2012 election fraud, Florida, Allen West recount request, Dave in Fla DiF Poll Analysis website, Rigged voting machines hacked tabulation software?, McCain vs Romney count

2012 election fraud, Florida, Allen West recount request, Dave in Fla DiF Poll Analysis website, Rigged voting machines hacked tabulation software?, McCain vs Romney count

“I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters.” “you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.”…Bartle Bull, civil rights lawyer

“the organization has come under intense scrutiny because of its voter registration practices. In several states voter registration forms have been found to include nonexistent or dead people. Some registrants have told elections officials they completed multiple cards at the urging of ACORN canvassers who claimed they would be fired if they did not meet a daily quota for signing up new voters.”…Catholic News Service. Oct. 16, 2008

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth’s centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O’Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote:

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″

From Tea Party Advocacy November 10, 2012.

“THE EVIDENCE IS MOUNTING
EVERYTHING POINTS TO
STOLEN VOTES”

“”Dave in Fla” runs the DiF Poll Analysis website”

“We are being asked to believe that Romney got close to three million fewer votes in 2012 than John McCain got in 2008.
That’s not possible.
This election is a fraud.

I don’t know exactly how – rigging voting machines, hacking tabulation software, whatever. What I do know is that it is totally beyond inevitability and into the realm of ridiculously absurd that Romney actually got any fewer votes than McCain in 2008, much less millions fewer.

I hate going down a conspiracy road, but yes I believe the election was stolen, and the implications of that are very bad. First of all, Obama received 10 million less votes than he did in 2008. The part that is unbelievable is that Romney received 3 million less votes than McCain. At the end of the day, Obama won in the 4 critical swing states by 500,000 votes. But it is worse than that. We can look at who voted.

By examining the number of Independents and their preference shift among actual voters, we know that 5 million Independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008.

This means that 5.5 million Republican
voters are not accounted for.

They didn’t show up at the polls, or their votes were not counted. We know now that no subgroup of the coalition decided to sit out. So the current attempts to blame the Social Conservatives are stupid. All of our groups showed up to vote at the rates they did in 2008. For this to be true, over 10% of Republicans needed to decide not to vote this year, who did vote in 2008.

Does that make any sense?

In fact, it is even worse, we know for a fact that heavy GOP counties were swamped all day. We watched all day as, e.g., Pasco County Florida was showing huge increases in GOP voters over the 2008 numbers. In Virginia, with 69% of the precincts in, Romney held a 6% lead. Yet once a small number of counties reported, that lead disappeared. If the vote drop off occurred, it occurred in a very small number of counties. It was not visible nationwide. I contend that you can not get a 10% drop off in GOP turnout without it being noticeable during the GOTV effort, measures of enthusiasm in polling, or visibly lower turnout in GOP leaning precincts.

For anyone who doesn’t want to think that the Obama campaign would engage in such blatant election fraud, contemplate this.

These are the same people who ran Fast and Furious without regard for the cost in human lives, turned off their credit card verification system to allow fraudulent donations, and allowed four Americans in Libya to die because it was politically inconvenient.

Do you really think that massive election fraud is something they wouldn’t do? If this is true, then we have some hard things to consider.

First of all, we are now needlessly fracturing our coalition pointing fingers at people for not voting.

Second, we are making an assumption about the make up of the American public that is not true.

We are going to modify our party and message to appeal to a group of individuals who do not represent the majority of the population.

Most difficult to believe is that we are living in Venezuela where our elections are merely for show, and the people in charge of the Governments decide who will win elections. We become wards of the State, which is the aim of those who stole this election.

So how can this be proved? I am going to start by looking at a few key counties in Florida. What I want to see is the voter registration numbers by party, and then compare them to the actual votes received. Theoretically, if this were to be done for all counties in Florida, we could see where the fraud occurred. Comparing the votes Romney received to the strike lists would show that in specific counties Romney received something like 50% of the Republican vote (picking a number out of the air) while we know that nationwide he received 95% of the Republican vote. To really get to the answer, we would need to get the registration books, which might be possible through Freedom of Information act.

Those show who actually voted, by name, and their party. The media will not pursue this. This will take citizen journalists working in every state.

This letter was sent to TPATH yesterday. It has all the points most of us have been thinking. Let’s hope Dave in Florida is successful with his several county analysis.”

http://www.tpath.org/

Allen West Recount.

