William Cellini status hearing January 11, 2012, New trial for Cellini?, Juror Candy Chiles enough to overturn conviction?

William Cellini status hearing January 11, 2012, New trial for Cellini?, Juror Candy Chiles enough to overturn conviction?

“Why was Obama promoting Capri Capital and other investment firms at the same time that Rezko, Levine and Cellini were shaking them down?”…Citizen Wells

“I just think it’s very, very disturbing that we have these pay-to-play allegations going on for years.”…Patrick Fitzgerald

“There is enough corruption in Illinois so that all it takes is someone who is serious about finding it to uncover it. If a U.S. attorney is not finding corruption in Illinois, they’re not seriously looking for it.”…Northwestern Law Professor James Lindgren

***  Update Below ***

William Cellini, who was convicted of 2 counts of conspiracy to commit extortion and aiding and abetting the solicitation of a bribe on November 1, 2011,  is scheduled for a status hearing  on January 11, 2012 in the courtroom of Judge James Zagel.

Daily Calendar

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 (As of 01/11/12 at 05:46:42 AM )

Honorable James B. Zagel                    Courtroom 2503 (JBZ)

1:08-cr-00888   USA v. Cellini                         02:00   Status Hearing

http://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/home/DailyCal/0.htm

Will Bill Cellini get a new trial?
From the Chicago Tribune January 7, 2012.

“Cellini juror defiantly denies bias
Woman who failed to disclose her criminal past is openly hostile to defense attorney”

“In between colorful tirades aimed at William Cellini’s lawyer Friday, a juror in the Springfield power broker’s case acknowledged that she misled the court about her criminal past during jury selection but said she followed the judge’s orders to be fair-minded during the trial.

Candy Chiles, a 50-year-old child care provider from the South Side, made no attempt to hide her disdain for the attorney, Dan Webb, during a daylong hearing aimed at determining whether her equivocations masked a bias toward the judicial process. At one point, she shouted at Webb to sit down because he was getting on her nerves.

“Don’t make a fool out of me,” she said. “I sat here for five weeks and watched the way you work. I know what you’re doing.”

Heated responses are rare in the staid federal courthouse, where decorum typically prevails. And such daggers are certainly seldom thrown at Webb, a former U.S. attorney who is considered to be one of the nation’s top lawyers.

Chiles, however, said she resented being used as a scapegoat in Cellini’s efforts to get his conviction overturned.

“You’re trying to see if I’m a liar so you can get him off?” Chiles said as her voice choked with emotion. “Leave me alone! Leave me alone!”

U.S. District Judge James Zagel cut that outburst short by ordering a 90-minute recess. Chiles quickly walked out of the courtroom, shaking her head and muttering about the defense team.

It was one of her many blowups at Webb during his pointed, two-hour examination, which centered on whether Chiles knew she was being untruthful when she told the court she had not been arrested or convicted of a crime. He also questioned whether Chiles misled the court when she said she had never been involved in a civil lawsuit, despite being sued in four eviction proceedings.

Chiles repeatedly said she didn’t know that those counted as lawsuits.

“Do not do me like this,” she said from the jury box in Zagel’s courtroom. “I am not a criminal. I didn’t steal anything. … Damn you.”

Zagel — who did not order background checks on potential jurors before the high-profile trial — called the hearing to determine if Chiles’ false answers denied Cellini a fair trial. He is expected to hear arguments from both the defense and prosecution later this month before ruling.

Zagel acknowledged that Chiles hadn’t been truthful in her answers to the court during jury selection.

“I think it’s pretty clear … you did not give complete answers to these questions,” the judge said. “In a way, you did not follow the instructions of the court to answer truthfully.”

Prosecutors did not question Chiles during the hearing but made several successful objections to questions Webb asked about her past. Chiles smiled at them and said “thank you” as she left the courtroom after questioning of her ended.

Chiles, who indicated she never wanted to be picked for jury duty, said that she didn’t reveal a 2000 drug conviction because she had put the incident behind her.

“It’s in my past. I never mention it at all, that foolishness in my life,” she said.

Chiles also did not tell the court about a felony DUI conviction in 2008 and an assault arrest in 1994. She initially told the judge that she didn’t know why she failed to disclose those cases but later said that she was confused and nervous during jury selection.

But to overturn a conviction, the defense must prove that the juror had bias or prejudice toward the judicial process. Chiles insisted she had been fair to Cellini and had followed all other jury instructions.

Cellini’s lawyers are seeking a new trial based in part on revelations in a Nov. 11 Tribune story that Chiles failed to disclose two felony convictions.”

Read more:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-cellini-juror-hearing-0107-20120107,0,4264353.story

Cellini background info from Citizen Wells January 5, 2012

“William Cellini, who was convicted of 2 counts of conspiracy to commit extortion and aiding and abetting the solicitation of a bribe on November 1, 2011, is scheduled for a evidentiary hearing on Friday,January 6, 2012 in the courtroom of Judge James Zagel. The Mainstream media has done it’s part in conjunction with the Justice Department to keep Obama out of this story.”

***  Update January 11, 2012 5:45 ET  ***
The Cellini status hearing has been rescheduled.
Friday, January 13, 2012 (As of 01/11/12 at 03:47:53 PM )
1:08-cr-00888   USA v. Cellini                         11:15   Status Hearing
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75 responses to “William Cellini status hearing January 11, 2012, New trial for Cellini?, Juror Candy Chiles enough to overturn conviction?

  1. Truthbetold11

    Running out the clock is all obama and crew want

  2. Judge Zagel should be ashamed of himself putting this women through this, she doesn’t deserve it…The federal courts shouldn’t send out jury notices to felons and for big cases ALWAYS run background checks…When a juror checks off the box for a DUI or conviction, excuse them don’t drag them up in front of a room filled with people and interrogate them like they are the one on trial…Wouldn’t it be refreshing if Judge Zagel just owned this mistake, said he was sorry and ordered a retrial???

    Oh ya…Good Morning All!!!

