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Impeach Obama billboard, OshKosh Wisconsin, Highway 41, FOX 11, Businessmen concerned about tax and spend politics, All in favor say aye

All in favor say aye!

 

From Fox 11 in OshKosh, Wisconsin, February 15, 2010.

“OSHKOSH – The Menasha attorney identified by Jones Sign Co. as paying for a controversial billboard along Highway 41 in Oshkosh has responded.
The following is a copy of an e-mail sent to FOX 11 Saturday night by attorney Thomas Wroblewski, regarding a billboard that begins with the phrase “Impeach Obama.”
“This email is intended to confirm the following:

The billboard in Oshkosh that says, in part, ‘Impeach Obama’, does not contain my personal statement and is not my personal billboard. The billboard was purchased by a limited liability company that I represent.”

Read more:

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/politics/attorney-responds-about-impeach-obama-billboard

Thanks to commenter Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco.

Pastor James Manning accuses Columbia University of treason, Obama in Afghanistan, Obama hides college records, Manchurian candidate, Harvard paid from Middle East money, Obama Columbia Sundial article, 1983, Dr Manning finds no record, Why has Obama employed legions of private and government attorneys?

“Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of Americans

Most of what we know about Barack Obama comes from Chicago corruption trial transcripts, Illinois records such as the IL bar and internet data that has not yet been scrubbed. Obama has kept hidden most of the records of his life.

Obama certainly has a connection to Columbia University. Obama was given a diploma and grades from Columbia sufficient to allow him to enter Harvard. Since Obama has employed many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records, we have no proof of his grades or even his attendance and graduation. Also disturbing is the fact that a Middle Eastern source apparently paid for his Harvard education.
Middle East money pays for Obama Harvard education

And don’t forget, Obama first made contact with Tony Rezko, the convicted Chicago corruption figure with long time ties to Obama and many Middle East ties, while attending Harvard.
Pastor Dr. James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem, New York City is accusing Columbia University of treason. Pastor Manning states that Obama was training in Afghanistan instead of attending Columbia. Dr. manning further states that Columbia University covered for Obama.

Watch the entire video here:

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=3711

What do we know of Obama being enrolled in, graduating from or otherwise being associated with Columbia University?

Prescious little!

Here is an article that is credited to Obama from the Columbia University Sundial in 1983. 

“BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY”

“Most students at Columbia do not have first hand knowledge of war.  Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds through television, film, and print. 

The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents’ wartime memories, or incorporation into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer or a Coppola.  But the taste of war – the sounds and chill, the dead bodies – are remote and far removed.”

” This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament and world order.”

“This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial.  “Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than ten minutes.”
“At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration.  The law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close.  Yale, Wesleyan, and Swathmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid.  SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.

 
Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply.  “Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of prosecution, they would not have registered.”  A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures, on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared.  Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulation in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts.  An estimated half-million registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.”
Alleged 1983 Obama Columbia article

Did Barack Obama write this article?

Was Obama influenced by someone or some government?

Was Obama attending Columbia University when this article was printed?

Why was the first sentence “Most students at Columbia do not have first hand knowledge of war.”?

 

There is very little else to indicate that Obama was actively enrolled as a student at Columbia University. This is supposedly a roommate, Sohale Siddiqi.

There are some references to an address on the East Side of New York, but no one living there has a remembrance of Obama.

So what else about Obama and his past looks suspicious in regard to Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Soviet Union, etc.

The Citizen Wells blog presented a four part series in May 2009, Obama, the Manchurian Candidate.

Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 1

“For over a year, many people have wondered about the puppeteers behind the scenes controlling Barack Obama and directing his socialist agenda. Many have used the description of Manchurian Candidate when referring to Obama and his dubious past and radical, socialist, leftist ties.

The best documented aspect of Obama’s past as it relates to possible ties with socialist and communist countries, is his strong, long time ties to socialists, leftists and radicals. Here are a few of the more blatant ones.”
Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 1

Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 2

“And as the Columbia News Service reported, the Young Communist League has mobilised to campaign for Obama: doubtless the Democratic Party is less than anxious to divulge to the nation this particular affiliation of these young activists who are helping it get out the Democratic vote.”

“In 1982 testimony, FBI assistant director for intelligence Edward J. O’Malley testified that the CPUSA has been ‘one of the most loyal and pro-Soviet Communist Parties in the world and has unfalteringly accepted Soviet direction and funding over the years.’ The recent book, Comrade J, based on interviews with a Russian spymaster at the United Nations, documents that Soviet intelligence operations against the U.S. continued even as the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia emerged in its place.”
Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 2

Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 3

“Communist Goals (1963)
 

Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963″
Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 3
 

Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 4

“Was Barack Obama groomed by Soviet and Russian communists to be a Manchurian Candidate?