“Allen West Recount Request Suggests ‘Disturbing Irregularities’ At Polls”

“Though several outlets had declared the race between Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) and Democrat Patrick Murphy a victory for Murphy as of Wednesday morning, with Murphy even accepting the congressional seat in a statement, West has so far refused to concede.
And West’s campaign isn’t pleased that people keep saying he’s out, according to a statement posted on his Facebook page Wednesday morning:
Our race is far from decided and there is no rush to declare an outcome. Ensuring a fair and accurate counting off all ballots is of the utmost importance. There are still tens of thousands of absentee ballots to be counted in Palm Beach County and potential provisional ballots across the district. Late last night Congressman West maintained a district wide lead of nearly 2000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections “recounted” thousands of early ballots. Following that “recount” Congressman West trailed by 2,400 votes. In addition, there were numerous other disturbing irregularities reported at polls across St. Lucie County including the doors to polling places being locked when the polls closed in direct violation of Florida law, thereby preventing the public from witnessing the procedures used to tabulate results. The St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections office clearly ignored proper rules and procedures, and the scene at the Supervisor’s office last night could only be described as complete chaos. Given the hostility and demonstrated incompetence of the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, we believe it is critical that a full hand recount of the ballots take place in St. Lucie County. We will continue to fight to ensure every vote is counted properly and fairly, and accordingly we will pursue all legal means necessary.”
Wait til you see my next article.
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36 responses to “2012 election fraud, Florida, Allen West recount request, Dave in Fla DiF Poll Analysis website, Rigged voting machines hacked tabulation software?, McCain vs Romney count

  1. I’m glad people are catching on. From day 1 of the election, it made no sense. (And the Fox News coverage was unbelievable. They couldn’t wait to give Ohio to Obama and declare him the winner.) Given the dynamics of this election, in no way did it make sense that a majority of the House would remain Republican and Obama would win. It just could not happen. That is in addition to the massive turn out for Romney.

    The entire House has to be re-elected every 2 years. (The Senators are staggered, every 6 years, which would mean only a third is elected every 4 years and it is a much smaller body than the House.) It would be hard to “fix” all the Congressional seats because there are so many districts and so many Congressmen. But if you are “fixing” things, you might be able to manage the Presidential and a few Senate seats. (If you have the Senate, you avoid conviction for impeachment in the House.)

    How could this be done? Michael Savage offered the possibility in April:

    Here’s one way to check, if you have the data: List the total number of votes for Republicans elected to the House versus the total number of votes for Romney. They should be pretty close to the same. If there is a large disparity, we wouldn’t have to go too much further. If not, we would have to dig deeper.

  2. PS: Regarding my above post: This is not to say that a few critical Congressional seat wouldn’t be rigged. That is probably what happened to Allen West because he is 1) Black, and 2) an effective Conservative spokesman. So he was probably singled out for special treatment. But it would be hard to do for 435 seats.

  3. Rep. Trey Gowdy: Either Petraeus Will Come and Testify to Congress Or He Will Be Subpoenaed (Video)

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/rep-trey-gowdy-either-petraeus-will-come-and-testify-to-congress-or-he-will-be-subpoenaed-video/

    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) told Greta Van Susteren tonight that Petraeus will be questioned before Congress despite his resignation today.

    “The fact that he’s resigned and had an affair has nothing to do with whether he will be subpoenaed to Congress. I hope we don’t have to subpoena a four star general and a former CIA director. I would hope he would come voluntarily but if he won’t he will be subpoenaed. And none of what happened today is an offense to a subpoena… He’s either a witness in our case in chief or he’s gonna be a rebuttal witness if Susan Rice and others blame him for their failure of intelligence and failure of information. But there is no way we can get to the bottom of Benghazi without David Petraeus.”

  4. I hate to be negative on this one even though I am convinced there was voter fraud/manipulation in this election. But just like the eligibility issue, an investigation into election fraud aint gonna happen. Do ya’ll remember the Al Franken debacle…I believe they proved guilt and maybe some got their hands slapped, but the sick comedian remains a Senator. We can dig and dig and spend months and years on this but sadly, unless he is impeached, O will be the prez for the next four years.

