outside of his Muslim Brotherhood friends, whose visits occur under the cloak of secrecy? Why don’t you question what he is doing to all of us by depriving people of their right to choose whether or not to buy health insurance?

    Where are your tough questions for the regime as cancer patients lose their coverage and, after speaking out, receive audit notices from the IRS?

    Why can’t you admit that you were wrong?

    Did you ever read George Orwell’s 1984? If not, you need to.

    Do you not wonder why the EPA is destroying jobs, why there is no economic recovery, and the reason that there are so many Muslims working at the Department of Homeland Security?

    How many questions have you asked about the deaths of four Americans and the injuries of several others in Beghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012? Or were you too scared to speak up for fear that you might lose access to the faux administration?

    It didn’t matter what you did; you have lost that access anyway, as evidenced by your letter.

    Instead of hoping to fulfill your own political desires for America, you should have upheld your duty to perform your First Amendment function before Obama cheated his way in to the people’s house at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by doing old-fashioned investigative journalism instead of the whitewash so typical of big media companies today.

    If you are concerned about your constitutional rights being trampled, why are you not concerned about Americans’ right to have a constitutionally-eligible individual without foreign allegiances in our White House? Has it occurred to you that the man you call “the President” has absolutely no right to even pretend to hold the office?

    You decry Obama’s absconding of your First Amendment rights, but I decry your wanton destruction of the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights by failing to vet this man who continues to wreak his havoc on a nation now reeling from the effects of his evil intent.

    One of you on the list of media companies protesting Obama’s “limits” on the press has been identified as a criminal co-conspirator in two affidavits presented to a U.S. District Court and now the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. One of your reporters is specifically named as having purposely provided false information to the public to convince them that Obama was born in Hawaii when there is no evidence to prove that that is the case. Oh, but yes, you never investigated that and ridiculed those who did, so you wouldn’t know…those “Birthers” are crazy, now, aren’t they?

    If the allegations against NBC News are true, what does that say about the whole sorry lot of you for going along with the “born in Hawaii” charade?

    What it says is that your day is past. You sold out America for 30 pieces of silver, or whatever your price was to continue to preen yourselves and draw your six-figure salaries from your corrupt news bureaus. You are part of the problem, and in fact, you are the problem, as evidenced by your complete disregard for the truth.

    Do some reading on Germany in the 1930s, and you will have your answer as to why your “constitutional concerns” will not be addressed. This time, Carney and his ilk will be ridiculing you, wondering which one of you he will take to the woodshed, or worse, for daring to sign on to such a bold letter.

    Those who propelled Hugo Chavez to power in Venezuela had their property and businesses seized by the very man they had supported.

    Those who catapulted Obama into the White House without proper vetting to protect the constitutional rights of all Americans are now being silenced.

    Now look in the mirror.

    Therein lies your answer.

    Instead of wringing your hands and worrying if you will be next to receive a nasty phone call from one of Obama’s handlers, pick up the phone and call Mike Zullo. Call Sheriff Arpaio. Call Rep. Steve Stockman. Call someone who can show you the proof that Obama is a fraud.

    Then, take a deep breath and do what needs to be done. Tell the American people the truth if you really care about constitutional rights. Throw them a lifeline.

    You have all the tools you need, but do you have the courage?

    Sincerely,

    Sharon Rondeau, Editor
    The Post & Email
    P.O. Box 195
    Stafford Springs, CT 06076

  35. Thank you Sharon Rondeau.

  36. Cover-up Update: Sen. Chuck Grassley’s office delivers a “Fast and Furious” bombshell

    http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/12/03/cover-up-update-sen-chuck-grassleys-office-delivers-a-fast-and-furious-bombshell/

  37. November 3, 2013

    Colin Flaherty:

    “‘Lefty’ librarian beaten to pulp in Knockout Game”

    “Before his encounter with the Knockout Game and racial violence, Paul Lane was “a lefty.”