  3. Good morning Bessie, et al.

  4. Good morning all.

    This is a bit off topic, but well worth reading. A some may be aware, a few days ago, a citizen letter was sent to the Texas GOP by way of its “contact” form to Chairman Steve Munisteri: While the letter cites reasons Obama does not meet the Natural Born Citizenship status, it is the response from the Texas GOP Chairman Steve Munisteri that is frankly quite shocking and defies common sense.

    Here is the GOP chairman response:

    ……”From: Republican Party of Texas
    Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:19 PM
    To: thephileous@hotmail.com
    Subject: RE: New TexasGOP.org Contact

    Actually Don, Federal statute changed in 1934 by amendment to the Immigration and Naturalization act so that a Foreign born person has immediate derivative citizenship and is considered a citizen at birth if they are born to one parent who is a USA citizen and thus are considered” Natural Born”. Note Constitution does not say “Native Born” which would require being born in USA. Natural just means at time of birth.. This is why John McCain, George Romney and Lowell Wiecker could all run for President despite being born in Panama, Mexico and France. When Obama was born the act was amended in 1952 requiring at least one parent to be US citizen and live in USA at least 10 years before birth and 5 years after 14. If Obama’s mother met this requirement he is considered “Natural Born” USA citizen even if born in Kenya.”
    __________________

    There are of course a couple of problems with the GOP Chairman Mr. Steve Munisteri conclusions. First, no federal immigration statue can over-ride a U.S. Supreme Court decision pertaining to citizenship. At the risk of not boring you to death, I will let you good people look up case law and citations. A good place to start is Mario Apuzzo’s website.

    Second problem is that even if the Texas GOP Chairman Mr. Steve Munisteri holds that the amended 1934 immigration statue (1952), which in fact does hold requiring at least one parent to be US citizen and live in USA at least 10 years before birth and 5 years after 14, then Texas GOP Chairman Mr. Steve Munisteri fails his own argument. Apparently he questions himself by stating “If” Obama’s mother met this requirement…

    The answer is under the pretense definition given by him (Mr. Munisteri) Obama’s mother would have had to been at the minimum of 19 years of age in order to convey U.S. Citizenship to her son Obama or it follow his fathers. Through many FOIA requests released, we know for a fact that Standly Ann Dunham was only 18 at the time of Obama’s birth, not 19.

    So what will the Chairman do now?

  5. Good Morning.

    My last comment got thrown to Moderation. It may have been due to my pc running auto updates in the background.

    Thanks,

  6. Good Morning!

    Saw this today and it is a reminder that we all will need to put differences aside to stop Obama or the clock will move all the way to midnight.

    ‘Doomsday Clock’ Ticks One Minute Toward Destruction

    By Stephanie Pappas

    Published January 10, 2012

    | FoxNews.com

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/10/doomsday-clock-may-tick-toward-destruction/#ixzz1j9qPpefF

  7. We don’t need to agree yet but before November 2012.

  8. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    William – You would think that U.S. Senate Resolution 511 would have solved all these eligibility questions.

    “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to AMERICAN CITIZENS on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

    LOOK WHO SUBMITTED IT -

    Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text

  9. “Why was Obama promoting Capri Capital and other investment firms at the same time that Rezko, Levine and Cellini were shaking them down?”…Citizen Wells
    *****************************************************
    I think this explains why Obama was in almost daily contact with Rezko, plotting these “shake downs”.

  10. Bessie | January 11, 2012 at 8:13 am |

    Judge Zagel should be ashamed of himself putting this women through this, she doesn’t deserve it…The federal courts shouldn’t send out jury notices to felons and for big cases ALWAYS run background checks…When a juror checks off the box for a DUI or conviction, excuse them don’t drag them up in front of a room filled with people and interrogate them like they are the one on trial…Wouldn’t it be refreshing if Judge Zagel just owned this mistake, said he was sorry and ordered a retrial?
    ******************************************************
    Bessie, I have a feeling that this juror was “placed” on that jury on purpose. Now the judge has an excuse to repay the good old boy network, grant a mistrial, and kick the can down the road, and to borrow a phrase from Truthbetold 11, “Running out the clock is all obama and crew want”.

  11. Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | January 11, 2012 at 9:22 am |

    William – You would think that U.S. Senate Resolution 511 would have solved all these eligibility questions.

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    True.

    And the citizen author mentioned that in his letter as well.

  12. Profound Paragraph on The Constitutional Crisis
    Posted on January 8, 2012 By; David LaRocque

    When we have an ineligible president, an unconstitutional monetary system, unconstitutional czars, unresponsive elected representatives, a thoroughly corrupt federal court system, undeclared wars in violation of the Constitution, an unconstitutional tax system, numerous federal agencies and departments that undertake roles far exceeding the limitations of the Constitution, serious and growing abridgement of specific constitutional rights originating from our Creator and guaranteed by the Constitution, unconstitutional infringement of the rights and prerogatives of the states on a massive scale, unconstitutional land grabs by an out-of-control federal government, outrageous abuses of governmental powers in a wide variety of areas (including the infamous TSA operation, the EPA, the IRS, the DHS, the ATF, the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, the Forest Service, the Fish and Wildlife Service as examples), a socialist welfare scheme that is both unconstitutional and is bankrupting the country, no federal budget for three years running, a “First Lady” who desires to be addressed as “Your Excellency” and has a personal staff paid for by the taxpayers as large as some small agencies, an administration overrun with individuals committed by their Marxist political philosophy to the overthrow of the Constitution and the rule of law, a so-called “Congressional Research Service” which manufactures lies intended to deceive the American people, a Department of Justice that is so corrupt that it defies comprehension and acts as if it is above the law, a corrupt Congress whose members openly exploit their positions of trust for personal financial and political gain, a Supreme Court with members who brazenly defy the obligation of recuse in the face of outrageous conflicts of interest, a Speaker of the House who proclaims that a bill must be passed before we can find out what is in it, unconstitutional “government sponsored enterprises” (including FNMA and Freddie Mac) which have incurred huge losses arising from politically-motivated policies and which losses were borne by the taxpayers while virtually destroying large sectors of the national economy, the passage of a plainly unconstitutional health care bill which will almost certainly destroy what is left of the economic vitality of the nation and insure the descent of the nation into a fiscal abyss from which there can be no recovery, election fraud on a massive scale, and on and on – well we just don’t have much of a Constitution left, in my opinion.