Did Tom Fife (or whatever name he has) relate a real tale of learning about Barack Obama from Russians during a vist to Russia in 1992?

Here is the essay by Tom Fife. Real or not it is completely believable based on what we know about the past and actions of Barack Hussein Obama.
Oct 14, 2008
The First Time I Heard of Barack      
Written by Thomas Fife   
by Tom Fife

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of”
Obama, Manchurian Candidate Part 4

There are multiple reasons why Obama is not eligible to be president under the US Constitution. One is that his father was a British citizen. Without elaborating on the significance of this, if you are not well versed on this subject, start by reading the US Constituiton. The founding fathers used this wording for a reason:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”

That had to be included to make the founding fathers eligible due to their ties to England.

That being said, we still do not know where Obama was born. His college records also will tell the tale. That is why Obama is keeping the tell tale documents hidden.

Obama should be arrested for treason.

Obama does not have to be impeached because per the 20th amendment to the US Constitution, he was not eligible.

We have a Usurper in the White House.

Does Paster James Manning ‘s allegation seem so far fetched now?

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Article II, Sec. 1, cl. 5 of the US Constitution

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .”

From the 20th Amendment to the US Constitution.

“or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until
a President shall have qualified;”

December 7, 2009

Attention: Proof positive for Americans of the left, center and right.

It is not a conspiracy theory. Using the term “birther” in a condescending, Orwellian manner to discredit decent, hard working Americans who believe that the US Constitution is the law of the land, will not be tolerated.

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

2. Barack Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and a British citizen.  “natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” was explicitly written to deal with the issue of foreign allegiances at the time of the writing of the US Constitution.

3. Barack Obama’s citizenship and allegiance was further tainted when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and Obama became an Indonesian citizen.

4. Some combination of the above allowed Obama to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when travel there was restricted to US citizens.

5. The only document presented by the Obama camp is a Hawaii COLB. There has been no substantiation that it is authentic and it does not establish country of birth. As Lou Dobbs stated, “It is a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper.”

6. All other documentation, all school records, that would establish country of birth have been kept hidden and restricted.

7. No authentic documentation has been presented to establish that Barack Obama was born in the US.

8. The records of all hospitals in Hawaii have been searched. There is no record of Stanley Ann Obama ever having given birth to a child.

9. Barack Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya has stated on multiple occasions that she was present at Obama’s birth in Mombasa.

10. Others have stated, including multiple family members, officials and press, that Obama was born in Kenya.

This has been presented in a manner that a fifth grader can understand. However, if you have any questions, please contact me on this blog.

Failure to learn more about and understand this critical issue and take appropriate measures can only be construed as apathy,  ignorance or having an un American agenda. This includes the Mainstream Media and the Fox network.

Lou Dobbs and Sarah Palin believe Obama’s birth certificate is a fair question.

Proof Positive

Why?

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

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Article II, Sec. 1, cl. 5 of the US Constitution

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .”

From the 20th Amendment to the US Constitution.

“or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until
a President shall have qualified;”

December 2, 2009

Attention: American citizens, modern day Patriots

It is not a conspiracy theory. Using the term “birther” in a condescending, Orwellian manner to discredit decent, hard working Americans who believe that the US Constitution is the law of the land, will not be tolerated.

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

2. Barack Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and a British citizen.  “natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” was explicitly written to deal with the issue of foreign allegiances at the time of the writing of the US Constitution.

3. Barack Obama’s citizenship and allegiance was further tainted when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and Obama became an Indonesian citizen.

4. Some combination of the above allowed Obama to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when travel there was restricted to US citizens.

5. The only document presented by the Obama camp is a Hawaii COLB. There has been no substantiation that it is authentic and it does not establish country of birth. As Lou Dobbs stated, “It is a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper.”

6. All other documentation, all school records, that would establish country of birth have been kept hidden and restricted.

7. No authentic documentation has been presented to establish that Barack Obama was born in the US.

8. The records of all hospitals in Hawaii have been searched. There is no record of Stanley Ann Obama ever having given birth to a child.

9. Barack Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya has stated on multiple occasions that she was present at Obama’s birth in Mombasa.

10. Others have stated, including multiple family members, officials and press, that Obama was born in Kenya.

This has been presented in a manner that a fifth grader can understand. However, if you have any questions, please contact me on this blog.

Failure to learn more about and understand this critical issue and take appropriate measures can only be construed as apathy,  ignorance or having an un American agenda. This includes the Mainstream Media and the Fox network.

To: The American People.