    That was until Nov. 7, 2013. The day everything changed for Paul. The day Kenneth Johnson walked into the Contra Costa library and played the Knockout Game.

    “It was 2:49 in the afternoon,” said Lane, a librarian. “And this black guy, I won’t say he was a kid, he was 21 years old, comes into the room in the library. I was helping a 67-year-old guy with history and old movies, because I know that stuff. He was smiling as if he knew the guy I was helping. Then he – Johnson – walks up to the patron and hits him on the side of the head as hard as he can.”

    “So the guy jumps over the library desk and started beating me. And hits me about 20 or 25 times. I can’t remember exactly cause I’m kinda blocked out a bit. Yeah, he really whaled into me. He decked the patron with one punch. He hit me in the ear. In the side of the head. The top of the head. I was bleeding from the nose, eyes, mouth, ears.”

    Lane crawled into the other room and asked for help. …

    Johnson left the library the same way he arrived — his mother drove him. But in their rush to get away, first they could not start their car. Then Johnson insisted on taking the wheel. His erratic driving made him easy to find. Within 30 minutes he was in police custody.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/knockout-game-victim-i-no-longer-trust-blacks/

  38. And people wonder why Arpaio can go nowhere with all that evidence….told by the obvious go to agencies (like Selective Service) to take it to the FBI. Remember him saying…”and who do they work for?” Well, when it comes to breaking the law there’s no one better at it than the AG. So where does one go??:

    RE: IRS targeting conservative groups “investigation”:

    “Six months after it began, the FBI’s investigation has resulted in no release of information. The congressmen said the FBI even rescinded an offer for an in-person briefing with the assistant director in charge of the investigation. The reversal, after the FBI consulted with the Justice Department, suggests political meddling, the two investigators said.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/issa-fbi-impeding-inquiry-into-irs-misconduct/#PHRJ7oQvmry7CC82.99

  39. OT, Did you hear that OB’s uncle gets to stay in the USA?

  40. Last night Glenn Beck was on Hannity….He mentioned the Battle Of Athens, Tennessee 1945-46…Since I have never heard of the story, I looked it up. Good read!

    http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm

  41. “American Story: The Battle of Athens – 1946 – Athens, Tennessee (Full Movie)”

    Published on August 19, 2013

    At YouTube:

    “”The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946……”

    The ballot box was being ‘compromised’ by the local government and the citizens fought back!

    “…..This is why the founders gave us the Second amendment. It has nothing to do with hunting or just a defense from a foreign army.”

  42. Did anyone see this? Simply amazing! Linked from Drudge.

    During a congressional committee hearing about the constitutional limits imposed on the presidency and the implications of President Barack Obama’s disregard for implementing the Affordable Care Act as written, one expert testified that the consequences of the president’s behavior were potentially grave. He said that the precedent set by Obama could eventually lead to an armed revolt against the federal government.

    On Tuesday, Michael Cannon, Cato Institute’s Director of Health Policy Studies, testified before a congressional committee about the dangers of the president’s legal behavior.

    “There is one last thing to which the people can resort if the government does not respect the restrains that the constitution places on the government,” Cannon said. “Abraham Lincoln talked about our right to alter our government or our revolutionary right to overthrow it.”

    “That is certainly something that no one wants to contemplate,” he continued. “If the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the laws then they will conclude that neither are they.”

    “That is a very dangerous sort of thing for the president to do, to wantonly ignore the laws,” Cannon concluded, “to try to impose obligation upon people that the legislature did not approve.”

    Watch the clip below via C-SPAN 2:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/expert-testifies-to-congress-that-obamas-ignoring-laws-could-lead-to-overthrow-of-government/

    He also said something along the lines of, “If the govt. decides they don’t have to follow the law, then the citizenry will decide the same”.

  43. SueQ | December 3, 2013 at 9:07 pm |
    Did anyone see this? Simply amazing! Linked from Drudge.

    ====================================
    Yeah, Sue Q….had just copied that….you beat me to it. At least someone is actually speaking out loud about what Congress should be screaming from the roof top. Do they just make laws so that the executive branch can break them? How nice of them!