    Read more…http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/

  13. Harold Sorensen v. Alabama Democratic Party: Motion for Preliminary Injunction: Obama Ballot Access Lawsuit Filed

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/another-motion-for-preliminary.html

  14. So now the media has divulged itself into the communist family background of Santorum, but refused for 4 years to report on Obama’s direct family and friends communist party background?

    http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-communist-clan-113600418.html

  15. I just read where the SOCIALIST nation Greece has recognized the following as medical illnesses and a DISABILITY, and will be issuing payments to individuals suffering with these problems:

    Exhibitionists; kliptomanic; pyromanic; complusive gambler; fetishist; sadomasochist; and pedophiles.

    The (illnesses?) of pedophiles and pyromanic will receive a 35% disability check for their illness.

    In June of 2011, the OBOZO administration pledged to help bailout the Greece government with your tax dollars through the IMF. For those who can’t read between the lines this means; your taxes will be helping to pay those disability checks.

    NOW LET ME SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT::
    If I live in Greece, and I beat up my girlfriend, burn her house down, rape her 3 year old daughter, play silly games with her dog, and expose myself to her neighbors, then I will get at least a 35% disability check from my government? Or is that 35% disability for each of my illnesses?

    Boy, our pResident OBOZO sure can pick the right causes to champion !!!

    COMING SOON TO (socalist) AMERICA !

  16. rminnc | January 11, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    ++++++++++++++

    You are exactly correct!!

    My wife and I discussed this yesterday. And as you so eloquently stated “Coming soon to America”, were the words my wife also used.

    It is pathetic.

  17. MUST READ THIS URGENT WARNING EDITORIAL FROM MICHAEL SAVAGE TO THE USA AMERICAN CITIZEN’S!!

    EDITORIAL: “SAVAGE: IS OBAMA THE PUTIN OF AMERICA?”

    “THE TOPIC TODAY IS THE STREET.

    VERMIN ON WALL STREET

    WE’VE FOUND OUT THAT THE ORIGINAL SEED MONEY FOR THE COMMUNIST OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT WAS FROM GEORGE SOROS, THE MOST EVIL MANON EARTH. A MAN WITH THE DESIGNS TO RUN THE WORLD. A MAN WITH MORE POWER THAN MOST SOVEREIGN NATIONS. A MAN WITH MORE WEALTH THAN MOST SOVEREIGN NATIONS. FOR WHOM NO AMOUNT OF MONEY OR POWER WILL EVER BE ENOUGH. HE IS A TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE SOCIOPATH.

    [SOROS] IS DOCTOR EVIL INCARNATE. NOW MOST PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY BILLIONAIRES LIKE SOROS ARE SOCIALISTS, OR WORSE YET, WORLDWIDE COMMUNISTS. THEY CAN’T UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT THEY DON’T REALIZE IS THAT THE OLIGARCHS RAN RUSSIA.

    ALSO, LET’S NOT FORGET THIS: [SOROS] FUNDS LIBERAL CAUSES OR SOCIALIST OR RADICAL CAUSES LIKE OCCUPY.

    NOW MOST PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY BILLIONAIRES LIKE SOROS ARE SOCIALISTS, OR WORSE YET, WORLDWIDE COMMUNISTS. THEY CAN’T UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT THEY DON’T REALIZE IS THAT THE OLIGARCHS RAN RUSSIA.

    ALSO, LET’S NOT FORGET THIS: [SOROS] FUNDS LIBERAL CAUSES OR SOCIALIST OR RADICAL CAUSES LIKE OCCUPY WALL STREET WHILE HE MADE MORE MONEY THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON WALL STREET UNDER OBAMA. [SOROS] FUNDED THE STREET RABBLE SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DEFLECT ATTENTION AWAY FROM [OBAMA] AND FROM HIS CRONIES AND THROW IT UPON OTHERS – TO TRY TO BRING THEM DOWN TO KEEP THEM OFF OF [OBAMA'S] BACK.

    IN THE EX-SOVIET UNION, WHEN YELSTIN WAS IN POWER AND THEY WERE MOVING TOWARDS A SEMI-MARKET ECONOMY, ALMOST ALL THE ASSETS OF THE STATE OR THE NATION WERE GIVEN AWAY TO OLIGARCHS. SOME WERE MATH PROFESSORS WHO BECAME ZILLIONAIRES, THEY RECEIVED THE MONEY, THE GOLD INTERESTS, THE OIL INTERESTS, WHATEVER HEAVY INDUSTRIES THE STATE HAD BEEN RUNNING WERE GIVEN TO THEM. AND THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THE NEW OLIGARCHS OF RUSSIA COULD MAKE ALL THE MONEY THEY WANT SO LONG AS THEY KICKED A PORTION OF IT BACK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF RUSSIA THE RULING ELITE AND THEY DID NOT GET INTO POLITICS.

    REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO RUSSIAN OIL MIKHAIL KHODORKOVSKY WHEN HE BECAME A CRITIC OF PUTIN? HE WAS JAILED BY PUTIN AND IS STILL IN PRISON BECAUSE HE VIOLATED THE AGREEMENT. THE AGREEMENT WAS MAKE ALL THE MONEY YOU WANT, KICK BACK AS MUCH AS WE DEMAND. STAY OUT OF POLITICS. HE DID THE FIRST TWO, BUT HE DIDN’T DO THE THIRD. HES STILL IN PRISON SO FAR AS I KNOW. IT’S THE SAME IN AMERICA.