    He is a self rightous rat with an overwhelming group of obots who will cover for him. But a rat nonetheless. His lack of experience and his total disdain for our beloved country will ooze out eventually. He will work feverishly and untethered in this second term. We need the blind to finally see it and revolt against him. Hopefully there will be enough in Congress with some sanity that will either block his attempts to subvert this nation, or they can just stay in gridlock. Either way its going to be a very harsh and bumpy road.

    I am not suggesting we quit the effort, I just don’t think it will be for election fraud.

  5. Air Force Brat!

    I realize, to my embarrassment, that I will probably sound like a nimrod when I ask this. But does this article mean that Allen West is OUT — defeated — toast — or is the recount process still ongoing and the outcome undecided as yet?

  6. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Latest news on Allen West -

    “Allen West Patrick Murphy race update: GOP officials say West remains low key but upbeat”

    Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_martin_county/allen-west-patrick-murphy-race-update-gop-officials-say-west-remains-low-key-but-upbeat#ixzz2Bq5SoVhq

  7. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – From a commenter from previous article -

    Have learned that Allen West picked up another 300 votes and they haven’t counted the absentee votes yet so why should he concede. He’s also at .066% and auto recount is .050%. Something fishy here and American voters should be outraged that votes have not been counted. All votes count not well our person is ahead so quit counting. The sad part is that our absentee military votes haven’t been counted yet. The left use our military for there own disposal and benefit we our hero’s votes don’t count, shame on those that pat them on the back one minute and kick them when things don’t go there own way. RECOUNT these votes.

  8. (from prior thread)
    Honor First – 7:36 AM
    I am not sure what he will lose over this affair, but he will NOT go down losing his integrity or taking the fall for a corrupt, inexperienced, ideologic CIC.

    zachjonesishome | November 10, 2012 at 7:45 am |
    HonorFirst – Agreed.
    ***************************
    Ditto!
    Remember Petraeus is well-trained and a master in the art of warfare. This debacle that we are presently in and have been experiencing for four years is really W.A.R. The hooligans from Chicago corruption are cunning and clever but thankfully this country still has some qualified people to outsmart them. I would hope and pray that the General would be one of those.

  9. Citizen Wells,
    I have been wanting to comment here, but having trouble with wordpres because I am on a borrowed computer..and haven’t downloaded my whole AOL thing…….anyway.

    I am “Sharon in VA” and I know I haven’t commented here lately, but I have been chomping at the bit with an idea here….and an important question that I can only ask HERE,,without having to explain our efforts over the past four years.

    I don’t really want to put it out here on my facebook account..so wanted to ask you to PLEASE e-mail me. Do you still have my e-mail address in your file?

  10. Have You Heard About “Spigot Cities” That May Pump Votes to Obama?

    This information was first aired on TheBlaze TV Nov. 1. I saw the program when it was rerun on Nov. 4.

    Excerpt:
    President Barack Obama’s campaign team could have more control over the outcome of the 2012 election than you think, according to a report by TheBlaze documentary team that reveals the potential for highly targeted voter fraud in key cities that could determine who gets the electoral votes from many swing states.

    The potential fraud would be focused on major, decisive cities that are believed to help keep states blue, and therefore earning them the electoral college’s votes. They’re called “spigot cities.”

    J. Christian Adams, an author and former attorney for the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division, spoke about the spigot cities on the BlazeTV documentary — “The Machine” — which delves into various forms of voter fraud and how it’s being perpetuated. Many believe it is ultimately resulting in a loss of freedom through a corrupt voting system.

    Adams believes spigot cities are managed by the Obama campaigned with some involvement by the Voting Section of the Justice Department.
    “Without the spigot being opened in Philly, without the spigot being opened in Saint Louis, without the spigot being opened in Detroit and Fort Lauderdale and– and– and places around the country like that, Milwaukee– Cleveland, Cincinnati, those states would not go blue,” Adams said on “The Machine.”

    “It requires massive turnout– in large unopposed numbers in those urban centers for those states to remain in– in the blue column. What you have, unfortunately, is pervasive systemic voter fraud in many of those places. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.”

    Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/2012/11/have-you-heard-about-spigot-cities-that-may-pump-votes-to-obama.html#ixzz2BqKI8hJX

  11. Okay, I have read some comments from the last couple of days, and see that some seem to be sort of dancing around my idea, Dean M.even came really CLOSE to saying it at one point..but didn’t connect it.