  44. P.S. It’s on the Kelly File now….an “uber presidency”!!

  45. Feeling a little insecure in general these days?

    Expert: Healthcare.gov Security Risks Even Worse After ‘Fix’
    Obamacare website more vulnerable to security breached

    Health and Human Services (HHS) released a progress report on Sunday following its self-imposed Nov. 30 deadline to repair the website, saying that the “team has knocked more than 400 bug fixes and software improvements off the punch list.”

    The administration said that the “site capacity is stable at its intended level,” though the site continued to crash on Monday.

    The eight-page report made no mention of the website’s numerous security flaws, which experts say put Americans’ personal information at risk.

    “It doesn’t appear that any security fixes were done at all,” David Kennedy, CEO of the online security firm TrustedSec, told the Washington Free Beacon.

    Kennedy said fundamental safeguards missing from Healthcare.gov that were identified by his company more than a month ago have yet to be put in place.

    “There are a number of security concerns already with the website, and that’s without even actually hacking the site, that’s just a purely passive analysis of [it],” he said. “We found a number of critical exposures that were around sensitive information, the ability to hack into the site, things like that. We reported those issues and none of those appear to have been addressed at all.”

    After warning Americans when testifying before Congress on Nov. 19 to stay away from Healthcare.gov, Kennedy now says the situation is even worse.

    “They said they implemented over 400 bug fixes,” he said. “When you recode the application to fix these 400 bugs—they were rushing this out of the door to get the site at least so it can work a little bit—you’re introducing more security flaws as you go along with it because you don’t even check that code.”

    “I’m a little bit more skeptical now, and I would still definitely advise individuals to not use the website because it’s definitely something that I don’t believe is secure and neither did the four individuals that testified in front of Congress,” Kennedy said. “I think there’s some major security concerns there around privacy and information, and they haven’t even come close to being addressed, and won’t be in the short term.”

    Security exposures are not limited to the federal health exchange, but the 14 state marketplace websites as well. A breach has already been cited in Vermont, where a user was given access to another’s Social Security Number.

    “That’s a whole other front of hacking,” Kennedy said. “That’s what’s actually going to contain all the sensitive information for residents in those states.”

    “States are required to notify in the event of a breach, the federal government is not,” he added. “So in the event that Healthcare.gov gets compromised and all their information gets taken out of it they don’t have to notify anybody.”

    Kennedy said the team working on Healthcare.gov is more likely to hide its security flaws than address them. When it was revealed that the most popular searches on the website were hack attempts—confirmed by entering a semicolon in the search bar—the website simply removed the tool.

    “The top results were hacker attempts,” Kennedy said. “Their fix for it wasn’t, ‘Hey let’s restrict people from inputting malicious code into the website,’—because that’s how hackers break into websites—it was, ‘we’re just going to completely disable that entire function completely, and not even show the search results back.’”

    CMS did not respond to requests for comment.

  46. I went to the healthcare.gov site just to poke around and see what it was about. I was there about ten minutes. After I left, I suspected I picked up a boatload of cookies from the site. I have some software that does a very good job of detecting and eliminating these cookies. So I ran a scan and sure enough, in that brief visit I picked up 88 cookies! This website is loaded with crapwear cookies, including all kinds of tracking of your web-browsing that ends up providing data to the government about your characteristics and your health-related profile.

    Just be aware when visiting this site. It is infested to the max.

  47. Trudy | December 3, 2013 at 6:30 pm |

    Oh, yeah, Trudy, we know.

    How lucky are we here in MA; we have Aunt Zeituni (a/k/a Auntie Tuni) who’s living in public housing and hitting the welfare trifecta on our dime, and now we have Uncle ‘Omar’ (a/k/a Stinky), an illegal alien and a drunk who likes to drive while under the influence.