    OBAMA IS THE AMERICAN EQUIVALENT OF PUTIN WITHOUT THE INTEGRITY OF NATIONALISM. WITHOUT THE MACHISMO OF PUTIN, BUT WITH THE [VERY] SAME MENTALITY OF PUTIN. WE HAVE A NEW UNITED SOVIET STATES OF AMERICA. IT’S FRIGHTENING TO WATCH.”

    Read The Entire Urgent Editorial Here:
    http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/2011/10/is-obama-the-putin-of-america/

    * * * *

    “SAVAGE: ‘DICTATOR’ OBAMA ‘COMING OUT OF HIS CHRYSALIS’” “pRESIDENT’S RECENT BRAZEN ACTS ‘SHOWING HIS TRUE NATURE’”

    Read More Here: http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/savage-dictator-obama-coming-out-of-his-chrysalis

  18. “DWS: SOLYNDRA NOT OBAMA’S RESPONSIBILITY”

    Katie Pavlich
    News Editor, Townhall
    January 9, 2012

    Excerpt:

    “In the latest episode of the Debbie Wasserman-Schultz train wreck, the DNC spokeswoman is claiming President Obama isn’t responsible for the bankruptcy of Solyndra because he wasn’t he CEO of the company, ignoring that the administration gave millions in taxpayer dollars to the solar company they knew would be a failure. Not to mention, after the “green” company failed to provide long term jobs for the economy as promised, Solyndra senior executives walked away with bonuses after the collapse of the company. But don’t worry, President Obama had nothing to do with it.

    [...]

    “Obama wasn’t the CEO of Solyndra, but his administration made the decision to approve the $500 million loan to the company even after they were told bankruptcy was inevitable.”

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/01/09/dws_solyndra_not_obamas_responsibility

  19. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    bob strauss | January 11, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    Profound Paragraph on The Constitutional Crisis
    Posted on January 8, 2012 By; David LaRocque
    _________________________________________

    That article should be posted ONCE AN HOUR

    Read more…http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/

  20. “On conspiracies”

    “For four years now, Team Obama, the ObamaMedia and Obots have argued that Birthers, that evil, racist fringe group, have engaged in racist conspiracy theories because Barack Obama is black.

    1. What are the Birthers hiding? Answer: nothing.

    2. What is Obama hiding. Answer: everything!

    What follows is Team Obama’s conspiracy, documented.”

    http://theobamafile.websitetoolbox.com/post/On-conspiracies-5657393

  21. We’re a democracy and the voters have spoken so I will give my congratulations to Romney and Ron Paul for their wins in NH. Now SC should get very interesting.

  22. Sorry to sink your boat Tina……. but,

    WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, or was the last time I read our Constitution.

  23. “PROFOUND PARAGRAPH ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS”

    From: Greg Goss blogging at “Greg Goss’s Blog” http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/profound-paragraph-on-constitutional-crisis/

    Posted on January 8, 2012 By gregnh

    “When we have an ineligible president, an unconstitutional monetary system, unconstitutional czars, unresponsive elected representatives, a thoroughly corrupt federal court system, undeclared wars in violation of the Constitution, an unconstitutional tax system, numerous federal agencies and departments that undertake roles far exceeding the limitations of the Constitution, serious and growing abridgement of specific constitutional rights originating from our Creator and guaranteed by the Constitution, unconstitutional infringement of the rights and prerogatives of the states on a massive scale, unconstitutional land grabs by an out-of-control federal government, outrageous abuses of governmental powers in a wide variety of areas (including the infamous TSA operation, the EPA, the IRS, the DHS, the ATF, the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, the Forest Service, the Fish and Wildlife Service as examples), a socialist welfare scheme that is both unconstitutional and is bankrupting the country, no federal budget for three years running, a “First Lady” who desires to be addressed as “Your Excellency” and has a personal staff paid for by the taxpayers as large as some small agencies, an administration overrun with individuals committed by their Marxist political philosophy to the overthrow of the Constitution and the rule of law, a so-called “Congressional Research Service” which manufactures lies intended to deceive the American people, a Department of Justice that is so corrupt that it defies comprehension and acts as if it is above the law, a corrupt Congress whose members openly exploit their positions of trust for personal financial and political gain, a Supreme Court with members who brazenly defy the obligation of recuse in the face of outrageous conflicts of interest, a Speaker of the House who proclaims that a bill must be passed before we can find out what is in it, unconstitutional “government sponsored enterprises” (including FNMA and Freddie Mac) which have incurred huge losses arising from politically-motivated policies and which losses were borne by the taxpayers while virtually destroying large sectors of the national economy, the passage of a plainly unconstitutional health care bill which will almost certainly destroy what is left of the economic vitality of the nation and insure the descent of the nation into a fiscal abyss from which there can be no recovery, election fraud on a massive scale, and on and on – well we just don’t have much of a Constitution left, in my opinion.” – David LaRocque, (Ret.) Commander USNR

    “The above opinion is that of David LaRocque, a Vietnam veteran. David served in the U.S. Navy as a naval aviator. He has a B.S degree in metallurgical engineering and an MBA degree in finance/accounting. He retired from the U.S. Naval Reserve with the rank of Commander USNR, and is also a retired Trans World Airlines captain with 32 years of service in both domestic and international flying. As a plaintiff in the Barnett case, he attended all three hearings in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California in Santa Ana, CA presided over by Judge David O. Carter.

    In addition, LaRocque worked with several local colleagues on eligibility issues. He and two of his colleagues met on two occasions in the offices of their congressman, Rep. Brian Bilbray (Rep-CA 50) to discuss their concerns regarding Obama’s eligibility, once with Rep Bilbray himself. More recently, on June 9, 2011, they met with Mr. Steve Danon, Chief of Staff to Rep. Bilbray to discuss the issue of allegations of criminal acts committed by Obama in connection with the release of a fraudulent document purported to be an original long form Hawaiian birth certificate.”

    From: “Greg Goss’s Blog” http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/profound-paragraph-on-constitutional-crisis/

  24. P.S.

    There’s a BIG difference in a DEMOCRACY and a REPUBLIC…..check it out.