    Dean M….

    Please carry your thoughts a little farther……don’t the electors STILL need to certify the votes ? Can’t any members of Congress still challenge his eligibility?

    We don’t even need to try to get them to take on the NBC issue….thanks to Sheriff Joe, and all that we have been through for the past 4 years…we have serious reason to question his very citizenship, let alone whether he is a “Natural Born” one.

    Shouldn’t we be contacting Congress and telling them to challenge his eligibility..like we did in 2008/2009?

    Shouldn’t we be working together to gather the best evidence to present to them..and then start contacting them? ASAP?

  12. CW….Now that the election is over, I have problem. What should I do?
    On my truck I have a bumper sticker that reads..

    OMG “Obama Must GO” …… now should I

    (A) REMOVE IT
    (B) LEAVE IT ON
    or
    (C) PUT IT UPSIDE DOWN

  13. Why David Patraeus’ Gmail Account is a National Security Issue

    It seems that Patraeus’ mistress or someone close to her had sought access to his personal Gmail account, and that is what the FBI was investigating. This WaPo article does shed some light on why this could be so serious – enormous value to foreign hackers, etc.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/10/why-david-petraeuss-gmail-account-is-a-national-security-issue/

  14. CW, you know another amazing allegory by Orwell is ANIMAL FARM. Obama fits the profile of the boar, Napoleon, who becomes the dictator of the farm. He has his right hand pig, Squealer (Axelrod) with his list of political correct rules. Snowball (Bush) is the scapegoat. When his big project, the Windmill (Obama care & the bailout) doesn’t work, he blames Snowball (Bush).

    He has all his cronies, the pigs, to whom the rules don’t apply. One of his commandments is “Whatever goes upon two legs (Conservatives) is an enemy.” “All animals are equal,” is another commandment, so the animals are forbidden to have certain things, except for his pig cronies. They are given special priviledges. The rule, “All animals are equal,” changes to, “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

  15. Arlen Williams:

    “Wisconsin: Degree of Election Tampering, Vote Fraud (updating)”

    “Did Mitt Romney actually win the legal part of this election?
    We are taking election tampering and fraud head on, featuring key states with the worst apparent offenses, head on, in running entries/threads. This is Wisconsin.
    ————-
    This comes from a thread in an article that brings up questions about the vote in St. Lucie Co., Florida.
    Seth Alu November 10, 2012 11:10 AM
    LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS!! — Make this go VIRAL!!
    by Seth Alu·
    Wisconsin trending republican? LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS!!
    —————————-
    The only reason why I looked at Wisconsin is because of the recent anecdotal evidence with the Scott Walker elections in both 2010 and 2012. It immediately jumped at me that something just did not seem right. In fact, Scott Walker increased his victory margin in his recall election just 5 months ago from his prior election in 2010.
    So, to summarize, statewide there is recent anecdotal evidence that WISCONSIN WAS TRENDING MORE REPUBLICAN – NOT LESS.
    Approximately 500,000 more voters voted than those that voted 5 months ago. Of those 500,000 new voters only 12.5% voted republican vs the 87.5% new voters voting democrat.
    Then I decided to look at a county by county breakdown of votes comparing Scott Walker (R)/Tom Barrett (D) on 5 June 2012 (5 months prior) vs Barrack Obama (D)/Mitt Romney (R) on 6 November 2012 (5 months later).
    Below is a breakdown of voting in 3 counties in Wisconsin.”

    http://gulagbound.com/35934/wisconsin-degree-of-election-tampering-vote-fraud/

  16. Wow! I just ran across a Leftwing website that is using my logic in reverse. As I’ve said here and other places (like American Thinker) there’s no way the Republicans could have kept the House and lost the Presidency. Those voting for a Republican Congress would not have split their tickets to vote for Obama. It makes no sense at all.

    There’s a guy at a Leftwing website who has it right, but in reverse. He says there is no way Obama could have carried the counties that he did and not have carried the House races. He is trying to attribute this to Republican gerrymandering in these counties:

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/07/1159631/americans-voted-for-a-democratic-house-gerrymandering-the-supreme-court-gave-them-speaker-boehner/?mobile=nc

    At least this fellow understands the math. If Obama carried these counties, he should have got most of the votes for the House as well. That he didn’t is an anomaly. It is a big anomaly. The more likely explanation based on the turn-out for Romney is that he carried those counties but there was voter fraud. People were voting for Romney but the software made it register for Obama.