    Do ya think the judge was perhaps bought by their ‘nephew?’ Stinky was held up by the judge as an outstanding citizen who deserved to be in America. WHAT? After he defied a deportation order in the 1990s?

    So, thanks to their nephew barky, these two criminal invaders are allowed to stay in the U.S. and leech off the system; that would be my tax money, and yours.

    Oh, and guess what Stinky does for a living? He manages a liquor store. Isn’t that like letting the fox loose in the henhouse?

  48. At 10:04 pm —

    “… in that brief visit I picked up 88 cookies!”
    **********
    An easy way for everyone to check on their cookie ‘collection':

    Use CCleaner (free):

    1) Left-click “Analyze”.

    2) Left-click “Options”.

    3) Left-click “Cookies”.
    ==========
    At “SnapFiles”:

    “CCleaner (Slim)”

    “CCleaner is a tool to clean your system from temporary and unnecessary files that accumulate over time. This also includes rather thorough cleaning of Internet and PC usage tracks like browser cache, recently used files, web sites visited and more. You can select the items that you want cleaned and also specify cookies that should not be deleted.”

    ["The Slim version of CCleaner is identical to the standard version but does not offer to install a toolbar. It is usually updated a week or so after the standard version is updated."]

    http://www.snapfiles.com/get/ccleaner.html

    ==========
    “Complete Ultimate In Depth Guide to CCleaner by Britec”

    At YouTube:

    “CCleaner is the number-one tool for cleaning your Windows PC. It protects your privacy online and makes your computer faster and more secure. Easy to use and a small, fast download.”

    Published on October 17, 2012

  49. Observer quotes, “”“States are required to notify in the event of a breach, the federal government is not,” he added. “So in the event that Healthcare.gov gets compromised and all their information gets taken out of it they don’t have to notify anybody.”
    ******************************************
    And we all know that the gov’t will NOT notify anyone or even talk about the vulnerabilities. I read somewhere today on-line that a noted hacking expert (may have been Kennedy that was quoted in your cited article) warned that the vulnerabilities of compromised info can extend beyond the leaking of sensitive data from the site itself. What can happen is that your own computer passwords, e-mails, etc. can be violated. In other words, the gov’t site in the hands of hackers can then get into your own computer records and cause all kinds of problems. I wouldn’t touch that site with a ten-foot pole.

  50. GORDO,
    I use a Mac and got instructions sometime ago on how to clear out cookies, but I don’t remember there being selectivity. I cleared them all out but had to consent to allow them to add on in the future; otherwise, as I recall, there was a restriction as to being able to visit certain sites.

  51. Thornton Parsons

    Just as we figured. Election fraud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJtaOO2etc

  52. I remove ALL cookies (and have NO personal info stored on the c-drive, 5 other hard drives or any flash drives).
    **********
    CCleaner for Mac:

    >>> “Mac OS X 10.5 or later”

    http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/CCleaner.shtml

    ==========
    At “Piriform”:

    (bottom of page)

    “Our Mac products require OS X 10.5 to 10.9″

    http://www.piriform.com/products

  53. December 3, 2013

    “Document Expert Says Identity Of Forger Given To Team Arpaio; Forger Left Her Name”

    Full audio at link:

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/12/document-expert-identity-of-obama-forger.html#more

    “Obama Forger Signed Obama Birth Certificate”

    “Document Expert Gave Identity Of Obama Forger To Sheriff Arpaio”

  54. Thanks SueK,I didn’t know where he lived.This is what makes me so mad.Did you hear about the German family.They came over here,so that they could home school their kids.Its against the law in Germany.They are going to be deport ..The father is afraid that they will be arrested. I did know about the Auntie.

  55. December 4, 2013

    “WOBC: A Lot More Obama Fraud Information Coming That Will Make Eyes Spin”

    “Updates About Our Sheriff’s Kits Go To Washington D.C. Trip; Important update about our presentation of the Sheriff’s kits in Washington D.C. Miki Booth special guest has an update.”