  25. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    A True Democracy is Mob Rule. We are a Constitutional Republic NOT A DEMOCRACY. There is no such thing as a Democratic Party. It is a Democrat Party. It is hard to believe that most Americans don’t understand the difference!

  26. Tina, you are wrong. This country is based on a Republic not a Democracy.
    Check your Constitution both Federal and State. No where does it read a “Democracy.”
    The people are being ignored and until we “All the People” stand up and put the beast back in its box, There will hell to pay. Only a few know the system and fight back, but the sheeple will be shaved and buried.

  27. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    This just in -

    “38,000 Farmers Sue Jon Corzine Over Missing Millions”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/farmers-sue-jon-corzine-missing-millions/story?id=15321298#.Tw3Rpm9SSw4

    It will now be a race to see what story will sink the O-Ship first.

    1 – The E legibility Question

    2 – MF Global $1.3 Billion money grab.

    PS – Obama wanted Corzine to be his Secretary of the Treasury and VP Biden said Corzine was the smartest man he ever knew!!

  28. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PPS – You will not hear anything concerning these two stories on MSNBC.

    “MSNBC IS THE RECTAL THERMOMETER FOR POTOMAC FEVER”

  29. H/T Jacqlyn Smith commenting at “Greg Goss’s Blog”
    http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/profound-paragraph-on-constitutional-crisis/

    Check out the videos Jacqlyn Smith has posted at the above link! Here is one:

    jacqlynsmith
    January 10, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Really awesome video…..

    Angel Robinson Says ‘Ron Paul Will Change You’

  30. Ms. Helga…..Now don’t you just know it would take an idiot like Mr. Obama to recognize Mr. Corzine as the smartest man he has ever known !

    I guess the old adage: “It takes one to know one”…. holds true here.

  31. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    rminnc – No – It was Obama who wanted Corzine to be Secretary of the Treasury. Biden said he (Corzine) was the smartest man he ever met.

  32. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Folks – I think I have figured it out. We have reached a Mexican- Standoff.

    Def. – “A Mexican standoff is most precisely a confrontation between three opponents, facing each other.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff

    Here are the two possibilities -

    A -The Executive Office – The Legislative – The Judicial

    B – The Democrat Party – The Republican Party – U.S. Citizenry

    NOW WHAT???

  33. OPPPSSSSS….Mr. Bill…sorry for the misread…” too err is human, too not admit it is stupid”.

    Anyway…that makes three idiots instead of two ! Old drunk Joe would never speak unless OBOZO told him what his magic teleprompter said !

  34. Obama State Ballot Challenge 2012 has posted a new item, ‘FRAUD IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
    PRIMARY!’

    Not only was Obama on the primary ballot illegally but…

    SURPRISE!

    VOTER FRAUD!

    NEW HAMPSHIRE LEADS THE WAY

    AS 2012 ELECTION WILL BE MORE CORRUPT THAN 2008!

    VIDEO: NH poll workers shown handing out ballots in dead peoples’ names

    MANCHESTER, N.H. — Video footage provided exclusively to The Daily Caller
    shows election workers in New Hampshire giving out ballots in the names of
    [...]

    You may view the latest post at
    http://obamaballotchallenge.com/fraud-in-new-hampshire-primary

  35. rminnc | January 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm |

    Ms. Helga…..Now don’t you just know it would take an idiot like Mr. Obama to recognize Mr. Corzine as the smartest man he has ever known !

    I guess the old adage: “It takes one to know one”…. holds true here.
    ***************************************
    At one time they tried to tell us Obama was the smartest guy on the planet, hell, his teleprompter is smarter than he is.

  36. Touche Bob touche….great point, maybe the teleprompter should run on the Democrat ticket this year !

  37. On Michael Savage’s Web Site Page 1: http://www.MichaelSavage.com

    “HOMELAND SECURITY MONITORS JOURNALISTS”

    Published January 7, 2012

    Excerpt:

    “Freedom of speech might allow journalists to get away with a lot in America, but the Department of Homeland Security is on the ready to make sure that the government is keeping dibs on who is saying what.

    Under the National Operations Center (NOC)’s Media Monitoring Initiative that came out of DHS headquarters in November, Washington has the written permission to retain data on users of social media and online networking platforms.

    Specifically, the DHS announced the NCO and its Office of Operations Coordination and Planning (OPS) can collect personal information from news anchors, journalists, reporters or anyone who may use “traditional and/or social media in real time to keep their audience situationally aware and informed.”

    According to the Department of Homeland Security’s own definition of personal identifiable information, or PII, such data could consist of any intellect “that permits the identity of an individual to be directly or indirectly inferred, including any information which is linked or linkable to that individual.” Previously established guidelines within the administration say that data could only be collected under authorization set forth by written code, but the new provisions in the NOC’s write-up means that any reporter, whether someone along the lines of Walter Cronkite or a budding blogger, can be victimized by the agency.”

    http://rt.com/usa/news/homeland-security-journalists-monitoring-321/

  38. Rush: Romney Admits He’s Like Obama
    quote)
    During an appearance on CBS today, Romney said his job-cutting actions at his Bain Capital investment firm were no different from Obama’s bailouts of the U.S. auto industry.

    “In the general election I’ll be pointing out that the president took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler – closed factories, closed dealerships laid off thousands and thousands of workers – he did it to try to save the business,” Romney said.

    In his analysis of the comment, Limbaugh explained, “Romney said what he did running Bain Capital was no different from what Barack Obama did bailing out the auto industry. Thud! Kerplunk! You’ve got to be kidding me.”
    For more:
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/rush-romney-admits-hes-just-like-obama/
    ***********************
    It seems that Romney had better get his talking points in order, because the Dems are going to use this issue against him big time. Maybe it is a good thing that this conversation be held now rather than later.

  39. Cabby, it is exactly what Obama did with GM and Chrysler EXCEPT for the fact that he used private capital and the free market to try to make companies profitable. There is a big difference when it is done in the private sector and when government sticks it big nose into private industry picking and choosing winners and losers.

    So while the mechanics may have been the same, there is a huge difference.