  17. New articles here some more Voter fraud,American citizens should call congress and tell what is going on,should make Election null and void
    http://Www.commieblaster.com

  18. Someone Needs to call Trump and papers, Mark Levin,Krouthammer, Savage ,Voter Fraud massive on many fronts http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM

  19. Here’s a pretty good assessment of all the possible machinations within the timing of the Petraeus revelation as well as why he was put in the CIA position in the first place….to get a possible Repub rival hidden away:

    http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2012/11/09/david-and-bathsheba/

    Like the characterization of Jarrett as the WH’s Javert from Les Mis! I also don’t think Madam Defarge is too far behind as a double either.

  20. Pass http://www.commieblaster.com. Everywhere possible
    Massive Voter Fraud. ENOUGH!!! Call NewsPapers,Talk Radio

  21. Maybe call Coast to Coast radio

  22. Talk about 1984 & the Ministry of Truth! I just googled “2012 Election Fraud.” This is what Google gives you at the bottom of the page:

    romney election fraud
    mitt romney election fraud
    ron paul vote fraud
    ron paul voter fraud
    gop voter fraud
    gop vote fraud
    republican primary voter fraud
    voter fraud against ron paul

    That ‘s it. Those are the highlighted choices Google gives you under “2012 Election Fraud.” Do you see Democrat or Obama anywhere on that list? No. Of course not. Democrats nor Obama would never commit fraud or cheat or lie. Only Romney and the GOP would be guilty of such things. The Google Ministry of Truth hath spoken.

  23. TREASON,criminally charged. http://www.thejaghunter.wordpress.com

  24. Pat Buchanan asks some good questions:

    Pat Buchanan asks whether CIA blew it with initial field investigation of Petraeus

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/10/pat-buchanan-asks-whether-cia-blew-it-with-initial-field-investigation-of-petraeus/#ixzz2BquKVzJZ

  25. Use http://www.bing.com nOT Google,Gibbs works for Google
    Ck voter fraud on http://www.bing.com
    Katie Pavlick has no to call on voter fraud and email
    1 855 444 6100
    freeandfair@truethevote.org

    Katie author of book called “Fast and Furious”
    any Voting fraud information web sites etc please email or call Katie

  26. http://www.wnd.com. WOW Is this why Peterous left,gun running,worse than Fast and Furious !!!!! Pass on

  27. A Hispanic friend, who is also in construction and doing work on our house, told my husband something this morning that I’d like to pass along. This friend asked his mom why she voted for Obama when he was under the impression that she was going to vote for Romney. She told him that she heard that there was an ad on Univision (largest spanish speaking station) that showed Romney saying he could buy the Hispanic votes with a mess of tacos. First of all, I don’t believe he ever said that. Second, I don’t know if this was supposedly a ‘doctored’ ad using his voice or just a rumor that was circulated by Obot operatives. However, it DID spread quickly from mouths to ears and several Hispanic votes were changed from Romney to Obama. I doubt if the ad/rumor would have made a big difference in the outcome as far as deep-Blue Kalifornia is concerned (except for those deeply religious Catholics who won’t vote for abortion or homosexuals), but I wonder about some other leaning-Red states that have a heavy population of Hispanics. I was wondering if anyone else here heard about this?

    Also, remember when Univision asked Obama some pretty hard questions regarding Fast and Furious? Then soon after, Obama gave some government job to the wife of a CEO that was connected to Univision. This happened a short time before the election. I can’t help but wonder if there might be something to that rumored Romney ad?

  28. Dean M., ( November 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm |)

    In thinking about your observation that there was such disparity between the votes for Obama and those for Dem house seats, I do believe that we must take into consideration that there are many disinterested voters who would only vote for president and not go any further on the ballot. This characterization could well apply to “paid” or coerced, ineligible people that were given a $20 bill and bussed to the polls and told to vote for Obama. I guess one would have to compare the total votes cast for president with the total for the house seats in any one state to properly analyze my theory.

    However, I am rather thinking like Honor First and also Sharon Nicely, at least today. :) As Honor feels, we are never going to get substantially anywhere with the voter fraud issue, at least in the short term. Not that we should abandon it.