    Full audio at link:

    [from December 3]

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/12/wobc-lot-more-obama-fraud-information.html#more

    Audio excerpt:

  56. Gordo…This one caught my eye! Wow! When that happened I thought it strange that they shot that female like they did and to not let the family see the body, etc ??????

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11/family-demand-paternity-test-from-obama.html

  57. Sueq………Re;9:07 PM
    Micheal Cannon has reiterrated what I have said all along. Armed revolt against the Fed is what I would say “on the horizon”, at least this is my own personal reasoning. As I have also said many times in the past “If the FED is unwilling to be constrained by our laws then we can conclude that we are not bound by any laws either.,Kicheal Cannon mentioned the words of Abraham Lincoln who said that it is sometimes necessary for a people to throw off a tyrannical governmentvia armed revolt. This is also words that are included in the Declaration of Independence.I invite everyone to thoroughly read the Declaration of Independence. I personally believe that since all avenues of peaceful resolution have been blocked by our corrupted DOJ the latter avenue CANNOT BE BLOCKED BY ANYONE ….not even the POTUS.

  58. …………..and the one remaining avenue of resolution is FAST becoming the ONLY avenue of resolution. If Americans do not have the courage to stand up and fight for their FREEDOM then they DESERVE TO LOSE IT . This too is fast becoming a PROBABILITY. TAKE YOUR PICK.

  59. If armed conflict would actually begin ,there would be thousands who would flock to the FRONT,ARMED TO THE TEETH,, and with a reasonable knowledge of how and when to use their weapons. In addition it is very doubtful that the upper echelon of the military services would be able to stop a mass exodus of all military servicemen to fight alongside of the civilian quarter,and following this the conclusion of the revolt would come very quickly with the arrest and imprisonment of ALL the perpetrators of the tyranny.

  60. …………..Keep in mind that if the POTUS and his slimey friends who now permeate the Federal government,have NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW OF OUR LAND,then we too are free to IGNORE the law…..even MARTIAL LAW….simply because both sides are LAWLESS. This allows the PEOPLE to ram the martial law up the anuses of those who attempt to impose it. This is the basis to my reasoning and has been for many years.

  61. ………for both sides…”When you commit to lawlessness, then you had better expect to operate under that banner until you are either DEAD,or IN PRISON, because the other side will be operating under the same premise. …in short revolutionary war.

    BYE BYE……….see ya later! Godbless

  62. BUCKLE YOUR SEAT BELTS: It’s Time for the Anus-Clenching Adventures of Inspector Issa

    http://directorblue.blogspot.de/2013/12/buckle-your-seat-belts-for-anus.html?m=1

  63. oldsailor, I have been comprising quotes from many in history that I admire (James Madison, Ben Franklin, Winston Churchill, Maggie Thatcher, Dwight Eisenhower etc.), as well as some that I don’t (Marx Lenin, Hitler etc.). Also from some that were just plain funny (Mark Twain, Will Rogers Groucho Marx, etc).

    I’m thinking about collecting your best quotes also. And I think you would be in a category of your own. You are truly unique (not in a bad way!) You have the ability to make us laugh, cry, be angry and also teach us.

    Please take good care.

  64. From Groucho Marx of all people….

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”

  65. SueQ (12:12pm
    Good one by Groucho Marx!

    I have to share a quote (anonymous source) about government aid:
    “Government aid is like giving yourself a blood transfusion by taking blood from one arm, putting in the other arm, and spilling half of it in the process.”

    An old friend shared that with me a long time ago.

  66. Hey everybody…here is one for you to chew on! The RADICAL Socialist Vermont Senator is preparing to run for POTUS in 2016. Almost LAUGHABLE! But keep in mind …when Americans should have been laughing at Soetoro,they supported him,and now we are hearing even obots WHINING about healthcare. Let them WHINE THEY ASKED FOR what they are now GETTING HAR HAR. Good for what ails them! har har again.