As many of you are aware, this blog has been issuing a challenge to Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin and others with influence to ask a simple question about Barack Obama. We must continue to keep the message in front of them. But as you know, much of what has been accomplished thus far in the battle to save this country has been done by grassroots efforts. Tea parties and town hall meetings across the country have garnered the attention of congressmen and millions of our fellow citizens. This is the way we will take back this country.

What I state below is in no way intended to diminish the efforts of the many people involved in lawsuits, grand jury indictments or other endeavors which are aimed at upholding the US Constitution and forcing Barack Obama to prove his eligibility. The impact of carrying out the simple message will in fact facilitate the other efforts.

 It is in the spirit of putting our differences aside, uniting for the common cause of keeping the ship of state afloat, that I make the following request.

Six degrees of separation

“Six degrees of separation is the theory that anyone on the planet can be connected to any other person on the planet through a chain of acquaintances that has no more than five intermediaries. ”

Due to the Orwellian thought control of the Obama camp, complicit with the MSM and left wing internet sites, the perception of most Americans is that Obama was eligible to be president, was born in Hawaii and provided a legitimate Birth Certificate. That those questioning Obama are “birthers”, i.e., right wing conspiracy theorists, Obama haters, racists, etc.

That is why it is so important to put in front of the American People, something they can understand, something that is not complex or subject to debate. That is why I am pushing to inform the public of Obama employing many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate Birth Certificate & college records.

I am asking you to contact all of your family, friends, coworkers. Anyone in your sphere of influence and ask them to do the same. Keep it simple. Do not get pulled into controversial areas of plaintiff attorneys, personalities, case merits, judges and decisions.
Just stick with this no brainer simple question.

Why?

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

We all can make a difference.

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“Winston dialed “back numbers” on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of the Times, which slid out of
the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes’ delay.  The messages he had received referred to articles or news items
which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify.  For
example, it appeared from the Times of the seventeenth of March that Big Brother, in his speech of the previous day,
had predicted that the South Indian front would remain quiet but that a Eurasian offensive would shortly be launched in
North Africa.  As it happened, the Eurasian Higher Command had launched its offensive in South India and left North
Africa alone.  It was therefore necessary to rewrite a paragraph of Big Brother’s speech in such a way as to make
him predict the thing that had actually happened.”…George Orwell “1984”

 

The Citizen Wells blog has often quoted “1984” by George Orwell and for good reason. Early in 2008 it was apparent we had entered the age of Big Brother in the sheep’s clothing of the Obama camp. It was not just the Obama campaign that was orchestrating the totalitarian control of information. The Mainstream Media, paid or obediently following, presented information that glorified Obama, Big Brother, and belittled or attacked any opposition.

Right on cue, The Huffington Post, one of the paid arms of the Obama camp, has come to Obama’s rescue. The American people are increasingly unhappy with the Obama Administration and are certainly more open to learning the truth about him. Several weeks ago Lou Dobbs asked why doesn’t Obama produce a legitimate birth certificate. Now, in a recent interview, Sarah Palin has stated that she believes Obama’s birth certificate being questioned is fair game. The Obama camp Orwellian attacks are predictable as explained in this Citizen Wells article

“Sarah Palin Goes ‘Birther': Obama Birth Certificate ‘A Fair Question'”

“Sarah Palin declared on Thursday that the legitimacy of President Obama’s birth certificate is “rightfully” an issue with the American public, and that it is “fair game” for politicians to question Obama’s citizenship.”

“FactCheck.org has done the most comprehensive debunking of the various conspiracy theories related to Obama’s citizenship. Here is their bottom line:”

Read more:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/palin-goes-birther-obama_n_379634.html

Notice that The Huffington Post has tagged Sarah Palin with birther. Then they quote the lies and misinformation from FactCheck.org. Lou Dobbs is no fool. He acknowledged that the piece of paper (alleged COLB) provided by the Obama camp is just a piece of paper referring to another piece of paper. The Huffington Post will not ask the simple question, the required jounalistic question, the question that a fifth grader can understand.

Why?

Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

Why does The Huffington Post do the bidding of the Obama camp?

Here is one of the reasons.

Remember, the monetary payments below are only from Obama For America and those reported to the FEC. Based on the services provided by The Huffington Post to the Obama camp, the actual total paid should be significantly higher.

DISBURSEMENTS BY PAYEE

OBAMA FOR AMERICA

 

2008 year end

Huffingtonpost.com   55,354.00

2009 third quarter

Huffingtonpost.com    5,000.00

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/

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Article II, Sec. 1, cl. 5 of the US Constitution

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .”

From the 20th Amendment to the US Constitution.