  40. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    Can someone explain to me how the Republican powers that be think that Romney can beat Obama in 2012, when he couldn’t even beat McCain in 2008?

    Romney is simply the “next man in line” for the GOP nomination.

    And if I may,

    I have voted Republican in 6 of the 8 elections I have been eligible to vote in (I voted for Ross Perot twice), and I’d like to state here that I am no longer a “Republican”.

    I am a CONSERVATIVE, and am joining the ranks of the independents.

    I do NOT agree with the Republican Party on a whole host of “issues”.

    The Party left me, I didn’t leave it.

    The Republcan Party of 2012 is the Democrat Party of 1960, and slowly continues it’s move to the left.

    But since we have a “closed” primary in Indiana, I have to declare, so I have no choice but to stay registered with the Republican Party.

  41. IB.
    I agree with much of what you say.
    Sadly, due to the more disgusting Democrat Party, we must do whatever is necessary to remove
    Obama & then consider other parties & candidates in 2016, if we/nation are still around.

  42. Paxson | January 11, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    Cabby, it is exactly what Obama did with GM and Chrysler EXCEPT for the fact that he used private capital and the free market to try to make companies profitable. There is a big difference when it is done in the private sector and when government sticks it big nose into private industry picking and choosing winners and losers.
    ***********************
    Paxson, I agee with you completely, but the point is that Romney is not prudent in comparing his efforts, using private capital, with those of Obama, who not only used taxpayer dollars but also his motives were suspect, too. I’m not so sure that Obama really cared about saving the businesses. It was more a matter of government control.

    Personally, I think that Romney had better make his intentions more clear as to how he really intends to stimulate the production of jobs. His efforts HAVE to be through the encouragement of small businesses by lowering taxes and decreasing the burden of overwhelming regulations, and creating an environment of trust in the business community.

    There are, no doubt, some folks out there that think he might try to use the same tactics nationally as he did at Bain, and that is not going to set well.

  43. Bob Strauss…………………….
    Well sir,I am back with a few additional tools in my chest with regard to the alleged Moderation Problem,but I won’t say anymore about it. What I do want to say is that with respect to your 10:21AM comment. Do you know that ALL of the problem with DC could be brought to an end in less than 15 minutes IF the people of our country was really motivated. All that is necessary is for ALL of the states to secede from the UNION at once and at the same stroke of the pen form a new federal government. Less than 15 minutes required. Everything would remain in place except ALL of the corrupt DOJ, Congress, and the (alleged) POTUS. Then all Constitutional laws need to be formally RE AFFIRMED.

  44. *** Update January 11, 2012 5:45 ET ***
    The Cellini status hearing has been rescheduled.

    Friday, January 13, 2012 (As of 01/11/12 at 03:47:53 PM )

    1:08-cr-00888 USA v. Cellini 11:15 Status Hearing

  45. to everybody…………………
    With a great deal of sadness I am witness to a very poor showing by Newt Gingrich. I am beginning to believe that while I still believe that he is right,what he has to say has fallen upon deaf ears. I see a mass of people who have been STEERED into believing that Romney can successfully beat the ILLEGAL POTUS. While I now am beginning to pray that he can, I HAVE grave doubts that he will accomplish it………and once again the American people will have been FOOLED into believing LEFT IS RIGHT,and UP is DOWN. FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU………FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME.

  46. Whoever gets the nomination, we need to get behind 100%. I will set my beliefs aside,and I WILL get behind the candidate 100%. There is going to be a necessity for deep PRAYER, as well. If our candidate LOSES America will be at the end of it’s existence,as we knew it.

  47. Old Salt, I have an open mind about all of the candidates. I’m not completely behind any of them at this point. This circular firing squad is killing us in our efforts to get Obama removed, however…

  48. I have been placed in moderation.(6:16 PM) I NOW KNOW that it is either being done by my IP or WordPress. I strongly suspect outside interference into everything that transpires on CW Blog. I strongly suspect CONTINUING MONITORING of EVERYTHING we type on our keyboards. This would be at the IP level. I heard long ago that this was going to happen………..thanks to the Patriot Act.

  49. Paxson……………..
    Good place to be………IN NO PARTICULAR CORNER. While I do like what Newt has to say,the handwriting on the wall is beginning to materialise,and as you and I both believe…….it is still too early in the game to be in any particular corner. I am only saying that based on what I have seen so far Gingrich seems to be on the decline. I think that S. Carolina will make or break both him and Santorum……perhaps even Ron Paul.

  50. BYE BYE,time for other things!

  51. oldsalt79 | January 11, 2012 at 6:02 pm |

    I agree with you 100%. I too have been very impressed with Newt. He always leaves me in awe in how he

    plans to change America back. I can see why the establishment Repubs are terrified of him. He will

    definitely make some big changes in DC if elected. Too many of the good ole boys are shakin in their

    boots.

    That being said, it looks like an easy run for Romney. He is winning the votes, while the “other than romney candidates

    are splitting up the conservative base. It will take all the others to drop (which won’t happen) for Newt to put any pressure

    whatsoever on Romney.

    Although I have said before, as long as we can take the Senate and defeat Obama, it won’t matter who wins the nomination.

    But, like you stated above, Romney may be just liberal enough to give us 4 more years of the same. No new constructive changes

    to the way DC operates. It will be business as usual, the powers in DC, will keep their vanity, raping the citizens along the way

    and then retire with lofty bank accounts.

    I almost feel like we are living in a parallel universe. All the hard work the tea party types have done to rally a true

    American sentiment and then we get a situation like this where the moderate so-called conservative will

    win because the others are sharing the rest of the true conservative base.

    The tea party factions have NOT come out in support of anyone yet. I don’t think romney is winning any of their

    souls.

    Perhaps Mitt has changed his ways. I guess time will tell. I just don’t think this country can sustain 4 more years

    of gridlock or a liberal mindset in government.