  67. Sueq……
    I probably will not try to TEACH ANYONE,until I know all there is to know about everything. A friend once told me ” It is that which you learn after you already know it all that counts”.

  68. Sueq……..
    In my lifetime I have been told to take a LONG WALK on a SHORT pier a LOT of times. Perhaps that makes me UNIQUE ie (ALL WET). har har

  69. …….and now Soetoro and all his GOON SQUAD are once again trying to change laws that he himself signed into law,not very long ago. And in so doing is once again trying to violate the Constitution. I always thought that it is only the legislature that has the power to do that. Oh I nearly forgot…..the KNOW IT ALL snotnosed child wordsmiths,are saying that the Constitution MUST BE INTERPRETED so that they can make it mean whatever they want it to mean.

  70. Pete……
    Do you remember the words of Msssssss. Pelosi? She stood before the Senate and said that OBAMACARE WAS IRONCLAD, and it will never need any changes. To her I offer a hearty har har de har har. Yep UP is DOWN where she is concerned. I think she paled around with Jane Fonda,and Msssssssss.Feinstein too much back in the 60s,and done to much LSD.(fantasy drug).

  71. bye bye Have a great day if you can! We might not have very many in the future Godbless

  72. oldsailor81 | December 4, 2013 at 3:41 pm |

    Sueq……
    I probably will not try to TEACH ANYONE…..
    ++++++++++++++++++

    To late friend…. you already have.

  73. Cabby,

    I love your quote also…

    “Government aid is like giving yourself a blood transfusion by taking blood from one arm, putting in the other arm, and spilling half of it in the process.”

  74. SueQ,

    Way to go Lady! Sounds like you have the ability of collection to possibly put this into book form.

    p.s. I get the first Autograph copy

  75. oldsailor81 | December 4, 2013 at 3:41 pm |

    I probably will not try to TEACH ANYONE,until I know all there is to know about everything. A friend once told me ” It is that which you learn after you already know it all that counts”.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I teach in my field, but I certainly don’t know it all, and never will. And no one else will either. If I wait until I know “everything”, I will die wanting.

  76. Let me add to my last comment:

    I teach in my field, but I certainly don’t know it all, and never will. And no one else will either. If I wait until I know “everything”, I will die wanting, and never have taught anything.

    Just me…

  77. A must read:

    Making a List and Checking it Twice — Obama OBOTS Compiling an Enemies List This Christmas Season.

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/12/cbl-project/

  78. Cash for Insurance Clunkers: The Obama administration has filed notice in the Federal Register, laying the groundwork to bail out insurance companies who are providing exchange policies. Those companies will incur much higher costs next year because of Obama’s latest political deception encouraging insurers not to cancel tens-of-millions of additional policies, per the O’Care mandate, after January 1. Obama wants insurers to maintain those policies until after the 2014 election — a cynical move to avoid additional midterm Democrat losses, temporarily making good on his “keep your insurance plan” lies. However, healthier Americans are likely to keep their policies for another year, while exchange policy providers would be loaded up with unhealthy consumers. Patriot Post

  79. Certain groups of people in this country are not required to sign up for the ACA, also known as usurpercare. Muslims, and Amish, in this country are immune, and don’t have to sign up, to be taxed. This makes the ACA unconstitutional, since all people must be taxed equally or the tax is unconstitutional.

  80. Good morning CW et al,

    Bob,

    I agree, and wonder why they have not sought any remedy from the Supreme Court? Obama cannot pick and choose which laws he deems enforceable or rule by fiat. I am tired of hearing them “complain” about it.

    Also, I am waiting for someone with standing to challenge the fact (as you mentioned) exemptions from the taxes built on race/religion while others are not. This I believe will eventually go before the Supreme Court. The Republicans better quickly move to get a ruling so that Obama cannot put this off and destroy the Democrats in 2014.

    I guess we’ll see what they do.

  81. Good morning William, et al.

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