“or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until
a President shall have qualified;”

December 2, 2009

Attention: Sarah Palin

It is not a conspiracy theory. Using the term “birther” in a condescending, Orwellian manner to discredit decent, hard working Americans who believe that the US Constitution is the law of the land, will not be tolerated.

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

2. Barack Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and a British citizen.  “natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” was explicitly written to deal with the issue of foreign allegiances at the time of the writing of the US Constitution.

3. Barack Obama’s citizenship and allegiance was further tainted when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and Obama became an Indonesian citizen.

4. Some combination of the above allowed Obama to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when travel there was restricted to US citizens.

5. The only document presented by the Obama camp is a Hawaii COLB. There has been no substantiation that it is authentic and it does not establish country of birth. As Lou Dobbs stated, “It is a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper.”

6. All other documentation, all school records, that would establish country of birth have been kept hidden and restricted.

7. No authentic documentation has been presented to establish that Barack Obama was born in the US.

8. The records of all hospitals in Hawaii have been searched. There is no record of Stanley Ann Obama ever having given birth to a child.

9. Barack Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya has stated on multiple occasions that she was present at Obama’s birth in Mombasa.

10. Others have stated, including multiple family members, officials and press, that Obama was born in Kenya.

This has been presented in a manner that a fifth grader can understand. However, if you have any questions, please contact me on this blog.

Failure to learn more about and understand this critical issue and take appropriate measures can only be construed as apathy,  ignorance or having an un American agenda. This includes the Mainstream Media and the Fox network.

Sarah Palin was interviewed by RustyHumphries recently. Listen to Palin’s response to the Question about Barack Obama’s birth certificate at approx 6:45.

To: Sarah Palin

Thank you for your service, for looking out for the best interests of America and the American people. And thank you for not dismissing the Obama eligibility and birth certificate issue.

Sarah, the American people want this simple question asked:

Why?

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

Governor Palin, will you do this for America?

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Article II, Sec. 1, cl. 5 of the US Constitution

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .”

From the 20th Amendment to the US Constitution.

“or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until
a President shall have qualified;”

December 2, 2009

Attention: Lou Dobbs

It is not a conspiracy theory. Using the term “birther” in a condescending, Orwellian manner to discredit decent, hard working Americans who believe that the US Constitution is the law of the land, will not be tolerated.

1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.

2. Barack Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and a British citizen.  “natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” was explicitly written to deal with the issue of foreign allegiances at the time of the writing of the US Constitution.

3. Barack Obama’s citizenship and allegiance was further tainted when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and Obama became an Indonesian citizen.

4. Some combination of the above allowed Obama to travel to Pakistan in 1981 when travel there was restricted to US citizens.

5. The only document presented by the Obama camp is a Hawaii COLB. There has been no substantiation that it is authentic and it does not establish country of birth. As Lou Dobbs stated, “It is a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper.”

6. All other documentation, all school records, that would establish country of birth have been kept hidden and restricted.

7. No authentic documentation has been presented to establish that Barack Obama was born in the US.

8. The records of all hospitals in Hawaii have been searched. There is no record of Stanley Ann Obama ever having given birth to a child.

9. Barack Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya has stated on multiple occasions that she was present at Obama’s birth in Mombasa.

10. Others have stated, including multiple family members, officials and press, that Obama was born in Kenya.

This has been presented in a manner that a fifth grader can understand. However, if you have any questions, please contact me on this blog.

Failure to learn more about and understand this critical issue and take appropriate measures can only be construed as apathy,  ignorance or having an un American agenda. This includes the Mainstream Media and the Fox network.

To: Lou Dobbs

First of all, thank you for your common sensed based comments and questions about Barack Obama avoiding presenting a legitimate Birth Certificate and referring to the Hawaii COLB as a piece of paper referring to another piece of paper.

Yesterday, December 2, 2009, I sent you an email and then called in to your show. I told the call screener about the email and held on the line for approximately 15 minutes until I was disconnected. Here is the email I sent:

“Mr. Dobbs.
First of all I want to thank you on behalf of millions of Americans for stating the obvious
about Barack Obama and his eligibility.
Your statements about the HI COLB being a piece of paper referring to another piece of
paper and asking why Obama does not present a legitimate birth certificate were long overdue
and a breathe of fresh air.
Now I am asking you to take this to the next level.
Ask one simple no brainer question:
 
“Why has Obama employed legions of private and government attorneys to avoid presenting
a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”
 
I promise you, you will be a bigger hero.
Respectfully,
Wells”

This is another simple, no brainer question that a fifth grader can understand and arrive at the obvious conclusion on.

Mr Dobbs, your fellow Americans and listeners are asking that you make this simple gesture.

Our forefathers pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to provide the luxury for us to have this struggle.