  52. I copied and pasted the above post. Don’t know why it was formatted like that, sorry.

  53. CONTACT:
    Michael Patrick Leahy
    michaelpatrickleahy@gmail.com
    615-243-6869
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Tea Party Leaders Launch ElectionDayTeaParty.com for 2012
    Celebrations Planned Nationwide

    Marking the Third Year of the Citizens’ Movement in February
    January 11, 2012 – Local tea party leaders from around the country today announced the launch of the ElectionDayTeaParty.com website, which will be the online information center for a series of national events that will get the tea party vote out in the November, 2012 election.
    The first national event of Election Day Tea Party 2012 will be a celebration of the Tea Party movement’s 3rd anniversary on February 25th, 26th, and 27th. On February 27, 2009, the Tea Party movement was launched with simultaneous tea parties in fifty cities which were attended by more than 30,000 tea partiers. This was immediately followed by Tax Day Tea Party on April 15, 2009, when over 1 million tea partiers participated in rallies held in more than 900 cities.

    “The purpose of this website,” said Mark West, President of the Chattanooga Tea Party, “is to let the country know that the Tea Party movement is focused like a laser beam on getting out the vote to support constitutional conservative candidates on the biggest Tea Party event of all – Election Day, November 6, 2012. In addition, we are re-affirming the movement’s three core values – Constitutionally Limited Government, Fiscal Responsibility, and Free Markets – so that the public will not be deceived by the false narratives about our movement that are constantly pushed out by the Left and the Democratic Party.”

    Patti Weaver, who organized the Pittsburgh Tea Party in February, 2009, added that “we want tea party supporters and open minded voters around the country to visit the site and sign up so they can participate in their local get-out-the-vote efforts.”

    Zan Green, organizer of the Birmingham, Alabama Rainy Day Patriots.org Tea Party in February 2009, said, “The first major event scheduled as part of the year long Election Day Tea Party project will be a national celebration of the 3rd Anniversary of the movement, which will be held in dozens of cities around the country over the February 25th, 26th, and 27th weekend. In Birmingham, we plan on coordinating our event with local radio host Dr. Gina Loudon.”

    Bill Hennessy, organizer of the St. Louis Tea Party Coalition in February 2009, said “The website will be a place for volunteers who want to help get out the vote can sign up. We will put them in touch with their local tea party get out the vote efforts.”

    Teri Adams of the Independence Hall Tea Party said “The celebrations won’t be rallies, but rather celebrations of the Tea Party’s three core values, American Constitutionalism, and direct citizen engagement.

    Each participating local tea party will have its unique method of celebration. In Philadelphia, we’ll be holding an event at Independence Hall on February 26th, where Michael Patrick Leahy, co-coordinator of Election Day Tea Party, will speak about his new book, Covenant of Liberty: The Ideological Origins of the Tea Party Movement.”

    Lorie Medina, founder of the Frisco, Texas Tea Party and creator of the Victory in a BoxGet-out-the Vote program added “After the wave of public rallies that dominated 2009 and 2010, hundreds of local tea party groups around the country have spent 2011 organizing under the radar to get out the vote in 2012. In addition to the takeover of the House of Representatives in 2010, the Tea Party was entirely responsible for the Republican Party’s takeover of the Virginia State Senate this past November. Tea Party 1.0 and 2.0 have come and gone. Now, we’re on to Tea Party 3.0. We’re organized and determined to win in November, 2012.”

    Additional tea parties who’ve signed up to be part of Election Day Tea Party 2012 and the third anniversary celebration in February come from Tennessee, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Mississippi, New Jersey, Texas, Delaware, Arkansas, Missouri, Florida, and Connecticut. Election Day Tea Party 2012 anticipates that tea parties from every state will participate.

    About Election Day Tea Party 2012: Election Day Tea Party 2012 is a project of the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition, an informal federation of thirty local tea parties from around the country who work collaboratively on national projects

  54. Ballot Baloney
    Newt: NH election fraud video proves ‘an impostor can vote for you’

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/#ixzz1jCjD5xU8

    GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich told The Daily Caller on Wednesday that a video showing conservative activists obtaining New Hampshire primary ballots in the names of dead people indicates that President Obama’s Justice Department isn’t doing enough to protect the integrity of the voting process.

    “How can the Obama Justice Department call itself a Department of Justice when it will allow a system to continue that enables election fraud?” Gingrich said. “Voter ID is a measure we must have in all 50 states to make sure our elections don’t lose their integrity.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/newt-nh-election-fraud-video-proves-an-impostor-can-vote-for-you/#ixzz1jCk3owdJ

  55. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

  56. From Orly’s:

    January 13 hearing before judge Nishimura will be televised

  57. rminnc | January 11, 2012 at 3:54 pm |

    Touche Bob touche….great point, maybe the teleprompter should run on the Democrat ticket this year !
    *****************************************
    I believe the teleprompter is better qualified than Obama to be on the ballot.

  58. From Leo Donofrio http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

    The Objectively Gray Propaganda Of Masked Rascals.
    Posted in Uncategorized on January 11, 2012 by naturalborncitizen

    Justice Horace Gray’s opinion in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark has provided the basis for 14th Amendment citizenship since 1898. But history must record the fact that Gray, whether aware of it or not, had a greater personal stake in the outcome of the case than any Supreme Court justice ever has had in a case…and by a very wide margin. Gray’s appointment came at the hands of Chester Arthur. Back in Dec. ’08, this blog exposed the fact that Arthur’s father didn’t become a citizen of the United States until 1843, when Chester was 14 years old. Therefore, Chester Arthur was a natural-born subject of the British empire.

    Read more…http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  59. My comment @ 9:29 is in moderation. Let’s try without links.

    From Leo Donofrio

    The Objectively Gray Propaganda Of Masked Rascals.
    Posted in Uncategorized on January 11, 2012 by naturalborncitizen

    Justice Horace Gray’s opinion in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark has provided the basis for 14th Amendment citizenship since 1898. But history must record the fact that Gray, whether aware of it or not, had a greater personal stake in the outcome of the case than any Supreme Court justice ever has had in a case…and by a very wide margin. Gray’s appointment came at the hands of Chester Arthur. Back in Dec. ’08, this blog exposed the fact that Arthur’s father didn’t become a citizen of the United States until 1843, when Chester was 14 years old. Therefore, Chester Arthur was a natural-born subject of the British empire. Read more at Leo’s site.