    In the meantime the clock is ticking towards our last possibility to express our God-given rights, i.e., some sort of impact on the electoral college, especially their presentation to Congress in January. Remember that was at one time our great criticism, namely, that not one congressional member presented in writing, as required, an opposition to Obama on the grounds of unproven eligibility.

    Maybe as developments unfold re. the Libyan scandal someone will have the moral stamina and courage – It takes two, one senator and one representative, but there has to be a two-hour debate in each chamber, and the vote has to be in favor, or Obama stands. Impeachment won’t work, because although the House could successfully impeach, the Senate has to vote for removal, and that is unlikely with a Dem. Senate.

    We will know more in a couple of weeks as events unfold.

    Oh, also, as far as voter fraud is concerned, I wrote a piece on a prior thread about the great, important role that the Secretaries of State have in the voting process. George Soros has already banked on that and given huge sums of money to get his “approvals” in that office.

    There are those who are knowledgeable who feel that SOS’s in Ohio, WI, PA and VA may have been dishonest. The Ohio SOS is a Repub., but he did some bad things secretly at the last minute (contrary to Ohio law) re. the software which tabulates the votes and also was responsible for the mailing of millions of absentee ballots, which recipients showed up at the polls instead. Then they had to do a provisional ballot which under Ohio law would not be counted for 10 days. Was he possibly bribed by the Soros machine?

    Any investigations will drag on for months and maybe years. By that time we will have “new” things to worry about. That’s the reality of it.

  29. Florida vote twist: More ballots than voters
    Allen West team ‘ready to go to war to get the recount’

    (Washington Times) Republican Congressman Allen West’s campaign is ready to “go to war” to get a recount in the Florida 18th Congressional District race. The latest twist to emerge from the ongoing vote count – in some precincts there are more ballots than voters.
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-than-voters/?cat_orig=politics

  30. Latest update on Allen West recount fight

    There have been lots of rumors swirling that Allen West was ahead by a couple hundred votes, or that there was substantial “overvoting” which affected the race. None of those rumors appear to be correct.

    The Shark Tank blog in Florida has the latest information
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/11/latest-update-on-allen-west-recount-fight/

  31. Thank you Cabby,
    My first post is still “awaiting moderation”….when no one commented on my second one, I thought perhaps it was too.

    I am “Sharon in VA..having to temporarily use my facebook account to comment.,..so, I’m not a stranger, although I haven’t commented in quite some time.

    In MY mind…this feels like a last ditch effort. We have seen by the past 4 years that once it passes that point..there is going to be nowhere we can go for “remedy”…not to the Courts, not to the media, not even Glenn Beck or Fox news….nowhere.

    I know that we have ALL been kind of “letting it slide” for awhile and worked on VOTING him out..now that that didn’t work either. I’m thinking we should at least give THIS our best last try.

    Maybe I am hopelessly naive but I think it will be a litle easier to convince our Representatives this time, because we don’t need to talk about the Natural Born Isuue…we just have to ask them to make Obama prove that he is even a Citizen at all…..make him prove that he has even been elected by his legal NAME, etc. I feel that if we present them with the right evidence from past cases…..we can make them SEE that it is perfectly reasonable to doubt this..without saying anything about being born in Kenya or anything like that. We just have to point out that..although Obama and his minions in the media made a big joke out of Sheriff Joe…where’s the answer? Where’s the hard copy certified BC? Where’s the proof that Sheriff Joe is wrong? No one has EVER answered the challenge. In the “Klayman”(?) trial was it ? didn’t the DNC even admit that the computer generated image is not proof?

    And it goes beyond the birth certificate….When did Obama legally change his name back after his adoption? DID he register for college as a foreign student? What ABOUT that Selective Service application?

    I think a normal person has every reason to question this, there is nothing crazy, or tin foil hattish about wanting to be sure that our American “President” is an American Citizen. It has never been about us proving that he is not a citizen, it has been about him proving he is.

    I feel that if we handle it correctly, we can convince many MORE than just one Senator and one congressman to challenge this.

    That is where I need help….it’s obvious that I am not the most succint of writers,and I don’t want to send a “book” they won’t read. In all honesty, I have even been unable to convince my local Tea Party to pursue this at all…ever. Although I may try again now.

    I have a basic idea,,but need help pulling it all together,

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