  60. I guess they don’t like Leo Donofrio, my comment at 9:32 is awaiting moderation too.

  61. Three comments in moderation now.

  62. Saska……………..
    Then you should print off as many copies of this “hand out” that you can afford,and place them in grocery stores,in laundramats, filling stations ,churches,ETC.

  63. Not sure anyone follows this, but for those interested in a poll taken by Christians through Chaplain Klingenschmitt’s site (Pray in Jesus name) the following might be worth your interest re: Romney………

    http://www.wnd.com:80/2011/10/361029/

    By the way, Santorum beat Romney in a landslide in this Christian poll. In fact, Romney came in last place.

  64. Honor First……………
    There is a burning issue that most Americans are missing. First is the fact that Romney,Gingrich nor anyone else can fix the problem with our economy OVERNIGHT. It seems as though ALL AMERICANS think that all the elected POTUS has to do is wave a magic wand, yuell SHAZAM to the sky and a bolt of lightning strikes the ground ,and VOILA INSTANT JOBS MILLIONS OF INSTANT JOBS are lying everywhere. This sort of reasoning is totally insane. Jobe DO NOT MATERIALISE OUT OF THIN AIR. They are created by companies,who are enjoying an expansion of their business volume. But there has to first be an environment within the country which supports business expansion. NO BUSINESS PROPRIETOR or owner is going to hire people to stand there with their thumb in their backside. People who think that are total morons. Our economic problems are FAR worse than many people suspect, and it is possible that there will NOT be any significant business expansion for as much as 10 years. NO POTUS CAN FORCE BUSINESS OWNERS TO HIRE PEOPLE THEY DO NOT NEED OR WANT. Espacially just to stand there and do nothing to earn their wage. People who think in such a venue are those who live in FANTASYLAND,and have never had any business training. These are people who also think that total annual sales is PROFIT. This sort of rationalisation is TYPICAL of ORGANISED LABOR.

  65. Sadly most Americans are conditioned to expect an EVER INCREASING salary,or rate of pay. Even though the job has not changed in any way, employees still want MORE,MORE,MORE until finally their employer is no longer competitive,and eventually becomes bankrupt. At what point does the employer say to the employee “You have reached the maximum amount that I can pay you and remain competitive. I can no longer give you a annual raise”. Unfortunately our economy doesn’t remain STATIC. If it did then there would be no increase in the cost opf liveing which is traceable right back to the annual pay raises. Union goons strike their employer for more ,and more,and more,but they can’t seem to understand that their employer just hands it back to them in a increase in the price of his product which the strikers make. So in essence they are SHOVELLING MANURE AGAINST THE TIDE.

  66. Damn few Americans want to live in REALITY anymore. They want everything that mom, and dad had,but they want it ALL overnight, even though mom and dad might have spent half of their lives acquiring what they have. So they sign up for CREDIT CARDS. Then after they have maxed it out they apply for another, then they do the same thing again,after which personal bankruptcy soon follows,and their creditors take the losses. Not very long after all the smoke clears the same people are right back at it again. Therein lies one of the REAL FAULTS of Americans……living in FANTASYLAND.

  67. Oh yes I nearly forgot when the pay from their jobs no longer stretches, far enough to cover all the credit card payments, then they blame their financial problems on their EMPLOYER,and try to make everybody believe that their employer is a real CRIMINAL,because he doesn’t pay them enough. Then when he refuses they STRIKE. After they settle which might be for a period of a year or more, then the cost of the employer’s product rises,and he hands it right back to them, when they buy the product. SO i SAY TO ALL OF THOSE WHO THINK THEIR EMPLOYERS ARE CRIMINALS………..THAT IS PRIMARILY WHY YOUR EMPLOYER IS PROBABLY CONTEMPLATING MOVING THE COMPANY OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR TO A right to work STATE……….WITHOUT ANY OF THE PRESENT EMPLOYEES.

  68. Lets see if ANY American POTUS has the ability to change the way his constituents think with regard to their paychecks……..that is those who are still getting paychecks. He will first have to remove the GREED FACTOR from every American both young and old. Pretty tall order! He will have to stop the FREEBIE livings being handed to people by our ever expanding government. I guarantee that when the FREEBIE livings STOP there will be HELL ON EARTH, followed by thankfulness just to have a JOB.

  69. G’NITE ALL……..GOD BLESS!

  70. Old Salt, as always your description of our situation here in the U.S. is very accurate. As you say, there are not going to be any quick fixes even if the best man available were to become President. We are in such dire straits that it will take a long time to turn the Ship of State around, and it is going to take the heart and soul of the people to have a turn about face, as well as the needed change of direction in D.C. The situation is very precarious.

  71. January 12, 2012
    NH poll workers shown handing out ballots in dead peoples’ names
    MANCHESTER, N.H. — Video footage provided exclusively to The Daily Caller shows election workers in New Hampshire giving out ballots in the names of dead voters at multiple voting precincts during the state’s primary election on Tuesday.
    The bombshell video is the work of conservative filmmaker James O’Keefe and his organization, Project Veritas.
    Voters in the Granite State are not required to present identification to vote. O’Keefe’s investigators were able to obtain ballots under the names of dead voters at polling locations Tuesday by simply asking for them, he said.
    “Live free or die,” an election worker told one of the investigators in the video. “This is New Hampshire. No ID needed.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/video-nh-poll-workers-shown-handing-out-ballots-in-dead-peoples-names/#ixzz1jAzb4Iz8

  72. http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/01/10/editorial/mitt-romney-birthright-red-herring/

    Unless someone can come up with evidence that Mitt’s father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. This nonsense should stop, not holding my breath though.

    I expect a wave of Mormon haters to come out of the woodwork.

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